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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76558 is a reply to message #76519] |
Fri, 01 December 2006 07:49   |
LaMont
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et="_blank">http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZstephenstcroix_gearQQhtZ-1
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>More Stephen Stories
Way back when he used to call me once a month or so (who would have thought),
in the first days of the NG...
We were talking about oberheim stuff, and I was recalling how much I liked
this oberheim drum machine I used to use 'back in the 80s' because it was
so easy to program, had decent sounds for electronic music and 8 outs. He
said, yeah it's a DMX, I have one if you want it. I never took him up on
it. Lo and behold there it is on the equipment list.
Chuck
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>I would love to have that shot-up Lex!
>
>I'd put it right up on my wall. heh heh
>
>DC
>
>
>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>Back in 98, I was thinking about getting a 480L. Stephen chimed in and
>>posted to the NG that he had one for me, with ullet holes. He had been
using
>
>>it for target practice and it was subsequently being used as a doorstop.
>He
>>recommended Quantec. I subsequently bought a Yardstick and have been very
>
>>happy with it but I've always wanted one of the original QRS units but
have
>
>>been hesitant to buy one due to the age of the units and not knowing wo
>did
>>the maintenance. Sort of like the old Roland R-880, once it's toast, it's
>
>>likely to remain toast. I would imagine that Stephen took good care of
his
>
>>unit and I'm thinking that if I don't have his QRS I might die.It's not
>up
>>for auction yet. I don't even want to think about the Helios console because
>
>>I know I can't possibly afford it.
>>
>>In the meantime, I need a pair of Horrortones
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:459ea5ad$1@linux...
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>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZstephenstcroix_gearQQhtZ-1
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>I posted this idea on PlanetZ but I'll repeat it here.
Since I feel like satuation/clipping has more to do with bigger mixes (obviously
a big selling point in paris with its ability to crank levels) this is one
area I've been concentrating on more than summing issues.
There is a modular synth addon for SCOPE called Adern Flexor. Included in
it is about 5-6 saturation modules:
http://adern.com/manuals/flexor/reference/shapers/saturation /soft_sat.htm
My idea is to strap these across multiple channels in SCOPE while streaming
my mix from a native app through them.
I'll be doing some tests and let you guys know how they come out.
Jesse"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Help,
>
> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and
>when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what
a
>cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the player. It's
a
>16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings for the mp3 that
>I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my bedroom computer and tried
>doing the conversion there and got the same result, which makes me think
I
>did something weird to the .wav file that's messing up the conversion
>process somehow. Any ideas?
>
>Sarah
>
>
Did you check for DC offset?
Gene"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
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>More Stephen Stories
>
>Way back when he used to call me once a month or so (who would have thought),
>in the first days of the NG...
>
>We were talking about oberheim stuff, and I was recalling how much I liked
>this oberheim drum machine I used to use 'back in the 80s' because it was
>so easy to program, had decent sounds for electronic music and 8 outs.
He
>said, yeah it's a DMX, I have one if you want it. I never took him up on
>it. Lo and behold there it is on the equip
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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76559 is a reply to message #76558] |
Fri, 01 December 2006 07:19 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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ment list.
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>Chuck
>
>
I loved that box too.
Little known fact:
The DMX (and DX) had each sound burned to a PROM chip and after it was out
for a few months a small company started that offered alternate samples available
on chips the user could swap (I think they also offer Linndrum chips). I
picked up some of the chips offered. The company went on to become Digidesign.
The DMX came with a killer snare sample.
Gene"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
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>I posted this idea on PlanetZ but I'll repeat it here.
>
>Since I feel like satuation/clipping has more to do with bigger mixes (obviously
>a big selling point in paris with its ability to crank levels) this is one
>area I've been concentrating on more than summing issues.
>
>There is a modular synth addon for SCOPE called Adern Flexor. Included
in
>it is about 5-6 saturation modules:
>
> http://adern.com/manuals/flexor/reference/shapers/saturation /soft_sat.htm
>
>My idea is to strap these across multiple channels in SCOPE while streaming
>my mix from a native app through them.
>
>I'll be doing some tests and let you guys know how they come out.
>
>Jesse
Here's another device that could be used for the same result:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21138&high light=vm42"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>More Stephen Stories
>>
>>Way back when he used to call me once a month or so (who would have thought),
>>in the first days of the NG...
>>
>>We were talking about oberheim stuff, and I was recalling how much I liked
>>this oberheim drum machine I used to use 'back in the 80s' because it was
>>so easy to program, had decent sounds for electronic music and 8 outs.
>He
>>said, yeah it's a DMX, I have one if you want it. I never took him up
on
>>it. Lo and behold there it is on the equipment list.
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>
>
>I loved that box too.
>
>Little known fact:
>The DMX (and DX) had each sound burned to a PROM chip and after it was out
>for a few months a small company started that offered alternate samples
available
>on chips the user could swap (I think they also offer Linndrum chips). I
>picked up some of the chips offered. The company went on to become Digidesign.
>
>The DMX came with a killer snare sample.
Speaking of EPROM drum sample chips, ever use the Wendel Jr.?
Those worked pretty well, actually!
Neilor tied doing another mix down and see if that dupes it?
try doing a strip header thing?
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:07:26 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
wrote:
>Help,
>
> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and
>when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what a
>cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the player. It's a
>16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings for the mp3 that
>I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my bedroom computer and tried
>doing the conversion there and got the same result, which makes me think I
>did something weird to the .wav file that's messing up the conversion
>process somehow. Any ideas?
>
>Sarah
>Sarah,.............did you.........
Import the individual .paf's into a stereo file in WL (go to
File>Open>Wave>file type>Ensoniq PAF then shift+right click on each one and
then click on open?
At this point, the L & R mono files whould open as a stereo PAF in Wavelab.
Then did you process/dither the files using the render function and save
them as a separate file? did they play back OK? Then did you set a directory
path to save this as a 16bit/44.1kHz .wav file? Did it still play back OK?
Next, did you go to File>Save Special (wave)>Encode MP3>Save as Type>MPEG-1
Layer3 (MP3) and below this there should be an active bar that should say :
MP3/Stereo/44.100Hz/LameEric-128Kbs/Attr
Then you name the file and directory pach and hit OK. this works for me
every time.
I'll be out for a few hours. I'll check back in later on. If you're still
having trouble PM me a animix-at-animas-dot-net and I'll try to help you get
this going.
Regards,
Deej
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:459f7215$1@linux...
> Help,
>
> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and
> when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what
> a cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the player. It's
> a 16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings for the mp3
> that I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my bedroom computer
> and tried doing the conversion there and got the same result, which makes
> me think I did something weird to the .wav file that's messing up the
> conversion process somehow. Any ideas?
>
> Sarah
>To quote something said by someone around here, I think it was SSC or Tank,
the Adern modules fail to suck.
TCB
"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
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>I posted this idea on PlanetZ but I'll repeat it here.
>
>Since I feel like satuation/clipping has more to do with bigger mixes (obviously
>a big selling point in paris with its ability to crank levels) this is one
>area I've been concentr
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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76560 is a reply to message #76558] |
Fri, 01 December 2006 08:22 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
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ating on more than summing issues.
>
>There is a modular synth addon for SCOPE called Adern Flexor. Included
in
>it is about 5-6 saturation modules:
>
> http://adern.com/manuals/flexor/reference/shapers/saturation /soft_sat.htm
>
>My idea is to strap these across multiple channels in SCOPE while streaming
>my mix from a native app through them.
>
>I'll be doing some tests and let you guys know how they come out.
>
>JesseI've got the synth pack on my system and I'm assuming this is in there
somewhere. I'll give it a try.
Deej
"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote in message news:459fa0ca$1@linux...
>
> I posted this idea on PlanetZ but I'll repeat it here.
>
> Since I feel like satuation/clipping has more to do with bigger mixes
> (obviously
> a big selling point in paris with its ability to crank levels) this is one
> area I've been concentrating on more than summing issues.
>
> There is a modular synth addon for SCOPE called Adern Flexor. Included in
> it is about 5-6 saturation modules:
>
> http://adern.com/manuals/flexor/reference/shapers/saturation /soft_sat.htm
>
> My idea is to strap these across multiple channels in SCOPE while
> streaming
> my mix from a native app through them.
>
> I'll be doing some tests and let you guys know how they come out.
>
> JesseThe Adern stuff is an add-on to the modular synth. Probably not worth it for
you, since I don't hear a lot of modular synths in bluegrass tunes ;-) Anyway,
from what I've heard of your mixes you're looking, if anything, for greater
clarity not better fuzziness.
I've spent most of the past three days spending my free time with this stuff.
It's far more intuitive working in non-XTC mode than I thought (esp with
the nView stuff so I can have one screen for Scope, one for Live, and one
for other stuff), and I haven't even read the manuals yet, though I'm about
to start. And the Bowen synths, omigod omigod omigod, I'm really mad at myself
I didn't do this sooner.
Are you using the 'fancier' mixers with the f/x and EQs and such? Or are
you still working mostly with this stuff as a better RME card?
TCB
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>I've got the synth pack on my system and I'm assuming this is in there
>somewhere. I'll give it a try.
>
>Deej
>
>"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote in message news:459fa0ca$1@linux...
>>
>> I posted this idea on PlanetZ but I'll repeat it here.
>>
>> Since I feel like satuation/clipping has more to do with bigger mixes
>> (obviously
>> a big selling point in paris with its ability to crank levels) this is
one
>> area I've been concentrating on more than summing issues.
