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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56338 is a reply to message #56337] |
Wed, 27 July 2005 21:04   |
Tom Bruhl
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what King had in mind is it?
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>2. The fundamental difference between the left and the right on
>this is NO LONGER "do we like black people?" any more. This is not
>1961. (and honestly, look at liberal cities like San Fran and
>Portland OR and try to find some black people) The fundamental
>difference today is whether we believe that the government should
>provide equal opportunities or equal results. The right believes
>that the government should provide equal opportunites, but the
>left believes that unequal results automatically equal racism.
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>The left believe this because it keeps them in power and keeps
>people coming back to them for handouts, creating a permanent
>underclass of black victims on the bottom and white liberals on top with
>handouts.
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>But of course, equal opportunity does not always give equal results.
>And that offends those with socialistic bents. Unfortunately for
>them, the methods of providing equal results always fail, and
>pretty much everyone knows it.
>
>Why do African immigrants do so much better than many black
>americans? They do. Better grades, better jobs. It clearly is
>not the genes.
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>Racism isn't just sinful, it's stupid.
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>It's the damn culture, not the people. Read Thomas Sowell on this.
>That culture, derived from slave owners, has a history all the way
>back to england, scotland and ireland, and every group, white or
>black that embraces it, sees the same phenomena that black
>american culture currently suffers from.
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>I spent most of my life in academia, and I have done more than
>have black friends. I have mentored and led young black men.
>Today, nearly all are succesful and many are professionals, and it
>all started with changing the way they think. Racism is not the
>issue. It's like "whack-a-mole", we need to hammer it wherever it
>pops up, but that won't change things. What made the change
>is a sense of ownership.
>
>Young man came in my office one day to apologize for being late.
>Said he was in jail. Turns out he was in McDonalds late at night,
>just "eating while black" and a couple of Fontana cops rousted him.
>When he simply asked them why they were hassling him, he ended
>up in jail with a summons. He was so mad he was nearly shaking.
>He felt beaten, and like a victim of a mssive power structure that
>hated him for his skin color. He was set to pay the fine, but the
>hate from this expreience was palpable in him. I said "to hell with
>that, don't pay a damn thing". You are an AMERICAN, you own
>this country as much as anyone else. Don't react to this like those
>racist cops expect you to. You go in dressed well, and plead
>"not guilty" in a loud and clear voice and explain what happened
>as if you expect to be exonerated. Be righteous, be strong.
>
>The judge threw out the case and chewed out the cops.
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>Today he helps run a restaurant. Has a nicer car than I do.
>
>The reason I reacted so strongly to Kanye West's nonsense, and
>Jason repeating it here, is that it goes to the heart of this issue.
>
>White racists look at the looting in NO and go "how come them
>people is all black?" As if their skin was what made them criminals.
>And Kanye and others cannot stand the apparent loss of respect
>that represents, so they must push the blame somewhere else, so
>they tell lies about the president,
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56347 is a reply to message #56344] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 07:15   |
Deej [1]
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us all and hope this can
>be the beginning of a different era for our country and ALL our
>people.
>
>peace,
>PeteHi, all.
I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
I hope I don't have to stick to 120's for my remaining Paris
years.
Thanks
Kimgoing from memory, I think there has to be a patch applied that you can get
from microsoft for 98 to handle that size drive.
http://support.microsoft.com
search the knowledge base and see if I remember correctly for it.
AA
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:431e89fc$1@linux...
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> Hi, all.
> I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
> to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
> I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
> all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
> I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
> Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
> Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
> 120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
> running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
> I hope I don't have to stick to 120's for my remaining Paris
> years.
> Thanks
> Kimmy bad... it must've been BIOS that I had the problems with way back.. what
kind of mobo are you looking at?
FAT32: This file system supports drives that are up to 2 terabytes in size
and stores files on smaller sections of the hard disk than the FAT16 file
system does. This results in more free space on the hard disk. The FAT32
file system does not support drives that are smaller than 512 MB.For
additional information about the FAT32 file system, click the article number
below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
AA
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:431e8c22$1@linux...
> going from memory, I think there has to be a patch applied that you can
> get from microsoft for 98 to handle that size drive.
> http://support.microsoft.com
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> search the knowledge base and see if I remember correctly for it.
>
> AA
>
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> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:431e89fc$1@linux...
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>> Hi, all.
>> I've got a couple of WD1600jb dr
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56349 is a reply to message #56344] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 07:57   |
EK Sound
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.com" target="_blank">hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Kim,
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>In case you haven't been watching the threads... with the gigabyte motherboard,
>I sorted out all the issues in the end. I beleive there was a dodgy WinXP
>disk involved in most of my issues, and in the end I discovered that the
>board I got was faulty, as the SATA ports on the board died in the end,
and
>it's now been taken back to the store for replacement.
>
>But, in the middle there, I did get the thing running perfectly. I spent
>a weekend with Paris loaded with all my plugins, switching from project
to
>project and playing different things, and she was running perfectly. Once
>I got everything properly loaded, I couldn't fault it.
>
>So despite all the troubles I had, I'd still recommend this board. It's
extremely
>quick, and seems capable of being extremely stable as well, so long as you
>use a working XP disk and don't get a faulty board. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
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>>Hi, all.
>>I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
>>to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
>>I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
>>all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
>>I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
>>Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
>>Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
>>120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
>>running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
>>I hope I don't have to stick to 120's
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56350 is a reply to message #56347] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 08:01   |
Dimitrios
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for my remaining Paris
>>years.
