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| I've got that "New Computer" feeling. :o) [message #55981] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 16:35  |
Kim
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;DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>could trigger </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>because of a tom strike but the right would not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wouldn't it be easier to run a stereo =
EDS comp in=20
aux 1,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>send your drum mix to it how you like =
using aux=20
sends and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>route the output </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>of=20
aux 1 via external to two channels by</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>patching aux 1 to spdif in and out and =
then to two=20
channels? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Print them to disk and </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>compensate </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for latency that=20
there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1ms does it for me at that point =
assuming no look=20
ahead. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don't forget the spdif cable =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>connected looping from in to out </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on the Mec.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seems like the easiest way =
using EDS=20
effects. Of course you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can also throw in any other VST effects =
once the=20
tracks have been</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>printed. As long as your sure of =
the drum mix=20
you can do this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as your last step. Kinda =
backwards but we use=20
Paris don't we?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gyro Gearloose</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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| Re: I've got that "New Computer" feeling. :o) [message #55983 is a reply to message #55981] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 16:40  |
Deej [1]
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drumtracks,=20
here I have one kick, two snares<BR>(top/bottom) two overheads (L and =
R) one=20
ride and three toms<BR>.<BR>4. Now I put all auxes on pre post and I =
put all=20
faders down to zero.<BR><BR>5. I put all drumtracks in the stereo =
field i.e=20
Overheads L I open only aux1<BR>and close aux2, the opposite for =
overhead R,=20
the volume now is on auxe's<BR>knob.<BR>For kick I have both aux1 and =
aux 2=20
engaged with same volume for both<BR>etc....<BR><BR>6 I can leave the =
return=20
of the drumtracks on auxe's returns but I use<BR>instead wire out #0 =
for aux 1=20
and wire out #1 for aux 2<BR><BR>7. Then I go to two free audio tracks =
and put=20
there wire in #0 and #1<BR>accordingly.<BR><BR>8. I pan them hardwired =
left=20
and right. I can take it further with eq or<BR>whatever from=20
there....<BR><BR>So I have a compressed drummix stereo with EDS =
compressor=20
using two<BR>instances of EDS comp.<BR><BR>9. You can write down the=20
compressed stereo track and bring it in along with<BR>unprocessed =
drumtracks=20
,slide it until it sounds right nad voila.<BR><BR>I really like the =
eds=20
compressor on gentle crush setting , I also favour=20
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the<BR>Opto.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE ></BODY></HTM=
L>
------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C5AB10.C45972B0--I am sure there are some of you that have tried or still use the following
method.
How to group stereo drumtracks in Paris put them a stereo compressor just
using one stereo instance of EDS compressor.
1.I put on aux1 wire out #0
2. I do the same on aux2 putting wire out #1
3.I open aux1 and aux 2 on all drumtracks, here I have one kick, two snares
(top/bottom) two overheads (L and R) one ride and three toms
..
4. Now I put all auxes on pre post and I put all faders down to zero.
5. I put all drumtracks in the stereo field i.e Overheads L I open only aux1
and close aux2, the opposite for overhead R, the volume now is on auxe's
knob.
For kick I have both aux1 and aux 2 engaged with same volume for both
etc....
6 I can leave the return of the drumtracks on auxe's returns but I use
instead wire out #0 for aux 1 and wire out #1 for aux 2
7. Then I go to two free audio tracks and put there wire in #0 and #1
accordingly.
8. I pan them hardwired left and right. I can take it further with eq or
whatever from there....
9. I now put a stereo instance EDS compressor compressor on the leftmost
track with the following settings:
Gentle Crash algorithm with 1:75 setting -81.4 threshold and 17.5 db output.
So I have a compressed drummix stereo with EDS compressor using one stereo
instance of EDS comp.
9. You can write down the compressed stereo track and bring it in along with
unprocessed drumtracks ,slide it until it sounds right nad voila.
I really like the eds compressor on gentle crush setting , I also favour the
Opto.
Cheers,
DimitriosThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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| Re: I've got that "New Computer" feeling. :o) [message #56006 is a reply to message #55981] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 22:50 |
Chris Ludwig
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>> >the 236 was reffering to those two compressors too, sorry...
>> >The actual latency is 4 samples.
>> >Yes only 4 samples when you send via aux to a eds compressor with 0
>> >lookahead.
>> >So to compensate you have to nudge for 1ms (80 samples) , thus voxengo
>> >sample delay should be 76 samples...
>> >I hope now I got this right.
>> >Sorry again for beeing so quick with my posts without double checking
>first.
>> >Dimitrios
>> >"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>news:4313339c$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> May also be cool to put some bass guitar in there.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Nice job on getting those numbers!
>> >> >Seems like the same idea I was saying, you are just using the first
>set
>> >> as
>> >> >the aux..and the copied set as the play back? AM I missing something
>> >though?
>> >> >Could mean the need for another EDS card,.
