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Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84093 is a reply to message #84085] Mon, 07 May 2007 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RC,
>>>>> this was Fernadez classical mic'ed with a U87 & a 451 as I
>>>>> described earlier. It's a hi-rez mp3 file, and if you have good
>>>>> monitors you should even be able to hear some click track
>>>>> headphone leakage (thanks to those crap AKG baffled cans we
>>>>> were using).
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>
>>
>


You need to be using ASIO direct monitoring. Even at 1.5ms latency you will
hear some phasing because you are not only getting 1.5ms latency due to the
uffers, you are also getting around 1.5ms with your AD/DA conversion. As to
hearing this on previously recorded material, I don't know,but it sounds
like you've got some kind of loop with
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84094 is a reply to message #84093] Mon, 07 May 2007 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the recorded tracks being monitored
in the record enabled track. Ain't native fun?

Go to your control panel for you audio hardware and make sure ASIO direct
monitoring is enabled. then, in cubase, go to Device Setup and .set your
system for ASIO direct monitoring.

Deej

"brandon" <

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Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84102 is a reply to message #84094] Mon, 07 May 2007 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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read
>> ..
>>>>>> NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
by
>>
>>>>>> Putin.
>>>>>> The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>> in
>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>> to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the

>>>>>> Americas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
for
>>
>>>>>> him.
>>>>>> It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
has
>>
>>>>>> Iranian
>>>>>> built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>
>>>>>> Guess
>>>>>> Who?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
due
>> to
>>>>>> the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recen
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84103 is a reply to message #84085] Mon, 07 May 2007 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t publicity
of
>>
>>>>>> ownership
>>>>>> by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
used
>>>>>> against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>
>>>>>> wars
>>>>>> here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
free
>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
of
>>
>>>>>> revenue
>>>>> >from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> should be aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
TO
>>
>>>>>> U.S.
>>>>>> CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
CHANGE<
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84104 is a reply to message #84085] Mon, 07 May 2007 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> >>>>>> THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>> DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
100%
>>
>>>>>> OWNED
>>>>>> BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
PASSED
>>>>>> ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
OF
>>
>>>>>> AMERICA.
>>>>&
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84107 is a reply to message #84085] Mon, 07 May 2007 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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e and their
best interests as a whole.

Since I'm on the subject. A 5 year old could have told you that the math
doesn't work in Iraq. You can't have 150 thousand troops take on a country
with over 35 million people, in a country the size of California, with over
3,000 miles of porous boarders, with hostel enemies surrounding you. Only
40 thousand are combat troops, the rest are support. Insurgents pouring
a cross the borders everyday. You can't possibly win, you can't sweep a
country that size with those few troops. It's been a recipe for failure
from the start and I hold Bush fully responsible for that. The only people
to win are the Halliburtons of the war and their friends. For our government
to pay them 100 million dollars for stuff they couldn't account for is unforgivable.


We can't fight a war with our hands tied behind our backs. We can't fight
a war with out the proper equipment, or the necessary funds.

I also hold Clinton responsible for shutting down our military and closing
bases. We no longer have the troop levels to fight wars and protect us.
That is NOT a good thing! H
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84113 is a reply to message #84104] Mon, 07 May 2007 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.com" target="_blank">sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>What's his last name? :)
>>>>
>>>>No, but seriously . . . I don't care what you think of Bill Maher (no,
>>>>really I don't), I think he's great. More importantly, I wanted to say
>>> that
>>>>if you didn't see his friday show with PJ O'Rourke and Ben Affleck, you
>>>
>>>>should scour your HBO schedule for the repeats just to catch special
guest
>>>
>>>>Ron Paul. It's so inspiring to hear a politician who has the guts and
>>>>self-re
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84117 is a reply to message #84102] Mon, 07 May 2007 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ink even he was a bit shocked
by
>>> the
>>>>amount of howling applause Ron Paul got from this notoriously liberal
>>>>audience.
>>>>
>>>>There's something seriously wrong when a guy like this has little chance
>>> of
>>>>making it to the final contest because he can't compete financially.

>This
>>>
>>>>must change. Hey, how 'bout a grassroots underground movement to write
>>> him
>>>>in, with Mike Gravel for vice. (Gravel was the straight talking spoiler
>>> at
>>>>the Democratic debates, for those who missed that).
>>>>
>>>>Oh, if only we could stop voting for smiles, poses, and empty promises.
>>>>
>>>>S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>So unless you are wealthy you are not allowed by our government to invest
to get wealthy. In other words getting rich is only allowed for the rich.
The rich get richer and the rest of us don't qualify. And they say this
is a free country.

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Reply to my inquiry about investing in the company:
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>Thank you for contacting Hydrogen Technology Applications, Inc. (HTA). You

>mentioned that you have potential investment interest. As we are a private

>company, there are many state and federal laws with which we must comply.

>Additionally, we are a growing compan
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84127 is a reply to message #84085] Mon, 07 May 2007 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sue. Every
time I would delect Direct Monitoring in the Decvice Setup Cubase would crash.
Why?
It used to function fine.

???
thx
b






"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>You need to be using ASIO direct monitoring. Even at 1.5ms latency you will
>hear some phasing because you are not only getting 1.5ms latency due to
the
>uffers, you are also getting around 1.5ms with your AD/DA conversion. As
to
>hearing this on previously recorded material, I don't know,but it sounds
>like you've got some kind of loop with the recorded tracks being monitored
>in the record enabled track. Ain't native fun?
>
>Go to your control panel for you audio hardware and make sure ASIO direct
>monitoring is enabled. then, in cubase, go to Device Setup and .set your
>system for ASIO direct monitoring.
>
>Deej
>
>"brandon&q
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84129 is a reply to message #84117] Mon, 07 May 2007 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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gs
me
>> to another part of the quest...
>> Initially I was running the mic thru the Presonus--ADAT out---Motu I