>>
>> There is a modular synth addon for SCOPE called Adern Flexor. Included
in
>> it is about 5-6 saturation modules:
>>
>> http://adern.com/manuals/flexor/reference/shapers/saturation /soft_sat.htm
>>
>> My idea is to strap these across multiple channels in SCOPE while
>> streaming
>> my mix from a native app through them.
>>
>> I'll be doing some tests and let you guys know how they come out.
>>
>> Jesse
>
>Hey guys, as pricing for EDS cards have dropped, I've purchased a couple more
to add to my 3 card system. Typically, I keep one as a back up, but I wanted
to know if there were any problems adding a fourth and possibly the fifth
to my 8 channel Avid extender.
I spoke with Gene and recall him mentioning that there might be a problem
going beyond 3 cards (Gene, was that within the PC?).
Before purchasing the extender, my Win98 PC worked with the 3 cards installed
and I put in the fourth to test and it worked, though I only tested it for
a short period.
I recall reading posts of larger systems, but can't recall the details.
Thanks,
TyroneI've got 4 in a magma with no issues on WinXP. I seem to remember
someone having some issue with the avid box/drivers though.
Hoov
Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> Hey guys, as pricing for EDS cards have dropped, I've purchased a couple more
> to add to my 3 card system. Typically, I keep one as a back up, but I wanted
> to know if there were any problems adding a fourth and possibly the fifth
> to my 8 channel Avid extender.
>
> I spoke with Gene and recall him mentioning that there might be a problem
> going beyond 3 cards (Gene, was that within the PC?).
>
> Before purchasing the extender, my Win98 PC worked with the 3 cards installed
> and I put in the fourth to test and it worked, though I only tested it for
> a short period.
>
> I recall reading posts of larger systems, but can't recall the details.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tyrone
>
>
>
>Also for me, I've been running 442,442,none,mec from first card to last.
What is plugged in where has made a difference for many in the past.
I started this way and never had to change.
Hoov
Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> Hey guys, as pricing for EDS cards have dropped, I've purchased a couple more
> to add to my 3 card system. Typically, I ke
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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76561 is a reply to message #76559] |
Fri, 01 December 2006 08:28 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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ep one as a back up, but I wanted
> to know if there were any problems adding a fourth and possibly the fifth
> to my 8 channel Avid extender.
>
> I spoke with Gene and recall him mentioning that there might be a problem
> going beyond 3 cards (Gene, was that within the PC?).
>
> Before purchasing the extender, my Win98 PC worked with the 3 cards installed
> and I put in the fourth to test and it worked, though I only tested it for
> a short period.
>
> I recall reading posts of larger systems, but can't recall the details.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tyrone
>
>
>
>Eight. There were several systems this size a few years ago. The
only issue is IRQ conficts, but once those are ironed out, it works
just fine. We had 7 cards running here at one point, but I retired 2
as spares. Currently we have 5 cards in the magma chassis.
David.
Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> Hey guys, as pricing for EDS cards have dropped, I've purchased a couple more
> to add to my 3 card system. Typically, I keep one as a back up, but I wanted
> to know if there were any problems adding a fourth and possibly the fifth
> to my 8 channel Avid extender.
>
> I spoke with Gene and recall him mentioning that there might be a problem
> going beyond 3 cards (Gene, was that within the PC?).
>
> Before purchasing the extender, my Win98 PC worked with the 3 cards installed
> and I put in the fourth to test and it worked, though I only tested it for
> a short period.
>
> I recall reading posts of larger systems, but can't recall the details.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tyrone
>
>
>
>I thought about this and I bet you could use catagog to retrigger.
My bad.
AA
"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:459f24b5$1@linux...
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>remember, you can always
>>pull back the click to be less present in the mix but if it sounds like
>
>>you're smacking the drum with a dead cat body, you can't recover a click
>
>>that wasn't there to start.
>
> Yes you can... you just boost 3k & 10k on the shoulder portion
> of the cat & you're there.
>
> :DBT had 8 cards in his 13 slot Magma when I shot the vid. Dunno if that helps
you or not, but that is the max amount of EDS cards in any one rig.
AA
"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:459fedda$1@linux...
>
> Hey guys, as pricing for EDS cards have dropped, I've purchased a couple
> more
> to add to my 3 card system. Typically, I keep one as a back up, but I
> wanted
> to know if there were any problems adding a fourth and possibly the fifth
> to my 8 channel Avid extender.
>
> I spoke with Gene and recall him mentioning that there might be a problem
> going beyond 3 cards (Gene, was that within the PC?).
>
> Before purchasing the extender, my Win98 PC worked with the 3 cards
> installed
> and I put in the fourth to test and it worked, though I only tested it for
> a short period.
>
> I recall reading posts of larger systems, but can't recall the details.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tyrone
>
>
>
>Or conversely, an expired poodle and Drumadog.
(bad-dump.. splash)
AA
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:459fff36@linux...
>I thought about this and I bet you could use catagog to retrigger.
> My bad.
> AA
>
> "Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:459f24b5$1@linux...
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>remember, you can always
>>>pull back the click to be less present in the mix but if it sounds like
>>
>>>you're smacking the drum with a dead cat body, you can't recover a click
>>
>>>that wasn't there to start.
>>
>> Yes you can... you just boost 3k & 10k on the shoulder portion
>> of the cat & you're there.
>>
>> :D
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>More Stephen Stories
>
>Way back when he used to call me once a month or so (who would have thought),
>in the first days of the NG...
Yup, this NG was a really odd (in a good way) place a long, long time ago.
You're talking about even before I was involved, but I think I got a taste.
I post a question, lil' ol' me, and get an answer from SSC and/or Edmund,
and then Jason Miles tells what and idiot I am and how many Grammy winning
records he's worked on. Lotta fun, them days.
TCB
>We were talking about oberheim stuff, and I was recalling how much I liked
>this oberheim drum machine I used to use 'back in the 80s' because it was
>so easy to program, had decent sounds for electronic music and 8 outs.
He
>said, yeah it's a DMX, I have one if you want it. I never took him up on
>it. Lo and behold there it is on the equipment list.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>I would love to have that shot-up Lex!
>>
>>I'd put it right up on my wall. heh heh
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>Back in 98, I was thinking about getting a 480L. Stephen chimed in and
>
>>>posted to the NG that he had one for me, with ullet holes. He had been
>using
>>
>>>it for target practice and it was subsequently being used as a doorstop.
>>He
>>>recommended Quantec. I subsequently bought a Yardstick and have been very
>>
>>>happy with it but I've always wanted one of the original QRS units but
>have
>>
>>>been hesitant to buy one due to the age of the units and not knowing wo
>>did
>>>the maintenance. Sort of like the old Roland R-880, once it's toast, it's
>>
>>>likely to remain toast. I would imagine that Stephen took good care of
>his
>>
>>>unit and I'm thinking that if I don't have his QRS I might die.It's not
>>up
>>>for auction yet. I don't even want to think about the Helios console because
>>
>>>I know I can't possibly afford it.
>>>
>>>In the meantime, I need a pair of Horrortones
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:459ea5ad$1@linux...
>>>>
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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76564 is a reply to message #76560] |
Fri, 01 December 2006 08:39 |
LaMont
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;not_here.dude" target="_blank">know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>First one, the snare is more open and louder. I'm not sure I can really
>compare the two files because they're level-wise too differing. I think
with
>the right level adjustments the 2nd one will be the better/happier snare
to
>mix. The hard kick beater made a nice difference.. remember, you can always
>pull back the click to be less present in the mix but if it sounds like
>you're smacking the drum with a dead cat body, you can't recover a click
>that wasn't there to start.
>This graphic cat moment brought to you by Bolo dog treats.
>
>Seriously though, you are heading the right direction.
>You might want to experiment with the AKG in cardiod pointed on the side/at
>the body of the snare also, some guys dig what that does.
>
>AA
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:459e5328@linux...
>> Neil,
>>
>> Thanks for the input and kind words.
>> Yeah... we are probably thinking of different genres.
>> I am thinking of more along the lines of soft rock or something.
>> The one you choose I would think would be a good starting
>> point for something along the lines of Nirvana.
>> I hear what you mean about the live feeling or open-ness.
>> The major difference between the two is the use of the C1 comp on the
OHs
>> instead of the PARIS comp. Perhaps I squashed them a bit too much
>> even though they are the same settings. I forget, but the
>> PARIS comps work a bit differently don't they?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:459dd984$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Brandon, posted the other two files yu sent & shot you an
>>> e-mail with the links... personally, I like this one the best:
>>>
>>>
>> http://saqqararecords.com/MiscAudio/BGoodwin-b52-3in2beater& amp;plasticbeater.mp3
>>>
>>> The snare seems to have more body to it & the whole kit a bit
>>> more life in general than this one:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/MiscAudio/BGoodwin-b52-3in& ;hardbeat&retunesnare.mp3
>>>
>>> (which I know you said is the one you liked best, but I guess
>>> it's a personal taste thing)
>>>
>>> But I mostly wanted you to know that none of these clips are a
>>> fair comparison, since you're not playing the exact same riffs
>>> in the exact same tempo & with the exact same striking force on
>>> each & every hit in each of the three clips.
>>>
>>> <evil grin>
>>>
>>> Seriously, though, IMNSFHO, none of the last three suck - in
>>> fact, either of them could be eminently useable, depending on
>>> the context & the genre of the music... and when I say "useable"
>>> I don't necessarily mean "dialed-in & ready to RAWK", I mean:
>>> "a very good starting point from which to begin to tweak".
>>> Gotta remember, it's often easier to make drums sound good by
>>> themselves than it is to make them work in the context of
>>> whatever you're mixing (otherwise, would guys with shitoads of
>>> Grammys on their walls be endorsing Drumagog, and would there
>>> even BE a software app called "Sound Replacer"?).