>>Thanks
>>Kim
>Thanks, Aaron.
I'll look into it tomorrow, as I need to head off now.
The mobo is an Asus P4PE.
The Bios seemed happy enough with the drives.
I shall probably be switching shortly to the Gigabyte KNS Ultra,
on Kim's recommendation.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>my bad... it must've been BIOS that I had the problems with way back.. what
>kind of mobo are you looking at?
>
> FAT32: This file system supports drives that are up to 2 terabytes in size
>and stores files on smaller sections of the hard disk than the FAT16 file
>system does. This results in more free space on the hard disk. The FAT32
>file system does not support drives that are smaller than 512 MB.For
>additional information about the FAT32 file system, click the article number
>below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
>
>AA
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:431e8c22$1@linux...
>> going from memory, I think there has to be a patch applied that you can
>> get from microsoft for 98 to handle that size drive.
>> http://support.microsoft.com
>>
>> search the knowledge base and see if I remember correctly for it.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:431e89fc$1@linux...
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>>> Hi, all.
>>> I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
>>> to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
>>> I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
>>> all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
>>> I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
>>> Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
>>> Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
>>> 120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
>>> running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
>>> I hope I don't have to stick to 120's for my remaining Paris
>>> years.
>>> Thanks
>>> Kim
>>
>>
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>As you're saying Pete.
Nearly a whole world too have sent messages about helping hands. As I've
seen in Scandinavian news, about all American political enemies like Cuba,
Iran etc. have showed up and wanna give their helping hands too. When
natural catastrophes like these are showing up around the world, it showes
really well that there's no difference at all in the soul between the people
of the world.
Erling
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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> I felt I wanted and needed to post this now.Let me preface this
> by saying I'm not taking into account Iraq or whatever else you
> want to throw here;this is based on what I'm seeing in response
> to the tradgedy.
>
> I felt a positive post might be good in all the heated
> discussions going on now.Not to say these discussions aren't
> needed and can't be productive.I just got a few good vibes
> tonight and needed them after feeling so helpless,discouraged,
> disappointed etc. for the last 8 days.
>
> I think we all can agree there was a breakdown in the response
> to Katrina.Blame this breakdown where you must;federal,state,
> local go
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56352 is a reply to message #56350] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 08:00   |
EK Sound
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re with thousands of pairs
> of shoes etc.A prison that has been closed for years was
> renovated in a week for victims to live in temporarily.I was just
> thinking of how it was located right in the middle of the worst
> hit area in St. Louis in the '93 flood.When I called the
> volunteer line they said they were getting 800 calls an hour.
>
> There are volunteers from all over the country in the gulf
> coast now;rescuing people,providing medical services,providing
> food,shelter,rescuing pets.I've seen churches sustaining
> communities where FEMA and other organizations have yet to show
> up.These churches being sustained by donations from everywhere;
> some regular folks just showing up with truckloads from
> states far away.All kinds of cross-country church network
> donations;money,supplies,human resources,shelter,counseling.
>
> The multiple cities trying to take in the vast number of
> victims;find them housing,food,other family members.Free hotel
> rooms to stay in;people just being there with signs when they
> arrive-welcome
> friends and neighbors.Schools and colleges
> taking in students on the spot no questions asked.Those schools
> often adopting those families to care for.Strangers opening
> their homes to other strangers;often making for tight living
> conditions.Companies offering work to the thousands upon
> thousands of victims left jobless.And of course all the monetary
> donations.
>
> Don't get me wrong,I know there are problems and I don't see it
> all through rose colored glasses.And it is a shame that something
> like this has to bring us together.Hopefully from this tragedy
> we can fix what is broken.Hopefully we can face,discuss and try
> to heal some large problems that face this country.Right now
> though I'm am going to enjoy the momentary lift in my spirit that
> I'm getting from "we the people".Bless us all and hope this can
> be the beginning of a different era for our country and ALL our
> people.
>
> peace,
> PeteWin98 can't use "fat32" formatting at all, just "fat16", as far as I
remember. I think "fat32" first showed up in Win98 second edition or WinME.
Hope this can help you to find out more about the problem.
Erling
"Kim W." <no@way.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:431e89fc$1@linux...
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> Hi, all.
> I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
> to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
> I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
> all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
> I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
> Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
> Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
> 120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
> running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
> I hope I don't have to stick to 120's for my remaining Paris
> years.
> Thanks
> Kimlike...yes.
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:28:54 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>The end of an era. He was absolutely brilliant as Maynard G. Krebbs on the
>Dobie Gillis show. I will remember his role a Maynard much more than
>Gilligan.
>
>Sad...........
>:(
>
>"Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:431de6f9@linux...
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168600,00.html
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>Yep, the one I'm using is a K8NS Ultra 939.
It has 5 PCI slots, Firewire, 2 pairs of SATA ports plus a prim and sec IDE,
built in audio with COAX and Optical digital outs and some silly number of
channels of analog if you care.
I'm pretty sure there are variants with PCI express, and different feature
sets. For what I wanted this one was the ultimate, and I can't imagine you'd
find a better suited board in the giga range unless you wanted less features,
but at $149 you can turn things off in the BIOS if you don't want them.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
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>Hey, Thanks for the info, Kim.
>It was an "Ultra" wasn't it? There seem to be a few
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56353 is a reply to message #56349] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 08:05   |
Dimitrios
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variants of
>this board, the differences between which I don't know.
