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OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89418] Fri, 07 September 2007 08:16 Go to next message
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Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89420 is a reply to message #89418] Fri, 07 September 2007 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89422 is a reply to message #89418] Fri, 07 September 2007 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89426 is a reply to message #89422] Fri, 07 September 2007 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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d off big chunks of THREE fingers on his left hand. Index/middle
at about the first knuckle and ring just above that knuckle. Of course he
assumed he couldn't ever play for real again but it took him a couple of
months at most after he had healed and he was playing essentially indistinguishably
from before the accident. I was amazed, but not nearly as relieved as he
was.

3. Django Reinhardt.

Good luck, and glad it's nothing worse than it is,

TCB

"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I guess a little background is in order... for awhile now I've
>had this (what I and three Dr.'s thought was) an infection on
>my right index finger underneath the nail... tried a number of
>things attacking both viral and bacterial possibilities - never
>healed. Got referred to a different dermatologist last week &
>he examined it & immediately wanted to take a biopsy - lab
>results came back today: Squamus-Cell skin cancer. It's
>confirmed - he got five different opinions on it. So now I have
>to lose all or part of that finger.
>
>Good news is, of course, this is nothing life-threatening or
>anything like that - I mean, it's just a finger, and this type
>of cancer is very unlikely to spread. Bad news is - well, it's
>what you hold the guitar pick with, so SOMETHING's gonna have
>to change there... i'm sure i'll still be able to play, but
>probably not like I can now. Right-hand stuff on the keyboard's
>gonna be even tougher, since that's not my main instrument
>to begin with, but it's what I mostly write on. Anyway, it's
>not like I'm losing a whole hand, I'm just a bit pissed (OK,
>MASSIVELY pissed) that I'm not going to be able to play
>anything at the level I currently am able to - in which case,
>what's the point?
>
>Anyway, here's the Weird Question part: I'm going in for the
>surgical consult on Tuesday, and the Doc is going to give me
>three different options, essentially (he gave me a run-down
>over the phone) and what I need to decide is "How much of my
>finger do I want to lose?" The least-invasive is a thing called
>Mohs' Surgery, for which he has a specialist at his practice
>(whom I'll get to talk to on Tuesday). It takes off the least
>amount of tissue, and in the case of my particular situation,
>wouldn't remove any bone, either. Two other options would
>involve complete surgical romoval of a portion of the entire
>section of the finger, down past the first joint, or even
>further.
>SO... the wierd question is: Do any of you know any musicians
>with a prosthetic finger? Doesn't matter what instrument they
>play at this stage, I'm just trying to get an idea of if I have
>to make a choice of losing a small part of it or losing a
>larger part of it, which is better when it comes to a
>prosthesis, because I want to look into that, as well. The Doc
>says any of these methods would work in my case, because of
>where it's located & that it's still small in size & hasn't
>spread much, so I don't really have to be concerned
>about "which one will be most effective?" IOW, I need to find
>out how much is not enough, how much is too much, and how much
>is "just right" for being able to effectively employ a
>prosthesis from a musician's standpoint. Might help me make a
>more educated decision.
>
>Anyway, if anybody knows of anyone, that'd be great; I'd sure
>appreciate it. Lemme know!
>
>NeilSo, get a regular supply and find an old drive to throw in there to
spin... doesn't even have to have a data cable connected. Got an old 6
gig laying around? ;-)