>>>
>>> One question, though - you said you had your snare mic "in the
>>> usual position"? I don't know what that means... IME, there IS
>>> no "usual position" every snare sound has it's own needs &
>>> snare is one of the instruments (Don looks at the kit as a
>>> single instrument, I look at it as a bunch of individual
>>> instruments that have to work togeher in a very specific
>>> manner - like a string section, for example) wherein a VERY
>>> SLIGHT move of the mic can make an ENORMOUS difference in the
>>> sound you get... a half-inch can make the dfference
>>> beween "thwump" and "BANG!"
>>>
>>> Anyway, looks like you got some good advice from Aaron &
>>> others, I think the moon gel helped that particular kit, and
>>> switching kick mics made a big diff. Those sound good - I've
>>> heard a lot worse.... you're ready to go, dude; you've got a
>>> good starting point... bring someone in there & start tracking!
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pl30q2lsb4p4jqvqen15sle4tu9kj36n5l@4ax.com...
> do you do anything simple???
That's the standard method for rendering and dithering in Wavelab, if you're
a total control freak and want to make sure you don't end up saving your
file to a temp directory that you'll never find again.
i'd hate to be behind you at a ball game
> bathroom line and have 6 beers in me...ohhhhh lordy...
I'd prolly hurry it up. I'm not too sure I'd feel very good about having you
squirming around behind me squeezin' your lizard in a bathroom.
;o)
;o)Well, I tried 192 instead of the usual 128 and got the same debris. Didn't
try any other rates.
S
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> does it sound that way converted to all mp3 rates?
>
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 02:07:26 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Help,
>>
>> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and
>>when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what
>>a
>>cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the player. It's a
>>16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings for the mp3
>>that
>>I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my bedroom computer and
>>tried
>>doing the conversion there and got the same result, which makes me think I
>>did something weird to the .wav file that's messing up the conversion
>>process somehow. Any ideas?
>>
>>Sarah
>>
>There was a miniscule DC offset in one channel, but correcting that didn't
change the problem.
S
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uot;DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:459fe33f$1@linux...
> Sarah,.............did you.........
>
> Import the individual .paf's into a stereo file in WL (go to
> File>Open>Wave>file type>Ensoniq PAF then shift+right click on each one
> and then click on open?
>
> At this point, the L & R mono files whould open as a stereo PAF in
> Wavelab.
>
> Then did you process/dither the files using the render function and save
> them as a separate file? did they play back OK? Then did you set a
> directory path to save this as a 16bit/44.1kHz .wav file? Did it still
> play back OK?
>
> Next, did you go to File>Save Special (wave)>Encode MP3>Save as
> Type>MPEG-1 Layer3 (MP3) and below this there should be an active bar that
> should say :
> MP3/Stereo/44.100Hz/LameEric-128Kbs/Attr
>
> Then you name the file and directory pach and hit OK. this works for me
> every time.
>
> I'll be out for a few hours. I'll check back in later on. If you're still
> having trouble PM me a animix-at-animas-dot-net and I'll try to help you
> get this going.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deej
>
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
> news:459f7215$1@linux...
>> Help,
>>
>> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and
>> when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what
>> a cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the player.
>> It's a 16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings for the
>> mp3 that I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my bedroom
>> computer and tried doing the conversion there and got the same result,
>> which makes me think I did something weird to the .wav file that's
>> messing up the conversion process somehow. Any ideas?
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>
>Shouldn't do anything with the sound, as far as I know. Have you heard about
creating optimized audio file headers on wave files? I think it's a form for
exstra non audio informations. But Paris hate to import wave files with
these kind of things, so there is a little program that can strip this
header things. You can do this thing inside Wavelab too, I think it's in the
Option/Preferences/File folder.
Good luck
Erling
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> skrev i melding news:45a0a3b8@linux...
> Strip header thing . . . ? Do I want to know what that is?"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>I've got the synth pack on my system and I'm assuming this is in there
>somewhere. I'll give it a try.
>
>Deej
>
>"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote in message news:459fa0ca$1@linux...
>>
>> I posted this idea on PlanetZ but I'll repeat it here.
>>
>> Since I feel like satuation/clipping has more to do with bigger mixes
>> (obviously
>> a big selling point in paris with its ability to crank levels) this is
one
>> area I've been concentrating on more than summing issues.
>>
>> There is a modular synth addon for SCOPE called Adern Flexor. Included
in
>> it is about 5-6 saturation modules:
>>
>> http://adern.com/manuals/flexor/reference/shapers/saturation /soft_sat.htm
>>
>> My idea is to strap these across multiple channels in SCOPE while
>> streaming
>> my mix from a native app through them.
>>
>> I'll be doing some tests and let you guys know how they come out.
>>
>> Jesse
>
>
DJ,
The adern modules are a 3rd party add on for the SCOPE modular system. so
they wont be there in a synth pack.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21138&high light=ecc83
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21014&high light=ecc83
Those two are free though. I've already experimented with the ECC83 and
its nice for smoothing out transients on a mix.
JesseHi if you have senn my posts for ecc83 I have noted that used subtly can make
a great smoothing tube /tape effect.
I asked for a special versuion with no knobs just this subtle effect that
tubes introduce when driven moderately and he will be making this so stay
tuned !
In the meanwhile try the free ecc83 with my suggested setting at pulsar forum.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Jesse Skeens" <jskeens@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I posted this idea on PlanetZ but I'll repeat it here.
>
>Since I feel like satuation/clipping has more to do with bigger mixes (obviously
>a big selling point in paris with its ability to crank levels) this is one
>area I've been concentrating on more than summing issues.
>
>There is a modular synth addon for SCOPE called Adern Flexor. Included
in
>it is about 5-6 saturation modules:
>
> http://adern.com/manuals/flexor/reference/shapers/saturation /soft_sat.htm
>
>My idea is to strap these across multiple channels in SCOPE while streaming
>my mix from a native app through them.
>
>I'll be doing some tests and let you guys know how they come out.
>
>JesseHey Doug !
Any news about then Paris plugins ??
Cannot wait ... :)
Regards and Happy new year.
Dimitrios
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> writes:
>> Same Steve Roach who used to live in austin and play keyboards for The
>> Lotions?
>
>I don't think so, but I'm not sure... The Steve Roach I know used to live
>in LA and then moved here to Tucson some time ago. He's probably the
>preeminent ambient music artist in the world... http://www.steveroach.com
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi if you have senn my posts for ecc83 I have noted that used subtly can
make
>a great smoothing tube /tape effect.
>I asked for a special versuion with no knobs just this subtle effect that
>tubes introduce when driven moderately and he will be making this so stay
>tuned !
>In the meanwhile try the free ecc83 with my suggested setting at pulsar
forum.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
Dimitros yes I saw your post, need to read it again.
I am having some trouble just getting unit gain from this. I send it signal
with no tube knobs up and the level is reduced. It seems about 8-10db of
output gain is needed to adjust this.
It also seems like processing is applied even with the knobs all the way
down.
that being said I like what I hear so far, subtly increasing the drive and
the transients get softly rounded yet not muffled.
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Sarah,
And the problem is?
It's an mp3. Sounds okay unless the hat was
supposed to be more straight than it sounded on 3+.
Try burning a disc and listen on another system to see
if it still sucks. =20
It sounded okay here. Nifty actually!
T.
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in mess
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t;BR>but that's crazy. I don't know. I'm =
still=20
experimenting.<BR><BR>If you want to hear what I'm hearing, I put a =
couple 14=20
second snippets of <BR>the mp3 and the original .wav file here:<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival =
bit.wav">http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit.wav</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival bit =
1.mp3">http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit%201.mp3</A><BR><BR>=
Pretty=20
ugly . . .<BR><BR>Anyway . . . thanks DJ, and everyone else for your=20
help.<BR><BR>Sarah<BR><BR><BR>"DJ" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A href=3D"news:459fe33f$1@linux">news:459fe33f$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
Sarah,.............did you.........<BR>><BR>> Import the =
individual=20
.paf's into a stereo file in WL (go to <BR>> =
File>Open>Wave>file=20
type>Ensoniq PAF then shift+right click on each one <BR>> and =
then click=20
on open?<BR>><BR>> At this point, the L & R mono files =
whould open=20
as a stereo PAF in <BR>> Wavelab.<BR>><BR>> Then did you=20
process/dither the files using the render function and save <BR>> =
them as a=20
separate file? did they play back OK? Then did you set a <BR>> =
directory=20
path to save this as a 16bit/44.1kHz .wav file? Did it still <BR>> =
play=20
back OK?<BR>><BR>> Next, did you go to File>Save Special=20
(wave)>Encode MP3>Save as <BR>> Type>MPEG-1 Layer3 (MP3) =
and below=20
this there should be an active bar that <BR>> should say :<BR>>=20
MP3/Stereo/44.100Hz/LameEric-128Kbs/Attr<BR>><BR>> Then you name =
the=20
file and directory pach and hit OK. this works for me <BR>> every=20
time.<BR>><BR>> I'll be out for a few hours. I'll check back in =
later=20
on. If you're still <BR>> having trouble PM me a =
animix-at-animas-dot-net=20
and I'll try to help you <BR>> get this going.<BR>><BR>>=20
Regards,<BR>><BR>> Deej<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Sarah" =
<<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com">sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</A>>=
wrote=20
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=
href=3D"news:459f7215$1@linux">news:459f7215$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>=20
Help,<BR>>><BR>>> I just finished the =
first demo=20
track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and <BR>>> when I convert it =
to mp3=20
(in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what <BR>>> a =
cassette tape=20
used to sound like after it got eaten by the player. <BR>>> It's =
a 16=20
bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings for the =
<BR>>>=20
mp3 that I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my =
bedroom=20
<BR>>> computer and tried doing the conversion there and got the =
same=20
result, <BR>>> which makes me think I did something weird to the =
..wav=20
file that's <BR>>> messing up the conversion process =
somehow. Any=20
ideas?<BR>>><BR>>> Sarah<BR>>><BR>><BR>>=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0315_01C73220.7FE2A2D0--"having you squirming around behind me squeezin' your lizard in a
bathroom."
with an image like that, who needs tv...i'm pulling my plug right
now...i mean the tv's plug...never mind i'm leaving now.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:19:20 -0700, "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:pl30q2lsb4p4jqvqen15sle4tu9kj36n5l@4ax.com...