>Kim
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>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Kim,
>>
>>In case you haven't been watching the threads... with the gigabyte motherboard,
>>I sorted out all the issues in the end. I beleive there was a dodgy WinXP
>>disk involved in most of my issues, and in the end I discovered that the
>>board I got was faulty, as the SATA ports on the board died in the end,
>and
>>it's now been taken back to the store for replacement.
>>
>>But, in the middle there, I did get the thing running perfectly. I spent
>>a weekend with Paris loaded with all my plugins, switching from project
>to
>>project and playing different things, and she was running perfectly. Once
>>I got everything properly loaded, I couldn't fault it.
>>
>>So despite all the troubles I had, I'd still recommend this board. It's
>extremely
>>quick, and seems capable of being extremely stable as well, so long as
you
>>use a working XP disk and don't get a faulty board. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi, all.
>>>I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
>>>to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
>>>I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
>>>all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
>>>I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
>>>Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
>>>Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
>>>120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
>>>running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
>>>I hope I don't have to stick to 120's for my remaining Paris
>>>years.
>>>Thanks
>>>Kim
>>
>Who needs it..? =)
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>Sorry for not posting in the general section Kim,but I thought
>more might see it here.
Hehe, gee do I com
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56354 is a reply to message #56352] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 08:23   |
Dimitrios
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e across as that bigger Nazi? ;o) Your post is incredibly
positive and warm hearted in nature. If it turns to political arguments I'll
be amazed and dissapointed, and it's certainly clear that that wasn't your
intention.
I'm touched by your story. It is very warming to hear of the efforts people
are going to.
Cheers,
Kim.It's seems to be nearly similar to the Asus A8V Deluxe board I have ordered
and will get in about a week or so.
http://no.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=238& amp;l1=3&l2=15&l3=0
I've changed my order for the processor to an AMD64 X2 3800 dual core so I'm
really curious on what will happen when testing out.
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/athlon64-x2-3800/in dex.x?pg=1
I think the only differenc is the new Firewire-B port on K8NS Ultra 939 and
the geforce 3 chipset, where A8V Deluxe is using normal Firewire and VIA
K8T800Pro chipset.
I will test it with Paris too but I don't know how the chipset will work
with ME yet.
Regards
Erling
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:431eb768$1@linux...
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>
> Yep, the one I'm using is a K8NS Ultra 939.
>
> It has 5 PCI slots, Firewire, 2 pairs of SATA ports plus a prim and sec
> IDE,
> built in audio with COAX and Optical digital outs and some silly number of
> channels of analog if you care.
>
> I'm pretty sure there are variants with PCI express, and different feature
> sets. For what I wanted this one was the ultimate, and I can't imagine
> you'd
> find a better suited board in the giga range unless you wanted less
> features,
> but at $149 you can turn things off in the BIOS if you don't want them.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey, Thanks for the info, Kim.
>>It was an "Ultra" wasn't it? There seem to be a few variants of
>>this board, the differences between which I don't know.
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Kim,
>>>
>>>In case you haven't been watching the threads... with the gigabyte
>>>motherboard,
>>>I sorted out all the issues in the end. I beleive there was a dodgy WinXP
>>>disk involved in most of my issues, and in the end I discovered that the
>>>board I got was faulty, as the SATA ports on the board died in the end,
>>and
>>>it's now been taken back to the store for replacement.
>>>
>>>But, in the middle there, I did get the thing running perfectly. I spent
>>>a weekend with Paris loaded with all my plugins, switching from project
>>to
>>>project and playing different things, and she was running perfectly. Once
>>>I got everything properly loaded, I couldn't fault it.
>>>
>>>So despite all the troubles I had, I'd still recommend this board. It's
>>extremely
>>>quick, and seems capable of being extremely stable as well, so long as
> you
>>>use a working XP disk and don't get a faulty board. ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
>>>>to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
>>>>I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
>>>>all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
>>>>I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
>>>>Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
>>>>Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
>>>>120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
>>>>running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
>>>>I hope I don't have to stick to 120's for my remaining Paris
>>>>years.
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Kim
>>>
>>
>Is it for give away;-)
erlilo
"DynaMic_Sound" <dynamic_sound@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Who needs it..? =)
>
>
>
>That will be an interesting experiment. I have seen it posted here that the
Athlon X2 core is seen by the OS in the same way as Hyperthreading, which,
of course, has to be turned off to run Paris. You might find the dual core
Athlon is not so good for Paris.
Cheers,
Kim.
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>It's seem
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56355 is a reply to message #56350] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 09:18   |
Deej [1]
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s to be nearly similar to the Asus A8V Deluxe board I have ordered
>and will get in about a week or so.
> http://no.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=238& amp;l1=3&l2=15&l3=0
>
>I've changed my order for the processor to an AMD64 X2 3800 dual core so
I'm
>really curious on what will happen when testing out.
> http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/athlon64-x2-3800/in dex.x?pg=1
>
>I think the only differenc is the new Firewire-B port on K8NS Ultra 939
and
>the geforce 3 chipset, where A8V Deluxe is using normal Firewire and VIA
>K8T800Pro chipset.
>
>I will test it with Paris too but I don't know how the chipset will work
>with ME yet.
>
>Regards
>Erling
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:431eb768$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Yep, the one I'm using is a K8NS Ultra 939.
>>
>> It has 5 PCI slots, Firewire, 2 pairs of SATA ports plus a prim and sec
>> IDE,
>> built in audio with COAX and Optical digital outs and some silly number
of
>> channels of analog if you care.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure there are variants with PCI express, and different feature
>> sets. For what I wanted this one was the ultimate, and I can't imagine
>> you'd
>> find a better suited board in the giga range unless you wanted less
>> features,
>> but at $149 you can turn things off in the BIOS if you don't want them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey, Thanks for the info, Kim.