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Ya, the ones on their sight starting at $249...
>
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net <mailto:ask_me@nospam.net>> wrote in
> message news:470e3b23@linux...
> I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended
> replacements.
> Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use
> some 12V
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Mike,
> > What power supply did you replace yours with?
> > I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
> > handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
> >
> > I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
> > Tom
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message
> news:470e0686$1@linux...
> >
> > Tom, that totally sucks!
> >
> > My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't
> > start at
> > all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
> >
> > If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can
> handle having
> > no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >I can't believe this one but . . .=20
> > >
> > >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > >if I baby it.
> > >
> >
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89428 is a reply to message #89418] Fri, 07 September 2007 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't see
> > anything
> > >about that in the manual.
> > >
> > >? ? ?
> > >
> > >Why Me???
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
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> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
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> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one
> but . . . =
> > ></FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
> > Magma for
> > =
> > >
> > >years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep
> running. This =
> > >began tonight=20
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> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a
> 1 Mec =
> > >setup. The=20
> > >Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split
> second
> > then
> > =
> > >stop. =20
> > >I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might
> still work =
> > >with all 5=20
> > >cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to
> unplug,
> > wait, =
> > >replug and=20
> > >start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up
> with one Mec =
> > >then. I=20
> > >thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism
> built
> > in to =
> > >th
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89429 is a reply to message #89428] Fri, 07 September 2007 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> > >Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the
> > manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
> > spam, =
> > >and=20
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> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >ooorrr.. spend $2 at Radio Shack for a resister to load down the 12vdc line?
AA


"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:470e5fec$1@linux...
> So, get a regular supply and find an old drive to throw in there to
> spin... doesn't even have to have a data cable connected. Got an old 6
> gig laying around? ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> Ya, the ones on their sight starting at $249...
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net <mailto:ask_me@nospam.net>> wrote in
>> message news:470e3b23@linux...
>> I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended
>> replacements.
>> Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use
>> some 12V
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> > Mike,
>> > What power supply did you replace yours with?
>> > I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
>> > handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
>> > > I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message
>> news:470e0686$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Tom, that totally sucks!
>> >
>> > My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead -
>> wouldn't
>> > start at
>> > all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>> >
>> > If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can
>> handle havin
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89430 is a reply to message #89422] Fri, 07 September 2007 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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>> > no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>
>> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I can't believe this one but . . .=20
>> > >
>> > >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
>> > >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
>> > >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
>> > >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
>> > >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1
>> Mec
>> > >if I baby it.
>> > >
>> > >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start
>> again.
>> > >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there
>> was=20
>> > >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't
>> see
>> > anything
>> > >about that in the manual.
>> > >
>> > >? ? ?
>> > >
>> > >Why Me???
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html > >
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>> > ><HTML><HEAD>
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>> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
>> > ></HEAD>
>> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one
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>> > ></FONT></DIV>
>> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89433 is a reply to message #89418] Fri, 07 September 2007 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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wrote:
> > Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
> >> How about Django? He was a violinist and lost 5/8 of his left hand
> >> fingers and switched to guitar. Good move for him!
> >>
> >> I would go for the least removal option. If you practice a couple hours
> >
> >> a day you will be playing at your previous level in just a few weeks.
> >>
> >> I pick with the reverse grip, similar to Benson, Dimeola. I am guessing
> >
> >> you are a conventional picker, resting the pick on the flat side of your
> >
> >> index? You could just switch to the "bird" giving finger if you had to.
> >>
> >> I once learned to pick the conventional way in about a month, but then
> >> realized it was not as good a method.
> >>
> >> Yes, it's a big-assed bummer, but you will be fine and if you practice
> >> hard you might even become a modern day Django! Just think of the press
> >
> >> release you can write for your next album, "Guitarist overcomes CANCER
> >> to make greatest album of his career!"
> >
> > That would be tacky & exploitive and an insult to all the
> > people that have a serious type of cancer.
> >
> > NeilHey Folks... gotta question concerning the 8 out card. Since I never had
one and always planned to get one... I am not sure how they work concerning
mixing... If I have a song with 16 complete tracks recorded. And I have
one 8 out card... can I somehow send those 16 tracks out the one 8 out card?

Or another words, can I place more than one output track to one channel on
the 8 out? I hope I'm not confusing things... OR, if I have 16 tracks of
a song, must I get two 8 out cards in order to get all 16 tracks out through
the cards?

tia... ~ EdYou can assign aux sends to the 8 out card. With two cards you could
get 16 discrete outputs using all 8 aux sends. With only one card, you
would have to do some pre-mixing. The 8 out card can also be assigned
to the monitor/mix outs to take advantage of the 24 bit convertors.

David.