>> thought
>> maybe the Presonus is doing this....so I plugged directly to the Motu
and
>> same thing.
>> I tried using the Motu as the master clock and the presonus as the master
>> clock.
>> No change.
>> I twiddled with every setting I could find in Cubase that looked related
>> and no change.
>> I tried different microphones.
>> No change.
>> It sounds like there are two identical signals being sent to the main

>> outs/headphones.
>> I thought hmmm maybe the Direct monitoring was some how enabled... But
it
>> was disabled and I opened Cue Mix and disabled the main outs just in case
>> and closed it again.
>> No change.
>> I am sarting to think the Motu is defective.
>> I tried opening a new project and adding an audio track so I was sure

>> there
>> was no processing...No Change.
>> It is very noticable on the headphones.
>> Not as noticable during playback, but I swear I can hear artifacts of
it
>> on recorded vocal material.
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue what this might be?
>>
>> B
>>
>
>DJ,
When I go to my MOTU device setup... I dont recall seeing anything about
direct monitoring, but there must be....
hmm...I will have to look around.. I might even have to get on the manual.

b




"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>guys,
>I forgot to mention that I had checked the ASIO driver.
>I am using the Motu ASIO driver.
>
>I swear that I can hear the phasing on recorded materials that I heard phasing
>on in the headphones while monitoring. Not just any old recorded track.
It
>might be my mind thinking it hears it because I am afraid that I am gonna
>hear it...know what I mean...Hmmm... If that is the case I am gonna try
thinking
>I hear an 1176..matby one will appear in my studio..(((making my Hiro Nokamora
>face >~( )))
>
>
>I used to have Direct Monitoring enabled...but if you recall one
>of my last problems was.... not being able to use VST plugs on live material
>or hear them in realtime on a track I was recording.
>The problem was Direct Monitoring. So that is why I disabled it.
>Which brings us to another problem...
>
>I tried enabling Direct Monioting just to test if that was the issue. Every
>time I would delect Direct Monitoring in the Decvice Setup Cubase would
crash.
>Why?
>It used to function fine.
>
>???
>thx
>b
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84130 is a reply to message #84129] Mon, 07 May 2007 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;>You need to be using ASIO direct monitoring. Even at 1.5ms latency you
will
>>hear some phasing because you are not only getting 1.5ms latency due to
>the
>>uffers, you are also getting around 1.5ms with your AD/DA conversion. As
>to
>>hearing this on previously recorded material, I don't know,but it sounds
>>like you've got some kind of loop with the recorded tracks being monitored
>>in the record enabled track. Ain't native fun?
>>
>>Go to your control panel for you audio hardware and make sure ASIO direct
>>monitoring is enabled. then, in cubase, go to Device Setup and .set your
>>system for ASIO direct monitoring.
>>
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84141 is a reply to message #84130] Mon, 07 May 2007 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84143 is a reply to message #84127] Mon, 07 May 2007 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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s me about it, every time I hear/see/read it
from
>people I love/hate/mildly dislike is that it boils down to the MOST ANTI
>AMERICAN expression possible.
>
>Chuck
>
>Yep, it's all the USA's fault. People are really happy down there, they just
love there new oppression. Lack of freedom is a real good thing! Freedom,
choice, democracy who needs it!!! It's all over rated. Bring on the communism
and tell the people that they own the country. Nothing like communist twisting
the truth!

"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>James.. Who and what country starts riots and protest???? Hint CIA.. Called
>ounter measures. Used when they dealing with a country that does not play
>ball with them..

Yep
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here you go LaMont!
>>
>>Venezuelans Protest As TV Station Shuts
>>
>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070529/D8PDOG1G0.html
>>
>&
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84144 is a reply to message #84141] Tue, 08 May 2007 00:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo gas/water
>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>
>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
after
>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I had
>>>bad
>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>water,
>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>the
>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>
>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not responsible
>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
their
>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>about
>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them a
>choice,
>>>>pay for the damage
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s or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station owner
>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>
>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas statio
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84149 is a reply to message #84085] Tue, 08 May 2007 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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important move that
>>everyone
>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>TO
>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>OF
>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Chuck,

I agree actually. But I wonder where the line is? Isn't there a line<
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84156 is a reply to message #84149] Tue, 08 May 2007 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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e USA will not just stand by and watch
south
>>>america fall to communism.
>>>
>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or are
>>you
>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
gas/water
>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>
>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>after
>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I
had
>>>>bad
>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>>water,
>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>>the
>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in dam
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$480 off ebay, so...
>
> But if you must know, I loaded a little jazz demo off the one of the disks
> this morning while having a play and I think that yes, it might be. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.LaMont wrote:
> You got it..
> Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they prefer
> free health care and social security???
>

Some people may not pay for it, but it definitely wouldn't be free.

Jeff
>Yeah, like pissing on a crucifix and calling it freedom of speech. But when
it comes to a nativity seen or the ten commandments the greasy schmucks in
the ACLU are ready to sue. Where is the freedom of speech then?

Yes it's anti American to say communism is Ok! And it disrespects those
who fought and died for your freedoms.

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does being
>>an american mean anything?
>>
>>DC
>
>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>that this country was founded on.
>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>Gene
>Yep..We do . with our tax dollars..

Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>LaMont wrote:
>> You got it..
>> Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they
prefer
>> free health care and social security???
>>
>
>Some people may not pay for it, but it definitely wouldn't be free.
>
>Jeff
>>Please.. I'm not a communist, but this is the land of free. Free to workship
any religion you see fit. Free to believe want you want. Free to say what
you want.

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, like pissing on a crucifix and calling it freedom of speech. But
when
>it comes to a nativity seen or the ten commandments the greasy schmucks
in
>the ACLU are ready to sue. Where is the freedom of speech then?
>
>Yes it's anti American to say communism is Ok! And it disrespects those
>who fought and died for your freedoms.
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does being
>>>an american mean anything?
>>>
>>>DC
>>
>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>>that this country was founded on.
>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>Gene
>>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:

>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>that this country was founded on.
>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>Gene


I'm with you... But where is the line? Can you say that I hope we lose

a war? Can you say the president should be killed? Can you yell "fire"
in a crowded theater? Can you incite to riot? Can you publish information
that is likely to cause the death of US military personnel?

