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Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92343] Sat, 03 November 2007 22:07 Go to next message
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92346 is a reply to message #92343] Sat, 03 November 2007 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92347 is a reply to message #92346] Sun, 04 November 2007 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92387 is a reply to message #92347] Sun, 04 November 2007 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> I'll take the wow factor of anything Euphonix to Digi controllers - which
>> works out well
>> since Euphonix is the one making it (or maybe making something we think
>> is a controller). :-)
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471e3b40@linux...
>>>
>>> Guys, the Mackie Controller s nver did "It" for me. They just looked and
>>> felt
>>> too clinical and dare I say cheesy. And, these new white/meets black
>>> paint
>>> jobs, just makes them llok like toys. Even expanded, they Lack the Wow!!
>>> factor.
>>>
>>> No, we need the styling of Digi's new C|24 with and better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Interesting, Dedric. To put together a really usable Mackie control rig
>>> is
>>>>$3.5k. That will cover the main unit, two extra fader banks, and the
>>>>rotary
>>>>controller. If Euphonix can do something better for a couple of grand
>>>>more,
>>>>then I'm all for it and I'll hold off a bit before buying anything. That
>>>>said, it MUST work with Live for me to have any interest, that's a deal
>>> breaker
>>>>for me.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>The speculation I'm hearing is either a smaller controller console, or
>>>
>>>>>smaller edit controller, or both.
>>>>>Since Euphonix has the $20k and up markets covered with other products,
>>>>the
>>>>>guess is it will in fact
>>>>>fall in the under $10k market - hopefully $5k or so - better than a
>>>>>Mackie
>>>>
>>>>>Controller, but not as expensive
>>>>>as an MC ($16k or so). I would have to guess it's a mix controller for
>>>>
>>>>>$5-$10k.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm holding out hope until January, but not necessarily holding my
>>>>>breath
>>>>on
>>>>>the price range.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:471e0a82$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted
>>>>the
>>>>>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at a
>>>>>> control
>>>>>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little
>>> extra
>>>>>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects
>>>
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> that might be informative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hey Mike - Any way to make any of these plugs stand alone vst plugs (for
other apps) ?

-Carl

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:476b9625$1@linux...
>
> Thanks, Tom!!
>
> I think the next plug will be a mono-band version of this so that one
> could
> use fewer DSP resources if it's just one band than needs to be tamed.
>
> Any thoughts on what would be most useful to you after that?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hey Mike,
>>Not sure how much I'll use it but I downloaded and donated a
>>few minutes ago. =20
>>
>>Thanks for you hard work!
>>Tom
>>
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>news:476b2ecf$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Is it PC only?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> gantt
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hi All,
>> >
>> >I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's
> =
>>a
>> combo
>> >of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS =
>>assembler
>> >for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing =
>>for the
>> >last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars. =20
>> >
>> >As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down =
>>to the
>> >bottom of the page.
>> >
>> >Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear =
>>how/if
>> >these plugins are being used.
>> >
>> >Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my =
>>girlfriend
>> a
>> >ring!!!!
>> >
>> >Cheers!
>> >Mike
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92397 is a reply to message #92387] Sun, 04 November 2007 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:476b13c2$1@linux...
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. =
It's a=20
> combo
> of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS =
assembler
> for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing =
for the
> last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>
> As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down =
to the
> bottom of the page.
>
> Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear =
how/if
> these plugins are being used.
>
> Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my =
girlfriend a
> ring!!!!
>
> Cheers!
> Mike=20




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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>you're in the middle of.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I haven't had anything catastrophic =
happen to my=20
system installing or</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using any of Mike's plugs.&nbsp; =
G</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>oodness knows I've had that in the recent =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>past!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Don Nafe" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:476bdc1e$1@linux">news:476bdc1e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Thanks=20
Mike<BR><BR>Downloaded and sent a few $$$<BR><BR>I too am in the =
middle of two=20
projects and haven't had a chance to drop them <BR>into Paris =
yet<BR><BR>New=20
Years I hope<BR><BR>Don<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" =
&lt;mike@..&gt;=20
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=
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t; Hi=20
All,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I've just posted my shinny, new multiband =
compressor for=20
PARIS.&nbsp; It's a <BR>&gt; combo<BR>&gt; of the X-Over and the PARIS =

Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler<BR>&gt; for your mixing =
and=20
mastering pleasure.&nbsp; I wish I'd had this thing for the<BR>&gt; =
last 10=20
years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; As =
always, you=20
can download it at <A =
href=3D"http://www.ensoniq.ca">www.ensoniq.ca</A>.&nbsp;=20
Just scroll down to the<BR>&gt; bottom of the page.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
Please let=20
me know what you think of this one.&nbsp; I'm dying to hear =
how/if<BR>&gt;=20
these plugins are being used.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Also, please send me=20
$$$$$!&nbsp; I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend a<BR>&gt;=20
ring!!!!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Cheers!<BR>&gt; Mike <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C843C9.B7D02C60--Yes, it's creative, I also like the Podium ad. Back to XP!

http://www.apple.com/getamac/

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>
>
>www.apple.com - Christmas theme (plays at site open) - pretty funny, and
=
>creative.
>
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A =
>href=3D"http://www.apple.com">www.apple.com</A> -=20
>Christmas theme (plays at site open) - pretty funny, and=20
>creative.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
><DIV><BR></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>lol - that one was good as well. Definitely true about the retreat to XP.
Not sure Leopard is quite meeting expectations in reality though. How is it
running there?

I talked to a film director last night that was having compatibiltiy
problems with his new install of Leopard - he was rather disappointed, but
I'm not sure his problems were more than a single PCI card not being
completely compatible - easy enough fix imho (replace it). However, that
will probably get sorted out way before Vista improves. We'll be on XP SP3
before Vista improves. At least Leopard doesn't have the security cobwebs
Vista does, or at least it's better hidden.

Regards,
Dedric

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:476bf501$1@linux...
>
> Yes, it's creative, I also like the Podium ad. Back to XP!
>
> http://www.apple.com/getamac/
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>www.apple.com - Christmas theme (plays at site open) - pretty funny, and
> =
>>creative.
>>
>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16546" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A =
>>href=3D"http://www.apple.com">www.apple.com</A> -=20
>>Christmas theme (plays at site open) - pretty funny, and=20
>>creative.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
>><DIV><BR></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Hi John,

There's a mono and a stereo version in the one dll file.

Thanks for the loot!

Enjoy,

Mike

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>A mono version would be most useful for me...:) Donation sent :)
>
>
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Thanks Mike
>>
>>Downloaded and sent a few $$$
>>
>>I too am in the middle of two projects and haven't had a chance to drop
>them
>>into Paris yet
>>
>>New Years I hope
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:476b13c2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's
>a
>>> combo
>>> of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
>>> for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for
>the
>>> last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>>>
>>> As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down to
>the
>>> bottom of the page.
>>>
>>> Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
>>> these plugins are being used.
>>>
>>> Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend
>a
>>> ring!!!!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Neil, I've heard similar results
>with Portico 5042..
>
>I've been looking at the HEDD 192 unit. But, I must admit, you can get similar
>results with just using Paris as a summing mixer.

No, Lamont that's NOTHING like what the 5042 does... I've tried
the Paris-as-summing-mixer thing too, remember?

NeilHey Dedric,

I never manged to get over there to check the pics out. Was out of town a
day or two. Would you mind emailing me the pics? It my initials at thadbrown.com.
I'd muchly appreciate it!

TCB

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Euphonix found out about the pics and had them all removed, well except
for
>the ones on my desktop. ;-)
>
>Excellent looking controllers - the controller has 4 faders with
>switches/knobs for each channel, as well as others, a touch screen, jog

>wheel surrounded by buttons. Also an 8-fader unit as well for expansion.

>Very nice looking units. Looking forward to the release in January.
>
>Dedric
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:476a9be4@linux...
>> This link is floating around:
>> http://forums.audiofanzine.com/index,idtopic,316841,forum,ne ws_euphonix_mc_mix.html
>>
>> Scroll down through the thread. Looks nice - maybe a bit wider than a

>> Mackie Control, but not as deep - price seems decent, unless you have
to
>> buy Eucon as well ($2k extra). It would fit really well with my setup.

>> Might have to relegate the Mackie control
>> to an edit suite. ;-)
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:471e5350@linux...
>>> I'll take the wow factor of anything Euphonix to Digi controllers - which

>>> works out well
>>> since Euphonix is the one making it (or maybe making something we think

>>> is a controller). :-)
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471e3b40@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Guys, the Mackie Controller s nver did "It" for me. They just looked
and
>>>> felt
>>>> too clinical and dare I say cheesy. And, these new white/meets black

>>>> paint
>>>> jobs, just makes them llok like toys. Even expanded, they Lack the Wow!!
>>>> factor.
>>>>
>>>> No, we need the styling of Digi's new C|24 with and better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting, Dedric. To put together a really usable Mackie control
rig
>>>> is
>>>>>$3.5k. That will cover the main unit, two extra fader banks, and the

>>>>>rotary
>>>>>controller. If Euphonix can do something better for a couple of grand

>>>>>more,
>>>>>then I'm all for it and I'll hold off a bit before buying anything.
That
>>>>>said, it MUST work with Live for me to have any interest, that's a deal
>>>> breaker
>>>>>for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>The speculation I'm hearing is either a smaller controller console,
or
>>>>
>>>>>>smaller edit controller, or both.
>>>>>>Since Euphonix has the $20k and up markets covered with other products,
>>>>>the
>>>>>>guess is it will in fact
>>>>>>fall in the under $10k market - hopefully $5k or so - better than a

>>>>>>Mackie
>>>>>
>>>>>>Controller, but not as expensive
>>>>>>as an MC ($16k or so). I would have to guess it's a mix controller
for
>>>>>
>>>>>>$5-$10k.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm holding out hope until January, but not necessarily holding my

>>>>>>breath
>>>>>on
>>>>>>the price range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:471e0a82$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted
>>>>>the
>>>>>>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at
a
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little
>>>> extra
>>>>>>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects
>>>>
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> that might be informative.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi Carl,

It is on my to do list, but my focus in on PARIS. I've always loved this
system, so VST will probably wait until there is nothing more for me to port,
the Mac versions are out, and the driver is perfect.

The day will come, though.






"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Hey Mike - Any way to make any of these plugs stand alone vst plugs (for

>other apps) ?
>
>-Carl
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:476b9625$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks, Tom!!
>>
>> I think the next plug will be a mono-band version of this so that one

>> could
>> use fewer DSP resources if it's just one band than needs to be tamed.
>>
>> Any thoughts on what would be most useful to you after that?
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey Mike,
>>>Not sure how much I'll use it but I downloaded and donated a
>>>few minutes ago. =20
>>>
>>>Thanks for you hard work!
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>news:476b2ecf$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Is it PC only?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> gantt
>>>
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Hi All,
>>> >
>>> >I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's
>> =
>>>a
>>> combo
>>> >of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS =
>>>assembler
>>> >for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing
=
>>>for the
>>> >last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars. =20
>>> >
>>> >As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down
=
>>>to the
>>> >bottom of the page.
>>> >
>>> >Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear =
>>>how/if
>>> >these plugins are being used.
>>> >
>>> >Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my =
>>>girlfriend
>>> a
>>> >ring!!!!
>>> >
>>> >Cheers!
>>> >Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Mike,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure how much I'll use it but I =
>>>downloaded and=20
>>>donated a</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>few minutes ago. </FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for you hard work!</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV> </DIV>
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>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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>>> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
>>>wrote in=20
>>> message <A=20
>>> =
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gt;</DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure how much I'll use it but I =
>>>>downloaded and=20
>>>>donated a</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>few minutes ago. </FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for you hard work!</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV> </DIV>
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>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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>>>> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote in=20
>>>> message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:476b2ecf$1@linux">news:476b2ecf$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
>>>> Mike,<BR><BR>Is it PC only?<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>gantt<BR><BR>"Mike
> =
>>>>Audet"=20
>>>> <mike@..> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi All,<BR>><BR>>I've just =
>>>>posted=20
>>>> my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's =
>>>>a<BR>combo<BR>>of=20
>>>> the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS=20
>>>> assembler<BR>>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish =
>>>>I'd had=20
>>>> this thing for the<BR>>last 10 years when dealing with boomy =
>>>>acoustic=20
>>>> guitars. <BR>><BR>>As always, you can download it at <A=20
>>>> href=3D"http://www.ensoniq.ca">www.ensoniq.ca</A>. Just scroll =
>>>>down to=20
>>>> the<BR>>bottom of the page.<BR>><BR>>Please let me know what =
>>>>you=20
>>>> think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if<BR>>these plugins =
>>>>are=20
>>>> being used.<BR>><BR>>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm =
>>>>broke, and I=20
>>>> need to get my=20
>>>> =
>>>>girlfriend<BR>a<BR>>ring!!!!<BR>><BR>>Cheers!<BR >>Mike<BR></B=
>>>>LOCKQUOTE>
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> =
>>>>and=20
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>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hi
I'm getting error code 1/1 on a new system, I've never had an issue getting
paris up and running on a new rig but this time i'm trying it on a dell c-doc
laptop system. Driver went in fine, then software but on re-start and running
of paris i get an error:( the card is not visible in XP control panel either...

Any suggestion would be a great help!
Thanks
AmosHey Mike !!
First I donate and then I download !
This is the least I can do for you !!!
I really love what you are doing.
Please note that your crossover plugin outputs some DC (high level !) sometimes
when first loaded and then you have to close and reload , but normally this
DC is there.
Anywhay your reverb is great !!
Any thoughts on getting rid of some resonances it produces ?
\your crossover is used a lot on my productions and your compressor too !
Only this DC thing if you please take a look at it.
Regards,
Dimitrios


"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's a
combo
>of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for the
>last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>
>As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down to the
>bottom of the page.
>
>Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
>these plugins are being used.
>
>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend
a
>ring!!!!
>
>Cheers!
>MikeMan oh man. Ok - I am loving this thing.

I push the hell out of the 2-track buss (eds comp) with my mixes, and
applying Mike's multiband version is letting me hit it like a madman, and
yet it's clearing things up and becoming more 'open' sounding. I am really
stoked about this.

Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of the
comps.

Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal eds
comp


Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband
eds comp

woo hoo!,
-Carlremember me...snail mail...the bill's in the mail guy???? sent
worthless american cash???? so post it here or email me.

;o)



On 22 Dec 2007 06:05:46 +1000, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:

>
>Hi Rick,
>
>It's mike at mikeaudet dot com.
>
>Cheers!
>
>Mike
>
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>email me your address again...i know i know
>>
>>On 22 Dec 2007 04:58:46 +1000, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Hi John,
>>>
>>>There's a mono and a stereo version in the one dll file.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the loot!
>>>
>>>Enjoy,
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A mono version would be most useful for me...:) Donation sent :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>Thanks Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Downloaded and sent a few $$$
>>>>>
>>>>>I too am in the middle of two projects and haven't had a chance to drop
>>>>them
>>>>>into Paris yet
>>>>>
>>>>>New Years I hope
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:476b13c2$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's
>>>>a
>>>>>> combo
>>>>>> of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
>>>>>> for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing
>for
>>>>the
>>>>>> last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down
>to
>>>>the
>>>>>> bottom of the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
>>>>>> these plugins are being used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend
>>>>a
>>>>>> ring!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>probably that you do not have the driver installed properly. Error 1/1 and
7/7 mean that it does not see hardware when you initialize the software.

AA

"Amos Parkinson" <amos@lakeside-studios.co.uk> wrote in message
news:476c27db$1@linux...
>
> Hi
> I'm getting error code 1/1 on a new system, I've never had an issue
> getting
> paris up and running on a new rig but this time i'm trying it on a dell
> c-doc
> laptop system. Driver went in fine, then software but on re-start and
> running
> of paris i get an error:( the card is not visible in XP control panel
> either...
>
> Any suggestion would be a great help!
> Thanks
> AmosMan, I tell you what I would REALLY love to see is a EDS DSP emulator
instead of ports to VST that could run as a vst.
THAT would completely rock dude. We've got the native kahunas to run tons of
EDS DSP now, if it could be emulated.

AA


"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote in message news:476c0805$1@linux...
>
> Hi Carl,
>
> It is on my to do list, but my focus in on PARIS. I've always loved this
> system, so VST will probably wait until there is nothing more for me to
> port,
> the Mac versions are out, and the driver is perfect.
>
> The day will come, though.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Hey Mike - Any way to make any of these plugs stand alone vst plugs (for
>
>>other apps) ?
>>
>>-Carl
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:476b9625$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tom!!
>>>
>>> I think the next plug will be a mono-band version of this so that one
>
>>> could
>>> use fewer DSP resources if it's just one band than needs to be tamed.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what would be most useful to you after that?
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey Mike,
>>>>Not sure how much I'll use it but I downloaded and donated a
>>>>few minutes ago. =20
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for you hard work!
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>>news:476b2ecf$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> Is it PC only?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> gantt
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >Hi All,
>>>> >
>>>> >I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's
>>> =
>>>>a
>>>> combo
>>>> >of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS =
>>>>assembler
>>>> >for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing
> =
>>>>for the
>>>> >last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars. =20
>>>> >
>>>> >As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down
> =
>>>>to the
>>>> >bottom of the page.
>>>> >
>>>> >Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear =
>>>>how/if
>>>> >these plugins are being used.
>>>> >
>>>> >Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my =
>>>>girlfriend
>>>> a
>>>> >ring!!!!
>>>> >
>>>> >Cheers!
>>>> >Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
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>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Mike,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure how much I'll use it but I =
>>>>downloaded and=20
>>>>donated a</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>few minutes ago. </FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for you hard work!</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote in=20
>>>> message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:476b2ecf$1@linux">news:476b2ecf$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
>>>> Mike,<BR><BR>Is it PC only?<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>gantt<BR><BR>"Mike
> =
>>>>Audet"=20
>>>> <mike@..> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi All,<BR>><BR>>I've just =
>>>>posted=20
>>>> my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's =
>>>>a<BR>combo<BR>>of=20
>>>> the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS=20
>>>> assembler<BR>>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish =
>>>>I'd had=20
>>>> this thing for the<BR>>last 10 years when dealing with boomy =
>>>>acoustic=20
>>>> guitars. <BR>><BR>>As always, you can download it at <A=20
>>>> href=3D"http://www.ensoniq.ca">www.ensoniq.ca</A>. Just scroll =
>>>>down to=20
>>>> the<BR>>bottom of the page.<BR>><BR>>Please let me know what =
>>>>you=20
>>>> think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if<BR>>these plugins =
>>>>are=20
>>>> being used.<BR>><BR>>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm =
>>>>broke, and I=20
>>>> need to get my=20
>>>> =
>>>>girlfriend<BR>a<BR>>ring!!!!<BR>><BR>>Cheers!<BR >>Mike<BR></B=
>>>>LOCKQUOTE>
>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
> =
>>>>and=20
>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>And this would allow a native Paris setup?

-Carl

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:476c3e9f@linux...
> Man, I tell you what I would REALLY love to see is a EDS DSP emulator
> instead of ports to VST that could run as a vst.
> THAT would completely rock dude. We've got the native kahunas to run tons
> of EDS DSP now, if it could be emulated.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote in message news:476c0805$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>> It is on my to do list, but my focus in on PARIS. I've always loved this
>> system, so VST will probably wait until there is nothing more for me to
>> port,
>> the Mac versions are out, and the driver is perfect.
>>
>> The day will come, though.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>Hey Mike - Any way to make any of these plugs stand alone vst plugs (for
>>
>>>other apps) ?
>>>
>>>-Carl
>>>
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:476b9625$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Tom!!
>>>>
>>>> I think the next plug will be a mono-band version of this so that one
>>
>>>> could
>>>> use fewer DSP resources if it's just one band than needs to be tamed.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on what would be most useful to you after that?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey Mike,
>>>>>Not sure how much I'll use it but I downloaded and donated a
>>>>>few minutes ago. =20
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for you hard work!
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:476b2ecf$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it PC only?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> gantt
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Hi All,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS.
>>>>> It's
>>>> =
>>>>>a
>>>>> combo
>>>>> >of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS =
>>>>>assembler
>>>>> >for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing
>> =
>>>>>for the
>>>>> >last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars. =20
>>>>> >
>>>>> >As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down
>> =
>>>>>to the
>>>>> >bottom of the page.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear =
>>>>>how/if
>>>>> >these plugins are being used.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my =
>>>>>girlfriend
>>>>> a
>>>>> >ring!!!!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Cheers!
>>>>> >Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>><META content=3D"MSHT
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>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Mike,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure how much I'll use it but I =
>>>>>downloaded and=20
>>>>>donated a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>few minutes ago. </FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for you hard work!</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
>>>>> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
>>>>>wrote in=20
>>>>> message <A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"news:476b2ecf$1@linux">news:476b2ecf$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
>>>>> Mike,<BR><BR>Is it PC only?<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>gantt<BR><BR>"Mike
>> =
>>>>>Audet"=20
>>>>> <mike@..> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi All,<BR>><BR>>I've just =
>>>>>posted=20
>>>>> my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's =
>>>>>a<BR>combo<BR>>of=20
>>>>> the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS=20
>>>>> assembler<BR>>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish =
>>>>>I'd had=20
>>>>> this thing for the<BR>>last 10 years when dealing with boomy =
>>>>>acoustic=20
>>>>> guitars. <BR>><BR>>As always, you can download it at <A=20
>>>>> href=3D"http://www.ensoniq.ca">www.ensoniq.ca</A>. Just scroll =
>>>>>down to=20
>>>>> the<BR>>bottom of the page.<BR>><BR>>Please let me know what =
>>>>>you=20
>>>>> think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if<BR>>these plugins =
>>>>>are=20
>>>>> being used.<BR>><BR>>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm =
>>>>>broke, and I=20
>>>>> need to get my=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>girlfriend<BR>a<BR>>ring!!!!<BR>><BR>>Cheers!<BR >>Mike<BR></B=
>>>>>LOCKQUOTE>
>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>> =
>>>>>and=20
>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Both sound good... I think you're right about the 2nd one
sounding a little better/bigger/more open, though.

"Hit it like a madman" - is that anything like "spank it like a
rented mule"? :)

You should post the whole song if you're able... I like the
tune - is that your own stuff?

Neil



"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Man oh man. Ok - I am loving this thing.
>
>I push the hell out of the 2-track buss (eds comp) with my mixes, and
>applying Mike's multiband version is letting me hit it like a madman, and

>yet it's clearing things up and becoming more 'open' sounding. I am really

>stoked about this.
>
>Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of
the
>comps.
>
>Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal eds

>comp
>
>
>Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband

>eds comp
>
>woo hoo!,
>-Carl
>
>Cool Neil. Glad someone else hears it and I'm not going totally nuts. ! :)

Those samples are for some stuff that is yet to be released - so I don't
really feel comfortable posting more than that. BUT - they are a really cool
band from Minneapolis called Self-Evident.
http://www.myspace.com/selfevident Not much going on with vocal melodies,
more of a spoken verse-type thing over *very* proggy 3-piece rock - however,
they seem to lock onto some great "anthem" riffs and hooks here and there.

rock on!,
-Carl

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476c4dcf$1@linux...
>
> Both sound good... I think you're right about the 2nd one
> sounding a little better/bigger/more open, though.
>
> "Hit it like a madman" - is that anything like "spank it like a
> rented mule"? :)
>
> You should post the whole song if you're able... I like the
> tune - is that your own stuff?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Man oh man. Ok - I am loving this thing.
>>
>>I push the hell out of the 2-track buss (eds comp) with my mixes, and
>>applying Mike's multiband version is letting me hit it like a madman, and
>
>>yet it's clearing things up and becoming more 'open' sounding. I am really
>
>>stoked about this.
>>
>>Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of
> the
>>comps.
>>
>>Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal eds
>
>>comp
>>
>>
>>Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband
>
>>eds comp
>>
>>woo hoo!,
>>-Carl
>>
>>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>It's a combo of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched
>together is EDS assembler for your mixing and mastering
>pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for the last 10 years
>when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.

Or, you could've just backed the mic off a bit.

LOL!

(just giving you a hard time ) :D

NeilThe first one sounds really good as Neil said, but you kinda need something
good obviously.

The second one however keeps giving me that feeling that I'm excited about
the music. ;o) I go back to the first and go "Nah, that's just as good" and
then to the second and go "Oh, no it's not".

So I kinda sounds better each time I switch.

I sooooo gotta get my Paris up and running and try this one. This is the
one. Want want want! :o)

Must find some money for Mike. How good!

Cheers,
Kim.


"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Man oh man. Ok - I am loving this thing.
>
>I push the hell out of the 2-track buss (eds comp) with my mixes, and
>applying Mike's multiband version is letting me hit it like a madman, and

>yet it's clearing things up and becoming more 'open' sounding. I am really

>stoked about this.
>
>Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of
the
>comps.
>
>Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal eds

>comp
>
>
>Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband

>eds comp
>
>woo hoo!,
>-Carl
>
>Back in the late '80's, I was photographer for a regional band that
was managed by a friend of mine.

The band released one cd and did pretty well with it, and then egos
and substances got in the way and the band ended up splitting, owing
my friend a ton of money for the cd.

However, I remembered that there was a second recording session for a
followup album that was never released.

My friend just called me.... he just found the original master tapes
for that second session! He had completely forgotten about them.

We thought we should mix the remaining seven songs and make a "lost
sessions" disc, if for no other reason than we'd finally like to hear
those songs finished.

Do any of you have contacts that would help me get two reels of 1"
16-track Ampex transferred to sd2 or aiff or wav? I told my buddy
that I'd be happy to take a shot at mixing, but it's hard to stuff
those reels into the disc slot on my pc.....

It would be useful if the studio were in the Chicago/southern
Michigan/Milwaukee area. Or, I could ship the tapes if you can advise
me on the safest way to do that.

We don't want to spend a lot on this, since there's no guarantee on
how many, if any of these we would sell if I manage to produce
something decent. It's mainly for old times' sake and because one of
those songs was one they used to do live and I always wanted a
recording of it.

You can post here or email me offlist at pbraun at ctgonline dot org.

Thanks.!Mike I willbe donating first quarter 08. Thank you thank you thank you for
all the work you've done with these nice Paris Plugins.

I love working in Paris and with these new plugins, I'll continue to use
Paris for my $$ jobs..


"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's a
combo
>of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for the
>last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>
>As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down to the
>bottom of the page.
>
>Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
>these plugins are being used.
>
>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend
a
>ring!!!!
>
>Cheers!
>MikeI have a 1 inch Tascam 16trk..
However it is 30ips only and with DBX and I have no alignment capability.
If this is the format I could do it for you an a few weks.


Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Back in the late '80's, I was photographer for a regional band that
>was managed by a friend of mine.
>
>The band released one cd and did pretty well with it, and then egos
>and substances got in the way and the band ended up splitting, owing
>my friend a ton of money for the cd.
>
>However, I remembered that there was a second recording session for a
>followup album that was never released.
>
>My friend just called me.... he just found the original master tapes
>for that second session! He had completely forgotten about them.
>
>We thought we should mix the remaining seven songs and make a "lost
>sessions" disc, if for no other reason than we'd finally like to hear
>those songs finished.
>
>Do any of you have contacts that would help me get two reels of 1"
>16-track Ampex transferred to sd2 or aiff or wav? I told my buddy
>that I'd be happy to take a shot at mixing, but it's hard to stuff
>those reels into the disc slot on my pc.....
>
>It would be useful if the studio were in the Chicago/southern
>Michigan/Milwaukee area. Or, I could ship the tapes if you can advise
>me on the safest way to do that.
>
>We don't want to spend a lot on this, since there's no guarantee on
>how many, if any of these we would sell if I manage to produce
>something decent. It's mainly for old times' sake and because one of
>those songs was one they used to do live and I always wanted a
>recording of it.
>
>You can post here or email me offlist at pbraun at ctgonline dot org.
>
>Thanks.!Yes I need to and to Kim.

I;d love a new delay for Paris


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been =
>throwing
>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the =
>scratch anything=20
>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the =
>five guys
>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work =
>is crazy.
>
>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>All done...
>T.
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>plugs donate=20
>too.  I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten =
>fold. =20
>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch =
>anything=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing.  Mike =
>could use some=20
>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>comp. =20
>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be =
>rewarded. =20
>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
>you?<BR><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A>   </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>Man~!! I hear the difference! mix B was way more open, yet still retained
it's agressive nature..

"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Man oh man. Ok - I am loving this thing.
>
>I push the hell out of the 2-track buss (eds comp) with my mixes, and
>applying Mike's multiband version is letting me hit it like a madman, and

>yet it's clearing things up and becoming more 'open' sounding. I am really

>stoked about this.
>
>Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of
the
>comps.
>
>Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal eds

>comp
>
>
>Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband

>eds comp
>
>woo hoo!,
>-Carl
>
>Dedric can you post those pics? or send me a email..??Please ..It's christmas..

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Dedric,
>
>I never manged to get over there to check the pics out. Was out of town
a
>day or two. Would you mind emailing me the pics? It my initials at thadbrown.com.
>I'd muchly appreciate it!
>
>TCB
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Euphonix found out about the pics and had them all removed, well except
>for
>>the ones on my desktop. ;-)
>>
>>Excellent looking controllers - the controller has 4 faders with
>>switches/knobs for each channel, as well as others, a touch screen, jog
>
>>wheel surrounded by buttons. Also an 8-fader unit as well for expansion.
>
>>Very nice looking units. Looking forward to the release in January.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:476a9be4@linux...
>>> This link is floating around:
>>> http://forums.audiofanzine.com/index,idtopic,316841,forum,ne ws_euphonix_mc_mix.html
>>>
>>> Scroll down through the thread. Looks nice - maybe a bit wider than
a
>
>>> Mackie Control, but not as deep - price seems decent, unless you have
>to
>>> buy Eucon as well ($2k extra). It would fit really well with my setup.
>
>>> Might have to relegate the Mackie control
>>> to an edit suite. ;-)
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:471e5350@linux...
>>>> I'll take the wow factor of anything Euphonix to Digi controllers -
which
>
>>>> works out well
>>>> since Euphonix is the one making it (or maybe making something we think
>
>>>> is a controller). :-)
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471e3b40@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys, the Mackie Controller s nver did "It" for me. They just looked
>and
>>>>> felt
>>>>> too clinical and dare I say cheesy. And, these new white/meets black
>
>>>>> paint
>>>>> jobs, just makes them llok like toys. Even expanded, they Lack the
Wow!!
>>>>> factor.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, we need the styling of Digi's new C|24 with and better.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Interesting, Dedric. To put together a really usable Mackie control
>rig
>>>>> is
>>>>>>$3.5k. That will cover the main unit, two extra fader banks, and the
>
>>>>>>rotary
>>>>>>controller. If Euphonix can do something better for a couple of grand
>
>>>>>>more,
>>>>>>then I'm all for it and I'll hold off a bit before buying anything.
>That
>>>>>>said, it MUST work with Live for me to have any interest, that's a
deal
>>>>> breaker
>>>>>>for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>The speculation I'm hearing is either a smaller controller console,
>or
>>>>>
>>>>>>>smaller edit controller, or both.
>>>>>>>Since Euphonix has the $20k and up markets covered with other products,
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>guess is it will in fact
>>>>>>>fall in the under $10k market - hopefully $5k or so - better than
a
>
>>>>>>>Mackie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Controller, but not as expensive
>>>>>>>as an MC ($16k or so). I would have to guess it's a mix controller
>for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>$5-$10k.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm holding out hope until January, but not necessarily holding my
>
>>>>>>>breath
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>the price range.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:471e0a82$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at
>a
>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little
>>>>> extra
>>>>>>>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>> that might be informative.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Really??

"Neil" <IOUOIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Neil, I've heard similar results
>>with Portico 5042..
>>
>>I've been looking at the HEDD 192 unit. But, I must admit, you can get
similar
>>results with just using Paris as a summing mixer.
>
>No, Lamont that's NOTHING like what the 5042 does... I've tried
>the Paris-as-summing-mixer thing too, remember?
>
>NeilYeah, Cuj, I was just thinking... I don't know of ANY
widespread 1"/16 format other than Tascam. Fostex had a
1/2"/16, and IIRC made ONE model of a 1"/16, but not for very
long, and I don't think there were very many produced... ISTR
that one might've had Dolby "C". I know some of their 1/2" 16-
tracks did.

PB, I "THINK" there's still someone in my area that has that
setup - it's not someone I know real well, and in fact, it's a
church (if they still even have their recording setup, and of
course, still have their Tascam rig) but keep me in mind if you
can't find someone as a "for sure", and I can certainly check &
see for you.

Neil


"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>I have a 1 inch Tascam 16trk..
>However it is 30ips only and with DBX and I have no alignment capability.
>If this is the format I could do it for you an a few weks.
>
>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>Back in the late '80's, I was photographer for a regional band that
>>was managed by a friend of mine.
>>
>>The band released one cd and did pretty well with it, and then egos
>>and substances got in the way and the band ended up splitting, owing
>>my friend a ton of money for the cd.
>>
>>However, I remembered that there was a second recording session for a
>>followup album that was never released.
>>
>>My friend just called me.... he just found the original master tapes
>>for that second session! He had completely forgotten about them.
>>
>>We thought we should mix the remaining seven songs and make a "lost
>>sessions" disc, if for no other reason than we'd finally like to hear
>>those songs finished.
>>
>>Do any of you have contacts that would help me get two reels of 1"
>>16-track Ampex transferred to sd2 or aiff or wav? I told my buddy
>>that I'd be happy to take a shot at mixing, but it's hard to stuff
>>those reels into the disc slot on my pc.....
>>
>>It would be useful if the studio were in the Chicago/southern
>>Michigan/Milwaukee area. Or, I could ship the tapes if you can advise
>>me on the safest way to do that.
>>
>>We don't want to spend a lot on this, since there's no guarantee on
>>how many, if any of these we would sell if I manage to produce
>>something decent. It's mainly for old times' sake and because one of
>>those songs was one they used to do live and I always wanted a
>>recording of it.
>>
>>You can post here or email me offlist at pbraun at ctgonline dot org.
>>
>>Thanks.!
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Cool Neil. Glad someone else hears it and I'm not going totally nuts. !
:)

Well, you may in fact be going totally nuts, for all I know; but
your discernment of a difference between compressor "A", and
compressor "B" in those examples is, at least, still intact LOL!

:D

Neil"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Really??

Yes, absolutely - I've never heard anything like this before...
it's very unique... i'm chillin' tonight because I had a
freaking-hectic week, but I'll try & run a mix or two through
it tomorrow & post a couple of clips so you can see what I mean.

NeilOn 22 Dec 2007 14:36:22 +1000, "Neil" <OUIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:

>
>PB, I "THINK" there's still someone in my area that has that
>setup - it's not someone I know real well, and in fact, it's a
>church (if they still even have their recording setup, and of
>course, still have their Tascam rig) but keep me in mind if you
>can't find someone as a "for sure", and I can certainly check &
>see for you.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I have a 1 inch Tascam 16trk..
>>However it is 30ips only and with DBX and I have no alignment capability.
>>If this is the format I could do it for you an a few weks.


Thanks, guys.

I'll see my buddy again on Wednesday -- I'll pull out the session
sheets and see if it lists the speed or NR settings.

I'll post up Wednesday night.

pabSame here (Hectic)..I look forward to your samples..

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Really??
>
>Yes, absolutely - I've never heard anything like this before...
>it's very unique... i'm chillin' tonight because I had a
>freaking-hectic week, but I'll try & run a mix or two through
>it tomorrow & post a couple of clips so you can see what I mean.
>
>NeilIt may not really be too much of a big deal, but one thing I hate about
Cubase is that I can't seem to find a way to save a template that has the
I/O named according to the way the ASIO drivers configure them when working
at 44.1/48k and another one set up solely for 88.2/96k. Maybe I'm missing
something here, but right now I've got the I/O labelled in Cubase so that
when, say, a certain numbered input is for one of my D/A's at 88.2 but
correlates to one of the ADAT returns from my slave DAW at 44.1, I can
recognize it by naming it something like In8/Slave 16 or something like
that.

What I want to be able to do is open up a project at 88.2 and all of the I/O
are named according to what they are interfacing with, with no double names.
Same thing at 44.1. the only way I can see to do this would be to have dual
boot OS drives on both my master and slave machines.

What I would like to be able to do is take Acronis True Image and clone both
my Master and Slave HD's to two separate drives, as safety copies, just in
case, and then use some sort of disk utility to create a new partition on
each of the original drives, then use True Image to clone the disk image to
the new partition on each of the drives. That way I could have an 88.2
partition and a 44.1 partition, each with a template of Cubase set up to
work at whatever sample rates I need to use, and each template will have the
Cubase I/O named correctly.

This also sounds like something I could **** up about as bad as a soup
sandwich.Very cool thad. Sounds like you scored. Jus the vibe alone could be
inspirational......30 year old turntables? ....that still work????. that's a
pretty amazing survival story in itself.

I've got an Ampeg B15N here that looked and smelled sorta' like what I think
you're describing. It was the rankest, foulest POS when it arrived that I
could possibly imagine. It smelled like it had lived it's life in a St Louis
Blues Bar. You could smell the cigarette smoke throughout the whole house.
It took me about a month to clean it up to the point that it didn't stink up
the house.

;o)


;o)

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:476c2144$1@linux...
>
> So, a few months back an acquaintance owed me some money. Not a lot, a few
> hundred dollars for doing a bunch of computer editing for a hip hop
> project.
> He's a good guy, struggling to get a couple of local CT artists known.
> Yes,
> people in the hip hop world struggle, a lot some of the time. Anyway, the
> project was for a very good, edgy, female rapper and I think it came out
> quite nicely. Then, my acquaintance had some personal money problems and
> I was about to write the thing off as a complete loss. Not a huge deal, my
> day job is so off the charts busy I only take work I enjoy doing anyway.
>
>
> So I politely ask him about the money a two or three times and he's
> genuinely
> upset he can't pay me. I don't hear anything for a while and then one day
> he calls to say that he has two Technics 1200s that he'd be willing to
> give
> me instead of cash. As an enthusiastic but not especially skilled DJ it's
> kind of overkill for me, but what the hell, I take them. They're obviously
> in need of some work, but they come with flight cases and have a certain
> amount of cool to me because they've obviously been doing battle in the
> hip
> hop trenches forever. My guy was a professional DJ for a long, long time
> and the cases are covered with stickers from Public Enemy, Noriega, Tupac,
> and probably a dozen others. They've been sitting in my studio, used only
> occasionally, for a while but as I'm probably taking over a night at a
> club
> again I thought I should get them some TLC
>
> So I took them to the best turntable guy I could find in CT. He's a
> slightly
> eccentric fellow but clearly knows what he's doing. There's fancy high end
> tube amps for audiophiles on the shelves, next to Parasound amps and all
> that kind of stuff. So I lug in my battered up flight cases and leave them
> with him. Last night, they were done so I drove up to get them and hear
> the
> diagnosis. I walk in and he says, 'Hey, it's the duct tape guy.' To which
> I reply that no, I did not put duct tape in the inside of my 12s. He goes
> on to describe the shape they tables were in. First, he said that when he
> pulled the platters off there a thick coating of gunk, probably a
> combination
> of spilled beer, cigarette tar, and who knows what. So much of it that he
> was initially worried it might have ruined the motors in the decks.
> Luckily,
> that hadn't happened. The bearings were 'bone dry' and the previously
> mentioned
> duct tape had been used in various places. One headshell was wired
> incorrectly
> and the leads were almost rotted out. All that was fixed and we fired them
> up and they sound great.
>
> But here's the funny part. I thought they were a pair, but my repair guy
> flipped one of them over to show me the serial number. It was made in
> 1979!
> That's only the second year Technics made the mkII, and it's freaking
> almost
> 30 years old. Then my repair guys said, 'These things are built like a
> safe.
> I'm sure this one has another 30 left in it.' Now I just have to learn to
> DJ as well as a guy who owns these should be able to.
>You know I will die if I don't see these pictures.......

animix at animas dot net

pleeeeeeezzzzzeeee!!!!!!!

;o)

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:476a9be4@linux...
> This link is floating around:
> http://forums.audiofanzine.com/index,idtopic,316841,forum,ne ws_euphonix_mc_mix.html
>
> Scroll down through the thread. Looks nice - maybe a bit wider than a
> Mackie Control, but not as deep - price seems decent, unless you have to
> buy Eucon as well ($2k extra). It would fit really well with my setup.
> Might have to relegate the Mackie control
> to an edit suite. ;-)
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:471e5350@linux...
>> I'll take the wow factor of anything Euphonix to Digi controllers - which
>> works out well
>> since Euphonix is the one making it (or maybe making something we think
>> is a controller). :-)
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471e3b40@linux...
>>>
>>> Guys, the Mackie Controller s nver did "It" for me. They just looked and
>>> felt
>>> too clinical and dare I say cheesy. And, these new white/meets black
>>> paint
>>> jobs, just makes them llok like toys. Even expanded, they Lack the Wow!!
>>> factor.
>>>
>>> No, we need the styling of Digi's new C|24 with and better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Interesting, Dedric. To put together a really usable Mackie control rig
>>> is
>>>>$3.5k. That will cover the main unit, two extra fader banks, and the
>>>>rotary
>>>>controller. If Euphonix can do something better for a couple of grand
>>>>more,
>>>>then I'm all for it and I'll hold off a bit before buying anything. That
>>>>said, it MUST work with Live for me to have any interest, that's a deal
>>> breaker
>>>>for me.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>The speculation I'm hearing is either a smaller controller console, or
>>>
>>>>>smaller edit controller, or both.
>>>>>Since Euphonix has the $20k and up markets covered with other products,
>>>>the
>>>>>guess is it will in fact
>>>>>fall in the under $10k market - hopefully $5k or so - better than a
>>>>>Mackie
>>>>
>>>>>Controller, but not as expensive
>>>>>as an MC ($16k or so). I would have to guess it's a mix controller for
>>>>
>>>>>$5-$10k.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm holding out hope until January, but not necessarily holding my
>>>>>breath
>>>>on
>>>>>the price range.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:471e0a82$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted
>>>>the
>>>>>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at a
>>>>>> control
>>>>>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little
>>> extra
>>>>>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects
>>>
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> that might be informative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:476b5530$1@linux...
>
> 1. Turn on the XP firewall. Not great but gets the job done.
> 2. For downloads of software updates and such use firefox. Update it as
> requested.
> 3. If you need to surf/email from your audio machine do it in a VM. IMHO
> I'd suggest Debian Etch or the current Ubuntu, but that's just because I
> know the package manager well. If SuSE is your trip then good on you.
> 4. Don't install any specific anti-virus software, because you won't need
> it.
>
> TCB
>

Huh???....could you please repeat this in Spanish or something that I can
understand?

;o)I love this anti virus app and Acronis. My computer is up and running and
it's very fast compared to what was happening with Norton. I wasn't aware of
how big a hit I was taking until I got rid of that crap. I love the way it
filters and the ease with which you can designate what is spam and what
isn't.

Very cool.


"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:476ac59c@linux...
> hands down .
> http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>
> and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon
> Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of
>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a
>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
>> God that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on
>> the hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new
>> 160G drive and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old
>> one, but I've had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system
>> resources and now I don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be
>> infesting the files I'm recovering that will be loaded on to the new
>> system. I can't even get Ghost to recognize the new drive in order to
>> recover a backup drive image I had which was relatively
>> recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image anyway because it
>> probably is infested with bugs.
>>
>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by
>> PC-cillin which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a
>> very serious way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What
>> do you guys reccommend?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.comguys-
I've forwarded some of your virus comments to Bonnie.

Bonnie asks:
I wonder if any of them can comment on the "ThinkVantage" backup and restore
utility that comes with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads.


"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>I love this anti virus app and Acronis. My computer is up and running and

>it's very fast compared to what was happening with Norton. I wasn't aware
of
>how big a hit I was taking until I got rid of that crap. I love the way
it
>filters and the ease with which you can designate what is spam and what

>isn't.
>
>Very cool.
>
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:476ac59c@linux...
>> hands down .
>> http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>>
>> and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon

>> Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process
of
>>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed
a
>>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank

>>> God that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data
on
>>> the hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new

>>> 160G drive and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old

>>> one, but I've had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system

>>> resources and now I don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might
be
>>> infesting the files I'm recovering that will be loaded on to the new

>>> system. I can't even get Ghost to recognize the new drive in order to

>>> recover a backup drive image I had which was relatively
>>> recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image anyway because
it
>>> probably is infested with bugs.
>>>
>>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by
>>> PC-cillin which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in
a
>>> very serious way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again.
What
>>> do you guys reccommend?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>This would allow native access to all the EDS DSP through VST. Mike could
iLOK the emulator and sell that as a separate app if so desired.
I'd buy in a heartbeat.

AA

"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:476c4171@linux...
> And this would allow a native Paris setup?
>
> -Carl
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:476c3e9f@linux...
>> Man, I tell you what I would REALLY love to see is a EDS DSP emulator
>> instead of ports to VST that could run as a vst.
>> THAT would completely rock dude. We've got the native kahunas to run tons
>> of EDS DSP now, if it could be emulated.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote in message news:476c0805$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>> It is on my to do list, but my focus in on PARIS. I've always loved
>>> this
>>> system, so VST will probably wait until there is nothing more for me to
>>> port,
>>> the Mac versions are out, and the driver is perfect.
>>>
>>> The day will come, though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Hey Mike - Any way to make any of these plugs stand alone vst plugs (for
>>>
>>>>other apps) ?
>>>>
>>>>-Carl
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:476b9625$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Tom!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the next plug will be a mono-band version of this so that one
>>>
>>>>> could
>>>>> use fewer DSP resources if it's just one band than needs to be tamed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts on what would be most useful to you after that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Mike,
>>>>>>Not sure how much I'll use it but I downloaded and donated a
>>>>>>few minutes ago. =20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for you hard work!
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>>>>news:476b2ecf$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it PC only?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gantt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Hi All,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS.
>>>>>> It's
>>>>> =
>>>>>>a
>>>>>> combo
>>>>>> >of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS =
>>>>>>assembler
>>>>>> >for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing
>>> =
>>>>>>for the
>>>>>> >last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars. =20
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down
>>> =
>>>>>>to the
>>>>>> >bottom of the page.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear =
>>>>>>how/if
>>>>>> >these plugins are being used.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my =
>>>>>>girlfriend
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> >ring!!!!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Cheers!
>>>>>> >Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>
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>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for you hard
>>>>>>work!</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>
>in wired. About the music industry and it's various permutations.

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_b yrne?currentPage=1Thanks!

I've re-installed and it now works with mec and if2, but not 442 interface.
Lights flash on start up but the interface is not seen in patch bay but paris
does run without sound! Think this mad be a power issue - well at least Mec
is fine!

Thnaks again, Amos


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>probably that you do not have the driver installed properly. Error 1/1 and

>7/7 mean that it does not see hardware when you initialize the software.
>
>AA
>
>"Amos Parkinson" <amos@lakeside-studios.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:476c27db$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi
>> I'm getting error code 1/1 on a new system, I've never had an issue
>> getting
>> paris up and running on a new rig but this time i'm trying it on a dell

>> c-doc
>> laptop system. Driver went in fine, then software but on re-start and

>> running
>> of paris i get an error:( the card is not visible in XP control panel

>> either...
>>
>> Any suggestion would be a great help!
>> Thanks
>> Amos
>
>I am sure there was a 15 ips verions of my machine too.

