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| Re: TAXI - Independant A&R - Anybody have any comments? [message #85386 is a reply to message #85385] |
Sat, 26 May 2007 16:12   |
JeffH
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>I'll say it... "YES".
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:467f4bac$1@linux...
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> Aaron, are you saying that todays immigrants are not aading any value at
> all
> ??
>
> Heck, most americans are not adding any value to days.. Truthe be told,
> most
> don;pt even pay taxes ..
>
> And, if they (immigrants) purchase good and services, are tehy not paying
> taxes??
>
> Language: The Ellis Island crew did'nt speak the laguage.. It took them
> awhile.
> Oh yeah, they added Ganges, an the Mafia,organized crime.. Good citizens
> from Italy..right..
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>No, sadly they probably meant if you come here learn the language, give
> the
>>same share of taxation we all have to and add something positive to the
>
>>society and you've missed the point.
>>Seriously, I care not who comes from where as long as they offer something
>
>>to make the country greater for their families, themselves and those
>>already
>
>>here. When I have freinds that pull their kids out of certain schools
>>because they received honors by _default_ of actually speaking English,
>
>>Houston we gotta big fat problem. you guys may not be geographically in
> a
>>place to have this happening in your town, but it's coming soon to ya at
>
>>this rate if we don't get a handle on it.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Lamont" <jjd@aol.com> wrote in message news:467ee788$1@linux...
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>>> That's right. They did not mean Africans, asians or even the natives of
>
>>> this
>>> land..Sad really sad..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>Hi jeff,
>>>>Sadly I think they only wanted it to read..
>>>>
>>>>"Give me your European tired, your European poor,
>>>>Your European huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
>>>>The wretched refuse of your teeming European shore...."
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jeff Hoover wrote:
>>>>> Bill L wrote:
>>>>>> Actually I think we ought to invite any who want citizenship and can
>>>
>>>>>> speak some English to take an IQ and an aptitude test. Any with an
> IQ
>>>
>>>>>> over 120 and a good aptitude score, if they have a clean legal record
>>>
>>>>>> and a record of steady employment, should be offered citizenship. The
>>>
>>>>>> rest should be refused citizenship and should be sent back. We can
>>>>>> use more able, intelligent people. Who says we should not pick the
>>>>>> top applicants just like a company does. That's how we can make our
>>>
>>>>>> country stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Give me your tired, your poor,
>>>>> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
>>>>> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore...."
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah, that was so 20th century...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>ADK
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <
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| Re: TAXI - Independant A&R - Anybody have any comments? [message #85388 is a reply to message #85386] |
Sat, 26 May 2007 17:33 |
Kim
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Council concluded that immigrants will pay on
average $80,000 per capita more in taxes than they will use in
government services during their lifetimes. The Social Security
Administration, for example, estimates that workers without valid social
security numbers contribute $7 billion in Social Security tax revenues
and roughly $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes annually, yet elderly
immigrants rarely qualify for Medicare or long-term care services
provided through Medicaid."
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/reality_check _immigration.html
Again, I don't know if these figures are solid, but they paint a
different picture.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKruz.com
Jamie K wrote:
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>
>> /An illegal alien can't have any of the quoted status above.
>> Therefore, they don't pay wage taxes unless they have an employer just
>> begging for it that reports/pays on them. Not likely, but not
>> impossible I suppose. /
>
> According to one of the sites you linked (which largely agrees with you)
>
> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html
>
> illegal aliens pay an average of $4,200 in federal taxes, for a total of
> about 16 billion per year.
>
> So despite the status problem you mention, many illegal aliens DO seem
> to be paying federal taxes, and not an insignificant amount.
>
> That site goes on to claim that illegal aliens are still causing an
> average net drain of $2,700 per household. However this is interesting:
> they claim that if illegal aliens were made legal, they would have an
> average net drain of almost $7,700 per household, almost triple.
>
> I don't know if those figures are solid, but I believe illegal aliens
> ARE contributing to the federal tax system. It would be interesting to
> know if those who have been here for a while and have become somewhat
> established contribute more on a yearly basis than those who have just
> arrived.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>>help..
>
>Help must be defined as opportunity, not handouts. The welfare state
>has helped cause the current crisis in the black family by paying more
>money for unwed children, and many other abuses.
>
>Black americans, when given opportunity do very well. You don't need
>the white liberal democrat patronage system, that is for damn sure, but
>that is what you are offered by those who make you promises of results
>rather than promises of opportunity.
>
>>Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>>My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are what
>>you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>>type-smile) and make a really good living..
>
>So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?
I dunno, Don, sounds to me like LaMont did the work, maybe America should
be thanking him.
TCB"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>I dunno, Don, sounds to me like LaMont did the work, maybe America should
>be thanking him.
It thanks him every two weeks via either a check or direct deposit, whereupon
he hires someone or buys software to make sure he gets all the tax deductions
he is entitled to.
Damn, sounds just like me!
Thanks America!
DCDC, these days, unfortunately, it becoming even harder to find a rich person
or company willing pay good wages to those who have earned their rank..
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>DC, it's a know fact that the Top 3percent earners pay little to any taxes
>>awith Dual citizenships in other countries to avoid paying taxes.. That's
>>knowing how to play the game legally.
>
>In reality, more than 60% of ALL taxes are paid by the top 10% of
>wage earners.
>
>Are there tax cheats? Yes, in every bracket. But going after the very
>
>people who start companies and create jobs is socialist foolishness.
>
>When is the last time you were hired (and paid a good wage) by a
>poor person?
>
>
>DC
>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and hiring
practices?
You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a great
deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them for
standing up for us..
Also, you use terms like Libral all you want, but librals helped people..
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
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| Re: TAXI - Independant A&R - Anybody have any comments? [message #85389 is a reply to message #85388] |
Sat, 26 May 2007 17:33 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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uot;LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>>help..
>
>Help must be defined as opportunity, not handouts. The welfare state
>has helped cause the current crisis in the black family by paying more
>money for unwed children, and many other abuses.
>
>Black americans, when given opportunity do very well. You don't need
>the white liberal democrat patronage system, that is for damn sure, but
>that is what you are offered by those who make you promises of results
>rather than promises of opportunity.
>
>>Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>>My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are what
>>you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>>type-smile) and make a really good living..
>
>So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?
>
>
>>I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for Blacks
>>since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>>manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>>for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>>is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
>Jr
>>if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people really
>>do ned a helping hand.
>
>King would kick these frauds in the ass and send them on their way.
>That's the part you hope no one notices.
>
>King has become a part of the culture, and his views have become
>mainstream. The current "leaders" have to invent controversy and
>race-hustle every situation they can to continue their careers and lavish
>lifestyles.
>
>
>>Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in
a
>>White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the local
>>Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
>
>I've seen this. Go anyway and sue the cops.
>
>
>
>>You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
>things
>>were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not after
>>the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like after
>>the Civil war.. Why??
>
>And now blacks have their own hate groups. Progress?
>
>>
>>Is there still racism in America??
>
>Where is there not? But there will be none in my house.
>
>DC
>Duhhh??
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>>I dunno, Don, sounds to me like LaMont did the work, maybe America should
>>be thanking him.
>
>It thanks him every two weeks via either a check or direct deposit, whereupon
>he hires someone or buys software to make sure he gets all the tax deductions
>he is entitled to.
>
>Damn, sounds just like me!
>
>Thanks America!
>
>DC
>LaMont wrote:
> "So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>
> Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and hiring
> practices?
>
> You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a great
> deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them for
> standing up for us..