>> do you do anything simple???
>
>That's the standard method for rendering and dithering in Wavelab, if you're
>a total control freak and want to make sure you don't end up saving your
>file to a temp directory that you'll never find again.
>
>
> i'd hate to be behind you at a ball game
>> bathroom line and have 6 beers in me...ohhhhh lordy...
>
>I'd prolly hurry it up. I'm not too sure I'd feel very good about having you
>squirming around behind me squeezin' your lizard in a bathroom.
>
>;o)
>
>
>;o)
>you can't use that kind of language here! first it's deej with lizard
and now you with caboodle. TGIS i say TGIS.
On 7 Jan 2007 11:53:51 +1000, "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The *whole* kit was $169???? Daaaaaang.
>
>What about the caboodle? Was there a caboodle to go along with
>that kit?
>
>:)I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris eds compressor.
I combined some users tips here...
You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field as
needed.
You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release attack about
12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms to the
left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
Now these will be the compressed only drums.
Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and you
put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no threshold
and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2 the
dry drums.
Happy new Year.
DimitriosDid you try compressing a mix with no hihats? And did the wierd little
glitches go away?
Looking forward to your next CD.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Sarah wrote:
>> Sarah,.............did you.........
>
> Well, not exactly, but I followed the same process I used for all the tracks
> on the "Wayward" CD, and those mp3's are all fine (
> http://www.sarahtonin.com/wayward%20back.htm )
> I tried converting some other files just as an experiment, and it seems this
> distortion only happens on tracks that have the Alesis DM5 drum module, and
> it seems like it might be related specifically to the DM5 hi hat hits . . .
> but that's crazy. I don't know. I'm still experimenting.
>
> If you want to hear what I'm hearing, I put a couple 14 second snippets of
> the mp3 and the original .wav file here:
> http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit.wav
> http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit%201.mp3
>
> Pretty ugly . . .
>
> Anyway . . . thanks DJ, and everyone else for your help.
>
> Sarah
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:459fe33f$1@linux...
>> Sarah,.............did you.........
>>
>> Import the individual .paf's into a stereo file in WL (go to
>> File>Open>Wave>file type>Ensoniq PAF then shift+right click on each one
>> and then click on open?
>>
>> At this point, the L & R mono files whould open as a stereo PAF in
>> Wavelab.
>>
>> Then did you process/dither the files using the render function and save
>> them as a separate file? did they play back OK? Then did you set a
>> directory path to save this as a 16bit/44.1k
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target="_blank">sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:459f7215$1@linux...
>>> Help,
>>>
>>> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and
>>> when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what
>>> a cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the player.
>>> It's a 16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings for the
>>> mp3 that I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my bedroom
>>> computer and tried doing the conversion there and got the same result,
>>> which makes me think I did something weird to the .wav file that's
>>> messing up the conversion process somehow. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>
>
>Yeah, I'm not sure I'm hearing anything other than what sounds
like a regular mp3 conversion, excpt for one thing... I heard
what seemed to be some clicks on the bassoon/sax-sounding thing
that I didn't notice in the wav file... nothing with the hi-hat
though, so I dunno if the DM-5 has anything to do with it. This
is just on my PC speakers.
Neil
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Sarah,
>And the problem is?
>
>It's an mp3. Sounds okay unless the hat was
>supposed to be more straight than it sounded on 3+.
>
>Try burning a disc and listen on another system to see
>if it still sucks. =20
>
>It sounded okay here. Nifty actually!
>T.
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
>news:45a0ac6d$1@linux...
> > Sarah,.............did you.........
>
> Well, not exactly, but I followed the same process I used for all the
=
>tracks=20
> on the "Wayward" CD, and those mp3's are all fine (=20
> http://www.sarahtonin.com/wayward%20back.htm )
> I tried converting some other files just as an experiment, and it =
>seems this=20
> distortion only happens on tracks that have the Alesis DM5 drum =
>module, and=20
> it seems like it might be related specifically to the DM5 hi hat hits
=
>. . .=20
> but that's crazy. I don't know. I'm still experimenting.
>
> If you want to hear what I'm hearing, I put a couple 14 second =
>snippets of=20
> the mp3 and the original .wav file here:
> http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit.wav
> http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit%201.mp3
>
> Pretty ugly . . .
>
> Anyway . . . thanks DJ, and everyone else for your help.
>
> Sarah
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:459fe33f$1@linux...
> > Sarah,.............did you.........
> >
> > Import the individual .paf's into a stereo file in WL (go to=20
> > File>Open>Wave>file type>Ensoniq PAF then shift+right click on each
=
>one=20
> > and then click on open?
> >
> > At this point, the L & R mono files whould open as a stereo PAF in=20
> > Wavelab.
> >
> > Then did you process/dither the files using the render function and
=
>save=20
> > them as a separate file? did they play back OK? Then did you set a=20
> > directory path to save this as a 16bit/44.1kHz .wav file? Did it =
>still=20
> > play back OK?
> >
> > Next, did you go to File>Save Special (wave)>Encode MP3>Save as=20
> > Type>MPEG-1 Layer3 (MP3) and below this there should be an active =
>bar that=20
> > should say :
> > MP3/Stereo/44.100Hz/LameEric-128Kbs/Attr
> >
> > Then you name the file and directory pach and hit OK. this works for
=
>me=20
> > every time.
> >
> > I'll be out for a few hours. I'll check back in later on. If you're
=
>still=20
> > having trouble PM me a animix-at-animas-dot-net and I'll try to help
=
>you=20
> > get this going.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> >
> > "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message=20
> > news:459f7215$1@linux...
> >> Help,
> >>
> >> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD,
=
>and=20
> >> when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of =
>like what=20
> >> a cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the =
>player.=20
> >> It's a 16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same settings =
>for the=20
> >> mp3 that I've always used. I even installed Wavelab on my bedroom=20
> >> computer and tried doing the conversion there and got the same =
>result,=20
> >> which makes me think I did something weird to the .wav file that's=20
> >> messing up the conversion process somehow. Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Sarah
> >>
> >
> >=20
>
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sarah,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And the problem is?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's an mp3. Sounds okay unless =
>the hat=20
>was</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>supposed to be more straight than it =
>sounded on=20
>3+.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try burning a disc and =
>listen on another=20
>system to see</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if it still sucks. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It sounded okay here. Nifty=20
>actually!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"Sarah" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com">sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:45a0ac6d$1@linux">news:45a0ac6d$1@linux</A>...</DIV>>=20
> Sarah,.............did you.........<BR><BR>Well, not exactly, but I =
>followed=20
> the same process I used for all the tracks <BR>on the "Wayward" CD, =
>and those=20
> mp3's are all fine ( <BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.sarahtonin.com/wayward =
>back.htm">http://www.sarahtonin.com/wayward%20back.htm</A>=20
> )<BR>I tried converting some other files just as an experiment, and it
=
>seems=20
> this <BR>distortion only happens on tracks that have the Alesis DM5 =
>drum=20
> module, and <BR>it seems like it might be related specifically to the
=
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; hat hits . . . <BR>but that's crazy. I don't know. I'm =
>still=20
> experimenting.<BR><BR>If you want to hear what I'm hearing, I put a =
>couple 14=20
> second snippets of <BR>the mp3 and the original .wav file here:<BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival =
>bit.wav">http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit.wav</A><BR><A=20
> href=3D"http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival bit =
>1.mp3">http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit%201.mp3</A><BR><BR>=
>Pretty=20
> ugly . . .<BR><BR>Anyway . . . thanks DJ, and everyone else for your=20
> help.<BR><BR>Sarah<BR><BR><BR>"DJ" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:nowayjose@dude.net">nowayjose@dude.net</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A href=3D"news:459fe33f$1@linux">news:459fe33f$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>
> Sarah,.............did you.........<BR>><BR>> Import the =
>individual=20
> .paf's into a stereo file in WL (go to <BR>> =
>File>Open>Wave>file=20
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>then click=20
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>whould open=20
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> process/dither the files using the render function and save <BR>> =
>them as a=20
> separate file? did they play back OK? Then did you set a <BR>> =
>directory=20
> path to save this as a 16bit/44.1kHz .wav file? Did it still <BR>> =
>play=20
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>and below=20
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> MP3/Stereo/44.100Hz/LameEric-128Kbs/Attr<BR>><BR>> Then you name =
>the=20
> file and directory pach and hit OK. this works for me <BR>> every=20
> time.<BR>><BR>> I'll be out for a few hours. I'll check back in =
>later=20
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>animix-at-animas-dot-net=20
> and I'll try to help you <BR>> get this going.<BR>><BR>>=20
> Regards,<BR>><BR>> Deej<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Sarah" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com">sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <BR>> <A=20
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>href=3D"news:459f7215$1@linux">news:459f7215$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>=20
> Help,<BR>>><BR>>> I just finished the =
>first demo=20
> track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and <BR>>> when I convert it =
>to mp3=20
> (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like what <BR>>> a =
>cassette tape=20
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>a 16=20
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>bedroom=20
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>same=20
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>.wav=20
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>somehow. Any=20
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>Strait music where I bought my Beta52A a few days ago has about
5 drum mic kits on sale. CAD, Audio Technica, Shure, etc..