Neil, funny, my friends do call me Cuj


"Neil" <OUIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, Cuj, I was just thinking... I don't know of ANY
>widespread 1"/16 format other than Tascam. Fostex had a
>1/2"/16, and IIRC made ONE model of a 1"/16, but not for very
>long, and I don't think there were very many produced... ISTR
>that one might've had Dolby "C". I know some of their 1/2" 16-
>tracks did.
>
>PB, I "THINK" there's still someone in my area that has that
>setup - it's not someone I know real well, and in fact, it's a
>church (if they still even have their recording setup, and of
>course, still have their Tascam rig) but keep me in mind if you
>can't find someone as a "for sure", and I can certainly check &
>see for you.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I have a 1 inch Tascam 16trk..
>>However it is 30ips only and with DBX and I have no alignment capability.
>>If this is the format I could do it for you an a few weks.
>>
>>
>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>Back in the late '80's, I was photographer for a regional band that
>>>was managed by a friend of mine.
>>>
>>>The band released one cd and did pretty well with it, and then egos
>>>and substances got in the way and the band ended up splitting, owing
>>>my friend a ton of money for the cd.
>>>
>>>However, I remembered that there was a second recording session for a
>>>followup album that was never released.
>>>
>>>My friend just called me.... he just found the original master tapes
>>>for that second session! He had completely forgotten about them.
>>>
>>>We thought we should mix the remaining seven songs and make a "lost
>>>sessions" disc, if for no other reason than we'd finally like to hear
>>>those songs finished.
>>>
>>>Do any of you have contacts that would help me get two reels of 1"
>>>16-track Ampex transferred to sd2 or aiff or wav? I told my buddy
>>>that I'd be happy to take a shot at mixing, but it's hard to stuff
>>>those reels into the disc slot on my pc.....
>>>
>>>It would be useful if the studio were in the Chicago/southern
>>>Michigan/Milwaukee area. Or, I could ship the tapes if you can advise
>>>me on the safest way to do that.
>>>
>>>We don't want to spend a lot on this, since there's no guarantee on
>>>how many, if any of these we would sell if I manage to produce
>>>something decent. It's mainly for old times' sake and because one of
>>>those songs was one they used to do live and I always wanted a
>>>recording of it.
>>>
>>>You can post here or email me offlist at pbraun at ctgonline dot org.
>>>
>>>Thanks.!
>>
>I'll be in the UK next week.. so just eamil me after if I can help

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 22 Dec 2007 14:36:22 +1000, "Neil" <OUIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>PB, I "THINK" there's still someone in my area that has that
>>setup - it's not someone I know real well, and in fact, it's a
>>church (if they still even have their recording setup, and of
>>course, still have their Tascam rig) but keep me in mind if you
>>can't find someone as a "for sure", and I can certainly check &
>>see for you.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I have a 1 inch Tascam 16trk..
>>>However it is 30ips only and with DBX and I have no alignment capability.
>>>If this is the format I could do it for you an a few weks.
>
>
>Thanks, guys.
>
>I'll see my buddy again on Wednesday -- I'll pull out the session
>sheets and see if it lists the speed or NR settings.
>
>I'll post up Wednesday night.
>
>pabYes, donate to Mike!

I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.

No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist ;o)
but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us. We owe
it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.

He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware I'd
bet there would be a lot more of it about.

And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing, and
surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds up.

But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris Plugs
all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!

Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's really
pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.


"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>
>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been =
>>throwing
>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the =
>>scratch anything=20
>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the =
>>five guys
>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
=
>>is crazy.
>>
>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>All done...
>>T.
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>plugs donate=20
>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten =
>>fold. =20
>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch =
>>anything=20
>></FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>could use some=20
>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>comp. =20
>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be =
>>rewarded. =20
>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>and=20
>>you?<BR><A=20
>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>....or used a mic with lower proximy effect:D...

On 22 Dec 2007 12:32:25 +1000, "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:

>
>Or, you could've just backed the mic off a bit.
>
>LOL!
>
>(just giving you a hard time ) :D
>
>NeilHi,
Can you share the settings of the multiband you used for this song ?
Nice !
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The first one sounds really good as Neil said, but you kinda need something
>good obviously.
>
>The second one however keeps giving me that feeling that I'm excited about
>the music. ;o) I go back to the first and go "Nah, that's just as good"
and
>then to the second and go &q
Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92409 is a reply to message #92405] Mon, 05 November 2007 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ly
>
>>stoked about this.
>>
>>Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of
>the
>>comps.
>>
>>Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal
eds
>
>>comp
>>
>>
>>Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband
>
>>eds comp
>>
>>woo hoo!,
>>-Carl
>>
>>
>okay put your wad...errmoney back in your pants mister!

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:42:39 -0700, "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:

>You know I will die if I don't see these pictures.......
>
>animix at animas dot net
>
>pleeeeeeezzzzzeeee!!!!!!!
>
>;o)
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:476a9be4@linux...
>> This link is floating around:
>> http://forums.audiofanzine.com/index,idtopic,316841,forum,ne ws_euphonix_mc_mix.html
>>
>> Scroll down through the thread. Looks nice - maybe a bit wider than a
>> Mackie Control, but not as deep - price seems decent, unless you have to
>> buy Eucon as well ($2k extra). It would fit really well with my setup.
>> Might have to relegate the Mackie control
>> to an edit suite. ;-)
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:471e5350@linux...
>>> I'll take the wow factor of anything Euphonix to Digi controllers - which
>>> works out well
>>> since Euphonix is the one making it (or maybe making something we think
>>> is a controller). :-)
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471e3b40@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Guys, the Mackie Controller s nver did "It" for me. They just looked and
>>>> felt
>>>> too clinical and dare I say cheesy. And, these new white/meets black
>>>> paint
>>>> jobs, just makes them llok like toys. Even expanded, they Lack the Wow!!
>>>> factor.
>>>>
>>>> No, we need the styling of Digi's new C|24 with and better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting, Dedric. To put together a really usable Mackie control rig
>>>> is
>>>>>$3.5k. That will cover the main unit, two extra fader banks, and the
>>>>>rotary
>>>>>controller. If Euphonix can do something better for a couple of grand
>>>>>more,
>>>>>then I'm all for it and I'll hold off a bit before buying anything. That
>>>>>said, it MUST work with Live for me to have any interest, that's a deal
>>>> breaker
>>>>>for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>The speculation I'm hearing is either a smaller controller console, or
>>>>
>>>>>>smaller edit controller, or both.
>>>>>>Since Euphonix has the $20k and up markets covered with other products,
>>>>>the
>>>>>>guess is it will in fact
>>>>>>fall in the under $10k market - hopefully $5k or so - better than a
>>>>>>Mackie
>>>>>
>>>>>>Controller, but not as expensive
>>>>>>as an MC ($16k or so). I would have to guess it's a mix controller for
>>>>>
>>>>>>$5-$10k.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm holding out hope until January, but not necessarily holding my
>>>>>>breath
>>>>>on
>>>>>>the price range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:471e0a82$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted
>>>>>the
>>>>>>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at a
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little
>>>> extra
>>>>>>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects
>>>>
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> that might be informative.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Keep in mind that if it was done "interpreter" style it would chew up a LOT
of resources per plug. Like 20 X what the plug should use.

Though he could always look at the compiling option... which would be far
more processor efficient. I actually suspect that even an interpreter based
version wouldn't be too greedy. I imagine the curves and quirks of the Paris
EDS commands could be emulated more quickly than some of the analog emulations.

Cheers,
Kim.


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>This would allow native access to all the EDS DSP through VST. Mike could

>iLOK the emulator and sell that as a separate app if so desired.
>I'd buy in a heartbeat.
>
>AA
>
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>news:476c4171@linux...
>> And this would allow a native Paris setup?
>>
>> -Carl
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:476c3e9f@linux...
>>> Man, I tell you what I would REALLY love to see is a EDS DSP emulator

>>> instead of ports to VST that could run as a vst.
>>> THAT would completely rock dude. We've got the native kahunas to run
tons
>>> of EDS DSP now, if it could be emulated.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote in message news:476c0805$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Carl,
>>>>
>>>> It is on my to do list, but my focus in on PARIS. I've always loved

>>>> this
>>>> system, so VST will probably wait until there is nothing more for me
to
>>>> port,
>>>> the Mac versions are out, and the driver is perfect.
>>>>
>>>> The day will come, though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Hey Mike - Any way to make any of these plugs stand alone vst plugs
(for
>>>>
>>>>>other apps) ?
>>>>>
>>>>>-Carl
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:476b9625$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Tom!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the next plug will be a mono-band version of this so that
one
>>>>
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> use fewer DSP resources if it's just one band than needs to be tamed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts on what would be most useful to you after that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Mike,
>>>>>>>Not sure how much I'll use it but I downloaded and donated a
>>>>>>>few minutes ago. =20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for you hard work!
>>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>>>>>news:476b2ecf$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it PC only?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gantt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Hi All,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS.

>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>> combo
>>>>>>> >of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS
=
>>>>>>>assembler
>>>>>>> >for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing
>>>> =
>>>>>>>for the
>>>>>>> >last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars. =20
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll
down
>>>> =
>>>>>>>to the
>>>>>>> >bottom of the page.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear
=
>>>>>>>how/if
>>>>>>> >these plugins are being used.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my =
>>>>>>>girlfriend
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> >ring!!!!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Cheers!
>>>>>>> >Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Mike,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure how much I'll use it but
I =
>>>>>>>downloaded and=20
>>>>>>>donated a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>few minutes ago. </FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for you hard
>>>>>>>work!</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>>>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>>>> <DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
>>>>>>> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>>
=
>>>>>>>wrote in=20
>>>>>>> message <A=20
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>href=3D"news:476b2ecf$1@linux">news:476b2ecf$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
>>>>>>> Mike,<BR><BR>Is it PC only?<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>gantt<BR><BR>"Mike
>>>> =
>>>>>>>Audet"=20
>>>>>>> <mike@..> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi All,<BR>><BR>>I've just =
>>>>>>>posted=20
>>>>>>> my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's =
>>>>>>>a<BR>combo<BR>>of=20
>>>>>>> the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS=20
>>>>>>> assembler<BR>>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish =
>>>>>>>I'd had=20
>>>>>>> this thing for the<BR>>last 10 years when dealing with boomy =
>>>>>>>acoustic=20
>>>>>>> guitars. <BR>><BR>>As always, you can download it at <A=20
>>>>>>> href=3D"http://www.ensoniq.ca">www.ensoniq.ca</A>. Just scroll
=
>>>>>>>down to=20
>>>>>>> the<BR>>bottom of the page.<BR>><BR>>Please let me know what =
>>>>>>>you=20
>>>>>>> think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if<BR>>these plugins =
>>>>>>>are=20
>>>>>>> being used.<BR>><BR>>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm =
>>>>>>>broke, and I=20
>>>>>>> need to get my=20
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>girlfriend<BR>a<BR>>ring!!!!<BR>><BR>>Cheers!<BR >>Mike<BR></B=
>>>>>>>LOCKQUOTE>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>>>> =
>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Hey Paul

I just posted this over at the Womb

There are a number of tape heads still hang there and should be able to
provide several leads

Don


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:ecrom3dd1qvpivktsj0t5unab3gnfck7o5@4ax.com...
> Back in the late '80's, I was photographer for a regional band that
> was managed by a friend of mine.
>
> The band released one cd and did pretty well with it, and then egos
> and substances got in the way and the band ended up splitting, owing
> my friend a ton of money for the cd.
>
> However, I remembered that there was a second recording session for a
> followup album that was never released.
>
> My friend just called me.... he just found the original master tapes
> for that second session! He had completely forgotten about them.
>
> We thought we should mix the remaining seven songs and make a "lost
> sessions" disc, if for no other reason than we'd finally like to hear
> those songs finished.
>
> Do any of you have contacts that would help me get two reels of 1"
> 16-track Ampex transferred to sd2 or aiff or wav? I told my buddy
> that I'd be happy to take a shot at mixing, but it's hard to stuff
> those reels into the disc slot on my pc.....
>
> It would be useful if the studio were in the Chicago/southern
> Michigan/Milwaukee area. Or, I could ship the tapes if you can advise
> me on the safest way to do that.
>
> We don't want to spend a lot on this, since there's no guarantee on
> how many, if any of these we would sell if I manage to produce
> something decent. It's mainly for old times' sake and because one of
> those songs was one they used to do live and I always wanted a
> recording of it.
>
> You can post here or email me offlist at pbraun at ctgonline dot org.
>
> Thanks.!I want one! Hey Chuck, need any help shipping the Mac??

DC:_)

Actually, I tried both those things, but my acoustic guitar has rosewood
back and sides, and it is just boomy as hell.

What I ended up doing was stuffing face cloths inside it to dampen it, like
you would do with a bass drum. :)




erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>...or used a mic with lower proximy effect:D...
>
>On 22 Dec 2007 12:32:25 +1000, "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Or, you could've just backed the mic off a bit.
>>
>>LOL!
>>
>>(just giving you a hard time ) :D
>>
>>NeilHi Kim,

Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe you
just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.

I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it a day
a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started, so
I'm still making progress.

I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.


I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!



"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yes, donate to Mike!
>
>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>
>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist ;o)
>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us. We
owe
>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>
>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
I'd
>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>
>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing, and
>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
up.
>
>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris Plugs
>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>
>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's really
>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>
>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been =
>>>throwing
>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
=
>>>scratch anything=20
>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the =
>>>five guys
>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>=
>>>is crazy.
>>>
>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>All done...
>>>T.
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
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>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
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>>>plugs donate=20
>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten =
>>>fold. =20
>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
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>>>anything=20
>>></FONT></DIV>
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>>>could use some=20
>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
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>>>comp. =20
>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be =
>>>rewarded. =20
>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
=
>>>and=20
>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Thanks Lamont! It means a lot to me know that the work is making a difference
for people.

Cheers!

Mike


"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Mike I willbe donating first quarter 08. Thank you thank you thank you for
>all the work you've done with these nice Paris Plugins.
>
>I love working in Paris and with these new plugins, I'll continue to use
>Paris for my $$ jobs..
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's a
>combo
>>of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
>>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for
the
>>last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>>
>>As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down to
the
>>bottom of the page.
>>
>>Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
>>these plugins are being used.
>>
>>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend
>a
>>ring!!!!
>>
>>Cheers!
>>Mike
>Hi Dimitrios,

Are there any specific circumstances when the DC offset becomes apparent?
I'd like to try to squish that bug as soon as I get home. I'm visiting
family for the holidays, but I'll be home late in the week.

Thanks for the feedback!

Happy holidays!

Mike

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hey Mike !!
>First I donate and then I download !
>This is the least I can do for you !!!
>I really love what you are doing.
>Please note that your crossover plugin outputs some DC (high level !) sometimes
>when first loaded and then you have to close and reload , but normally this
>DC is there.
>Anywhay your reverb is great !!
>Any thoughts on getting rid of some resonances it produces ?
>\your crossover is used a lot on my productions and your compressor too
!
>Only this DC thing if you please take a look at it.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's a
>combo
>>of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
>>for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for
the
>>last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>>
>>As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down to
the
>>bottom of the page.
>>
>>Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
>>these plugins are being used.
>>
>>Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend
>a
>>ring!!!!
>>
>>Cheers!
>>Mike
>HI Steve,
Haven't used the Lenovo stuff so haven't seen the backup/restore
software they use. It is more than likely a a OEM branded for Lenovo
version of one of the main backup programs. Hopefully not Norton.. :)
I remember when Dell and Gateway wee installing Nortons Go Back on
machines. Ouch.



Chris


steve the artguy wrote:
> guys-
> I've forwarded some of your virus comments to Bonnie.
>
> Bonnie asks:
> I wonder if any of them can comment on the "ThinkVantage" backup and restore
> utility that comes with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads.
>
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>> I love this anti virus app and Acronis. My computer is up and running and
>>
>
>
>> it's very fast compared to what was happening with Norton. I wasn't aware
>>
> of
>
>> how big a hit I was taking until I got rid of that crap. I love the way
>>
> it
>
>> filters and the ease with which you can designate what is spam and what
>>
>
>
>> isn't.
>>
>> Very cool.
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:476ac59c@linux...
>>
>>> hands down .
>>> http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>>>
>>> and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon
>>>
>
>
>>> Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process
>>>>
> of
>
>>>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed
>>>>
> a
>
>>>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
>>>>
>
>
>>>> God that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data
>>>>
> on
>
>>>> the hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new
>>>>
>
>
>>>> 160G drive and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old
>>>>
>
>
>>>> one, but I've had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system
>>>>
>
>
>>>> resources and now I don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might
>>>>
> be
>
>>>> infesting the files I'm recovering that will be loaded on to the new
>>>>
>
>
>>>> system. I can't even get Ghost to recognize the new drive in order to
>>>>
>
>
>>>> recover a backup drive image I had which was relatively
>>>> recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image anyway because
>>>>
> it
>
>>>> probably is infested with bugs.
>>>>
>>>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by
>>>> PC-cillin which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in
>>>>
> a
>
>>>> very serious way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again.
>>>>
> What
>
>>>> do you guys reccommend?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Yup, I think I did score. I've been messing around with Traktor Scratch since
I got them back and it's a really cool rig. Now I have to practice a lot,
but it should be fun practice. I've been pawing through my vinyl collection,
which has some gems I had forgotten, and then going through the digital files
as well.

The funny thing is that I wrote the documentation for Traktor v. 2 but the
software is a little confusing. Who knew?

TCB


"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>Very cool thad. Sounds like you scored. Jus the vibe alone could be
>inspirational......30 year old turntables? ....that still work????. that's
a
>pretty amazing survival story in itself.
>
>I've got an Ampeg B15N here that looked and smelled sorta' like what I think

>you're describing. It was the rankest, foulest POS when it arrived that
I
>could possibly imagine. It smelled like it had lived it's life in a St Louis

>Blues Bar. You could smell the cigarette smoke throughout the whole house.

>It took me about a month to clean it up to the point that it didn't stink
up
>the house.
>
>;o)
>
>
>;o)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:476c2144$1@linux...
>>
>> So, a few months back an acquaintance owed me some money. Not a lot, a
few
>> hundred dollars for doing a bunch of computer editing for a hip hop
>> project.
>> He's a good guy, struggling to get a couple of local CT artists known.

>> Yes,
>> people in the hip hop world struggle, a lot some of the time. Anyway,
the
>> project was for a very good, edgy, female rapper and I think it came out
>> quite nicely. Then, my acquaintance had some personal money problems and
>> I was about to write the thing off as a complete loss. Not a huge deal,
my
>> day job is so off the charts busy I only take work I enjoy doing anyway.
>>
>>
>> So I politely ask him about the money a two or three times and he's
>> genuinely
>> upset he can't pay me. I don't hear anything for a while and then one
day
>> he calls to say that he has two Technics 1200s that he'd be willing to

>> give
>> me instead of cash. As an enthusiastic but not especially skilled DJ it's
>> kind of overkill for me, but what the hell, I take them. They're obviously
>> in need of some work, but they come with flight cases and have a certain
>> amount of cool to me because they've obviously been doing battle in the

>> hip
>> hop trenches forever. My guy was a professional DJ for a long, long time
>> and the cases are covered with stickers from Public Enemy, Noriega, Tupac,
>> and probably a dozen others. They've been sitting in my studio, used only
>> occasionally, for a while but as I'm probably taking over a night at a

>> club
>> again I thought I should get them some TLC
>>
>> So I took them to the best turntable guy I could find in CT. He's a
>> slightly
>> eccentric fellow but clearly knows what he's doing. There's fancy high
end
>> tube amps for audiophiles on the shelves, next to Parasound amps and all
>> that kind of stuff. So I lug in my battered up flight cases and leave
them
>> with him. Last night, they were done so I drove up to get them and hear

>> the
>> diagnosis. I walk in and he says, 'Hey, it's the duct tape guy.' To which
>> I reply that no, I did not put duct tape in the inside of my 12s. He goes
>> on to describe the shape they tables were in. First, he said that when
he
>> pulled the platters off there a thick coating of gunk, probably a
>> combination
>> of spilled beer, cigarette tar, and who knows what. So much of it that
he
>> was initially worried it might have ruined the motors in the decks.
>> Luckily,
>> that hadn't happened. The bearings were 'bone dry' and the previously

>> mentioned
>> duct tape had been used in various places. One headshell was wired
>> incorrectly
>> and the leads were almost rotted out. All that was fixed and we fired
them
>> up and they sound great.
>>
>> But here's the funny part. I thought they were a pair, but my repair guy
>> flipped one of them over to show me the serial number. It was made in

>> 1979!
>> That's only the second year Technics made the mkII, and it's freaking

>> almost
>> 30 years old. Then my repair guys said, 'These things are built like a

>> safe.
>> I'm sure this one has another 30 left in it.' Now I just have to learn
to
>> DJ as well as a guy who owns these should be able to.
>>
>
>Dedric sent me the pics. Looks like really cool stuff. I might be a buyer
depending on my bonus this January.

TCB

"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>You know I will die if I don't see these pictures.......
>
>animix at animas dot net
>
>pleeeeeeezzzzzeeee!!!!!!!
>
>;o)
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:476a9be4@linux...
>> This link is floating around:
>> http://forums.audiofanzine.com/index,idtopic,316841,forum,ne ws_euphonix_mc_mix.html
>>
>> Scroll down through the thread. Looks nice - maybe a bit wider than a

>> Mackie Control, but not as deep - price seems decent, unless you have
to
>> buy Eucon as well ($2k extra). It would fit really well with my setup.

>> Might have to relegate the Mackie control
>> to an edit suite. ;-)
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:471e5350@linux...
>>> I'll take the wow factor of anything Euphonix to Digi controllers - which

>>> works out well
>>> since Euphonix is the one making it (or maybe making something we think

>>> is a controller). :-)
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:471e3b40@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Guys, the Mackie Controller s nver did "It" for me. They just looked
and
>>>> felt
>>>> too clinical and dare I say cheesy. And, these new white/meets black

>>>> paint
>>>> jobs, just makes them llok like toys. Even expanded, they Lack the Wow!!
>>>> factor.
>>>>
>>>> No, we need the styling of Digi's new C|24 with and better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting, Dedric. To put together a really usable Mackie control
rig
>>>> is
>>>>>$3.5k. That will cover the main unit, two extra fader banks, and the

>>>>>rotary
>>>>>controller. If Euphonix can do something better for a couple of grand

>>>>>more,
>>>>>then I'm all for it and I'll hold off a bit before buying anything.
That
>>>>>said, it MUST work with Live for me to have any interest, that's a deal
>>>> breaker
>>>>>for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>The speculation I'm hearing is either a smaller controller console,
or
>>>>
>>>>>>smaller edit controller, or both.
>>>>>>Since Euphonix has the $20k and up markets covered with other products,
>>>>>the
>>>>>>guess is it will in fact
>>>>>>fall in the under $10k market - hopefully $5k or so - better than a

>>>>>>Mackie
>>>>>
>>>>>>Controller, but not as expensive
>>>>>>as an MC ($16k or so). I would have to guess it's a mix controller
for
>>>>>
>>>>>>$5-$10k.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm holding out hope until January, but not necessarily holding my

>>>>>>breath
>>>>>on
>>>>>>the price range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:471e0a82$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted
>>>>>the
>>>>>>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at
a
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little
>>>> extra
>>>>>>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects
>>>>
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> that might be informative.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Actually, you can do something with it on your guitar. Often acoustic
guitars isn't subdued enough inside the body in some
frequencies,(Often around F to G on the the thick E-string) so if you
can find out where the problem is, a piece of wood glued at the right
place inside the body can make a miracle with the tone.

Erling

On 23 Dec 2007 01:11:02 +1000, "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:

>
>:_)
>
>Actually, I tried both those things, but my acoustic guitar has rosewood
>back and sides, and it is just boomy as hell.
>
>What I ended up doing was stuffing face cloths inside it to dampen it, like
>you would do with a bass drum. :)
>
>
>
>
>erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>...or used a mic with lower proximy effect:D...
>>
>>On 22 Dec 2007 12:32:25 +1000, "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Or, you could've just backed the mic off a bit.
>>>
>>>LOL!
>>>
>>>(just giving you a hard time ) :D
>>>
>>>NeilSteve -

Thanks for the reference. That is an informative article, and it made
me think about how small service providers in this industry will
survive. In particular, the situation Gantt posted about recently,
where his small, professional studio business is dying. I hadn't
really thought of this when he posted, but Byrne's article gave me the
following idea.

Using Gantt's situation - a small studio with diminishing prospects -
I think Byrne's analysis of the 6 marketing models can apply. Here,
the studio owner/operator has to view his product in the context of
the bigger industry. As a pay-for-a-job service provider, his
livelihood and growth are completely dependent on the musicians who
need to have a recording made.

On the other hand, looking at the real goals of a musician is where
the opportunity awaits. The musician want to record his/her/their
music, get a cd made, get some sales, get some opportunities to
perform, get more sales, get a video made, get more sales, get more
sales, and get more sales. So, what to do?

Provide as many of the services to help the artist get more sales. If
the artist is working to record tunes and needs help, have a network
of musicians who can record parts. When the recordings are done, get
the artwork together and have cd pressed. Have a collection of
marketing solutions (cd baby, my space , etc.). Have relationships
with booking agents to line up gigs. Have a partnership with a video
services. In short, don't just book studio time, but rather, an entire
marketing strategy.

This would take a lot of work to get going if one is just starting
from scratch, but a seasoned veteran like Gantt has contacts and
relationships that probably make this a lot easier at this stage.
Moreover, if he really doesn't want to get involved with an aspect of
the "machine", say video production, just being able to recommend
someone to handle that part of the process keeps the process flowing.

I look in the back of trade mags like Mix, Tape Op, etc., and see lots
of adds for recording, mastering and pressing studios offering their
individual services, but I have never seen an add for a service
offering the musician the total marketing package. A friend has tried
to create something like this, called Vindisoft, but I think he has
has some problems along the way, probably due to the attempt to build
the entire machine from the ground up. Again, I think tempered
expansion is a more logical approach, instead of just flipping a
switch and trying to have the total package operating on day one.

Well enough of my ramblings. Discuss amongst yourselves!

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland


On 22 Dec 2007 19:35:43 +1000, "steve the artguy"
<artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:

>
>in wired. About the music industry and it's various permutations.
>
> http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_b yrne?currentPage=1Deej, you know you can re-name you i/o's, right? What if you
just created a 44.1k template & named all the i/o's according
to their sources & destinations, save it, and THEN change the
samplerate to 88.2k, refresh your i/o's (which will cause half
of your lightpipe i/o's to disappear) then rename as necessary,
& save that as your 88.2k template... no need for none o' 'dat
dual-boot/dual-partition/dual-sized-headache garbage.

Neil



"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>It may not really be too much of a big deal, but one thing I hate about

>Cubase is that I can't seem to find a way to save a template that has the

>I/O named according to the way the ASIO drivers configure them when working

>at 44.1/48k and another one set up solely for 88.2/96k. Maybe I'm missing

>something here, but right now I've got the I/O labelled in Cubase so that

>when, say, a certain numbered input is for one of my D/A's at 88.2 but
>correlates to one of the ADAT returns from my slave DAW at 44.1, I can
>recognize it by naming it something like In8/Slave 16 or something like

>that.
>
>What I want to be able to do is open up a project at 88.2 and all of the
I/O
>are named according to what they are interfacing with, with no double names.

>Same thing at 44.1. the only way I can see to do this would be to have dual

>boot OS drives on both my master and slave machines.
>
>What I would like to be able to do is take Acronis True Image and clone
both
>my Master and Slave HD's to two separate drives, as safety copies, just
in
>case, and then use some sort of disk utility to create a new partition on

>each of the original drives, then use True Image to clone the disk image
to
>the new partition on each of the drives. That way I could have an 88.2
>partition and a 44.1 partition, each with a template of Cubase set up to

>work at whatever sample rates I need to use, and each template will have
the
>Cubase I/O named correctly.
>
>This also sounds like something I could **** up about as bad as a soup
>sandwich.
>
>On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:59:17 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:

>Hey Paul
>
>I just posted this over at the Womb
>
>There are a number of tape heads still hang there and should be able to
>provide several leads
>
>Don

Thanks!

pabI'd hate to see someone try that & have it NOT work out well.
That's a job for an experienced luthier, methinks - even if
it's a simple process; just knowing exactly WHERE to place it
on a particular guitar would be the key.

A less-elegant, but just as practical, solution would be to
tape a folded-up paper towel or tissue paper to the guitar front
or back when recording... use that blue 3M painters' tape that
you can get at an home improvement store, and as long as you
don't leave it stuck on the guitar for a long period of time
(and I mean days at a time) it peels off with no residue at
all. Just play around & find the right spot on the guitar that
a small square of folded paper towel/tissue will dampen the
boominiess & you're there!

BTW, regarding that blue tape - it comes in QUITE handy around
the studio... coupled with said small section of folded paper
towel, it works great on drum heads if you need to dampen
anything, or even if a drummer has a cymbal that rings too
long for a particular song or feel, or what have you. If you're
triggering drum samples & you have a drum that's double-
triggering due to too much movement of the head - same thing;
and I've even used it on a bass players bass that had the jack
contacts too loose, and the cord would fall out from time to
time (he didn't want to have me open it up & simply squeeze the
contacts closer together - go figure), so I used a couple of
strips of that blue tape wrapped around the barrel of the cable
& taped to the body... again, peels right off when you're done,
without any residue left behind on the finish.

Every studio should have a roll! lol

Neil



erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>Actually, you can do something with it on your guitar. Often acoustic
>guitars isn't subdued enough inside the body in some
>frequencies,(Often around F to G on the the thick E-string) so if you
>can find out where the problem is, a piece of wood glued at the right
>place inside the body can make a miracle with the tone.
>
>Erling
>
>On 23 Dec 2007 01:11:02 +1000, "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>>
>>:_)
>>
>>Actually, I tried both those things, but my acoustic guitar has rosewood
>>back and sides, and it is just boomy as hell.
>>
>>What I ended up doing was stuffing face cloths inside it to dampen it,
like
>>you would do with a bass drum. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>>...or used a mic with lower proximy effect:D...
>>>
>>>On 22 Dec 2007 12:32:25 +1000, "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Or, you could've just backed the mic off a bit.
>>>>
>>>>LOL!
>>>>
>>>>(just giving you a hard time ) :D
>>>>
>>>>NeilDedric sent the pics and I'm not really that impressed. I thought they were
going after the the personal studio owner..Yeah I know..That's a very ambiguous
label(Perosnal Studio)..Bedroom studio all the way to a full blow studio
at home..

But, after loking at those pics, it seems that they are still after the Post
market. It does seems that you wil be able to add 8 or 4 fader pacs at
a time. But, a lot my busines comes from

-1 The Hyped (big) fader console look
-2 Skill..

However, I'll await the official pics from Euphonix to make a final decision..

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted the
>link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at a control
>surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little extra
>dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects anything
>that might be informative.
>
>TCBMike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
Rod
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Kim,
>
>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
you
>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>
>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it a
day
>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started, so
>I'm still making progress.
>
>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>
>
>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>
>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>
>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist ;o)
>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us. We
>owe
>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>
>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>I'd
>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>
>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
and
>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>up.
>>
>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris Plugs
>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>
>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
really
>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>
>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been =
>>>>throwing
>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
>=
>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
=
>>>>five guys
>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>>=
>>>>is crazy.
>>>>
>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>All done...
>>>>T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten
=
>>>>fold. =20
>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>=
>>>>anything=20
>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>could use some=20
>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>comp. =20
>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be =
>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>=
>>>>and=20
>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
>Rod
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kim,
>>
>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
>you
>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>
>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it a
>day
>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started, so
>>I'm still making progress.
>>
>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>>
>>
>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>
>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>>
>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist ;o)
>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us. We
>>owe
>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>
>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>>I'd
>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>
>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
>and
>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>>up.
>>>
>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris Plugs
>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>
>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
>really
>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>
>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been =
>>>>>throwing
>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
>>=
>>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
>=
>>>>>five guys
>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>>>=
>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>>All done...
>>>>>T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth
Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92410 is a reply to message #92409] Mon, 05 November 2007 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it ten
>=
>>>>>fold. =20
>>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>>=
>>>>>anything=20
>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>>could use some=20
>>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>>comp. =20
>>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be
=
>>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>>=
>>>>>and=20
>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi Rod,

I took two two intro CS courses at the University of Toronto. They were
both in Java, but gave me a good foundation in object oriented code and c
style syntax. I then took a third course at York University, and that one
was also in Java. Last summer, I spent two or 3 evenings with a friend of
mine who helped me make the leap to C++ by going over the PARIS code with
me and explaining the differences between Java and C++.

The course at York was actually the first class in a computer science degree
that I could continue at at any time. I may finish it eventually. Right
now, I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money.

I bought my girlfriend a ring this morning. A special thanks goes out to
everyone who sent me some cash - my bank account is $2200 lighter this afternoon!

Cheers!

Mike


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
>Rod
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kim,
>>
>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
>you
>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>
>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it a
>day
>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started, so
>>I'm still making progress.
>>
>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>>
>>
>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>
>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>>
>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist ;o)
>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us. We
>>owe
>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>
>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>>I'd
>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>
>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
>and
>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>>up.
>>>
>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris Plugs
>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>
>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
>really
>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>
>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been =
>>>>>throwing
>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
>>=
>>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
>=
>>>>>five guys
>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>>>=
>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>>All done...
>>>>>T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten
>=
>>>>>fold. =20
>>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>>=
>>>>>anything=20
>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>>could use some=20
>>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>>comp. =20
>>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be
=
>>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>>=
>>>>>and=20
>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>If you need a "big" console to impress clients, that's one thing and there
are a lot of consoles that fit that bill.

But if you need an ergonomic, fast workflow, Euphonix has been doing that
pretty well so far. The new console with the touch screen (which is likely
multimode) would allow you to assign key commands, macros, etc to make
editing, navigating, plugins, etc much much faster. Yes, that may be more
important for post, but I've found key commands and macros more of a
workflow enhancement than a lot of faders.

That's what I'm after. I already have a desk system design in mind to
accomodate this, and fit perfectly for composing.

Also note, there seem to be LCD displays above every fader. Chain the two
units for 12 faders - probably similar to MCU in that you can move banks,
maybe even more easily - we'll have to wait and see.

I don't think their point is to compete with a Harrison, SSL, or Neve
console (the Sys5 is there for that market), but for smaller studios, edit
suites, post, composing, etc, it's perfect. Also note that the market is
changing - many people are starting to question the "big is better" mindset
when you don't end up with a better product just because you have more
faders in front of you that you are either going to automate, or hire an
assistant or two to run manually with you.

I'm not the only one seeing a change in the market - I think Euphonix is
filling a gap that will soon begin to define the fringes as well.

Just my .02,
Dedric

On 12/22/07 12:35 PM, in article 476d5905$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Dedric sent the pics and I'm not really that impressed. I thought they were
> going after the the personal studio owner..Yeah I know..That's a very
> ambiguous
> label(Perosnal Studio)..Bedroom studio all the way to a full blow studio
> at home..
>
> But, after loking at those pics, it seems that they are still after the Post
> market. It does seems that you wil be able to add 8 or 4 fader pacs at
> a time. But, a lot my busines comes from
>
> -1 The Hyped (big) fader console look
> -2 Skill..
>
> However, I'll await the official pics from Euphonix to make a final decision..
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted the
>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at a control
>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little extra
>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects anything
>> that might be informative.
>>
>> TCB
>I've been noticing that newer laptops that have a firewire port
are using these tiny little 4-pin ports... there are adaptor
cables for the 6-pin to 4-pin, but is it really the same
protocol? IOW, if you have an audio interface that has the
6-pin, is it simply that you just use one of these adaptor
cables to get it into the 4-pin, smaller ports on a newer
laptop?

NeilThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Neil,

I'm dealing with a MADI system here. On the Multiface, yes, half the =
ADAT I/O disappears, but this is also the case with a MADI system =
because it's all ADAT I/O. When 8 x I/O on my Multiface plus the 64 I/O =
on the MADI system (32 of which are connected to a pair of AD/DA =
converters) are reconfigured between the two sample rates, there is a =
hell of a bunch of confusion with the naming of ports. On a MADI system. =
my ADAT 1-32 is connected to a pair of ADI 8-DS AD/DA converters. In =
44.1K mode, I/O #'s 9-16 and 25-32 are not even being used because they =
are connected to the 8 Aux ports of the ADI 8-DS units which are not =
running at double speed, but in 88.2 mode, they are being used. My =
system configures itself as follows:

MF A 1 - 8 =3D AD/DA I/O 1-8

MF SPDIF L & R input =3Dreturn from HDSP 9652, output to DAC-1

MF ADAT 1-4 inputs =3D return 1-4 from HDSP 9652 slave at 44.1 and 88.2

MF ADAT 5-8 inputs =3D return 5-8 from HDSP 9652 slave at 44.1 only

MADI 1-8 =3D AD/DA I/O 9-16 at both 44.1 and 88.2

MADI 9-16=3Dopen at 44.1 but correlate to analog 1/0 17-24 at 88.2

MADI 17-24 =3D AD/DA 17-24 at 44.1 but correlate to HDSP 9652 ADAT slave =
returns 5-8 at 88.2

MADI 25-32 =3D open at 44.1 but correlate to HDSP 9652 ADAT slave =
returns 9-16 at 88.2

MADI 33-40=3DAD/DA 17-24 at 44.1

MADI 41-64=3Dreturns from HDSP 9652 ADAT slave at 44.1

This creates a less than elegant scenario for the naming of the ports =
and even more suckage when assigning them and reassigning them from =
project to project.........and even more suckage when assigning names of =
ports to the analog I/O for external hardware and the saving of same as =
favorites.=20

If I had two separate drive images, things would be a lot less cluttered =
and much easier to configure/reconfigure and it would only take as much =
time as it takes to reboot the computer.

Much of this idiocy is due to Cubase not allowing the saving of =
templates for port configurations......or if it does I can't find where =
it allows this.

The Neve box there yet?

;o)







"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476d4189$1@linux...
>=20
> Deej, you know you can re-name you i/o's, right? What if you
> just created a 44.1k template & named all the i/o's according
> to their sources & destinations, save it, and THEN change the
> samplerate to 88.2k, refresh your i/o's (which will cause half
> of your lightpipe i/o's to disappear) then rename as necessary,
> & save that as your 88.2k template... no need for none o' 'dat
> dual-boot/dual-partition/dual-sized-headache garbage.
>=20
> Neil
>=20
>=20
>=20
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>It may not really be too much of a big deal, but one thing I hate =
about
>=20
>>Cubase is that I can't seem to find a way to save a template that has =
the
>=20
>>I/O named according to the way the ASIO drivers configure them when =
working
>=20
>>at 44.1/48k and another one set up solely for 88.2/96k. Maybe I'm =
missing
>=20
>>something here, but right now I've got the I/O labelled in Cubase so =
that
>=20
>>when, say, a certain numbered input is for one of my D/A's at 88.2 but =

>>correlates to one of the ADAT returns from my slave DAW at 44.1, I can =

>>recognize it by naming it something like In8/Slave 16 or something =
like
>=20
>>that.
>>
>>What I want to be able to do is open up a project at 88.2 and all of =
the
> I/O=20
>>are named according to what they are interfacing with, with no double =
names.
>=20
>>Same thing at 44.1. the only way I can see to do this would be to have =
dual
>=20
>>boot OS drives on both my master and slave machines.
>>
>>What I would like to be able to do is take Acronis True Image and =
clone
> both=20
>>my Master and Slave HD's to two separate drives, as safety copies, =
just
> in=20
>>case, and then use some sort of disk utility to create a new partition =
on
>=20
>>each of the original drives, then use True Image to clone the disk =
image
> to=20
>>the new partition on each of the drives. That way I could have an 88.2 =

>>partition and a 44.1 partition, each with a template of Cubase set up =
to
>=20
>>work at whatever sample rates I need to use, and each template will =
have
> the=20
>>Cubase I/O named correctly.
>>
>>This also sounds like something I could **** up about as bad as a soup =

>>sandwich.
>>
>>
>
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the=20
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but in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MF A 1 - 8 =3D AD/DA I/O =
1-8</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MF SPDIF L &amp; R input =3Dreturn from =
HDSP 9652,=20
output to DAC-1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MF ADAT 1-4 inputs =3D return 1-4 from =
HDSP 9652=20
slave at 44.1 and 88.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MF ADAT 5-8 inputs =3D return 5-8 from =
HDSP 9652=20
slave at 44.1 only</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MADI 1-8 =3D AD/DA I/O 9-16 at both =
44.1 and=20
88.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MADI 9-16=3Dopen at 44.1 but correlate =
to analog 1/0=20
17-24 at 88.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MADI 17-24 =3D AD/DA 17-24 at 44.1 but =
correlate to=20
HDSP 9652 ADAT slave returns 5-8 at 88.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MADI 25-32 =3D open at 44.1 but =
correlate to HDSP=20
9652 ADAT slave returns&nbsp;9-16 at 88.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MADI 33-40=3DAD/DA 17-24 at =
44.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MADI 41-64=3Dreturns from HDSP 9652 =
ADAT slave at=20
44.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This creates a less than elegant =
scenario for the=20
naming of the ports and even more suckage when assigning them and =
reassigning=20
them from project to project.........and even more suckage when =
assigning names=20
of ports to the analog I/O for external hardware and the&nbsp;saving of =
same as=20
favorites.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I had two separate drive images, =
things would be=20
a lot less cluttered and much easier to configure/reconfigure and it =
would only=20
take as much time as it takes to reboot the computer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Much of this idiocy is due to Cubase =
not allowing=20
the saving of templates for port configurations......or if it does I =
can't find=20
where it allows this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Neve box there yet?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>OIUOIU@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
</FONT><A href=3D"news:476d4189$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:476d4189$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; Deej, =
you know you=20
can re-name you i/o's, right? What if you<BR>&gt; just created a 44.1k =
template=20
&amp; named all the i/o's according<BR>&gt; to their sources &amp; =
destinations,=20
save it, and THEN change the<BR>&gt; samplerate to 88.2k, refresh your =
i/o's=20
(which will cause half<BR>&gt; of your lightpipe i/o's to disappear) =
then rename=20
as necessary,<BR>&gt; &amp; save that as your 88.2k template... no need =
for none=20
o' 'dat<BR>&gt; dual-boot/dual-partition/dual-sized-headache =
garbage.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt; Neil<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; "Deej" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:noway@jose.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>noway@jose.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;It may not really be too much of a big deal, but one =
thing I=20
hate about<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;Cubase is that I can't seem to find a way =
to save=20
a template that has the<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;I/O named according to the =
way the=20
ASIO drivers configure them when working<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;at 44.1/48k =
and=20
another one set up solely for 88.2/96k. Maybe I'm missing<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;something here, but right now I've got the I/O labelled in =
Cubase so=20
that<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;when, say, a certain numbered input is for one =
of my=20
D/A's at 88.2 but <BR>&gt;&gt;correlates to one of the ADAT returns from =
my=20
slave DAW at 44.1, I can <BR>&gt;&gt;recognize it by naming it something =
like=20
In8/Slave 16 or something like<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;that.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;What I want to be able to do is =
open up=20
a project at 88.2 and all of the<BR>&gt; I/O <BR>&gt;&gt;are named =
according to=20
what they are interfacing with, with no double names.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;Same=20
thing at 44.1. the only way I can see to do this would be to have =
dual<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;boot OS drives on both my master and slave=20
machines.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;What I would like to be able to do is =
take=20
Acronis True Image and clone<BR>&gt; both <BR>&gt;&gt;my Master and =
Slave HD's=20
to two separate drives, as safety copies, just<BR>&gt; in =
<BR>&gt;&gt;case, and=20
then use some sort of disk utility to create a new partition on<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;each of the original drives, then use True Image to clone =
the disk=20
image<BR>&gt; to <BR>&gt;&gt;the new partition on each of the drives. =
That way I=20
could have an 88.2 <BR>&gt;&gt;partition and a 44.1 partition, each with =
a=20
template of Cubase set up to<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;work at whatever sample =
rates I=20
need to use, and each template will have<BR>&gt; the <BR>&gt;&gt;Cubase =
I/O=20
named correctly.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;This also sounds like something =
I could=20
**** up about as bad as a soup=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;sandwich.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;</FONT></BODY></HTML=
>

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C84497.CE4B9730--Neil,

You can get a 4 pin cable to standard port at most office supply stores, or
Newegg.

AFAIK, the main difference is these are unpowered ports, so you'll have to
run any firewire devices off of wall power.

Regards,
Dedric

On 12/22/07 1:40 PM, in article 476d681b$1@linux, "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com>
wrote:

>
> I've been noticing that newer laptops that have a firewire port
> are using these tiny little 4-pin ports... there are adaptor
> cables for the 6-pin to 4-pin, but is it really the same
> protocol? IOW, if you have an audio interface that has the
> 6-pin, is it simply that you just use one of these adaptor
> cables to get it into the 4-pin, smaller ports on a newer
> laptop?
>
> Neil4 pin does not power a device, 6 does. I believe that is the difference.
done a google for a pin out breakdown?

AA

"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476d681b$1@linux...
>
> I've been noticing that newer laptops that have a firewire port
> are using these tiny little 4-pin ports... there are adaptor
> cables for the 6-pin to 4-pin, but is it really the same
> protocol? IOW, if you have an audio interface that has the
> 6-pin, is it simply that you just use one of these adaptor
> cables to get it into the 4-pin, smaller ports on a newer
> laptop?
>
> Neil"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:

>If I had two separate drive images, things would be a lot less cluttered
=
>and much easier to configure/reconfigure and it would only take as much
=
>time as it takes to reboot the computer.

OK, i think i kinda see where you're going, but I think you're
still going to have the following problem: when you boot up,
let's say your 44.1k image - if you have your clock set to 44.1k
it's STILL going to only display half of your lightpipe i/o's
until you re-clock... really I think all you have to do is to
make sure you're clocked at your chosen samplerate as you boot
up, and then you can open the appropriate template & the i/o's
should be correct.

>Much of this idiocy is due to Cubase not allowing the saving of
>templates for port configurations......or if it does I can't
>find where it allows this.

The i/o configurations all save with the project, as long as
your clock matches the samplerate of the project that you're
opening... unless i'm somehow not understanding your meaning.

>The Neve box there yet?

YES! Didn't you see my post where I was raving about it?

NeilOops, i meant:

"when you boot up, let's say your 44.1k image - if you have
your clock set to ***88.2k***..." etc, etc

Neil


"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>>If I had two separate drive images, things would be a lot less cluttered
>=
>>and much easier to configure/reconfigure and it would only take as much
>=
>>time as it takes to reboot the computer.
>
>OK, i think i kinda see where you're going, but I think you're
>still going to have the following problem: when you boot up,
>let's say your 44.1k image - if you have your clock set to 44.1k
>it's STILL going to only display half of your lightpipe i/o's
>until you re-clock... really I think all you have to do is to
>make sure you're clocked at your chosen samplerate as you boot
>up, and then you can open the appropriate template & the i/o's
>should be correct.
>
>>Much of this idiocy is due to Cubase not allowing the saving of
>>templates for port configurations......or if it does I can't
>>find where it allows this.
>
>The i/o configurations all save with the project, as long as
>your clock matches the samplerate of the project that you're
>opening... unless i'm somehow not understanding your meaning.
>
>>The Neve box there yet?
>
>YES! Didn't you see my post where I was raving about it?
>
>NeilAhhh... gotcha. OK, thanks, Dedric.

(still laptop-shopping, so i wasn't sure about WTF that style
port was all about)

Neil

Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>You can get a 4 pin cable to standard port at most office supply stores,
or
>Newegg.
>
>AFAIK, the main difference is these are unpowered ports, so you'll have
to
>run any firewire devices off of wall power.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 12/22/07 1:40 PM, in article 476d681b$1@linux, "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I've been noticing that newer laptops that have a firewire port
>> are using these tiny little 4-pin ports... there are adaptor
>> cables for the 6-pin to 4-pin, but is it really the same
>> protocol? IOW, if you have an audio interface that has the
>> 6-pin, is it simply that you just use one of these adaptor
>> cables to get it into the 4-pin, smaller ports on a newer
>> laptop?
>>
>> Neil
>Hey Dedric, I 100 agree with your post below. This new controller and even
the MC-5 are wonderful products and does fit the need for the new studio..

It's funny, I made that decision to go small back in 1998 with paris and
C-16's..Liek you , I told my wife that this was the future and that I could
make competive mixes with the PAris setup and did not need the big fader
look.

But, In this world of PT LEs, Cubase, Sonar home setups, even in the competitive
advettising market, I've learned that the the over the top racks and faders
get's you work along with quality of course.

I just got a job to mox a alt rock bands single. They cut the tracks at their
home with Korg 32 track unit..They did a really job, but that unit lacked
the tools to make sound like a finished (radio-ready) record. The drummer
is a really good friend of mine and had been referring me. Eventually, he
brought them to the studio They immedialty feel in love with the Soundcraft
Ghost console(56 channels) and all of the racked gear..NOTE:

The board is hardwired to a Alesis HD24 with aot of outboard gear. My co-studio
owner cuz uses that that recoding setup..I have PAris & Nuendo jacked in
via M-Audio Pro Fire Light Bridge..Light-piped into the Alesis HD24(used
as a converted-really nice..very underated converter..)
So I have 32 from the board (Nuendo) to mix...BUT!! Usually onlu summ to
2 tracks...:)
So, the customers are impressed with all the lights and faders..

I need the system5(ish) look and fuctionality..Maybe the Tascam DM4800 is
for me..



Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>
>If you need a "big" console to impress clients, that's one thing and there
>are a lot of consoles that fit that bill.
>
>But if you need an ergonomic, fast workflow, Euphonix has been doing that
>pretty well so far. The new console with the touch screen (which is likely
>multimode) would allow you to assign key commands, macros, etc to make
>editing, navigating, plugins, etc much much faster. Yes, that may be more
>important for post, but I've found key commands and macros more of a
>workflow enhancement than a lot of faders.
>
>That's what I'm after. I already have a desk system design in mind to
>accomodate this, and fit perfectly for composing.
>
>Also note, there seem to be LCD displays above every fader. Chain the two
>units for 12 faders - probably similar to MCU in that you can move banks,
>maybe even more easily - we'll have to wait and see.
>
>I don't think their point is to compete with a Harrison, SSL, or Neve
>console (the Sys5 is there for that market), but for smaller studios, edit
>suites, post, composing, etc, it's perfect. Also note that the market is
>changing - many people are starting to question the "big is better" mindset
>when you don't end up with a better product just because you have more
>faders in front of you that you are either going to automate, or hire an
>assistant or two to run manually with you.
>
>I'm not the only one seeing a change in the market - I think Euphonix is
>filling a gap that will soon begin to define the fringes as well.
>
>Just my .02,
>Dedric
>
>On 12/22/07 12:35 PM, in article 476d5905$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dedric sent the pics and I'm not really that impressed. I thought they
were
>> going after the the personal studio owner..Yeah I know..That's a very
>> ambiguous
>> label(Perosnal Studio)..Bedroom studio all the way to a full blow studio
>> at home..
>>
>> But, after loking at those pics, it seems that they are still after the
Post
>> market. It does seems that you wil be able to add 8 or 4 fader pacs
at
>> a time. But, a lot my busines comes from
>>
>> -1 The Hyped (big) fader console look
>> -2 Skill..
>>
>> However, I'll await the official pics from Euphonix to make a final decision..
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anybody know what the 'big deal' is? I think it was Dedric who posted
the
>>> link to the teaser on their web site. I'm really looking hard at a control
>>> surface upgrade, and since that's bonus season I might have a little
extra
>>> dosh kicking around. Wondering if anyone knows anything, or suspects
anything
>>> that might be informative.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>
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Mike,
Ah yes but someone is going to have a very merry Christmas !

Good tidings,
Tom
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:476d627d$1@linux...

Hi Rod,

I took two two intro CS courses at the University of Toronto. They =
were
both in Java, but gave me a good foundation in object oriented code =
and c
style syntax. I then took a third course at York University, and that =
one
was also in Java. Last summer, I spent two or 3 evenings with a =
friend of
mine who helped me make the leap to C++ by going over the PARIS code =
with
me and explaining the differences between Java and C++.

The course at York was actually the first class in a computer science =
degree
that I could continue at at any time. I may finish it eventually. =
Right
now, I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money.

I bought my girlfriend a ring this morning. A special thanks goes out =
to
everyone who sent me some cash - my bank account is $2200 lighter this =
afternoon!

Cheers!

Mike


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for =
programming?
>Rod
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kim,
>>
>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I =
owe
>you
>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work =
putting
>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>
>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month =
teaching
>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at =
it a
>day
>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed =
development
>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I =
started, so
>>I'm still making progress.
>>
>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 =
university
>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors =
that
>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can =
provide.
>>=20
>>
>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit! =20
>>
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>
>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest =
work.
>>>
>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you =
insist ;o)
>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for =
us. We
>>owe
>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>
>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare =
cash,
>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to =
donationware
>>I'd
>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>
>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than =
nothing,
>and
>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all =
adds
>>up.
>>>
>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more =
Paris Plugs
>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>
>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. =
He's
>really
>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas =
methinks. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>
>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've =
been =3D
>>>>>throwing
>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have =
the
>>=3D
>>>>>scratch anything=3D20
>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than =
the
>=3D
>>>>>five guys
>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his =
work
>>>=3D
>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>>All done...
>>>>>T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I hope all who download =
Mike's =3D
>>>>>plugs donate=3D20
>>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth =
it ten
>=3D
>>>>>fold. =3D20
>>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>scratch
>>=3D
>>>>>anything=3D20
>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is better than nothing. =
Mike =3D
>>>>>could use some=3D20
>>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>that responded to the =
multiband =3D
>>>>>comp. =3D20
>>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just try his plugs and you =
will be
=3D
>>>>>rewarded. =3D20
>>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,
>>=3D
>>>>>and=3D20
>>>>>you?<BR><A=3D20
=
>>>>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.co=
m/refer=3D
>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ah yes but someone is going to have a =
very merry=20
Christmas !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good tidings,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"Mike Audet" &lt;mike@....&gt; wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:476d627d$1@linux">news:476d627d$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
Rod,<BR><BR>I took two two intro CS courses at the University of=20
Toronto.&nbsp; They were<BR>both in Java, but gave me a good =
foundation in=20
object oriented code and c<BR>style syntax.&nbsp; I then took a third =
course=20
at York University, and that one<BR>was also in Java.&nbsp; Last =
summer, I=20
spent two or 3 evenings with a friend of<BR>mine who helped me make =
the leap=20
to C++ by going over the PARIS code with<BR>me and explaining the =
differences=20
between Java and C++.<BR><BR>The course at York was actually the first =
class=20
in a computer science degree<BR>that I could continue at at any =
time.&nbsp; I=20
may finish it eventually.&nbsp; Right<BR>now, I just need to get a =
career off=20
the ground and make some money.<BR><BR>I bought my girlfriend a ring =
this=20
morning. A special thanks goes out to<BR>everyone who sent me some =
cash - my=20
bank account is $2200 lighter this=20
afternoon!<BR><BR>Cheers!<BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR><BR>"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Mike...so what specific classes did you take at =
the=20
University for programming?<BR>&gt;Rod<BR>&gt;"Mike Audet" =
&lt;mike@....&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Hi Kim,<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Thanks so =
much=20
for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I=20
owe<BR>&gt;you<BR>&gt;&gt;just as much if not more for this =
site!).&nbsp; It's=20
been a lot of work putting<BR>&gt;&gt;these together, and it has also =
been a=20
lot of&nbsp; fun.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;I'm not taking a day off a =
week right=20
now because I got a 3 month teaching<BR>&gt;&gt;contract, though I did =
do that=20
for a few months.&nbsp; I may be back at it a<BR>&gt;day<BR>&gt;&gt;a =
week in=20
February when the contract is over.&nbsp; That's slowed=20
development<BR>&gt;&gt;a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the =
multiband=20
since I started, so<BR>&gt;&gt;I'm still making=20
progress.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;I appreciate the help.&nbsp; I must =
be=20
insane, but I literally took 3 university<BR>&gt;&gt;courses for the =
sole=20
purpose of working PARIS.&nbsp; It's opened up doors =
that<BR>&gt;&gt;made me=20
non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can =
provide.<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is =
a=20
hit!&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;"Kim" =
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Yes, donate to=20
Mike!<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;I just threw him much belated =
cash,=20
especially for this latest work.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;No =
need to=20
donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist=20
;o)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week =
to do=20
this for us. We<BR>&gt;&gt;owe<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;it to him to make sure =
he gets=20
that lost cash back and some.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;He's the =
man and=20
deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare =
cash,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;sure,=20
but if more people went to the effort of donating to=20
donationware<BR>&gt;&gt;I'd<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;bet there would be a lot =
more of it=20
about.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;And look at it this way...&nbsp; =
better=20
that you give him $10 than nothing,<BR>&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;surely =
there are=20
lots of people who are willing to do that. It all=20
adds<BR>&gt;&gt;up.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;But don't stop=20
there...&nbsp; we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris=20
Plugs<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy=20
prices!<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Seriously, he's taken a big =
risk for=20
us. Whatever you can afford. He's<BR>&gt;really<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;pushing =
things=20
along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks.=20
=
:o)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Cheers, <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;Kim.<BR>&gt;&gt=
;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Cujo"=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:chris@applemanstudio.com">chris@applemanstudio.com</A>&gt;=
=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Yes I need to and to=20
Kim.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I;d love a new delay for=20
Paris<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"Tom =
Bruhl"=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =

=
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;I=20
hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too.&nbsp; I know I've been=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;throwing<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;$25/plug =
and feel=20
it's worth it ten fold.&nbsp; Even if you don't have=20
the<BR>&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;scratch=20
anything=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;is better than nothing.&nbsp; =
Mike could=20
use some love from more than =
the<BR>&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;five=20
guys<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that responded to the multiband =
comp.&nbsp; The=20
hours that go into his =
work<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;is=20
crazy.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Just try his =
plugs and=20
you will be rewarded.&nbsp; Then reward =
Mike.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;All=20
=
done...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;T.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I=20
choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
=
you?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;!DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
=
Transitional//EN"&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;HTML&gt; &lt;HEAD&gt; <BR>=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=
=3D<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;charset=3D3Diso-8859 -1 "&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&lt;META=20
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name=3D3DGENERATOR&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;STYLE&gt ;&lt;/STYLE&gt;=
<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt ; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;& amp;lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;I hope all who download Mike's =
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;plugs=20
donate=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;too.&nbsp; I know I've been=20
=
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ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;$25/plug and feel it's worth it=20
ten<BR>&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;fold. =
=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Even if=20
you don't have the &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2&gt;scratch<BR>&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;anything=3D20=
<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt ;&lt;/DIV&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;is better than nothing.&nbsp; Mike=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;could use =
some=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;love from=20
more than the five=20
=
guys&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;& amp;lt;FONT =

face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;that responded to the multiband=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;comp. =3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;The =
hours that go=20
into his work is=20
=
crazy.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;& amp;lt;FON=
T=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;=20
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;& amp;lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =

size=3D3D2&gt;Just try his plugs and you will=20
be<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;rewarded. =
=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Then=20
reward=20
=
Mike.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;& amp;lt;FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;All=20
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done...&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;& amp;lt;FO=
NT=20
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size=3D3D2&gt;T.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt ; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;DIV&=
gt;&lt;FONT=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight=20
=
spam,<BR>&gt;&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;and=3D20 <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;you?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;href=3D3D "<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html"&gt;http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;.html&lt;/A& gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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the device manager can be saved with a project template?

I haven't been able to accomplish this. Maybe it's because I'm not setting
my sample rate in a correct sequence of events?

I'll look into this.

thanks,

Deej

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476d6cde$1@linux...
>
> Oops, i meant:
>
> "when you boot up, let's say your 44.1k image - if you have
> your clock set to ***88.2k***..." etc, etc
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>
>>>If I had two separate drive images, things would be a lot less cluttered
>>=
>>>and much easier to configure/reconfigure and it would only take as much
>>=
>>>time as it takes to reboot the computer.
>>
>>OK, i think i kinda see where you're going, but I think you're
>>still going to have the following problem: when you boot up,
>>let's say your 44.1k image - if you have your clock set to 44.1k
>>it's STILL going to only display half of your lightpipe i/o's
>>until you re-clock... really I think all you have to do is to
>>make sure you're clocked at your chosen samplerate as you boot
>>up, and then you can open the appropriate template & the i/o's
>>should be correct.
>>
>>>Much of this idiocy is due to Cubase not allowing the saving of
>>>templates for port configurations......or if it does I can't
>>>find where it allows this.
>>
>>The i/o configurations all save with the project, as long as
>>your clock matches the samplerate of the project that you're
>>opening... unless i'm somehow not understanding your meaning.
>>
>>>The Neve box there yet?
>>
>>YES! Didn't you see my post where I was raving about it?
>>
>>Neil
>Hi Everyone,

Is there a program that will take a MAC project file and convert it to PC
format? I have a client that wants me to convert several PARIS (MAC) projects
to .WAV. I can read the sound files fine into a NEW project, but not the
project files themselves. I am running 2.1 with WIN98.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance."TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:476d2ec8$1@linux...
>
> Yup, I think I did score. I've been messing around with Traktor Scratch
> since
> I got them back and it's a really cool rig. Now I have to practice a lot,
> but it should be fun practice. I've been pawing through my vinyl
> collection,
> which has some gems I had forgotten, and then going through the digital
> files
> as well.
>
> The funny thing is that I wrote the documentation for Traktor v. 2 but the
> software is a little confusing. Who knew?
>
> TCB
>

Wow!!!..that's ironic, huh???

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Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you tell us what you really think? I'm =
tellin' ya' man, this little box was the major deciding factor in my =
move from Paris to a native system. I strapped it across the mix bus =
insert in Paris and dialed it in until I couldn't tell it was working or =
not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of a Paris mix.. Then =
I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and strapped the 5042 =
across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just blew =
me away. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was hearing on =
the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even =
more/bigger.......plus suddenly I had all of the functionality of =
Cubase.

My Paris gear went up for sale the next day. Not knockin' Paris =
guys.........I'm just reporting the facts here.

I figured you'd like it.......;o)

Deej


"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476b4c16$1@linux...
>=20
> OK, I just got it in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,
> and my initial impressions are confined to four simple
> words...
>=20
> Oh. My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!
>=20
> Holy shit, no kidding - I have NEVER heard anything like this.
> This might be one of those "magic box" kinds of things, like
> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the digiworld, perhaps.
>=20
> I need to play with it some more, but holy shit, I am very
> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't even
> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried about
> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment way
> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in that
> range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't
> bother me one bit - at least so far.
>=20
> Neil
>=20
>=20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>It's gonna round things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage =
without
>=20
>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with Elephant
>>;o)
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769dfc2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769d354$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 5042 on the way that I picked up at a good price...
>>>>> will report back once I have a chance to try it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>I predict that you will like it......a lot.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>
>>> I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it once
>>> I get familiar with it.
>>>
>>> Neil=20
>>
>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you =
tell us what=20
you </FONT><EM>really </EM>think? I'm tellin' ya' man, this little box =
was the=20
major deciding factor in my move from Paris to a native system. I =
strapped it=20
across the&nbsp;mix bus insert in Paris and dialed it in until I =
couldn't tell=20
it was working or not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of =
a Paris=20
mix.. Then I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and =
strapped the=20
5042 across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just =
<EM>blew=20
me away</EM>. A truly epiphonic moment. &nbsp;It was 90+% what I was =
hearing on=20
the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even=20
<STRONG><EM>more/bigger.......</EM></STRONG>plus suddenly I had all of =
the=20
functionality of Cubase.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Paris gear went up for sale the next =
day. Not=20
knockin' Paris guys.........I'm just reporting the&nbsp;facts =
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured you'd like =
it.......;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>OIUOI@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
</FONT><A href=3D"news:476b4c16$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:476b4c16$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; OK, I =
just got it=20
in tonight &amp; was just playing with it a bit,<BR>&gt; and my initial=20
impressions are confined to four simple<BR>&gt; words...<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; Oh.=20
My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Holy shit, no kidding - I have =
NEVER=20
heard anything like this.<BR>&gt; This might be one of those "magic box" =
kinds=20
of things, like<BR>&gt; the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the =
digiworld,=20
perhaps.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I need to play with it some more, but holy =
shit, I am=20
very<BR>&gt; impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't=20
even<BR>&gt; notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried=20
about<BR>&gt; considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment =

way<BR>&gt; up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in =
that<BR>&gt;=20
range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't<BR>&gt; =
bother me one=20
bit - at least so far.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Neil<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
"DJ"=20
&lt;animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;It's gonna =
round=20
things a bit and&nbsp; "broaden/deepen" your soundstage without<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with=20
Elephant<BR>&gt;&gt;;o)<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; "Neil" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>OIUOIU@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
</FONT><A href=3D"news:4769dfc2$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:4769dfc2$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "DJ" &lt;animix _ at _ =
animas _ dot _=20
net&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Neil" =
&lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>OIUOI@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote in message </FONT><A=20
href=3D"news:4769d354$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:4769d354$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I have a =
5042 on the=20
way that I picked up at a good price...<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; will =
report back=20
once I have a chance to try it=20
out.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Neil<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I predict that you will like =

it......a=20
lot.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;;o) <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&g=
t;&gt;=20
I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with &amp; without it =
once<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
I get familiar with it.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Neil=20
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Wait!!!.....I'm not talking about the I/O assignments, I'm talking about =
I/O names and whether or not they are hidden or not in the device =
manager.............oh..nevermind........

;o)

"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476d6c57$1@linux...
>=20
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>=20
>>If I had two separate drive images, things would be a lot less =
cluttered
> =3D
>>and much easier to configure/reconfigure and it would only take as =
much
> =3D
>>time as it takes to reboot the computer.
>=20
> OK, i think i kinda see where you're going, but I think you're
> still going to have the following problem: when you boot up,
> let's say your 44.1k image - if you have your clock set to 44.1k
> it's STILL going to only display half of your lightpipe i/o's
> until you re-clock... really I think all you have to do is to
> make sure you're clocked at your chosen samplerate as you boot
> up, and then you can open the appropriate template & the i/o's
> should be correct.
>=20
>>Much of this idiocy is due to Cubase not allowing the saving of
>>templates for port configurations......or if it does I can't=20
>>find where it allows this.
>=20
> The i/o configurations all save with the project, as long as
> your clock matches the samplerate of the project that you're
> opening... unless i'm somehow not understanding your meaning.
>=20
>>The Neve box there yet?
>=20
> YES! Didn't you see my post where I was raving about it?
>=20
> Neil
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking about the =
I/O=20
assignments, I'm talking about I/O <EM>names</EM> and whether or not =
they are=20
hidden or not in the device=20
manager.............oh..nevermind........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:IUOIU@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>IUOIU@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
</FONT><A href=3D"news:476d6c57$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:476d6c57$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
"Deej"=20
&lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:noway@jose.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>noway@jose.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;If I had two separate drive images, things would be a lot =
less=20
cluttered<BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt;&gt;and much easier to =
configure/reconfigure and it=20
would only take as much<BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt;&gt;time as it takes to =
reboot the=20
computer.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; OK, i think i kinda see where you're going, =
but I=20
think you're<BR>&gt; still going to have the following problem: when you =
boot=20
up,<BR>&gt; let's say your 44.1k image - if you have your clock set to=20
44.1k<BR>&gt; it's STILL going to only display half of your lightpipe=20
i/o's<BR>&gt; until you re-clock... really I think all you have to do is =

to<BR>&gt; make sure you're clocked at your chosen samplerate as you=20
boot<BR>&gt; up, and then you can open the appropriate template &amp; =
the=20
i/o's<BR>&gt; should be correct.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;Much of this idiocy =
is due=20
to Cubase not allowing the saving of<BR>&gt;&gt;templates for port=20
configurations......or if it does I can't <BR>&gt;&gt;find where it =
allows=20
this.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The i/o configurations all save with the project, =
as long=20
as<BR>&gt; your clock matches the samplerate of the project that =
you're<BR>&gt;=20
opening... unless i'm somehow not understanding your meaning.<BR>&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;The Neve box there yet?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; YES! Didn't you see =
my post=20
where I was raving about it?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Neil</FONT></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C844A2.6A0A9BD0--Strap one of the channels across the output of a preamp when you're
tracking a singer or guitar and dial in some major "vibe" when you're
tracking.

I actually need 6 x of these so I can have one channel of 5042 across every
mic that is tracking a drum kit.......errr.............well....... for that
price, I could probably buy a Studer........but then I would have to
maintain it and buy tape.

;o)

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476c8e3a$1@linux...
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Really??
>
> Yes, absolutely - I've never heard anything like this before...
> it's very unique... i'm chillin' tonight because I had a
> freaking-hectic week, but I'll try & run a mix or two through
> it tomorrow & post a couple of clips so you can see what I mean.
>
> NeilDude, we'll have to stop the circle of back slaps, but seriously I don't
do much work to keep the group running. I reckon I've put in maybe 30 hours.
;o) Which reminds me I MUST update the links section...

;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Kim,
>
>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
you
>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>
>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it a
day
>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started, so
>I'm still making progress.
>
>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>
>
>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>
>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>
>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist ;o)
>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us. We
>owe
>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>
>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>I'd
>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>
>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
and
>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>up.
>>
>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris Plugs
>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>
>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
really
>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>
>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been =
>>>>throwing
>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
>=
>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
=
>>>>five guys
>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>>=
>>>>is crazy.
>>>>
>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>All done...
>>>>T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten
=
>>>>fold. =20
>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>=
>>>>anything=20
>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>could use some=20
>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>comp. =20
>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be =
>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>=
>>>>and=20
>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Mike,

Congrats dude!

Wow. Nice.

I think that calls for a beer. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.


"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Rod,
>
>I took two two intro CS courses at the University of Toronto. They were
>both in Java, but gave me a good foundation in object oriented code and
c
>style syntax. I then took a third course at York University, and that one
>was also in Java. Last summer, I spent two or 3 evenings with a friend
of
>mine who helped me make the leap to C++ by going over the PARIS code with
>me and explaining the differences between Java and C++.
>
>The course at York was actually the first class in a computer science degree
>that I could continue at at any time. I may finish it eventually. Right
>now, I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money.
>
>I bought my girlfriend a ring this morning. A special thanks goes out to
>everyone who sent me some cash - my bank account is $2200 lighter this afternoon!
>
>Cheers!
>
>Mike
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
>>Rod
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Kim,
>>>
>>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
>>you
>>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>>
>>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it
a
>>day
>>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started,
so
>>>I'm still making progress.
>>>
>>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
>>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>>
>>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>>>
>>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist
;o)
>>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us.
We
>>>owe
>>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>>
>>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>>>I'd
>>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>>
>>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
>>and
>>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>>>up.
>>>>
>>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris
Plugs
>>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>>
>>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
>>really
>>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks.
:o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been
=
>>>>>>throwing
>>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
>>>=
>>>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
>>=
>>>>>>five guys
>>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>>>>=
>>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>>>All done...
>>>>>>T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten
>>=
>>>>>>fold. =20
>>>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>>>=
>>>>>>anything=20
>>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>>>could use some=20
>>>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>>>comp. =20
>>>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be
>=
>>>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>>>=
>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Thanks Mike, I keep thinking that's something I might like, if I take the
first step to get intno it.
Rod
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Rod,
>
>I took two two intro CS courses at the University of Toronto. They were
>both in Java, but gave me a good foundation in object oriented code and
c
>style syntax. I then took a third course at York University, and that one
>was also in Java. Last summer, I spent two or 3 evenings with a friend
of
>mine who helped me make the leap to C++ by going over the PARIS code with
>me and explaining the differences between Java and C++.
>
>The course at York was actually the first class in a computer science degree
>that I could continue at at any time. I may finish it eventually. Right
>now, I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money.
>
>I bought my girlfriend a ring this morning. A special thanks goes out to
>everyone who sent me some cash - my bank account is $2200 lighter this afternoon!
>
>Cheers!
>
>Mike
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
>>Rod
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Kim,
>>>
>>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
>>you
>>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>>
>>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it
a
>>day
>>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started,
so
>>>I'm still making progress.
>>>
>>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
>>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>>
>>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>>>
>>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist
;o)
>>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us.
We
>>>owe
>>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>>
>>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>>>I'd
>>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>>
>>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
>>and
>>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>>>up.
>>>>
>>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris
Plugs
>>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>>
>>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
>>really
>>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks.
:o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been
=
>>>>>>throwing
>>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
>>>=
>>>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
>>=
>>>>>>five guys
>>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>>>>=
>>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>>>All done...
>>>>>>T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten
>>=
>>>>>>fold. =20
>>>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>>>=
>>>>>>anything=20
>>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>>>could use some=20
>>>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>>>comp. =20
>>>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be
>=
>>>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>>>=
>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Dave-

I may be hallucinating, but I swear I have projects that I started
on my mac paris system that I open all the time on my XP
paris system. I think the projects should be cross platform.

I think.

-steve





"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Is there a program that will take a MAC project file and convert it to PC
>format? I have a client that wants me to convert several PARIS (MAC) projects
>to .WAV. I can read the sound files fine into a NEW project, but not the
>project files themselves. I am running 2.1 with WIN98.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance.Crap, I can't post any comparison clips of it right now,
because I can't figure out how to bypass external EFX
without having it mute everything. I was going to an A/B thing
& automate the bypass, but when it bypasses, it disconnects the
loop, and all audio disappears!

What am I doing wrong Deej? You've messed with external EFX in
Cubase more than I have - any ideas?

Neil


"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>
>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you tell us what you really think? I'm
=
>tellin' ya' man, this little box was the major deciding factor in my =
>move from Paris to a native system. I strapped it across the mix bus =
>insert in Paris and dialed it in until I couldn't tell it was working or
=
>not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of a Paris mix.. Then
=
>I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and strapped the 5042
=
>across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just blew
=
>me away. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was hearing on =
>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even =
>more/bigger.......plus suddenly I had all of the functionality of =
>Cubase.
>
>My Paris gear went up for sale the next day. Not knockin' Paris =
>guys.........I'm just reporting the facts here.
>
>I figured you'd like it.......;o)
>
>Deej
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476b4c16$1@linux...
>>=20
>> OK, I just got it in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,
>> and my initial impressions are confined to four simple
>> words...
>>=20
>> Oh. My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!
>>=20
>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have NEVER heard anything like this.
>> This might be one of those "magic box" kinds of things, like
>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the digiworld, perhaps.
>>=20
>> I need to play with it some more, but holy shit, I am very
>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't even
>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried about
>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment way
>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in that
>> range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't
>> bother me one bit - at least so far.
>>=20
>> Neil
>>=20
>>=20
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>It's gonna round things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage =
>without
>>=20
>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with Elephant
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769dfc2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769d354$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 5042 on the way that I picked up at a good price...
>>>>>> will report back once I have a chance to try it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>I predict that you will like it......a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>> I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it once
>>>> I get familiar with it.
>>>>
>>>> Neil=20
>>>
>>>
>>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you =
>tell us what=20
>you </FONT><EM>really </EM>think? I'm tellin' ya' man, this little box =
>was the=20
>major deciding factor in my move from Paris to a native system. I =
>strapped it=20
>across the mix bus insert in Paris and dialed it in until I =
>couldn't tell=20
>it was working or not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of
=
>a Paris=20
>mix.. Then I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and =
>strapped the=20
>5042 across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just
=
><EM>blew=20
>me away</EM>. A truly epiphonic moment.  It was 90+% what I was =
>hearing on=20
>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even=20
><STRONG><EM>more/bigger.......</EM></STRONG>plus suddenly I had all of =
>the=20
>functionality of Cubase.</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Paris gear went up for sale the next
=
>day. Not=20
>knockin' Paris guys.........I'm just reporting the facts =
>here.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured you'd like =
>it.......;o)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
>DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>OIUOI@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>in message=20
></FONT><A href=3D"news:476b4c16$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>news:476b4c16$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> OK, I =
>just got it=20
>in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,<BR>> and my initial=20
>impressions are confined to four simple<BR>> words...<BR>> =
><BR>> Oh.=20
>My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!<BR>> <BR>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have =
>NEVER=20
>heard anything like this.<BR>> This might be one of those "magic box" =
>kinds=20
>of things, like<BR>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the =
>digiworld,=20
>perhaps.<BR>> <BR>> I need to play with it some more, but holy =
>shit, I am=20
>very<BR>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't=20
>even<BR>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried=20
>about<BR>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment =
>
>way<BR>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in =
>that<BR>>=20
>range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't<BR>> =
>bother me one=20
>bit - at least so far.<BR>> <BR>> Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
>"DJ"=20
><animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:<BR>>>It's gonna =
>round=20
>things a bit and  "broaden/deepen" your soundstage without<BR>>=20
><BR>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with=20
>Elephant<BR>>>;o)<BR>>><BR>>>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>OIUOIU@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>in message=20
></FONT><A href=3D"news:4769dfc2$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>news:4769dfc2$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>...<BR>>>><BR>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ =
>animas _ dot _=20
>net> wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>"Neil" =
><</FONT><A=20
>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>OIUOI@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
>face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote in message </FONT><A=20
>href=3D"news:4769d354$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>news:4769d354$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>...<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> I have a =
>5042 on the=20
>way that I picked up at a good price...<BR>>>>>> will =
>report back=20
>once I have a chance to try it=20
>out.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=20
>Neil<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>I predict that you will like =
>
>it......a=20
>lot.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>;o)<BR>>>><BR>>&g=
>t;>=20
>I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it =
>once<BR>>>>=20
>I get familiar with it.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Neil=20
><BR>>><BR>>><BR>></FONT></BODY></HTML>
>
>OK, look, here's the way you do it... if you go to the topbar
menu & select: Devices/VST Connections & select
either the "Inputs" or "Outputs" tab, you'll se a little teeny
black window in the upper area that says "presets"; it has
several stock presets that you can load using the drop-down
arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you want to do
is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the plus
sign, just to the right of the little presets windowette...
THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.

Make one for 88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to
88.2 so you see all the lightpipe ports, name everything the
way you want on the Input side (tab), then click the little
folder icon with the plus sign in it, and save it as: "88k
Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go over to the
Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat the
folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or what have
you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course, your
lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh the i/o's
under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for VST
inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". (in fact,
you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k i/o
template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so
you may have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make
sure you're seeing all of them).

OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start naming your i/o's for
the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as described
above... then save one for the Input side & one under the
output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.

And there you have it!!!!!!!!! No muss, no fuss, no dual-
partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to
refresh your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k
project & an 88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o
templates!

Neil




"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>
>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking about the I/O assignments, I'm talking about
=
>I/O names and whether or not they are hidden or not in the device =
>manager.............oh..nevermind........Are you in direct monitoring mode?


"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476db54a$1@linux...
>
> Crap, I can't post any comparison clips of it right now,
> because I can't figure out how to bypass external EFX
> without having it mute everything. I was going to an A/B thing
> & automate the bypass, but when it bypasses, it disconnects the
> loop, and all audio disappears!
>
> What am I doing wrong Deej? You've messed with external EFX in
> Cubase more than I have - any ideas?
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you tell us what you really think? I'm
> =
>>tellin' ya' man, this little box was the major deciding factor in my =
>>move from Paris to a native system. I strapped it across the mix bus =
>>insert in Paris and dialed it in until I couldn't tell it was working or
> =
>>not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of a Paris mix.. Then
> =
>>I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and strapped the 5042
> =
>>across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just blew
> =
>>me away. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was hearing on =
>>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even =
>>more/bigger.......plus suddenly I had all of the functionality of =
>>Cubase.
>>
>>My Paris gear went up for sale the next day. Not knockin' Paris =
>>guys.........I'm just reporting the facts here.
>>
>>I figured you'd like it.......;o)
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476b4c16$1@linux...
>>>=20
>>> OK, I just got it in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,
>>> and my initial impressions are confined to four simple
>>> words...
>>>=20
>>> Oh. My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!
>>>=20
>>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have NEVER heard anything like this.
>>> This might be one of those "magic box" kinds of things, like
>>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the digiworld, perhaps.
>>>=20
>>> I need to play with it some more, but holy shit, I am very
>>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't even
>>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried about
>>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment way
>>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in that
>>> range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't
>>> bother me one bit - at least so far.
>>>=20
>>> Neil
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>It's gonna round things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage =
>>without
>>>=20
>>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with Elephant
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769dfc2$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769d354$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a 5042 on the way that I picked up at a good price...
>>>>>>> will report back once I have a chance to try it out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I predict that you will like it......a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it once
>>>>> I get familiar with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil=20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=3DGENERATOR>
>><STYLE></STYLE>
>></HEAD>
>><BODY>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you =
>>tell us what=20
>>you </FONT><EM>really </EM>think? I'm tellin' ya' man, this little box =
>>was the=20
>>major deciding factor in my move from Paris to a native system. I =
>>strapped it=20
>>across the mix bus insert in Paris and dialed it in until I =
>>couldn't tell=20
>>it was working or not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of
> =
>>a Paris=20
>>mix.. Then I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and =
>>strapped the=20
>>5042 across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just
> =
>><EM>blew=20
>>me away</EM>. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was =
>>hearing on=20
>>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even=20
>><STRONG><EM>more/bigger.......</EM></STRONG>plus suddenly I had all of =
>>the=20
>>functionality of Cubase.</DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Paris gear went up for sale the next
> =
>>day. Not=20
>>knockin' Paris guys.........I'm just reporting the facts =
>>here.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured you'd like =
>>it.......;o)</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
>>DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>OIUOI@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>>in message=20
>></FONT><A href=3D"news:476b4c16$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>news:476b4c16$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> OK, I =
>>just got it=20
>>in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,<BR>> and my initial=20
>>impressions are confined to four simple<BR>> words...<BR>> =
>><BR>> Oh.=20
>>My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!<BR>> <BR>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have =
>>NEVER=20
>>heard anything like this.<BR>> This might be one of those "magic box" =
>>kinds=20
>>of things, like<BR>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the =
>>digiworld,=20
>>perhaps.<BR>> <BR>> I need to play with it some more, but holy =
>>shit, I am=20
>>very<BR>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't=20
>>even<BR>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried=20
>>about<BR>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment =
>>
>>way<BR>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in =
>>that<BR>>=20
>>range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't<BR>> =
>>bother me one=20
>>bit - at least so far.<BR>> <BR>> Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
>>"DJ"=20
>><animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:<BR>>>It's gonna =
>>round=20
>>things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage without<BR>>=20
>><BR>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with=20
>>Elephant<BR>>>;o)<BR>>><BR>>>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>OIUOIU@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>>in message=20
>></FONT><A href=3D"news:4769dfc2$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>news:4769dfc2$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>...<BR>>>><BR>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ =
>>animas _ dot _=20
>>net> wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>"Neil" =
>><</FONT><A=20
>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial =
>>size=3D2>OIUOI@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
>>face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote in message </FONT><A=20
>>href=3D"news:4769d354$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>news:4769d354$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>...<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> I have a =
>>5042 on the=20
>>way that I picked up at a good price...<BR>>>>>> will =
>>report back=20
>>once I have a chance to try it=20
>>out.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=20
>>Neil<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>I predict that you will like =
>>
>>it......a=20
>>lot.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>;o)<BR>>>><BR>>&g=
>>t;>=20
>>I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it =
>>once<BR>>>>=20
>>I get familiar with it.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Neil=20
>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>></FONT></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Several


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Mike,
>
>Congrats dude!
>
>Wow. Nice.
>
>I think that calls for a beer. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Rod,
>>
>>I took two two intro CS courses at the University of Toronto. They were
>>both in Java, but gave me a good foundation in object oriented code and
>c
>>style syntax. I then took a third course at York University, and that
one
>>was also in Java. Last summer, I spent two or 3 evenings with a friend
>of
>>mine who helped me make the leap to C++ by going over the PARIS code with
>>me and explaining the differences between Java and C++.
>>
>>The course at York was actually the first class in a computer science degree
>>that I could continue at at any time. I may finish it eventually. Right
>>now, I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money.
>>
>>I bought my girlfriend a ring this morning. A special thanks goes out to
>>everyone who sent me some cash - my bank account is $2200 lighter this
afternoon!
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
>>>Rod
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Kim,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
>>>you
>>>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>>>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>>>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it
>a
>>>day
>>>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>>>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started,
>so
>>>>I'm still making progress.
>>>>
>>>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>>>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors
that
>>>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>>>
>>>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>>>>
>>>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist
>;o)
>>>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us.
>We
>>>>owe
>>>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>>>
>>>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare
cash,
>>>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>>>>I'd
>>>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>>>
>>>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
>>>and
>>>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>>>>up.
>>>>>
>>>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris
>Plugs
>>>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>>>
>>>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
>>>really
>>>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks.
>:o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been
>=
>>>>>>>throwing
>>>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have
the
>>>>=
>>>>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
>>>=
>>>>>>>five guys
>>>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his
work
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>>>>All done...
>>>>>>>T.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten
>>>=
>>>>>>>fold. =20
>>>>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>>>>=
>>>>>>>anything=20
>>>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>>>>could use some=20
>>>>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>>>>comp. =20
>>>>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be
>>=
>>>>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>>>>=
>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>OK, so this a song clip with & without the Portico Tape
Simulator. I automated the bypass so that when I rendered the
file it would insert & bypass the Portico in each different
section, for comparision purposes.

Now, this unit does NOT have an output control, it has an input
drive/gain (which you have to optimze in order to drive the
device at a certain level), and a Tape Saturation knob, and
that's it as far as anything resembing a level control, so I
was not able to achieve a "unity gain" scenario during the
bypass vs. insert process. I even tried automating the 2-buss
gain to drop a bit when the Portico was inserted, but you could
still hear a difference - IOW, it's pretty apparent where the
Portico kicks in, and there's no way to make this a scientific
test, or if so, it would be really time-consuming to do so...
so FUCK IT! LOL This is for your edification & demonstration
purposes only... how's that? :D

By the way, the saturation setting on this example is only at
about a quarter of the way up... so it can indeed saturate more
than what you're hearing, and frankly, I think I might back it
off a tad bit from this examples settings in most cases... this
setting just just seemed like a good place where you could hear
the effect without it being overdone. The "tape speed"
emulation is set at 15ips (7.5 starts rolling off too early for
my taste). There is no 30ips - according to someone I talked to
at Rupert Neve Designs, that setting would have so little
effect as to be negligible, so they didn't include it.

High-rez mp3 link is below:

http://saqqararecords.com/MiscAudio/DiMakina-Panophobia-Port icoTapeSimABcomparison.mp3

And public thanks once again the guys in DiMakina for giving me
permission to use their tunes freely in demos like these.

Neil



"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>Are you in direct monitoring mode?
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476db54a$1@linux...
>>
>> Crap, I can't post any comparison clips of it right now,
>> because I can't figure out how to bypass external EFX
>> without having it mute everything. I was going to an A/B thing
>> & automate the bypass, but when it bypasses, it disconnects the
>> loop, and all audio disappears!
>>
>> What am I doing wrong Deej? You've messed with external EFX in
>> Cubase more than I have - any ideas?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you tell us what you really think? I'm
>> =
>>>tellin' ya' man, this little box was the major deciding factor in my =
>>>move from Paris to a native system. I strapped it across the mix bus =
>>>insert in Paris and dialed it in until I couldn't tell it was working
or
>> =
>>>not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of a Paris mix.. Then
>> =
>>>I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and strapped the 5042
>> =
>>>across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just blew
>> =
>>>me away. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was hearing on
=
>>>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even =
>>>more/bigger.......plus suddenly I had all of the functionality of =
>>>Cubase.
>>>
>>>My Paris gear went up for sale the next day. Not knockin' Paris =
>>>guys.........I'm just reporting the facts here.
>>>
>>>I figured you'd like it.......;o)
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476b4c16$1@linux...
>>>>=20
>>>> OK, I just got it in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,
>>>> and my initial impressions are confined to four simple
>>>> words...
>>>>=20
>>>> Oh. My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!
>>>>=20
>>>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have NEVER heard anything like this.
>>>> This might be one of those "magic box" kinds of things, like
>>>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the digiworld, perhaps.
>>>>=20
>>>> I need to play with it some more, but holy shit, I am very
>>>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't even
>>>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried about
>>>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment way
>>>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in that
>>>> range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't
>>>> bother me one bit - at least so far.
>>>>=20
>>>> Neil
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>It's gonna round things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage
=
>>>without
>>>>=20
>>>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with Elephant
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769dfc2$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769d354$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a 5042 on the way that I picked up at a good price...
>>>>>>>> will report back once I have a chance to try it out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I predict that you will like it......a lot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it once
>>>>>> I get familiar with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil=20
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you
=
>>>tell us what=20
>>>you </FONT><EM>really </EM>think? I'm tellin' ya' man, this little box
=
>>>was the=20
>>>major deciding factor in my move from Paris to a native system. I =
>>>strapped it=20
>>>across the mix bus insert in Paris and dialed it in until I =
>>>couldn't tell=20
>>>it was working or not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of
>> =
>>>a Paris=20
>>>mix.. Then I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and =
>>>strapped the=20
>>>5042 across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just
>> =
>>><EM>blew=20
>>>me away</EM>. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was =
>>>hearing on=20
>>>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even=20
>>><STRONG><EM>more/bigger.......</EM></STRONG>plus suddenly I had all of
=
>>>the=20
>>>functionality of Cubase.</DIV>
>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Paris gear went up for sale the next
>> =
>>>day. Not=20
>>>knockin' Paris guys.........I'm just reporting the facts =
>>>here.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured you'd like =
>>>it.......;o)</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
>>>DIV> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>OIUOI@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>>>in message=20
>>></FONT><A href=3D"news:476b4c16$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>news:476b4c16$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> OK, I =
>>>just got it=20
>>>in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,<BR>> and my initial=20
>>>impressions are confined to four simple<BR>> words...<BR>> =
>>><BR>> Oh.=20
>>>My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!<BR>> <BR>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have =
>>>NEVER=20
>>>heard anything like this.<BR>> This might be one of those "magic box"
=
>>>kinds=20
>>>of things, like<BR>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the =
>>>digiworld,=20
>>>perhaps.<BR>> <BR>> I need to play with it some more, but holy =
>>>shit, I am=20
>>>very<BR>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't=20
>>>even<BR>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried=20
>>>about<BR>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment
=
>>>
>>>way<BR>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in =
>>>that<BR>>=20
>>>range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't<BR>> =
>>>bother me one=20
>>>bit - at least so far.<BR>> <BR>> Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
>>>"DJ"=20
>>><animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:<BR>>>It's gonna =
>>>round=20
>>>things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage without<BR>>=20
>>><BR>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with=20
>>>Elephant<BR>>>;o)<BR>>><BR>>>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>OIUOIU@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>>>in message=20
>>></FONT><A href=3D"news:4769dfc2$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>news:4769dfc2$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>...<BR>>>><BR>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ =
>>>animas _ dot _=20
>>>net> wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>"Neil" =
>>><</FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial =
>>>size=3D2>OIUOI@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote in message </FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"news:4769d354$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>news:4769d354$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>...<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> I have a =
>>>5042 on the=20
>>>way that I picked up at a good price...<BR>>>>>> will =
>>>report back=20
>>>once I have a chance to try it=20
>>>out.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=20
>>>Neil<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>I predict that you will like =
>>>
>>>it......a=20
>>>lot.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>;o)<BR>>>><BR>>&g=
>>>t;>=20
>>>I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it =
>>>once<BR>>>>=20
>>>I get familiar with it.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Neil=20
>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>></FONT></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Hi Neil,
Only difference is that 6 in delivers power.
If you are doing audio on the laptop make sure the laptop uses a Texas
Instruments Fire wire chipset.

Chris


Neil wrote:
> I've been noticing that newer laptops that have a firewire port
> are using these tiny little 4-pin ports... there are adaptor
> cables for the 6-pin to 4-pin, but is it really the same
> protocol? IOW, if you have an audio interface that has the
> 6-pin, is it simply that you just use one of these adaptor
> cables to get it into the 4-pin, smaller ports on a newer
> laptop?
>
> Neil
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:49:47 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

>4 pin does not power a device, 6 does. I believe that is the difference.
>done a google for a pin out breakdown?
>

That is exactly right. The 4-pin was designed more for DV and still
cameras, whicih would be self-powered. You can use an adapter cable,
but if you're running a hard drive from a 4-pin connection, it WILL
need some sort of external power.

Most current DSLR's and digicams use usb2 now, which I'm not all that
fond of. My Olympus E-1, however, has both, and I always use FW.

Same thing with my iPod -- mine is the last model that still uses FW.
I don't give a rat's ass what the marketing whizzes claim -- firewire
was designed for continuous large flows of data, and still excels at
that. Really pissed me off when Apple caved to the
lowest-common-PC-denominator and abandoned the interface THEY FREAKIN'
INVENTED because most people on Windoze boxes don't even know what the
hell firewire is.....

Don't get me started.

pabInteresting - thanks, Chris. I don't know if i'm gonna do that
yet, but I'm trying to have it as an option.

BTW, what about this new FW protocol i've been hearing about..?
I think it's called Firewire 3200 - supposed to be better for
audio, as well as video... not out yet, though, just in the
development stages.

Neil

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Neil,
>Only difference is that 6 in delivers power.
>If you are doing audio on the laptop make sure the laptop uses a Texas
>Instruments Fire wire chipset.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>> I've been noticing that newer laptops that have a firewire port
>> are using these tiny little 4-pin ports... there are adaptor
>> cables for the 6-pin to 4-pin, but is it really the same
>> protocol? IOW, if you have an audio interface that has the
>> 6-pin, is it simply that you just use one of these adaptor
>> cables to get it into the 4-pin, smaller ports on a newer
>> laptop?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Yep..Big difference..Without the Portico engaged,renderd the base Cubase /Nuendo
sound..Engaged, Thick, balls round sound. This is what I get when I sum out
of Nuendo using the Soundcraft Ghost console..

Yeah, I would say this a keeper you..

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>OK, so this a song clip with & without the Portico Tape
>Simulator. I automated the bypass so that when I rendered the
>file it would insert & bypass the Portico in each different
>section, for comparision purposes.
>
>Now, this unit does NOT have an output control, it has an input
>drive/gain (which you have to optimze in order to drive the
>device at a certain level), and a Tape Saturation knob, and
>that's it as far as anything resembing a level control, so I
>was not able to achieve a "unity gain" scenario during the
>bypass vs. insert process. I even tried automating the 2-buss
>gain to drop a bit when the Portico was inserted, but you could
>still hear a difference - IOW, it's pretty apparent where the
>Portico kicks in, and there's no way to make this a scientific
>test, or if so, it would be really time-consuming to do so...
>so FUCK IT! LOL This is for your edification & demonstration
>purposes only... how's that? :D
>
>By the way, the saturation setting on this example is only at
>about a quarter of the way up... so it can indeed saturate more
>than what you're hearing, and frankly, I think I might back it
>off a tad bit from this examples settings in most cases... this
>setting just just seemed like a good place where you could hear
>the effect without it being overdone. The "tape speed"
>emulation is set at 15ips (7.5 starts rolling off too early for
>my taste). There is no 30ips - according to someone I talked to
>at Rupert Neve Designs, that setting would have so little
>effect as to be negligible, so they didn't include it.
>
>High-rez mp3 link is below:
>
> http://saqqararecords.com/MiscAudio/DiMakina-Panophobia-Port icoTapeSimABcomparison.mp3
>
>And public thanks once again the guys in DiMakina for giving me
>permission to use their tunes freely in demos like these.
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>Are you in direct monitoring mode?
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476db54a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Crap, I can't post any comparison clips of it right now,
>>> because I can't figure out how to bypass external EFX
>>> without having it mute everything. I was going to an A/B thing
>>> & automate the bypass, but when it bypasses, it disconnects the
>>> loop, and all audio disappears!
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong Deej? You've messed with external EFX in
>>> Cubase more than I have - any ideas?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you tell us what you really think? I'm
>>> =
>>>>tellin' ya' man, this little box was the major deciding factor in my
=
>>>>move from Paris to a native system. I strapped it across the mix bus
=
>>>>insert in Paris and dialed it in until I couldn't tell it was working
>or
>>> =
>>>>not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback of a Paris mix.. Then
>>> =
>>>>I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and strapped the 5042
>>> =
>>>>across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just blew
>>> =
>>>>me away. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was hearing on
>=
>>>>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even =
>>>>more/bigger.......plus suddenly I had all of the functionality of =
>>>>Cubase.
>>>>
>>>>My Paris gear went up for sale the next day. Not knockin' Paris =
>>>>guys.........I'm just reporting the facts here.
>>>>
>>>>I figured you'd like it.......;o)
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476b4c16$1@linux...
>>>>>=20
>>>>> OK, I just got it in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,
>>>>> and my initial impressions are confined to four simple
>>>>> words...
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Oh. My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have NEVER heard anything like this.
>>>>> This might be one of those "magic box" kinds of things, like
>>>>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the digiworld, perhaps.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I need to play with it some more, but holy shit, I am very
>>>>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't even
>>>>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried about
>>>>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment way
>>>>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in that
>>>>> range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't
>>>>> bother me one bit - at least so far.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>It's gonna round things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage
>=
>>>>without
>>>>>=20
>>>>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with Elephant
>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769dfc2$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote in message news:4769d354$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a 5042 on the way that I picked up at a good price...
>>>>>>>>> will report back once I have a chance to try it out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I predict that you will like it......a lot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it once
>>>>>>> I get familiar with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!.........so why don't you
>=
>>>>tell us what=20
>>>>you </FONT><EM>really </EM>think? I'm tellin' ya' man, this little box
>=
>>>>was the=20
>>>>major deciding factor in my move from Paris to a native system. I =
>>>>strapped it=20
>>>>across the mix bus insert in Paris and dialed it in until I =
>>>>couldn't tell=20
>>>>it was working or not when I enabled/disabled it during the playback
of
>>> =
>>>>a Paris=20
>>>>mix.. Then I imported those same tracks into a Cubase project and =
>>>>strapped the=20
>>>>5042 across the Cubase mix bus with the exact same settings and it just
>>> =
>>>><EM>blew=20
>>>>me away</EM>. A truly epiphonic moment. It was 90+% what I was =
>>>>hearing on=20
>>>>the Paris mix bus and could be further tweaked to sound even=20
>>>><STRONG><EM>more/bigger.......</EM></STRONG>plus suddenly I had all of
>=
>>>>the=20
>>>>functionality of Cubase.</DIV>
>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Paris gear went up for sale the next
>>> =
>>>>day. Not=20
>>>>knockin' Paris guys.........I'm just reporting the facts =
>>>>here.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured you'd like =
>>>>it.......;o)</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
>>>>DIV> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>OIUOI@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote
=
>>>>in message=20
>>>></FONT><A href=3D"news:476b4c16$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>news:476b4c16$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> OK, I =
>>>>just got it=20
>>>>in tonight & was just playing with it a bit,<BR>> and my initial=20
>>>>impressions are confined to four simple<BR>> words...<BR>> =
>>>><BR>> Oh.=20
>>>>My. Fucking. GAWD. !!!<BR>> <BR>> Holy shit, no kidding - I have =
>>>>NEVER=20
>>>>heard anything like this.<BR>> This might be one of those "magic box"
>=
>>>>kinds=20
>>>>of things, like<BR>> the Bedini B.A.S.E., but even better in the =
>>>>digiworld,=20
>>>>perhaps.<BR>> <BR>> I need to play with it some more, but holy =
>>>>shit, I am=20
>>>>very<BR>> impressed from the initial toying about with it. I don't=20
>>>>even<BR>> notice any high-end veiling, which I was really worried=20
>>>>about<BR>> considering the 15k rolloff - it's a very gentle treatment
>=
>>>>
>>>>way<BR>> up there, apparently. Either it's not doing much in =
>>>>that<BR>>=20
>>>>range, or it's doing something quite pleasing that doesn't<BR>> =
>>>>bother me one=20
>>>>bit - at least so far.<BR>> <BR>> Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
>>>>"DJ"=20
>>>><animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:<BR>>>It's gonna =
>>>>round=20
>>>>things a bit and "broaden/deepen" your soundstage without<BR>>=20
>>>><BR>>>you losing the center. Very subtle. Follow it up with=20
>>>>Elephant<BR>>>;o)<BR>>><BR>>>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>OIUOIU@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote
=
>>>>in message=20
>>>></FONT><A href=3D"news:4769dfc2$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>news:4769dfc2$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>...<BR>>>><BR>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ =
>>>>animas _ dot _=20
>>>>net> wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>"Neil" =
>>>><</FONT><A=20
>>>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOI@OI.com"><FONT face=3DArial =
>>>>size=3D2>OIUOI@OI.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote in message </FONT><A=20
>>>>href=3D"news:4769d354$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>news:4769d354$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2>...<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> I have a =
>>>>5042 on the=20
>>>>way that I picked up at a good price...<BR>>>>>> will =
>>>>report back=20
>>>>once I have a chance to try it=20
>>>>out.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=20
>>>>Neil<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>I predict that you will like =
>>>>
>>>>it......a=20
>>>>lot.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>;o)<BR>>>><BR>>&g=
>>>>t;>=20
>>>>I'll send you, or post, a clip of mix with & without it =
>>>>once<BR>>>>=20
>>>>I get familiar with it.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Neil=20
>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>></FONT></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Hey Neil,

I get what you're saying and I do use the presets, but what I'm talking =
about is completely different. the following is what I'm unhappy about:

Navigate to:

Devices>Device Setup>VST Audio System>ASIO Hammerfall DSP

On the right is the screen where you choose to enable/disable direct =
monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are shown. the port system =
name is shown and to it's right you can name the port in the Show As =
column. The Show As names cannot be saved in an 88.2 template and a =
44.1 template. No matter what template you save, the names in the Show =
As column and any ports you might want to choose to hide because you =
aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports =
33-64 when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when =
using 44.1 in my particular situation) will carry over no matter what =
the template/sample rate you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1, =
I've got all these ports showing up that I want to hide because they are =
of no possible use to me, they have double names because some of them =
correlate to totally different ports at 88.2 and they just tend to =
clutter up the I/O configurations that I want to be able to create =
quickly.