>
> Also, you use terms like Libral all you want, but librals helped people..
>
>
.... people who know my wife and I would say "conservatives help people".
We just choose to do it rather than force it through legislation.
Jeff
>
>
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>>>help..
>>
>>Help must be defined as opportunity, not handouts. The welfare state
>>has helped cause the current crisis in the black family by paying more
>>money for unwed children, and many other abuses.
>>
>>Black americans, when given opportunity do very well. You don't need
>>the white liberal democrat patronage system, that is for damn sure, but
>>that is what you are offered by those who make you promises of results
>>rather than promises of opportunity.
>>
>>
>>>Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>>>My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are what
>>>you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>>>type-smile) and make a really good living..
>>
>>So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for Blacks
>>>since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>>>manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>>>for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>>>is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
>>
>>Jr
>>
>>>if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people really
>>>do ned a helping hand.
>>
>>King would kick these frauds in the ass and send them on their way.
>>That's the part you hope no one notices.
>>
>>King has become a part of the culture, and his views have become
>>mainstream. The current "leaders" have to invent controversy and
>>race-hustle every situation they can to continue their careers and lavish
>>lifestyles.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in
>
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Sat, 26 May 2007 18:25 |
excelav
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> a
>
>>>White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the local
>>>Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
>>
>>I've seen this. Go anyway and sue the cops.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
>>
>>things
>>
>>>were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not after
>>>the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like after
>>>the Civil war.. Why??
>>
>>And now blacks have their own hate groups. Progress?
>>
>>
>>>Is there still racism in America??
>>
>>Where is there not? But there will be none in my house.
>>
>>DC
>>
>
>That's for sure. Conservatives do help people.
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>LaMont wrote:
>> "So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>
>> Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and
hiring
>> practices?
>>
>> You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a
great
>> deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them
for
>> standing up for us..
>>
>> Also, you use terms like Libral all you want, but librals helped people..
>>
>>
>... people who know my wife and I would say "conservatives help people".
> We just choose to do it rather than force it through legislation.
>
>Jeff
>>
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>>>>help..
>>>
>>>Help must be defined as opportunity, not handouts. The welfare state
>>>has helped cause the current crisis in the black family by paying more
>>>money for unwed children, and many other abuses.
>>>
>>>Black americans, when given opportunity do very well. You don't need
>>>the white liberal democrat patronage system, that is for damn sure, but
>>>that is what you are offered by those who make you promises of results
>>>rather than promises of opportunity.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>>>>My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are
what
>>>>you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>>>>type-smile) and make a really good living..
>>>
>>>So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for
Blacks
>>>>since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>>>>manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>>>>for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>>>>is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
>>>
>>>Jr
>>>
>>>>if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people
really
>>>>do ned a helping hand.
>>>
>>>King would kick these frauds in the ass and send them on their way.
>>>That's the part you hope no one notices.
>>>
>>>King has become a part of the culture, and his views have become
>>>mainstream. The current "leaders" have to invent controversy and
>>>race-hustle every situation they can to continue their careers and lavish
>>>lifestyles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in
>>
>> a
>>
>>>>White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the
local
>>>>Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
>>>
>>>I've seen this. Go anyway and sue the cops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
>>>
>>>things
>>>
>>>>were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not
after
>>>>the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like
after
>>>>the Civil war.. Why??
>>>
>>>And now blacks have their own hate groups. Progress?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is there still racism in America??
>>>
>>>Where is there not? But there will be none in my house.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>
>>I think it's fair to say there are self-identified "liberals" AND
"conservatives" who help people.
Along with people who don't cotton to widely misconstrued labels.
All helping people directly from their own hands.
And indirectly through other organizations. Including via government
through schools, police, fire departments, sheriffs, hospitals, national
guard units, food stamps, ADC, courts, etc.
And through a myriad of private groups, some of whom may be
self-identified as "liberal" or "conservative."
It's also fair to say that there are self-identified "liberals" and
"conservatives" who don't help other people much if they don't have to.
The point being: It would be unfair to everyone involved to generalize
about who is helpful and who isn't.
Being helpful to others is a shared value that's not restricted to being
"liberal" or "conservative."
I've said it before but I really think those terms have become fuzzy at
best.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Jeff Hoover wrote:
> LaMont wrote:
>> "So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>
>> Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and
>> hiring
>> practices?
>> You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a
>> great
>> deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them for
>> standing up for us..
>>
>> Also, you use terms like Libral all you want, but librals helped people..
>>
>>
> ... people who know my wife and I would say "conservatives help people".
> We just choose to do it rather than force it through legislation.
>
> Jeff
>>
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks
>>>> needed
>>>> help..
>>>
>>> Help must be defined as opportunity, not handouts. The welfare state
>>> has helped cause the current crisis in the black family by paying more
>>> money for unwed children, and many other abuses.
>>> Black americans, when given opportunity do very well. You don't need
>>> the white liberal democrat patronage system, that is for damn sure, but
>>> that is what you are offered by those who make you promises of results
>>> rather than promises of opportunity.
>>>
&g
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| Re: TAXI - Independant A&R - Anybody have any comments? [message #85394 is a reply to message #85390] |
Sat, 26 May 2007 19:28 |
Kim
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Jamie K" <</FONT><A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Aaron Allen wrote:<BR>> =
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they don't pay wage taxes unless they have an employer just begging for=20
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face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> illegal aliens pay an average of =
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federal taxes, for a total of <BR>> about 16 billion per =
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are federal taxes and wage taxes=20
synonymous?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> So despite the status =
problem you=20
mention, many illegal aliens DO seem <BR>> to be paying federal =
taxes, and=20
not an insignificant amount.<BR>> <BR>> That site goes on to claim =
that=20
illegal aliens are still causing an <BR>> average net drain of $2,700 =
per=20
household. However this is interesting: <BR>> they claim that if =
illegal=20
aliens were made legal, they would have an <BR>> average net drain of =
almost=20
$7,700 per household, almost triple.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They're still in the hole, every year, =
not a good=20
thing. To make them legal, handle the cost of such and then have them=20
'subsidized' for welfare programs by the gov't isn't good, =
either. (A=20
hand up needs to be that and that alone, time limited, and not become a =
hand=20
out.) That's just burdon shifting but at least they'd be legal, =
trackable, and=20
making efforts to stay within the confines of the law of the land =
they're living=20
off of. I think they should be required within a reasonable time to have =
certain=20
educational standards as well.. like, say speaking english to a standard =
high=20
enough to get through life in the US w/o having to burden others. Basic=20
guideline? If I need a translater to understand you, you need to learn =
the=20
language better. This would do wonders for the less tolerant types that =
feel=20
encroached upon as well, making things better all the way around. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Long story short: Legalize them, get =
them a hand=20
upwards with time/figure limits and they either excel or they don't but =
the=20
money ends either way and if they pooch it up, get prints and out you =
go.=20
Welcome to the border, y'all don't come back now, yahear?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd offer the same to any US born =
deadbeats if we=20
had somewhere to deport them to. :P</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, I'm not pointing to the sick or =
unable. I mean=20
the able bodied that can/should be adding value as a citizen, but choose =
the low=20
road for whatever reason. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> I don't know if those =
figures are=20
solid, but I believe illegal aliens <BR>> ARE contributing to the =
federal tax=20
system. It would be interesting to <BR>> know if those who have been =
here for=20
a while and have become somewhat <BR>> established contribute more on =
a=20
yearly basis than those who have just <BR>> arrived.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No no.. I didn't say they weren't =
contributing at=20
all, I said they're not contributing their <EM>share</EM>. How =
they're=20
paying any SS or wage money? That's an interesting topic, one we're not =
likely=20
to get a real solid and honest answer to.Additionally, no one =
has=20
any sure fire 100% way to know that anybody's numbers are accurate =
/ honest=20
from the internet/papers/tv/interest groups, but it's the best we've got =
for=20
right now besides what we see personally.. which is likely to be =
fragmented by=20
region/personal experience. I have the opp to work with/around =
enforcement=20
officers from security guards to local, state and federal level. They're =
all=20
pretty much in agreement that the illegals, particularly Mexican =
illegals=20
in this region, are waaay out of hand. That says more to me than=20
any single source. </FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C7B836.544596E0--"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>
>Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and hiring
>practices?