>>>It was an "Ultra" wasn't it? There seem to be a few variants of
>>>this board, the differences between which I don't know.
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kim,
>>>>
>>>>In case you haven't been watching the threads... with the gigabyte
>>>>motherboard,
>>>>I sorted out all the issues in the end. I beleive there was a dodgy WinXP
>>>>disk involved in most of my issues, and in the end I discovered that
the
>>>>board I got was faulty, as the SATA ports on the board died in the end,
>>>and
>>>>it's now been taken back to the store for replacement.
>>>>
>>>>But, in the middle there, I did get the thing running perfectly. I spent
>>>>a weekend with Paris loaded with all my plugins, switching from project
>>>to
>>>>project and playing different things, and she was running perfectly.
Once
>>>>I got everything properly loaded, I couldn't fault it.
>>>>
>>>>So despite all the troubles I had, I'd still recommend this board. It's
>>>extremely
>>>>quick, and seems capable of being extremely stable as well, so long as
>> you
>>>>use a working XP disk and don't get a faulty board. ;o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>I've got a couple of WD1600jb drives that I purchased some time ago
>>>>>to use as audio drives for Paris, running under win98.
>>>>>I had no problems formatting them, but soon after commencing a job,
>>>>>all hell broke loose. Cross-linked files everywhere.
>>>>>I pulled the first and tried the second...same thing.
>>>>>Never had this problem with any 120gb drives.
>>>>>Is there something I am missing? Does 98 not like anything above
>>>>>120gb? I have since used one of the drives in my cubase box
>>>>>running XP, and there's no sign of any problems.
>>>>>I hope I don't have to stick to 120's for my remaining Paris
>>>>>years.
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>John, weren't you the one calling someone a troll recently?
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Thu, 28 July 2005 11:38   |
Stephen Stecyk
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et> wrote in message
>>>news:431c6cd5@linux...
>>>> Don't get me started on the French...........
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote in message news:431c5555@linux...
>>>>> You mean Paris "Texas"? I thought this was a rodeo group. Freedom
Fries
>>>> for
>>>>> everyone...
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:431c4ded@linux...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > She was in Greece cavorting around with Tara Reid on "Taradise" last
>>>>> night.
>>>>> > 8oP
>>>>> > rod
>>>>> > "Mike" <spamthis@alltel.net> wrote:
>>>>> > >I would like to discuss Paris - anybody?.... anybody?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>As you're saying Pete.
>Nearly a whole world too have sent messages about helping hands. As I've
>seen in Scandinavian news, about all American political enemies like Cuba,
>Iran etc. have showed up and wanna give their helping hands too. When
>natural catastrophes like these are showing up around the world, it showes
>really well that there's no difference at all in the soul between the people
>of the world.
>
>Erling
>
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:431e816a$1@linux...
>>
>> I felt I wanted and needed to post this now.Let me preface this
>> by saying I'm not taking into account Iraq or whatever else you
>> want to throw here;this is based on what I'm seeing in response
>> to the tradgedy.
>>
>> I felt a positive post might be good in all the heated
>> discussions going on now.Not to say these discussions aren't
>> needed and can't be productive.I just got a few good vibes
>> tonight and needed them after feeling so helpless,discouraged,
>> disappointed etc. for the last 8 days.
>>
>> I think we all can agree there was a breakdown in the response
>> to Katrina.Blame this breakdown where you must;federal,state,
>> local government or the fact this tragedy was too large and
>> widespread to be handled successfully by anyone at anytime.I know
>> what I feel,but that is beside the point.
>>
>> Out of all the things that have gone wrong(and there are many);I
>> think we can say the one thing that has gone right is the
>> response of the American people.I'm in St. Louis and we're
>> expecting 8,000 to 10,000 hurricane victims in the next few days.
>>
>> An airplane hanger at Lambert is set up for people with a
>> medical facility,pharmacy,clothes store with thousands of pairs
>> of shoes etc.A prison that has been closed for years was
>> renovated in a week for victims to live in temporarily.I was just
>> thinking of how it was located right in the middle of the worst
>> hit area in St. Louis in the '93 flood.When I called the
>> volunteer line they said they were getting 800 calls an hour.
>>
>> There are volunteers from all over the country in the gulf
>> coast now;rescuing people,providing medical services,providing
>> food,shelter,rescuing pets.I've seen churches sustaining
>> communities where FEMA and other organizations have yet to show
>> up.These churches being sustained by donations from everywhere;
>> some regular folks just showing up with truckloads from
>> states far away.All kinds of cross-country church network
>> donations;money,supplies,human resources,shelter,counseling.
>>
>> The multiple cities trying to take in the vast number of
>> victims;find them housing,food,other family members.Free hotel
>> rooms to stay in;people just being there with signs when they
>> arrive-welcome
>> friends and neighbors.Schools and colleges
>> taking in students on the spot no questions asked.Those schools
>> often adopting those families to care for.Strangers opening
>> their homes to other strangers;often making for tight living
>> conditions.Companies offering work to the thousands upon
>> thousands of victims left jobless.And of course all the monetary
>> donations.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong,I know there are problems and I don't see it
>> all through rose colored glasses.And it is a shame that something
>> like this has to bring us together.Hopefully from this tragedy
>> we can fix what is broken.Hopefully we can face,discuss and try
>> to heal some large problems that face this country.Right now
>> though I'm am going to enjoy the momentary lift in my spirit that
>> I'm getting from "we the people".Bless us all and hope this can
>> be the beginning of a different era for our country and ALL our
>> people.