All for under $200. I was very tempted to get one.
I was like the ...the Beta52A was $170 by itself...Hmmm... I could get the
entire kit dor that much...,but they were lower grade mics and I wanted good
quality so I passed.
If I had another $200 to spend I would have got one of them.
Anyway Strait Music at 620 and 183...if you guys want to give 'em a call.
(Austin Texas)
B
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>you can't use that kind of language here! first it's deej with lizard
>and now you with caboodle. TGIS i say TGIS.
>
>
>
>On 7 Jan 2007 11:53:51 +1000, "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The *whole* kit was $169???? Daaaaaang.
>>
>>What about the caboodle? Was there a caboodle to go along with
>>that kit?
>>
>>:)
>Hello people... the C -16 was working well when I first got it.. didn't
use it for a while.. reconnected it again.. it lit all leds and did nothing..
didn't move or function at all.. then it stopped the Paris from working
so I had to reinstall the Paris Pro 3 ... then reconnecting the C-16 no
leds even lit anymore.. did it fry ? any suggestions ?
Thanks alot in advance..
p.s : I am using aABIT AV8 3Rd eye MOBO with an Athlon AMD +3500 64
bit Processor with 4 EDS-1000 cards ( working on SBS Chassis expansion )
and MEC ( Black )Ok... I have been over thinking rock n' roll lately.
What I am thinking is....
If it takes roughly 28 feet for a 40hz wave form to develop
does that mean that that is the optimal distance for micing that frequency?
I figure only about 440hz and higher develop fully within 4 feet of the kick
drum.
So if i remember correctly a 60hz frequency will go thru one cylce at approximately
20-30ms into the kick sound.
So I was wondering if shifting the lower frequencies back towards the beginning
of kick beat by approximately 20-30ms if that would give a more powerful
kick sound/tone.
Make sense?
Anyway I will be trying it.
Wonder if the same will help bass guitar or any instrument.
Perhaps I ned to just go to sleep.
B http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?oid=911d85ea5c7e3032&r url=video.yahoo.com&fr=yvmtfDon't forget to think about proximity effect in this equation. I do
encourage you to do experiments, keep going man. What you'll learn about
your mics, instruments and rooms will stay with you long after any recording
medium. Acoustic knowledge never goes out of style.
AA
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:45a12dc0$1@linux...
>
> Ok... I have been over thinking rock n' roll lately.
> What I am thinking is....
> If it takes roughly 28 feet for a 40hz wave form to develop
> does that mean that that is the optimal distance for micing that
> frequency?
> I figure only about 440hz and higher develop fully within 4 feet of the
> kick
> drum.
> So if i remember correctly a 60hz frequency will go thru one cylce at
> approximately
> 20-30ms into the kick sound.
> So I was wondering if shifting the lower frequencies back towards the
> beginning
> of kick beat by approximately 20-30ms if that would give a more powerful
> kick sound/tone.
> Make sense?
> Anyway I will be trying it.
> Wonder if the same will help bass guitar or any instrument.
> Perhaps I ned to just go to sleep.
>
> B
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Duh? Why didn't I think of that?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn you're good Dimitrios.
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
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I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris =
eds compressor.
I combined some users tips here...
You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field =
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needed.
You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release =
attack about
12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms =
to the
left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
Now these will be the compressed only drums.
Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and =
you
put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no =
threshold
and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2 =
the
dry drums.
Happy new Year.
Dimitrios
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band so they can start practicing, so I finally got a good mp3 by using the
"variable rate" and "highest quality" settings. It's a bit larger file, but
it sounds good. If you want to hear the whole demo, it's at
http://www.sarahtonin.com/playlist/Survival%20demo.m3u The section after the
second chorus will have some kind of solo, not sure what yet . . . violin?
slide guitar? gritty blues harmonica? kazoo? I don't know . . .
Thanks
Sarah
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45a0f460@linux...
>
> Did you try compressing a mix with no hihats? And did the wierd little
> glitches go away?
>
> Looking forward to your next CD.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Sarah wrote:
>>> Sarah,.............did you.........
>>
>> Well, not exactly, but I followed the same process I used for all the
>> tracks on the "Wayward" CD, and those mp3's are all fine (
>> http://www.sarahtonin.com/wayward%20back.htm )
>> I tried converting some other files just as an experiment, and it seems
>> this distortion only happens on tracks that have the Alesis DM5 drum
>> module, and it seems like it might be related specifically to the DM5 hi
>> hat hits . . . but that's crazy. I don't know. I'm still experimenting.
>>
>> If you want to hear what I'm hearing, I put a couple 14 second snippets
>> of the mp3 and the original .wav file here:
>> http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit.wav
>> http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Survival%20bit%201.mp3
>>
>> Pretty ugly . . .
>>
>> Anyway . . . thanks DJ, and everyone else for your help.
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:459fe33f$1@linux...
>>> Sarah,.............did you.........
>>>
>>> Import the individual .paf's into a stereo file in WL (go to
>>> File>Open>Wave>file type>Ensoniq PAF then shift+right click on each one
>>> and then click on open?
>>>
>>> At this point, the L & R mono files whould open as a stereo PAF in
>>> Wavelab.
>>>
>>> Then did you process/dither the files using the render function and save
>>> them as a separate file? did they play back OK? Then did you set a
>>> directory path to save this as a 16bit/44.1kHz .wav file? Did it still
>>> play back OK?
>>>
>>> Next, did you go to File>Save Special (wave)>Encode MP3>Save as
>>> Type>MPEG-1 Layer3 (MP3) and below this there should be an active bar
>>> that should say :
>>> MP3/Stereo/44.100Hz/LameEric-128Kbs/Attr
>>>
>>> Then you name the file and directory pach and hit OK. this works for me
>>> every time.
>>>
>>> I'll be out for a few hours. I'll check back in later on. If you're
>>> still having trouble PM me a animix-at-animas-dot-net and I'll try to
>>> help you get this going.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>>> news:459f7215$1@linux...
>>>> Help,
>>>>
>>>> I just finished the first demo track for the next Sarahtonin CD, and
>>>> when I convert it to mp3 (in Wavelab), it sounds awful, kind of like
>>>> what a cassette tape used to sound like after it got eaten by the
>>>> player. It's a 16 bit/44.1 khz wave file, and I'm using the same
>>>> settings for the mp3 that I've always used. I even installed Wavelab
>>>> on my bedroom computer and tried doing the conversion there and got the
>>>> same result, which makes me think I did something weird to the .wav
>>>> file that's messing up the conversion process somehow. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>>
>>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z-97jtqi38D...that sounds like a great idea. Thanks
Rod
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris eds
compressor.
>I combined some users tips here...
>You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
>You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
>Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field as
>needed.
>You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release attack
about
>12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms to
the
>left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
>Now these will be the compressed only drums.
>Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and you
>put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no threshold
>and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
>Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2 the
>dry drums.
>Happy new Year.
>DimitriosHow do you control the level of eachindividual instrument?
With the send pot on the channel?
B
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris eds
compressor.
>I combined some users tips here...
>You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
>You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
>Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field as
>needed.
>You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release attack
about
>12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms to
the
>left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
>Now these will be the compressed only drums.
>Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and you
>put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no threshold
>and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
>Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2 the
>dry drums.
>Happy new Year.
>DimitriosCan someone refresh my mind...
I remember there being some controversy
over how the EDS comp works in comparison
to any other soft comp.
Can anyone explain?
Thanks,
BThat's Great! HA
R
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z-97jtqi38If you use a setting like the Dimitrios LA2 setting you can get a very nice
mild compression. When I tried aggressive compression I got crap but the
mild one is very nice.
Threshold -75.1 db
Ratio 1.10:1
Attack 0.00126 sec
Release 0.052 sec
lookahead 0.000
output 6.3 db
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>Can someone refresh my mind...
>I remember there being some controversy
>over how the EDS comp works in comparison
>to any other soft comp.
>Can anyone expl
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Dedric Terry
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never figured it out either.
>
>Rob
>
><Kim W. noway.known> wrote in message news:45a2031f$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi all.
>> Never worked this out.
>> If it IS possible, how the hell do you arm the master fared to
>> record movements?
>> Thanks.
>> Kim W.
>
>oh hell yes!
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:59:37 -0700, "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?oid=911d85ea5c7e3032&r url=video.yahoo.com&fr=yvmtf
>Both the Master, and submix faders (or fareds)can be automated from the C-16
(yes, in classic mode) by doing the usual stuff (turning on automation and
edit automation on the mixer, arming the C-16 by pressing the solo and mute
at the same time)AND
clicking (and holding)on the apprpriate fader with the mouse.
Then use the fader on the C-16 for the moves.
If you put the C-16 in submix mode channels 1 thru 8 will control submix
1-8 and the master fader will control the Global master. When C-16 is in
normal mode the master fader controls whichever submix the C-16 is assigned
to.
Rod
"Kim W." noway.known wrote:
>
>Hi all.
>Never worked this out.
>If it IS possible, how the hell do you arm the master fared to
>record movements?
>Thanks.
>Kim W.Actually, when in submix mode, the submix faders can be selected with the
channel sellect buttons on the C-16. You only have to clickk on the master
fader, as there is no other way to select it.