For your good life. For the chance to espouse ideas others
may find insane, yet remain civil with them.
For the chance to help others achieve as you have.
In the final analysis, if we are not thankful for our blessings
we must lose them...
>You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a great
>deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them for
>standing up for us..
Yes, they occasionally do good. Much more often, they
do harm.
DCIf those numbers are on, then that's just pretty stupid of them not to get
legal, isn't it? Problems are deeper than that though unfortunately but an
interesting find you have there none the less. I'm interested in knowing
more if you have some data? I'm still not sure how an illegal w/o a SSN who
can't claim status is paying legal wage taxes, and from the rate levels
they're usually at per hour. Perhaps they've overcompensated the tax leakage
up the Wal-Mart path to what it pays in fed taxes from purchases by
illegals?
Do you see the math error in that data? We're not talking lawyers and
doctors here, we're probably talking more like migrant farm workers and the
dude that cuts your grass once every week or two.
Gonna be a hard sell for me to buy that $80k pay-in overage figure man, I
have a pretty good grasp of what a hired 'lawn technician' makes since I was
in that business myself, and what you'd have to put up with on that gig. I
grew up on a cattle and vegetable farm and lived until a few years ago in a
highly saturated farm migrant worker town, if that makes any difference on
my take.
These days I'm city boy and loving it, heh.
AA
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:468129a1@linux...
>
> Aaron, I'm following your links/sources, this one looks at lifetime tax
> contributions.
>
> "The National Research Council concluded that immigrants will pay on
> average $80,000 per capita more in taxes than they will use in government
> services during their lifetimes. The Social Security Administration, for
> example, estimates that workers without valid social security numbers
> contribute $7 billion in Social Security tax revenues and roughly $1.5
> billion in Medicare taxes annually, yet elderly immigrants rarely qualify
> for Medicare or long-term care services provided through Medicaid."
>
> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/reality_check _immigration.html
>
> Again, I don't know if these figures are solid, but they paint a different
> picture.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKruz.com
>
>
>
> Jamie K wrote:
>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>
>>> /An illegal alien can't have any of the quoted status above. Therefore,
>>> they don't pay wage taxes unless they have an employer just begging for
>>> it that reports/pays on them. Not likely, but not impossible I suppose.
>>> /
>>
>> According to one of the sites you linked (which largely agrees with you)
>>
>> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html
>>
>> illegal aliens pay an average of $4,200 in federal taxes, for a total of
>> about 16 billion per year.
>>
>> So despite the status problem you mention, many illegal aliens DO seem to
>> be paying federal taxes, and not an insignificant amount.
>>
>> That site goes on to claim that illegal aliens are still causing an
>> average net drain of $2,700 per household. However this is interesting:
>> they claim that if illegal aliens were made legal, they would have an
>> average net drain of almost $7,700 per household, almost triple.
>>
>> I don't know if those figures are solid, but I believe illegal aliens ARE
>> contributing to the federal tax system. It would be interesting to know
>> if those who have been here for a while and have become somewhat
>> established contribute more on a yearly basis than those who have just
>> arrived.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.comHi group,
Per this groups opinions and experience, I couldn't decide on a clock or a
DAC so I ordered them both. It stings $$$$ but I should be a happy camper
come the weekend.
The Big Ben with a 3' quality cable is on the way and I don't know whether
the MEC is un-terminated or terminated. I have the MEC booklet but it
doesn't state it. For the time being the I just need one word clock out of
the Big Ben to the MEC. If un-terminated, then the Big Ben user's manual
says I need to connect a BNC "T" with a 75 ohm termination. If the MEC is
correctly terminated, then I can just connect the clock in and fire it up.
For now the MEC is the last and only interface in the clock chain and per
the BB manual it states that the last item needs to be terminated.
What do you guys and gals know about this? Do I need the "T" and 75 ohm
terminator or is the MEC correctly terminated?
Thanks,
Wayne
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ca.. You stated" Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders"
>> along with
>> the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted
>> the
>>
>> ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign
>> on
>> "the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted
>> Kennedy
>>
>> and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's."
>>
>> That system 'welfare' bythe way still has many more whites than blacks on
>> payroll..
>
> whites outnumber blacks in this country 10:1 so that would be expected,
> but I'm not talk in strictly about blacks or other races here. I think the
> blacks in this count were sold a bill of good by the white liberal power
> structure in order to insure that they had a dependable voting base.
>
>> Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>> help..
>>
>
> I agree with you.
>
>> Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>> My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are
>> what
>> you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>> type-smile) and make a really good living..
>
> I believe you. 99% of the folks I know and hang with who happen to be in
> the minority racial profile are of similar background. They have an level
> of acumen that has allowed them to see past the BS..
>
>>
>> I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for
>> Blacks
>> since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>> manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>> for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>> is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
>> Jr
>> if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people
>> really
>> do ned a helping hand.
>
> I agree with you again, but that is changing, I do see distrust and
> resentment among whites when someone of racial minority is appointed to an
> administrative position where they have hire/fire capabilities over
> whites. I also see this when blacks have hire/fire power over hispanics
> and vice versa. I believe that one reason for this is, based on my
> experience, is that
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excelav
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Registered: July 2005
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an..Well, If the Job(s) are in a
>> White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the
>> local
>> Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
>
> I think that in the white community there is a mindset that for 40 years
> the same level of education and opportunity has been offered to minorities
> so that they can learn "the system" because the "system" is what works for
> the whites. You can argue that this is not correct and you would be right
> to some degree, but a big part of why is that children in urban public
> schools often aren't expected to perform at exceptional levels and a
> welfare system has contributed to the utter destruction of the "family
> unit". this seems to have happened to urban blacks in disproportionate
> numbers and that, my friend, is in large part due to Ted Kennedy and "his
> boys". You don't see inner sity youth invited for a romp on the lwan at
> Hyannis do you? You didn't see chelsea Clinton attending public schools in
> DC, did you?
>
> Part of the system has been admitedly culturally unfriendly to those who
> do not play by it's rules. Those rules demand conformity. Even
> non-conformist whites are left on the outside, but not to the degree that
> the racial minorities are. However, if someone who is of racial minority
> proves themself within this crucible, they gain respece and "equality".
> Why???....because they are considered part of the solution.
>
>>
>> You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
>> things
>> were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not
>> after
>> the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like
>> after
>> the Civil war.. Why??
>
> "We all" don't think that at all. I have lived in situations where I was
> in the racial minority and refused to accept "the system" that worked for
> those of the majority and I was treated like shit and thrown in jail. I
> know a bit about this myself.
>>
>> Is there still racism in America??
>
> Yes....and it's not just practiced by whites.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deej
>
>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote in message news:467f4a21$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Dj, Come one.. Chris is right. This whole bring me you tired..blah
>>>> blah..
>>>> it seems..is only for Europeans..