>>
>> peace,
>> Pete
>
>Erling,
Yes,I thought about the world response after I posted too.So
many willing to donate including as you said US political
enemies.It shows deep down we really do care for each other.
Thanks for posting.
Pete
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>As you're saying Pete.
>Nearly a whole world too have sent messages about helping hands. As I've
>seen in Scandinavian news, about all American political enemies like Cuba,
>Iran etc. have showed up and wanna give their helping hands too. When
>natural catastrophes like these are showing up around the world, it showes
>really well that there's no difference at all in the soul between the people
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56358 is a reply to message #56357] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 13:06   |
EK Sound
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>of the world.
>
>Erling
>
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:431e816a$1@linux...
>>
>> I felt I wanted and needed to post this now.Let me preface this
>> by saying I'm not taking into account Iraq or whatever else you
>> want to throw here;this is based on what I'm seeing in response
>> to the tradgedy.
>>
>> I felt a positive post might be good in all the heated
>> discussions going on now.Not to say these discussions aren't
>> needed and can't be productive.I just got a few good vibes
>> tonight and needed them after feeling so helpless,discouraged,
>> disappointed etc. for the last 8 days.
>>
>> I think we all can agree there was a breakdown in the response
>> to Katrina.Blame this breakdown where you must;federal,state,
>> local government or the fact this tragedy was too large and
>> widespread to be handled successfully by anyone at anytime.I know
>> what I feel,but that is beside the point.
>>
>> Out of all the things that have gone wrong(and there are many);I
>> think we can say the one thing that has gone right is the
>> response of the American people.I'm in St. Louis and we're
>> expecting 8,000 to 10,000 hurricane victims in the next few days.
>>
>> An airplane hanger at Lambert is set up for people with a
>> medical facility,pharmacy,clothes store with thousands of pairs
>> of shoes etc.A prison that has been closed for years was
>> renovated in a week for victims to live in temporarily.I was just
>> thinking of how it was located right in the middle of the worst
>> hit area in St. Louis in the '93 flood.When I called the
>> volunteer line they said they were getting 800 calls an hour.
>>
>> There are volunteers from all over the country in the gulf
>> coast now;rescuing people,providing medical services,providing
>> food,shelter,rescuing pets.I've seen churches sustaining
>> communities where FEMA and other organizations have yet to show
>> up.These churches being sustained by donations from everywhere;
>> some regular folks just showing up with truckloads from
>> states far away.All kinds of cross-country church network
>> donations;money,supplies,human resources,shelter,counseling.
>>
>> The multiple cities trying to take in the vast number of
>> victims;find them housing,food,other family members.Free hotel
>> rooms to stay in;people just being there with signs when they
>> arrive-welcome
>> friends and neighbors.Schools and colleges
>> taking in students on the spot no questions asked.Those schools
>> often adopting those families to care for.Strangers opening
>> their homes to other strangers;often making for tight living
>> conditions.Companies offering work to the thousands upon
>> thousands of victims left jobless.And of course all the monetary
>> donations.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong,I know there are problems and I don't see it
>> all through rose colored glasses.And it is a shame that something
>> like this has to bring us together.Hopefully from this tragedy
>> we can fix what is broken.Hopefully we can face,discuss and try
>> to heal some large problems that face this country.Right now
>> though I'm am going to enjoy the momentary lift in my spirit that
>> I'm getting from "we the people".Bless us all and hope this can
>> be the beginning of a different era for our country and ALL our
>> people.
>>
>> peace,
>> Pete
>
>I don't think he's got nearly enough reference monitors
;o)
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:431ece32@linux...
> Is it for give away;-)
>
> erlilo
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> "DynaMic_Sound" <dynamic_sound@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:431ec48e@linux...
> > Who needs it..? =)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>Is it possibile working one or two card Paris System on Laptop?
ZmoraI don't think there is - anyone know if you can hook a magma chassis up to a
laptop?
-Carl
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:431f0f70$1@linux...
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> Is it possibile working one or two card Paris System on Laptop?
>
> ZmoraAnd, does anyone know about the stand-alone (cardless) version of 3.0? ???
Didn't someone mess around with that?
-Carl
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:431f0f70$1@linux...
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> Is it possibile working one or two card Paris System on Laptop?
>
> ZmoraYes, I've done it in the past. 4 eds cards and a laptop under win xp. I then realized
I didn't really need the portability and extra expense.
It works just fine though.
Cheers,
TC
Carl Amburn wrote:
> And, does anyone know about the stand-alone (cardless) version of 3.0? ???
> Didn't someone mess around with that?
>
> -Carl
>
> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:431f0f70$1@linux...
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>>Is it possibile working one or two card Paris System on Laptop?
>>
>> Zmora
>
>
>Referring to the cardless version, I don't believe that ever materialized beyond ID demoing it at a trade show years ago. It was never available to the public.
Cheers,
TC
TC wrote:
> Yes, I've done it in the past. 4 eds cards and a laptop under win xp. I
> then realized
> I didn't really need the portability and extra expense.
>
> It works just fine though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
>
> Carl Amburn wrote:
>
>> And, does anyone know about the stand-alone (cardless) version of
>> 3.0? ???