Rod
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Both the Master, and submix faders (or fareds)can be automated from the
C-16
>(yes, in classic mode) by doing the usual stuff (turning on automation and
>edit automation on the mixer, arming the C-16 by pressing the solo and mute
>at the same time)AND
>clicking (and holding)on the apprpriate fader with the mouse.
>Then use the fader on the C-16 for the moves.
>
>If you put the C-16 in submix mode channels 1 thru 8 will control submix
>1-8 and the master fader will control the Global master. When C-16 is in
>normal mode the master fader controls whichever submix the C-16 is assigned
>to.
>Rod
>
>"Kim W." noway.known wrote:
>>
>>Hi all.
>>Never worked this out.
>>If it IS possible, how the hell do you arm the master fared to
>>record movements?
>>Thanks.
>>Kim W.
>Thanks guys,much appreciated!
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Never mind.
I used my usual workaround. Lucky I found some more Blu-Tak!
I guess that's one way to mix an orchestra!
Kim
"Kim W." <sdfkjgh@drfhjg.frgihu> wrote:
>
>> If it IS possible, how the hell do you arm the master fared to
>> record movements?
>
>Fared????? Sorry folks. (Jeez... I've heard that dyslexia IS a nasty disaese!)
>The manual states that it can be done in c16 "pro" mode, but I don't use
>"pro" mode. (and at this point in my illustrious career.. I don't really
>give a sh*^ about being "pro!")
>All I wanna do is automate those damn white fareds.
>Happy new year to all!
>
>
>
>"Robert" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Goin on 8 years with Paris, I've never figured it out either.
>>
>>Rob
>>
>><Kim W. noway.known> wrote in message news:45a2031f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> Never worked this out.
>>> If it IS possible, how the hell do you arm the master fared to
>>> record movements?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Kim W.
>>
>>
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> clicking (and holding)on the apprpriate fader with the mouse.
Sorry Rod, i'm sure I understand.Thanks, Rod.
You've saved me a fortune in Blu-Tak!
Now I'm gonna print out your instructions and stick 'em next
to my desk. (with blu-tak, of course!).
Cheers.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Actually, when in submix mode, the submix faders can be selected with the
>channel sellect buttons on the C-16. You only have to clickk on the master
>fader, as there is no other way to select it.
>Rod
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Both the Master, and submix faders (or fareds)can be automated from the
>C-16
>>(yes, in classic mode) by doing the usual stuff (turning on automation
and
>>edit automation on the mixer, arming the C-16 by pressing the solo and
mute
>>at the same time)AND
>>clicking (and holding)on the apprpriate fader with the mouse.
>>Then use the fader on the C-16 for the moves.
>>
>>If you put the C-16 in submix mode channels 1 thru 8 will control submix
>>1-8 and the master fader will control the Global master. When C-16 is in
>>normal mode the master fader controls whichever submix the C-16 is assigned
>>to.
>>Rod
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Sat, 02 December 2006 08:14 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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ever known!
James
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?oid=911d85ea5c7e3032&r url=video.yahoo.com&fr=yvmtf
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>http://gear.ign.com/articles/749/749883p1.htmlhad a friend who was rowdy till his chute didn't deploy fully. i
don't know if you had mentioned about your brother passing before but
if you did and i missed it...sorry for you and your families loss.
On 9 Jan 2007 06:11:36 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>I guess you missed my, Looking for a new Hobby?, post.
>
>My brother had about 1500 sky dives in before he past away, he would have
>loved this. Skydivers are the rowdiest, craziest, fun loving bunch I've
>ever known!
>
>James
>
>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?oid=911d85ea5c7e3032&r url=video.yahoo.com&fr=yvmtf
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>>Thanks Rick! I'm sorry to hear about your friend. My brother passed away
in 1997 the same day Princess Diana died. Skydiving may have been a factor
in his death, but it wasn't the cause of death. It's a long sad story, maybe
some day I'll post about it or throw up a web page. The following year a
bunch of his friends joined him when their King Air went down.
James
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>had a friend who was rowdy till his chute didn't deploy fully. i
>don't know if you had mentioned about your brother passing before but
>if you did and i missed it...sorry for you and your families loss.
>
>On 9 Jan 2007 06:11:36 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I guess you missed my, Looking for a new Hobby?, post.
>>
>>My brother had about 1500 sky dives in before he past away, he would have
>>loved this. Skydivers are the rowdiest, craziest, fun loving bunch I've
>>ever known!
>>
>>James
>>
>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?oid=911d85ea5c7e3032&r url=video.yahoo.com&fr=yvmtf
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>>>
>I got my new UAD-1 card... Swapped out both of my old cards, one at a time.
Still getting extraneous clicking noises. I am seriously bummed. I called
uaudio tech support got the same old line - "We don't support Paris any more.
We don't support Mac OS 9 any more.
Are any Mac Paris users running UAD-1 Powered Plugins v.3.9? Are you having
problems?
Thanks!
GanttI'm running paris 3.0 on a G4 Dual 867 with one UAD card
and UAD 3.8 software.No problems here.
Thanks Eugene
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>I got my new UAD-1 card... Swapped out both of my old cards, one at a time.
> Still getting extraneous clicking noises. I am seriously bummed. I called
>uaudio tech support got the same old line - "We don't support Paris any
more.
> We don't support Mac OS 9 any more.
>
>Are any Mac Paris users running UAD-1 Powered Plugins v.3.9? Are you having
>problems?
>
>Thanks!
>
>GanttI didn't have any problems 'til I switched to v.3.9 either. Unfortunately,
if I go back to 3.8 I lose some of the newer FX.
Gantt
"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I'm running paris 3.0 on a G4 Dual 867 with one UAD card
>and UAD 3.8 software.No problems here.
>Thanks Eugene
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I got my new UAD-1 card... Swapped out both of my old cards, one at a
time.
>> Still getting extraneous clicking noises. I am seriously bummed. I called
>>uaudio tech support got the same old line - "We don't support Paris any
>more.
>> We don't support Mac OS 9 any more.
>>
>>Are any Mac Paris users running UAD-1 Powered Plugins v.3.9? Are you having
>>problems?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Gantt
>Tyrone,
I'm running 4 x EDS cards in a 7 slod Avid branded Magma here. I got it from
chris. I think you old me you got yours from Chris too. You should be good
to go.
Deej
"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:459fedda$1@linux...
>
> Hey guys, as pricing for EDS cards have dropped, I've purchased a couple
> more
> to add to my 3 card system. Typically, I keep one as a back up, but I
> wanted
> to know if there were any problems adding a fourth and possibly the fifth
> to my 8 channel Avid extender.
>
> I spoke with Gene and recall him mentioning that there might be a problem
> going beyond 3 cards (Gene, was that within the PC?).
>
> Before purchasing the extender, my Win98 PC worked with the 3 cards
> installed
> and I put in the fourth to test and it worked, though I only tested it for
> a short period.
>
> I recall reading posts of larger systems, but can't recall the details.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tyrone
>
>
>
>Nebula2 Free
Wont run in 98, but very promising for its sound.
http://www.acusticaudio.com/
Extended version due soon (not free).
GeneDid you read my 2nd post? Still don't understand??? If so, what specifically?
Rod
"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147 AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>That was suppose to read: Sorry Rod, i'm...NOT...sure I understand.
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:45a25b76$1@linux...
>>
>> Robert...Sorry????? for what? did you read my 2nd post?
>> Rod
>> "Robert" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>AND
>> >> clicking (and holding)on the apprpriate fader with the mouse.
>> >
>> >Sorry Rod, i'm sure I understand.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Jamie wrote:
> Do you happen to know a good source for short banana plug control
> voltage cables and 1/8th inch audio patch cables?
Sorry to take so long replying to this - I forgot which thread it was in!
I don't use bananas myself, but for 3.5mm, check out:
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category/117/Cables_-_ 3.5mm_Plugs.html
The CB-352 cables are good - 2' for .90 each, quantity 10-99...
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.comSeems a little glitchy, and uses quite a bit of cpu, but
it does sound quite good. Worth checking out and watching.
Dedric
On 1/8/07 8:05 PM, in article 45a2f882$1@linux, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
> Nebula2 Free
>
> Wont run in 98, but very promising for its sound.
>
> http://www.acusticaudio.com/
>
> Extended version due soon (not free).
>
> GeneDedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Seems a little glitchy, and uses quite a bit of cpu, but
>it does sound quite good. Worth checking out and watching.
>
>Dedric
>
This plugin is based on a different convolution technology called dynamic
volterra kerneling. This form of dynamic convolution appears to not violate
the current Sintefex patents used by Focusrite and Sintefex, but it offers
the same kind of time variant realism.
The free plug includes very good sounding reverbs a very good compressor
and an excellent phaser among others. It appears to be just scratching what
this technology can do.
It is very CPU intensive.
GeneAnd you thought the iPod was only good for...
http://playlistmag.com/news/2007/01/08/tunestudio/index.phphe actually survived albeit slightly altered from the experience and i
declined to take my turn. (i was suppose to go next)
On 9 Jan 2007 07:09:51 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>Thanks Rick! I'm sorry to hear about your friend. My brother passed away
>in 1997 the same day Princess Diana died. Skydiving may have been a factor
>in his death, but it wasn't the cause of death. It's a long sad story, maybe
>some day I'll post about it or throw up a web page. The following year a
>bunch of his friends joined him when their King Air went down.
>
>James
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>had a friend who was rowdy till his chute didn't deploy fully. i
>>don't know if you had mentioned about your brother passing before but
>>if you did and i missed it...sorry for you and your families loss.