>>>>
>>>I disagree. I believe it is meant for those who are willing to abide by
>> the
>>>laws of this country, accept the economic model of this country, learn
>>>the
>>
>>>common language of this country so that they can understand the laws and
>>
>>>thrive within the economic model.
>>>
>>>> Many many other people for around this glob would love to become
>>>> american
>>>> citizens. But, because of politics, they (US Gov )try to keep a certain
>>
>>>> ethic
>>>> group numbers down..
>>>
>>>No, I think it is because it has become necessary to accept people now
>>>who
>>
>>>can and are willing to assimilate here rather than to insulate themselves
>>
>>>into a culturally insular ghetto and try to recreate their old life and
>>
>>>society here in a new country. It's a normal thing to do at first, but
>>>nowadays, there is less emphqasis on becoming "American" and more
>>>emphasis
>>
>>>on taking what America has to offer while refusing to honor it's existing
>>
>>>laws.
>>>>
>>>> Now, in the case of the mexicans , it's a know fact that even with
>>>> immagration
>>>> reform, their numbers would drasticly create another political power
>>>> base.
>>>> In this case, for now, they (mexican/hispanics) would vote
>>>> democratic...
>>>>
>>>Except for the ones who have accepted the economic opportunities and
>>>thrived
>>
>>>and who mostly vote along conservative lines. As the last of the
>>>conservatives are purged from the Democratic party, these folks have
>>>nowhere
>>
>>>to go but the Repulican party. Same thing can be said for other ethnic
>>>groups, including successful, upwardly mobile blacks who have taken off
>> the
>>>victim suit that Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders" along with
>>
>>>the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted
>>>the
>>
>>>ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign
>> on
>>>"the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted
>>>Kennedy
>>
>>>and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's.
>>>
>>>> Even more important: The REal reason your president and other s want an
>>
>>>> open
>>>> boarder is because they know that we need to beuild up our armed
>>>> forces.
>>>> Seeing that most americans (Whites, Blacks, Asians) are not volutaring
>> to
>>>> enlist atthe numbers the Gove sees fit to maintain a vital fighting
>>>> army..
>>>>
>>>> Teedy Kennedy today just spoke on George Steponaplis show stating that
>>
>>>> very
>>>> thing...."The new bill states that in order to become a citizen a
>>>> imagrant
>>>> must "first server in the armed" forces..Then, after they have serverd
>> ,
>>>> they become citizens.
>>>
>>>This has always been the fast track to citizenship, not just recently.
>>>Another hing you're missing is that we are not forcing anyone o do
>>>anything.
>>
>>>there are requirements for for becoming a citizen here. The first one
>>>should
>>
>>>be to obey the laws and not cross the border illegally.
>>>>
>>>> This is what they (US Gov) wanted from the start..TTo build up the
>>>> armed
>>>> forces with the ultra poor.. Seeing that that the only ethic group who
>> are
>>>> volutaring they services these days are your poor to middle poor
>>>> whites..
>>>> You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in
>> the
>>>> Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>>
>>>> sons
>>>> to war.. No different today..
>>>> I would not send my son(s) to war in Iraq. Would you?
>>>
>>>These "poor kids" have a pretty high level of education for the most part
>>
>>>LaMont.. I would not send my son anywhere. If he were of age, I would
>>>allow
>>
>>>him to make his own decisions.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:467f2d05$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The US goverment..
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this the same US government that runs the same country that these
>>>>>people
>>>>
>>>>>want to immigrate to because it is so evil?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Aaron Allen wrote:
> If those numbers are on, then that's just pretty stupid of them not to get
> legal, isn't it?
Not necessarily. For example if someone feels they are doing better as
an illegal alien than they'd do where they came from, it doesn't matter
how much better they'd be doing as a legal alien, IF they feel they have
no chance getting in legally. The comparison would only be between what
they see as realistic choices.
> Problems are deeper than that though unfortunately but an
> interesting find you have there none the less. I'm interested in knowing
> more if you have some data?
I was just following one of your links. Looks like it's
AmericanProgress.org and the National Research Council as sources.
> I'm still not sure how an illegal w/o a SSN who
> can't claim status is paying legal wage taxes, and from the rate levels
> they're usually at per hour. Perhaps they've overcompensated the tax leakage
> up the Wal-Mart path to what it pays in fed taxes from purchases by
> illegals?
Perhaps faked ID sets include stolen SS numbers.
> Do you see the math error in that data? We're not talking lawyers and
> doctors here, we're probably talking more like migrant farm workers and the
> dude that cuts your grass once every week or two.
I don't know if the numbers are solid from any of these sources. But
from what I've seen around here, it's not just migrant farm workers.
We're talking people who work long hours in construction. There's money
in that. I think they pay OK in slaughterhouses. Not so much hourly pay
in restaurant work but lots of hours available. Some folks could be
working multiple jobs. Motivated people can make money over time.
> Gonna be a hard sell for me to buy that $80k pay-in overage figure man, I
> have a pretty good grasp of what a hired 'lawn technician' makes since I was
> in that business myself, and what you'd have to put up with on that gig. I
> grew up on a cattle and vegetable farm and lived until a few years ago in a
> highly saturated farm migrant worker town, if that makes any difference on
> my take.
> These days I'm city boy and loving it, heh.
I grew up on a farm also, although a very small one. Now doing the city
thing, too, and like a lot of the aspects but not all. Still love wide
open spaces!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> AA
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:468129a1@linux...
>> Aaron, I'm following your links/sources, this one looks at lifetime tax
>> contributions.
>>
>> "The National Research Council concluded that immigrants will pay on
>> average $80,000 per capita more in taxes than they will use in government
>> services during their lifetimes. The Social Security Administration, for
>> example, estimates that workers without valid social security numbers
>> contribute $7 billion in Social Security tax revenues and roughly $1.5
>> billion in Medicare taxes annually, yet elderly immigrants rarely qualify
>> for Medicare or long-term care services provided through Medicaid."
>>
>> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/reality_check _immigration.html
>>
>> Again, I don't know if these figures are solid, but they paint a different
>> picture.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKruz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>> /An illegal alien can't have any of the quoted status above. Therefore,
>>>> they don't pay wage taxes unless they have an employer just begging for
>>>> it that reports/pays on them. Not likely, but not impossible I suppose.
>>>> /
>>> According to one of the sites you linked (which largely agrees with you)
>>>
>>> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html
>>>
>>> illegal aliens pay an average of $4,200 in federal taxes, for a total of
>>> about 16 billion per year.
>>>
>>> So despite the status problem you mention, many illegal aliens DO seem to
>>> be paying federal taxes, and not an insignificant amount.
>>>
>>> That site goes on to claim that illegal aliens are still causing an
>>> average net drain of $2,700 per household. However this is interesting:
>>> they claim that if illegal aliens were made legal, they would have an
>>> average net drain of almost $7,700 per household, almost triple.
>>>
>>> I don't know if those figures are solid, but I believe illegal aliens ARE
>>> contributing to the federal tax system. It would be interesting to know
>>> if those who have been here for a while and have become somewhat
>>> established contribute more on a yearly basis than those who have just
>>> arrived.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>I used a terminator cap on my MEC outputs and they were happier for it. I
don't know about the
BB. You do not want to "chain" your devices if you can help it. Run a
separate BNC cable to each device you want to clock. Make the cables of
equal length if possible.
Deej
"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4681d562@linux...
> Hi group,
>
> Per this groups opinions and experience, I couldn't decide on a clock or a
> DAC so I ordered them both. It stings $$$$ but I should be a happy camper
> come the weekend.