>> Didn't someone mess around with that?
>>
>> -Carl
>>
>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:431f0f70$1@linux...
>>
>>> Is it possibile working one or two card Paris System on Laptop?
>>>
>>> Zmora
>>
>>
>>
>>The trick is to use the right brand of Duct tape to attach the EDS
cards to the laptop... ;-)
David.
TC wrote:
> Yes, I've done it in the past. 4 eds cards and a laptop under win xp. I
> then realized
> I didn't really need the portability and extra expense.
>
> It works just fine though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
>
> Carl Amburn wrote:<
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56363 is a reply to message #56358] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 15:46   |
Stephen Stecyk
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hat made the change
>is a sense of ownership.
>
>Young man came in my office one day to apologize for being late.
>Said he was in jail. Turns out he was in McDonalds late at night,
>just "eating while black" and a couple of Fontana cops rousted him.
>When he simply asked them why they were hassling him, he ended
>up in jail with a summons. He was so mad he was nearly shaking.
>He felt beaten, and like a victim of a mssive power structure that
>hated him for his skin color. He was set to pay the fine, but the
>hate from this expreience was palpable in him. I said "to hell with
>that, don't pay a damn thing". You are an AMERICAN, you own
>this country as much as anyone else. Don't react to this like those
>racist cops expect you to. You go in dressed well, and plead
>"not guilty" in a loud and clear voice and explain what happened
>as if you expect to be exonerated. Be righteous, be strong.
>
>The judge threw out the case and chewed out the cops.
>
>Today he helps run a restaurant. Has a nicer car than I do.
>
>The reason I reacted so strongly to Kanye West's nonsense, and
>Jason repeating it here, is that it goes to the heart of this issue.
>
>White racists look at the looting in NO and go "how come them
>people is all black?" As if their skin was what made them criminals.
>And Kanye and others cannot stand the apparent loss of respect
>that represents, so they must push the blame somewhere else, so
>they tell lies about the president, while not doing a DAMN THING
>to help anyone in NO.
>
>These people. Kanye and the racists, are two side of the same
>person. Both full of sh*t. If there was ONE black hero, (and there
>were hundreds) then the evil in NO was not Bush or the white power
>structure, it was the evil in the criminal's own shriveled little
>hearts. But to admit this, is to give an inch to the racists, so we
>tell lies.
>
>Here's the truth. The failure in NO was entirely due to the corrupt
>mayor and his 255 school buses and the incompetent sobbing
>governor. Could FEMA have reacted faster? Yes, but not by much
>and Bush is only to blame if he does not fix FEMA.
>
>Jason and Kanye, and the whole lousy bunch of liars here are so
>short on facts that they must tell bigger and bigger lies and get
>angrier and angrier to cover up their dishonesty. It won't work.
>
>BTW, just for the record. I believe in reparations. Every black
>american would get free college or trade school with living and
>food paid for. Just in case you think I am a hard rightie...
>No money though. No handouts.
>
>And you if think I am pissed, read this guy:
>
>http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000129.html
>
>
>Take care of yourself.
>
>DCCheck out the mouse pad and keybrd off the arms of the chair, pretty chnazey
what......!!!
"DynaMic_Sound" <dynamic_sound@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:431ec48e@linux...
> Who needs it..? =)
>
>
>
>"JT" <jt@samsung.com> wrote:
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>DC,
>
>Although I often don't agree with you, thanks for posting that link. A
very
>good read.
You're welcome.Coffee through nose! Coffee through nose!
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:431f2b36@linux...
> The trick is to use the right brand of Duct tape to attach the EDS cards
> to the laptop... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> TC wrote:
>> Yes, I've done it in the past. 4 eds cards and a laptop under win xp. I
>> then realized
>> I didn't really need the portability and extra expense.
>>
>> It works just fine though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> TC
>>
>>
>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>
>>> And, does anyone know about the stand-alone (cardless) version of 3.0?
>>> ???
>>> Didn't someone mess around with that?
>>>
>>> -Carl
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:431f0f70$1@linux...
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>>>> Is it possibile working one or two card Paris System on Laptop?
>>>>
>>>> Zmora
>>>
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What kind?
Tom
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:431f5578@linux...
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> David.
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> TC wrote:
>> Yes, I've done it in the past. 4 eds cards and a laptop under win =
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>> then realized
>> I didn't really need the portability and extra expense.
>>
>> It works just fine though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> TC
>>
>>
>> Carl Amburn wrote:
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>>> Didn't someone mess around with that?
>>>
>>> -Carl
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56370 is a reply to message #56353] |
Thu, 28 July 2005 21:12   |
Aaron Allen
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>>>
>>>> Is it possibile working one or two card Paris System on Laptop?
>>>>
>>>> Zmora
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here here, yes indeed it was good read.
MEB
"JT" <jt@samsung.com> wrote:
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>DC,
>
>Although I often don't agree with you, thanks for posting that link. A
very
>good read.
>
>jt
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>"DC" <dc@spamthecan.com> wrote:
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>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The big guys call him
>>>up to the office and decide to make him a superviser.
>>>Now everyone on the outside thinks,see blacks are
>>>getting places. But not so fast! They make him believe
>>>that if he continues to work hard he will become one
>>>of them,but he will never become one of them and
>>>at
>>>some point he will realize that he has been use to do the
>>>dirty work for them.