Ed wrote:
> Hey Folks... gotta question concerning the 8 out card. Since I never had
> one and always planned to get one... I am not sure how they work concerning
> mixing... If I have a song with 16 complete tracks recorded. And I have
> one 8 out card... can I somehow send those 16 tracks out the one 8 out card?
>
> Or another words, can I place more than one output track to one channel on
> the 8 out? I hope I'm not confusing things... OR, if I have 16 tracks of
> a song, must I get two 8 out cards in order to get all 16 tracks out through
> the cards?
>
> tia... ~ Ed
>Could use the ADAT card(s) too for 8 in /out.... if you need or want digital....


EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>You can assign aux sends to the 8 out card. With two cards you could
>get 16 discrete outputs using all 8 aux sends. With only one card, you

>would have to do some pre-mixing. The 8 out card can also be assigned
>to the monitor/mix outs to take advantage of the 24 bit convertors.
>
>David.
>
>Ed wrote:
>> Hey Folks... gotta question concerning the 8 out card. Since I never
had
>> one and always planned to get one... I am not sure how they work concerning
>> mixing... If I have a song with 16 complete tracks recorded. And I have
>> one 8 out card... can I somehow send those 16 tracks out the one 8 out
card?
>>
>> Or another words, can I place more than one output track to one channel
on
>> the 8 out? I hope I'm not confusing things... OR, if I have 16 tracks
of
>> a song, must I get two 8 out cards in order to get all 16 tracks out through
>> the cards?
>>
>> tia... ~ Ed
>>Wow - have to keep up on things here - Paris lives still (again) - glad I
still use it!!!

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi John,
>
>Thanks for the support! I took a look at the eventiter code, and it already
>assumes 44.1 for its calculations, so unless you're working at 48k, a sample
>rate fix won't help the sound.
>
>Does it get grainy just at high input volumes? I could probably add a input
>gain knob, if it doesn't already have one. I bought a copy of it back in
>the day, but I don't use that type of effect much, so I'm not that familiar
>with it.
>
>I've been hacking DSP code regularly these days, but I still can't read
most
>of it. I doubt I'd be able to improve the algorithm itself (at least not
>until I can figure out more of the ESP assembler syntax).
>
>Let me know what you think.
>
>Mike
>
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89434 is a reply to message #89422] Fri, 07 September 2007 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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>> wrote:
>>
>>Finally got the chance to download and just sent you a PP donation--keep
>up
>>the great work! How 'bout that Eventiter...:)
>>
>>
>>
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>>Thanks for offering to donate and for letting me know about this. I just
>>>tried recreating the buttons, but they still don't work. We'll see what
>>Paypal
>>>has to say.
>>>
>>>My email address is Mike AT MikeAudet DOT COM.
>>>
>>>Cheers!
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>what email address do I send paypal to bro? the ensoniq.ca page is taking
>>>me
>>>>to an errored out paypal webpage.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470d92dd$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yo!
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Ducker" is now posted at www.ensoniq.ca for your downloading
>>>>> pleasure.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Ducker is the first side chain compressor for the PARIS system.
>
>>Based
>>>>> on the PARIS Compressor, it compresses the left signal based on the
>right
>>>>> input, allowing for ducking or creating new sounds by altering the
side
>>>
>>>>> chain
>>>>> signal with eq or distortion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>But oh so stable for Paris - I still use 98 and never have any issues except
installing 98 on a PC is a pain in the A%**^* until you have all the PC drivers
(if they are aval still)....