>>
>>On 9 Jan 2007 06:11:36 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I guess you missed my, Looking for a new Hobby?, post.
>>>
>>>My brother had about 1500 sky dives in before he past away, he would have
>>>loved this. Skydivers are the rowdiest, craziest, fun loving bunch I've
>>>ever known!
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?oid=911d85ea5c7e3032&r url=video.yahoo.com&fr=yvmtf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>Thanks Dimitrious
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a0d36c$1@linux...
>
> I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris eds
> compressor.
> I combined some users tips here...
> You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
> You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
> Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field as
> needed.
> You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release attack
> about
> 12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms to
> the
> left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
> Now these will be the compressed only drums.
> Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and you
> put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no threshold
> and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
> Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2 the
> dry drums.
> Happy new Year.
> DimitriosWhen you say 8 release....
You mean:?
8.
..8
..08
..008
..0008
??????????
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45a38aec@linux...
> Thanks Dimitrious
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a0d36c$1@linux...
> >
> > I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris eds
> > compressor.
> > I combined some users tips here...
> > You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
> > You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
> > Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field as
> > needed.
> > You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release attack
> > about
> > 12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms to
> > the
> > left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
> > Now these will be the compressed only drums.
> > Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and
you
> > put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no
threshold
> > and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
> > Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2 the
> > dry drums.
> > Happy new Year.
> > Dimitrios
>
>eight to the bar?
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>When you say 8 release....
>You mean:?
>8.
>.8
>.08
>.008
>.0008
>??????????
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45a38aec@linux...
>> Thanks Dimitrious
>>
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a0d36c$1@linux...
>> >
>> > I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris
eds
>> > compressor.
>> > I combined some users tips here...
>> > You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
>> > You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
>> > Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field
as
>> > needed.
>> > You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release attack
>> > about
>> > 12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms
to
>> > the
>> > left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
>> > Now these will be the compressed only drums.
>> > Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and
>you
>> > put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no
>threshold
>> > and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
>> > Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2
the
>> > dry drums.
>> > Happy new Year.
>> > Dimitrios
>>
>>
>
>Great, thanks Doug!
BTW, for banana cables another friend suggested this place:
http://www.elexp.com/tld_als9.htm
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Doug Wellington wrote:
> Jamie wrote:
>> Do you happen to know a good source for short banana plug control
>> voltage cables and 1/8th inch audio patch cables?
>
> Sorry to take so long replying to this - I forgot which thread it was in!
>
> I don't use bananas myself, but for 3.5mm, check out:
>
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More to come!Looks like it does most of the things that my Blackberry 8700 does.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>running Mac OSX???
>
>Meet the Beatles!
>
>Live blog
> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>
>Pictures of the iPhone
>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>
>http://www.apple.com/
>
>More to come!The smallest...
0.00008 whatever it is...
:)
Glad you like this drumsubmix compressing thing...
REgards,
Dimitrios
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>When you say 8 release....
>You mean:?
>8.
>.8
>.08
>.008
>.0008
>??????????
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45a38aec@linux...
>> Thanks Dimitrious
>>
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a0d36c$1@linux...
>> >
>> > I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using Paris
eds
>> > compressor.
>> > I combined some users tips here...
>> > You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
>> > You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
>> > Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo field
as
>> > needed.
>> > You open a eds compressor with 1.20 ratio 8 (yes only 8) release attack
>> > about
>> > 12 o'clock predelay 3 (if you want you can nudge all drumtracks 3 ms
to
>> > the
>> > left) threshold -96 and output like 4-5 db.
>> > Now these will be the compressed only drums.
>> > Now on aux 2 stereo again pre again yiou use the same aux settings and
>you
>> > put on aux 2 same eds compressor with same predelay BUT with no
>threshold
>> > and no ratio as to have the dry only signal.
>> > Thus with aux1 you control the compressed drummix only and with aux2
the
>> > dry drums.
>> > Happy new Year.
>> > Dimitrios
>>
>>
>
>I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums and
making a great drum production is at least also the following:
I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
recorded drums.
No preamp needed !!!
Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty plugin.
Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound and
not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
By the way their snare is fabulous.
These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming with
volume variations.
The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very low
hits to very loud.
Vwery very convincing...
So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog on
every one with appropriatte samples.
Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good reverb
for creating that.
You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
I am sure it will work just fine.
The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
Perfect world we live in right?
ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not contain
that hihat again in it...
Regards,
DimitriosI just finished attempting to go back to v.3.8 from v.3.9. I can't make it
work. I uninstalled all the UAD-1 3.9 stuff and re-installed 3.8 and I get
a message saying that there is a software mismatch and the plugins won't
work. I spoke w/ Casey at Universal Audio, who was very nice and tried to
be helpful, but in the end he couldn't figure it out either.
Have any Mac people gone from 3.9 back to 3.8?
Gantt
"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I'm running paris 3.0 on a G4 Dual 867 with one UAD card
>and UAD 3.8 software.No problems here.
>Thanks Eugene
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I got my new UAD-1 card... Swapped out both of my old cards, one at a
time.
>> Still getting extraneous clicking noises. I am seriously bummed. I called
>>uaudio tech support got the same old line - "We don't support Paris any
>more.
>> We don't support Mac OS 9 any more.
>>
>>Are any Mac Paris users running UAD-1 Powered Plugins v.3.9? Are you having
>>problems?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Gantt
>link please..
--
Thanks,
Brandon
<Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>
> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums and
> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
> recorded drums.
> No preamp needed !!!
> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
plugin.
> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound and
> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
> By the way their snare is fabulous.
> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming with
> volume variations.
> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very low
> hits to very loud.
> Vwery very convincing...
> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog on
> every one with appropriatte samples.
> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
reverb
> for creating that.
> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
> I am sure it will work just fine.
> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
> Perfect world we live in right?
> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
contain
> that hihat again in it...
> Regards,
> Dimitriosdid you do a search after the uninstall to make sure that everything
is gone. you may also have to do (crap, i can't remember the name but
it's mac dos) to look for stragglers?
On 10 Jan 2007 06:21:51 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>I just finished attempting to go back to v.3.8 from v.3.9. I can't make it
>work. I uninstalled all the UAD-1 3.9 stuff and re-installed 3.8 and I get
>a message saying that there is a software mismatch and the plugins won't
>work. I spoke w/ Casey at Universal Audio, who was very nice and tried to
>be helpful, but in the end he couldn't figure it out either.
>
>Have any Mac people gone from 3.9 back to 3.8?
>
>Gantt
>
>"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm running paris 3.0 on a G4 Dual 867 with one UAD card
>>and UAD 3.8 software.No problems here.
>>Thanks Eugene
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I got my new UAD-1 card... Swapped out both of my old cards, one at a
>time.
>>> Still getting extraneous clicking noises. I am seriously bummed. I called
>>>uaudio tech support got the same old line - "We don't support Paris any
>>more.
>>> We don't support Mac OS 9 any more.
>>>
>>>Are any Mac Paris users running UAD-1 Powered Plugins v.3.9? Are you having
>>>problems?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Gantt
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>link please..
>
>
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>
>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
and
>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
put
>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>> recorded drums.
>> No preamp needed !!!
>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>plugin.
>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
and
>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
with
>> volume variations.
>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
low
>> hits to very loud.
>> Vwery very convincing...
>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
on
>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>reverb
>> for creating that.
>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> Perfect world we live in right?
>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>contain
>> that hihat again in it...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
Do they ship to USA?
I dont see any on Ebay USA.
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >link please..
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Brandon
> >
> >
> >
> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
> and
> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
> put
> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
normal
> >> recorded drums.
> >> No preamp needed !!!
> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
sound
> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
> >plugin.
> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
> and
> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
> with
> >> volume variations.
> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
> low
> >> hits to very loud.
> >> Vwery very convincing...
> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
> on
> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
> >reverb
> >> for creating that.
> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
> >> Perfect world we live in right?
> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
> >contain
> >> that hihat again in it...
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
>I cleared out the System Extensions, the Preferences, the Bias Peak 3.0 LE
VST plugin folder, ther Paris VST plugin folder and the Powered Plugins Folder.
Trashed 'em all and emptied the trash. Where else is there to look?
Gantt
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>did you do a search after the uninstall to make sure that everything
>is gone. you may also have to do (crap, i can't remember the name but
>it's mac dos) to look for stragglers?
>
>
>
>On 10 Jan 2007 06:21:51 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I just finished attempting to go back to v.3.8 from v.3.9. I can't make
it
>>work. I uninstalled all the UAD-1 3.9 stuff and re-installed 3.8 and I
get
>>a message saying that there is a software mismatch and the plugins won't
>>work. I spoke w/ Casey at Universal Audio, who was very nice and tried
to
>>be helpful, but in the end he couldn't figure it out either.
>>
>>Have any Mac people gone from 3.9 back to 3.8?
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm running paris 3.0 on a G4 Dual 867 with one UAD card
>>>and UAD 3.8 software.No problems here.
>>>Thanks Eugene
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I got my new UAD-1 card... Swapped out both of my old cards, one at
a
>>time.
>>>> Still getting extraneous clicking noises. I am seriously bummed. I
called
>>>>uaudio tech support got the same old line - "We don't support Paris any
>>>more.
>>>> We don't support Mac OS 9 any more.
>>>>
>>>>Are any Mac Paris users running UAD-1 Powered Plugins v.3.9? Are you
having
>>>>problems?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>
>Dear Brandon,
The one with 20 triggers has also details in English if you scroll and he
shipps worldwide...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>Thanks, but I cant read that. ;-(
>Do they ship to USA?
