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| SCSI probs [message #76141] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 12:29  |
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s the difference between them, and that usually happens
due
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>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>form of processing difference between the files,
>>>>>>>>such as EQ, compression, frequency dependant gain changes, etc. That
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>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>I believe you are thinking through, but when
>>>>>>>>talking about straight summing with no gain change (or known equal
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>>>>>>>>gain
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>>>>>>>>changes), we are only looking at linear, one for one
>>>>>>>>comparisons between the two files' frequency representations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The tests I did were completely blank down to -200 dB (far below
>>> the
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>>>>>>>>>>> last
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>>>>>>>>>>> bit). It's safe to say there is no difference, even in
>>>>>>>>>>> quantization noise, which by technical rights, is considered
below
>>>>> the
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>>>>>>>>>>> level
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>>>>>>>>>>> of "cancellation" in such tests.
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| Re: SCSI probs [message #76143 is a reply to message #76141] |
Sat, 18 November 2006 13:54  |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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>Hey all,
This should be taken with some grains of salt, which if you remember are
quite a bit larger than the ticks on a 100 mm fader using a 14 bit MIDI stream,
but so far I'm really knocked out by the Creamware card. Keep in mind that
it's been shown here that I'm deaf, not a 'pro,' and can't hear the difference
between different brands of USB flash drives. I use a PNY when some people
claim the SanDisks are punchier. The big problem I had with the CW gear before
was stability, and it's only been a day but so far absolutely rock solid.
'Cause I'm deaf I only use 44.1 so I don't have clocking issues.
I remembered the synths as being spectacular and they are much better than
I remember. Frankly I don't think I've heard digital synthesis done better,
with the possible exception of the OASYS PCI card, but I think I'd still
give the CW gear the edge. Keep in mind I've owned a fair amount of Waldorf,
Access, Nord, and Clavia gear over the years. There's no reason why it should
sound better than native, DSP code is DSP code, and I wonder if maybe it's
precisely because the gear is a little old that it sounds so good. Expectations
were a little lower back then. In any case, they clearly went for sonic quality
over polyphony with the synths. The Prophet is absolutely killer, the wavetable
synths spit out psycho bells that are to die for, the minimoog is ripping.
The B3 is very nice as well, and it can do thin and cheesey as well as it
does big and crushing which I like because I tend to use organ sounds as
minor decoration.
The software has also gotten easier to use. I'd say it would make it a lot
easier if someone had a bit of experience with modular synths, but I managed
to get everything running and making noises without reading the manual. I'll
have to get to that soon. I think it will be a minor hassle to get used to
running the Scope environment while using Live/SX and I'm not sure how I'm
going to bounce tracks to audio when I start hitting the wall on the DSP
on the Scope board. Probably just run one of the ADAT outputs to one of the
ADAT inputs. Having the big display and being able to use keyboard shortcuts
to switch virtual desktops will help a good bit.
Which also brings up the one complaint I have about the CW card, the DSPs
do get chewed up pretty quickly and they don't seem too smart. That is, if
I open up a Prophet the DSP load goes up even when
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| Re: SCSI probs [message #76172 is a reply to message #76161] |
Sun, 19 November 2006 14:22 |
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Messages: 11
Registered: November 2006
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hs all around, of course the coolest,
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>>>>widest and biggest patches
>>>>will make the biggest impression - so in come the EQs, limiters, comps,
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>>>>reverbs, chorus, etc. The best
>>>>way to find out if a synth is really good is to bypass all effects and
>see
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>>>>what happens. Most are pretty
>>>>good these days, but about half the time, there are presets that fall
>>>>completely flat in fx bypass.
>>>>
>>>>DAWs aren't designed to put a sonic fingerprint on a sound the way synths
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>>>>are - they are designed
>>>>to *not* add anything - to pass through what we create as users, with
>no
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>>>>alteration (or as little as possible)
>>>>beyond what we add with intentional processing (EQ, comps, etc).
>>>>Developers
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>>>>would find no pride
>>>>in hearing that their DAW sounds anything differ
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| Re: SCSI probs [message #76260 is a reply to message #76252] |
Tue, 21 November 2006 11:02 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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matter what mic you use you're not going to have very much
but overtones up there for a snare, IMO. Brass ones usually
have a bit more "body tone" in a wider (to include "higher")
register, but it's still not way up there where you're talking
about; so without hearing specific cuts that you're referring
to, I'd have to say yeah, it's most likely just a matter of EQ.
But I have a couple other questions:
a.) You mention the mic you usually use, but what preamp do you
usually use for Snare? I wonder if you're hearing something
like that API "crack" on these cuts (or maybe similar fast
preamps that may have been used)? If you're using something
slower/softer, it ain't gonna happen - at least not exactly
like what you're looking for, I don't believe.
b.) Are you sure you're hearing the direct snare hit itself, or
are you hearing maybe some room in the overheads or possibly
some reverb that the higher freqs are coming from? Try
isolating the first 1/4 to third of a second of the snare
hit & see if your RTA still kisses those same frequencies.
Then isolate the next half-second or so, then the next... IOW,
see where those frequencies start coming into play on the
timeline & that'll tell you a lot.
Considering that there's a good chance that a lot of the snares
you're talking about were
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