"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>"Why on earth are you still running ME?
>It is a dinosaur by today's standards."
>
>Hey---I resemble that...)
>
>
>
>
>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>I ran Paris for years on XP, and never, never had any issues apart from
>the
>>lack of Paris functionality for my needs
>>--
>>Martin Harrington
>>Lend An Ear Sound
>>Sydney Australia
>>0414 913 247
>>"Kerr Mathieson" <oneninehundred@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>news:470dd6e1$1@linux...
>>> I'm using ME 'cause I k
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89435 is a reply to message #89430] Fri, 07 September 2007 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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now it runs Paris fine. I only use this machine
>
>>> for paris and cubase, that's it. guess I might have to consider moving
>to
>>> XP if I can be sure Paris runs ok
>>>
>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>> news:470d66c5@linux...
>>>> Why on earth are you still running ME?
>>>> It is a dinosaur by today's standards.
>>>>
>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>> Lend An Ear Sound
>>>> Sydney, Australia
>>>> 0414913247
>>>>
>>>> "Kerr Mathieson" <oneninehundred@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:470d4c41$1@linux...
>>>>> yeah, I double checked and checked again (and then once more!), they're
>
>>>>> in the same plugins folder as everything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I knew the .dll files were library files, which is what confused me
>the
>>>>> most about the wavelab message lol!
>>>>>
>>>>> Think I'll download them in all forms and unpack/i
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89436 is a reply to message #89428] Fri, 07 September 2007 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nstall and see what
>
>>>>> happens. Still think it might be something to do with running ME
>>>>> though, 'cause the modern site says 2000/XP for system req.
>>>>>
>>>>> hmmmmm
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neil" <IOOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:470d3717$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kerr Mathieson" <oneninehundred@virgin.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>Hi neil,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I downloaded the pack with the installer in it and it seemed to unrar
>>>>>>>properly,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>then the exe file seemed to install properly as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've just discovered that when I boot up Wavelab, it tries to
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89437 is a reply to message #89426] Fri, 07 September 2007 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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run
the
>
>>>>>>>plug
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ins too and keeps giving me a message that there's a library file

>>>>>>>missing,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>for every modern plug in. wierd. there's only a .dll file for each
>
>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>came from the exe file, so I'm kinda stuck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In that case, I have a feeling that you may have installed them
>>>>>> into the wrong vstplugins folder. Is that possible? Do you have
>>>>>> more than one of those on your hard drive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A .dll file IS a library file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>> All types of Audio Post
>>>
>>
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David,
The supply I pulled from the Magma did not look stock. it
looked like a cheap 400 watt mongral.

I just bought an Antec 550. It is modular in that you only attach
the cables that are needed. It seems to me that that supply will
be able to run with or without anything attached to it.

Does my thinking stand to reason?
Powerlessly,
Tom


"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:470e3b23@linux...
I would contact Magma and see if they have any recommended =
replacements.=20
Failing that, you may have to mount a hard drive in the case to use=20
some 12V

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Mike,
> What power supply did you replace yours with?
> I'm not sure how to find out which will and will not
> handle 'no load' on the 12v side.
> =20
> I'm looking for something heafty in the 600watt+ range.
> Tom
>=20
> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message =
news:470e0686$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, that totally sucks!
>=20
> My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was completely dead - wouldn't
> start at
> all. No sounds, no fans, no nothin'.
>=20
> If you do replace it, just make sure you get a PS that can =
handle having
> no 12 volt load. You may have to get an older one.
>=20
> Good luck!
>=20
> Mike
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> =
wrote:
> >
> >
> >I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> >I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> >start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> >I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> >would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> >power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> >if I baby it.
> >
> >Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> >Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D20
> >a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see
> anything
> >about that in the manual.
> >
> >? ? ?
> >
> >Why Me???
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The supply I pulled from the Magma did =
not look=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looked like a cheap 400 watt =
mongral.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just bought an Antec 550.&nbsp; It is =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does my thinking stand to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powerlessly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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tact=20
Magma and see if they have any recommended replacements. <BR>&nbsp; =
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<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My Magma PS went bad, too, but it was =

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------=_NextPart_000_017C_01C80C21.0F508B50--Hello!

I often use the "Render Selection to disk" function to set a single track
containing multiple object as a single one.

I currently have a project with 5 tracks, all tracks contain multiple
objects and all track have their own audio level.

Is there a Paris Command that Flattens all the The tracks to a single WAV
file while keeping the Audio level ratio between the 5 tracks...

Hope you can help!