>
> The Big Ben with a 3' quality cable is on the way and I don't know whether
> the MEC is un-terminated or terminated. I have the MEC booklet but it
> doesn't state it. For the time being the I just need one word clock out
> of the Big Ben to the MEC. If un-terminated, then the Big Ben user's
> manual says I need to connect a BNC "T" with a 75 ohm termination. If the
> MEC is correctly terminated, then I can just connect the clock in and fire
> it up. For now the MEC is the last and only interface in the clock chain
> and per the BB manual it states that the last item needs to be terminated.
>
> What do you guys and gals know about this? Do I need the "T" and 75 ohm
> terminator or is the MEC correctly terminated?
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne
> Paris since '97
>
>
>Thanks DJ. I agree not to chain and I don't need to at the moment.
Anyone else wanna chime?
Wayne
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:4681ddc5@linux...
>I used a terminator cap on my MEC outputs and they were happier for it. I
>don't know about the
> BB. You do not want to "chain" your devices if you can help it. Run a
> separate BNC cable to each device you want to clock. Make the cables of
> equal length if possible.
> Deej
>On 27 Jun 2007 09:52:23 +1000, "James McCloskey"
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Kim
Messages: 1246
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year hell, eben moth as an Minority , African American , then you
tell me something. But, since you cannot, just shut the Fuck up about things
you don't know ...
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>DC, you are he one who is insane. I thank God for removing our people from
>the bondage os Slavery.. That's it..
>Do you understand ..You studid Mother fucker..!!!
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>>
>>>Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and
>hiring
>>>practices?
>>
>>For your good life. For the chance to espouse ideas others
>>may find insane, yet remain civil with them.
>>
>>For the chance to help others achieve as you have.
>>
>>In the final analysis, if we are not thankful for our blessings
>>we must lose them...
>>
>>
>>>You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a
great
>>>deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them
for
>>>standing up for us..
>>
>>Yes, they occasionally do good. Much more often, they
>>do harm.
>>
>>DC
>>
>"Wayne Carson" arson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>Thanks DJ. I agree not to chain and I don't need to at the moment.
>Anyone else wanna chime?
Yes, make sure you use true 75-ohm BNC cables, there are also
50-ohm cables out there with BNC connectors out there, and
those will f*ck up your world from a clocking standpoint.
Cables coded RG-58 are 50-ohm, and RG-59's are 75-ohm.
NeilHi DJ,
You wrote:
I think that in the white community there is a mindset that for 40 years
the same level of education and opportunity has been offered to minorities
so that they can learn "the system" because the "system" is what works for
the whites. You can argue that this is not correct and you would be right
to some degree, but a big part of why is that children in urban public schools
often aren't expected to perform at exceptional levels and a welfare system
has contributed to the utter destruction of the "family unit". this seems
to have happened to urban blacks in disproportionate numbers and that, my
friend, is in large part due to Ted Kennedy and "his boys". You don't see
inner sity youth invited for a romp on the lwan at Hyannis do you? You didn't
see chelsea Clinton attending public schools in DC, did you?"
I see your point: But, I think what's missing, especially today, with the
urban hip-hop community, is that they saw My generation go thru the proper
process of doing what "the system" deemed necessary that a peron o do to
get ahead in America.. Well, they saw get our Degrees but, they also saw
and heard the frustrations that we encountered wih corporate america..
Subsusquentaliy, they (GenX & now Gen Now)african americans do no really
buy into the so-called system. They view it as rigged. More about "who you
know", then What you know..They see corporate america as the ultimate "Set
Aside" program there is. Set asides not for them , but for others..
Who can blame them? I have 2 in college now, with my son(U of M) graduating
next spring. My Daughter is a sophmore @ Columbia. It ahs been very dificault
for thier mom and me to convience them that gettign their degrees is very
good choice. They have a real disdain for corporate america seeing wha heir
parens have gone thru in the past 24 years..
I said all that to say. You have guys like Ice-cube, Dr Dre, who from good
homes, but did not want to go thru mainstram way that they saw their parents
go thru.
Blacks in america no longer want to second -class citizens. But, they do
not trust or want to play the rigged(america) game either..
All in all, right now, I would say that we, the African Americns are lost.
Searching for and identity .Because everytime we have tried to "assimulate"
we were not welcomed..
So, you the gov ask us to go to war, there is almost a 95 percent resounding
answer of no. Why?
-We, african americans have fought in every major war since this country
inception, and still enountered bigotry, lynchings, muders, hanging, beatings...etc..
See, in each war, we were promised full cititenship and freedom, and simple
equall american liberties.. We're tlaking from the 1700's to 1964 passage
of the civil rights act.
Then, lets not even talk about the Bussing problems that once again caused
a wide gap in the education btw whites and blacks..
Then the Cia/FBI under hoover decides place to the Black american race under
survalence when it became evident that we would rather die off than to be
subjected to the treatment we getting from america.. Then the CIA dispersed
drugs...Guns....And started these gange called Crips and Bloods..
CIA...Introduce "crack in to the black community in 1984..Then, started imprisioning
the very Drug Junkies they got hooked in the first place.. Get them hook
on drugs...Which removes the fathers from the home...No male role models....Single
family homes...Welfare.......You start getting a clearer picture that's not
widely told no taught..Then by the 80's again the Gov passed the 1 crack
gram =25-30 years, 1 pound of cocaine= 4years tops...
It's easy to see that the junkie (Black) in most cases will be caught with
the 1 gram and the person (usually) white with pound is not punished as hard..So,
you almost have an entire generation in prisoned from the 80's who are serving
25-30 years for possesion of 1 gram of crack!! Is i a coesidence that most
are Black? So, then form the 80's we have black sons and daughters fatherless
whcih equals ruderless, with only the young mom to care for them.. A Spriraling
situation as you can see..
All because Hoover an others deemed that we were a threat..
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Hi La Mont,
>
>Responses/comments below..........
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46803863@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>> I would not expect you or many other whites to understand the plight of
>> the
>> Black america.. You stated" Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders"
>> along with
>> the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted
the
>>
>> ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign
>> on
>> "the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted
>> Kennedy
>>
>> and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's."
>>
>> That system 'welfare' bythe way still has many more whites than blacks
on
>> payroll..
>
>whites outnumber blacks in this country 10:1 so that would be expected,
but
>I'm not talk in strictly about blacks or other races here. I think the
>blacks in this count were sold a bill of good by the white liberal power
>structure in order to insure that they had a dependable voting base.
>
>> Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>> help..
>>
>
>I agree with you.
>
>> Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>> My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are
what
>> you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>> type-smile) and make a really good living..
>
>I believe you. 99% of the folks I know and hang with who happen to be in
the
>minority racial profile are of similar background. They have an level of
>acumen that has allowed them to see past the BS..
>
>>
>> I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for
>> Blacks
>> since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>> manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>> for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>> is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
Jr
>> if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people
>> really
>> do ned a helping hand.
>
>I agree with you again, but that is changing, I do see distrust and
>resentment among whites when someone of racial minority is appointed to
an
>administrative position where they have hire/fire capabilities over whites.
>I also see this when blacks have hire/fire power over hispanics and vice
>versa. I believe that one reason for this is, based on my experience, is
>that those in power tend to surround themselves with people whom they
>consider to be culturally simpatico.