Using a dual boot system, one strictly for 44.1 and the other for 88.2 =
would solve this completely....and it's the only way I can see that =
would do this.

Regards,

Deej



"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476db9d5$1@linux...
>=20
> OK, look, here's the way you do it... if you go to the topbar
> menu & select: Devices/VST Connections & select
> either the "Inputs" or "Outputs" tab, you'll se a little teeny
> black window in the upper area that says "presets"; it has
> several stock presets that you can load using the drop-down
> arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you want to do
> is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the plus
> sign, just to the right of the little presets windowette...
> THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.
>=20
> Make one for 88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to
> 88.2 so you see all the lightpipe ports, name everything the
> way you want on the Input side (tab), then click the little
> folder icon with the plus sign in it, and save it as: "88k
> Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go over to the
> Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat the
> folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or what have
> you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course, your
> lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh the i/o's
> under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for VST
> inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". (in fact,
> you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k i/o
> template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so
> you may have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make
> sure you're seeing all of them).
>=20
> OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start naming your i/o's for
> the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as described
> above... then save one for the Input side & one under the
> output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.
>=20
> And there you have it!!!!!!!!! No muss, no fuss, no dual-
> partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to
> refresh your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k
> project & an 88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o
> templates!
>=20
> Neil
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking about the I/O assignments, I'm talking =
about
> =3D
>>I/O names and whether or not they are hidden or not in the device =3D
>>manager.............oh..nevermind........
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I get what you're saying and I do use =
the presets,=20
but what I'm talking about is completely different. the =
following&nbsp;&nbsp;is=20
what I'm unhappy about:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Navigate to:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Devices&gt;Device Setup&gt;VST Audio =
System&gt;ASIO=20
Hammerfall DSP</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the right is the screen where you =
choose to=20
enable/disable direct monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are =
shown.=20
the port system name is shown and to it's right you can name the =
port&nbsp;in=20
the <STRONG>S<EM>how As</EM></STRONG>&nbsp;column. The <EM><STRONG>Show=20
As</STRONG></EM>&nbsp; names cannot be saved in an 88.2 template and a =
44.1=20
template. No matter what template you save, the names in the =
<EM><STRONG>Show=20
As</STRONG></EM> column and any ports you might want to choose to hide =
because=20
you aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports =
33-64=20
when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when using =
44.1 in my=20
particular situation) will carry over no matter what the template/sample =
rate=20
you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1,&nbsp; I've got all these =
ports=20
showing up that I want to hide because they are of no possible use to =
me, they=20
have double names because some of them correlate to totally different =
ports at=20
88.2 and they just tend to clutter up the I/O configurations that I want =
to be=20
able to create quickly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using a dual boot system, one strictly =
for 44.1 and=20
the other for 88.2 would solve this completely....and it's the only way =
I can=20
see that would do this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>OIUOIU@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
</FONT><A href=3D"news:476db9d5$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:476db9d5$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; OK, =
look, here's=20
the way you do it... if you go to the topbar<BR>&gt; menu &amp; select:=20
Devices/VST Connections &amp; select<BR>&gt; either the "Inputs" or =
"Outputs"=20
tab, you'll se a little teeny<BR>&gt; black window in the upper area =
that says=20
"presets"; it has<BR>&gt; several stock presets that you can load using =
the=20
drop-down<BR>&gt; arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you =
want to=20
do<BR>&gt; is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the=20
plus<BR>&gt; sign, just to the right of the little presets =
windowette...<BR>&gt;=20
THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Make one =
for=20
88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to<BR>&gt; 88.2 so you see =
all the=20
lightpipe ports, name everything the<BR>&gt; way you want on the Input =
side=20
(tab), then click the little<BR>&gt; folder icon with the plus sign in =
it, and=20
save it as: "88k<BR>&gt; Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go =
over to=20
the<BR>&gt; Output tab &amp; name everything the way you want, repeat=20
the<BR>&gt; folder icon save procedure &amp; name it "88k Outsies" or =
what=20
have<BR>&gt; you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course,=20
your<BR>&gt; lightpipe i/o's will collapse down &amp; you can refresh =
the=20
i/o's<BR>&gt; under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for=20
VST<BR>&gt; inputs &amp; VST outputs - go to each one &amp; hit "reset". =
(in=20
fact,<BR>&gt; you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k =
i/o<BR>&gt;=20
template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so<BR>&gt; =
you may=20
have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make<BR>&gt; sure you're =
seeing=20
all of them).<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start =
naming=20
your i/o's for<BR>&gt; the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as=20
described<BR>&gt; above... then save one for the Input side &amp; one =
under=20
the<BR>&gt; output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
And there you have it!!!!!!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp; No muss, no fuss, no =
dual-<BR>&gt;=20
partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to<BR>&gt; =
refresh=20
your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k<BR>&gt; project =
&amp; an=20
88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o<BR>&gt; templates!<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
Neil<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; "Deej" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:noway@jose.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>noway@jose.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Wait!!!.....I'm not talking =
about the=20
I/O assignments, I'm talking about<BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt;&gt;I/O names and =
whether or=20
not they are hidden or not in the device=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&gt;manager.............oh..nevermind........ </FONT></BODY></H=
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------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C844EB.A423C4B0--Deej, but if you're clocked at 88.2k, those extra ports won't
even show up once you hit "reset" on your VST Inputs & Outputs.
I think this might be the issue in this case... you need to
refresh those i/o's & it'll detect the clockspeed & slice your
ADAT's in half - again, unless I'm just not understanding what
you're trying to accomplish.

Neil


"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Neil,
>
>I get what you're saying and I do use the presets, but what I'm talking
=
>about is completely different. the following is what I'm unhappy about:
>
>Navigate to:
>
>Devices>Device Setup>VST Audio System>ASIO Hammerfall DSP
>
>On the right is the screen where you choose to enable/disable direct =
>monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are shown. the port system
=
>name is shown and to it's right you can name the port in the Show As =
>column. The Show As names cannot be saved in an 88.2 template and a =
>44.1 template. No matter what template you save, the names in the Show =
>As column and any ports you might want to choose to hide because you =
>aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports =
>33-64 when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when =
>using 44.1 in my particular situation) will carry over no matter what =
>the template/sample rate you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1, =
>I've got all these ports showing up that I want to hide because they are
=
>of no possible use to me, they have double names because some of them =
>correlate to totally different ports at 88.2 and they just tend to =
>clutter up the I/O configurations that I want to be able to create =
>quickly.
>
>Using a dual boot system, one strictly for 44.1 and the other for 88.2 =
>would solve this completely....and it's the only way I can see that =
>would do this.
>
>Regards,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476db9d5$1@linux...
>>=20
>> OK, look, here's the way you do it... if you go to the topbar
>> menu & select: Devices/VST Connections & select
>> either the "Inputs" or "Outputs" tab, you'll se a little teeny
>> black window in the upper area that says "presets"; it has
>> several stock presets that you can load using the drop-down
>> arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you want to do
>> is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the plus
>> sign, just to the right of the little presets windowette...
>> THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.
>>=20
>> Make one for 88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to
>> 88.2 so you see all the lightpipe ports, name everything the
>> way you want on the Input side (tab), then click the little
>> folder icon with the plus sign in it, and save it as: "88k
>> Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go over to the
>> Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat the
>> folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or what have
>> you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course, your
>> lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh the i/o's
>> under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for VST
>> inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". (in fact,
>> you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k i/o
>> template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so
>> you may have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make
>> sure you're seeing all of them).
>>=20
>> OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start naming your i/o's for
>> the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as described
>> above... then save one for the Input side & one under the
>> output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.
>>=20
>> And there you have it!!!!!!!!! No muss, no fuss, no dual-
>> partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to
>> refresh your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k
>> project & an 88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o
>> templates!
>>=20
>> Neil
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking about the I/O assignments, I'm talking =
>about
>> =3D
>>>I/O names and whether or not they are hidden or not in the device =3D
>>>manager.............oh..nevermind........
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Neil,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I get what you're saying and I do use =
>the presets,=20
>but what I'm talking about is completely different. the =
>following  is=20
>what I'm unhappy about:</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Navigate to:</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Devices>Device Setup>VST Audio =
>System>ASIO=20
>Hammerfall DSP</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the right is the screen where you =
>choose to=20
>enable/disable direct monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are
=
>shown.=20
>the port system name is shown and to it's right you can name the =
>port in=20
>the <STRONG>S<EM>how As</EM></STRONG> column. The <EM><STRONG>Show=20
>As</STRONG></EM>  names cannot be saved in an 88.2 template and a =
>44.1=20
>template. No matter what template you save, the names in the =
><EM><STRONG>Show=20
>As</STRONG></EM> column and any ports you might want to choose to hide =
>because=20
>you aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports
=
>33-64=20
>when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when using =
>44.1 in my=20
>particular situation) will carry over no matter what the template/sample
=
>rate=20
>you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1,  I've got all these =
>ports=20
>showing up that I want to hide because they are of no possible use to =
>me, they=20
>have double names because some of them correlate to totally different =
>ports at=20
>88.2 and they just tend to clutter up the I/O configurations that I want
=
>to be=20
>able to create quickly.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using a dual boot system, one strictly
=
>for 44.1 and=20
>the other for 88.2 would solve this completely....and it's the only way
=
>I can=20
>see that would do this.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>OIUOIU@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>in message=20
></FONT><A href=3D"news:476db9d5$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>news:476db9d5$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> OK, =
>look, here's=20
>the way you do it... if you go to the topbar<BR>> menu & select:=20
>Devices/VST Connections & select<BR>> either the "Inputs" or =
>"Outputs"=20
>tab, you'll se a little teeny<BR>> black window in the upper area =
>that says=20
>"presets"; it has<BR>> several stock presets that you can load using =
>the=20
>drop-down<BR>> arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you =
>want to=20
>do<BR>> is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the=20
>plus<BR>> sign, just to the right of the little presets =
>windowette...<BR>>=20
>THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.<BR>> <BR>> Make one =
>for=20
>88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to<BR>> 88.2 so you see =
>all the=20
>lightpipe ports, name everything the<BR>> way you want on the Input =
>side=20
>(tab), then click the little<BR>> folder icon with the plus sign in =
>it, and=20
>save it as: "88k<BR>> Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go =
>over to=20
>the<BR>> Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat=20
>the<BR>> folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or =
>what=20
>have<BR>&g
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t; you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course,=20
>your<BR>> lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh =
>the=20
>i/o's<BR>> under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for=20
>VST<BR>> inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". =
>(in=20
>fact,<BR>> you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k =
>i/o<BR>>=20
>template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so<BR>> =
>you may=20
>have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make<BR>> sure you're =
>seeing=20
>all of them).<BR>> <BR>> OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start =
>naming=20
>your i/o's for<BR>> the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as=20
>described<BR>> above... then save one for the Input side & one =
>under=20
>the<BR>> output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
>And there you have it!!!!!!!!!   No muss, no fuss, no =
>dual-<BR>>=20
>partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to<BR>> =
>refresh=20
>your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k<BR>> project =
>& an=20
>88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o<BR>> templates!<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
>Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "Deej" <</FONT><A=20
>href=3D"mailto:noway@jose.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>noway@jose.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>=20
>wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking =
>about the=20
>I/O assignments, I'm talking about<BR>> =3D<BR>>>I/O names and =
>whether or=20
>not they are hidden or not in the device=20
>=3D<BR>>>manager.............oh..nevermind........</FONT ></BODY></H=
>TML>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476dfa44$1@linux...
>
> Deej, but if you're clocked at 88.2k, those extra ports won't
> even show up once you hit "reset" on your VST Inputs & Outputs.
> I think this might be the issue in this case... you need to
> refresh those i/o's & it'll detect the clockspeed & slice your
> ADAT's in half - again, unless I'm just not understanding what
> you're trying to accomplish.
>
> Neil


No matter whether you refresh or not, the double names will have to be used
and if you hide any unnecessary ports between #'s 1 & 32, in one or the
other config, your physical I/O will not line up properly unless you go back
into the menu and reset them to be shown. It's a royal PITA.
;o)

>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hey Neil,
>>
>>I get what you're saying and I do use the presets, but what I'm talking
> =
>>about is completely different. the following is what I'm unhappy about:
>>
>>Navigate to:
>>
>>Devices>Device Setup>VST Audio System>ASIO Hammerfall DSP
>>
>>On the right is the screen where you choose to enable/disable direct =
>>monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are shown. the port system
> =
>>name is shown and to it's right you can name the port in the Show As =
>>column. The Show As names cannot be saved in an 88.2 template and a =
>>44.1 template. No matter what template you save, the names in the Show =
>>As column and any ports you might want to choose to hide because you =
>>aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports =
>>33-64 when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when =
>>using 44.1 in my particular situation) will carry over no matter what =
>>the template/sample rate you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1, =
>>I've got all these ports showing up that I want to hide because they are
> =
>>of no possible use to me, they have double names because some of them =
>>correlate to totally different ports at 88.2 and they just tend to =
>>clutter up the I/O configurations that I want to be able to create =
>>quickly.
>>
>>Using a dual boot system, one strictly for 44.1 and the other for 88.2 =
>>would solve this completely....and it's the only way I can see that =
>>would do this.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476db9d5$1@linux...
>>>=20
>>> OK, look, here's the way you do it... if you go to the topbar
>>> menu & select: Devices/VST Connections & select
>>> either the "Inputs" or "Outputs" tab, you'll se a little teeny
>>> black window in the upper area that says "presets"; it has
>>> several stock presets that you can load using the drop-down
>>> arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you want to do
>>> is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the plus
>>> sign, just to the right of the little presets windowette...
>>> THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.
>>>=20
>>> Make one for 88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to
>>> 88.2 so you see all the lightpipe ports, name everything the
>>> way you want on the Input side (tab), then click the little
>>> folder icon with the plus sign in it, and save it as: "88k
>>> Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go over to the
>>> Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat the
>>> folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or what have
>>> you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course, your
>>> lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh the i/o's
>>> under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for VST
>>> inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". (in fact,
>>> you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k i/o
>>> template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so
>>> you may have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make
>>> sure you're seeing all of them).
>>>=20
>>> OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start naming your i/o's for
>>> the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as described
>>> above... then save one for the Input side & one under the
>>> output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.
>>>=20
>>> And there you have it!!!!!!!!! No muss, no fuss, no dual-
>>> partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to
>>> refresh your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k
>>> project & an 88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o
>>> templates!
>>>=20
>>> Neil
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking about the I/O assignments, I'm talking =
>>about
>>> =3D
>>>>I/O names and whether or not they are hidden or not in the device =3D
>>>>manager.............oh..nevermind........
>>
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>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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>><BODY>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Neil,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I get what you're saying and I do use =
>>the presets,=20
>>but what I'm talking about is completely different. the =
>>following is=20
>>what I'm unhappy about:</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Navigate to:</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Devices>Device Setup>VST Audio =
>>System>ASIO=20
>>Hammerfall DSP</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the right is the screen where you =
>>choose to=20
>>enable/disable direct monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are
> =
>>shown.=20
>>the port system name is shown and to it's right you can name the =
>>port in=20
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>>44.1=20
>>template. No matter what template you save, the names in the =
>><EM><STRONG>Show=20
>>As</STRONG></EM> column and any ports you might want to choose to hide =
>>because=20
>>you aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports
> =
>>33-64=20
>>when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when using =
>>44.1 in my=20
>>particular situation) will carry over no matter what the template/sample
> =
>>rate=20
>>you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1, I've got all these =
>>ports=20
>>showing up that I want to hide because they are of no possible use to =
>>me, they=20
>>have double names because some of them correlate to totally different =
>>ports at=20
>>88.2 and they just tend to clutter up the I/O configurations that I want
> =
>>to be=20
>>able to create quickly.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using a dual boot system, one strictly
> =
>>for 44.1 and=20
>>the other for 88.2 would solve this completely....and it's the only way
> =
>>I can=20
>>see that would do this.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>OIUOIU@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote =
>>in message=20
>></FONT><A href=3D"news:476db9d5$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>news:476db9d5$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> OK, =
>>look, here's=20
>>the way you do it... if you go to the topbar<BR>> menu & select:=20
>>Devices/VST Connections & select<BR>> either the "Inputs" or =
>>"Outputs"=20
>>tab, you'll se a little teeny<BR>> black window in the upper area =
>>that says=20
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>>the=20
>>drop-down<BR>> arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you =
>>want to=20
>>do<BR>> is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the=20
>>plus<BR>> sign, just to the right of the little presets =
>>windowette...<BR>>=20
>>THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.<BR>> <BR>> Make one =
>>for=20
>>88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to<BR>> 88.2 so you see =
>>all the=20
>>lightpipe ports, name everything the<BR>> way you want on the Input =
>>side=20
>>(tab), then click the little<BR>> folder icon with the plus sign in =
>>it, and=20
>>save it as: "88k<BR>> Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go =
>>over to=20
>>the<BR>> Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat=20
>>the<BR>> folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or =
>>what=20
>>have<BR>> you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course,=20
>>your<BR>> lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh =
>>the=20
>>i/o's<BR>> under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for=20
>>VST<BR>> inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". =
>>(in=20
>>fact,<BR>> you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k =
>>i/o<BR>>=20
>>template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so<BR>> =
>>you may=20
>>have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make<BR>> sure you're =
>>seeing=20
>>all of them).<BR>> <BR>> OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start =
>>naming=20
>>your i/o's for<BR>> the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as=20
>>described<BR>> above... then save one for the Input side & one =
>>under=20
>>the<BR>> output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.<BR>> =
>><BR>>=20
>>And there you have it!!!!!!!!! No muss, no fuss, no =
>>dual-<BR>>=20
>>partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to<BR>> =
>>refresh=20
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>>Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "Deej" <</FONT><A=20
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>>size=3D2>noway@jose.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>=20
>>wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking =
>>about the=20
>>I/O assignments, I'm talking about<BR>> =3D<BR>>>I/O names and =
>>whether or=20
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>>=3D<BR>>>manager.............oh..nevermind........</FONT ></BODY></H=
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>>
>>
>My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, and it's
time for makin' toons.

Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually an EDS
thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat poo.
Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in a PC
hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's all
black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that it seems
to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks *appear*
to be intact.

So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted them off,
and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I try using
the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC workclock,
so...?).

I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure is ok.
Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this error
was EDS-ish.

So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do you need
any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. Anyhow, I
had none, and same error.

I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has been swapped
out...

....ideas?

Cheers,
Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Hi Kim,
Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me 5 times!!!
Look at the pins and be sure they're straight. Use a different
one if you have one to swap with. Check it's pins too.

Next thoughts are, one eds - one 442 for hardware, nothing else.
Remove the default project and start Paris from the .exe only.
Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the tabs on the eds card.
Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI slot. Could be some muck there =
too.
Still getting 7/7 then swap the Mec with the 442 again.

Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! =20
Did I just say that again?

Maybe your eds is fried or maybe not.

First thoughts from a Paris Gutter Creepin' Mongral.
Tom

PS Last ditch effort reload Paris.





"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:476e03fb$1@linux...


My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, =
and it's
time for makin' toons.

Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually an =
EDS
thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat =
poo.
Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in a =
PC
hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's =
all
black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that it =
seems
to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
*appear*
to be intact.

So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted =
them off,
and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =
try using
the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC =
workclock,
so...?).

I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure is =
ok.
Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this =
error
was EDS-ish.

So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =
you need
any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
Anyhow, I
had none, and same error.

I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has =
been swapped
out...

...ideas?

Cheers,
Kim.


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------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C8450A.FF3A75F0--Tom,

I so love this group. I mean I could think things through for a while, but
the group will suggest things I've missed...

>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable.

The MEC and 442 were each plugged in to their own cable, so I used two cables
in this process. Not a complete test, but unlikely at this stage.

>Next thoughts are, one eds - one 442 for hardware, nothing else.

I tried that with one EDS, not the other I don't think, but given that every
combination yields the same error, seems unlikely that the other EDS would
do it with the MEC...?

>Remove the default project and start Paris from the .exe only.

Default project. Mmm. I'll do that in one moment... ;o)

>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the tabs on the eds card.

Tabs? What?! Something I haven't heard of?!? OutRAGEous! ;o)What on Earth
are they?

>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI slot. Could be some muck there =

This is second priority methinks. Master card on every occurrence of the
error was in the same PCI slot. That one didn't really cross my mind stupidly.
Could very easily be...

>Still getting 7/7 then swap the Mec with the 442 again.

Half done...

>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! =20
>Did I just say that again?

Yes, and I will, but default project right now... ;o)

Back in 5. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.Hi Kim,

I had the same thing happen to me in Windows 98 and XP if bus mastering was
turned on for my G400 video card. A newer driver fixed that in XP, but
I still have to have it off in 98.

You never know...

Mike

PS - as a total aside, I just read how IRQ sharing works in WDM drivers.
Every driver associated with an IRQ gets called, and ones that haven't actually
had an event happen for them check a parameter and exit after doing nothing.
I have no idea how a driver could screw with another one in this setup,
but it happened to me.


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Tom,
>
>I so love this group. I mean I could think things through for a while, but
>the group will suggest things I've missed...
>
>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable.
>
>The MEC and 442 were each plugged in to their own cable, so I used two cables
>in this process. Not a complete test, but unlikely at this stage.
>
>>Next thoughts are, one eds - one 442 for hardware, nothing else.
>
>I tried that with one EDS, not the other I don't think, but given that every
>combination yields the same error, seems unlikely that the other EDS would
>do it with the MEC...?
>
>>Remove the default project and start Paris from the .exe only.
>
>Default project. Mmm. I'll do that in one moment... ;o)
>
>>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the tabs on the eds card.
>
>Tabs? What?! Something I haven't heard of?!? OutRAGEous! ;o)What on Earth
>are they?
>
>>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI slot. Could be some muck there =
>
>This is second priority methinks. Master card on every occurrence of the
>error was in the same PCI slot. That one didn't really cross my mind stupidly.
>Could very easily be...
>
>>Still getting 7/7 then swap the Mec with the 442 again.
>
>Half done...
>
>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! =20
>>Did I just say that again?
>
>Yes, and I will, but default project right now... ;o)
>
>Back in 5. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.We had a bizarre storm or three in Melbourne last week, and in amongst them
a room at my brother's place was flooded fairly badly, in amongst which,
some speaker cabinets got rather wetter than ideal at the bottom.

It's chipboard and it's done the chipboard thing. In my opinion they're not
bad speakers though and if we can patch them at least to work correctly they'd
be worth saving.

Basically I'm after glue or filler info. We've got to fill 1/4 inch in places
so something silicon-like is probably ideal. Whatever they use on speaker
cabinets that is flexible enough to withstand vibration, air pressure, and
provide a strong bond all at once. That stuff.

What is it? ;o)

As always, any advice welcome... well, except clothing fashion, not that
you dress badly or anything. I mean I don't even know who I'm speaking to.
I seem to have forgotten I'm still speaking too. DOH!

;o)

Cheers,
Kim.>PS - as a total aside, I just read how IRQ sharing works in WDM drivers.
> Every driver associated with an IRQ gets called, and ones that haven't
actually
>had an event happen for them check a parameter and exit after doing nothing.
> I have no idea how a driver could screw with another one in this setup,
>but it happened to me.

Yeah I see your point. If they each get called in turn anyhow, then how does
it fail?

Perhaps it is only possible for a single "IRQ 9" to have a turn in any one
go. In that case it would mean:

(*) IRQ sharing between identical devices would be ok if coded properly so
that the driver checks all hardware it owns whenever it gets control. Then
ALL the EDS cards would be checked whenever just one of them made the request.
Mmm. :o) So then, for example, if we placed lots of devices on the same IRQ
the driver itself could really get a lot through the hardware... as in what
I believe happens in a MAGMA. ;o)

(*) IRQ sharing with a different device would cause problems if the IRQ was
reaching busy point where most of the IRQ driver calls were being used up.
This would normally need two high data throughput devices. Say... Video
and Sound, say, for example. ;o)

Yes, I think that would explain it. Could be wrong. It's a theory though.

Cheers,
Kim.Hi Kim,

>Perhaps it is only possible for a single "IRQ 9" to have a turn in any one
>go.

That could be true if:

1) There is only one cpu to handle the IRQ request and
2) One of the drivers then changes its IRQ Level in software to a high enough
level that nothing else can interrupt it. It could then "hog" the computer
until the other drivers have a buffer under or over run. I'm actually starting
to think that this is what the video drivers did/do in order to improve their
benchmark scores.

It's funny how much we've heard about preemptive multitasking in Windows
NT/2000/XP, when this can be completely subverted in drivers with almost
no effort.

This stuff is a lot of fun. :)

I hope you're able to solve the 7/7 issue. I've fought with that a few times
myself. It was always the video card driver for me, or my magma cable being
slightly loose.Steve,

Thanks for the response. I would have thought so, too. I constantly get this
message when I try to load any of the projects:

"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."

I have never seen this before. I assume it is MAC/PC related.

Thanks for the help.

Dave







"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>Dave-
>
>I may be hallucinating, but I swear I have projects that I started
>on my mac paris system that I open all the time on my XP
>paris system. I think the projects should be cross platform.
>
>I think.
>
>-steve
>
>
>
>
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>Is there a program that will take a MAC project file and convert it to
PC
>>format? I have a client that wants me to convert several PARIS (MAC) projects
>>to .WAV. I can read the sound files fine into a NEW project, but not the
>>project files themselves. I am running 2.1 with WIN98.
>>
>>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>Kim, I had a 7/7 when I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow the EDS
driver install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen the "?
audio device and did a right click/update driver from there = 7/7 error on
Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used the
"setup.exe", she booted rite up.

P4, XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16
Good luck and happy holidays
Rob

PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:476e03fb$1@linux...
>
>
> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, and
> it's
> time for makin' toons.
>
> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually an EDS
> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat poo.
> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in a PC
> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's all
> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that it
> seems
> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks *appear*
> to be intact.
>
> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted them
> off,
> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I try
> using
> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC
> workclock,
> so...?).
>
> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure is ok.
> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this error
> was EDS-ish.
>
> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do you
> need
> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. Anyhow, I
> had none, and same error.
>
> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has been
> swapped
> out...
>
> ...ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.There's a product called Elmer's Professional Wood Filler
(do they sell that brand over there?), or I think they may have
changed the name to Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Filler.
It really works great, I've used it on a couple of things like
doors that had dings & deep scratches, and on one cabinet door
that had one of the side wing panels broken off & had to be
re-glued, but also had some smaller pieces due to the break
that had cracked/split & needed to to be refilled... worked
really well, just fill, sand and (in this case) prime &
paint... you can't even tell.

It comes in tubes or plastic canisters, depending on the size
you need.

There are also things like wood stabilizers that are
specifically designed for rotted wood, but those are more
liquid in state - they're kinda more like a glue, I guess.
Dunno if you want to check into those, too?

HOWEVER, here's an easy homebrew remedy if you have access to a
chunk of scrap wood and a electric sander:

Get a paper cup & hold it underneath the drum sander to catch
the wood dust from the peice of scrap wood as it comes off
the drum... or if you have a circular sander or other kind of
hand sander just set the cup down on the ground & try & hold
the wood & sander so a least the majority of the wood dust is
being caught in the cup. then get some regular two-part epoxy,
mix it up, and as you're mixing it, pour in some of the
wood dust - about half of the total volume of the epoxy mix -
and there's your filler! Just don't use a scrap of plywood
for this since you'll be sanding some of the plywood glue into
the mix, as well. Hardwood works best for this, but you can
also use some pine or whatever you guys use for regular
construction lumber over there.

And actually, this method is ideal for fixing dings & gouges in
hardwoods, too, because if you've got a mahogany or rosewood
guitar/table/whatever, you may NEVER find a wood filler that'll
match the color exactly, but if you can find a piece of scrap
of the same kind of wood from yur local hardwood supplier, you
can mix the dust in with clear epoxy & create a repair that you
can't even tell is there. For hardwoods with streaks of color,
etc, you can get a chunk of a lighter & also a darker hardwood,
do the majority color first, fill, then let it dry 'til it's
in a sort of "gelatin" state, then use an Exacto knife to carve
out a bit of the filler along the grain's streaked lines, let
it dry all the way & fill those areas with the other color to
match the streaks!

Neil



"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>We had a bizarre storm or three in Melbourne last week, and in amongst them
>a room at my brother's place was flooded fairly badly, in amongst which,
>some speaker cabinets got rather wetter than ideal at the bottom.
>
>It's chipboard and it's done the chipboard thing. In my opinion they're
not
>bad speakers though and if we can patch them at least to work correctly
they'd
>be worth saving.
>
>Basically I'm after glue or filler info. We've got to fill 1/4 inch in places
>so something silicon-like is probably ideal. Whatever they use on speaker
>cabinets that is flexible enough to withstand vibration, air pressure, and
>provide a strong bond all at once. That stuff.
>
>What is it? ;o)
>
>As always, any advice welcome... well, except clothing fashion, not that
>you dress badly or anything. I mean I don't even know who I'm speaking to.
>I seem to have forgotten I'm still speaking too. DOH!
>
>;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.There's an epoxy-based product that the house restorers use to replace rotted
wood. Seems like it would work for you.

Here's one example:

https://www.ndic.com/systemthree/endrot_kit_order.asp

DCHi Paul,

I have, indeed, frequently thought about creating a one stop facility for
Audio/Video/Web Authoring/Etc. with a studio big enough to do a two or three
camera shoot while recording to multitrack. Either have all the people on
staff to do the other stuff or rent space to people with those skills.
The fly in the ointment is making the change from a basement Mom & Pop business
to having a commercial facility with commercial expenses. I've agonized
over that decision a few times in my nearly 20 year recording career. I
suppose I could try to coordinate all that stuff from my home but then I
would be getting farther and farther from what I actually KNOW how to do
- play and record music.

But hey - Thanks for the thoughts! And please have a great holiday!

gantt


Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Steve -
>
>Thanks for the reference. That is an informative article, and it made
>me think about how small service providers in this industry will
>survive. In particular, the situation Gantt posted about recently,
>where his small, professional studio business is dying. I hadn't
>really thought of this when he posted, but Byrne's article gave me the
>following idea.
>
>Using Gantt's situation - a small studio with diminishing prospects -
>I think Byrne's analysis of the 6 marketing models can apply. Here,
>the studio owner/operator has to view his product in the context of
>the bigger industry. As a pay-for-a-job service provider, his
>livelihood and growth are completely dependent on the musicians who
>need to have a recording made.
>
>On the other hand, looking at the real goals of a musician is where
>the opportunity awaits. The musician want to record his/her/their
>music, get a cd made, get some sales, get some opportunities to
>perform, get more sales, get a video made, get more sales, get more
>sales, and get more sales. So, what to do?
>
>Provide as many of the services to help the artist get more sales. If
>the artist is working to record tunes and needs help, have a network
>of musicians who can record parts. When the recordings are done, get
>the artwork together and have cd pressed. Have a collection of
>marketing solutions (cd baby, my space , etc.). Have relationships
>with booking agents to line up gigs. Have a partnership with a video
>services. In short, don't just book studio time, but rather, an entire
>marketing strategy.
>
>This would take a lot of work to get going if one is just starting
>from scratch, but a seasoned veteran like Gantt has contacts and
>relationships that probably make this a lot easier at this stage.
>Moreover, if he really doesn't want to get involved with an aspect of
>the "machine", say video production, just being able to recommend
>someone to handle that part of the process keeps the process flowing.
>
>I look in the back of trade mags like Mix, Tape Op, etc., and see lots
>of adds for recording, mastering and pressing studios offering their
>individual services, but I have never seen an add for a service
>offering the musician the total marketing package. A friend has tried
>to create something like this, called Vindisoft, but I think he has
>has some problems along the way, probably due to the attempt to build
>the entire machine from the ground up. Again, I think tempered
>expansion is a more logical approach, instead of just flipping a
>switch and trying to have the total package operating on day one.
>
>Well enough of my ramblings. Discuss amongst yourselves!
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>
>On 22 Dec 2007 19:35:43 +1000, "steve the artguy"
><artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>in wired. About the music industry and it's various permutations.
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_b yrne?currentPage=1
>Mike,

"I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money."

You recently tackled *FOUR* of the most esoteric programming tasks you will
ever encounter.

1. Fragile, template rich (generic) c++ classes UI control code

2. Undocumented, fragile inhouse markup language for UI specifications

2. Interacting in realtime with algorithms running on another CPU (the esp2)

3. Modifying and compiling ESP2 assembler with nothing more to go on than
previous examples....

You did it without documentation, and on the esp2 side no interactive debugging.
It either works or it blows the hell up.

The passion it takes to pull something like this off is huge. There's no
reason why you can't be pulling in 100-150K a year within two years if programming
is the way you want to go.

Chuck


"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Rod,
>
>I took two two intro CS courses at the University of Toronto. They were
>both in Java, but gave me a good foundation in object oriented code and
c
>style syntax. I then took a third course at York University, and that one
>was also in Java. Last summer, I spent two or 3 evenings with a friend
of
>mine who helped me make the leap to C++ by going over the PARIS code with
>me and explaining the differences between Java and C++.
>
>The course at York was actually the first class in a computer science degree
>that I could continue at at any time. I may finish it eventually. Right
>now, I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money.
>
>I bought my girlfriend a ring this morning. A special thanks goes out to
>everyone who sent me some cash - my bank account is $2200 lighter this afternoon!
>
>Cheers!
>
>Mike
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
>>Rod
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Kim,
>>>
>>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
>>you
>>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>>
>>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it
a
>>day
>>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started,
so
>>>I'm still making progress.
>>>
>>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors that
>>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>>
>>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>>>
>>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist
;o)
>>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us.
We
>>>owe
>>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>>
>>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare cash,
>>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>>>I'd
>>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>>
>>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
>>and
>>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>>>up.
>>>>
>>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris
Plugs
>>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>>
>>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
>>really
>>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks.
:o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been
=
>>>>>>throwing
>>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have the
>>>=
>>>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
>>=
>>>>>>five guys
>>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his work
>>>>=
>>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just try his plugs and you will be rewarded. Then reward Mike.
>>>>>>All done...
>>>>>>T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope all who download Mike's =
>>>>>>plugs donate=20
>>>>>>too. I know I've been throwing</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten
>>=
>>>>>>fold. =20
>>>>>>Even if you don't have the </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scratch
>>>=
>>>>>>anything=20
>>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is better than nothing. Mike =
>>>>>>could use some=20
>>>>>>love from more than the five guys</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that responded to the multiband =
>>>>>>comp. =20
>>>>>>The hours that go into his work is crazy.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just try his plugs and you will be
>=
>>>>>>rewarded. =20
>>>>>>Then reward Mike.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All done...</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
>>>=
>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>>Perhaps it is only possible for a single "IRQ 9" to have a turn in any one
>>go.
>
>That could be true if:

What if there's only a one bit flag in the OS still? Or something like that.
What if, say, there is a one bit flag (which is traditionally what an interrupt
gets) to indicate the IRQ which interrupted, and then just, say, a single
pointer variable which indicates which of the several devices on that IRQ
requested the interrupt. You would end up in a scenario where only the most
recent (or first depending on code) device to make a call was indicated.

I don't know how interrupts work on these Intel beasts, but I seem to recall
that the 6502 processors used a system like that...

....or not. ;o)

It seems to line up too well with the symptoms to be wrong, but anything
is possible...

Cheers,
Kim.Well a restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)

This image has been restored several times and worked every time.

PCI slot test is next methinks... and/or IRQ's...

Cheers,
Kim.


"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>Kim, I had a 7/7 when I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow the
EDS
>driver install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen the
"?
>audio device and did a right click/update driver from there = 7/7 error
on
>Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used the
>"setup.exe", she booted rite up.
>
>P4, XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16
>Good luck and happy holidays
>Rob
>
>PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:476e03fb$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, and

>> it's
>> time for makin' toons.
>>
>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually an
EDS
>> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat
poo.
>> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in a
PC
>> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's all
>> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that it

>> seems
>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks *appear*
>> to be intact.
>>
>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted them

>> off,
>> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I try

>> using
>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC
>> workclock,
>> so...?).
>>
>> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure is
ok.
>> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this error
>> was EDS-ish.
>>
>> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do you

>> need
>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. Anyhow,
I
>> had none, and same error.
>>
>> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has been

>> swapped
>> out...
>>
>> ...ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
There's no
>reason why you can't be pulling in 100-150K a year within two years if programming
>is the way you want to go.

Ya know, much as I can't stand the idea of programming at a desk all day...

....maybe I should learn some new languages. Really. ;o)

Anybody got any good book suggestions? ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.I've re-imaged the hdd with a known working image, which still doesn't work,
so all software-only solutions are pencilled off the list for now.

I also tried switching PCI slots. Now admittedly I used the other slot which
the other EDS was in, so if somehow they both blew then we'd still have trouble.
I'd guess that if more than one has blown then the whole board has blown,
or some BIOS thing may have changed.

But given I have tried two slots and reimaged the hdd...

....I'm starting to think the MB is fried. This MB has been nothing but trouble
after the first couple of weeks. It's been replaced twice and still acts
up. Maybe they don't like my Power Supply or something, but it's a Truepower.

Mmm.

Maybe I should just jump on ebay and find an appropriate second hand machine
with a 2 gig processor and just hand away my $250 and be fixed...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Kim,
>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me 5 times!!!
>Look at the pins and be sure they're straight. Use a different
>one if you have one to swap with. Check it's pins too.
>
>Next thoughts are, one eds - one 442 for hardware, nothing else.
>Remove the default project and start Paris from the .exe only.
>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the tabs on the eds card.
>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI slot. Could be some muck there =
>too.
>Still getting 7/7 then swap the Mec with the 442 again.
>
>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! =20
>Did I just say that again?
>
>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe not.
>
>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter Creepin' Mongral.
>Tom
>
>PS Last ditch effort reload Paris.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:476e03fb$1@linux...
>
>
> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, =
>and it's
> time for makin' toons.
>
> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually an
=
>EDS
> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat
=
>poo.
> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in a
=
>PC
> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's =
>all
> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that it
=
>seems
> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
>*appear*
> to be intact.
>
> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted =
>them off,
> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =
>try using
> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC =
>workclock,
> so...?).
>
> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure is
=
>ok.
> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this =
>error
> was EDS-ish.
>
> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =
>you need
> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
>Anyhow, I
> had none, and same error.
>
> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has =
>been swapped
> out...
>
> ...ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Kim,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>burned me 5=20
>times!!!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look at the pins and be sure they're=20
>straight. Use a different</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>one if you have one to swap with. =
>Check it's=20
>pins too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next thoughts are, one eds - one =
>442 for=20
>hardware, nothing else.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remove the default project and start =
>Paris from the=20
>.exe only.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the =
>tabs on the=20
>eds card.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI =
>slot. =20
>Could be some muck there too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 then swap =
>the Mec with the=20
>442 again.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>burned me=20
>and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did I just say that again?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe =
>not.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter =
>Creepin'=20
>Mongral.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS Last ditch effort reload =
>Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>My=20
> system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, and=20
> it's<BR>time for makin' toons.<BR><BR>Today I've gone fault finding. =
>I'd been=20
> told this error was usually an EDS<BR>thing, so I've ripped (gently =
>;o) the=20
> cards out. One had a little rat poo.<BR>Both look kinda warped after =
>standing=20
> horizontal with no support in a PC<BR>hanging on by the PCI slot and =
>screw,=20
> and one has a point where it's all<BR>black, and tracks may be burnt.
=
>Later=20
> tooth brush work reveals that it seems<BR>to be "just" some corrosive
=
>stuff on=20
> the surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>to be intact.<BR><BR>So I've =
>cleaned=20
> them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted them off,<BR>and =
>put them=20
> back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I try =
>using<BR>the 442=20
> not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC=20
> workclock,<BR>so...?).<BR><BR>I've already swapped out the C16 with =
>one Deej=20
> sent which I'm sure is ok.<BR>Would be very odd to have the same error
=
>on=20
> both, and I thought this error<BR>was EDS-ish.<BR><BR>So I then try =
>one EDS,=20
> then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do you need<BR>any header =
>multi-card=20
> cables on a single card system? I forget. Anyhow, I<BR>had none, and =
>same=20
> error.<BR><BR>I'm starting to think this is software because =
>everything else=20
> has been =
>swapped<BR>out...<BR><BR>...ideas?<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR >Kim.</BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
>you?<BR><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>Yeah! I need someone like that right now. We're rehearsing for our 2nd CD
now, and I still have a closet full of boxes of the 1st one. :) Not that I
don't have ideas for promotion and marketing, but my focus (obsession?) is
on the creation of the project, and I wind up without the time or energy for
the promotional things.

S

"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9eaqm3l2dper4u0tfspi7r2b5cidgneuj1@4ax.com...
> Steve -
>
> Thanks for the reference. That is an informative article, and it made
> me think about how small service providers in this industry will
> survive. In particular, the situation Gantt posted about recently,
> where his small, professional studio business is dying. I hadn't
> really thought of this when he posted, but Byrne's article gave me the
> following idea.
>
> Using Gantt's situation - a small studio with diminishing prospects -
> I think Byrne's analysis of the 6 marketing models can apply. Here,
> the studio owner/operator has to view his product in the context of
> the bigger industry. As a pay-for-a-job service provider, his
> livelihood and growth are completely dependent on the musicians who
> need to have a recording made.
>
> On the other hand, looking at the real goals of a musician is where
> the opportunity awaits. The musician want to record his/her/their
> music, get a cd made, get some sales, get some opportunities to
> perform, get more sales, get a video made, get more sales, get more
> sales, and get more sales. So, what to do?
>
> Provide as many of the services to help the artist get more sales. If
> the artist is working to record tunes and needs help, have a network
> of musicians who can record parts. When the recordings are done, get
> the artwork together and have cd pressed. Have a collection of
> marketing solutions (cd baby, my space , etc.). Have relationships
> with booking agents to line up gigs. Have a partnership with a video
> services. In short, don't just book studio time, but rather, an entire
> marketing strategy.
>
> This would take a lot of work to get going if one is just starting
> from scratch, but a seasoned veteran like Gantt has contacts and
> relationships that probably make this a lot easier at this stage.
> Moreover, if he really doesn't want to get involved with an aspect of
> the "machine", say video production, just being able to recommend
> someone to handle that part of the process keeps the process flowing.
>
> I look in the back of trade mags like Mix, Tape Op, etc., and see lots
> of adds for recording, mastering and pressing studios offering their
> individual services, but I have never seen an add for a service
> offering the musician the total marketing package. A friend has tried
> to create something like this, called Vindisoft, but I think he has
> has some problems along the way, probably due to the attempt to build
> the entire machine from the ground up. Again, I think tempered
> expansion is a more logical approach, instead of just flipping a
> switch and trying to have the total package operating on day one.
>
> Well enough of my ramblings. Discuss amongst yourselves!
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>
> On 22 Dec 2007 19:35:43 +1000, "steve the artguy"
> <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>in wired. About the music industry and it's various permutations.
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_b yrne?currentPage=1
>In a recent thread here that had a question come up with regard
to jitter, I mentioned that Bob Katz pointed out in his book
that Firewire tended to be more prone to jitter. Since I've
been shopping around for a laptop - mainly for general office-
type use (do
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cuments, spreadsheets, etc), but would also like to
have the option of using it for audio should the need arise, I
thought I'd try e-mailing him with a question about UBS vs.
Firewire jitter... he responded pretty quickly, I must say, and
I thought I'd post his answer in case it might be helpful to
anyone else here, whether they're using such an interface for
laptop, or desktop use:

<begin paste of my question & his reply>
Hi Bob...
I am in the process of reading your Mastering Audio book, and I
noticed that you mention in there that Firewire tends to be
more jitter-prone. If I'm looking for a mobile solution (for
remote recording into a laptop), do you feel that the USB 2.0
protocol is better than Firewire? Worse? Not much different?

HI, NEIL. Thanks for writing.
What you need is an interface which provides a stable clock to
the converters and does not get its clock from the Firewire OR
the USB. Look to companies that specialize in high quality
conversion first and are aware of these issues. When in doubt,
quiz the company engineers (not just the sales people), don't
just take their advertising for granted.

I hope this helps,

Bob
<end paste>

I don't know of any offhand that specifically get their clock
from either internally or externally, as opposed to from the FW
or USB port itself, xcept for the RME Fireface 400 & 800, which
can be externally-clocked; but now we at least know what to
look for for best audio quality when using these types of
interfaces (interfascia?) :)

NeilIME, LOTS of bands/artists could use someone like that...
problem is who are they? Not the artists, but the people that
can provide all that... kinda like a vertically-ingetrated
marketing solution? I'm sure there are some people who are
trying or have tried it, but methinks you end up being a jack
of all musically-associated trades & a master of none if you go
that route.