It is so damn easy to be for "free speech" and so damn hard to admit
that nothing is free...


DCNo their hate did not do them in.. The CIA did them in.

"James McCloskey" <

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ank">excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Black Panthers a peaceful group??? They even killed some of there own!
> My dad had friends that were cops back then that told my dad they had cells
>all around St. Louis and Detroit. They were organizing and planning to
take
>over the cities by force when they raided them, thanks to the help of black
>cops!
>
>May be there concept of doing something about oppression was a good one
at
>the time, but they were a violent group that was calling for armed resistance
>from the get go. Had they been peaceful and not a militant group that killed
>people, maybe they could have done some good. Their hate did them in!
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>They were a peaceful organization.. Stop drinking the USA Kool-Aid and
think
>>for your self.
>>
>>They(Black Panth
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s a very important move that
>>>>
>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>>TO
>>>>
>>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES
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>>humanitarian disaster as the victorious north took revenge
>>on those who had opposed them in the south. There were
>>thousands of "boat people" doing anything they could to
>>escape torture and death and many died. Millions died in
>>Cambodia as the new dictators pursued ideological purity.
>>
>>So, Joan Baez spoke out against the persecution of these
>>"boat people" by the new communist leaders. She called
>>fo peace and forgiveness in the new Vietnam.
>>
>>Guess what? She was blasted by Jane Fonda. When asked why,
>>Jane responded that it was unacceptable to criticize a
>>communist government! We on the left just don't DO that,
>>don't you see?
>>
>>My point is that you have to be either Jane or Joan. You do
>>NOT have to be a conservative to tell the truth about Chavez,
>>and telling the truth about Chavez does not mean you have to
>>like Bush.
>>
>>It simply means you have to be honest.
>>
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>So is Bush...
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com
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theater? Can you incite to riot? Can you publish information
>that is likely to cause the death of US military personnel?
>
>It is so damn easy to be for "free speech" and so damn hard to admit
>that nothing is free...
>
>
>DCamen. and while i may not agree with all of thier causes, i for one
am happy with than the aclu continues to exist on our behalf.



On 30 May 2007 16:35:18 +1000, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:

>
>Common sense give the answer to this often asked question. If in doubt, ask
>yourself how would the framers of our constitution come down on these issues,
>my guess:
>Can you say the president should be killed? – Probably not, and any direct
>threats against the president are illegal, but our country was born out of
>a revolution against the current rulers. The men that wrote the constitution
>did believe in keeping a close eye on our government and calling them on
>it whenever they got a little too powerful.
>
>Can you yell "fire"in a crowded theater? – No
>
>Can you point out when our leaders are ridiculously incompetent and possibly
>breaking the law? – Yes
>Can you say out loud that you believe another form of government is just
>as good or better then ours – ABSOLUTLY?
>
>Jefferson would be LOL.
>
>
> Literally from Common Sense (Thomas Paine – published 1776)
>
>“The prejudice of Englishmen, in favour of their own government, by King,
>Lords and Commons, arises as much or more from national pride than reason.
>Individuals are undoubtedly safer in England than in some other countries:
>but the will of the king is as much the law of the land in Britain as in
>France, with this difference, that instead of proceeding directly from his
>mouth, it is handed to the people under the formidable shape of an act of
>parliament. For the fate of Charles the First hath only made kings more subtle
>— not more just.
>Wherefore, laying aside all national pride and prejudice in favour of modes
>and forms, the plain truth is that IT IS WHOLLY OWING TO THE CONSTITUTION
>OF THE PEOPLE, AND NOT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE GOVERNMENT that the crown
>is not as oppressive in England as in Turkey.”
>
>
>Gene
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>>>that this country was founded on.
>>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>>Gene
>>
>>
>>I'm with you... But where is the line? Can you say that I hope we lose
>>
>>a war? Can you say the president should be killed? Can you yell "fire"
>>in a crowded theater? Can you incite to riot? Can you publish information
>>that is likely to cause the death of US military personnel?
>>
>>It is so damn easy to be for "free speech" and so damn hard to admit
>>that nothing is free...
>>
>>
>>DCSorry I couldn't get past the ad.No lobbiest reform...that's what I expect.Spot on, Dedric! Thank you v/ much.

Dedric Terry wrote:
> Bill - not sure about 1). Without looking at C4 I can't say if there's a
> browser trick that might be alluding you, but if it's a case of the folders
> appearing to be empty, you could try removing the prefs (I think they are
> still under the user application data folder for Cubase - they were just xml
> files in previous versions - moving them and restarting Cubase would often
> clear up any corruptions and get you back up and running easily - even after
> putting some of the prefs, such as workspaces/layouts, key commands, etc
> back).
>
> With 2), just go to the left (I think) of the VSTi insert in the rack and
> there is a small icon with a dropdown menu to select which outputs you want
> to activate. The default is a single stereo out, but you can now
> enable/disable only the outs you want on any VSTi rather than littering the
> mixer with every available out.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 5/29/07 7:23 PM, in article 465cd378@linux, "Bill L"
> <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>> I posted this at the Steiny forum, but no replies yet. Hoping one of you
>> guys who has been on C4 for a while can suss out what I may have done
>> wrong. I just got C4 and it is throwing me for a loop this time. I could
>> not find a thing in the manual on these.
>>
>> Somehow overnight I have 2 new problems.
>>
>> 1) I seem to have lost all my C4 synth settings. Before, they would
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another country. If they want to
be
>>>comunist
>>>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
>>>their
>>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
>>>not
>>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
>>>that's
>>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's
>>to
>>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people
will
>>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and watch
>>south
>>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>>
>>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or
are
>>>>you
>>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
>>gas/water
>>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>>>after
>>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of
pulling
>>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out
I
>>had
>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71%
was
>>>>water,
>>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all
>of
>>>>the
>>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not
>>responsible
>>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
>>>their
>>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It
took
>>>>>about
>>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them
>>a
>>>>choice,
>>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
>>owner
>>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their
tanks.
>>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many
reports
>>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over
>town.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>>>>to
>>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes
>>I
>>>>am
>>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like
>>it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>>not
>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>>opinion
>>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <exc
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trategy toward making the
USA safer.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com




> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>> One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>> if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>> that this country was founded on.
>> Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>> ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>> Gene
>
>
> I'm with you... But where is the line? Can you say that I hope we lose
>
> a war? Can you say the president should be killed? Can you yell "fire"
> in a crowded theater? Can you incite to riot? Can you publish information
> that is likely to cause the death of US military personnel?
>
> It is so damn easy to be for "free speech" and so damn hard to admit
> that nothing is free...
>
>
> DCOkay..Guys enough. We've all vented our views. I for one, harbor no ill feelings
to no one in our special forum. we are like family and like family, we debate,
yell, scream, fuss at each other.

I love all of you.. Really I do..I love our little forum. I love the fact
that we can talk about almost anything, then get back to discusing our passion
...Music
Thanks for cool topics and debates.. LaMont :)James!! Dudue.. Let's meet up and have a beer. You need a break form all of
this political BS.. Trust me, for last 2 years, btw the Fox news network
and talk radio, I was going nuts!!!

Put down the mouse... Turn off the TV and radio.. Go over to your drums..
And Play!!! :)

Then, let's meet up at Champs on M-59( next to the lexus dealership).. Oh...
Wait.. too many TVs in there..

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Mexicans love us! Bad TB!
>
> http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/fv.htm??g=602c7f69-8dbf-43c2-ab 3b-88f196ec05d9&t=s3&f=06/64&p=hotvideo_m_edpick s&fg=>1=9951Hi Kim. I'm sorry I did not see you r request for ASR10 sample..(Due to the
Debates..he he..

I have an extensive collection of Asr samples. I can put on a few cds and
ship to you.
Send me an email of your address..

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>http://www.syntaur.com/
>
>Mmm... if I buy them all suddenly my sampler won't have been so cheap...
>
>...it will sound mighty impressive though. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>>
>>Try these guys.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:465cea0b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>and is an incredibly dated sampler compatible with your goals of being
>a
>>> jazz
>>>>musician :-)
>>>
>>> Hehe. It's compatible with my goal to get a new toy without spending
too
>>> much and without too big a learning curve.
>>>
>>> And I always loved my old EPS. I'm sure there is better stuff out there
>
>>> than
>>> the ASR now, but I'm also sure it's not in my budget. ;o)
>>>
>>> I picked it up for $480 off ebay, so...
>>>
>>> But if you must know, I loaded a little jazz demo off the one of the
disks
>>> this morning while having a play and I think that yes, it might be. ;o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>
>>
>Amen, Chuck.

"Love it or leave it" is a blind denial of anyone who would rather
"improve it."

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


chuck duffy wrote:
> Aaron Wrote
>
> "If you think Chavez and Castro are so great, why don't you move outta our
> house and into theirs? I'm sure you'd find plenty of
> opportunities like recording audio and freedom of speech and religion there."
>
> Aaron,
>
> I see/hear/read paraphrases of what you posted all the time. On bumperstickers,
> on the net and I hear it in casual conversation. It's a re-hash of love
> it or leave it.
>
> The thing that f@#(*&( kills me about it, every time I hear/see/read it from
> people I love/hate/mildly dislike is that it boils down to the MOST ANTI
> AMERICAN expression possible.
>
> Chuck
>
>Wolfowitz is a scumbag... What a letdown that guy turned out to be...

DC


"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>LOL
>
>We don’t have much of a history of accountability. This seems like a good
>first step, but I want to name the members of his town council.
>
> http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/send_wolfowitz_. html
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:

>Can you say out loud that you believe another form of government is just
>as good or better then ours – ABSOLUTLY?

And the minute you advocate the violent overthrow of the government
to replace it with the preffered utopian nightmare of the hour, you
have crossed the line.

Democracy works. It can even vote itself out of existence. It cannot
be overthrown however, unless it dies due to internal rot...

DCThat's the best you got? Ok man...

DC


"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Dude, the policy makers in power don;t give a rats ass about freedoms, rather
>only their Oil!!
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here's your Mr. Bigballs right here
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PE78LG0&show_a rticle=1
>>
>>He is a coward and a tyrant.
>>
>>You talk about free speech being so american. Evidently you don't think
>>the Venezuelans deserve it though, since their dictator has such big balls
>>and all.
>>
>>Are Venezuelans less human than americans?
>>
>>DC
>I love my M3000. But depending on how you plan to use it, a good convolution
reverb might work as well for you and cost less.http://today.msnbc.msn.
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ah...

DCThey should send him to Iraq and paint a big day glow orange target on him;
)

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>LOL
>
>We don’t have much of a history of accountability. This seems like a good
>first step, but I want to name the members of his town council.
>
>

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nd_wolfowitz_.html" target="_blank"> http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/send_wolfowitz_. html
>"DC" <dc@spammersinRedmond.com> wrote:
>
>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/18928656
>
>SSC would LOVE this sh*t. Think there are audio applications?
>
>Oh yeah...

Oh great - just what the world needs... another Theremin.

:)Surrounding you country with hostile Communist countries wouldn't be improving
it! Communism is still not Ok!