>
>>
>> Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in
a
>> White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the
>> local
>> Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
>
>I think that in the white community there is a mindset that for 40 years
the
>same level of education and opportunity has been offered to minorities so
>that they can learn "the system" because the "system" is what works for
the
>whites. You can argue that this is not correct and you would be right to
>some degree, but a big part of why is that children in urban public schools
>often aren't expected to perform at exceptional levels and a welfare system
>has contributed to the utter destruction of the "family unit". this seems
to
>have happened to urban blacks in disproportionate numbers and that, my
>friend, is in large part due to Ted Kennedy and "his boys". You don't see
>inner sity youth invited for a romp on the lwan at Hyannis do you? You
>didn't see chelsea Clinton attending public schools in DC, did you?
>
>Part of the system has been admitedly culturally unfriendly to those who
do
>not play by it's rules. Those rules demand conformity. Even non-conformist
>whites are left on the outside, but not to the degree that the racial
>minorities are. However, if someone who is of racial minority proves
>themself within this crucible, they gain respece and "equality".
>Why???....because they are considered part of the solution.
>
>>
>> You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
>> things
>> were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not
>> after
>> the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like after
>> the Civil war.. Why??
>
>"We all" don't think that at all. I have lived in situations where I was
in
>the racial minority and refused to accept "the system" that worked for those
>of the majority and I was treated like shit and thrown in jail. I know a
bit
>about this myself.
>>
>> Is there still racism in America??
>
>Yes....and it's not just practiced by whites.
>
>Regards,
>
>Deej
>
>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote in message news:467f4a21$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Dj, Come one.. Chris is right. This whole bring me you tired..blah
>>>> blah..
>>>> it seems..is only for Europeans..
>>>>
>>>I disagree. I believe it is meant for those who are willing to abide by
>> the
>>>laws of this country, accept the economic model of this country, learn
the
>>
>>>common language of this country so that they can understand the laws and
>>
>>>thrive within the economic model.
>>>
>>>> Many many other people for around this glob would love to become
>>>> american
>>>> citizens. But, because of politics, they (US Gov )try to keep a certain
>>
>>>> ethic
>>>> group numbers down..
>>>
>>>No, I think it is because it has become necessary to accept people now
who
>>
>>>can and are willing to assimilate here rather than to insulate themselves
>>
>>>into a culturally insular ghetto and try to recreate their old life and
>>
>>>society here in a new country. It's a normal thing to do at first, but
>>>nowadays, there is less emphqasis on becoming "American" and more emphasis
>>
>>>on taking what America has to offer while refusing to honor it's existing
>>
>>>laws.
>>>>
>>>> Now, in the case of the mexicans , it's a know fact that even with
>>>> immagration
>>>> reform, their numbers would drasticly create another political power
>>>> base.
>>>> In this case, for now, they (mexican/hispanics) would vote democratic...
>>>>
>>>Except for the ones who have accepted the economic opportunities and
>>>thrived
>>
>>>and who mostly vote along conservative lines. As the last of the
>>>conservatives are purged from the Democratic party, these folks have
>>>nowhere
>>
>>>to go but the Repulican party. Same thing can be said for other ethnic
>>>groups, including successful, upwardly mobile blacks who have taken off
>> the
>>>victim suit that Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders" along with
>>
>>>the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted
the
>>
>>>ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign
>> on
>>>"the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted
>>>Kennedy
>>
>>>and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's.
>>>
>>>> Even more important: The REal reason your president and other s want
an
>>
>>>> open
>>>> boarder is because they know that we need to beuild up our armed forces.
>>>> Seeing that most americans (Whites, Blacks, Asians) are not volutaring
>> to
>>>> enlist atthe numbers the Gove sees fit to maintain a vital fighting
>>>> army..
>>>>
>>>> Teedy Kennedy today just spoke on George Steponaplis show stating that
>>
>>>> very
>>>> thing...."The new bill states that in order to become a citizen a
>>>> imagrant
>>>> must "first server in the armed" forces..Then, after they have serverd
>> ,
>>>> they become citizens.
>>>
>>>This has always been the fast track to citizenship, not just recently.
>>>Another hing you're missing is that we are not forcing anyone o do
>>>anything.
>>
>>>there are requirements for for becoming a citizen here. The first one
>>>should
>>
>>>be to obey the laws and not cross the border illegally.
>>>>
>>>> This is what they (US Gov) wanted from the start..TTo build up the armed
>>>> forces with the ultra poor.. Seeing that that the only ethic group who
>> are
>>>> volutaring they services these days are your poor to middle poor
>>>> whites..
>>>> You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in
>> the
>>>> Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>>
>>>> sons
>>>> to war.. No different today..
>>>> I would not send my son(s) to war
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quot; <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hi DJ,
>You wrote:
>I think that in the white community there is a mindset that for 40 years
>the same level of education and opportunity has been offered to minorities
>so that they can learn "the system" because the "system" is what works for
>the whites. You can argue that this is not correct and you would be right
>to some degree, but a big part of why is that children in urban public schools
>often aren't expected to perform at exceptional levels and a welfare system
>has contributed to the utter destruction of the "family unit". this seems
>to have happened to urban blacks in disproportionate numbers and that, my
>friend, is in large part due to Ted Kennedy and "his boys". You don't see
>inner sity youth invited for a romp on the lwan at Hyannis do you? You didn't
>see chelsea Clinton attending public schools in DC, did you?"
>
>I see your point: But, I think what's missing, especially today, with the
>urban hip-hop community, is that they saw My generation go thru the proper
>process of doing what "the system" deemed necessary that a peron o do to
>get ahead in America.. Well, they saw get our Degrees but, they also saw
>and heard the frustrations that we encountered wih corporate america..
>
>Subsusquentaliy, they (GenX & now Gen Now)african americans do no really
>buy into the so-called system. They view it as rigged. More about "who you
>know", then What you know..They see corporate america as the ultimate "Set
>Aside" program there is. Set asides not for them , but for others..
>
>Who can blame them? I have 2 in college now, with my son(U of M) graduating
>next spring. My Daughter is a sophmore @ Columbia. It ahs been very dificault
>for thier mom and me to convience them that gettign their degrees is very
>good choice. They have a real disdain for corporate america seeing wha heir
>parens have gone thru in the past 24 years..
>
>I said all that to say. You have guys like Ice-cube, Dr Dre, who from good
>homes, but did not want to go thru mainstram way that they saw their parents
>go thru.
>Blacks in america no longer want to second -class citizens. But, they do
>not trust or want to play the rigged(america) game either..
>All in all, right now, I would say that we, the African Americns are lost.
>Searching for and identity .Because everytime we have tried to "assimulate"
>we were not welcomed..
>
>So, you the gov ask us to go to war, there is almost a 95 percent resounding
>answer of no. Why?
>
>-We, african americans have fought in every major war since this country
>inception, and still enountered bigotry, lynchings, muders, hanging, beatings...etc..
>
>See, in each war, we were promised full cititenship and freedom, and simple
>equall american liberties.. We're tlaking from the 1700's to 1964 passa
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<www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Hi La Mont,
>>
>>Responses/comments below..........
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46803863@linux...
>>>
>>> DJ,
>>> I would not expect you or many other whites to understand the plight
of
>
>>> the
>>> Black america.. You stated" Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders"
>>> along with
>>> the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted
>the
>>>
>>> ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist"
sign
>>> on
>>> "the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted
>>> Kennedy
>>>
>>> and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's."
>>>
>>> That system 'welfare' bythe way still has many more whites than blacks
>on
>>> payroll..
>>
>>whites outnumber blacks in this country 10:1 so that would be expected,
>but
>>I'm not talk in strictly about blacks or other races here. I think the
>>blacks in this count were sold a bill of good by the white liberal power
>
>>structure in order to insure that they had a dependable voting base.