Neil


"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Yeah! I need someone like that right now. We're rehearsing for our 2nd
CD
>now, and I still have a closet full of boxes of the 1st one. :) Not that
I
>don't have ideas for promotion and marketing, but my focus (obsession?)
is
>on the creation of the project, and I wind up without the time or energy
for
>the promotional things.
>
>S
>
>"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:9eaqm3l2dper4u0tfspi7r2b5cidgneuj1@4ax.com...
>> Steve -
>>
>> Thanks for the reference. That is an informative article, and it made
>> me think about how small service providers in this industry will
>> survive. In particular, the situation Gantt posted about recently,
>> where his small, professional studio business is dying. I hadn't
>> really thought of this when he posted, but Byrne's article gave me the
>> following idea.
>>
>> Using Gantt's situation - a small studio with diminishing prospects -
>> I think Byrne's analysis of the 6 marketing models can apply. Here,
>> the studio owner/operator has to view his product in the context of
>> the bigger industry. As a pay-for-a-job service provider, his
>> livelihood and growth are completely dependent on the musicians who
>> need to have a recording made.
>>
>> On the other hand, looking at the real goals of a musician is where
>> the opportunity awaits. The musician want to record his/her/their
>> music, get a cd made, get some sales, get some opportunities to
>> perform, get more sales, get a video made, get more sales, get more
>> sales, and get more sales. So, what to do?
>>
>> Provide as many of the services to help the artist get more sales. If
>> the artist is working to record tunes and needs help, have a network
>> of musicians who can record parts. When the recordings are done, get
>> the artwork together and have cd pressed. Have a collection of
>> marketing solutions (cd baby, my space , etc.). Have relationships
>> with booking agents to line up gigs. Have a partnership with a video
>> services. In short, don't just book studio time, but rather, an entire
>> marketing strategy.
>>
>> This would take a lot of work to get going if one is just starting
>> from scratch, but a seasoned veteran like Gantt has contacts and
>> relationships that probably make this a lot easier at this stage.
>> Moreover, if he really doesn't want to get involved with an aspect of
>> the "machine", say video production, just being able to recommend
>> someone to handle that part of the process keeps the process flowing.
>>
>> I look in the back of trade mags like Mix, Tape Op, etc., and see lots
>> of adds for recording, mastering and pressing studios offering their
>> individual services, but I have never seen an add for a service
>> offering the musician the total marketing package. A friend has tried
>> to create something like this, called Vindisoft, but I think he has
>> has some problems along the way, probably due to the attempt to build
>> the entire machine from the ground up. Again, I think tempered
>> expansion is a more logical approach, instead of just flipping a
>> switch and trying to have the total package operating on day one.
>>
>> Well enough of my ramblings. Discuss amongst yourselves!
>>
>> - Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2007 19:35:43 +1000, "steve the artguy"
>> <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>in wired. About the music industry and it's various permutations.
>>>
>>> http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_b yrne?currentPage=1
>>
>
>Thanks guys. I'll pass these on.

I'm especially a fan of Neil's homemade epoxy idea. Wood Fibre Glass. Given
the obvious strength and bonding power of such a thing it might be the ticket.

But I'll pass it all on and a plan will be made.

You guys do rock. Oh, and they're the same brand and range of speakers that
I used to mix with Paris on, so no, there's no real Paris link without making
something up...

....but it's audio. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.


"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>There's an epoxy-based product that the house restorers use to replace rotted
>wood. Seems like it would work for you.
>
>Here's one example:
>
>https://www.ndic.com/systemthree/endrot_kit_order.asp
>
>DC
>Heck, I have no idea, then. Hey, did u get a chance to listen
to the Portico Tape Sim clip I posted?

Neil



"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476dfa44$1@linux...
>>
>> Deej, but if you're clocked at 88.2k, those extra ports won't
>> even show up once you hit "reset" on your VST Inputs & Outputs.
>> I think this might be the issue in this case... you need to
>> refresh those i/o's & it'll detect the clockspeed & slice your
>> ADAT's in half - again, unless I'm just not understanding what
>> you're trying to accomplish.
>>
>> Neil
>
>
>No matter whether you refresh or not, the double names will have to be used

>and if you hide any unnecessary ports between #'s 1 & 32, in one or the

>other config, your physical I/O will not line up properly unless you go
back
>into the menu and reset them to be shown. It's a royal PITA.
>;o)
>
>>
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hey Neil,
>>>
>>>I get what you're saying and I do use the presets, but what I'm talking
>> =
>>>about is completely different. the following is what I'm unhappy about:
>>>
>>>Navigate to:
>>>
>>>Devices>Device Setup>VST Audio System>ASIO Hammerfall DSP
>>>
>>>On the right is the screen where you choose to enable/disable direct =
>>>monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are shown. the port system
>> =
>>>name is shown and to it's right you can name the port in the Show As =
>>>column. The Show As names cannot be saved in an 88.2 template and a =
>>>44.1 template. No matter what template you save, the names in the Show
=
>>>As column and any ports you might want to choose to hide because you =
>>>aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports =
>>>33-64 when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when
=
>>>using 44.1 in my particular situation) will carry over no matter what
=
>>>the template/sample rate you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1,
=
>>>I've got all these ports showing up that I want to hide because they are
>> =
>>>of no possible use to me, they have double names because some of them
=
>>>correlate to totally different ports at 88.2 and they just tend to =
>>>clutter up the I/O configurations that I want to be able to create =
>>>quickly.
>>>
>>>Using a dual boot system, one strictly for 44.1 and the other for 88.2
=
>>>would solve this completely....and it's the only way I can see that =
>>>would do this.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476db9d5$1@linux...
>>>>=20
>>>> OK, look, here's the way you do it... if you go to the topbar
>>>> menu & select: Devices/VST Connections & select
>>>> either the "Inputs" or "Outputs" tab, you'll se a little teeny
>>>> black window in the upper area that says "presets"; it has
>>>> several stock presets that you can load using the drop-down
>>>> arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you want to do
>>>> is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the plus
>>>> sign, just to the right of the little presets windowette...
>>>> THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.
>>>>=20
>>>> Make one for 88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to
>>>> 88.2 so you see all the lightpipe ports, name everything the
>>>> way you want on the Input side (tab), then click the little
>>>> folder icon with the plus sign in it, and save it as: "88k
>>>> Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go over to the
>>>> Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat the
>>>> folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or what have
>>>> you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course, your
>>>> lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh the i/o's
>>>> under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for VST
>>>> inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". (in fact,
>>>> you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k i/o
>>>> template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so
>>>> you may have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make
>>>> sure you're seeing all of them).
>>>>=20
>>>> OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start naming your i/o's for
>>>> the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as described
>>>> above... then save one for the Input side & one under the
>>>> output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.
>>>>=20
>>>> And there you have it!!!!!!!!! No muss, no fuss, no dual-
>>>> partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to
>>>> refresh your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k
>>>> project & an 88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o
>>>> templates!
>>>>=20
>>>> Neil
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking about the I/O assignments, I'm talking =
>>>about
>>>> =3D
>>>>>I/O names and whether or not they are hidden or not in the device =3D
>>>>>manager.............oh..nevermind........
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Neil,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I get what you're saying and I do use
=
>>>the presets,=20
>>>but what I'm talking about is completely different. the =
>>>following is=20
>>>what I'm unhappy about:</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Navigate to:</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Devices>Device Setup>VST Audio =
>>>System>ASIO=20
>>>Hammerfall DSP</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On the right is the screen where you
=
>>>choose to=20
>>>enable/disable direct monitoring. Below that is where the I/O ports are
>> =
>>>shown.=20
>>>the port system name is shown and to it's right you can name the =
>>>port in=20
>>>the <STRONG>S<EM>how As</EM></STRONG> column. The <EM><STRONG>Show=20
>>>As</STRONG></EM> names cannot be saved in an 88.2 template and a =
>>>44.1=20
>>>template. No matter what template you save, the names in the =
>>><EM><STRONG>Show=20
>>>As</STRONG></EM> column and any ports you might want to choose to hide
=
>>>because=20
>>>you aren't using them in 44.1 mode (MF ADAT ports 4-8 and and MADI ports
>> =
>>>33-64=20
>>>when using 88.2 and MADI ADAT ports 9-16 and 25 through 32 when using
=
>>>44.1 in my=20
>>>particular situation) will carry over no matter what the template/sample
>> =
>>>rate=20
>>>you save/use. Well, if I'm working at 44.1, I've got all these =
>>>ports=20
>>>showing up that I want to hide because they are of no possible use to
=
>>>me, they=20
>>>have double names because some of them correlate to totally different
=
>>>ports at=20
>>>88.2 and they just tend to clutter up the I/O configurations that I want
>> =
>>>to be=20
>>>able to create quickly.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using a dual boot system, one strictly
>> =
>>>for 44.1 and=20
>>>the other for 88.2 would solve this completely....and it's the only way
>> =
>>>I can=20
>>>see that would do this.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Neil" <</FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"mailto:OIUOIU@OIU.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>OIUOIU@OIU.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> wrote
=
>>>in message=20
>>></FONT><A href=3D"news:476db9d5$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>news:476db9d5$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> OK, =
>>>look, here's=20
>>>the way you do it... if you go to the topbar<BR>> menu & select:=20
>>>Devices/VST Connections & select<BR>> either the "Inputs" or =
>>>"Outputs"=20
>>>tab, you'll se a little teeny<BR>> black window in the upper area =
>>>that says=20
>>>"presets"; it has<BR>> several stock presets that you can load using =
>>>the=20
>>>drop-down<BR>> arrow on the right-hand side of that, but what you =
>>>want to=20
>>>do<BR>> is note the little - even teensier - folder icon with the=20
>>>plus<BR>> sign, just to the right of the little presets =
>>>windowette...<BR>>=20
>>>THAT's how you save your i/o preset templates.<BR>> <BR>> Make one =
>>>for=20
>>>88.2k first, ensuring that your clock is set to<BR>> 88.2 so you see =
>>>all the=20
>>>lightpipe ports, name everything the<BR>> way you want on the Input =
>>>side=20
>>>(tab), then click the little<BR>> folder icon with the plus sign in =
>>>it, and=20
>>>save it as: "88k<BR>> Insies" or whatever makes sense to you, then go
=
>>>over to=20
>>>the<BR>> Output tab & name everything the way you want, repeat=20
>>>the<BR>> folder icon save procedure & name it "88k Outsies" or =
>>>what=20
>>>have<BR>> you... THEN reclock to 44.1k. At this point, of course,=20
>>>your<BR>> lightpipe i/o's will collapse down & you can refresh =
>>>the=20
>>>i/o's<BR>> under "Devices/Device Setup", then look down the list for=20
>>>VST<BR>> inputs & VST outputs - go to each one & hit "reset". =
>>>(in=20
>>>fact,<BR>> you may want to do this even before you do the 88.2k =
>>>i/o<BR>>=20
>>>template - i keep forgetting you're not exclusively on 88.2, so<BR>> =
>>>you may=20
>>>have to reset/refresh before you start, just to make<BR>> sure you're
=
>>>seeing=20
>>>all of them).<BR>> <BR>> OK, once you've done that at 44.1k, start =
>>>naming=20
>>>your i/o's for<BR>> the 44.1k versions of what you just saved, as=20
>>>described<BR>> above... then save one for the Input side & one =
>>>under=20
>>>the<BR>> output tab, each with it's own name, appropriately.<BR>> =
>>><BR>>=20
>>>And there you have it!!!!!!!!! No muss, no fuss, no =
>>>dual-<BR>>=20
>>>partitioning needed. ALl you'll have to make sure you do is to<BR>> =
>>>refresh=20
>>>your VST connections each time you go between a 44.1k<BR>> project =
>>>& an=20
>>>88.2k one, then pull up the your saved i/o<BR>> templates!<BR>> =
>>><BR>>=20
>>>Neil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "Deej" <</FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"mailto:noway@jose.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2>noway@jose.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>=20
>>>wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>Wait!!!.....I'm not talking =
>>>about the=20
>>>I/O assignments, I'm talking about<BR>> =3D<BR>>>I/O names and =
>>>whether or=20
>>>not they are hidden or not in the device=20
>>>=3D<BR>>>manager.............oh..nevermind........</FONT ></BODY></H=
>>>TML>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Thanks for these kind words, Chuck. I really appreciate them. I had some
pretty good example code to learn from, though. I can't imagine what you
went through. As for a programming career, we'll see how things turn out.
My teaching contract is up at the end of January, and then I'll spend some
time thinking about my next steps.

I'm having a really good time reading about WDM drivers. That is some awesome
complexity! It's not as complex as Sanskrit was, but it's still pretty awesome.
:)

Mike




"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Mike,
>
>"I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money."
>
>You recently tackled *FOUR* of the most esoteric programming tasks you will
>ever encounter.
>
>1. Fragile, template rich (generic) c++ classes UI control code
>
>2. Undocumented, fragile inhouse markup language for UI specifications
>
>2. Interacting in realtime with algorithms running on another CPU (the esp2)
>
>3. Modifying and compiling ESP2 assembler with nothing more to go on than
>previous examples....
>
>You did it without documentation, and on the esp2 side no interactive debugging.
>It either works or it blows the hell up.
>
>The passion it takes to pull something like this off is huge. There's no
>reason why you can't be pulling in 100-150K a year within two years if programming
>is the way you want to go.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Rod,
>>
>>I took two two intro CS courses at the University of Toronto. They were
>>both in Java, but gave me a good foundation in object oriented code and
>c
>>style syntax. I then took a third course at York University, and that
one
>>was also in Java. Last summer, I spent two or 3 evenings with a friend
>of
>>mine who helped me make the leap to C++ by going over the PARIS code with
>>me and explaining the differences between Java and C++.
>>
>>The course at York was actually the first class in a computer science degree
>>that I could continue at at any time. I may finish it eventually. Right
>>now, I just need to get a career off the ground and make some money.
>>
>>I bought my girlfriend a ring this morning. A special thanks goes out to
>>everyone who sent me some cash - my bank account is $2200 lighter this
afternoon!
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Mike...so what specific classes did you take at the University for programming?
>>>Rod
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Kim,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks so much for the money you sent (which you shouldn't have - I owe
>>>you
>>>>just as much if not more for this site!). It's been a lot of work putting
>>>>these together, and it has also been a lot of fun.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not taking a day off a week right now because I got a 3 month teaching
>>>>contract, though I did do that for a few months. I may be back at it
>a
>>>day
>>>>a week in February when the contract is over. That's slowed development
>>>>a bit, but I've managed the reverb and the multiband since I started,
>so
>>>>I'm still making progress.
>>>>
>>>>I appreciate the help. I must be insane, but I literally took 3 university
>>>>courses for the sole purpose of working PARIS. It's opened up doors
that
>>>>made me non-paris money, but I do appreciate any help people can provide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm really glad to hear that the multiband is a hit!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, donate to Mike!
>>>>>
>>>>>I just threw him much belated cash, especially for this latest work.
>>>>>
>>>>>No need to donate to me (well, I mean, like, well, unless you insist
>;o)
>>>>>but Mike is actually taking a day off work a week to do this for us.
>We
>>>>owe
>>>>>it to him to make sure he gets that lost cash back and some.
>>>>>
>>>>>He's the man and deserves some support. It's a tough time for spare
cash,
>>>>>sure, but if more people went to the effort of donating to donationware
>>>>I'd
>>>>>bet there would be a lot more of it about.
>>>>>
>>>>>And look at it this way... better that you give him $10 than nothing,
>>>and
>>>>>surely there are lots of people who are willing to do that. It all adds
>>>>up.
>>>>>
>>>>>But don't stop there... we've got TV's, Dishwashers, and more Paris
>Plugs
>>>>>all going out at crrrrrrraaaaaaazy prices!
>>>>>
>>>>>Seriously, he's taken a big risk for us. Whatever you can afford. He's
>>>really
>>>>>pushing things along and he does deserve a Merry Christmas methinks.
>:o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes I need to and to Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I;d love a new delay for Paris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope all who download Mike's plugs donate too. I know I've been
>=
>>>>>>>throwing
>>>>>>>$25/plug and feel it's worth it ten fold. Even if you don't have
the
>>>>=
>>>>>>>scratch anything=20
>>>>>>>is better than nothing. Mike could use some love from more than the
>>>=
>>>>>>>five guys
>>>>>>>that responded to the multiband comp. The hours that go into his
work
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>is crazy.
>>>>>>>
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Hey Kim,

By 'tabs' I mean the male portion of the eds card that slips
into the PCI slot. I've read that a standard pencil eraser can clean
then them appropriately. If your deduction is hardware then
triple check the SCSI cables. I had to say it again. And try another=20
PCI slot again with a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.

Mobo maybe?

Good luck,
Tom




"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:476ece88$1@linux...


Well a restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)

This image has been restored several times and worked every time.

PCI slot test is next methinks... and/or IRQ's...

Cheers,
Kim.


"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>Kim, I had a 7/7 when I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow =
the
EDS=20
>driver install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen =
the
"?=20
>audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =3D 7/7 =
error
on=20
>Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used =
the=20
>"setup.exe", she booted rite up.
>
>P4, XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16
>Good luck and happy holidays
>Rob
>
>PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:476e03fb$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, =
and

>> it's
>> time for makin' toons.
>>
>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually =
an
EDS
>> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little =
rat
poo.
>> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in =
a
PC
>> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where =
it's all
>> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that =
it

>> seems
>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
*appear*
>> to be intact.
>>
>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted =
them

>> off,
>> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =
try

>> using
>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC=20
>> workclock,
>> so...?).
>>
>> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure =
is
ok.
>> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought =
this error
>> was EDS-ish.
>>
>> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =
you

>> need
>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
Anyhow,
I
>> had none, and same error.
>>
>> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has =
been

>> swapped
>> out...
>>
>> ...ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.=20
>
>



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Kim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By 'tabs'&nbsp;I mean the male portion =
of the eds=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>into the PCI slot.&nbsp; I've read that =
a standard=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then them appropriately.&nbsp; If your =
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hardware then</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>triple check the SCSI cables.&nbsp; I =
had to say it=20
again.&nbsp; And try another </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PCI </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>slot again with=20
a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mobo maybe?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:476ece88$1@linux">news:476ece88$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
Well a=20
restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)<BR><BR>This image has =
been=20
restored several times and worked every time.<BR><BR>PCI slot test is =
next=20
methinks...&nbsp; and/or =
IRQ's...<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Rob=20
Arsenault" &lt;mani1147athotmaildotcom&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;Kim, I had a =
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I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow the<BR>EDS =
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the<BR>"?=20
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folder=20
and used the <BR>&gt;"setup.exe", she booted rite =
up.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;P4,=20
XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16<BR>&gt;Good luck and happy=20
holidays<BR>&gt;Rob<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you =
keep this=20
place alive old chap.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;"Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;<B=
R>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough,=20
and<BR><BR>&gt;&gt; it's<BR>&gt;&gt; time for makin'=20
toons.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been =
told=20
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(gently ;o)=20
the cards out. One had a little rat<BR>poo.<BR>&gt;&gt; Both look =
kinda warped=20
after standing horizontal with no support in a<BR>PC<BR>&gt;&gt; =
hanging on by=20
the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's all<BR>&gt;&gt; =
black,=20
and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that=20
it<BR><BR>&gt;&gt; seems<BR>&gt;&gt; to be "just" some corrosive stuff =
on the=20
surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>&gt;&gt; to be=20
intact.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; So I've cleaned them both up, reseated =
the=20
daughter boards, dusted them<BR><BR>&gt;&gt; off,<BR>&gt;&gt; and put =
them=20
back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =
try<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;=20
using<BR>&gt;&gt; the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was =
still on=20
the MEC <BR>&gt;&gt; workclock,<BR>&gt;&gt; =
so...?).<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure=20
is<BR>ok.<BR>&gt;&gt; Would be very odd to have the same error on =
both, and I=20
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I then=20
try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =
you<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;=20
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I=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C845AD.E0CAB960--If I understand him (which I may not) it sounds like he is saying that
the interface should be clocked to itself, not getting clock from the
computer via USB or FW.

Neil wrote:
> In a recent thread here that had a question come up with regard
> to jitter, I mentioned that Bob Katz pointed out in his book
> that Firewire tended to be more prone to jitter. Since I've
> been shopping around for a laptop - mainly for general office-
> type use (documents, spreadsheets, etc), but would also like to
> have the option of using it for audio should the need arise, I
> thought I'd try e-mailing him with a question about UBS vs.
> Firewire jitter... he responded pretty quickly, I must say, and
> I thought I'd post his answer in case it might be helpful to
> anyone else here, whether they're using such an interface for
> laptop, or desktop use:
>
> <begin paste of my question & his reply>
> Hi Bob...
> I am in the process of reading your Mastering Audio book, and I
> noticed that you mention in there that Firewire tends to be
> more jitter-prone. If I'm looking for a mobile solution (for
> remote recording into a laptop), do you feel that the USB 2.0
> protocol is better than Firewire? Worse? Not much different?
>
> HI, NEIL. Thanks for writing.
> What you need is an interface which provides a stable clock to
> the converters and does not get its clock from the Firewire OR
> the USB. Look to companies that specialize in high quality
> conversion first and are aware of these issues. When in doubt,
> quiz the company engineers (not just the sales people), don't
> just take their advertising for granted.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Bob
> <end paste>
>
> I don't know of any offhand that specifically get their clock
> from either internally or externally, as opposed to from the FW
> or USB port itself, xcept for the RME Fireface 400 & 800, which
> can be externally-clocked; but now we at least know what to
> look for for best audio quality when using these types of
> interfaces (interfascia?) :)
>
> NeilI've got my old Pioneer turntable from 1976 or so and it still works
though it needs a new belt. It starts out underspeed, then as it warms
up it comes up to pitch.

TCB wrote:
> So, a few months back an acquaintance owed me some money. Not a lot, a few
> hundred dollars for doing a bunch of computer editing for a hip hop project.
> He's a good guy, struggling to get a couple of local CT artists known. Yes,
> people in the hip hop world struggle, a lot some of the time. Anyway, the
> project was for a very good, edgy, female rapper and I think it came out
> quite nicely. Then, my acquaintance had some personal money problems and
> I was about to write the thing off as a complete loss. Not a huge deal, my
> day job is so off the charts busy I only take work I enjoy doing anyway.
>
>
> So I politely ask him about the money a two or three times and he's genuinely
> upset he can't pay me. I don't hear anything for a while and then one day
> he calls to say that he has two Technics 1200s that he'd be willing to give
> me instead of cash. As an enthusiastic but not especially skilled DJ it's
> kind of overkill for me, but what the hell, I take them. They're obviously
> in need of some work, but they come with flight cases and have a certain
> amount of cool to me because they've obviously been doing battle in the hip
> hop trenches forever. My guy was a professional DJ for a long, long time
> and the cases are covered with stickers from Public Enemy, Noriega, Tupac,
> and probably a dozen others. They've been sitting in my studio, used only
> occasionally, for a while but as I'm probably taking over a night at a club
> again I thought I should get them some TLC
>
> So I took them to the best turntable guy I could find in CT. He's a slightly
> eccentric fellow but clearly knows what he's doing. There's fancy high end
> tube amps for audiophiles on the shelves, next to Parasound amps and all
> that kind of stuff. So I lug in my battered up flight cases and leave them
> with him. Last night, they were done so I drove up to get them and hear the
> diagnosis. I walk in and he says, 'Hey, it's the duct tape guy.' To which
> I reply that no, I did not put duct tape in the inside of my 12s. He goes
> on to describe the shape they tables were in. First, he said that when he
> pulled the platters off there a thick coating of gunk, probably a combination
> of spilled beer, cigarette tar, and who knows what. So much of it that he
> was initially worried it might have ruined the motors in the decks. Luckily,
> that hadn't happened. The bearings were 'bone dry' and the previously mentioned
> duct tape had been used in various places. One headshell was wired incorrectly
> and the leads were almost rotted out. All that was fixed and we fired them
> up and they sound great.
>
> But here's the funny part. I thought they were a pair, but my repair guy
> flipped one of them over to show me the serial number. It was made in 1979!
> That's only the second year Technics made the mkII, and it's freaking almost
> 30 years old. Then my repair guys said, 'These things are built like a safe.
> I'm sure this one has another 30 left in it.' Now I just have to learn to
> DJ as well as a guy who owns these should be able to.
>Ah THOSE tabs. ;o) Hehe no, I have heard them called tabs before. There's
another word too I think, but don't recall.

I'm thinking MB almost now.

Or perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, I should check the SCSI leads further. ;o)

Now I did SORTA do it before, but not properly. Mmm... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Kim,
>
>By 'tabs' I mean the male portion of the eds card that slips
>into the PCI slot. I've read that a standard pencil eraser can clean
>then them appropriately. If your deduction is hardware then
>triple check the SCSI cables. I had to say it again. And try another=20
>PCI slot again with a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.
>
>Mobo maybe?
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:476ece88$1@linux...
>
>
> Well a restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)
>
> This image has been restored several times and worked every time.
>
> PCI slot test is next methinks... and/or IRQ's...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
> >Kim, I had a 7/7 when I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow =
>the
> EDS=20
> >driver install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen
=
>the
> "?=20
> >audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =3D 7/7 =
>error
> on=20
> >Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used =
>the=20
> >"setup.exe", she booted rite up.
> >
> >P4, XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16
> >Good luck and happy holidays
> >Rob
> >
> >PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:476e03fb$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough,
=
>and
>
> >> it's
> >> time for makin' toons.
> >>
> >> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually
=
>an
> EDS
> >> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little =
>rat
> poo.
> >> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in
=
>a
> PC
> >> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where =
>it's all
> >> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that
=
>it
>
> >> seems
> >> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
>*appear*
> >> to be intact.
> >>
> >> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted
=
>them
>
> >> off,
> >> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I
=
>try
>
> >> using
> >> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC=20
> >> workclock,
> >> so...?).
> >>
> >> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure
=
>is
> ok.
> >> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought =
>this error
> >> was EDS-ish.
> >>
> >> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do
=
>you
>
> >> need
> >> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
>Anyhow,
> I
> >> had none, and same error.
> >>
> >> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has
=
>been
>
> >> swapped
> >> out...
> >>
> >> ...ideas?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.=20
> >
> >
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Kim,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By 'tabs' I mean the male portion =
>of the eds=20
>card that slips</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>into the PCI slot. I've read that =
>a standard=20
>pencil eraser can clean</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then them appropriately. If your =
>deduction is=20
>hardware then</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>triple check the SCSI cables. I =
>had to say it=20
>again. And try another </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PCI </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>slot again with=20
>a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mobo maybe?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
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>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:476ece88$1@linux">news:476ece88$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>Well a=20
> restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)<BR><BR>This image has =
>been=20
> restored several times and worked every time.<BR><BR>PCI slot test is
=
>next=20
> methinks... and/or =
>IRQ's...<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Rob=20
> Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:<BR>>Kim, I had a =
>7/7 when=20
> I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow the<BR>EDS =
><BR>>driver=20
> install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen =
>the<BR>"?=20
> <BR>>audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =
>=3D 7/7=20
> error<BR>on <BR>>Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver =
>folder=20
> and used the <BR>>"setup.exe", she booted rite =
>up.<BR>><BR>>P4,=20
> XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16<BR>>Good luck and happy=20
> holidays<BR>>Rob<BR>><BR>>PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you =
>keep this=20
> place alive old chap.<BR>><BR>><BR>>"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B=
>R>>><BR>>>=20
> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough,=20
> and<BR><BR>>> it's<BR>>> time for makin'=20
> toons.<BR>>><BR>>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been =
>told=20
> this error was usually an<BR>EDS<BR>>> thing, so I've ripped =
>(gently ;o)=20
> the cards out. One had a little rat<BR>poo.<BR>>> Both look =
>kinda warped=20
> after standing horizontal with no support in a<BR>PC<BR>>> =
>hanging on by=20
> the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's all<BR>>> =
>black,=20
> and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that=20
> it<BR><BR>>> seems<BR>>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff =
>on the=20
> surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>>> to be=20
> intact.<BR>>><BR>>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated =
>the=20
> daughter boards, dusted them<BR><BR>>> off,<BR>>> and put =
>them=20
> back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =
>try<BR><BR>>>=20
> using<BR>>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was =
>still on=20
> the MEC <BR>>> workclock,<BR>>> =
>so...?).<BR>>><BR>>>=20
> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure=20
> is<BR>ok.<BR>>> Would be very odd to have the same error on =
>both, and I=20
> thought this error<BR>>> was EDS-ish.<BR>>><BR>>> So =
>I then=20
> try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =
>you<BR><BR>>>=20
> need<BR>>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? =
>I=20
> forget. Anyhow,<BR>I<BR>>> had none, and same=20
> error.<BR>>><BR>>> I'm starting to think this is software =
>because=20
> everything else has been<BR><BR>>> swapped<BR>>>=20
> out...<BR>>><BR>>> ...ideas?<BR>>><BR>>>=20
> Cheers,<BR>>> Kim. <BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476f09ae$1@linux...
>
> Heck, I have no idea, then. Hey, did u get a chance to listen
> to the Portico Tape Sim clip I posted?
>
> Neil


Yep!!! Sounds very familiar ;o) You gonna keep it??I just tried running on the Interface 2. Same error, so no SCSI cables at
all, which, by the way, visually looked fine, and given I've got two I don't
want to get the meter out just yet...

....especially when the Interface 2 won't load...

Mmm. And tried the other C16 too...

Still could be MB...?

Cheers,
Kim.


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've re-imaged the hdd with a known working image, which still doesn't work,
>so all software-only solutions are pencilled off the list for now.
>
>I also tried switching PCI slots. Now admittedly I used the other slot which
>the other EDS was in, so if somehow they both blew then we'd still have
trouble.
>I'd guess that if more than one has blown then the whole board has blown,
>or some BIOS thing may have changed.
>
>But given I have tried two slots and reimaged the hdd...
>
>...I'm starting to think the MB is fried. This MB has been nothing but trouble
>after the first couple of weeks. It's been replaced twice and still acts
>up. Maybe they don't like my Power Supply or something, but it's a Truepower.
>
>Mmm.
>
>Maybe I should just jump on ebay and find an appropriate second hand machine
>with a 2 gig processor and just hand away my $250 and be fixed...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hi Kim,
>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me 5 times!!!
>>Look at the pins and be sure they're straight. Use a different
>>one if you have one to swap with. Check it's pins too.
>>
>>Next thoughts are, one eds - one 442 for hardware, nothing else.
>>Remove the default project and start Paris from the .exe only.
>>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the tabs on the eds card.
>>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI slot. Could be some muck there =
>>too.
>>Still getting 7/7 then swap the Mec with the 442 again.
>>
>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! =20
>>Did I just say that again?
>>
>>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe not.
>>
>>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter Creepin' Mongral.
>>Tom
>>
>>PS Last ditch effort reload Paris.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>>news:476e03fb$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, =
>>and it's
>> time for makin' toons.
>>
>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually an
>=
>>EDS
>> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat
>=
>>poo.
>> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in a
>=
>>PC
>> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's
=
>>all
>> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that it
>=
>>seems
>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
>>*appear*
>> to be intact.
>>
>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted =
>>them off,
>> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =
>>try using
>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC =
>>workclock,
>> so...?).
>>
>> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure is
>=
>>ok.
>> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this
=
>>error
>> was EDS-ish.
>>
>> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =
>>you need
>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
>>Anyhow, I
>> had none, and same error.
>>
>> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has =
>>been swapped
>> out...
>>
>> ...ideas?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Kim,</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>>burned me 5=20
>>times!!!</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look at the pins and be sure they're=20
>>straight. Use a different</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>one if you have one to swap with. =
>>Check it's=20
>>pins too.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next thoughts are, one eds - one =
>>442 for=20
>>hardware, nothing else.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remove the default project and start =
>>Paris from the=20
>>.exe only.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the =
>>tabs on the=20
>>eds card.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI
=
>>slot. =20
>>Could be some muck there too.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 then swap =
>>the Mec with the=20
>>442 again.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>>burned me=20
>>and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did I just say that again?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe =
>>not.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter =
>>Creepin'=20
>>Mongral.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS Last ditch effort reload =
>>Paris.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>> wrote=20
>> in message <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>>My=20
>> system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, and=20
>> it's<BR>time for makin' toons.<BR><BR>Today I've gone fault finding.
=
>>I'd been=20
>> told this error was usually an EDS<BR>thing, so I've ripped (gently =
>>;o) the=20
>> cards out. One had a little rat poo.<BR>Both look kinda warped after
=
>>standing=20
>> horizontal with no support in a PC<BR>hanging on by the PCI slot and
=
>>screw,=20
>> and one has a point where it's all<BR>black, and tracks may be burnt.
>=
>>Later=20
>> tooth brush work reveals that it seems<BR>to be "just" some corrosive
>=
>>stuff on=20
>> the surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>to be intact.<BR><BR>So I've =
>>cleaned=20
>> them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted them off,<BR>and =
>>put them=20
>> back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I try =
>>using<BR>the 442=20
>> not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC=20
>> workclock,<BR>so...?).<BR><BR>I've already swapped out the C16 with =
>>one Deej=20
>> sent which I'm sure is ok.<BR>Would be very odd to have the same error
>=
>>on=20
>> both, and I thought this error<BR>was EDS-ish.<BR><BR>So I then try =
>>one EDS,=20
>> then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do you need<BR>any header =
>>multi-card=20
>> cables on a single card system? I forget. Anyhow, I<BR>had none, and
=
>>same=20
>> error.<BR><BR>I'm starting to think this is software because =
>>everything else=20
>> has been =
>>swapped<BR>out...<BR><BR>...ideas?<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR >Kim.</BLOCKQUOTE>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>and=20
>>you?<BR><A=20
>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Yes, either clocked to itself or externally-clocked.

Neil


Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>If I understand him (which I may not) it sounds like he is saying that
>the interface should be clocked to itself, not getting clock from the
>computer via USB or FW.
>
>Neil wrote:
>> In a recent thread here that had a question come up with regard
>> to jitter, I mentioned that Bob Katz pointed out in his book
>> that Firewire tended to be more prone to jitter. Since I've
>> been shopping around for a laptop - mainly for general office-
>> type use (documents, spreadsheets, etc), but would also like to
>> have the option of using it for audio should the need arise, I
>> thought I'd try e-mailing him with a question about UBS vs.
>> Firewire jitter... he responded pretty quickly, I must say, and
>> I thought I'd post his answer in case it might be helpful to
>> anyone else here, whether they're using such an interface for
>> laptop, or desktop use:
>>
>> <begin paste of my question & his reply>
>> Hi Bob...
>> I am in the process of reading your Mastering Audio book, and I
>> noticed that you mention in there that Firewire tends to be
>> more jitter-prone. If I'm looking for a mobile solution (for
>> remote recording into a laptop), do you feel that the USB 2.0
>> protocol is better than Firewire? Worse? Not much different?
>>
>> HI, NEIL. Thanks for writing.
>> What you need is an interface which provides a stable clock to
>> the converters and does not get its clock from the Firewire OR
>> the USB. Look to companies that specialize in high quality
>> conversion first and are aware of these issues. When in doubt,
>> quiz the company engineers (not just the sales people), don't
>> just take their advertising for granted.
>>
>> I hope this helps,
>>
>> Bob
>> <end paste>
>>
>> I don't know of any offhand that specifically get their clock
>> from either internally or externally, as opposed to from the FW
>> or USB port itself, xcept for the RME Fireface 400 & 800, which
>> can be externally-clocked; but now we at least know what to
>> look for for best audio quality when using these types of
>> interfaces (interfascia?) :)
>>
>> Neiland a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.

peace
rickAnd to all a good night!

DCLet the "The Airing of Grievances" begin !!

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Kim,
Merry Christmas! You'll get there before the
rest of us.

I'd try another pci card in those slots just to
see if the hardware shows up. There's always
the power supply too.
Happy Santa times,
Tom


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:476f3b4f$1@linux...


Ah THOSE tabs. ;o) Hehe no, I have heard them called tabs before. =
There's
another word too I think, but don't recall.

I'm thinking MB almost now.

Or perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, I should check the SCSI leads =
further. ;o)

Now I did SORTA do it before, but not properly. Mmm... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Kim,
>
>By 'tabs' I mean the male portion of the eds card that slips
>into the PCI slot. I've read that a standard pencil eraser can clean
>then them appropriately. If your deduction is hardware then
>triple check the SCSI cables. I had to say it again. And try =
another=3D20
>PCI slot again with a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.
>
>Mobo maybe?
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:476ece88$1@linux...
>
>
> Well a restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)
>
> This image has been restored several times and worked every time.
>
> PCI slot test is next methinks... and/or IRQ's...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
> >Kim, I had a 7/7 when I re-installed XP in my box and didn't =
follow =3D
>the
> EDS=3D20
> >driver install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, =
seen
=3D
>the
> "?=3D20
> >audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =3D3D =
7/7 =3D
>error
> on=3D20
> >Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used =
=3D
>the=3D20
> >"setup.exe", she booted rite up.
> >
> >P4, XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16
> >Good luck and happy holidays
> >Rob
> >
> >PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:476e03fb$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean =
enough,
=3D
>and
>
> >> it's
> >> time for makin' toons.
> >>
> >> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was =
usually
=3D
>an
> EDS
> >> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a =
little =3D
>rat
> poo.
> >> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support =
in
=3D
>a
> PC
> >> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where =
=3D
>it's all
> >> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals =
that
=3D
>it
>
> >> seems
> >> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
=3D
>*appear*
> >> to be intact.
> >>
> >> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, =
dusted
=3D
>them
>
> >> off,
> >> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. =
Same. I
=3D
>try
>
> >> using
> >> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the =
MEC=3D20
> >> workclock,
> >> so...?).
> >>
> >> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
sure
=3D
>is
> ok.
> >> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought =
=3D
>this error
> >> was EDS-ish.
> >>
> >> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. =
Do
=3D
>you
>
> >> need
> >> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
=3D
>Anyhow,
> I
> >> had none, and same error.
> >>
> >> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else =
has
=3D
>been
>
> >> swapped
> >> out...
> >>
> >> ...ideas?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.=3D20
> >
> >
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Kim,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>By 'tabs' I mean the male =
portion =3D
>of the eds=3D20
>card that slips</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>into the PCI slot. I've read =
that =3D
>a standard=3D20
>pencil eraser can clean</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then them appropriately. If =
your =3D
>deduction is=3D20
>hardware then</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>triple check the SCSI cables. I =
=3D
>had to say it=3D20
>again. And try another </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>PCI </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
=3D
>size=3D3D2>slot again with=3D20
>a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mobo maybe?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
=3D
> wrote=3D20
> in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:476ece88$1@linux">news:476ece88$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><=
BR>=3D
>Well a=3D20
> restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)<BR><BR>This image =
has =3D
>been=3D20
> restored several times and worked every time.<BR><BR>PCI slot test =
is
=3D
>next=3D20
> methinks... and/or =3D
>IRQ's...<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Rob=3D20
> Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:<BR>>Kim, I had a =3D
>7/7 when=3D20
> I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow the<BR>EDS =3D
><BR>>driver=3D20
> install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen =3D
>the<BR>"?=3D20
> <BR>>audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =
=3D
>=3D3D 7/7=3D20
> error<BR>on <BR>>Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver =
=3D
>folder=3D20
> and used the <BR>>"setup.exe", she booted rite =3D
>up.<BR>><BR>>P4,=3D20
> XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16<BR>>Good luck and happy=3D20
> holidays<BR>>Rob<BR>><BR>>PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you =3D
>keep this=3D20
> place alive old chap.<BR>><BR>><BR>>"Kim" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
=3D
> wrote=3D20
> in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B=3D=

>R>>><BR>>>=3D20
> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean =
enough,=3D20
> and<BR><BR>>> it's<BR>>> time for makin'=3D20
> toons.<BR>>><BR>>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been =3D
>told=3D20
> this error was usually an<BR>EDS<BR>>> thing, so I've ripped =3D
>(gently ;o)=3D20
> the cards out. One had a little rat<BR>poo.<BR>>> Both look =3D
>kinda warped=3D20
> after standing horizontal with no support in a<BR>PC<BR>>> =3D
>hanging on by=3D20
> the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's all<BR>>> =
=3D
>black,=3D20
> and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that=3D20
> it<BR><BR>>> seems<BR>>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff =3D
>on the=3D20
> surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>>> to be=3D20
> intact.<BR>>><BR>>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated =3D
>the=3D20
> daughter boards, dusted them<BR><BR>>> off,<BR>>> and put =3D
>them=3D20
> back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =3D
>try<BR><BR>>>=3D20
> using<BR>>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was =3D
>still on=3D20
> the MEC <BR>>> workclock,<BR>>> =3D
>so...?).<BR>>><BR>>>=3D20
> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
sure=3D20
> is<BR>ok.<BR>>> Would be very odd to have the same error on =3D
>both, and I=3D20
> thought this error<BR>>> was EDS-ish.<BR>>><BR>>> So =3D
>I then=3D20
> try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =3D
>you<BR><BR>>>=3D20
> need<BR>>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? =
=3D
>I=3D20
> forget. Anyhow,<BR>I<BR>>> had none, and same=3D20
> error.<BR>>><BR>>> I'm starting to think this is software =3D
>because=3D20
> everything else has been<BR><BR>>> swapped<BR>>>=3D20
> out...<BR>>><BR>>> ...ideas?<BR>>><BR>>>=3D20
> Cheers,<BR>>> Kim. <BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Merry Christmas!&nbsp; You'll get there =
before=20
the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rest of us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd try another pci card in those slots =
just=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see if the hardware shows up.&nbsp; =
There's=20
always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the power supply too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Happy Santa times,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:476f3b4f$1@linux">news:476f3b4f$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
Ah=20
THOSE tabs. ;o) Hehe no, I have heard them called tabs before.=20
There's<BR>another word too I think, but don't recall.<BR><BR>I'm =
thinking MB=20
almost now.<BR><BR>Or perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, I should check the =
SCSI=20
leads further. ;o)<BR><BR>Now I did SORTA do it before, but not =
properly.=20
Mmm...&nbsp; ;o)<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Hey Kim,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;By 'tabs' I mean =
the=20
male portion of the eds card that slips<BR>&gt;into the PCI =
slot.&nbsp; I've=20
read that a standard pencil eraser can clean<BR>&gt;then them=20
appropriately.&nbsp; If your deduction is hardwar
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e then<BR>&gt;triple =
check=20
the SCSI cables.&nbsp; I had to say it again.&nbsp; And try=20
another=3D20<BR>&gt;PCI slot again with a different scsi cable whos =
pins you've=20
checked.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Mobo maybe?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Good=20
luck,<BR>&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Kim" =
&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message =
=3D<BR>&gt;news:476ece88$1@linux...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
Well a restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. =
;o)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
This image has been restored several times and worked every=20
time.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; PCI slot test is next methinks...&nbsp; =
and/or=20
IRQ's...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Cheers,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
Kim.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Rob Arsenault"=20
&lt;mani1147athotmaildotcom&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Kim, I had a =
7/7 when=20
I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow =
=3D<BR>&gt;the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
EDS=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;driver install exactly. I had just went =
into the=20
device manager, seen<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;the<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
"?=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =3D3D =
7/7=20
=3D<BR>&gt;error<BR>&gt;&nbsp; on=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Paris =
start-up. Then I=20
browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used =
=3D<BR>&gt;the=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;"setup.exe", she booted rite up.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;P4,=20
XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Good luck and happy=20
holidays<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Rob<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;PS: thanks=20
for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;"Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message =3D<BR>&gt;news:476e03fb$1@linux...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; My system has =
been down=20
for long enough, the house is clean=20
enough,<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;and<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; =
it's<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt; time for makin' toons.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;=20
Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was=20
usually<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;an<BR>&gt;&nbsp; EDS<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; =
thing, so I've=20
ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little =
=3D<BR>&gt;rat<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
poo.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; Both look kinda warped after standing =
horizontal=20
with no support in<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;a<BR>&gt;&nbsp; PC<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;=20
hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where =
=3D<BR>&gt;it's=20
all<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth =
brush=20
work reveals that<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;it<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;=20
seems<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the =
surface=20
and the tracks =3D<BR>&gt;*appear*<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; to be=20
intact.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; So I've cleaned =
them=20
both up, reseated the daughter boards,=20
dusted<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;them<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; =
off,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt; and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. =
Same.=20
I<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;try<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; using<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;=20
the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the=20
MEC=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; workclock,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;=20
so...?).<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; I've already =
swapped=20
out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
sure<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;is<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
ok.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; Would be very odd to have the same error on =
both,=20
and I thought =3D<BR>&gt;this error<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; was=20
EDS-ish.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; So I then try =
one EDS,=20
then the other, and once again error 7/7.=20
Do<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;you<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; need<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;&gt;=20
any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget.=20
=3D<BR>&gt;Anyhow,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; I<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; had none, =
and same=20
error.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; I'm starting to =
think=20
this is software because everything else=20
has<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;been<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; =
swapped<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt; out...<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;=20
...ideas?<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; =
Cheers,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&gt; Kim.=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight spam,=20
and you?<BR>&gt;http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt; <BR>&gt;&lt;META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
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bgColor=3D3D#ffffff&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2&gt;Hey=20
Kim,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;By 'tabs' I mean the male portion =3D<BR>&gt;of the=20
eds=3D20<BR>&gt;card that=20
slips&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;into the PCI slot.&nbsp; I've read that =3D<BR>&gt;a=20
standard=3D20<BR>&gt;pencil eraser can=20
clean&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;then them appropriately.&nbsp; If your =
=3D<BR>&gt;deduction=20
is=3D20<BR>&gt;hardware =
then&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;triple check the SCSI cables.&nbsp; I =
=3D<BR>&gt;had to=20
say it=3D20<BR>&gt;again.&nbsp; And try another=20
&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;PCI &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
=3D<BR>&gt;size=3D3D2&gt;slot=20
again with=3D20<BR>&gt;a different scsi cable whos pins you've=20
checked.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;Mobo maybe?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;=20
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2&gt;Good=20
luck,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;Tom&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&g t; <BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; =
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; =
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; =
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;=20
=
&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >&gt;style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>&gt;BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
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MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &lt;DIV&gt;"Kim"=20
&lt;&lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D<BR>&gt;href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A'>mai=
lto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com"&gt;hiddensounds@hotmail.com&lt;/A</A>&gt;&g=
t;=3D<BR>&gt;=20
wrote=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; in message &lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
=3D<BR>&gt;href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:476ece88$1@linux">news:476ece88$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR'=
>news:476ece88$1@linux"&gt;news:476ece88$1@linux&lt;/A&gt;...&lt;/DIV&gt;=
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR</A>&gt;=3D<BR>&gt;Well=20
a=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'.=20
;o)&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;This image has =
=3D<BR>&gt;been=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; restored=20
several times and worked every time.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;PCI slot test=20
is<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;next=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; methinks...&nbsp; and/or=20
=
=3D<BR> &gt;IRQ's...&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Cheers,& amp;lt;BR&gt;Kim.&lt;BR&gt;&lt=
;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;"Rob=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
Arsenault" &lt;mani1147athotmaildotcom&gt; wrote:&lt;BR&gt;&gt;Kim, I =
had a=20
=3D<BR>&gt;7/7 when=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; I re-installed XP in my box and =
didn't=20
follow the&lt;BR&gt;EDS =
=3D<BR>&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;driver=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; install=20
exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen=20
=3D<BR>&gt;the&lt;BR&gt;"?=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &lt;BR&gt;&gt;audio =
device and did a=20
right click/update driver from there =3D<BR>&gt;=3D3D =
7/7=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
error&lt;BR&gt;on &lt;BR&gt;&gt;Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my =
EDS XP=20
driver =3D<BR>&gt;folder=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; and used the=20
&lt;BR&gt;&gt;"setup.exe", she booted rite=20
=3D<BR> &gt;up.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;& gt;P4,=3D20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
XPpro, 3 EDS, 2=20
MECs, 2 C16&lt;BR&gt;&gt;Good luck and happy=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
holidays&lt;BR&gt;&gt;Rob&lt;BR&gt;& gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;PS: thanks for =
the=20
bandwidth, you =3D<BR>&gt;keep this=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; place alive old =

chap.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&am p;lt;BR&gt;&gt; "Kim"=20
&lt;&lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D<BR>&gt;href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A'>mai=
lto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com"&gt;hiddensounds@hotmail.com&lt;/A</A>&gt;&g=
t;=3D<BR>&gt;=20
wrote=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; in message &lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
=3D<BR>&gt;href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B'>news=
:476e03fb$1@linux"&gt;news:476e03fb$1@linux&lt;/A&gt;...&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&lt;B</A>=3D<BR> &gt;R&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;& amp;gt;=3D20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean=20
enough,=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; and&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
it's&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; time for makin'=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
toons.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&a mp;gt;&gt; Today I've gone fault =
finding. I'd=20
been =3D<BR>&gt;told=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; this error was usually=20
an&lt;BR&gt;EDS&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; thing, so I've ripped =
=3D<BR>&gt;(gently=20
;o)=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; the cards out. One had a little=20
rat&lt;BR&gt;poo.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; Both look =3D<BR>&gt;kinda=20
warped=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; after standing horizontal with no support in =

a&lt;BR&gt;PC&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; =3D<BR>&gt;hanging on =
by=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; the=20
PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's =
all&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=3D<BR>&gt;black,=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; and tracks may be burnt. Later =
tooth brush=20
work reveals that=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; it&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
seems&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; to be "just" some corrosive stuff =
=3D<BR>&gt;on=20
the=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; surface and the tracks =
*appear*&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; to=20
be=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; intact.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;& amp;gt;&gt; So =
I've=20
cleaned them both up, reseated =3D<BR>&gt;the=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
daughter boards,=20
dusted them&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; off,&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; and put =

=3D<BR>&gt;them=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; back in. Same error. I try =
unplugging the 442.=20
Same. I =3D<BR> &gt;try&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;& gt;=3D20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
using&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 =
was=20
=3D<BR>&gt;still on=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; the MEC &lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
workclock,&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
=3D<BR> &gt;so...?).&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR &gt;&gt;&gt;=3D20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp=
; I've=20
already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
sure=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
is&lt;BR&gt;ok.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; Would be very odd to have the same =
error on=20
=3D<BR>&gt;both, and I=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; thought this =
error&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; was=20
EDS-ish.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt; &gt;&gt; So =3D<BR>&gt;I=20
then=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; try one EDS, then the other, and once again =
error 7/7.=20
Do =3D<BR> &gt;you&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;& gt;=3D20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
need&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; any header multi-card cables on a single card =
system?=20
=3D<BR>&gt;I=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; forget. =
Anyhow,&lt;BR&gt;I&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; had=20
none, and same=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
error.&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&a mp;gt;&gt; I'm=20
starting to think this is software =
=3D<BR>&gt;because=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
everything else has been&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
swapped&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
out...&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&a mp;gt;&gt;=20
...ideas?&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt ;&gt;&gt;=3D20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
Cheers,&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt; Kim.=20
=
&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&lt; BR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; <BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&=
gt;&lt;FONT=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam,=20
=
=3D<BR>&gt;and=3D20<BR>&gt;you?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;A=3D20 <BR>&gt;href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C84613.77BDA7A0--Merry Christmas guys!