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Amen, Chuck.
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t;>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>>>>>>due
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline
will
>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He
will
>>>>>start
>>>>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the
>>loss
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move
>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN
>>>>DUE
>>>>>>>>TO
>>>>>>>>>
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;>>>end up with the bill!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>However, it's afact that when people go out to Vegas to invest their
>>>>money,
>>>>>>>>the outcome is usuallly bad. The average american does not no how
>to
>>>>invest
>>>>>>>>in the market. That would be like wall street preying on the weak
>and
>>>>>innocent.
>>>>>>>>basically robing them (us)..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh yeah, we're dumb, we can be trusted to invest. Just keep buying
>>that
>>>>>>>liberal line! I'm talking about choice, but you don't get it. So
>hold
>>>>>>hard
>>>>>>>to you party lines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Go research what is going on in Taxes where they opted out of SS,
and
>>>>see
>>>>>>>what they are getting on there returns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Also, the Canadian medial system was poor(second rate) before they
>>went
>>>>>>>national.
>>>>>>>>By going national, only did it polarize what was already known..

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Canadian system doesn't work! I've explained it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>&g
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t;>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>LaMont, your thinking is way off! You can't blame everything on
>Bush.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My Canadian friends have to come over here because the waiting list
>>>>for
>>>>>>>>things
>>>>>>>>>like surgery or even test results are so long. It doesn't work
there,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>it wont work here, if our government runs it. Our government mismanages
>>>>>>>>>everything!!!!!!!! Yes there should be some kind of low cost or
>free
>>>>>>healthcare.
>>>>>>>>> It should only be for American citizens!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Social Security is a joke! The idiots in government keep robbing
>>it
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>pay
>>>>>>>>>for their pork programs. The first law should be that they can't
>>touch
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>because they never pay it back and it's our money! Second should
>>be
>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>the people have a choice in how it's invested, it's our money!!!
>
>>They
>>>>>>>should
>>>>>>>>>ha
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tosh-p29809.html

;o)Hehehe! and the whole time, the guy was trying to get out contact
info.....he was relentless........

;o)

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:465c2650@linux...
> You should've seen the look on the dude's face when Deej and I were in
> there having him look up the digital sampling cowbell.
> AA
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:C2810F00.A30A%dterry@keyofd.net...
>> Last week I was in Guitar Center (yeah, I know...) and noticed they had
>> NI's
>> Komplete 4 upgrade for $199, which is quite a good deal as it's $299
>> online
>> everywhere else. It's been on my list for a while, so I decided to go
>> back
>> this morning and pick it up in case it sells out during their Memorial
>> day
>> "sale".
>>
>> I didn't see it on the shelf, and of course the salesman has no idea what
>> the heck I'm talking about. So we go to a software sale table to look
>> for
>> it - he starts picking up boxes of Reason Refills (I refrain from
>> chuckling
>> out loud, though it was reeaaaallly hard to do :-). I finally find the
>> K4
>> upgrade box and the red and yellow "sale" tag says $249. I lift up the
>> tag,
>> and underneath is the big red and white $199 tag. I laugh and show the
>> salesman, saying "I guess $249 is a better deal than $199" - he laughs
>> nervously and says they can do $199 on it.
>>
>> Sale you say? Sure.... I guess ineptness isn't illegal, otherwise the
>> lawsuit against GC wo
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dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>I do mostly acoustic music, and I’ve not been blown away with the
>> reverb I’ve gotten from the Lexicon PCM70 (I’ve heard people
>>love them on drums & certain things) and am thinking to
>>sell/trade it towards something else. I’ve heard great things
>>about TC M3000 and Kurzweil KSP8. I’m wondering if the KSP8 has
>>enough advantages over the M3000 to justify the higher price tag,
>> when what I basically need are nice reverbs for acoustic music.
>>Or is there another killer unit out there that might accomplish
>>this (for, say under a grand)?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dale
>>
> I'm working with kids in their 20's with 100k in debt making 30k. They
> are
> so screwed.

sooo....that's not normal?

;o}A-ha, but none of those things represents "the future" does it?

<grin>

Wouldn't be the first time the pros have made a living from
industry hype...

DC

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>But the high end places already have things the smaller studios don't, like
>SSL/Neve desks, big fancy monitors, vintage mics and instruments, hot secretaries,
>coke dealers on speed dial, and so forth. But they're still getting their
>clocks cleaned.
>
>I'm wrong a lot, I thought the Colts were nuts for passing on Ryan Leaf
(no,
>really, I did), but I wouldn't bet a dime on the Surface getting traction
>in the market.
>
>TCB
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Seems to me, because of the sophistication of the potential
>>audio application using the thing, that it could provide something
>>to the highend studio that the home DAW people cannot
>>compete with, nor afford.
>>
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm a professional geek, I saw the youtube stuff a while ago. Really cool
>>>tech, I agree, I just don't see it having a wide enough appeal to go very
>>>far.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Read this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/112/open_features-cantto uchthis.html
>>>>
>>>>Do watch the video...
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
>On a serious note. That's too bad mackie could not pix the bugs on such a
promising mixer. I heard that it really sounded nice.

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>If it isn't dead, it's probably gonna die because it is probably made in

>China and they will probably indoctrinate tthe faders to do subversive
>things.
>
>;o)
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465db8f9$1@linux...
>>
>> James. Enough .. What's going on with the Mackie DXB. Is it a dead
>> product?
>> If it is (dead), then that makes our plight with EMU looks pale. And,
is
>> says alot about mackie
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>You keep proving my point. The cold war has started on Chavez. Initiated
>>>by
>>>>our CIA..It's classic
>>>>Probably the only war they can win theses days.
>>>>
>>>
>>>The Cold War is not over! It's the communist that are keeping it all

>>>going.
>>> Russia and China have been building up arms for years now! It is them
>> that
>>>are starting the arms race all over again. Go do some research!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84248 is a reply to message #84246] Wed, 09 May 2007 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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om" target="_blank">dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does being
>>>>>>>>>an american mean anything?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think.
>>>Even
>>>>>>>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic
>> principle
>>>>>>>>that this country was founded on.
>>>>>>>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic
>>>American
>>>>>>>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>>>>>>>Gene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>We stopped selling Mackie 4 years ago because we saw the writing on
the wall... NOT the company they once were.

David.