NJNot that I'm aware of other than doing a mixdown

or

placing all your tracks on to one track (yet it;s a nightmare) and render
that track

Then again I might be wrong

D

"Webbit" <webbit@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:470e9c61$1@linux...
> Hello!
>
> I often use the "Render Selection to disk" function to set a single track
> containing multiple object as a single one.
>
> I currently have a project with 5 tracks, all tracks contain multiple
> objects and all track have their own audio level.
>
> Is there a Paris Command that Flattens all the The tracks to a single WAV
> file while keeping the Audio level ratio between the 5 tracks...
>
> Hope you can help!
>
> NJ
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Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.

I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the far =
left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.

Everything is broken it seems.
Tom

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20

I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.

Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.

? ? ?

Why Me???


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem.&nbsp; Just installed a new =
Antec 550=20
watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma.&nbsp; It =
will run=20
with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP boots and =
screws the=20
whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards =
but what=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak?&nbsp; Fans are =
cooling=20
well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =
?&nbsp; Maybe=20
3 . . . ?&nbsp; The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn.&nbsp; Are there Magma =
drivers?&nbsp; If so=20
I'd need older ones.&nbsp; The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
mine is.&nbsp;=20
It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card.&nbsp; The newer =
one's&nbsp;slot=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by =
my master=20
card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . . =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
for=20
years.&nbsp; Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running.&nbsp; This =
began=20
tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
setup.&nbsp; The=20
Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
then=20
stop.&nbsp; I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply.&nbsp; It might still =
work with all=20
5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, =
replug and=20
start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
then.&nbsp; I=20
thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built in to =
the=20
Magma.&nbsp; I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Another thing,
My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo power connector
but 3 x hard drive type connectors that go to the Mobo.
Not sure if this means anything.
Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec023$1@linux...
Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.

I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the far =
left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.

Everything is broken it seems.
Tom

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20

I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. N
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ow it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.

Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.

? ? ?

Why Me???


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo =
power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type connectors that =
go to the=20
Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:470ec023$1@linux">news:470ec023$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem.&nbsp; Just installed a =
new Antec 550=20
watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma.&nbsp; =
It will run=20
with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
and screws the=20
whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards but what=20
else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak?&nbsp; Fans =
are cooling=20
well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =
?&nbsp;=20
Maybe 3 . . . ?&nbsp; The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn.&nbsp; Are there Magma =
drivers?&nbsp; If so=20
I'd need older ones.&nbsp; The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
mine=20
is.&nbsp; It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card.&nbsp; The newer=20
one's&nbsp;slot #s&nbsp;go 1-13 rt to left as you face the =
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by my master=20
card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . .=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
for=20
years.&nbsp; Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running.&nbsp; =
This began=20
tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
setup.&nbsp;=20
The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
then=20
stop.&nbsp; I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply.&nbsp; It might still =
work with=20
all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, =
wait, replug=20
and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
then.&nbsp;=20
I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built in =
to the=20
Magma.&nbsp; I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C80C45.0730E220--I rest my case, Gentlemen, (and Lady).
--
Martin Harrington
Lend An Ear Sound
Sydney Australia
0414 913 247
"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:470e8363$1@linux...
>
> But oh so stable for Paris - I still use 98 and never have any issues
> except
> installing 98 on a PC is a pain in the A%**^* until you have all the PC
> drivers
> (if they are aval still)....
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Why on earth are you still running ME?
>>It is a dinosaur by today's standards."
>>
>>Hey---I resemble that...)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>I ran Paris for years on XP, and never, never had any issues apart from
>>the
>>>lack of Paris functionality for my needs
>>>--
>>>Martin Harrington
>>>Lend An Ear Sound
>>>Sydney Australia
>>>0414 913 247
>>>"Kerr Mathieson" <oneninehundred@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>>news:470dd6e1$1@linux...
>>>> I'm using ME 'cause I know it runs Paris fine. I only use this machine
>>
>>>> for paris and cubase, that's it. guess I might have to consider moving
>>to
>>>> XP if I can be sure Paris runs ok
>>>>
>>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:470d66c5@linux...
>>>>> Why on earth are you still running ME?
>>>>> It is a dinosaur by today's standards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>>> Lend An Ear Sound
>>>>> Sydney, Australia
>>>>> 0414913247
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kerr Mathieson" <oneninehundred@virgin.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:470d4c41$1@linux...
>>>>>> yeah, I double checked and checked again (and then once more!),
>>>>>> they're
>>
>>>>>> in the same plugins folder as everything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I knew the .dll files were library files, which is what confused me
>>the
>>>>>> most about the wavelab message lol!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think I'll download them in all forms and unpack/install and see what
>>
>>>>>> happens. Still think it might be something to do with running ME
>>>>>> though, 'cause the modern site says 2000/XP for system req.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmmmmm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <IOOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:470d3717$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kerr Mathieson" <oneninehundred@virgin.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hi neil,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I downloaded the pack with the installer in it and it seemed to
>>>>>>>>unrar
>>>>>>>>properly,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>then the exe file seemed to install properly as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've just discovered that when I boot up Wavelab, it tries to run
> the
>>
>>>>>>>>plug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ins too and keeps giving me a message that there's a library file
>
>>>>>>>>missing,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>for every modern plug in. wierd. there's only a .dll file for each
>>
>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>came from the exe file, so I'm kinda stuck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In that case, I have a feeling that you may have installed them
>>>>>>> into the wrong vstplugins folder. Is that possible? Do you have
>>>>>>> more than one of those on your hard drive?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A .dll file IS a library file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>> All types of Audio Post
>>>>
>>>
>>
>All the best, Neil.
--
Martin Harrington
Lend An Ear Sound
Sydney Australia
0414 913 247
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:470e1513$1@linux...
>
> Good luck
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le shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.