>
>I dont see any on Ebay USA.
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3f14c$1@linux...
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072718740QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/20-E-Drum-Trigger-fuer-Schlagzeug-Pads-zu m-Selbstbau_W0QQitemZ190069327448QQihZ009QQcategoryZ46611QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/5-Original-DIGISOUND-Schlagzeug-E-Drum-Tr igger_W0QQitemZ120072401848QQihZ002QQcategoryZ46611QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> >link please..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Brandon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
>> and
>> >> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> >> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> >> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
>> put
>> >> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with
>normal
>> >> recorded drums.
>> >> No preamp needed !!!
>> >> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded
>sound
>> >> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>> >plugin.
>> >> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
>> and
>> >> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> >> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> >> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> >> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
>> with
>> >> volume variations.
>> >> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
>> low
>> >> hits to very loud.
>> >> Vwery very convincing...
>> >> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
>> on
>> >> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> >> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>> >reverb
>> >> for creating that.
>> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> >> Perfect world we live in right?
>> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>> >contain
>> >> that hihat again in it...
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Is 14,90 EURO = 1,936.46 USD
OR 19.3618 USD
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Thanks,
Brandon
<Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
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> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums and
> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and put
> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
> recorded drums.
> No preamp needed !!!
> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
> that sounds AWFUL but healthy
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ho have tried paris with Vista?
>>
>>Tony
>NO!
Tony wrote:
>Yes! using XP drivers (sorry if this one is a dumb question, I've been working
>full time for years with Paris now and have not updated my self in Paris
>issues since XP was released)
>
>Tony
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>
>>using xp drivers ?
>>
>>"Tony" <Tony@glocalnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Anyone who have tried paris with Vista?
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
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Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Hi Gantt ,
I went from 3.9 back to 3.7 because it seems to
work more reliably. There is a UAD folder on
your boot drive, in the PARIS VST Folder and in system
folder-application support area.
hope that helps,
regards,
Mike
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I just finished attempting to go back to v.3.8 from v.3.9. I can't make
it
>work. I uninstalled all the UAD-1 3.9 stuff and re-installed 3.8 and I
get
>a message saying that there is a software mismatch and the plugins won't
>work. I spoke w/ Casey at Universal Audio, who was very nice and tried
to
>be helpful, but in the end he couldn't figure it out either.
>
>Have any Mac people gone from 3.9 back to 3.8?
>
>Gantt
>
>"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm running paris 3.0 on a G4 Dual 867 with one UAD card
>>and UAD 3.8 software.No problems here.
>>Thanks Eugene
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I got my new UAD-1 card... Swapped out both of my old cards, one at a
>time.
>>> Still getting extraneous clicking noises. I am seriously bummed. I
called
>>>uaudio tech support got the same old line - "We don't support Paris any
>>more.
>>> We don't support Mac OS 9 any more.
>>>
>>>Are any Mac Paris users running UAD-1 Powered Plugins v.3.9? Are you
having
>>>problems?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>
>"Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
news:g578q2pid7blomniuncdgib6a2h7lc57fb@4ax.com...
> It's been days, at least, since I've been in here with a dumb
> question, so: can anybody point me to the info about "Wires" -- the
> plug itself, how to install, etc.?
>
> Much obliged; going for badly-needed coffee now -- chas.
>
Chuck should chime in here shortly, but it was part of the XP upgrade
intallation package as part of the Studio Controll Library DLL if I remember
correctly. So it should be there if you're rumming 3.0 on XP
As for operation...pop it in an Aux as a wires out and in an EDS insert as a
wires in...I have on occassion had problems sending a reverb across or
losing the link but a reinstantiation of the plug in both the AUx and EDS
insert seemed to sure that problem
DonHaving the drums in the overheads is usually crucial to my sounds... ymmv...
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Brandon,
>
>I would think any piezo drum triggers would work for this scenario. I've
>been thinking about buying some mesh drum heads and using triggers with
them
>like Dimitrios. This would get most of the actual drum sound out of the
>overheads. Check this link for some ideas.
>
>http://www.harmony-central.com/Drums/EDW/triggers.html
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76627 is a reply to message #76621] |
Sat, 02 December 2006 11:40 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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gt; >reverb
>>> >> for creating that.
>>> >> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>>> >> I am sure it will work just fine.
>>> >> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>>> >> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>>> >> Perfect world we live in right?
>>> >> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>>> >contain
>>> >> that hihat again in it...
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Dimitrios
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
a:
MP3player
Ms word,
Excel,
powerpoint,
Outlook 2003,
Media Player 10
Sprint TV
Camera
Recorder
Cool keyboard
Very fast Internet connection speeds..
This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
LaMont
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Some video highlights:
>
> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>
>
>More and better pictures:
>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>running Mac OSX???
>>
>>Meet the Beatles!
>>
>>Live blog
>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>
>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>
>>http://www.apple.com/
>>
>>More to come!
>I'm pretty sure I found everything, but I guess I need to try again when I
have time. Funnily enough, I was able to mix using UAD-1 FX for 3 hours
tonight w/ no problems.
Hey Mike - Whay did you go back to 3.7 instead of 3.8?
Gantt
"Mike Mullin" <lunarlordship@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>Hi Gantt ,
>I went from 3.9 back to 3.7 because it seems to
>work more reliably. There is a UAD folder on
>your boot drive, in the PARIS VST Folder and in system
>folder-application support area.
>hope that helps,
>regards,
>MikeI honestly don't remember .....
(I turned 50 a couple of we
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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76628 is a reply to message #76622] |
Sat, 02 December 2006 11:45 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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eks ago ;-)
PS In addition to the folders previously mentioned
I forgot the preference folder and
extension folder. In 9.2 all of that stuff needs to be
ripped out manually and trashed before you do a
clean install.
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I'm pretty sure I found everything, but I guess I need to try again when
I
>have time. Funnily enough, I was able to mix using UAD-1 FX for 3 hours
>tonight w/ no problems.
>
>Hey Mike - Whay did you go back to 3.7 instead of 3.8?
>
>Gantt
>
>"Mike Mullin" <lunarlordship@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Gantt ,
>>I went from 3.9 back to 3.7 because it seems to
>>work more reliably. There is a UAD folder on
>>your boot drive, in the PARIS VST Folder and in system
>>folder-application support area.
>>hope that helps,
>>regards,
>>Mike
>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
"LaMont" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Track Counts in Native Systems? [message #76629 is a reply to message #76616] |
Sat, 02 December 2006 11:03 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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lank">jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>a:
>MP3player
>Ms word,
>Excel,
>powerpoint,
>Outlook 2003,
>Media Player 10
>Sprint TV
>Camera
>Recorder
>Cool keyboard
>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>
>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>
>LaMont
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Some video highlights:
>>
>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>
>>
>>More and better pictures:
>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>
>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>
>>>Live blog
>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>
>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>
>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>
>>>More to come!
>>
>Here are the MacWorld keynote speech videos, for those of you that are interested.
The new Apple TV and iPhone are featured.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/I remember, in Nashville, back in the late 80's, that was a pretty big thing.
Seperate lines from peizo's just to trigger gates. pretty much zero crosstalk.
r
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>For live purposes (or studio if you're so inclined) those piezo's make a
>very nice trigger source to open gates too :)
>
>AA
>
><Dimitrios musurgio#otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45a3e838$1@linux...
>>
>> I am cobnvinced now that the best workuing method for triggering drums
and
>> making a great drum production is at least also the following:
>> I bought me Digisound drumtriggers for 15 euros 8 pieces.
>> I attached them on sanre tom kick using doublesided adhesive tape and
put
>> their output DIRECTLY to a SEPARATE Paris input module along with normal
>> recorded drums.
>> No preamp needed !!!
>> Just hook it unbalanced to Paris in and you get a healthy recorded sound
>> that sounds AWFUL but healthy enouph to drive DRUMAGOG, yes that beauty
>> plugin.
>> Amazing results no false triggering because you actually use the sound
and
>> not some fance trigger to midi to sound thing...
>> Just tailor drumagog to trigger the right way.
>> By the way their snare is fabulous.
>> These triggers are touch sensituive so you record the actual drumming
with
>> volume variations.
>> The drumagog snae is multisampled (many many samples there) from very
low
>> hits to very loud.
>> Vwery very convincing...
>> So you record different tracks , kick snare toms and yiou put drumagog
on
>> every one with appropriatte samples.
>> Use your drum overhead for some room ambience or you cam use some good
>> reverb
>> for creating that.
>> You can also attach them to cymbals !!.
>> I am sure it will work just fine.
>> The hihat is a problem though so kepp this live ! :)
>> You can kepp all your cymbals live by the way ...
>> Perfect world we live in right?
>> ow I will not care if I will record that perfect snare that will not
>> contain
>> that hihat again in it...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
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Dimitrios it's simple it's silly. The only problem is we can't automate
using this type of routing. Sometimes that's necessary.
"dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:45a3e5af$1@linux...
The smallest...
0.00008 whatever it is...
:)
Glad you like this drumsubmix compressing thing...
REgards,
Dimitrios
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>When you say 8 release....
>You mean:?
>8.
>.8
>.08
>.008
>.0008
>??????????
>
>--=20
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45a38aec@linux...
>> Thanks Dimitrious
>>
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:45a0d36c$1@linux...
>> >
>> > I would like to post the alternative to bus compressing using =
Paris
eds
>> > compressor.
>> > I combined some users tips here...
>> > You use aux 1 as a stereo feed to eds stereo compressor.
>> > You use the aux as pre and mute every drumtrack.
>> > Now using the aux pan pot you send the drumtracks to the stereo =
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