LaMont wrote:
> On a serious note. That's too bad mackie could not pix the bugs on such a
> promising mixer. I heard that it really sounded nice.
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>>If it isn't dead, it's probably gonna die because it is probably made in
>
>
>>China and they will probably indoctrinate tthe faders to do subversive
>>things.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465db8f9$1@linux...
>>
>>>James. Enough .. What's going on with the Mackie DXB. Is it a dead
>>>product?
>>>If it is (dead), then that makes our plight with EMU looks pale. And,
>
> is
>
>>>says alot about mackie
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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ppears. ;o)
>

I have a Plextor cd-rom (external) - it's got a scsi-2 connector on
it.

pabMmm. The compatibility list doesn't mention them.

Is this the 50-pin centronics plug, or the "Paris" style in the 50 pin version?

Cheers,
Kim.

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 1 Jun 2007 14:30:17 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>My ASR-10 needs 50 pin SCSi gear. In particular hdd's around 2 gig, A CD-ROM
>>drive, Zip drives, external cases, cables, etc etc...
>>
>>If anybody has any of this "obsolete" stuff lying about waiting to be thrown
>>away, please let me know as perhaps it's not as useless as it appears.
;o)
>>
>
>I have a Plextor cd-rom (external) - it's got a scsi-2 connector on
>it.
>
>pabIf you could have only one UAD-1 plugin, what would you pick for each of the
following?

Drums

VOX

Rock GuitarI have a 4 GIG external case HDD with Centronics 50 pin on it, used to be
attached to a Darwin.
Email me privately

AA

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:465fa0d9$1@linux...
>
>
> My ASR-10 needs 50 pin SCSi gear. In particular hdd's around 2 gig, A
> CD-ROM
> drive, Zip drives, external cases, cables, etc etc...
>
> If anybody has any of this "obsolete" stuff lying about waiting to be
> thrown
> away, please let me know as perhaps it's not as useless as it appears. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.oh... and a Philips 4xCD-r burner, I think..... I pulled it from it's case,
but I 'probably' have the parts here somewhere to put it back in the case.
Should have some SCSI terminators around here as well somewhere.

AA


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:465fc68e$1@linux...
>I have a 4 GIG external case HDD with Centronics 50 pin on it, used to be
>attached to a Darwin.
> Email me privately
>
> AA
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:465fa0d9$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> My ASR-10 needs 50 pin SCSi gear. In particular hdd's around 2 gig, A
>> CD-ROM
>> drive, Zip drives, external cases, cables, etc etc...
>>
>> If anybody has any of this "obsolete" stuff lying about waiting to be
>> thrown
>> away, please let me know as perhaps it's not as useless as it appears.
>> ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>exactly my reasoning too...man, we are related.


On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:06:25 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:

>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:37fq53p8t28oas4ub330qnk2u4k0ma8ado@4ax.com...
>> amen. and while i may not agree with all of thier causes, i for one
>> am happy with than the aclu continues to exist on our behalf.
>>
>
>Me too.........I hear they are currently getting ready to defend a
>geneticist who is attempting combine the DNA of Eldridge Cleaver, David
>Duke, Charles Rust-Tierney and hire the Indigo girls to envitro a cloned
>sheep with this recipe by using a turkey baster.
>
>It's a free country, dammit!!!
>
>;o)
>
>Aaron,

I emailed you, assuming the address I found is correct. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>oh... and a Philips 4xCD-r burner, I think..... I pulled it from it's case,

>but I 'probably' have the parts here somewhere to put it
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.com> wrote:
>
>Drums - Roland Space Echo on the snare
>
>Vox - Roland Space Echo
>
>Guitar - Roland Space echo

What kind of plugin would you use on the Roland Space Echo track?

:)"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Drums - Roland Space Echo on the snare
>>
>>Vox - Roland Space Echo
>>
>>Guitar - Roland Space echo
>
>What kind of plugin would you use on the Roland Space Echo track?
>
>:)

Maybe a PSP 84?

TCBI use the LA2A on vox, is the fairchild that much better? I used up my demo
too long ago, and did not get into it enough.

In what ways are you using the 1176 on drums?
Is the LN much better?

Should I go for the Helios or fairchild next?

Oh an I love my real 201 space echo too. I think of it almost as instrument
sometimes.


"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Drums - Roland Space Echo on the snare
>>
>>Vox - Roland Space Echo
>>
>>Guitar - Roland Space echo
>
>What kind of plugin would you use on the Roland Space Echo track?
>
>:)UAD 1073's on drums.

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Inquiring minds want to know."cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Rod, aore you finding the latency for the Helois is the same as the big
neve?

Yes, it's exactly the same as the big version of both neve eq's
For the way I do things, that means 400 ms back (4x100) and 1505 samples
on sampleslide
RodNo, it isn't really better, just different, I just find myself using it more,
for my taste.
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>I use the LA2A on vox, is the fairchild that much better? I used up my demo
>too long ago, and did not get into it enough.

No, it isn't really better, just different, I just find myself using it more,
for my taste.

>
>In what ways are you using the 1176 on drums?

snare sometimes, kik sometimes, room mics sometimes, toms sometimes, Overheads
sometimes. It's just probably the most versitile, so I picked that. I'm actually
starting to use the Neve comp on snare a lot these days. I didn' list it
because it's a DSP hog, sounds great on snare though (and bass guitar)

>Is the LN much better?
Brian T. actually liked the SE version better for drums, I still usually
use the LN, they're pretty close, imo
>
>Should I go for the Helios or fairchild next?

I'd say the Fairchild, but that's because I havn't had enouth time with the
helios yet to get the hang of it. How about both?
;-)
>
>Oh an I love my real 201 space echo too. I think of it almost as instrument
>sometimes.
>
>
>"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Drums - Roland Space Echo on the snare
>>>
>>>Vox - Roland Space Echo
>>>
>>>Guitar - Roland Space echo
>>
>>What kind of plugin would you use on the Roland Space Echo track?
>>
>>:)
>EK.. The Onyx line of products are very nice indeed. I was really looking
forward to them completing the DXB (200/400)
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84261 is a reply to message #84260] Thu, 10 May 2007 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mixer..

EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>We stopped selling Mackie 4 years ago because we saw the writing on
>the wall... NOT the company they once were.
>
>David.
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> On a serious note. That's too bad mackie could not pix the bugs on such
a
>> promising mixer. I heard that it really sounded nice.
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>>If it isn't dead, it's probably gonna die because it is probably made
in
>>
>>
>>>China and they will probably indoctrinate tthe faders to do subversive

>>>things.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465db8f9$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>James. Enough .. What's going on with the Mackie DXB. Is it a dead
>>>>product?
>>>>If it is (dead), then that makes our plight with EMU looks pale. And,
>>
>> is
>>
>>>>says alot about mackie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You keep proving my point. The cold war has started on Chavez. Initiated
>>>>>
>>>>>by
>>>>>
>>>>>>our CIA..It's classic
>>>>>>Probably the only war they can win theses days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The Cold War is not over! It's the communist that are keeping it all
>>
>>
>>>>>going.
>>>>>Russia and China have been building up arms for years now! It is them
>>>>
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>>are starting the arms race all over again. Go do some research!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>&
Re: Why we need the 2nd Amendment [message #84262 is a reply to message #84261] Thu, 10 May 2007 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;>Please.. I'm not a communist, but this is the land of free. Free
to
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>workship
>>>>>>>>any religion you see fit. Free to believe want you want. Free to
say
>>>>
>>>>what
>>>>
>>>>>>>>you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Speaking of freedoms, here are more of the CIA Bush lackeys marching
>>
>> in
>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>streets of Caracas. Might want to read the information on the subject.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2007_RCTV_protests
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yeah, like pissing on a crucifix and calling it freedom of speech.
>>>>
>>>>But
>>>>
>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it comes to a nativity seen or the ten commandments the greasy
>>>>>>>>>schmucks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the ACLU are ready to sue. Where is the freedom of speech then?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes it's anti American to say communism is Ok! And it disrespects
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>who fought and died for your freedoms.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does
being
>>>>>>>>>>>an american mean anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>>Even
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic
>>>>
>>>>principle
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>that this country was founded on.
>>>>>>>>>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic
>>>>>
>>>>>American
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>>>>>>>>>Gene
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>I had a Space Echo and sold it, I think because I'm a raging moron. These
days for whacked delay fun I use a Moogerfooger pedal. Not a Space Echo but
still pretty cool.

TCB

"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>I use the LA2A on vox, is the fairchild that much better? I used up my demo
>too long ago, and did not get into it enough.
>
>In what ways are you using the 1176 on drums?
>Is the LN much better?
>
>Should I go for the Helios or fairchild next?
>
>Oh an I love my real 201 space echo too. I think of it almost as instrument
>sometimes.
>
>
>"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Drums - Roland Space Echo on the snare
>>>
>>>Vox - Roland Space Echo
>>>
>>>Guitar - Roland Space echo
>>
>>What kind of plugin would you use on the Roland Space Echo track?
>>
>>:)
>>I use the LA2A on vox, is the fairchild that much better? I used up my demo
>too long ago, and did not get into it enough.

Better? Subjective call...but for what I am wanting to hear, the Fairchild
usually gets it done. To my ears, it is much smoother and responsive to
nuance than the LA2 (which, just so you know, neither are really that close
to the originals...I've heard a well maintained Fairchild in a studio, and
it is as close to a sonic orgasm as I've heard - but they cost $30,000 plus
an additional $5K to maintain each year.)
>In what ways are you using the 1176 on drums?
>Is the LN much better?

I use the 1176 pretty much as a flavor enhancer and limiter, running drum
submixes on the 1st button (4 db), attack time at 9 release at about 2-3...some
people like the "all buttons" setting - not my cup of coffee..."James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:465fb6a2$1@linux...
>
> If you could have only one UAD-1 plugin, what would you pick for each of
> the
> following?
>
> Drums

Neve 33609

>
> VOX

LA-2A
>
> Rock Guitar

I just rotate the SUCK pot."DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:465fb6a2$1@linux...
>>
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>> If you could have only one UAD-1 plugin, what would you pick for each
of
>> the
>> following?
>>
>> Drums
>
>Neve 33609
>
>>
>> VOX
>
>LA-2A
>>
>> Rock Guitar
>
>I just rotate the SUCK pot.

When you combine that with the "Soar" button, you have an
unbeatable combination.

:)"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The compatibility list is here:
>http://www.chickensys.com/hd_compt.html
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>My ASR-10 needs 50 pin SCSi gear. In particular hdd's around 2 gig, A CD-ROM
>>drive, Zip drives, external cases, cables, etc etc...
>>
>>If anybody has any of this "obsolete" stuff lying about waiting to be thrown
>>away, please let me know as perhaps it's not as useless as it appears.
;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>I would say:

-Sonalkis Comps and Eqs
-Waves SSL Comps/Eqs.
-Kjaerhus free classic plugins. These are free plugins and they are my go-to
plugs for Delay, Chorus, compression. They are amazing!!

-Verbs: W2, Altiverb, IK Classic Reverb.

Virtual Intruments: NI (FM8, Absynth3,B4) Albino,Aturia (MiniMoog)..too many
list..I'm a certifiable Vsti slut!!..I'm currently working a 3rd and 4 th
machine to do the follwoing..

-Vsti PC#1.. Vstack: Synths galour
-Vst PC#2...Giga Studio ...(Over 500 Gigs) of sample
-Vst PC#3...Virtual Drums(BFD,DKFH-CV, Battery3,Stylus,RMX, Drum Core
-Vst PC#4..Dedicated Sample Vsti Libs (East west)..

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Inquiring minds want to know.Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Inquiring minds want to know.

Lead Vocals: Voxengo's Voxformer. 100% go-to all the time.

All other stuff kinda varies for me, depending on what it needs,
if anything.