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rick"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476f09ae$1@linux...
>>
>> Heck, I have no idea, then. Hey, did u get a chance to listen
>> to the Portico Tape Sim clip I posted?
>>
>> Neil
>
>
>Yep!!! Sounds very familiar ;o) You gonna keep it??

Absotively!

:)I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for about
8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were produced
with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error right
after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
as to what is going on?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Davemerry Christmas everyone. and happy birthday Jesus!
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
> everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
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Amos,
Try switching the Mec with the 442. Make sure all
ribbons and SCSI cables are connected properly also. =20
They can be tricky.
Tom
"Amos Parkinson" <amos@lakeside-studios.co.uk> wrote in message =
news:476cccbf$1@linux...

Thanks!

I've re-installed and it now works with mec and if2, but not 442 =
interface.
Lights flash on start up but the interface is not seen in patch bay =
but paris
does run without sound! Think this mad be a power issue - well at =
least Mec
is fine!

Thnaks again, Amos


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>probably that you do not have the driver installed properly. Error =
1/1 and

>7/7 mean that it does not see hardware when you initialize the =
software.
>
>AA
>
>"Amos Parkinson" <amos@lakeside-studios.co.uk> wrote in message=20
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>>
>> Hi
>> I'm getting error code 1/1 on a new system, I've never had an issue =

>> getting
>> paris up and running on a new rig but this time i'm trying it on a =
dell

>> c-doc
>> laptop system. Driver went in fine, then software but on re-start =
and

>> running
>> of paris i get an error:( the card is not visible in XP control =
panel

>> either...
>>
>> Any suggestion would be a great help!
>> Thanks
>> Amos=20
>
>



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rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rickDo those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.

Neil


"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for about
>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were produced
>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
right
>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
>as to what is going on?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
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Yes indeed! Happy, merry and joyous Christmasness to all.
Tom


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
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Merry Christmas guys!

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rick



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rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rickHi Neil,

Thanks for the response.

Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very beginning
of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying to open
each and every one.

Regards,
Dave

"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for about
>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were produced
>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
>right
>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
>>as to what is going on?
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Dave
>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?

Just venturing guesses...

Neil


"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Neil,
>
>Thanks for the response.
>
>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very beginning
>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying to open
>each and every one.
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for about
>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were produced
>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
>>right
>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
>>>as to what is going on?
>>>
>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>Hi Neil,

Thanks for your effort on this.

There are about 20 PPJ files (in three different song directories). They
are all yielding this same error. The error appears right after selecting
any of the projects. I am able to create a new PPJ and load in the audio
files, but that's about it.

I am thinking that it might have to do with a previous plug-in (as you have
suggested) or possibly an equipment mismatch (I am using the MEC with one
card).

Thanks again.

Dave







"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
>on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
>plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
>audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
>string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
>file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
>from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?
>
>Just venturing guesses...
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Neil,
>>
>>Thanks for the response.
>>
>>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very beginning
>>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying to
open
>>each and every one.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dave
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for about
>>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were produced
>>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
>>>right
>>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
>>>>as to what is going on?
>>>>
>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>
>OK, I'll start:

WHERE IS THE NEXT PARIS UPGRADE!!!!











I feel better now.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


John wrote:
> Let the "The Airing of Grievances" begin !!
>
> JohnOK, lemme ask you this... do the audio files have a lot of
punches and/or edits? If not, what about trying to open/import
the files themselves, then save as a new project & start from
there as far as any more overdubbing & mixing you have to do?

Laborious, to be sure, especially if the files are not labeled
well, but better than not being able to work on them at all.

Might be worth a try just to see how much of a nightmare it may,
or - if you're lucky - may not, be.

Neil


"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Neil,
>
>Thanks for your effort on this.
>
>There are about 20 PPJ files (in three different song directories). They
>are all yielding this same error. The error appears right after selecting
>any of the projects. I am able to create a new PPJ and load in the audio
>files, but that's about it.
>
>I am thinking that it might have to do with a previous plug-in (as you have
>suggested) or possibly an equipment mismatch (I am using the MEC with one
>card).
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
>>on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
>>plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
>>audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
>>string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
>>file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
>>from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?
>>
>>Just venturing guesses...
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Neil,
>>>
>>>Thanks for the response.
>>>
>>>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very beginning
>>>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying to
>open
>>>each and every one.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for
about
>>>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were
produced
>>>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>>>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
>>>>right
>>>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
>>>>>as to what is going on?
>>>>>
>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi Neil,

It definitely works for me, because I have tried it, but the client says
he is on a tight budget. The whole idea was for him to send me the 3) tunes,
I would play back the edited tracks into .wav files, make a CD for him, and
then he would just finish up with ProTools, Logic, or whatever. Evidentally
the original PARIS system that he recorded and mixed these on doesn't exist
anymore.

Is there a utility that makes these PPJ's more generic?

Also, could I possibly send you (or someone) one of his project files to
see if you can open it?

Dave

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>OK, lemme ask you this... do the audio files have a lot of
>punches and/or edits? If not, what about trying to open/import
>the files themselves, then save as a new project & start from
>there as far as any more overdubbing & mixing you have to do?
>
>Laborious, to be sure, especially if the files are not labeled
>well, but better than not being able to work on them at all.
>
>Might be worth a try just to see how much of a nightmare it may,
>or - if you're lucky - may not, be.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Neil,
>>
>>Thanks for your effort on this.
>>
>>There are about 20 PPJ files (in three different song directories). They
>>are all yielding this same error. The error appears right after selecting
>>any of the projects. I am able to create a new PPJ and load in the audio
>>files, but that's about it.
>>
>>I am thinking that it might have to do with a previous plug-in (as you
have
>>suggested) or possibly an equipment mismatch (I am using the MEC with one
>>card).
>>
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
>>>on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
>>>plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
>>>audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
>>>string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
>>>file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
>>>from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?
>>>
>>>Just venturing guesses...
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the response.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very beginning
>>>>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying to
>>open
>>>>each and every one.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>>>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for
>about
>>>>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were
>produced
>>>>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>>>>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
>>>>>right
>>>>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any
light
>>>>>>as to what is going on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"Neil" <OIOIU@IOU.com> wrote in message news:476fd058$1@linux...
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:476f09ae$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Heck, I have no idea, then. Hey, did u get a chance to listen
>>> to the Portico Tape Sim clip I posted?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
>>Yep!!! Sounds very familiar ;o) You gonna keep it??
>
> Absotively!
>
> :)
>

Picture me shaking my finger and saying see???..SEE????

sheesh!!!! it only took ya' a year to join the club.

:oD

Merry Christmas buddy,

DeejChris,

I need to get you paid for that POCO. Give me a call.

970-375-7081

;o)

DeejIt's right here silly !

http://tinyurl.com/y7dddlyou were BOTH on Paris 2.1 ?

AA

"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote in message
news:476ff6fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> It definitely works for me, because I have tried it, but the client says
> he is on a tight budget. The whole idea was for him to send me the 3)
> tunes,
> I would play back the edited tracks into .wav files, make a CD for him,
> and
> then he would just finish up with ProTools, Logic, or whatever.
> Evidentally
> the original PARIS system that he recorded and mixed these on doesn't
> exist
> anymore.
>
> Is there a utility that makes these PPJ's more generic?
>
> Also, could I possibly send you (or someone) one of his project files to
> see if you can open it?
>
> Dave
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>OK, lemme ask you this... do the audio files have a lot of
>>punches and/or edits? If not, what about trying to open/import
>>the files themselves, then save as a new project & start from
>>there as far as any more overdubbing & mixing you have to do?
>>
>>Laborious, to be sure, especially if the files are not labeled
>>well, but better than not being able to work on them at all.
>>
>>Might be worth a try just to see how much of a nightmare it may,
>>or - if you're lucky - may not, be.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Neil,
>>>
>>>Thanks for your effort on this.
>>>
>>>There are about 20 PPJ files (in three different song directories). They
>>>are all yielding this same error. The error appears right after selecting
>>>any of the projects. I am able to create a new PPJ and load in the audio
>>>files, but that's about it.
>>>
>>>I am thinking that it might have to do with a previous plug-in (as you
> have
>>>suggested) or possibly an equipment mismatch (I am using the MEC with one
>>>card).
>>>
>>>Thanks again.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
>>>>on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
>>>>plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
>>>>audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
>>>>string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
>>>>file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
>>>>from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?
>>>>
>>>>Just venturing guesses...
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the response.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very
>>>>>beginning
>>>>>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying to
>>>open
>>>>>each and every one.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>>>>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for
>>about
>>>>>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were
>>produced
>>>>>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several
>>>>>>>project
>>>>>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the
>>>>>>>error
>>>>>>right
>>>>>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any
> light
>>>>>>>as to what is going on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Have you tried firing up the EDS1000's solo, on each one, and having removed
the daughter/FX board?
It's just an eds 500 at that point, BUT it tells you if that portion of the
card will work.

AA

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:476f5c2f$1@linux...
>
>
> I just tried running on the Interface 2. Same error, so no SCSI cables at
> all, which, by the way, visually looked fine, and given I've got two I
> don't
> want to get the meter out just yet...
>
> ...especially when the Interface 2 won't load...
>
> Mmm. And tried the other C16 too...
>
> Still could be MB...?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've re-imaged the hdd with a known working image, which still doesn't
>>work,
>>so all software-only solutions are pencilled off the list for now.
>>
>>I also tried switching PCI slots. Now admittedly I used the other slot
>>which
>>the other EDS was in, so if somehow they both blew then we'd still have
> trouble.
>>I'd guess that if more than one has blown then the whole board has blown,
>>or some BIOS thing may have changed.
>>
>>But given I have tried two slots and reimaged the hdd...
>>
>>...I'm starting to think the MB is fried. This MB has been nothing but
>>trouble
>>after the first couple of weeks. It's been replaced twice and still acts
>>up. Maybe they don't like my Power Supply or something, but it's a
>>Truepower.
>>
>>Mmm.
>>
>>Maybe I should just jump on ebay and find an appropriate second hand
>>machine
>>with a 2 gig processor and just hand away my $250 and be fixed...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Kim,
>>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me 5 times!!!
>>>Look at the pins and be sure they're straight. Use a different
>>>one if you have one to swap with. Check it's pins too.
>>>
>>>Next thoughts are, one eds - one 442 for hardware, nothing else.
>>>Remove the default project and start Paris from the .exe only.
>>>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the tabs on the eds card.
>>>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI slot. Could be some muck there =
>>>too.
>>>Still getting 7/7 then swap the Mec with the 442 again.
>>>
>>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! =20
>>>Did I just say that again?
>>>
>>>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe not.
>>>
>>>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter Creepin' Mongral.
>>>Tom
>>>
>>>PS Last ditch effort reload Paris.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:476e03fb$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, =
>>>and it's
>>> time for makin' toons.
>>>
>>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually an
>>=
>>>EDS
>>> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat
>>=
>>>poo.
>>> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in a
>>=
>>>PC
>>> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's
> =
>>>all
>>> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that it
>>=
>>>seems
>>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
>>>*appear*
>>> to be intact.
>>>
>>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted =
>>>them off,
>>> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =
>>>try using
>>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC =
>>>workclock,
>>> so...?).
>>>
>>> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure is
>>=
>>>ok.
>>> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this
> =
>>>error
>>> was EDS-ish.
>>>
>>> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =
>>>you need
>>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
>>>Anyhow, I
>>> had none, and same error.
>>>
>>> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has =
>>>been swapped
>>> out...
>>>
>>> ...ideas?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Kim,</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>>>burned me 5=20
>>>times!!!</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look at the pins and be sure they're=20
>>>straight. Use a different</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>one if you have one to swap with. =
>>>Check it's=20
>>>pins too.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next thoughts are, one eds - one =
>>>442 for=20
>>>hardware, nothing else.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remove the default project and start =
>>>Paris from the=20
>>>.exe only.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the =
>>>tabs on the=20
>>>eds card.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI
> =
>>>slot. =20
>>>Could be some muck there too.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 then swap =
>>>the Mec with the=20
>>>442 again.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>>>burned me=20
>>>and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! </FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did I just say that again?</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe =
>>>not.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter =
>>>Creepin'=20
>>>Mongral.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS Last ditch effort reload =
>>>Paris.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>> wrote=20
>>> in message <A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>>>My=20
>>> system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, and=20
>>> it's<BR>time for makin' toons.<BR><BR>Today I've gone fault finding.
> =
>>>I'd been=20
>>> told this error was usually an EDS<BR>thing, so I've ripped (gently =
>>>;o) the=20
>>> cards out. One had a little rat poo.<BR>Both look kinda warped after
> =
>>>standing=20
>>> horizontal with no support in a PC<BR>hanging on by the PCI slot and
> =
>>>screw,=20
>>> and one has a point where it's all<BR>black, and tracks may be burnt.
>>=
>>>Later=20
>>> tooth brush work reveals that it seems<BR>to be "just" some corrosive
>>=
>>>stuff on=20
>>> the surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>to be intact.<BR><BR>So I've =
>>>cleaned=20
>>> them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted them off,<BR>and =
>>>put them=20
>>> back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I try =
>>>using<BR>the 442=20
>>> not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC=20
>>> workclock,<BR>so...?).<BR><BR>I've already swapped out the C16 with =
>>>one Deej=20
>>> sent which I'm sure is ok.<BR>Would be very odd to have the same error
>>=
>>>on=20
>>> both, and I thought this error<BR>was EDS-ish.<BR><BR>So I then try =
>>>one EDS,=20
>>> then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do you need<BR>any header =
>>>multi-card=20
>>> cables on a single card system? I forget. Anyhow, I<BR>had none, and
> =
>>>same=20
>>> error.<BR><BR>I'm starting to think this is software because =
>>>everything else=20
>>> has been =
>>>swapped<BR>out...<BR><BR>...ideas?<BR><BR>Cheers, <BR>Kim.</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>>and=20
>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Well, I change my settings all the time - kinda depends on the music. I've
grown used to mixing into the eds comp and slamming it pretty hard - which
causes me to split up a lot of my tracks into different bandwidths to
compensate for that bad compression 'breathing'. Basically, I tend to *hear*
the compression the most with the high frequencies getting bumped around and
not sounding natural. So - the multiband is totally clearing that up, while
letting me slam the mid and low frequencies even more, which kinda reminds
me of that old analog tape 'blending' affect from slamming the tape.

For this stuff, my settings are roughly....

2:1 (or a little less), ~60 to 70ms attack, .001 release << on all 3 bands
(set the same)
crossover points are 270Hz and 6.5K

The real magic happens (for me) by playing with the threshold and output
levels.
Low is -38 thresh, +9.5 out, Mid is -36 thresh, +7 out, and Hi is -25 thresh
and +4 out.

Now - I'm not sure how this would translate to other people's mix setups -
but I am loving how it's generally treating mine. It's nice because I've
worked with the eds comp so long and am so used to it, that Mike's
modification is really easy for me to know what's going on signal-wise. I
have a much harder time trying to get something like a Waves C4 to react
like I want. Anyway, woo hoo!

-Carl


"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:476ce8c7$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> Can you share the settings of the multiband you used for this song ?
> Nice !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The first one sounds really good as Neil said, but you kinda need
>>something
>>good obviously.
>>
>>The second one however keeps giving me that feeling that I'm excited about
>>the music. ;o) I go back to the first and go "Nah, that's just as good"
> and
>>then to the second and go "Oh, no it's not".
>>
>>So I kinda sounds better each time I switch.
>>
>>I sooooo gotta get my Paris up and running and try this one. This is the
>>one. Want want want! :o)
>>
>>Must find some money for Mike. How good!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>Man oh man. Ok - I am loving this thing.
>>>
>>>I push the hell out of the 2-track buss (eds comp) with my mixes, and
>>>applying Mike's multiband version is letting me hit it like a madman, and
>>
>>>yet it's clearing things up and becoming more 'open' sounding. I am
>>>really
>>
>>>stoked about this.
>>>
>>>Here's a sample of what I'm talking about - same mix, just a swap out of
>>the
>>>comps.
>>>
>>>Sample A http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_A.wav << normal
> eds
>>
>>>comp
>>>
>>>
>>>Sample B http://www.carlamburn.com/selfevident/Sample_B.wav << multiband
>>
>>>eds comp
>>>
>>>woo hoo!,
>>>-Carl
>>>
>>>
>>
>Have a merry Christmas all. Whether you believe in such things or not, it
is worth celebrating and enjoying the vibe of happiness, the community and
family spirit, and the general feeling of goodwill that exists this time
of year in so many places.

There are times in life when I both have and have not believed in God and
Jesus, but one things for sure, the Jesus we hear about did have some nice
things to say about love, the importance of people and the struggle of the
poor, and that's worth acknowledging to me. He also seemed to make a special
point about how it's ok to get spoiled and be bathed in the finest fragrances
on deserving or needed occasions, that there are more important things that
material wealth in life, such as caring about people.

Now I could use that a a segway into how this particular group help each
other out so much and how cool you all are, but I might instead just say
"So Merry Xmas all" and leave it at that. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rickJohn wrote:
> It's right here silly !
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y7dddl

Riiight. What's that in the lower left corner of this page, then?

http://www.intelligentdevices.com/

"STAY TUNED
New products coming soon...
check back often"

With a nice little PARIS pic. :^)

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



Jamie K wrote:
>
> OK, I'll start:
>
> WHERE IS THE NEXT PARIS UPGRADE!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I feel better now.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> John wrote:
>> Let the "The Airing of Grievances" begin !!
>>
>> JohnI was checking the BIOS each bootup, and it did detect the "Paris Cafe" in
the BIOS PCI, so I think other cards would show given the EDS is, but I should,
at least, check if the Windows driver as an exclaimation mark next to it...

....but Merry Christmas. Thanks for your help. More updates soon...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Kim,
>Merry Christmas! You'll get there before the
>rest of us.
>
>I'd try another pci card in those slots just to
>see if the hardware shows up. There's always
>the power supply too.
>Happy Santa times,
>Tom
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:476f3b4f$1@linux...
>
>
> Ah THOSE tabs. ;o) Hehe no, I have heard them called tabs before. =
>There's
> another word too I think, but don't recall.
>
> I'm thinking MB almost now.
>
> Or perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, I should check the SCSI leads =
>further. ;o)
>
> Now I did SORTA do it before, but not properly. Mmm... ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Kim,
> >
> >By 'tabs' I mean the male portion of the eds card that slips
> >into the PCI slot. I've read that a standard pencil eraser can clean
> >then them appropriately. If your deduction is hardware then
> >triple check the SCSI cables. I had to say it again. And try =
>another=3D20
> >PCI slot again with a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.
> >
> >Mobo maybe?
> >
> >Good luck,
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:476ece88$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > Well a restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)
> >
> > This image has been restored several times and worked every time.
> >
> > PCI slot test is next methinks... and/or IRQ's...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
> >
> >
> > "Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
> > >Kim, I had a 7/7 when I re-installed XP in my box and didn't =
>follow =3D
> >the
> > EDS=3D20
> > >driver install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, =
>seen
> =3D
> >the
> > "?=3D20
> > >audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =3D3D
=
>7/7 =3D
> >error
> > on=3D20
> > >Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used
=
>=3D
> >the=3D20
> > >"setup.exe", she booted rite up.
> > >
> >
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>P4, XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16
> > >Good luck and happy holidays
> > >Rob
> > >
> > >PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.
> > >
> > >
> > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:476e03fb$1@linux...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean =
>enough,
> =3D
> >and
> >
> > >> it's
> > >> time for makin' toons.
> > >>
> > >> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was =
>usually
> =3D
> >an
> > EDS
> > >> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a =
>little =3D
> >rat
> > poo.
> > >> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support
=
>in
> =3D
> >a
> > PC
> > >> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where
=
>=3D
> >it's all
> > >> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals =
>that
> =3D
> >it
> >
> > >> seems
> > >> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks
=
>=3D
> >*appear*
> > >> to be intact.
> > >>
> > >> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, =
>dusted
> =3D
> >them
> >
> > >> off,
> > >> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. =
>Same. I
> =3D
> >try
> >
> > >> using
> > >> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the =
>MEC=3D20
> > >> workclock,
> > >> so...?).
> > >>
> > >> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
>sure
> =3D
> >is
> > ok.
> > >> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought
=
>=3D
> >this error
> > >> was EDS-ish.
> > >>
> > >> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7.
=
>Do
> =3D
> >you
> >
> > >> need
> > >> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget.
=
>=3D
> >Anyhow,
> > I
> > >> had none, and same error.
> > >>
> > >> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else =
>has
> =3D
> >been
> >
> > >> swapped
> > >> out...
> > >>
> > >> ...ideas?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Kim.=3D20
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Kim,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>By 'tabs' I mean the male =
>portion =3D
> >of the eds=3D20
> >card that slips</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>into the PCI slot. I've read =
>that =3D
> >a standard=3D20
> >pencil eraser can clean</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then them appropriately. If =
>your =3D
> >deduction is=3D20
> >hardware then</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>triple check the SCSI cables. I
=
>=3D
> >had to say it=3D20
> >again. And try another </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>PCI </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial
=
>=3D
> >size=3D3D2>slot again with=3D20
> >a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mobo maybe?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Kim" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>=3D
> > wrote=3D20
> > in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:476ece88$1@linux">news:476ece88$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><=
>BR>=3D
> >Well a=3D20
> > restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. ;o)<BR><BR>This image =
>has =3D
> >been=3D20
> > restored several times and worked every time.<BR><BR>PCI slot test
=
>is
> =3D
> >next=3D20
> > methinks... and/or =3D
> >IRQ's...<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Rob=3D20
> > Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:<BR>>Kim, I had a =3D
> >7/7 when=3D20
> > I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow the<BR>EDS =3D
> ><BR>>driver=3D20
> > install exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen =3D
> >the<BR>"?=3D20
> > <BR>>audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =
>=3D
> >=3D3D 7/7=3D20
> > error<BR>on <BR>>Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my EDS XP driver
=
>=3D
> >folder=3D20
> > and used the <BR>>"setup.exe", she booted rite =3D
> >up.<BR>><BR>>P4,=3D20
> > XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16<BR>>Good luck and happy=3D20
> > holidays<BR>>Rob<BR>><BR>>PS: thanks for the bandwidth, you =3D
> >keep this=3D20
> > place alive old chap.<BR>><BR>><BR>>"Kim" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>=3D
> > wrote=3D20
> > in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B=3D=
>
> >R>>><BR>>>=3D20
> > My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean =
>enough,=3D20
> > and<BR><BR>>> it's<BR>>> time for makin'=3D20
> > toons.<BR>>><BR>>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been =3D
> >told=3D20
> > this error was usually an<BR>EDS<BR>>> thing, so I've ripped =3D
> >(gently ;o)=3D20
> > the cards out. One had a little rat<BR>poo.<BR>>> Both look =3D
> >kinda warped=3D20
> > after standing horizontal with no support in a<BR>PC<BR>>> =3D
> >hanging on by=3D20
> > the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's all<BR>>> =
>=3D
> >black,=3D20
> > and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that=3D20
> > it<BR><BR>>> seems<BR>>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff =3D
> >on the=3D20
> > surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>>> to be=3D20
> > intact.<BR>>><BR>>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated =3D
> >the=3D20
> > daughter boards, dusted them<BR><BR>>> off,<BR>>> and put =3D
> >them=3D20
> > back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I =3D
> >try<BR><BR>>>=3D20
> > using<BR>>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was =3D
> >still on=3D20
> > the MEC <BR>>> workclock,<BR>>> =3D
> >so...?).<BR>>><BR>>>=3D20
> > I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
>sure=3D20
> > is<BR>ok.<BR>>> Would be very odd to have the same error on =3D
> >both, and I=3D20
> > thought this error<BR>>> was EDS-ish.<BR>>><BR>>> So =3D
> >I then=3D20
> > try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do =3D
> >you<BR><BR>>>=3D20
> > need<BR>>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? =
>=3D
> >I=3D20
> > forget. Anyhow,<BR>I<BR>>> had none, and same=3D20
> > error.<BR>>><BR>>> I'm starting to think this is software =3D
> >because=3D20
> > everything else has been<BR><BR>>> swapped<BR>>>=3D20
> > out...<BR>>><BR>>> ...ideas?<BR>>><BR>>>=3D20
> > Cheers,<BR>>> Kim. <BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
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>fer=3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Merry Christmas! You'll get there =
>before=20
>the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rest of us.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd try another pci card in those slots
=
>just=20
>to</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see if the hardware shows up. =
>There's=20
>always</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the power supply too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Happy Santa times,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:476f3b4f$1@linux">news:476f3b4f$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>Ah=20
> THOSE tabs. ;o) Hehe no, I have heard them called tabs before.=20
> There's<BR>another word too I think, but don't recall.<BR><BR>I'm =
>thinking MB=20
> almost now.<BR><BR>Or perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, I should check the
=
>SCSI=20
> leads further. ;o)<BR><BR>Now I did SORTA do it before, but not =
>properly.=20
> Mmm... ;o)<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Kim,<BR>><BR>>By 'tabs' I mean =
>the=20
> male portion of the eds card that slips<BR>>into the PCI =
>slot. I've=20
> read that a standard pencil eraser can clean<BR>>then them=20
> appropriately. If your deduction is hardware then<BR>>triple =
>check=20
> the SCSI cables. I had to say it again. And try=20
> another=3D20<BR>>PCI slot again with a different scsi cable whos =
>pins you've=20
> checked.<BR>><BR>>Mobo maybe?<BR>><BR>>Good=20
> luck,<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Kim" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message =
>=3D<BR>>news:476ece88$1@linux...<BR>><BR>><BR>> =20
> Well a restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'. =
>;o)<BR>><BR>> =20
> This image has been restored several times and worked every=20
> time.<BR>><BR>> PCI slot test is next methinks... =
>and/or=20
> IRQ's...<BR>><BR>> Cheers,<BR>> =20
> Kim.<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Rob Arsenault"=20
> <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:<BR>> >Kim, I had a =
>7/7 when=20
> I re-installed XP in my box and didn't follow =
>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
> EDS=3D20<BR>> >driver install exactly. I had just went =
>into the=20
> device manager, seen<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =
>"?=3D20<BR>> =20
> >audio device and did a right click/update driver from there =3D3D =
>7/7=20
> =3D<BR>>error<BR>> on=3D20<BR>> >Paris =
>start-up. Then I=20
> browsed to my EDS XP driver folder and used =
>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =20
> >"setup.exe", she booted rite up.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>>P4,=20
> XPpro, 3 EDS, 2 MECs, 2 C16<BR>> >Good luck and happy=20
> holidays<BR>> >Rob<BR>> ><BR>> =
>>PS: thanks=20
> for the bandwidth, you keep this place alive old chap.<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> ><BR>> >"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message =3D<BR>>news:476e03fb$1@linux...<BR>> =20
> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> My system has =
>been down=20
> for long enough, the house is clean=20
> enough,<BR>=3D<BR>>and<BR>><BR>> >> =
>it's<BR>> =20
> >> time for makin' toons.<BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>=20
> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was=20
> usually<BR>=3D<BR>>an<BR>> EDS<BR>> >> =
>thing, so I've=20
> ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little =
>=3D<BR>>rat<BR>> =20
> poo.<BR>> >> Both look kinda warped after standing =
>horizontal=20
> with no support in<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> PC<BR>> =
>>>=20
> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where =
>=3D<BR>>it's=20
> all<BR>> >> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth =
>brush=20
> work reveals that<BR>=3D<BR>>it<BR>><BR>> >>=20
> seems<BR>> >> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the =
>surface=20
> and the tracks =3D<BR>>*appear*<BR>> >> to be=20
> intact.<BR>> >><BR>> >> So I've cleaned =
>them=20
> both up, reseated the daughter boards,=20
> dusted<BR>=3D<BR>>them<BR>><BR>> >> =
>off,<BR>> =20
> >> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. =
>Same.=20
> I<BR>=3D<BR>>try<BR>><BR>> >> using<BR>> =
>>>=20
> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the=20
> MEC=3D20<BR>> >> workclock,<BR>> >>=20
> so...?).<BR>> >><BR>> >> I've already =
>swapped=20
> out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
>sure<BR>=3D<BR>>is<BR>> =20
> ok.<BR>> >> Would be very odd to have the same error on =
>both,=20
> and I thought =3D<BR>>this error<BR>> >> was=20
> EDS-ish.<BR>> >><BR>> >> So I then try =
>one EDS,=20
> then the other, and once again error 7/7.=20
> Do<BR>=3D<BR>>you<BR>><BR>> >> need<BR>> =
>>>=20
> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget.=20
> =3D<BR>>Anyhow,<BR>> I<BR>> >> had none, =
>and same=20
> error.<BR>> >><BR>> >> I'm starting to =
>think=20
> this is software because everything else=20
> has<BR>=3D<BR>>been<BR>><BR>> >> =
>swapped<BR>> =20
> >> out...<BR>> >><BR>> >>=20
> ...ideas?<BR>> >><BR>> >> =
>Cheers,<BR>> =20
> >> Kim.=3D20<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
>fight spam,=20
> and you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2900.2180"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Hey=20
> Kim,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>By 'tabs' I mean the male portion =3D<BR>>of the=20
> eds=3D20<BR>>card that=20
> slips</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>into the PCI slot. I've read that =3D<BR>>a=20
> standard=3D20<BR>>pencil eraser can=20
> clean</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>then them appropriately. If your =
>=3D<BR>>deduction=20
> is=3D20<BR>>hardware =
>then</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>triple check the SCSI cables. I =
>=3D<BR>>had to=20
> say it=3D20<BR>>again. And try another=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>PCI </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D2>slot=20
> again with=3D20<BR>>a different scsi cable whos pins you've=20
> checked.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Mobo maybe?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Good=20
> luck,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> =
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>2px solid;=20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Kim"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A'>mai=
>lto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A</A>>&g=
>t;=3D<BR>>=20
> wrote=3D20<BR>> in message <A=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:476ece88$1@linux">news:476ece88$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR'=
>>news:476ece88$1@linux">news:476ece88$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
><BR><BR</A>>=3D<BR>>Well=20
> a=3D20<BR>> restore of the hdd image has done nuttin'.=20
> ;o)<BR><BR>This image has =
>=3D<BR>>been=3D20<BR>> restored=20
> several times and worked every time.<BR><BR>PCI slot test=20
> is<BR>=3D<BR>>next=3D20<BR>> methinks... and/or=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>IRQ's...<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><=
>;BR><BR>"Rob=3D20<BR>> =20
> Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:<BR>>Kim, I =
>had a=20
> =3D<BR>>7/7 when=3D20<BR>> I re-installed XP in my box and =
>didn't=20
> follow the<BR>EDS =
>=3D<BR>><BR>>driver=3D20<BR>> install=20
> exactly. I had just went into the device manager, seen=20
> =3D<BR>>the<BR>"?=3D20<BR>> <BR>>audio =
>device and did a=20
> right click/update driver from there =3D<BR>>=3D3D =
>7/7=3D20<BR>> =20
> error<BR>on <BR>>Paris start-up. Then I browsed to my =
>EDS XP=20
> driver =3D<BR>>folder=3D20<BR>> and used the=20
> <BR>>"setup.exe", she booted rite=20
> =3D<BR>>up.<BR>><BR>>P4,=3D20<BR>> =
>XPpro, 3 EDS, 2=20
> MECs, 2 C16<BR>>Good luck and happy=3D20<BR>> =20
> holidays<BR>>Rob<BR>><BR>>PS: thanks for =
>the=20
> bandwidth, you =3D<BR>>keep this=3D20<BR>> place alive old =
>
> chap.<BR>><BR>><BR>>"Kim"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A'>mai=
>lto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A</A>>&g=
>t;=3D<BR>>=20
> wrote=3D20<BR>> in message <A=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B'>news=
>:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>=
>;<B</A>=3D<BR>>R>>><BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean=20
> enough,=3D20<BR>> and<BR><BR>>>=20
> it's<BR>>> time for makin'=3D20<BR>> =20
> toons.<BR>>><BR>>> Today I've gone fault =
>finding. I'd=20
> been =3D<BR>>told=3D20<BR>> this error was usually=20
> an<BR>EDS<BR>>> thing, so I've ripped =
>=3D<BR>>(gently=20
> ;o)=3D20<BR>> the cards out. One had a little=20
> rat<BR>poo.<BR>>> Both look =3D<BR>>kinda=20
> warped=3D20<BR>> after standing horizontal with no support in =
>
> a<BR>PC<BR>>> =3D<BR>>hanging on =
>by=3D20<BR>> the=20
> PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's =
>all<BR>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>black,=3D20<BR>> and tracks may be burnt. Later =
>tooth brush=20
> work reveals that=3D20<BR>> it<BR><BR>>>=20
> seems<BR>>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff =
>=3D<BR>>on=20
> the=3D20<BR>> surface and the tracks =
>*appear*<BR>>> to=20
> be=3D20<BR>> intact.<BR>>><BR>>> So =
>I've=20
> cleaned them both up, reseated =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =
>daughter boards,=20
> dusted them<BR><BR>>> off,<BR>>> and put =
>
> =3D<BR>>them=3D20<BR>> back in. Same error. I try =
>unplugging the 442.=20
> Same. I =3D<BR>>try<BR><BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> using<BR>>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 =
>was=20
> =3D<BR>>still on=3D20<BR>> the MEC <BR>>>=20
> workclock,<BR>>>=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>so...?).<BR>>><BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =
>; I've=20
> already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm =
>sure=3D20<BR>> =20
> is<BR>ok.<BR>>> Would be very odd to have the same =
>error on=20
> =3D<BR>>both, and I=3D20<BR>> thought this =
>error<BR>>> was=20
> EDS-ish.<BR>>><BR>>> So =3D<BR>>I=20
> then=3D20<BR>> try one EDS, then the other, and once again =
>error 7/7.=20
> Do =3D<BR>>you<BR><BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> need<BR>>> any header multi-card cables on a single card =
>system?=20
> =3D<BR>>I=3D20<BR>> forget. =
>Anyhow,<BR>I<BR>>> had=20
> none, and same=3D20<BR>> =
>error.<BR>>><BR>>> I'm=20
> starting to think this is software =
>=3D<BR>>because=3D20<BR>> =20
> everything else has been<BR><BR>>>=20
> swapped<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> out...<BR>>><BR>>>=20
> ...ideas?<BR>>><BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> Cheers,<BR>>> Kim.=20
> =
><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV&=
>gt;<FONT=20
> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A> =20
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>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>"STAY TUNED
>New products coming soon...
>check back often"

I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)

Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might sound
a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly appreciate
what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure somebody
smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty cool
just as it is. ;o)

So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus all
those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the transistor
perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
Therefore you and John will now wrestle!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Kim wrote:
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> "STAY TUNED
>> New products coming soon...
>> check back often"
>
> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>
> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might sound
> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly appreciate
> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure somebody
> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty cool
> just as it is. ;o)
>
> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus all
> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the transistor
> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Hi Aaron,

I don't know the answer to that question. I do know that the other machine
was a MAC. They might have had a later version, since it was done in 2006.
I never upgraded, because my system has been stable for all these years.

Could that be the problem?

Thanks,
Dave




"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>you were BOTH on Paris 2.1 ?
>
>AA
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote in message
>news:476ff6fa$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>> It definitely works for me, because I have tried it, but the client says
>> he is on a tight budget. The whole idea was for him to send me the 3)

>> tunes,
>> I would play back the edited tracks into .wav files, make a CD for him,

>> and
>> then he would just finish up with ProTools, Logic, or whatever.
>> Evidentally
>> the original PARIS system that he recorded and mixed these on doesn't

>> exist
>> anymore.
>>
>> Is there a utility that makes these PPJ's more generic?
>>
>> Also, could I possibly send you (or someone) one of his project files
to
>> see if you can open it?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OK, lemme ask you this... do the audio files have a lot of
>>>punches and/or edits? If not, what about trying to open/import
>>>the files themselves, then save as a new project & start from
>>>there as far as any more overdubbing & mixing you have to do?
>>>
>>>Laborious, to be sure, especially if the files are not labeled
>>>well, but better than not being able to work on them at all.
>>>
>>>Might be worth a try just to see how much of a nightmare it may,
>>>or - if you're lucky - may not, be.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your effort on this.
>>>>
>>>>There are about 20 PPJ files (in three different song directories). They
>>>>are all yielding this same error. The error appears right after selecting
>>>>any of the projects. I am able to create a new PPJ and load in the audio
>>>>files, but that's about it.
>>>>
>>>>I am thinking that it might have to do with a previous plug-in (as you
>> have
>>>>suggested) or possibly an equipment mismatch (I am using the MEC with
one
>>>>card).
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
>>>>>on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
>>>>>plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
>>>>>audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
>>>>>string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
>>>>>file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
>>>>>from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?
>>>>>
>>>>>Just venturing guesses...
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very

>>>>>>beginning
>>>>>>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying
to
>>>>open
>>>>>>each and every one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>>>>>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for
>>>about
>>>>>>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were
>>>produced
>>>>>>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several

>>>>>>>>project
>>>>>>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the

>>>>>>>>error
>>>>>>>right
>>>>>>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any
>> light
>>>>>>>>as to what is going on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Dave-

does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
Like any other error message description?

-steve


"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for about
>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were produced
>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
right
>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
>as to what is going on?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Daveyou may have not read that using a pencil eraser on them might clean them,
or might strip the contact material off of them.


I had to re-silver one of mine once after that happened. Card works fine
-- now.

>
>Hey Kim,
>
>By 'tabs' I mean the male portion of the eds card that slips
>into the PCI slot. I've read that a standard pencil eraser can clean
>then them appropriately. If your deduction is hardware then
>triple check the SCSI cables. I had to say it again. And try another=20
>PCI slot again with a different scsi cable whos pins you've checked.
>
>Mobo maybe?
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
>It must be working retroactively! today is beautiful and warm!

thank you for your celebrating in the future!

-steve

and of course Merry Whatever you choose to do in the present.


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Yes indeed, Happy Solstice. If we all throw good enough parties the sun
will
>come back and days sill start to get longer again!
>
>TCB
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>>
>>peace
>>rick
> http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Jazz_giant_Oscar_Peterson_dead_ at_8_12242007.html

what can you say?"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message
news:47703217$1@linux...
>
> http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Jazz_giant_Oscar_Peterson_dead_ at_8_12242007.html
>
> what can you say?
>

;(No, I haven't...

....however it seems unlikely that both cards went, unless the MB did something
freaky.

I'm very seriously thinking MB at the moment, but we'll start a new thread
after Christmas and go from there. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Have you tried firing up the EDS1000's solo, on each one, and having removed

>the daughter/FX board?
>It's just an eds 500 at that point, BUT it tells you if that portion of
the
>card will work.
>
>AA
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:476f5c2f$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I just tried running on the Interface 2. Same error, so no SCSI cables
at
>> all, which, by the way, visually looked fine, and given I've got two I

>> don't
>> want to get the meter out just yet...
>>
>> ...especially when the Interface 2 won't load...
>>
>> Mmm. And tried the other C16 too...
>>
>> Still could be MB...?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I've re-imaged the hdd with a known working image, which still doesn't

>>>work,
>>>so all software-only solutions are pencilled off the list for now.
>>>
>>>I also tried switching PCI slots. Now admittedly I used the other slot

>>>which
>>>the other EDS was in, so if somehow they both blew then we'd still have
>> trouble.
>>>I'd guess that if more than one has blown then the whole board has blown,
>>>or some BIOS thing may have changed.
>>>
>>>But given I have tried two slots and reimaged the hdd...
>>>
>>>...I'm starting to think the MB is fried. This MB has been nothing but

>>>trouble
>>>after the first couple of weeks. It's been replaced twice and still acts
>>>up. Maybe they don't like my Power Supply or something, but it's a
>>>Truepower.
>>>
>>>Mmm.
>>>
>>>Maybe I should just jump on ebay and find an appropriate second hand
>>>machine
>>>with a 2 gig processor and just hand away my $250 and be fixed...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Kim,
>>>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me 5 times!!!
>>>>Look at the pins and be sure they're straight. Use a different
>>>>one if you have one to swap with. Check it's pins too.
>>>>
>>>>Next thoughts are, one eds - one 442 for hardware, nothing else.
>>>>Remove the default project and start Paris from the .exe only.
>>>>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the tabs on the eds card.
>>>>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI slot. Could be some muck there
=
>>>>too.
>>>>Still getting 7/7 then swap the Mec with the 442 again.
>>>>
>>>>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It burned me and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! =20
>>>>Did I just say that again?
>>>>
>>>>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe not.
>>>>
>>>>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter Creepin' Mongral.
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>PS Last ditch effort reload Paris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:476e03fb$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough,
=
>>>>and it's
>>>> time for makin' toons.
>>>>
>>>> Today I've gone fault finding. I'd been told this error was usually
an
>>>=
>>>>EDS
>>>> thing, so I've ripped (gently ;o) the cards out. One had a little rat
>>>=
>>>>poo.
>>>> Both look kinda warped after standing horizontal with no support in
a
>>>=
>>>>PC
>>>> hanging on by the PCI slot and screw, and one has a point where it's
>> =
>>>>all
>>>> black, and tracks may be burnt. Later tooth brush work reveals that
it
>>>=
>>>>seems
>>>> to be "just" some corrosive stuff on the surface and the tracks =
>>>>*appear*
>>>> to be intact.
>>>>
>>>> So I've cleaned them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted
=
>>>>them off,
>>>> and put them back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I
=
>>>>try using
>>>> the 442 not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC
=
>>>>workclock,
>>>> so...?).
>>>>
>>>> I've already swapped out the C16 with one Deej sent which I'm sure
is
>>>=
>>>>ok.
>>>> Would be very odd to have the same error on both, and I thought this
>> =
>>>>error
>>>> was EDS-ish.
>>>>
>>>> So I then try one EDS, then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do
=
>>>>you need
>>>> any header multi-card cables on a single card system? I forget. =
>>>>Anyhow, I
>>>> had none, and same error.
>>>>
>>>> I'm starting to think this is software because everything else has
=
>>>>been swapped
>>>> out...
>>>>
>>>> ...ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Kim,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>>>>burned me 5=20
>>>>times!!!</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look at the pins and be sure they're=20
>>>>straight. Use a different</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>one if you have one to swap with. =
>>>>Check it's=20
>>>>pins too.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next thoughts are, one eds - one =
>>>>442 for=20
>>>>hardware, nothing else.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Remove the default project and start
=
>>>>Paris from the=20
>>>>.exe only.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try re-erasing the
=
>>>>tabs on the=20
>>>>eds card.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 try a different PCI
>> =
>>>>slot. =20
>>>>Could be some muck there too.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still getting 7/7 then swap =
>>>>the Mec with the=20
>>>>442 again.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Triple check the SCSI 2 cable. It =
>>>>burned me=20
>>>>and 4 Mecs 5 times!!! </FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Did I just say that again?</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe your eds is fried or maybe =
>>>>not.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First thoughts from a Paris Gutter =
>>>>Creepin'=20
>>>>Mongral.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS Last ditch effort reload =
>>>>Paris.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>>>> wrote=20
>>>> in message <A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"news:476e03fb$1@linux">news:476e03fb$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>>>>My=20
>>>> system has been down for long enough, the house is clean enough, and=20
>>>> it's<BR>time for makin' toons.<BR><BR>Today I've gone fault finding.
>> =
>>>>I'd been=20
>>>> told this error was usually an EDS<BR>thing, so I've ripped (gently
=
>>>>;o) the=20
>>>> cards out. One had a little rat poo.<BR>Both look kinda warped after
>> =
>>>>standing=20
>>>> horizontal with no support in a PC<BR>hanging on by the PCI slot and
>> =
>>>>screw,=20
>>>> and one has a point where it's all<BR>black, and tracks may be burnt.
>>>=
>>>>Later=20
>>>> tooth brush work reveals that it seems<BR>to be "just" some corrosive
>>>=
>>>>stuff on=20
>>>> the surface and the tracks *appear*<BR>to be intact.<BR><BR>So I've
=
>>>>cleaned=20
>>>> them both up, reseated the daughter boards, dusted them off,<BR>and
=
>>>>put them=20
>>>> back in. Same error. I try unplugging the 442. Same. I try =
>>>>using<BR>the 442=20
>>>> not the MEC. Same (admittedly the 442 was still on the MEC=20
>>>> workclock,<BR>so...?).<BR><BR>I've already swapped out the C16 with
=
>>>>one Deej=20
>>>> sent which I'm sure is ok.<BR>Would be very odd to have the same error
>>>=
>>>>on=20
>>>> both, and I thought this error<BR>was EDS-ish.<BR><BR>So I then try
=
>>>>one EDS,=20
>>>> then the other, and once again error 7/7. Do you need<BR>any header
=
>>>>multi-card=20
>>>> cables on a single card system? I forget. Anyhow, I<BR>had none, and
>> =
>>>>same=20
>>>> error.<BR><BR>I'm starting to think this is software because =
>>>>everything else=20
>>>> has been =
>>>>swapped<BR>out...<BR><BR>...ideas?<BR><BR>Cheers, <BR>Kim.</BLOCKQUOTE>
>>>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
=
>>>>and=20
>>>>you?<BR><A=20
>>>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>So given I can't track down the camera, just imagine a big dude hunched over
with arms draped ape style saying...

...."OK John. Let's go!!"

;o)

Cheers,
Kim.


Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
>Therefore you and John will now wrestle!
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>Kim wrote:
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> "STAY TUNED
>>> New products coming soon...
>>> check back often"
>>
>> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>>
>> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might
sound
>> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly appreciate
>> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure somebody
>> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty cool
>> just as it is. ;o)
>>
>> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus all
>> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the transistor
>> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.Hey Kim,

Now you got it! It sounds like you're ready to help Festivus to end
quickly. THANK YOU! ;^)

So happy Festivus, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, enlightened Bodhi
Day, merry Kwanzaa, generous Boxing Day, energetic Sadeh, a joyful
solstice/Dong zhi/Modranect/Saturnalia/Yule/Jul/Yalda/Karachun, and a
wonderful whatever-winter-holiday-you-celebrate to all!