I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
far left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
you face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.

Everything is broken it seems.
Tom

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20

I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.

Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.

? ? ?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another thing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo =
power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type connectors =
that go to the=20
Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:470ec023$1@linux">news:470ec023$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem.&nbsp; Just installed a =
new Antec=20
550 watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma.&nbsp; It will=20
run with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
and screws=20
the whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards but what=20
else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak?&nbsp; Fans =
are cooling=20
well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS =
then ?&nbsp;=20
Maybe 3 . . . ?&nbsp; The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn.&nbsp; Are there Magma =
drivers?&nbsp; If=20
so I'd need older ones.&nbsp; The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
mine=20
is.&nbsp; It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card.&nbsp; The newer =

one's&nbsp;slot #s&nbsp;go 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging =
by my=20
master card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . =
..=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma for=20
years.&nbsp; Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running.&nbsp; =
This began=20
tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
setup.&nbsp;=20
The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
then=20
stop.&nbsp; I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply.&nbsp; It might =
still work with=20
all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, =
wait, replug=20
and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one =
Mec=20
then.&nbsp; I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built =
in to the=20
Magma.&nbsp; I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C80C42.4281B230--Last Sunday, I attended the melodicrock.com 10th anniversary concert
in South Bend, Indiana.

Artists performing included Kevin Chalfant, Jeff Scott Soto, and Scrap
Metal, an all-star band composed of Matthew and Gunnar Nelson, Kelly
Keagy from Night Ranger, Eric Martin from Mr. Big, and Mark Slaughter
from Slaughter.

Special guests during the Scrap Metal gig included Jim Peterik and
Jimi Jamison, Jack Blades, and Joe Lynn Turner.

Now, keep in mind that back in the 80's and early '90's, these guys
were the bands I was listening to. I would have given anything to
just shake their hands. If you had told me that now I'd be hanging
around with them, or if any of them would have given me their home
phone numbers.... I'd have said you were effin' nuts.

I actually went with Peterik, so, as his personal roadie I got to say,
"I'm with him" and actually mean it.... ;-P

Plus, I got to hang backstage and in the dressing room.

I got to listen to those guys working out the harmonies on songs that
I listened to all the time - in fact, still do. Gave me chills to
hear Turner working out the harmonies to Rainbow songs....

And this was really the first time, aside from a World Stage show in
Belgium, that Peterik and Jamison have performed on stage together
since Jim left Survivor in 1990. The crowd went insane.