NeilHey Kim.
I have a pile of this shit that I accumulated through the years
for my K2000.
No 2gb drives, but about half dozen 1GB Seagates, a SCSI zip that
I picked up from "The Brotherhood" for 5 bucks, on one of my
previous trips to your fair city, and several CD-Roms/burners
that may work with the ASR.
Also A bunch of cables, old SCSI cases/power supplies etc.
Just so happens I'm gonna be in Melb in a week or two.
Wanna hook up this time?
Let me know and I will bring over what I've got.
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The compatibility list is here:
>http://www.chickensys.com/hd_compt.html
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>My ASR-10 needs 50 pin SCSi gear. In particular hdd's around 2 gig, A CD-ROM
>>drive, Zip drives, external cases, cables, etc etc...
>>
>>If anybody has any of this "obsolete" stuff lying about waiting to be thrown
>>away, please let me know as perhaps it's not as useless as it appears.
;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>Kim,

I'd definitely like to catch up regardless, but if you bring all that stuff,
beer and a counter meal are definitely on me!

Aside from switching and changing the ASR can of course take 7 SCSI devices
anyhow, so it all sounds good. I have a couple of 2 gig drives coming from
Perth shortly, and various other bits of hardware have turned up. Suffice
to say I'll just collect as much as I can I think. Anything I don't use immediately
can be put in storage in case anything breaks. Identical sized drives are
ideal too as the ASR can only copy from one device to another if the drives
are identical.

Let me know when you're coming. IIRC you stay only a short distance up the
road anyhow, so hopefully we can get together. Email me and I'll shoot you
my mobile no.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <No@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Kim.
>I have a pile of this shit that I accumulated through the years
>for my K2000.
>No 2gb drives, but about half dozen 1GB Seagates, a SCSI zip that
>I picked up from "The Brotherhood" for 5 bucks, on one of my
>previous trips to your fair city, and several CD-Roms/burners
>that may work with the ASR.
>Also A bunch of cables, old SCSI cases/power supplies etc.
>Just so happens I'm gonna be in Melb in a week or two.
>Wanna hook up this time?
>Let me know and I will bring over what I've got.
>Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The compatibility list is here:
>>http://www.chickensys.com/hd_compt.html
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>My ASR-10 needs 50 pin SCSi gear. In particular hdd's around 2 gig, A
CD-ROM
>>>drive, Zip drives, external cases, cables, etc etc...
>>>
>>>If anybody has any of this "obsolete" stuff lying about waiting to be
thrown
>>>away, please let me know as perhaps it's not as useless as it appears.
>;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>Mackie used to be about making good functional stuff for reasonable
money... now it's about lining the shareholders pockets. I miss Greg...

David.

LaMont wrote:
> EK.. The Onyx line of products are very nice indeed. I was really looking
> forward to them completing the DXB (200/400) mixer..
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>We stopped selling Mackie 4 years ago because we saw the writing on
>>the wall... NOT the company they once were.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>
>>>On a serious note. That's too bad mackie could not pix the bugs on such
>
> a
>
>>>promising mixer. I heard that it really sounded nice.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it isn't dead, it's probably gonna die because it is probably made
>
> in
>
>>>
>>>>China and they will probably indoctrinate tthe faders to do subversive
>
>
>>>>things.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465db8f9$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>James. Enough .. What's going on with the Mackie DXB. Is it a dead
>>>>>product?
>>>>>If it is
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(dead), then that makes our plight with EMU looks pale. And,
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>
>>>>>says alot about mackie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You keep proving my point. The cold war has started on Chavez. Initiated
>>>>>>
>>>>>>by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>our CIA..It's classic
>>>>>>>Probably the only war they can win theses days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Cold War is not over! It's the communist that are keeping it all
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>going.
>>>>>>Russia and China have been building up arms for years now! It is them
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>are starting the arms race all over again. Go do some research!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Please.. I'm not a communist, but this is the land of free. Free
>
> to
>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>workship
>>>>>>>>>any religion you see fit. Free to believe want you want. Free to
>
> say
>
>>>>>what
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Speaking of freedoms, here are more of the CIA Bush lackeys marching
>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>streets of Caracas. Might want to read the information on the subject.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2007_RCTV_protests
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, like pissing on a crucifix and calling it freedom of speech.
>>>>>
>>>>>But
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>it comes to a nativity seen or the ten commandments the greasy
>>>>>>>>>>schmucks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the ACLU are ready to sue. Where is the freedom of speech then?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes it's anti American to say communism is Ok! And it disrespects
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>>who fought and died for your freedoms.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does
>
> being
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>an american mean anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>DC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Even
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic
>>>>>
>>>>>principle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>that this country was founded on.
>>>>>>>>>>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>American
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>>>>>>>>>>Gene
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>Did Greg die?

"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:466051f1@linux...
> Mackie used to be about making good functional stuff for reasonable
> money... now it's about lining the shareholders pockets. I miss Greg...
>
> David.
>
> LaMont wrote:
>> EK.. The Onyx line of products are very nice indeed. I was really looking
>> forward to them completing the DXB (200/400) mixer.. EK Sound
>> <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>We stopped selling Mackie 4 years ago because we saw the writing on the
>>>wall... NOT the company they once were.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>
>>>>On a serious note. That's too bad mackie could not pix the bugs on such
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>promising mixer. I heard that it really sounded nice.
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If it isn't dead, it's probably gonna die because it is probably made
>>
>> in
>>
>>>>
>>>>>China and they will probably indoctrinate tthe faders to do subversive
>>
>>
>>>>>things.
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:465db8f9$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>James. Enough .. What's going on with the Mackie DXB. Is it a dead
>>>>>>product?
>>>>>>If it is (dead), then that makes our plight with EMU looks pale. And,
>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>says alot about mackie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You keep proving my point. The cold war has started on Chavez.
>>>>>>>>Initiated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>
>>>>&
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gt;>>
>>>>>>>>our CIA..It's classic
>>>>>>>>Probably the only war they can win theses days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Cold War is not over! It's the communist that are keeping it all
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