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



Kim wrote:
> So given I can't track down the camera, just imagine a big dude hunched over
> with arms draped ape style saying...
>
> ..."OK John. Let's go!!"
>
> ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
>> Therefore you and John will now wrestle!
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Kim wrote:
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> "STAY TUNED
>>>> New products coming soon...
>>>> check back often"
>>> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>>>
>>> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might
> sound
>>> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly appreciate
>>> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure somebody
>>> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty cool
>>> just as it is. ;o)
>>>
>>> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus all
>>> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the transistor
>>> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>Yeah, saw that today as well. I only saw Peterson three times I think, and
all at an age where he was far from young. He was still a wizard, though.
Probably the best show was one at the Village Vanguard. Totally stunning
work, and his band was all guys I'd barely heard of. I think he really shown
when paired up with players who challenged him, his virtuosity and were so
incredible he was best when someone would make him stretch a little.

I'll toast a mug of Solstice Grog to him this evening,

TCB

"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
> http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Jazz_giant_Oscar_Peterson_dead_ at_8_12242007.html
>
>what can you say?
>
>there you go again........ being inclusive and all.

;o)

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47704082@linux...
>
> Hey Kim,
>
> Now you got it! It sounds like you're ready to help Festivus to end
> quickly. THANK YOU! ;^)
>
> So happy Festivus, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, enlightened Bodhi Day,
> merry Kwanzaa, generous Boxing Day, energetic Sadeh, a joyful
> solstice/Dong zhi/Modranect/Saturnalia/Yule/Jul/Yalda/Karachun, and a
> wonderful whatever-winter-holiday-you-celebrate to all!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> Kim wrote:
>> So given I can't track down the camera, just imagine a big dude hunched
>> over
>> with arms draped ape style saying...
>>
>> ..."OK John. Let's go!!"
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
>>> Therefore you and John will now wrestle!
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim wrote:
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> "STAY TUNED
>>>>> New products coming soon...
>>>>> check back often"
>>>> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might
>> sound
>>>> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly
>>>> appreciate
>>>> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure
>>>> somebody
>>>> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty
>>>> cool
>>>> just as it is. ;o)
>>>>
>>>> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus
>>>> all
>>>> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the
>>>> transistor
>>>> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>there you go again........ being inclusive and all.

Mmm... kinda, but not all those options are mutually inclusive. ;o)

Yes, I got it now Jamie. It's a slow morning. It's actually Christmas here
of course...

Cheers,
Kim.

PS. ...which made that Festivus joke a little harder to get of course, because
I got the post Christmas Eve you see... well, that's my excuse and I'm stickin'
to it. ;o)


>
>;o)
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47704082@linux...
>>
>> Hey Kim,
>>
>> Now you got it! It sounds like you're ready to help Festivus to end
>> quickly. THANK YOU! ;^)
>>
>> So happy Festivus, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, enlightened Bodhi
Day,
>> merry Kwanzaa, generous Boxing Day, energetic Sadeh, a joyful
>> solstice/Dong zhi/Modranect/Saturnalia/Yule/Jul/Yalda/Karachun, and a

>> wonderful whatever-winter-holiday-you-celebrate to all!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Kim wrote:
>>> So given I can't track down the camera, just imagine a big dude hunched

>>> over
>>> with arms draped ape style saying...
>>>
>>> ..."OK John. Let's go!!"
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
>>>> Therefore you and John will now wrestle!
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kim wrote:
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "STAY TUNED
>>>>>> New products coming soon...
>>>>>> check back often"
>>>>> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might
>>> sound
>>>>> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly
>>>>> appreciate
>>>>> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure
>>>>> somebody
>>>>> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty

>>>>> cool
>>>>> just as it is. ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus

>>>>> all
>>>>> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the
>>>>> transistor
>>>>> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>
>
>It's already tomorrow morning there? Next you'll claim there's no snow
on the ground! Sheesh. ;^)

Thanks for another great year of running the PARIS group, Kim!

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

PS. There's hardly any snow here and it may not snow tomorrow
(Christmas) either, but I'm OK with that. :^)

PPS. Merry happy, Deej!


Kim wrote:
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>> there you go again........ being inclusive and all.
>
> Mmm... kinda, but not all those options are mutually inclusive. ;o)
>
> Yes, I got it now Jamie. It's a slow morning. It's actually Christmas here
> of course...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> PS. ...which made that Festivus joke a little harder to get of course, because
> I got the post Christmas Eve you see... well, that's my excuse and I'm stickin'
> to it. ;o)
>
>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47704082@linux...
>>> Hey Kim,
>>>
>>> Now you got it! It sounds like you're ready to help Festivus to end
>>> quickly. THANK YOU! ;^)
>>>
>>> So happy Festivus, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, enlightened Bodhi
> Day,
>>> merry Kwanzaa, generous Boxing Day, energetic Sadeh, a joyful
>>> solstice/Dong zhi/Modranect/Saturnalia/Yule/Jul/Yalda/Karachun, and a
>
>>> wonderful whatever-winter-holiday-you-celebrate to all!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim wrote:
>>>> So given I can't track down the camera, just imagine a big dude hunched
>
>>>> over
>>>> with arms draped ape style saying...
>>>>
>>>> ..."OK John. Let's go!!"
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
>>>>> Therefore you and John will now wrestle!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim wrote:
>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "STAY TUNED
>>>>>>> New products coming soon...
>>>>>>> check back often"
>>>>>> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might
>>>> sound
>>>>>> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure
>>>>>> somebody
>>>>>> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty
>
>>>>>> cool
>>>>>> just as it is. ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus
>
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the
>>>>>> transistor
>>>>>> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>
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I feel like I have real friends here, and friendship is not something I =
take lightly. Someone once said that the only real wealth a person ever =
has is friendship, and I think that may be true. What's amazing about =
this group of friends is that I've never met any of you in person, so =
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handful of pictures and sounds.

Perhaps the fact that real friendship can develop from a pure meeting of =
the minds says something about the true nature of human beings.

Happy Holidays to you all, whether you celebrate the Birth of the Son or =
the Return of the Sun or just the abundance of revelry.

And a fantastic 2008 to yez, too.

Love all y'all,

Sarah


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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C84646.5E1EC8F0--To you too Sarah. I'm celebrating Cubase and how it makes me happy. :-)So Kim.....since you live in the future, can you please tell me what stock I
need to buy on Wednesday when the exchange opens again?

;o)

Merry Christmas man,

Deej

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:477046bc$1@linux...
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>there you go again........ being inclusive and all.
>
> Mmm... kinda, but not all those options are mutually inclusive. ;o)
>
> Yes, I got it now Jamie. It's a slow morning. It's actually Christmas here
> of course...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> PS. ...which made that Festivus joke a little harder to get of course,
> because
> I got the post Christmas Eve you see... well, that's my excuse and I'm
> stickin'
> to it. ;o)
>
>
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47704082@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Kim,
>>>
>>> Now you got it! It sounds like you're ready to help Festivus to end
>>> quickly. THANK YOU! ;^)
>>>
>>> So happy Festivus, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, enlightened Bodhi
> Day,
>>> merry Kwanzaa, generous Boxing Day, energetic Sadeh, a joyful
>>> solstice/Dong zhi/Modranect/Saturnalia/Yule/Jul/Yalda/Karachun, and a
>
>>> wonderful whatever-winter-holiday-you-celebrate to all!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim wrote:
>>>> So given I can't track down the camera, just imagine a big dude hunched
>
>>>> over
>>>> with arms draped ape style saying...
>>>>
>>>> ..."OK John. Let's go!!"
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
>>>>> Therefore you and John will now wrestle!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim wrote:
>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "STAY TUNED
>>>>>>> New products coming soon...
>>>>>>> check back often"
>>>>>> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I might
>>>> sound
>>>>>> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly
>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure
>>>>>> somebody
>>>>>> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty
>
>>>>>> cool
>>>>>> just as it is. ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus
>
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the
>>>>>> transistor
>>>>>> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>
>>
>Back at'cha Jaimie. Have a great holiday man. No new snow here either. It's
too cold to snow. It's down around 10 degrees here right now.

;o)

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4770483e$1@linux...
>
> It's already tomorrow morning there? Next you'll claim there's no snow on
> the ground! Sheesh. ;^)
>
> Thanks for another great year of running the PARIS group, Kim!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
> PS. There's hardly any snow here and it may not snow tomorrow (Christmas)
> either, but I'm OK with that. :^)
>
> PPS. Merry happy, Deej!
>
>
> Kim wrote:
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>> there you go again........ being inclusive and all.
>>
>> Mmm... kinda, but not all those options are mutually inclusive. ;o)
>>
>> Yes, I got it now Jamie. It's a slow morning. It's actually Christmas
>> here
>> of course...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> PS. ...which made that Festivus joke a little harder to get of course,
>> because
>> I got the post Christmas Eve you see... well, that's my excuse and I'm
>> stickin'
>> to it. ;o)
>>
>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47704082@linux...
>>>> Hey Kim,
>>>>
>>>> Now you got it! It sounds like you're ready to help Festivus to end
>>>> quickly. THANK YOU! ;^)
>>>>
>>>> So happy Festivus, merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, enlightened Bodhi
>> Day,
>>>> merry Kwanzaa, generous Boxing Day, energetic Sadeh, a joyful
>>>> solstice/Dong zhi/Modranect/Saturnalia/Yule/Jul/Yalda/Karachun, and a
>>
>>>> wonderful whatever-winter-holiday-you-celebrate to all!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kim wrote:
>>>>> So given I can't track down the camera, just imagine a big dude
>>>>> hunched
>>
>>>>> over
>>>>> with arms draped ape style saying...
>>>>>
>>>>> ..."OK John. Let's go!!"
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You're right, but I'm afraid you don't get Festivus at all, Kim.
>>>>>> Therefore you and John will now wrestle!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim wrote:
>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "STAY TUNED
>>>>>>>> New products coming soon...
>>>>>>>> check back often"
>>>>>>> I do get the feeling Edmund is having a giggle somewhere... ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Methinks it is important in life to appreciate what you have. I
>>>>>>> might
>>>>> sound
>>>>>>> a little Buddhist here, but I would say "Only when you properly
>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>> what you have will you properly appreciate having more". I'm sure
>>>>>>> somebody
>>>>>>> smart said that before me already, but really, Paris is still pretty
>>
>>>>>>> cool
>>>>>>> just as it is. ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So thanks to Edmund, and Steven if he's watching somewhere... plus
>>
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> those other unnamed souls who contributed... the inventor of the
>>>>>>> transistor
>>>>>>> perhaps. Now I'm just being silly... or am I? ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>
>>Bb min7+9

.....another leader of the band.
MR


"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
> http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Jazz_giant_Oscar_Peterson_dead_ at_8_12242007.html
>
>what can you say?
>
>I appreciate your thoughts ...and share them. Merry Christmas to your and
yours, and all here at the Paris NG!
MR

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>------=_NextPart_001_0023_01C84646.5E1EC8F0
>
>I feel like I have real friends here, and friendship is not something I
=
>take lightly. Someone once said that the only real wealth a person ever
=
>has is friendship, and I think that may be true. What's amazing about =
>this group of friends is that I've never met any of you in person, so =
>the closeness I feel is based solely on written communications, and a =
>handful of pictures and sounds.
>
>Perhaps the fact that real friendship can develop from a pure meeting of
=
>the minds says something about the true nature of human beings.
>
>Happy Holidays to you all, whether you celebrate the Birth of the Son or
=
>the Return of the Sun or just the abundance of revelry.
>
>And a fantastic 2008 to yez, too.
>
>Love all y'all,
>
>Sarah
>
>
>Actual snowflake photograph
>(I know, I put this up last year, too, but I love these things. They =
>just fall out of the sky like this!)
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:pgrum3d8va304gp78gmi3qlr82l17gs294@4ax.com...
>> and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>> everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>>=20
>> peace
>> rick
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Love all y'all,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>and a belated=20
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>be safe=20
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>rick</FONT></BODY></HTML>
>
>------=_NextPart_001_0023_01C84646.5E1EC8F0--
>Just wanted to say that ...'cause they are.
MRHi Steve,

When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that says:

"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."

The project window is left completely blank.

Thanks,
dave


"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>Dave-
>
>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>Like any other error message description?
>
>-steve
>
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for about
>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were produced
>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several project
>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the error
>right
>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any light
>>as to what is going on?
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Dave
>Same here. You guys have a good one.

:o)


"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pgrum3d8va304gp78gmi3qlr82l17gs294@4ax.com...
> and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
> everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
> peace
> rickMy best to all of y'all... It's a real pleasure to be a part of this antique
loving digital group of guys and girls... :)

Looking forward to seeing what the New Year (and Mike Audet) bring us...

:)



"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>Same here. You guys have a good one.
>
>:o)
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:pgrum3d8va304gp78gmi3qlr82l17gs294@4ax.com...
>> and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>> everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>>
>> peace
>> rick
>
>Hi all,

i have a couple of Ensoniq samplers and i am trying to import sounds from
other brands by "Translator"(Rubber Chicken's program).
Problem is, with "Nero" it seems not a fine friendship...i am just throwing
cds into the dustbin, wether under XP or 98SE.
What burning software you found working well instead?Happy Holidays!!

Thanks for all the help, advice, clever dialogue and pictures of very large
dogs!!

Seriously, the best of the season to all of you!!

Cheers,
Jon


orick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rickDave, I hope I'm wrong, but this may apply. It's an old post by the guy who
wrote Paris.

on the other hand, it may not. Only Edmund would know for sure...

Subject:Re: Error Code City
Date:Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0400
From:pirali@intdevices.com (Edmund Pirali)
Newsgroups:rec.audio.ensoniqparis

In article <37141A80.69AD694A@cactusville.com>, cactusfire@cactusville.com
wrote:

> When I try to open some recoverd (by Unerase) Paris files I get some
> problems. On the .ppj files it's Error in Reading Project code:
> 1879048221/7000001d, and trying to add .paf files its
> 1879048226/70000022. All of the other file types I rescued work fine,
> and I don't think these should be corrupt, as nothing was written
to the
> disk before recovery. I would love any assistance in completing my
> resurrection. Thanks,

7000001d = peFileHeaderCorrupt = project file data is corrupted
70000022 = peAudioFileCorrupted = audio file data is corrupted

Data on the disk is not valid. Sorry.

------------------------
Edmund Pirali
Intelligent Devices, Inc.



"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that says:
>
>"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."
>
>The project window is left completely blank.
>
>Thanks,
>dave
>
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>
>>Dave-
>>
>>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>>Like any other error message description?
>>
>>-steve
>>I like Christmas songs a lot, too. You've reminded me that in 1988, after
I'd recently discovered sequencing and samplers and had become a complete
midiot, I sat down with my Atari 1040 and my best friend Brenda and made a
Christmas album. It was pretty ragged, but I posted some of the better ones
here --- http://www.sarahtonin.com/christmas.htm

Hope you like 'em,

S


"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:477068c6$1@linux...
>
> Just wanted to say that ...'cause they are.
> MRHave very Merry Christmas To all my fellow Paris(ites)and to your family and
love ones..
Love From the,
The Davis Family

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rickhe Best.. Simply the best.. Will be missed

"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
> http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Jazz_giant_Oscar_Peterson_dead_ at_8_12242007.html
>
>what can you say?
>
>This looks interesting.. http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/Karma-Lab-Oasys-So ftware.htmlYeah, interesting for $169, if you already have an eight-
thousand-dollar Oasys synth lol

:)


"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>This looks interesting.. http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/Karma-Lab-Oasys-So ftware.htmlMerry christmas and/or Happy holydays to you all from Norway.
Walked home from celebration with family tonight. A little half an
hour walking with only the moon and stars as guests, lighten up my
way. Not any snow but the ground was freezing.

Erling

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:33:13 -0500, rick <parnell68@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>
>peace
>rickaussies are sworn to secrecy in the whole time continuum thing...i
know cuz i've tried...alas to no avail...sighYeah I saw that..Dohhhh :)

"Neil" <IOIOU@IOU.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, interesting for $169, if you already have an eight-
>thousand-dollar Oasys synth lol
>
>:)
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>This looks interesting.. http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/Karma-Lab-Oasys-So ftware.html
>Yes, Merry Christmas to everyone here from me as well.
Rod
"John Macy" <nospamjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>My best to all of y'all... It's a real pleasure to be a part of this antique
>loving digital group of guys and girls... :)
>
>Looking forward to seeing what the New Year (and Mike Audet) bring us...
>
>:)
>
>
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>Same here. You guys have a good one.
>>
>>:o)
>>
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:pgrum3d8va304gp78gmi3qlr82l17gs294@4ax.com...
>>> and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>>> everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>>>
>>> peace
>>> rick
>>
>>
>Yeah, I've always thought Korg really bolloxed up OASYS. It was some of the
best sounding DSP based synthesis I've ever heard, right up there Creamware
and Waldorf and Access and the big boys. It's been a while since I've used
it but I remember it being one of the first 'in the box' things that really
got the 'rip' right on the oscillators and filters. The studio monitors sounded
like they were going to blow up. The same tech would be great in an external
box like my (really cool) Liquid Mix if they had written a DAW front end
for it, which doesn't seem like rocket science anymore.

I think they still are handicapped by the 'we build boxes' mentality. Which
is fine, maybe they can make money doing that, but it let OASYS wither on
the vine in the worst way.

Anyway, native synths are getting really, really close to being as good as
any DSP synth I've ever heard, so even if Korg really did something right
with the tech now we'd be using phrases that include the words 'locked,'
'barn door,' 'horse,' and 'bolted.'

TCB

"Neil" <IOIOU@IOU.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, interesting for $169, if you already have an eight-
>thousand-dollar Oasys synth lol
>
>:)
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>This looks interesting.. http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/Karma-Lab-Oasys-So ftware.html
>Thanks to all of you for being here. I have a bunch of friends who I've never
met. Have a happy and safe holiday season...

GanttMerry Christmas LaMont. If you've got the time in the next few days, could
you send me those pics of the Euphonics control surface that you were never
given and that you don't have?

;oD

animix at animas dot net

"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4770bb50$1@linux...
>
> Have very Merry Christmas To all my fellow Paris(ites)and to your family
> and
> love ones..
> Love From the,
> The Davis Family
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
>>everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
>>
>>peace
>>rick
>Hi, Merry christmas.
Is G4 1.2 or 1.42 best for Paris (sigle or d.p)
Thanks.could be. If he was on paris version 3 then you wouldn't be able to open his
ppj's unless he saved in a specific way (like no FX on any auxes, anywhere).

AA

"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote in message
news:47701069@linux...
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I don't know the answer to that question. I do know that the other machine
> was a MAC. They might have had a later version, since it was done in
> 2006.
> I never upgraded, because my system has been stable for all these years.
>
> Could that be the problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>you were BOTH on Paris 2.1 ?
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote in message
>>news:476ff6fa$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi Neil,
>>>
>>> It definitely works for me, because I have tried it, but the client says
>>> he is on a tight budget. The whole idea was for him to send me the 3)
>
>>> tunes,
>>> I would play back the edited tracks into .wav files, make a CD for him,
>
>>> and
>>> then he would just finish up with ProTools, Logic, or whatever.
>>> Evidentally
>>> the original PARIS system that he recorded and mixed these on doesn't
>
>>> exist
>>> anymore.
>>>
>>> Is there a utility that makes these PPJ's more generic?
>>>
>>> Also, could I possibly send you (or someone) one of his project files
> to
>>> see if you can open it?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>OK, lemme ask you this... do the audio files have a lot of
>>>>punches and/or edits? If not, what about trying to open/import
>>>>the files themselves, then save as a new project & start from
>>>>there as far as any more overdubbing & mixing you have to do?
>>>>
>>>>Laborious, to be sure, especially if the files are not labeled
>>>>well, but better than not being able to work on them at all.
>>>>
>>>>Might be worth a try just to see how much of a nightmare it may,
>>>>or - if you're lucky - may not, be.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for your effort on this.
>>>>>
>>>>>There are about 20 PPJ files (in three different song directories).
>>>>>They
>>>>>are all yielding this same error. The error appears right after
>>>>>selecting
>>>>>any of the projects. I am able to create a new PPJ and load in the
>>>>>audio
>>>>>files, but that's about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am thinking that it might have to do with a previous plug-in (as you
>>> have
>>>>>suggested) or possibly an equipment mismatch (I am using the MEC with
> one
>>>>>card).
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
>>>>>>on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
>>>>>>plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
>>>>>>audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
>>>>>>string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
>>>>>>file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
>>>>>>from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just venturing guesses...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very
>
>>>>>>>beginning
>>>>>>>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying
> to
>>>>>open
>>>>>>>each and every one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>>>>>>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems for
>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that were
>>>>produced
>>>>>>>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several
>
>>>>>>>>>project
>>>>>>>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the
>
>>>>>>>>>error
>>>>>>>>right
>>>>>>>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed any
>>> light
>>>>>>>>>as to what is going on?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>as long as either does 9.whatever it should fine. as to the dp thing
i don't think paris utilizes the second proc. due to the software.

On 26 Dec 2007 03:46:29 +1000, "ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Hi, Merry christmas.
>Is G4 1.2 or 1.42 best for Paris (sigle or d.p)
>Thanks.I’ve been AWOL, but it’s all been good. A mix of lots of music projects and
a new lady have kept me busy and happy.

I hope you are all safe and happy too.

Merry Christmas

GeneHello Mike,

Wow, I had not realized you were coding (codding, codeing, codine :(-)) for
Paris...

PayPal accomplished and

Feliz Navidad...!!!!


El Miguel















"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:476b13c2$1@linux...
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just posted my shinny, new multiband compressor for PARIS. It's a
> combo
> of the X-Over and the PARIS Compressor, stitched together is EDS assembler
> for your mixing and mastering pleasure. I wish I'd had this thing for the
> last 10 years when dealing with boomy acoustic guitars.
>
> As always, you can download it at www.ensoniq.ca. Just scroll down to the
> bottom of the page.
>
> Please let me know what you think of this one. I'm dying to hear how/if
> these plugins are being used.
>
> Also, please send me $$$$$! I'm broke, and I need to get my girlfriend a
> ring!!!!
>
> Cheers!
> MikeWhy would anyone be MIA?


rammahannaquansmas

Merry Christmas, Happy Chanuka, Feliz Navidad, Rammadan Greetings, Quansa
Blessings...!


Regards,

El Miguel (the hidden)
















"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:47714290$1@linux...
>
> I've been AWOL, but it's all been good. A mix of lots of music projects
> and
> a new lady have kept me busy and happy.
>
> I hope you are all safe and happy too.
>
> Merry Christmas
>
> Gene
>Hmm... it seems this software just communicates with a hardware
"Oasis", or have I misunderstood something?

From Karma-Lab's homesite:

KARMA Oasys Features: KARMA Oasys software runs on your PC/Mac and
communicates with your Korg OASYS via a standard MIDI Interface
connection.

Erling

On 26 Dec 2007 02:10:34 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Yeah I saw that..Dohhhh :)
>
>"Neil" <IOIOU@IOU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, interesting for $169, if you already have an eight-
>>thousand-dollar Oasys synth lol
>>
>>:)
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This looks interesting.. http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/Karma-Lab-Oasys-So ftware.html
>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92421 is a reply to message #92419] Mon, 05 November 2007 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ic, Sarah!

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Sarah wrote:
> I feel like I have real friends here, and friendship is not something I
> take lightly. Someone once said that the only real wealth a person ever
> has is friendship, and I think that may be true. What's amazing about
> this group of friends is that I've never met any of you in person, so
> the closeness I feel is based solely on written communications, and a
> handful of pictures and sounds.
>
> Perhaps the fact that real friendship can develop from a pure meeting of
> the minds says something about the true nature of human beings.
>
> Happy Holidays to you all, whether you celebrate the Birth of the Son or
> the Return of the Sun or just the abundance of revelry.
>
> And a fantastic 2008 to yez, too.
>
> Love all y'all,
>
> Sarah
>
> Actual snowflake photograph
> (I know, I put this up last year, too, but I love these things. They
> just fall out of the sky like this!)
>
>
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com <mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com>> wrote in
> message news:pgrum3d8va304gp78gmi3qlr82l17gs294@4ax.com...
> > and a belated Chanukah to those who celebrate that. Above all,
> > everyone be safe if your holiday involves travel.
> >
> > peace
> > rickLife is good indeed. Glad your friend is OK.

We're having a snowstorm here in Colorado after all, sorry you're
missing
Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92423 is a reply to message #92414] Mon, 05 November 2007 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Akai S1000. I think. Might've been an Emu sumpnerother. But I think it
was the Akai. And Hybrid Arts SMPTEtrack running it all on the Atari
1040ST. I dragged my friend Brenda in to do the vocals. She'd never been
in a studio before, and was really nervous, but she did OK.

I was addicted to midi for about 5 years there, and became something of a
recluse. I've recovered now and much prefer to work with humans, in spite
of all the problems that come with them. :)

S


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:mfa3n3dl3hib8t9js073knaujcuc4m26v9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:47:03 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I like Christmas songs a lot, too. You've reminded me that in 1988, after
>>I'd recently discovered sequencing and samplers and had become a complete
>>midiot, I sat down with my Atari 1040 and my best friend Brenda and made a
>>Christmas album. It was pretty ragged, but I posted some of the better
>>ones
>>here --- http://www.sarahtonin.com/christmas.htm
>>
>>Hope you like 'em,
>>
> I do! Very nice instrumentation!
>
> What synths did you use?
>
> pabI still have my Atari, too. I even dug it out and fired it up a few years
ago so I could export all those SMPTEtrack song files as midi files to use
in Cubase.

Thanks for the compliments. The concept was to try to do each song in a
completely different style, so it was a fun arranging exercise. There were
15 songs on the original cassette release, but some will never again be
allowed out in public. :)

S


"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47719f2c$1@linux...
>
> Thanks Sarah. I'm listening as I write this. Your arrangements go right
> to it: one of the great things about xmas songs is that the melodies are
> so strong that they can be orchestrated in so many different and wonderful
> ways. A pleasure to listen to your music. Reminds me of my Atari
> days -which
> were also happening in '88. I've still got my 1040, wrapped in plastic
> and
> safetly in storage. I'm taking it with me to the fifth world.
> MR
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>I like Christmas songs a lot, too. You've reminded me that in 1988, after
>
>>I'd recently discovered sequencing and samplers and had become a complete
>
>>midiot, I sat down with my Atari 1040 and my best friend Brenda and made
> a
>>Christmas album. It was pretty ragged, but I posted some of the better
> ones
>>here --- http://www.sarahtonin.com/christmas.htm
>>
>>Hope you like 'em,
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>>"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:477068c6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Just wanted to say that ...'cause they are.
>>> MR
>>
>>
>Thanks. My server overloaded? What does that mean? Should I worry?

S


"steve the artguy" <artguy@eaglenebula.com> wrote in message
news:4771e6e6@linux...
>
> Very nice -- at least all that I heard until your server overloaded.
>
> I didn't know you had those other old things online as well.
>
> You have lots of very nice stuff. Even more than I knew...
>
> -steve
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>I like Christmas songs a lot, too. You've reminded me that in 1988, after
>
>>I'd recently discovered sequencing and samplers and had become a complete
>
>>midiot, I sat down with my Atari 1040 and my best friend Brenda and made
> a
>>Christmas album. It was pretty ragged, but I posted some of the better
> ones
>>here --- http://www.sarahtonin.com/christmas.htm
>>
>>Hope you like 'em,
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>>"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:477068c6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Just wanted to say that ...'cause they are.
>>> MR
>>
>>
>Nice. I particularly enjoyed the car thief getting tossed off the bridge.

S


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4771b48c@linux...
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote in message news:47716abc@linux...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avOiTUcD4Y
>>
>> ;o)
>
>
> Thanks DJ, I needed that
>Hi Aaron,

If that is the case, do you or anyone else want a pretty good and easy paying
mail gig? The artist is a fairly well known jazz flutist.

Please contact me off line if interested.

Thanks,
Dave

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>could be. If he was on paris version 3 then you wouldn't be able to open
his
>ppj's unless he saved in a specific way (like no FX on any auxes, anywhere).
>
>AA
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote in message
>news:47701069@linux...
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> I don't know the answer to that question. I do know that the other machine
>> was a MAC. They might have had a later version, since it was done in

>> 2006.
>> I never upgraded, because my system has been stable for all these years.
>>
>> Could that be the problem?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>you were BOTH on Paris 2.1 ?
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote in message
>>>news:476ff6fa$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>>
>>>> It definitely works for me, because I have tried it, but the client
says
>>>> he is on a tight budget. The whole idea was for him to send me the 3)
>>
>>>> tunes,
>>>> I would play back the edited tracks into .wav files, make a CD for him,
>>
>>>> and
>>>> then he would just finish up with ProTools, Logic, or whatever.
>>>> Evidentally
>>>> the original PARIS system that he recorded and mixed these on doesn't
>>
>>>> exist
>>>> anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a utility that makes these PPJ's more generic?
>>>>
>>>> Also, could I possibly send you (or someone) one of his project files
>> to
>>>> see if you can open it?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, lemme ask you this... do the audio files have a lot of
>>>>>punches and/or edits? If not, what about trying to open/import
>>>>>the files themselves, then save as a new project & start from
>>>>>there as far as any more overdubbing & mixing you have to do?
>>>>>
>>>>>Laborious, to be sure, especially if the files are not labeled
>>>>>well, but better than not being able to work on them at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Might be worth a try just to see how much of a nightmare it may,
>>>>>or - if you're lucky - may not, be.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for your effort on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are about 20 PPJ files (in three different song directories).

>>>>>>They
>>>>>>are all yielding this same error. The error appears right after
>>>>>>selecting
>>>>>>any of the projects. I am able to create a new PPJ and load in the

>>>>>>audio
>>>>>>files, but that's about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am thinking that it might have to do with a previous plug-in (as
you
>>>> have
>>>>>>suggested) or possibly an equipment mismatch (I am using the MEC with
>> one
>>>>>>card).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Neil" <IOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I wonder if it has to do with some type of plugin that was used
>>>>>>>on the project that you may not have (like a particular DirectX
>>>>>>>plugin or a VST plug in a wrapper, etc)? Or perhaps a corrupt
>>>>>>>audio file... the only time I remember getting a big long error
>>>>>>>string code like that in Paris, it turned out to be a corrupt
>>>>>>>file due to abd drive sector. Is it happeneing on all projects
>>>>>>>from the Mac, or are you just trying one particular project?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just venturing guesses...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Neil,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for the response.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, they all have the .ppj extension. It is something in the very
>>
>>>>>>>>beginning
>>>>>>>>of each PPJ file, because the error appears immediately upon trying
>> to
>>>>>>open
>>>>>>>>each and every one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Do those Mac project files have a file extension on them?
>>>>>>>>>If not, maybe try adding that (.ppj) & see if they'll open.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I am have been running PARIS 2.1 on a WIN98 PC without problems
for
>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>8 years now. Yesterday, a client sent me 3 tunes on a DVD that
were
>>>>>produced
>>>>>>>>>>with PARIS on a MAC. There are 32 tracks each. There are several
>>
>>>>>>>>>>project
>>>>>>>>>>files. Everytime I try to open any of the project files I get the
>>
>>>>>>>>>>error
>>>>>>>>>right
>>>>>>>>>>after selecting it. So they don't open at all. Can anyone shed
any
>>>> light
>>>>>>>>>>as to what is going on?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Hey guys (and gal). I am probably going to try to purchase a laptop before
the end of the year. While I have built several desktop audio workstations
for myself and friends, I have never owned a laptop. Sooooo.....I am asking
for some suggestions. I want to be able to run my audio apps on it (other
than Paris)
Cubase, Protools LE, abelton Reason, etc. Any thing to stay away from?
Thanks
Rodmy suggestion would be to get a refurb. I just purchased a refurb core duo
gateway from tiger direct for $700.
the problem is getting anything new with XP Pro loaded.I was going to just
get a new laptop,wipe vista ,and load a fresh copy of XP. problem is you may
end up with problems finding the right drivers.
anyway, gateway was not my 1st choice ,but the price was right. and they
extended(gateway) the warranty for a full extra year.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:477277b6$1@linux...
>
> Hey guys (and gal). I am probably going to try to purchase a laptop before
> the end of the year. While I have built several desktop audio workstations
> for myself and friends, I have never owned a laptop. Sooooo.....I am
> asking
> for some suggestions. I want to be able to run my audio apps on it (other
> than Paris)
> Cubase, Protools LE, abelton Reason, etc. Any thing to stay away from?
> Thanks
> RodA few things off the top of my head.

- What kind of audio interface do you want to use? Be sure it's compatible
with the laptop. A lot of laptops now are shipping with only mini-PCI cards,
not cardbus. You can still use USB or firewire but that can raise it's own
set of problems.

- It's still probably best to get a real video card, i.e. not one with shared
memory. Shared memory isn't the total performance killer it was a few years
ago, but it's still not best to be sharing that memory if you have a choice.


- Up the RAM to at least 2GB for XP or even more for Vista. I usually buy
the smallest amount of RAM and drive space possible and then get the upgrades
from somewhere else.

- When upgrading the drive in particular be sure you get the right part.
A lot of laptops are SATA these days, some are still ATA, but they're almost
never both.

- With laptops there's a tendency to have more 'application creep,' that
is, you wind up wanting to surf with it, read email, check newsgroups, etc.
A lot of us have dedicated audio machines but not a lot of us are willing
to carry two laptops around when we travel in particular. I think the best
way around this is the 'run your non audio apps in a vm' trick. VirtualBox
is the way I go.

I'm looking pretty seriously at a new laptop before year end as well. It
will be dedicated to doing Traktor Scratch work for me, so I'll be using
a USB interface. I generally buy Dell, and if I wind up with a particular
config I'll let you know here.

TCB

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Hey guys (and gal). I am probably going to try to purchase a laptop before
>the end of the year. While I have built several desktop audio workstations
>for myself and friends, I have never owned a laptop. Sooooo.....I am asking
>for some suggestions. I want to be able to run my audio apps on it (other
>than Paris)
>Cubase, Protools LE, abelton Reason, etc. Any thing to stay away from?
>Thanks
>Rod. . . kicks major amounts of booty. I'm always a little scared of v. 1 of
ANYTHING NI does, and a lot scared of ANYTHING NI does in hardware, but I
took the jump on this one after a few friends I trust really talked it up.


The audio interface is pretty snazzy as well, though the I/O is all RCA's
which is SOP in the DJ world.

Still haven't really stress tested it, like leaving it running over night
with a CD sending in the timecode and looping a track. but so far I'm damned
impressed. It looks like they have the leading product in the segment.

TCBThanks Thad. I will probably need suggestions on an audio interface also.
That being said, I can get whatever, so the computer doesn't have to work
with any certian "already existing" audio interface. Initially I will want
to be using this on the road to do nuts and bolts stuff (edit, time correct,
autotune, etc) during down time, as well as email, ebay, forums, etc. I don't
want to take 2 laptops with me.
I also will want to use it for portable apps to take to sessions (stylus,
reason, etc) eventually.


>- It's still probably best to get a real video card, i.e. not one with shared
>memory. Shared memory isn't the total performance killer it was a few years
>ago, but it's still not best to be sharing that memory if you have a choice.

Good to know, I suppose I'll have to wait and see what I get computer wise
first, correct? any suggestions?
>- Up the RAM to at least 2GB for XP or even more for Vista. I usually buy
>the smallest amount of RAM and drive space possible and then get the upgrades
>from somewhere else.

I'm thinking I want to stay away from Vista at this point, is that correct?
Will I have to buy one with vista, then re-load xp on it, or can you still
buy new laptops with XP loaded?
>
>- With laptops there's a tendency to have more 'application creep,' that
>is, you wind up wanting to surf with it, read email, check newsgroups, etc.
>A lot of us have dedicated audio machines but not a lot of us are willing
>to carry two laptops around when we travel in particular. I think the best
>way around this is the 'run your non audio apps in a vm' trick. VirtualBox
>is the way I go.
I was wonering about that.
>I'm looking pretty seriously at a new laptop before year end as well. It
>will be dedicated to doing Traktor Scratch work for me, so I'll be using
>a USB interface. I generally buy Dell, and if I wind up with a particular
>config I'll let you know here.

Thanks
Rodthanks for the info
rod"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>Thanks Thad. I will probably need suggestions on an audio interface also.
>That being said, I can get whatever, so the computer doesn't have to work
>with any certian "already existing" audio interface. Initially I will want
>to be using this on the road to do nuts and bolts stuff (edit, time correct,
>autotune, etc) during down time, as well as email, ebay, forums, etc. I
don't
>want to take 2 laptops with me.
>I also will want to use it for portable apps to take to sessions (stylus,
>reason, etc) eventually.
>
>
>>- It's still probably best to get a real video card, i.e. not one with
shared
>>memory. Shared memory isn't the total performance killer it was a few years
>>ago, but it's still not best to be sharing that memory if you have a choice.
>
>Good to know, I suppose I'll have to wait and see what I get computer wise
>first, correct? any suggestions?

Yeah, you (almost always) can't a laptop video card after the fact. Just
look at the specs and see if there is a card listed that isn't 'integratred'
or that doesn't share memory.

>>- Up the RAM to at least 2GB for XP or even more for Vista. I usually buy
>>the smallest amount of RAM and drive space possible and then get the upgrades
>>from somewhere else.
>
>I'm thinking I want to stay away from Vista at this point, is that correct?
>Will I have to buy one with vista, then re-load xp on it, or can you still
>buy new laptops with XP loaded?

Some vendors will sell laptops with XP, but usually only on some models.
That's the case with Dell. SO FAR I have yet to see a Vista machine that
I can't shoehorn XP onto, but I can't say for sure that will remain true
in the future. M$oft is pushing hard on getting their OEMs to only support
Vista.

>>
>>- With laptops there's a tendency to have more 'application creep,' that
>>is, you wind up wanting to surf with it, read email, check newsgroups,
etc.
>>A lot of us have dedicated audio machines but not a lot of us are willing
>>to carry two laptops around when we travel in particular. I think the best
>>way around this is the 'run your non audio apps in a vm' trick. VirtualBox
>>is the way I go.
>I was wonering about that.
>>I'm looking pretty seriously at a new laptop before year end as well. It
>>will be dedicated to doing Traktor Scratch work for me, so I'll be using
>>a USB interface. I generally buy Dell, and if I wind up with a particular
>>config I'll let you know here.
>
>Thanks
>Rod


TCBFYI, OS 9 does utilize DPs, but it will not benefit Paris. A single processor
machine is preferable for Paris. The dual 1.25 machine runs hot and it's
loud. Either machine can boot in to OS9 or OSX.

"Colin Simpson" <c_simpson@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
>It's the single processor 1.25Ghz MDD, which can only boot into OS9.2.2.
I
>believe that the Firewire 800 models are no good for this, only the FW400
>MoBo will boot with 9.2.2 and run PARIS successfully. Cheers, Colin S.
>
> "ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>Thanks pab!
>>Wich MDD do you mine?
>>Greets,
>>
>>
>>
>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:39:44 -0500, rick <parnell68@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>as long as either does 9.whatever it should fine. as to the dp thing
>>>>i don't think paris utilizes the second proc. due to the software.
>>>>
>>>>On 26 Dec 2007 03:46:29 +1000, "ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, Merry christmas.
>>>>>Is G4 1.2 or 1.42 best for Paris (sigle or d.p)
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Correct. A DP machine will be a waste, unless you can get one for the
>>>same price. OS9 won't use the DP's natively, and Paris certainly
>>>won't.
>>>
>>>You need to make sure the G4 will boot into OS9 natively, NOT in
>>>Classic. If it won't boot into 9 on its own, then it's useless to
>>>you.
>>>
>>>There is one MDD model that's the last one they made with 9.2 booting
>>>ability -- that's the fastest Mac you can use.
>>>
>>>pab
>>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20071226/D8TPA6IO2.html"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20071226/D8TPA6IO2.html

Yeah, AAPL is now trading at GOOG like multiples, north of 50X earnings.
At the same time INTC and MSFT are trading at half of that P/E or less. I'd
be interested to see the market value in 2-3 years if one shorted $10k each
of AAPL and GOOG today and bought $10k each of INTC and MSFT. Sounds like
an interesting trade to me, but I'm still not going to make it.

TCBthere's no shortage of sheepleHi Steve,

Thanks for the response. I wonder what Edmund is doing these days?

Someone had suggested that this might be a simple matter of a version mismatch.
I am now also tending to lean that way. I am running 2.2, and these are probably
3.0 project files. I think the audio files are fine. I was able to load them
into a new project.

My customer needs assistance. Do you know anybody with 3.0 (preferably MAC)
that can help him? I have all the files on DVD that his producer has sent.
These are finished projects. There are three tunes with 32 tracks each. What
he needs is each comped track recorded to a .wav file. So that is probably
3-4 hours of work? (96 tracks) This is a paying gig and you (or whoever wants
to help) can charge accordingly. I have already given him a quote, but told
him I would try to find someone to take the project and would not charge
him.

I am in the Los Angeles area, and the producer and artist live in San Diego.
Please contact me off-line if you can help.

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Dave Richardson
Compact Recording Systems


"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>Dave, I hope I'm wrong, but this may apply. It's an old post by the guy
who
>wrote Paris.
>
>on the other hand, it may not. Only Edmund would know for sure...
>
> Subject:Re: Error Code City
> Date:Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0400
> From:pirali@intdevices.com (Edmund Pirali)
> Newsgroups:rec.audio.ensoniqparis
>
> In article <37141A80.69AD694A@cactusville.com>, cactusfire@cactusville.com
> wrote:
>
> > When I try to open some recoverd (by Unerase) Paris files I get some
> > problems. On the .ppj files it's Error in Reading Project code:
> > 1879048221/7000001d, and trying to add .paf files its
> > 1879048226/70000022. All of the other file types I rescued work fine,
> > and I don't think these should be corrupt, as nothing was written
>to the
> > disk before recovery. I would love any assistance in completing my
> > resurrection. Thanks,
>
> 7000001d = peFileHeaderCorrupt = project file data is corrupted
> 70000022 = peAudioFileCorrupted = audio file data is corrupted
>
> Data on the disk is not valid. Sorry.
>
> ------------------------
> Edmund Pirali
> Intelligent Devices, Inc.
>
>
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that says:
>>
>>"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."
>>
>>The project window is left completely blank.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>dave
>>
>>
>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Dave-
>>>
>>>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>>>Like any other error message description?
>>>
>>>-steve
>>>The brief overview...

I've restored an image to the HDD of a working Windows Image with Ghost,
so in theory all software possibilities are gone. This is an image I have
restored several times already, so I'm very sure it should be fault free.

I have tried each of my two EDS cards on their own. I have reseated the daughter
boards, cleaned off any dust or dirt from the cards, and tried both cards
with the MEC and the 442 which each have their own SCSI cable. As a last
attempt I switched C16's and unplugged the MEC/442 and used just an Interface
2 which I bought from Deej a while back. Same error still.

So three different interfaces, two different EDS cards, two different PCI
slots and a new working HDD image all yield the same results.

Error 7/7.

It's the MB isn't it? Or Power Supply? Now that I read back what I've done,
it has to be.

How irritating.

The MB has needed replacing since the dawn of man. I've had about enough
of it. Perhaps I should get something else. It's a Gigabyte Ultra one...
what's the model...? KX9S or something? You know the ones...

Grrr... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.Dave-

I haven't cranked up 3.0 in years.

Nappy is in San Diego. Don't know if he's still using Paris 3.0, or if he
still has it, but I see a post from him from April where he was looking for
a C16 cable, so maybe he's still using it.

If not, he might well know someone in the area who does.

-steve

"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>Thanks for the response. I wonder what Edmund is doing these days?
>
>Someone had suggested that this might be a simple matter of a version mismatch.
>I am now also tending to lean that way. I am running 2.2, and these are
probably
>3.0 project files. I think the audio files are fine. I was able to load
them
>into a new project.
>
>My customer needs assistance. Do you know anybody with 3.0 (preferably MAC)
>that can help him? I have all the files on DVD that his producer has sent.
>These are finished projects. There are three tunes with 32 tracks each.
What
>he needs is each comped track recorded to a .wav file. So that is probably
>3-4 hours of work? (96 tracks) This is a paying gig and you (or whoever
wants
>to help) can charge accordingly. I have already given him a quote, but told
>him I would try to find someone to take the project and would not charge
>him.
>
>I am in the Los Angeles area, and the producer and artist live in San Diego.
>Please contact me off-line if you can help.
>
>Thanks in advance for the assistance.
>
>Dave Richardson
>Compact Recording Systems
>
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>
>>Dave, I hope I'm wrong, but this may apply. It's an old post by the guy
>who
>>wrote Paris.
>>
>>on the other hand, it may not. Only Edmund would know for sure...
>>
>> Subject:Re: Error Code City
>> Date:Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0400
>> From:pirali@intdevices.com (Edmund Pirali)
>> Newsgroups:rec.audio.ensoniqparis
>>
>> In article <37141A80.69AD694A@cactusville.com>, cactusfire@cactusville.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> > When I try to open some recoverd (by Unerase) Paris files I get
some
>> > problems. On the .ppj files it's Error in Reading Project code:
>> > 1879048221/7000001d, and trying to add .paf files its
>> > 1879048226/70000022. All of the other file types I rescued work
fine,
>> > and I don't think these should be corrupt, as nothing was written
>>to the
>> > disk before recovery. I would love any assistance in completing
my
>> > resurrection. Thanks,
>>
>> 7000001d = peFileHeaderCorrupt = project file data is corrupted
>> 70000022 = peAudioFileCorrupted = audio file data is corrupted
>>
>> Data on the disk is not valid. Sorry.
>>
>> ------------------------
>> Edmund Pirali
>> Intelligent Devices, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Steve,
>>>
>>>When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that says:
>>>
>>>"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."
>>>
>>>The project window is left completely blank.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>dave
>>>
>>>
>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Dave-
>>>>
>>>>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>>>>Like any other error message description?
>>>>
>>>>-steve
>>>>
>Steve,

I remember meeting Nappy at the seminar in Los Angeles. That was the one
with Brian T.

Great, maybe he can do it if he hasn't gone to Pro Tools! :)

I will wait for a response. Meanwhile, if anyone else wants to give it a
shot, let me know. I will put whoever wants to do it direct contact with
the customer. I was hoping to pay for Adobe Audition 3.0 with the money from
this. Oh well! :)

Regards,
Dave



"steve the artguy" <artguy@eaglenebula.com> wrote:
>
>Dave-
>
>I haven't cranked up 3.0 in years.
>
>Nappy is in San Diego. Don't know if he's still using Paris 3.0, or if he
>still has it, but I see a post from him from April where he was looking
for
>a C16 cable, so maybe he's still using it.
>
>If not, he might well know someone in the area who does.
>
>-steve
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>Thanks for the response. I wonder what Edmund is doing these days?
>>
>>Someone had suggested that this might be a simple matter of a version mismatch.
>>I am now also tending to lean that way. I am running 2.2, and these are
>probably
>>3.0 project files. I think the audio files are fine. I was able to load
>them
>>into a new project.
>>
>>My customer needs assistance. Do you know anybody with 3.0 (preferably
MAC)
>>that can help him? I have all the files on DVD that his producer has sent.
>>These are finished projects. There are three tunes with 32 tracks each.
>What
>>he needs is each comped track recorded to a .wav file. So that is probably
>>3-4 hours of work? (96 tracks) This is a paying gig and you (or whoever
>wants
>>to help) can charge accordingly. I have already given him a quote, but
told
>>him I would try to find someone to take the project and would not charge
>>him.
>>
>>I am in the Los Angeles area, and the producer and artist live in San Diego.
>>Please contact me off-line if you can help.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for the assistance.
>>
>>Dave Richardson
>>Compact Recording Systems
>>
>>
>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Dave, I hope I'm wrong, but this may apply. It's an old post by the guy
>>who
>>>wrote Paris.
>>>
>>>on the other hand, it may not. Only Edmund would know for sure...
>>>
>>> Subject:Re: Error Code City
>>> Date:Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0400
>>> From:pirali@intdevices.com (Edmund Pirali)
>>> Newsgroups:rec.audio.ensoniqparis
>>>
>>> In article <37141A80.69AD694A@cactusville.com>, cactusfire@cactusville.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > When I try to open some recoverd (by Unerase) Paris files I get
>some
>>> > problems. On the .ppj files it's Error in Reading Project code:
>>> > 1879048221/7000001d, and trying to add .paf files its
>>> > 1879048226/70000022. All of the other file types I rescued work
>fine,
>>> > and I don't think these should be corrupt, as nothing was written
>>>to the
>>> > disk before recovery. I would love any assistance in completing
>my
>>> > resurrection. Thanks,
>>>
>>> 7000001d = peFileHeaderCorrupt = project file data is corrupted
>>> 70000022 = peAudioFileCorrupted = audio file data is corrupted
>>>
>>> Data on the disk is not valid. Sorry.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Edmund Pirali
>>> Intelligent Devices, Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>>When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that says:
>>>>
>>>>"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."
>>>>
>>>>The project window is left completely blank.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave-
>>>>>
>>>>>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>>>>>Like any other error message description?
>>>>>
>>>>>-steve
>>>>>
>>
>Hi Kim,

If you're looking for something more modern, I'm using an Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA
with no problems. The only issue might be that the ATA slots are in the
way of full length cards. If you use the SATA plugs or a Magma, I think
you'd be fine.