>>
>>> Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
>>> help..
>>>
>>
>>I agree with you.
>>
>>> Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>>> My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are
>what
>>> you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>>> type-smile) and make a really good living..
>>
>>I believe you. 99% of the folks I know and hang with who happen to be in
>the
>>minority racial profile are of similar background. They have an level
of
>
>>acumen that has allowed them to see past the BS..
>>
>>>
>>> I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for
>>> Blacks
>>> since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>>> manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>>> for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>>> is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
>Jr
>>> if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people
>>> really
>>> do ned a helping hand.
>>
>>I agree with you again, but that is changing, I do see distrust and
>>resentment among whites when someone of racial minority is appointed to
>an
>>administrative position where they have hire/fire capabilities over whites.
>
>>I also see this when blacks have hire/fire power over hispanics and vice
>
>>versa. I believe that one reason for this is, based on my experience, is
>
>>that those in power tend to surround themselves with people whom they
>>consider to be culturally simpatico.
>>
>>>
>>> Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in
>a
>>> White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the
>
>>> local
>>> Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
>>
>>I think that in the white community there is a mindset that for 40 years
>the
>>same level of education and opportunity has been offered to minorities
so
>
>>that they can learn "the system" because the "system" is what works for
>the
>>whites. You can argue that this is not correct and you would be right to
>
>>some degree, but a big part of why is that children in urban public schools
>
>>often aren't expected to perform at exceptional levels and a welfare system
>
>>has contributed to the utter destruction of the "family unit". this seems
>to
>>have happened to urban blacks in disproportionate numbers and that, my
>>friend, is in large part due to Ted Kennedy and "his boys". You don't see
>
>>inner sity youth invited for a romp on the lwan at Hyannis do you? You
>>didn't see chelsea Clinton attending public schools in DC, did you?
>>
>>Part of the system has been admitedly culturally unfriendly to those who
>do
>>not play by it's rules. Those rules demand conformity. Even non-conformist
>
>>whites are left on the outside, but not to the degree that the racial
>>minorities are. However, if someone who is of racial minority proves
>>themself within this crucible, they gain respece and "equality".
>>Why???....because they are considered part of the solution.
>>
>>>
>>> You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
>
>>> things
>>> were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not
>
>>> after
>>> the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hat
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chuck duffy
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an't have family looking over my
shoulder at stuff like this. Any suggestions, retorts, rebuttals,
discussions anyone wants to send me. please do so via email.
Sorry LaMont, I'm concerned you're gonna have a heart attack man. Find a
Starbucks, please, and get yourself some Tazo and quality inner peace time.
Your probably a workaholic, like me. I do Starbucks almost every day usually
with a friend, has been wonderful for me.
AAWell, it seems that Waves is not laying around taking it on the chin from
UAD.
http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3565Have you tried the demo yet? I am not doing iLOK, so I'm kinda stuck on the
'demo' part of that deal
The API Collection requires iLok authorization in order to activate a 7-day
demonstration period.
bummer.
AA
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Sun, 27 May 2007 13:27 |
Chris Lang
Messages: 91
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ieve as you have.
>>>
>>>In the final analysis, if we are not thankful for our blessings
>>>we must lose them...
>>>
>>>
>>>>You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a
>great
>>>>deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them
>for
>>>>standing up for us..
>>>
>>>Yes, they occasionally do good. Much more often, they
>>>do harm.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>
>Hey, I'm John.... WHo are you? Can you add a last name char or something?
"John " <tab@email.com> wrote:
>
>Well, it seems that Waves is not laying around taking it on the chin from
>UAD.
>
>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3565Hey LaMont,
Calm down and think about this for a minute...
Who do you think respects you more...
The folks who tiptoe around you, or get real quiet as soon as you
say certain words and bring up certain subjects, or those who
are willing to tell you the truth as they see it?
Who do you think regards you as an equal and who regards you
as still a victim? What will you forever be in their eyes?
Just a thought.
But I better shut the f*ck up now huh?
DCC'mon, Don, this is your MO. You push someone's buttons saying things you
know will sincerely anger and upset them, and then when they get sincerely
angry and upset you come in with a grandfatherly, 'Now, look what's become
of you.' I've seen it here a dozen times and even bit once in a while.
For various reasons involving mostly where I like to live, what music I enjoy,
and what kind of women I find attractive I've spent a lot more time with
non-white people than most white people do. The difference between them and
me is that while I can talk about racism and economic (in)justice and all
of that, they have to actually live it, day in and day out. So give it a
rest, Don, there are some things that we simply can't understand.
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>I know more than you can imagine...
>
>Look what you turn into when someone disagrees with you!
>
>Look in the mirror, man, if you want someone to blame.
>
>You should be ashamed of yourself.
>
>
>DC
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Even more...TO DC.. You're a fucking moron. I'm a moron for engaging
in
>>a dialog with you and your insane post. Get a life!! You idot!!!
>>You can take you and all of your insane so-called conservative viewpionts
>>and stick them up your ass!!!
>>
>>Should I thank you for the right to say that to you??? Well, let me thank
>>you DC for allowing me to say that you're an asshole who comes off like
>an
>>Fox-News Network talking point head..
>>
>>Fuck you!! And your thinking that every person born in this country thinks
>>that it's a Mecca of sorts..
>>Live a year hell, eben moth as an Minority , African American , then you
>>tell me something. But, since you cannot, just shut the Fuck up about things
>>you don't know ...
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>DC, you are he one who is insane. I thank God for removing our people
from
>>>the bondage os Slavery.. That's it..
>>>Do you understand ..You studid Mother fucker..!!!
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and
>>>hiring
>>>>>practices?
>>>>
>>>>For your good life. For the chance to espouse ideas others
>>>>may find insane, yet remain civil with them.
>>>>
>>>>For the chance to help others achieve as you have.
>>>>
>>>>In the final analysis, if we are not thankful for our blessings
>>>>we must lose them...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done
a
>>great
>>>>>deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them
>>for
>>>>>standing up for us..
>>>>
>>>>Yes, they occasionally do good. Much more often, they
>>>>do harm.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Drugs aren't the answer... ;^)
So far we've seen conflicting numbers about the impact of illegal
immigration. It would be best to have accurate data before condoning one
policy over another. This is not an easy issue, obviously. It can be and
is used as a wedge issue.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Aaron Allen wrote:
> Alllright. I'm done with this thread. I can't have family looking over my
> shoulder at stuff like this. Any suggestions, retorts, rebuttals,
> discussions anyone wants to send me. please do so via email.
> Sorry LaMont, I'm concerned you're gonna have a heart attack man. Find a
> Starbucks, please, and get yourself some Tazo and quality inner peace time.
> Your probably a workaholic, like me. I do Starbucks almost every day usually
> with a friend, has been wonderful for me.
>
> AA
>
>I am searching for a video card that will let me run for monitors running
on a G4 with OS 9.2. anyone know of a card that will work ?Don, come on. You're too intelligent to not be intelligent at all;-) If you
can't understand or will not understand things you can't understand, the
"YOU'RE WRONG" attityde can easily be a hard attacking boomerang on
behavings like these, as far as I have seen and understood up against the
years here;-)
Erling
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:4682756b$1@linux...
>
> Hey LaMont,
>
> Calm down and think about this for a minute...
>
> Who do you think respects you more...
>
> The folks who
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;>>>Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>Yeah, but they're blue! ;)
Looks like they capped WUP at $200. I'm not that fond of them as a
company, but they do seem to be making some nice plugins these days.