>>
>>Nappy,
>>
>>I remember being a college kid and having to rent small houses
>>and apartments. The landlord can throw your butt out at any
>>time for any reason. One of them got tossed out of his in-laws
>>house for beating his wife and ordered me out on one day notice! I
>>had just moved in 3 days earlier. I said only with a complete refund
>>of every nickel. He refused, and told me he would sue me for
>>damaging the house (which I did not do) if I did not get out that
>>night. I did not, and ended up defending myself in court (lost)
>>and on appeal (settled for a few hundred). Fun huh?
>>
>>Why am I telling you this? Because an experience like that will
>>make a flaming Bolshevik out of anyone. An experience like
>>what you are describing will result in the way you feel. It's only
>>reasonable that this is so.
>>
>>Two problems though.
>>
>>1. Your model does not account for the black leaders who not only
>>do great work, but will bend for no one. Rice and Powell are prime
>>examples. I do not believe that *anyone* pulls their strings.
>>And frankly, although we know there is still racism out there,
>>the hate shown towards conservative black leaders by liberals of
>>all colors, is often much, much worse than any racism they have
>>experienced. It starts with the idea that they are just puppets.
>>
>>And how will your model hold up if Rice becomes president?
>>Think she will be one of the bosses then? But she will STILL be
>>slandered by the left for not being one of them, won't she?
>>
>>This is not what King had in mind is it?
>>
>>
>>2. The fundamental difference between the left and the right on
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56379 is a reply to message #56363] |
Fri, 29 July 2005 07:53   |
EK Sound
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sorts of drivers and crap onto your
computer. I experienced this after buying Babyface "grown and sexy". The
main culprit for my stuttering Fireface was a driver named sbcphid.sys. I
found this out by finding the following link.
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/
This driver is designed to prevent unauthorized copying of audio CDs using
personal computers. MediaMax interferes with audio copying by installing a
device driver the first time software from the CD is executed. It's
supposed to make the ripped tracks stutter thus leaving them unusable. On
my system it also made my Fireface driver crazy. I couldn't even play my
older cd's which I bought without skips and stutters. To make a long story
short I had to get a link from the SunnComm Technologies that uninstalled
the software and then (They didn't tell me this) delete the sbcphid.sys
driver from my device manager which the uninstall left behind. This file is
hidden so you have to select the view hidden devices option in the device
manager window. MediaMax and similar copy-prevention systems are
irreparably flawed and believe record companies should find more
customer-friendly alternatives for reducing infringement. I hope this helps
anyone else having problems similar to mine.<
Just a heads up guys.I've been mixing a project here that was recorded for a new client. He just
means it to be a demo and so in the interest of getting this done quickly,
we didn't isolate the singer. He's got a very dull and honky midrange that
is bleeding all over the tracks (*all* of them). Normally, on something like
this I would do a little cutting at 400Hz to carve out the cardboard, then
a tiny boost at 3kHz for a little clarity while softening up the 5kHz range
with a little 2.5 octave cut bringing it up to a tiny peak at 7kHz tjust to
get some definition. If I solo the track, this works fine and it smooth out
the voice....on the solo track.
Problem is, it;'s all over the dobro, mandolin and doublebass and guitar.
Carving his voice out of all these instruments basically kills the mix.
There are also phasing issues because the instrument mics are, in every
case, at least 10 ft. and in the case of the dobro, 20' away from the
singer. It's not really a problem with instruments being that far separated
from each other, but with a singer, it's killin me.
WTF was I thinking letting them do this? I should have shot the producer,
stolen his money and paid myself for another day of time for overdubs.
I was hoping to do a better mix with some extreme cuts and marginal boosts
to certain instruments but this (especially boosting the dobro freqs so that
they cut through the mix) really aggravates the worst frequencies in the
vocal bleed.
I'll get an acceptable mix out of this using very slight cuts and panning,
but it's never going to sparkle and I'm not going to *wow* anyone with it.
That's a shame. the instruments are really well played and I'd just love to
create a *radio ready* situation for them ;o)
Well......it was their decision to do it this way in the interest of time. I
just hate that sometimes when all of a sudden I get into a demo session and
the players just absolutely *KILL* they are so good. This is one of those
situations.
I'm sure I'll be able to polish it up with a bit of EQ and gentle
compression on the mix bus but the phasing of the vocal is still going to be
there to a small degree.
;oPHave you tried to que the vocal up against, one track at a time, let's say..
dobro track.. out of phase until it cancels the most? Then render the
dobro.. lather, rinse, repeat for the worst tracks. Too much of this could
cause all kinds of phase nightmares, but it might enable you to clean off
enough funk to deal with the mix tones.
AA
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> I've been mixing a project here that was recorded for a new client. He
> just
> means it to be a demo and so in the interest of getting this done quickly,
> we didn't isolate the singer. He's got a very dull and honky midrange that
> is bleeding all over the tracks (*all* of them). Normally, on something
> like
> this I would do a little cutting at 400Hz to carve out the cardboard,
> then
> a tiny boost at 3kHz for a little clarity while softening up the 5kHz
> range
> with a little 2.5 octave cut bringing it up to a tiny peak at 7kHz tjust
> to
> get some definition. If I solo the track, this works fine and it smooth
> out
> the voice....on the solo track.
>
> Problem is, it;'s all over the dobro, mandolin and doublebass and guitar.
> Carving his voice out of all these instruments basically kills the mix.
>
> There are also phasing issues because the instrument mics are, in every
> case, at least 10 ft. and in the case of the dobro, 20' away from the
> singer. It's not really a problem with instruments being that far
> separated
> from each other, but with a singer, it's killin me.