I'm running Windows 98 and Windows XP with PARIS, no problem.

I wish I had some advice for how to fix your existing computer.

Good luck!

Mike


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The brief overview...
>
>I've restored an image to the HDD of a working Windows Image with Ghost,
>so in theory all software possibilities are gone. This is an image I have
>restored several times already, so I'm very sure it should be fault free.
>
>I have tried each of my two EDS cards on their own. I have reseated the
daughter
>boards, cleaned off any dust or dirt from the cards, and tried both cards
>with the MEC and the 442 which each have their own SCSI cable. As a last
>attempt I switched C16's and unplugged the MEC/442 and used just an Interface
>2 which I bought from Deej a while back. Same error still.
>
>So three different interfaces, two different EDS cards, two different PCI
>slots and a new working HDD image all yield the same results.
>
>Error 7/7.
>
>It's the MB isn't it? Or Power Supply? Now that I read back what I've done,
>it has to be.
>
>How irritating.
>
>The MB has needed replacing since the dawn of man. I've had about enough
>of it. Perhaps I should get something else. It's a Gigabyte Ultra one...
> what's the model...? KX9S or something? You know the ones...
>
>Grrr... ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:24:22 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
wrote:

>Thanks. My server overloaded? What does that mean? Should I worry?
>
>S
>
It just means that more of us were trying to listen than you had
outgoing bandwidth for.

It should settle down after a while.

pabTwo questions...

1.) is there any way to tell from the .ppj file (like maybe
opening it up in Notepad?) to see if it gives any info as to
whether it's a Paris v2.xx or v3 project file? That would
eliminate or prove the theory that that's the problem.

2.) How many tracks are we talking about in each project, and
are there a lot comps/punches/edits on most of them or just a
few here & there?

Neil


"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>Steve,
>
>I remember meeting Nappy at the seminar in Los Angeles. That was the one
>with Brian T.
>
>Great, maybe he can do it if he hasn't gone to Pro Tools! :)
>
>I will wait for a response. Meanwhile, if anyone else wants to give it a
>shot, let me know. I will put whoever wants to do it direct contact with
>the customer. I was hoping to pay for Adobe Audition 3.0 with the money
from
>this. Oh well! :)
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@eaglenebula.com> wrote:
>>
>>Dave-
>>
>>I haven't cranked up 3.0 in years.
>>
>>Nappy is in San Diego. Don't know if he's still using Paris 3.0, or if
he
>>still has it, but I see a post from him from April where he was looking
>for
>>a C16 cable, so maybe he's still using it.
>>
>>If not, he might well know someone in the area who does.
>>
>>-steve
>>
>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Steve,
>>>
>>>Thanks for the response. I wonder what Edmund is doing these days?
>>>
>>>Someone had suggested that this might be a simple matter of a version
mismatch.
>>>I am now also tending to lean that way. I am running 2.2, and these are
>>probably
>>>3.0 project files. I think the audio files are fine. I was able to load
>>them
>>>into a new project.
>>>
>>>My customer needs assistance. Do you know anybody with 3.0 (preferably
>MAC)
>>>that can help him? I have all the files on DVD that his producer has sent.
>>>These are finished projects. There are three tunes with 32 tracks each.
>>What
>>>he needs is each comped track recorded to a .wav file. So that is probably
>>>3-4 hours of work? (96 tracks) This is a paying gig and you (or whoever
>>wants
>>>to help) can charge accordingly. I have already given him a quote, but
>told
>>>him I would try to find someone to take the project and would not charge
>>>him.
>>>
>>>I am in the Los Angeles area, and the producer and artist live in San
Diego.
>>>Please contact me off-line if you can help.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for the assistance.
>>>
>>>Dave Richardson
>>>Compact Recording Systems
>>>
>>>
>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Dave, I hope I'm wrong, but this may apply. It's an old post by the guy
>>>who
>>>>wrote Paris.
>>>>
>>>>on the other hand, it may not. Only Edmund would know for sure...
>>>>
>>>> Subject:Re: Error Code City
>>>> Date:Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0400
>>>> From:pirali@intdevices.com (Edmund Pirali)
>>>> Newsgroups:rec.audio.ensoniqparis
>>>>
>>>> In article <37141A80.69AD694A@cactusville.com>, cactusfire@cactusville.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > When I try to open some recoverd (by Unerase) Paris files I get
>>some
>>>> > problems. On the .ppj files it's Error in Reading Project code:
>>>> > 1879048221/7000001d, and trying to add .paf files its
>>>> > 1879048226/70000022. All of the other file types I rescued work
>>fine,
>>>> > and I don't think these should be corrupt, as nothing was written
>>>>to the
>>>> > disk before recovery. I would love any assistance in completing
>>my
>>>> > resurrection. Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> 7000001d = peFileHeaderCorrupt = project file data is corrupted
>>>> 70000022 = peAudioFileCorrupted = audio file data is corrupted
>>>>
>>>> Data on the disk is not valid. Sorry.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Edmund Pirali
>>>> Intelligent Devices, Inc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>>When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that says:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."
>>>>>
>>>>>The project window is left completely blank.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>>>>>>Like any other error message description?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-steve
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>Thanks Thad. I will probably need suggestions on an audio interface also.
>That being said, I can get whatever, so the computer doesn't have to work
>with any certian "already existing" audio interface.

http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=204565&utag=Mike,

Will that board accept an older Athlon 64 do you know?

I don't reeeaaalllyyy want to replace evvveerrryyyttthhhiiinnnggg if I don't
have to...

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi Kim,
>
>If you're looking for something more modern, I'm using an Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA
>with no problems. The only issue might be that the ATA slots are in the
>way of full length cards. If you use the SATA plugs or a Magma, I think
>you'd be fine.
>
>I'm running Windows 98 and Windows XP with PARIS, no problem.
>
>I wish I had some advice for how to fix your existing computer.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Mike
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The brief overview...
>>
>>I've restored an image to the HDD of a working Windows Image with Ghost,
>>so in theory all software possibilities are gone. This is an image I have
>>restored several times already, so I'm very sure it should be fault free.
>>
>>I have tried each of my two EDS cards on their own. I have reseated the
>daughter
>>boards, cleaned off any dust or dirt from the cards, and tried both cards
>>with the MEC and the 442 which each have their own SCSI cable. As a last
>>attempt I switched C16's and unplugged the MEC/442 and used just an Interface
>>2 which I bought from Deej a while back. Same error still.
>>
>>So three different interfaces, two different EDS cards, two different PCI
>>slots and a new working HDD image all yield the same results.
>>
>>Error 7/7.
>>
>>It's the MB isn't it? Or Power Supply? Now that I read back what I've done,
>>it has to be.
>>
>>How irritating.
>>
>>The MB has needed replacing since the dawn of man. I've had about enough
>>of it. Perhaps I should get something else. It's a Gigabyte Ultra one...
>> what's the model...? KX9S or something? You know the ones...
>>
>>Grrr... ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Will that board accept an older Athlon 64 do you know?

Mmm seems it will.

I might be on the cards. I only have two EDS cards and no real plans to have
more other than as spares, and it looks as if it would fit two cards in 4
& 5 depending on IRQ issues, which I will have to look into...

....mmm...

Cheers,
Kim.With old PCI dropping off the radar, can I pick one up cheap?

Even if only so that my EDS cards don't spend eternity bending under their
own weight...? ... but also for greater MB and IRQ flexibility... and I
could get some UAD's. ;o)

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Will that board accept an older Athlon 64 do you know?
>
>Mmm seems it will.
>
>I might be on the cards. I only have two EDS cards and no real plans to
have
>more other than as spares, and it looks as if it would fit two cards in
4
>& 5 depending on IRQ issues, which I will have to look into...
>
>...mmm...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Hi Kim,

I think the older Magmas are around $300. Be sure to get the cable and the
optional overhead fans if you decide to get one.

As for the older Athlon 64, it has to be an AM2 CPU, and the ram will have
to be DDR2 to work. I'm using an X2 3800 with DDR2-800 ram. I bought the
cpu for less that $75, and the 4 GB of the ram could be bought for $40 these
days.

Be aware that once you get above 1GB of ram, you can't get into Windows 98
safe mode anymore. If you mess it up, you just have to reinstall or restore
a ghost image. :)

Hope this helps,

Mike


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>With old PCI dropping off the radar, can I pick one up cheap?
>
>Even if only so that my EDS cards don't spend eternity bending under their
>own weight...? ... but also for greater MB and IRQ flexibility... and
I
>could get some UAD's. ;o)
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>Will that board accept an older Athlon 64 do you know?
>>
>>Mmm seems it will.
>>
>>I might be on the cards. I only have two EDS cards and no real plans to
>have
>>more other than as spares, and it looks as if it would fit two cards in
>4
>>& 5 depending on IRQ issues, which I will have to look into...
>>
>>...mmm...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>Thanks. 15/8 ;-)
Rod
"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Thanks Thad. I will probably need suggestions on an audio interface also.
>>That being said, I can get whatever, so the computer doesn't have to work
>>with any certian "already existing" audio interface.
>
> http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=204565&utag=
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks. 15/8 ;-)

Does that mean you nailed it? lol

NeilAnyone got a black 8-In module they care to part with? I have a
Groove Tubes GT-66 Tube Mic I'd be willing to swap for it
straight across.

NeilHi Neil,

I looked through one of the project files with a hex/ascii editor. I couldn't
see a version # per se. I was able to see the old directories and thought
if I changed them to the currect PC directories it would solve the problem
but to no avail. I can send one of the original ppj's to see if you can open
it if you wish.

The client states that there are 32 tracks per project. There are 3 projects
to render. Of course, I have not been able verify that there are really 32,
because I can't open the files. There are probably lots of comps and edits,
because the customer spent 1 day per tune to get it right. I can tell that
because of the dates and time of the ppjs with the latest one reading "final".

Hope this helps.

Dave



"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Two questions...
>
>1.) is there any way to tell from the .ppj file (like maybe
>opening it up in Notepad?) to see if it gives any info as to
>whether it's a Paris v2.xx or v3 project file? That would
>eliminate or prove the theory that that's the problem.
>
>2.) How many tracks are we talking about in each project, and
>are there a lot comps/punches/edits on most of them or just a
>few here & there?
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>
>>Steve,
>>
>>I remember meeting Nappy at the seminar in Los Angeles. That was the one
>>with Brian T.
>>
>>Great, maybe he can do it if he hasn't gone to Pro Tools! :)
>>
>>I will wait for a response. Meanwhile, if anyone else wants to give it
a
>>shot, let me know. I will put whoever wants to do it direct contact with
>>the customer. I was hoping to pay for Adobe Audition 3.0 with the money
>from
>>this. Oh well! :)
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@eaglenebula.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Dave-
>>>
>>>I haven't cranked up 3.0 in years.
>>>
>>>Nappy is in San Diego. Don't know if he's still using Paris 3.0, or if
>he
>>>still has it, but I see a post from him from April where he was looking
>>for
>>>a C16 cable, so maybe he's still using it.
>>>
>>>If not, he might well know someone in the area who does.
>>>
>>>-steve
>>>
>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the response. I wonder what Edmund is doing these days?
>>>>
>>>>Someone had suggested that this might be a simple matter of a version
>mismatch.
>>>>I am now also tending to lean that way. I am running 2.2, and these are
>>>probably
>>>>3.0 project files. I think the audio files are fine. I was able to load
>>>them
>>>>into a new project.
>>>>
>>>>My customer needs assistance. Do you know anybody with 3.0 (preferably
>>MAC)
>>>>that can help him? I have all the files on DVD that his producer has
sent.
>>>>These are finished projects. There are three tunes with 32 tracks each.
>>>What
>>>>he needs is each comped track recorded to a .wav file. So that is probably
>>>>3-4 hours of work? (96 tracks) This is a paying gig and you (or whoever
>>>wants
>>>>to help) can charge accordingly. I have already given him a quote, but
>>told
>>>>him I would try to find someone to take the project and would not charge
>>>>him.
>>>>
>>>>I am in the Los Angeles area, and the producer and artist live in San
>Diego.
>>>>Please contact me off-line if you can help.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance for the assistance.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Richardson
>>>>Compact Recording Systems
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave, I hope I'm wrong, but this may apply. It's an old post by the
guy
>>>>who
>>>>>wrote Paris.
>>>>>
>>>>>on the other hand, it may not. Only Edmund would know for sure...
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject:Re: Error Code City
>>>>> Date:Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0400
>>>>> From:pirali@intdevices.com (Edmund Pirali)
>>>>> Newsgroups:rec.audio.ensoniqparis
>>>>>
>>>>> In article <37141A80.69AD694A@cactusville.com>, cactusfire@cactusville.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > When I try to open some recoverd (by Unerase) Paris files I get
>>>some
>>>>> > problems. On the .ppj files it's Error in Reading Project code:
>>>>> > 1879048221/7000001d, and trying to add .paf files its
>>>>> > 1879048226/70000022. All of the other file types I rescued work
>>>fine,
>>>>> > and I don't think these should be corrupt, as nothing was written
>>>>>to the
>>>>> > disk before recovery. I would love any assistance in completing
>>>my
>>>>> > resurrection. Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> 7000001d = peFileHeaderCorrupt = project file data is corrupted
>>>>> 70000022 = peAudioFileCorrupted = audio file data is corrupted
>>>>>
>>>>> Data on the disk is not valid. Sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Edmund Pirali
>>>>> Intelligent Devices, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that
says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The project window is left completely blank.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>>>>>>>Like any other error message description?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>2 questions man....

1: How are you dealing with the x2 part of that equation, and
2: couldn't you just pull some RAM instead of laying an image?

AA


"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:4773000d@linux...
>
> Hi Kim,
>
> I think the older Magmas are around $300. Be sure to get the cable and
> the
> optional overhead fans if you decide to get one.
>
> As for the older Athlon 64, it has to be an AM2 CPU, and the ram will have
> to be DDR2 to work. I'm using an X2 3800 with DDR2-800 ram. I bought the
> cpu for less that $75, and the 4 GB of the ram could be bought for $40
> these
> days.
>
> Be aware that once you get above 1GB of ram, you can't get into Windows 98
> safe mode anymore. If you mess it up, you just have to reinstall or
> restore
> a ghost image. :)
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>With old PCI dropping off the radar, can I pick one up cheap?
>>
>>Even if only so that my EDS cards don't spend eternity bending under their
>>own weight...? ... but also for greater MB and IRQ flexibility... and
> I
>>could get some UAD's. ;o)
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Will that board accept an older Athlon 64 do you know?
>>>
>>>Mmm seems it will.
>>>
>>>I might be on the cards. I only have two EDS cards and no real plans to
>>have
>>>more other than as spares, and it looks as if it would fit two cards in
>>4
>>>& 5 depending on IRQ issues, which I will have to look into...
>>>
>>>...mmm...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>Kim,

If you decide to go the AM2 route, I've got a 4800 dual core AM2 CPU here.
brand new. I'll let it go cheap.....real cheap.

Deej

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4772fc2b$1@linux...
>
>
> With old PCI dropping off the radar, can I pick one up cheap?
>
> Even if only so that my EDS cards don't spend eternity bending under their
> own weight...? ... but also for greater MB and IRQ flexibility... and I
> could get some UAD's. ;o)
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>Will that board accept an older Athlon 64 do you know?
>>
>>Mmm seems it will.
>>
>>I might be on the cards. I only have two EDS cards and no real plans to
> have
>>more other than as spares, and it looks as if it would fit two cards in
> 4
>>& 5 depending on IRQ issues, which I will have to look into...
>>
>>...mmm...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>OK........this sounds nefarious. So what are you up to now? Are you summing
again??? Stop that and go wash your hands.

;o)

"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47731e83$1@linux...
>
> Anyone got a black 8-In module they care to part with? I have a
> Groove Tubes GT-66 Tube Mic I'd be willing to swap for it
> straight across.
>
> NeilDo you need to have an interface connected to a card for the submix to
work?

With my new setup, I may track, say, 24 tracks on the mobile rig.
When I bring that mix home, I don't have two MEC's in the studio rig
because I've never needed it. I just got a second card for the studio
rig -- since I'm only mixing down, and not using any external efx, do
I need to have a second MEC or 442 connected to the second card in
order for it to work?

Does this make sense? Sorry -- I'm on call at the hospital and just
got woken up (4:20 A-freakin'-M to unlock a user account, because our
new owners are too freakin' cheap to pay for a helpdesk operator
between 2A-freakin'-M and 6A-freakin'-M), so my brain ain't completely
wired in yet.

pabunless it's the fw800 model.



On 27 Dec 2007 06:54:34 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>FYI, OS 9 does utilize DPs, but it will not benefit Paris. A single processor
>machine is preferable for Paris. The dual 1.25 machine runs hot and it's
>loud. Either machine can boot in to OS9 or OSX.
>
>"Colin Simpson" <c_simpson@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>It's the single processor 1.25Ghz MDD, which can only boot into OS9.2.2.
>I
>>believe that the Firewire 800 models are no good for this, only the FW400
>>MoBo will boot with 9.2.2 and run PARIS successfully. Cheers, Colin S.
>>
>> "ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>Thanks pab!
>>>Wich MDD do you mine?
>>>Greets,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:39:44 -0500, rick <parnell68@hotmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>as long as either does 9.whatever it should fine. as to the dp thing
>>>>>i don't think paris utilizes the second proc. due to the software.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 26 Dec 2007 03:46:29 +1000, "ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, Merry christmas.
>>>>>>Is G4 1.2 or 1.42 best for Paris (sigle or d.p)
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Correct. A DP machine will be a waste, unless you can get one for the
>>>>same price. OS9 won't use the DP's natively, and Paris certainly
>>>>won't.
>>>>
>>>>You need to make sure the G4 will boot into OS9 natively, NOT in
>>>>Classic. If it won't boot into 9 on its own, then it's useless to
>>>>you.
>>>>
>>>>There is one MDD model that's the last one they made with 9.2 booting
>>>>ability -- that's the fastest Mac you can use.
>>>>
>>>>pab
>>>
>>no, 1 interface is fine for multiple eds cards just the cables to
connect the two cards is needed. you can use the 1 mec to control
both cards by switching between the 2.

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:29:57 -0600, Paul Braun
<cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:

>Do you need to have an interface connected to a card for the submix to
>work?
>
>With my new setup, I may track, say, 24 tracks on the mobile rig.
>When I bring that mix home, I don't have two MEC's in the studio rig
>because I've never needed it. I just got a second card for the studio
>rig -- since I'm only mixing down, and not using any external efx, do
>I need to have a second MEC or 442 connected to the second card in
>order for it to work?
>
>Does this make sense? Sorry -- I'm on call at the hospital and just
>got woken up (4:20 A-freakin'-M to unlock a user account, because our
>new owners are too freakin' cheap to pay for a helpdesk operator
>between 2A-freakin'-M and 6A-freakin'-M), so my brain ain't completely
>wired in yet.
>
>pabHi Aaron,

>1: How are you dealing with the x2 part of that equation,

I figured out how to get PARIS to work in a dual CPU machine. Hasn't crashed
once, except for when I feed it bad effect code I'm working on. :)

>2: couldn't you just pull some RAM instead of laying an image?

Yes, but that would involve getting out of my chair. :)

All the best,

Mike


>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:4773000d@linux...
>>
>> Hi Kim,
>>
>> I think the older Magmas are around $300. Be sure to get the cable and

>> the
>> optional overhead fans if you decide to get one.
>>
>> As for the older Athlon 64, it has to be an AM2 CPU, and the ram will
have
>> to be DDR2 to work. I'm using an X2 3800 with DDR2-800 ram. I bought
the
>> cpu for less that $75, and the 4 GB of the ram could be bought for $40

>> these
>> days.
>>
>> Be aware that once you get above 1GB of ram, you can't get into Windows
98
>> safe mode anymore. If you mess it up, you just have to reinstall or
>> restore
>> a ghost image. :)
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>With old PCI dropping off the radar, can I pick one up cheap?
>>>
>>>Even if only so that my EDS cards don't spend eternity bending under their
>>>own weight...? ... but also for greater MB and IRQ flexibility... and
>> I
>>>could get some UAD's. ;o)
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Will that board accept an older Athlon 64 do you know?
>>>>
>>>>Mmm seems it will.
>>>>
>>>>I might be on the cards. I only have two EDS cards and no real plans
to
>>>have
>>>>more other than as spares, and it looks as if it would fit two cards
in
>>>4
>>>>& 5 depending on IRQ issues, which I will have to look into...
>>>>
>>>>...mmm...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>
>
>Nope, no summing - just going to add a 2nd 8-in to my Paris rig
that i'm going to configure in a rackmount setup if I can find
a rackmount PC case at a reasonable price. Going to lend
it to some friends so they can use it as a scratchpad to track
some tunes they're working on... they have a small mixer with
direct channel outs, so i figured two modules would suffice.

Neil


"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>OK........this sounds nefarious. So what are you up to now? Are you summing

>again??? Stop that and go wash your hands.
>
>;o)
>
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47731e83$1@linux...
>>
>> Anyone got a black 8-In module they care to part with? I have a
>> Groove Tubes GT-66 Tube Mic I'd be willing to swap for it
>> straight across.
>>
>> Neil
>
>First, I _would_ like to see some data on this. Bob Katz isn't in the 'circle
your speaker with a green magic marker' crew, but he is prone to what I might
call esoterica. Second, this is only an issue if you actually use the laptop
for recording audio going in and out of the laptop. That is, if one is composing
and editing on it and the projects are transferred to another machine for
final playback this is a zero problem. Third, my guess is that most of the
real world has problems in their rigs that far surpass whatever 'jitter'
is in their audio interface clocks. Last, if this _is_ a serious problem
it's easily fixed by carrying an external clock and slaving the USB/FW interface
to it.

TCB

"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Thanks Thad. I will probably need suggestions on an audio interface also.
>>That being said, I can get whatever, so the computer doesn't have to work
>>with any certian "already existing" audio interface.
>
> http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article& amp;group=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&item=204565&utag=
>I wonder if someone like Chuck might know how to ID a v3 ppj
file vs a v2? Just thinking that if that's not the issue, you
could have any number of people try to open those projects on
their v3 Paris rigs & they still might not be able to.

With regard to the # of tracks that have edits/punches/comps,
do you think the basic tracks have that too? I was just
thinking that if most of the tracks are single takes, but a
handful had punches/comps, etc, you might be able to import the
audio files & reconstruct the project, with the basic tracks
being a simple one-shot import, and with most of the labor
being spent on getting the overlaps/punch points right for the
overdubbed tracks. You'd have to have the artist there for that
portion, of course, so he could tell you which portions of the
take are "the one".

Neil


"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Neil,
>
>I looked through one of the project files with a hex/ascii editor. I couldn't
>see a version # per se. I was able to see the old directories and thought
>if I changed them to the currect PC directories it would solve the problem
>but to no avail. I can send one of the original ppj's to see if you can
open
>it if you wish.
>
>The client states that there are 32 tracks per project. There are 3 projects
>to render. Of course, I have not been able verify that there are really
32,
>because I can't open the files. There are probably lots of comps and edits,
>because the customer spent 1 day per tune to get it right. I can tell that
>because of the dates and time of the ppjs with the latest one reading "final".
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Two questions...
>>
>>1.) is there any way to tell from the .ppj file (like maybe
>>opening it up in Notepad?) to see if it gives any info as to
>>whether it's a Paris v2.xx or v3 project file? That would
>>eliminate or prove the theory that that's the problem.
>>
>>2.) How many tracks are we talking about in each project, and
>>are there a lot comps/punches/edits on most of them or just a
>>few here & there?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>I remember meeting Nappy at the seminar in Los Angeles. That was the one
>>>with Brian T.
>>>
>>>Great, maybe he can do it if he hasn't gone to Pro Tools! :)
>>>
>>>I will wait for a response. Meanwhile, if anyone else wants to give it
>a
>>>shot, let me know. I will put whoever wants to do it direct contact with
>>>the customer. I was hoping to pay for Adobe Audition 3.0 with the money
>>from
>>>this. Oh well! :)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@eaglenebula.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Dave-
>>>>
>>>>I haven't cranked up 3.0 in years.
>>>>
>>>>Nappy is in San Diego. Don't know if he's still using Paris 3.0, or if
>>he
>>>>still has it, but I see a post from him from April where he was looking
>>>for
>>>>a C16 cable, so maybe he's still using it.
>>>>
>>>>If not, he might well know someone in the area who does.
>>>>
>>>>-steve
>>>>
>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for the response. I wonder what Edmund is doing these days?
>>>>>
>>>>>Someone had suggested that this might be a simple matter of a version
>>mismatch.
>>>>>I am now also tending to lean that way. I am running 2.2, and these
are
>>>>probably
>>>>>3.0 project files. I think the audio files are fine. I was able to load
>>>>them
>>>>>into a new project.
>>>>>
>>>>>My customer needs assistance. Do you know anybody with 3.0 (preferably
>>>MAC)
>>>>>that can help him? I have all the files on DVD that his producer has
>sent.
>>>>>These are finished projects. There are three tunes with 32 tracks each.
>>>>What
>>>>>he needs is each comped track recorded to a .wav file. So that is probably
>>>>>3-4 hours of work? (96 tracks) This is a paying gig and you (or whoever
>>>>wants
>>>>>to help) can charge accordingly. I have already given him a quote, but
>>>told
>>>>>him I would try to find someone to take the project and would not charge
>>>>>him.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am in the Los Angeles area, and the producer and artist live in San
>>Diego.
>>>>>Please contact me off-line if you can help.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance for the assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Richardson
>>>>>Compact Recording Systems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave, I hope I'm wrong, but this may apply. It's an old post by the
>guy
>>>>>who
>>>>>>wrote Paris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>on the other hand, it may not. Only Edmund would know for sure...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject:Re: Error Code City
>>>>>> Date:Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:30 -0400
>>>>>> From:pirali@intdevices.com (Edmund Pirali)
>>>>>> Newsgroups:rec.audio.ensoniqparis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <37141A80.69AD694A@cactusville.com>, cactusfire@cactusville.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > When I try to open some recoverd (by Unerase) Paris files I
get
>>>>some
>>>>>> > problems. On the .ppj files it's Error in Reading Project code:
>>>>>> > 1879048221/7000001d, and trying to add .paf files its
>>>>>> > 1879048226/70000022. All of the other file types I rescued work
>>>>fine,
>>>>>> > and I don't think these should be corrupt, as nothing was written
>>>>>>to the
>>>>>> > disk before recovery. I would love any assistance in completing
>>>>my
>>>>>> > resurrection. Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7000001d = peFileHeaderCorrupt = project file data is corrupted
>>>>>> 70000022 = peAudioFileCorrupted = audio file data is corrupted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Data on the disk is not valid. Sorry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Edmund Pirali
>>>>>> Intelligent Devices, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave Richardson" <daver@compactrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Steve,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When I try to open one of his files a dialog box is displayed that
>says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Error in reading project. Error code 1879048225/70000021."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The project window is left completely blank.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>does it give you any other information besides error 187...etc?
>>>>>>>>Like any other error message description?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I might be game.

Shoot me an email at gmmccurdy@hotmail.com


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>
> Anyone got a black 8-In module they care to part with? I have a
> Groove Tubes GT-66 Tube Mic I'd be willing to swap for it
> str
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aight across.
>
> NeilThat monkey is a great actor! If they ever had a UTube Oscar he should
win it.

Deej wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avOiTUcD4Y
>
> ;o)
>
>Same happy greetings to you ALL.

New ladies always take a lot of work: formatting, loading software,
setting her up the way you like - but that can be exciting.

I'm still running my old lady from, like, '82 or something. I keep
thinking maybe I should get a new one, but I never get around to it. I
mean, she still runs all the apps I use, so why bother.

Gene Lennon wrote:
> I’ve been AWOL, but it’s all been good. A mix of lots of music projects and
> a new lady have kept me busy and happy.
>
> I hope you are all safe and happy too.
>
> Merry Christmas
>
> Gene
>I have a nicely equipped G4 867MHz with PARIS 3.0 for sale, if you're interested.


"ulfiyya" <ulfiyya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, Merry christmas.
>Is G4 1.2 or 1.42 best for Paris (sigle or d.p)
>Thanks."Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>If you decide to go the AM2 route, I've got a 4800 dual core AM2 CPU here.

Mmm... well... given Mike's statements about getting the dual CPU to work...
:o)

I will let you know. It will take me a couple of days to make some kind of
decision though, as I'm a bit slow... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim."Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>I figured out how to get PARIS to work in a dual CPU machine.

And how much do I have to donate to find that out? ;o)

Actually I don't really need dual CPU's, but hey, if I'm upgrading anyhow...
:o)

Cheers,
Kim.No problem Kim. I think you can disable one of them if need be. Just let me
know.

Deej

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47741af8$1@linux...
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>If you decide to go the AM2 route, I've got a 4800 dual core AM2 CPU here.
>
> Mmm... well... given Mike's statements about getting the dual CPU to
> work...
> :o)
>
> I will let you know. It will take me a couple of days to make some kind of
> decision though, as I'm a bit slow... ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim."Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>No problem Kim. I think you can disable one of them if need be. Just let
me
>know.

No worries... will let you know... time to start looking at options...

New thread! :o)


>
>Deej
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47741af8$1@linux...
>>
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>If you decide to go the AM2 route, I've got a 4800 dual core AM2 CPU here.
>>
>> Mmm... well... given Mike's statements about getting the dual CPU to

>> work...
>> :o)
>>
>> I will let you know. It will take me a couple of days to make some kind
of
>> decision though, as I'm a bit slow... ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...

....err...

So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.

The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).

Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
else wrong with it...

Cheers,
Kim.Just make absolutely sure your eds cards aren't the problem.....


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47742c6c$1@linux...
>
>
> I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>
> ...err...
>
> So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the
> Gigabyte
> K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before
> deteriorating
> into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and
> computerness.
>
> The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
> and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>
> Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
> much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has
> something
> else wrong with it...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim."Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Just make absolutely sure your eds cards aren't the problem.....

They may well be... but I don't trust the MB anyhow. For starters it has
dual BIOS for virus protection, and won't boot from the primary BIOS. Hasn't
for ages. So it has at least one known issue.

I figure that money spent on a new MB won't be wasted anyhow. Given both
EDS cards are doing the same thing, it also seems highly possible that if
they are damaged, it was done by the MB, so I'd like to replace that before
going further.

No point buying another EDS and then ruining that as well. There are only
so many left...

Cheers,
Kim.Sent you an e.

Neil

"Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I might be game.
>
> Shoot me an email at gmmccurdy@hotmail.com
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47731e83$1@linux...
>>
>> Anyone got a black 8-In module they care to part with? I have a
>> Groove Tubes GT-66 Tube Mic I'd be willing to swap for it
>> straight across.
>>
>> Neil
>
>OK I'm updating the NG front page. Yes really. No, really. Yes, really.

It's quiet at work so I'll have plenty of time. Indeed I may even put the
Paris Graphic thing I did on the front page, but meanwhile...

Existing links, many of which are dead, are here:
http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/

www.ensoniq.ca is going to the top of the list...
www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html will go up also

There are a few new pages up now which I don't have IIRC. Anybody with link
suggestions...

....speak now, because it could actually be years before I do this again.
;o)

Also, I'm open to suggestions about placing other non-paris but audio related
links on the page. Perhaps in a different section, but especially if it happens
to be something that Paris users commonly use...? ...which would kinda be
following in the current theme of the group.

Cheers,
Kim.On 28/12/07 9:36 AM, in article 47741af8$1@linux, "Kim"
<hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>> If you decide to go the AM2 route, I've got a 4800 dual core AM2 CPU here.
>
> Mmm... well... given Mike's statements about getting the dual CPU to work...
> :o)
>
> I will let you know. It will take me a couple of days to make some kind of
> decision though, as I'm a bit slow... ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
Hey Kim.
You know about www.msy.com.au don't you??

Martin HarringtonMartin Harrington <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Hey Kim.
>You know about www.msy.com.au don't you??

Yep. www.cpl.net.au is my other one, though they are not as good as they
once were, they seem to have a better range often enough.

But yes, for value and no mucking about MSY is the ticket. Thanks for the
heads up though.

And www.shoptbot.com.au and www.staticice.com.au are the other fallbacks
which can be amazingly handy. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.Hi Kim,

I'll put together a word document. It's a bit involved, but it works. I've
got mine set up so PARIS runs on CPU 1 and Cakewalk runs on CPU 0. Pretty
sweet. :)


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>I figured out how to get PARIS to work in a dual CPU machine.
>
>And how much do I have to donate to find that out? ;o)
>
>Actually I don't really need dual CPU's, but hey, if I'm upgrading anyhow...
> :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Hi Kim.
I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks back,
just before a session.
No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte x2
boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
I'd like to see what you eventually use.
Happy new year,
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>
>...err...
>
>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>
>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>
>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>else wrong with it...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Makes me nervous too. I'm running two of these mobos, two similar ones died
last year and I've got one good backup. They are phenomenal performers with
UAD-1 cards and RME cards and I'm running Opteron 185's in mine, but I'm
hoping what I've got will last me until the x-scaling issues are sorted out
with the dual socket/quad core mobos and Steinberg software.

I've always got my eye peeled for another one of these boards, just in case.


"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:47745ba2$1@linux...
>
> Hi Kim.
> I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
> Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks
> back,
> just before a session.
> No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
> which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
> I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte x2
> boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
> Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
> I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
> successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
> for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
> I'd like to see what you eventually use.
> Happy new year,
> Kim
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>
>>...err...
>>
>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the
>>Gigabyte
>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before
>>deteriorating
>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and
>>computerness.
>>
>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>
>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has
>> something
>>else wrong with it...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>Yep. Assuming I go ahead (about 80-90% at this stage) the old board is yours.
It's still booting and the rest. I'd be cautious about putting PCI cards
in it until I have checked that the EDS's still work, but we'll negotiate
that as I move forward testing.

I'll ship it to you with all the other stuff I have of yours... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Kim.
>I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
>Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks
back,
>just before a session.
>No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
>which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
>I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte x2
>boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
>Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
>I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
>successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
>for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
>I'd like to see what you eventually use.
>Happy new year,
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>
>>...err...
>>
>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>
>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>
>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>else wrong with it...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>I have taken mine back twice. Once it was replaced, the other time it was
"worked on".

The first one I got was really good for about 3-4 weeks. After that there
have been little tiny issues constantly. Nothing big enough to make me rip
it out, but every week or so I get some issue and go "I'm sure this MB is
no good..."

Cheers,
Kim.

"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>Makes me nervous too. I'm running two of these mobos, two similar ones died

>last year and I've got one good backup. They are phenomenal performers with

>UAD-1 cards and RME cards and I'm running Opteron 185's in mine, but I'm

>hoping what I've got will last me until the x-scaling issues are sorted
out
>with the dual socket/quad core mobos and Steinberg software.
>
>I've always got my eye peeled for another one of these boards, just in case.
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:47745ba2$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Kim.
>> I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
>> Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks

>> back,
>> just before a session.
>> No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
>> which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
>> I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte
x2
>> boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
>> Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
>> I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
>> successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
>> for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
>> I'd like to see what you eventually use.
>> Happy new year,
>> Kim
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>>
>>>...err...
>>>
>>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the
>>>Gigabyte
>>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before
>>>deteriorating
>>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and
>>>computerness.
>>>
>>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has
>>> something
>>>else wrong with it...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>
>Hey thanks, Kim
Hold off shipping, as I may well be in Melb in a couple of weeks or so.
If I have success with the board, I'm happy to pay you for it, as
I cannot find any retailer in OZ that still carry these.
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yep. Assuming I go ahead (about 80-90% at this stage) the old board is yours.
>It's still booting and the rest. I'd be cautious about putting PCI cards
>in it until I have checked that the EDS's still work, but we'll negotiate
>that as I move forward testing.
>
>I'll ship it to you with all the other stuff I have of yours... ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kim.
>>I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
>>Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks
>back,
>>just before a session.
>>No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
>>which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
>>I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte
x2
>>boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
>>Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
>>I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
>>successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
>>for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
>>I'd like to see what you eventually use.
>>Happy new year,
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>>
>>>...err...
>>>
>>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>>
>>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>>else wrong with it...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>I'm happy to pay you for it...

I'd rather you just take it if that's cool. Aside from the fact that you
already gave me a bunch of free stuff, I don't think it's right to charge
you for something which I believe to be faulty. It's still useful for certain
testing I imagine, but I wouldn't use it as your prime machine, and wouldn't
make reliability judgements based on it. More just a compatibility and setup
device.

In any case... you gave me free "obsolete" stuff, and I'm happy to do the
same for you. No stress.

Cheers,
Kim.Hi Kim and others, I feel your KNS8 pain (2) deceased..However, like my late
dad always told me: "Buy Cheap, Buy again".. So, for now on, I only buy server
graded Motherboards ..

This is the board I'm using in all of my rack-mounted DAWS
http://www.digiconcepts.com/tyan_motherboards_77.htm

This board is very PAris Friendly and is current at the same time..

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>
>...err...
>
>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>
>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>
>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>else wrong with it...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.LaMont,

Ya know, I'd almost go there.

What are the plugs behind the PCI slot which the EDS cards are potentially
going to interfere with? Looks suspiciously like the IDE plugs (I'm sure
it is) and something else. Do EDS cards fit without interrupting these or
do I need full SATA gear?

I already have two 250Gig SATA drives anyhow...

What Paris systems have you run with this board?

Given I really do see this as "the final" paris box, I would like it to just
be rock solid for 20 years, so the extra $70 to buy this one isn't really
relevant if it doubles the chance of a long trouble free lifespan.

Cheers,
Kim.


"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Kim and others, I feel your KNS8 pain (2) deceased..However, like my
late
>dad always told me: "Buy Cheap, Buy again".. So, for now on, I only buy
server
>graded Motherboards ..
>
>This is the board I'm using in all of my rack-mounted DAWS
>http://www.digiconcepts.com/tyan_motherboards_77.htm
>
>This board is very PAris Friendly and is current at the same time..
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>
>>...err...
>>
>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>
>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>
>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>else wrong with it...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>Good questions: (2) Eide slots...4(sata 3.0) slots, even buit-in firewire
which is nice.

However, continue to follow the PCI rules that we've always followed with
EDS cards. All Slots will work if you have 4 cards, but you should disable
a few of the usb2 ports..

Plenty of room for the EDS cards and it does interfere with the IDE ribbon
cable(s)..

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>LaMont,
>
>Ya know, I'd almost go there.
>
>What are the plugs behind the PCI slot which the EDS cards are potentially
>going to interfere with? Looks suspiciously like the IDE plugs (I'm sure
>it is) and something else. Do EDS cards fit without interrupting these or
>do I need full SATA gear?
>
>I already have two 250Gig SATA drives anyhow...
>
>What Paris systems have you run with this board?
>
>Given I really do see this as "the final" paris box, I would like it to
just
>be rock solid for 20 years, so the extra $70 to buy this one isn't really
>relevant if it doubles the chance of a long trouble free lifespan.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kim and others, I feel your KNS8 pain (2) deceased..However, like my
>late
>>dad always told me: "Buy Cheap, Buy again".. So, for now on, I only buy
>server
>>graded Motherboards ..
>>
>>This is the board I'm using in all of my rack-mounted DAWS
>>http://www.digiconcepts.com/tyan_motherboards_77.htm
>>
>>This board is very PAris Friendly and is current at the same time..
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>>
>>>...err...
>>>
>>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>>
>>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>>else wrong with it...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>First, I _would_ like to see some data on this. Bob Katz isn't in the 'circle
>your speaker with a green magic marker' crew, but he is prone to what I
might
>call esoterica.

I disagree - to me he seems like a practical guy with a
penchant for high quality... I can relate to that.
Go to his website (http://www.digido.com ) and look at his
mastering room... looks like a living room listening suite with
minimal acoustic treatment... hardly what i'd call esoteric.

>Second, this is only an issue if you actually use the laptop
>for recording audio going in and out of the laptop. That is, if one is composing
>and editing on it and the projects are transferred to another machine for
>final playback this is a zero problem.

True, but in that scenario you don't need a soundcard at all.
Well, just a cursory one to listen back on.


> Third, my guess is that most of the
>real world has problems in their rigs that far surpass whatever 'jitter'
>is in their audio interface clocks.

Could be, but the thread is about laptops & soundcards for said
devices, not other issues not related to that topic. I posted
a reference to the question at hand.

> Last, if this _is_ a serious problem
>it's easily fixed by carrying an external clock and slaving the USB/FW interface
>to it.

Which is what Bob said in his response.

E-mail him for the data you're interested in seeing...
i wouldn't be surprised if he sends you what he has or could
cite something for you to refer to.

NeilOk, upon further review, here are my likes and dislikes.

-I love the snares.
-The bass drums are too raw for me.(lots of work to mix).
-I love the hats
-Love the Cymbals
-the few beat box samples are dead on.

-The new interface is very nice..With on-board fx, lets you get your sound
within it's mixer interface..

I'll be adding this (BFD2) to the Drum PC.. Take a look at what Toontrack
will be adding @Namm.. NICE!!! http://www.toontrack.com/s20.aspMy wife and I just watched the Michael Moore movie "Sicko" and I have some
questions about the Canadian health care system. Please email me...

Thanks!

Gantthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ

This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost from
last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "

Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really look
like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?

I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to do,
things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
Thoughts?

SIs it possible she misspoke? There's only about a half-million
Bin Laden's in that family

Neil


"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
>
>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
from
>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>
>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't

>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
look
>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>
>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
do,
>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>Thoughts?
>
>S
>
>Well, that is the question, I guess. But it's still pretty bizarre that he
didn't question it. Or if he did question it, why would that be edited out?

I hope she misspoke, because it would be pretty creepy think bin Laden's
been dead for some time and nobody told us.

Not that anything would surprise me much anymore.

S


"Neil" <OIOI@OI.OIUcom> wrote in message news:47749653$1@linux...
>
> Is it possible she misspoke? There's only about a half-million
> Bin Laden's in that family
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
>>
>>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
> from
>>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>>
>>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
>
>>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
> look
>>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>>
>>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
> do,
>>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>>Thoughts?
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>Somewhere in the far reaches of my tattered mind I think I remember a quip
about this name deal... usama is not osama.... different dudes.

AA

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:47749298@linux...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
>
> This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
> from last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
> murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>
> Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't
> Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
> murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
> look like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>
> I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
> do, things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
> Thoughts?
>
> S
>Hey Neil,

I'm not saying Katz is wrong, and I'm not saying he's crazy. I was only trying
to point out that saying there are problems with 'jitter' in the clock on
USB/FW interfaces is, to me, a little shaky. For example, how many USB/FW
devices did this person test to make the assertion? How many different laptops
were used? What processors, chipsets, operating systems, and drivers were
chosen? What power schemes (a huge deal with laptops) were used? Last, and
most importantly, has anyone else duplicated the results?

I know I'm not like a lot of other people about this kind of stuff. People
who really care about sound (and as much as I dig lo-fi stuff I moved mountains
to get a Chinese knockoff iPod that plays .flac files so I have lossless
portable sound) sometimes lose track of the bigger picture, I think. In the
audiophile world this results in $500 power cables and truly bizarre attempts
to reduce 'vibration' in DVD players that buffer their data in RAM. In pro
audio it's the summing bus, clock jitter, burning CDs at a certain speed,
and so on.

One funny anecdote. I've been playing with my DJ rig all week and slacking
off at work. I have two newly refurbed 1200s with brand new cartridges, a
top quality preamp built into the Traktor Scratch interface, very good cables
everywhere, $40 isolation feet to reduce that dreaded vibration, and pretty
clean power. Though it all tracks wonderfully to the ear, taking a careful
look at the timecode using an audio app reveals all kinds of problems. A
car goes by the house and the timecode gets a little sloppy. Tap your foot
lightly and the same thing happens. None of this is immediately audible,
but looking at the 1s and 0s shows it clear as day. Then I put on some of
my favorite old vinyl and, yes, it sounds amazing. So I wonder, is it the
inaccuracy of analog gear that makes it sound good?

These things I wonder about when I'm not behind my desk at work 14 hours
per day.

TCB

"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>First, I _would_ like to see some data on this. Bob Katz isn't in the 'circle
>>your speaker with a green magic marker' crew, but he is prone to what I
>might
>>call esoterica.
>
>I disagree - to me he seems like a practical guy with a
>penchant for high quality... I can relate to that.
>Go to his website (http://www.digido.com ) and look at his
>mastering room... looks like a living room listening suite with
>minimal acoustic treatment... hardly what i'd call esoteric.
>
>>Second, this is only an issue if you actually use the laptop
>>for recording audio going in and out of the laptop. That is, if one is
composing
>>and editing on it and the projects are transferred to another machine for
>>final playback this is a zero problem.
>
>True, but in that scenario you don't need a soundcard at all.
>Well, just a cursory one to listen back on.
>
>
>> Third, my guess is that most of the
>>real world has problems in their rigs that far surpass whatever 'jitter'
>>is in their audio interface clocks.
>
>Could be, but the thread is about laptops & soundcards for said
>devices, not other issues not related to that topic. I posted
>a reference to the question at hand.
>
>> Last, if this _is_ a serious problem
>>it's easily fixed by carrying an external clock and slaving the USB/FW
interface
>>to it.
>
>Which is what Bob said in his response.
>
>E-mail him for the data you're interested in seeing...
>i wouldn't be surprised if he sends you what he has or could
>cite something for you to refer to.
>
>Neil
>There is a pretty strong consensus that bin Laden is still alive. He has released
audio tapes that discuss very recent events. Yes, they could be fakes, and
there are certainly reasons why people in power would prefer bin Laden to
remain alive even if he isn't, but people I trust think they are genuine.
That's enough for me since this is a case where I have to rely on expert
opinion.

One great mystery to me is why the US press is so reverent about Bhutto.
My personal guess is that it's because she was what so many US newspeople
wish they were; pretty, eloquent, rich, on TV, and educated at Harvard. Bhutto
and her family were, even by third world potentate standards, shamelessly
avaricious and corrupt.

I hope Pakistan can weather this storm. It has been grossly underserved by
its leadership.

TCB

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
>
>This woman (Bhutto) is dead now, but in this interview with David Frost
from
>last month, at about 6:10, she says, " . . . Omar Sheik, the man who
>murdered Usama bin Laden . . . "
>
>Huh? Bin Laden was murdered? If so, isn't this NEWS? Why on earth didn't

>Sir Frost say, "Whoa, hang on a minute . . . you just said Omar Sheik
>murdered Usama bin Laden?" If Bhutto misspoke, which it doesn't really
look
>like she did, isn't this something that should've been clarified?
>
>I've been trying to ignore politics, but maybe that's the wrong thing to
do,
>things being the way they are in the world right now. I don't know.
>Thoughts?
>
>S
>
> http://www.nypost.com/seven/12282007/business/slice_for_appl e_70507.htm

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20071228/D8TQIDF00.htmlHmmm.. I didn't get it yet and I checked my "Junk" folder. Try again and
also send it to gmmccurdy@gmail.com


"Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4773ceb9@linux...
>I might be game.
>
> Shoot me an email at gmmccurdy@hotmail.com
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47731e83$1@linux...
>>
>> Anyone got a black 8-In module they care to part with? I have a
>> Groove Tubes GT-66 Tube Mic I'd be willing to swap for it
>> straight across.
>>
>> Neil
>
>I appreciate this from both a political and artistic viewpoint.


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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92426 is a reply to message #92424] Mon, 05 November 2007 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92427 is a reply to message #92426] Mon, 05 November 2007 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92428 is a reply to message #92427] Mon, 05 November 2007 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92430 is a reply to message #92428] Mon, 05 November 2007 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92431 is a reply to message #92430] Mon, 05 November 2007 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Re: Crackles are back...not on SPDIF though [message #92434 is a reply to message #92431] Mon, 05 November 2007 23:05 Go to previous message
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