Hmm. To iLok or not to iLok, that is the question! I may take the
plunge because I want to try the Abbey Road & URS stuff. The upcoming
URS channel strip may be the best though, with all of it's input stage
modeling. It's a good time to be mixing in the box.
Graham
DJ wrote:
> I used to own Waves. Then when win XP came out, they tried to ding me for
> $300.00 to upgrade my software. I don't use Waves any more and will NEVER
> get involved with their ridiculous WUP.Sorry................Dave will only be "great" when he gives me his DM 2000.
Until then, he is "very very good"....."pending greatness"........he knows
how to move on to the lext level. It's up to him now.
;o)
"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4682a0ba@linux...
> OK . . . cool. You guys are great.
> Wayne
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4682a071$1@linux...
>> No, just the output. I have never been a fan of using T's in word clock
>> or video cabling.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Wayne Carson wrote:
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Do you mean terminate both the input with a "T" and the output?
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46828c00$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Terminate the output of the MEC... just to be sure.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Wayne Carson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you terminated with a BNC "T" on the input of the MEC? see
>>>>>attached, or
>>>>>is your termination on the MEC clock out because it is electrically the
>>>>>same point?
>>>>>Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>Sadly, the optical drive is hosed as well. Already tried that.
Why can't the just write a freaking driver for the file system?
TCB
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Somewhere there exists MSWindows software that can read a mac disk.
>Don't know the name off hand but if you search you'll find it. Buy it,
>install it and see if you can read the OSX partition from XP.
>
>But first I'd try booting off of the OSX system CD and see if you can
>see the internal OSX partition. If so you may be able to copy files off
>of it directly.
>
>Or get Disk Warrior, boot OSX off of its CD and use the included tools
>to rescue the OSX partition and back it up to an external drive.
>
>Or take it to an Apple store genius bar along with your external drive,
>ask nicely and they'll run Disk Warrior and do the backup for you.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>rick wrote:
>> try creating another user.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2007 02:34:45 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> My boss's kid spilled something into his Mac. I had put an XP partition
on
>>> it for him to play games. That boots fine, the OS X partition does not.
It
>>> looks to me like a boot loader issue, because I can select the OS X partition
>>> as the boot device but it chunks and then boots into XP anyway. I'd like
>>> to mount the OS X partition to back up data before sending it to Apple
to
>>> get worked on. Can I mount that partition in XP? If so, how?
>>>
>>> TCB
>>No problem, here's another nifty alternative:
Connect the hosed mac (H) to a good mac (G) via firewire.
Start G if it's not already running. Then start H while holding down the
T key. This will put it into firewire target disk mode and the drives on
H will appear on the desktop of G.
Copy your data, run Disk Warrior, whatever you need.
Detailed instructions:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> Sadly, the optical drive is hosed as well. Already tried that.
>
> Why can't the just write a freaking driver for the file system?
>
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Somewhere there exists MSWindows software that can read a mac disk.
>> Don't know the name off hand but if you search you'll find it. Buy it,
>> install it and see if you can read the OSX partition from XP.
>>
>> But first I'd try booting off of the OSX system CD and see if you can
>> see the internal OSX partition. If so you may be able to copy files off
>
>> of it directly.
>>
>> Or get Disk Warrior, boot OSX off of its CD and use the included tools
>> to rescue the OSX partition and back it up to an external drive.
>>
>> Or take it to an Apple store genius bar along with your external drive,
>
>> ask nicely and they'll run Disk Warrior and do the backup for you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> rick wrote:
>>> try creating another user.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28 Jun 2007 02:34:45 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> My boss's kid spilled something into his Mac. I had put an XP partition
> on
>>>> it for him to play games. That boots fine, the OS X partition does not.
> It
>>>> looks to me like a boot loader issue, because I can select the OS X partition
>>>> as the boot device but it chunks and then boots into XP anyway. I'd like
>>>> to mount the OS X partition to back up data before sending it to Apple
> to
>>>> get worked on. Can I mount that partition in XP? If so, how?
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>Hey all! What are you (or a band you know) doing to handle multiple keyboards?
I currently am running 4 separate lines into Paris for 2 separate keybaords,
but I want to reduce that to 2 (stereo) AND without spending an arm and a
leg. I see the cheap Behringer mixer, but they have TOO much stuff on them
and I am worried about noise. I look though the online music stores and
I can't seem to find anything that I am looking for... and I am not sure
what I am looking for exactly. I'd like it to have 4 1/4" inputs from the
keyboards, able to mix those 4 in a stereo and have both a XLR and 1/4" stereo
output, be small enough to mount on a keyboard stand.. and be cute too!
lol.
Any suggestions?Another fine idea to be sure, but this assumes I have a 'good Mac' which naturally
I don't. But thanks for trying, I bought the Mac Drive software and it seems
to be working now.
TCB
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>No problem, here's another nifty alternative:
>
>Connect the hosed mac (H) to a good mac (G) via firewire.
>
>Start G if it's not already running. Then start H while holding down the
>T key. This will put it into firewire target disk mode and the drives on
>H will appear on the desktop of G.
>
>Copy your data, run Disk Warrior, whatever you need.
>
>Detailed instructions:
>
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583<
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mp; orange knobs -
I forget which series they're calling them. They're cheap AND
quiet!
Neil
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>THAT'S what I am looking for... but now, where to find these little creatures.
> Well, guess I'll start with sorry ebay, but I prefer a REAL vendor. I
have
>too many nightmares from ebay.
>
>In fact, I think I have one of these and will have to dig through the garage.
> Bought it long time ago and never found a use for it.
>
>Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions.... ~ Ed
>
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>I have no idea who makes them, but passive mixers can do what you want
>>and are very small and cheap and clean and you don't have to plug them
>>into the wall = better for the environment. ;-)
>>
>>Ed wrote:
>>> Hey all! What are you (or a band you know) doing to handle multiple
keyboards?
>>> I currently am running 4 separate lines into Paris for 2 separate keybaords,
>>> but I want to reduce that to 2 (stereo) AND without spending an arm and
>a
>>> leg. I see the cheap Behringer mixer, but they have TOO much stuff on
>them
>>> and I am worried about noise. I look though the online music stores
and
>>> I can't seem to find anything that I am looking for... and I am not
sure
>>> what I am looking for exactly. I'd like it to have 4 1/4" inputs from
>the
>>> keyboards, able to mix those 4 in a stereo and have both a XLR and 1/4"
>stereo
>>> output, be small enough to mount on a keyboard stand.. and be cute too!
>
>>> lol.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>DJ doesn't do free.
It has to cost at least $5000 and only work if it's tied to 12 other pieces
of hardware each cost the price of a small car. They must all have different
sync standards and dither algorithms so there's no chance of getting an output.
heheOh good. Glad I spent the extra $300 on the quad. I wonder if these
errata are responsible for some of the weird bugs people are having on
Core2 DAW machines? Sometimes I think it's amazing that computers work
at all.
Graham
TCB wrote:
> It looks worse than we realized. This is from Theo de Raadt, one of the true
> alpha geeks in the world. He's the main man behind OpenBSD and also the maintainer
> of SSH, so he knows a bit about 'puters.
>
> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631
>
> TCBI think around 3k. I think these could be a great option when they get
bigger.
Graham
Bill L wrote:
> What do they cost?I looked at the list and while I'm no Theo de Raadt (who is?) none of them
looked particularly audio related. I think 99.999% of DAW problems are either
pilot error, dirty software installs, or bad drivers.
TCB
Graham Duncan <graham&
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