>
> WTF was I thinking letting them do this? I should have shot the producer,
> stolen his money and paid myself for another day of time for overdubs.
>
> I was hoping to do a better mix with some extreme cuts and marginal boosts
> to certain instruments but this (especially boosting the dobro freqs so
> that
> they cut through the mix) really aggravates the worst frequencies in the
> vocal bleed.
>
> I'll get an acceptable mix out of this using very slight cuts and panning,
> but it's never going to sparkle and I'm not going to *wow* anyone with it.
> That's a shame. the instruments are really well played and I'd just love
> to
> create a *radio ready* situation for them ;o)
>
> Well......it was their decision to do it this way in the interest of time.
> I
> just hate that sometimes when all of a sudden I get into a demo session
> and
> the players just absolutely *KILL* they are so good. This is one of those
> situations.
>
> I'm sure I'll be able to polish it up with a bit of EQ and gentle
> compression on the mix bus but the phasing of the vocal is still going to
> be
> there to a small degree.
>
> ;oP
>
>
>Right after I posted this I found the *major* culprit. The vocal frequencies
in the doublebass were absolutely the problem. Luckily, there's lots of room
for surgery in the upper midrange of a doublebass, especially in the contest
of a mix. I did some major carving. Cleaned it right up. I'm back to doing
my other little tweaks that I wanted to do (in a bit more conservative
manner) and things are holding together.
Thanks for your thoughts. I must have been readin'yo'mind.
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:431fb97a$1@linux...
> Have you tried to que the vocal up against, one track at a time, let's
say..
> dobro track.. out of phase until it cancels the most? Then render the
> dobro.. lather, rinse, repeat for the worst tracks. Too much of this could
> cause all kinds of phase nightmares, but it might enable you to clean off
> enough funk to deal with the mix tones.
>
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:431fb6b1$1@linux...
> > I've been mixing a project here that was recorded for a new client. He
> > just
> > means it to be a demo and so in the interest of getting this done
quickly,
> > we didn't isolate the singer. He's got a very dull and honky midrange
that
> > is bleeding all over the tracks (*all* of them). Normally, on something
> > like
> > this I would do a little cutting at 400Hz to carve out the cardboard,
> > then
> > a tiny boost at 3kHz for a little clarity while softening up the 5kHz
> > range
> > with a little 2.5 octave cut bringing it up to a tiny peak at 7kHz tjust
> > to
> > get some definition. If I solo the track, this works fine and it smooth
> > out
> > the voice....on the solo track.
> >
> > Problem is, it;'s all over the dobro, mandolin and doublebass and
guitar.
> > Carving his voice out of all these instruments basically kills the mix.
> >
> > There are also phasing issues because the instrument mics are, in every
> > case, at least 10 ft. and in the case of the dobro, 20' away from the
> > singer. It's not really a problem with instruments being that far
> > separated
> > from each other, but with a singer, it's killin me.
> >
> > WTF was I thinking letting them do this? I should have shot the
producer,
> > stolen his money and paid myself for another day of time for overdubs.
> >
> > I was hoping to do a better mix with some extreme cuts and marginal
boosts
> > to certain instruments but this (especially boosting the dobro freqs so
> > that
> > they cut through the mix) really aggravates the worst frequencies in the
> > vocal bleed.
> >
> > I'll get an acceptable mix out of this using very slight cuts and
panning,
> > but it's never going to sparkle and I'm not going to *wow* anyone with
it.
> > That's a shame. the instruments are really well played and I'd just love
> > to
> > create a *radio ready* situation for them ;o)
> >
> > Well......it was their decision to do it this way in the interest of
time.
> > I
> > just hate that sometimes when all of a sudden I get into a demo session
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| Re: Magma-I must be doing something right these days [message #56396 is a reply to message #56382] |
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Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883 Registered: September 2005
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/>
> >> readin'yo'mind.
> >>
> >> ;o)
> >>
> >> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >> news:431fb97a$1@linux...
> >>
> >>> Have you tried to que the vocal up against, one track
> >>> at a time, let's
> >>
> >> say..
> >>
> >>> dobro track.. out of phase until it cancels the most?
> >>> Then render the dobro.. lather, rinse, repeat for the
> >>> worst tracks. Too much of this
> >
> > could
> >
> >>> cause all kinds of phase nightmares, but it might
> >>> enable you to clean
> >
> > off
> >
> >>> enough funk to deal with the mix tones.
> >>>
> >>> AA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in
> >>> message news:431fb6b1$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>>> I've been mixing a project here that was recorded
> >>>> for a new client. He just means it to be a demo and
> >>>> so in the interest of getting this done
> >>
> >> quickly,
> >>
> >>>> we didn't isolate the singer. He's got a very dull
> >>>> and honky midrange
> >>
> >> that
> >>
> >>>> is bleeding all over the tracks (*all* of them).
> >>>> Normally, on
> >
> > something
> >
> >>>> like this I would do a little cutting at 400Hz to
> >>>> carve out the cardboard, then a tiny boost at 3kHz
> >>>> for a little clarity while softening up the 5kHz
> >>>> range with a little 2.5 octave cut bringing it up
> >>>> to a tiny peak at 7kHz
> >
> > tjust
> >
> >>>> to get some definition. If I solo the track, this
> >>>> works fine and it
> >
> > smooth
> >
> >>>> out the voice....on the solo track.
> >>>>
> >>>> Problem is, it;'s all over the dobro, mandolin and
> >>>> doublebass and
> >>
> >> guitar.
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