>> >> >
>> >> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >> >>Ok,
>> >> >>Here is the other way of doing it .
>> >> >>You have only to move the original auxed drumtracks.
>> >> >>First you copy the drumtracks to adjastend tracks.
>> >> >>Then you aux the non copied with Stereo compressor as I detaled
>before.
>> >> >>Then you put faders at minimum -90 position for those drumtracks.
>> >> >>They now serve only for aux feeding.
>> >> >>Now you nudge them by 5ms to the left and put sampledelay on Native
>> slot
>> >> >and
>> >> >>put a 4 sample latency there (remember the aux procedure needs 236
>> >samples
>> >> >,
>> >> >>5ms=240-4=236)
>> >> >>Now all are sample accurate !
>> >> >>Regards,
>> >> >>Dimitrios
>> >> >>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>> >news:43131153$1@linux...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> How could we solve the flanging?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> COuld we say, copy all the drum tracks to an adjacent 7 group of
>> >tracks,
>> >> >>> slide em ahead, than sample slide back (Like UAD1 Situation) them
>> >before
>> >> >>> sending em to the AUX1? Then tuck em under the original drumtracks?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> would sample slide be before the Aux send?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >> >>> >To group your drumtracks and send them thru stereo compression
>,only
>> >> >one
>> >> >>> EDS
>> >> >>> >stereo instance I am sure most of you are already using this but
>> >maybe
>> >> >>still
>> >> >>> >some never tried...
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >1.You put stereo compressor EDS on AUX1.
>> >> >>> >2.You put on every drumtrack you wanna compress the aux1 in
>prefader
>> >> >>status
>> >> >>> >and control with auxe's panpot level the place you wanna put it
in
>> >the
>> >> >>> >stereo field.
>> >> >>> >3.You push the fader all the way down -90 as to not have flanging
>> on
>> >> >your
>> >> >>> >drumsounds.
>> >> >>> >4. You control indivindual drumlevels from Aux1 level knob and
>> >pannong
>> >> >>from
>> >> >>> >panpot knob.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >5. For you comressor outpout level you have that on Auxe's 1
>return
>> >> knob
>> >> >>> >with panpot again possibilities.
>> >> >>> >6. For EQ you put after the stereo compressor in aux1 the FreakQ
>> >which
>> >> >is
>> >> >>> >also stereo to have control over frequencies.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >7. That makes me happy as opposed to using UAD1
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >Regards,
>> >> >>> >Dimitrios
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >
>>
>
>You started with the insults, Don. It is Don, right? I'm sorry if I'm
mistaken....
I vote we refrain from from any further rabid little partisan jabs.
You used a jokey, silly post by one of the best-natured members of this
forum to deride a very large group of humans who do not share your belief
system. That is inappropriate behavior, at best, given the very specific
nature of this forum, and especially given the general good nature of those
who post here.
Jimmy
"DC" <dc@sayitaintso.org> wrote in message news:4313485e$1@linux...
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| Re: I've got that "New Computer" feeling. :o) [message #56007 is a reply to message #56006] |
Sun, 17 July 2005 23:43 |
Kim
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lank">garyf_94103@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Darwin's theory is showing no signs of becoming less authoritative,
except
> >in the minds of the rabidly superstious folks who comprise the American
> Taliban.
>
>
> Simply not the case my friend.
>
> Insults will not make the challenge to Darwin go away.
>
> DC
>>
>Insults will not make the challenge to Darwin go away.
>
>DC
I'm not aware of any real scientific challenge. People are entitled to their
faith, but the Intelligent Design folks are just promoting Creationism under
another name. There was a very good column in yesterday's NY Times pointing
out that the folks promoting this admit themselves that they have put forward
no scientific case. If people believe in this, fine, but it should be taught
at home or at their churches.thank you very much...Heh.. I see what you're saying, but I should've been more specific. I'm not
doing much on the client frontier these days, this is mainly my own data.
Problem is I've collected all this info and it would take stacks and stacks
and months to sift it all out to DVD+-R. Yikes, not looking forward to that!
I need to find a good multidrive comparator program that will look at
network drives as well and tell me where exact duplicates lie, because I'm
just about sure that will be the case for at least 30% of my stuff.
AA
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fnk6h1hj1hvb66jdtiqoire5i7sf0euvi2@4ax.com...
> have the talent bring in a drive for their stuff.
>
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:24:16 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
> <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
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>>Not in my Paris box alone, but I'd be willing to bet I have at least that
>>amongst my PC's. Worst part is how do you back up that much info?
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Mike R." <nope@nope> wrote in message news:4313180f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> How about .5 terrabyte? Some in, some out of the box.
>>> I remember when a producer friend of mine got one of the early Macs, had
>>> a whopping megabyte on the HD. We both thought, "man, you'd never fill
>>> that
>>> up." When will the madness stop!!;-)
>>> MR
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've just bought these 2 x 250Gig drives. Plus
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