I also shot roughly 542 photos between the dressing/rehearsal room and
during the show.

After I offloaded my camera and browsed through all of the images, I
suddenly realized something. There are zero photos of me with the
stars.

I guess my relationship with Jim has conditioned me to the point where
I'm still fan enough to ask for autographs (you should see the walls
of my hallway - LP frames from Michael's are my friend -- but
apparently now asking to pose for photos with them is something I feel
uncomfortable doing. I guess I want to be accepted as a normal guy --
I definitely don't want to abuse my friendship with Jim and risk being
embarassing. I kinda enjoy having the chance to just stand around and
talk to these guys like real people, and I like to think they
appreciate that as well.

So, if any of you ask for proof that I was actually there, and not
just making this up, you'll just have to take my word for it.

pabSounds like fun. Tell Jim I said Hi when you see him again.
Rod
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Last Sunday, I attended the melodicrock.com 10th anniversary concert
>in South Bend, Indiana.
>
>Artists performing included Kevin Chalfant, Jeff Scott Soto, and Scrap
>Metal, an all-star band composed of Matthew and Gunnar Nelson, Kelly
>Keagy from Night Ranger, Eric Martin from Mr. Big, and Mark Slaughter
>from Slaughter.
>
>Special guests during the Scrap Metal gig included Jim Peterik and
>Jimi Jamison, Jack Blades, and Joe Lynn Turner.
>
>Now, keep in mind that back in the 80's and early '90's, these guys
>were the bands I was listening to. I would have given anything to
>just shake their hands. If you had told me that now I'd be hanging
>around with them, or if any of them would have given me their home
>phone numbers.... I'd have said you were effin' nuts.
>
>I actually went with Peterik, so, as his personal roadie I got to say,
>"I'm with him" and actually mean it.... ;-P
>
>Plus, I got to hang backstage and in the dressing room.
>
>I got to listen to those guys working out the harmonies on songs that
>I listened to all the time - in fact, still do. Gave me chills to
>hear Turner working out the harmonies to Rainbow songs....
>
>And this was really the first time, aside from a World Stage show in
>Belgium, that Peterik
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and Jamison have performed on stage together
>since Jim left Survivor in 1990. The crowd went insane.
>
>I also shot roughly 542 photos between the dressing/rehearsal room and
>during the show.
>
>After I offloaded my camera and browsed through all of the images, I
>suddenly realized something. There are zero photos of me with the
>stars.
>
>I guess my relationship with Jim has conditioned me to the point where
>I'm still fan enough to ask for autographs (you should see the walls
>of my hallway - LP frames from Michael's are my friend -- but
>apparently now asking to pose for photos with them is something I feel
>uncomfortable doing. I guess I want to be accepted as a normal guy --
>I definitely don't want to abuse my friendship with Jim and risk being
>embarassing. I kinda enjoy having the chance to just stand around and
>talk to these guys like real people, and I like to think they
>appreciate that as well.
>
>So, if any of you ask for proof that I was actually there, and not
>just making this up, you'll just have to take my word for it.
>
>pabIf you're jaded, I must be way beyond that... I've never
asked anyone for an autograph, or a picture, anything like that.

Neil


Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Last Sunday, I attended the melodicrock.com 10th anniversary concert
>in South Bend, Indiana.
>
>Artists performing included Kevin Chalfant, Jeff Scott Soto, and Scrap
>Metal, an all-star band composed of Matthew and Gunnar Nelson, Kelly
>Keagy from Night Ranger, Eric Martin from Mr. Big, and Mark Slaughter
>from Slaughter.
>
>Special guests during the Scrap Metal gig included Jim Peterik and
>Jimi Jamison, Jack Blades, and Joe Lynn Turner.
>
>Now, keep in mind that back in the 80's and early '90's, these guys
>were the bands I was listening to. I would have given anything to
>just shake their hands. If you had told me that now I'd be hanging
>around with them, or if any of them would have given me their home
>phone numbers.... I'd have said you were effin' nuts.
>
>I actually went with Peterik, so, as his personal roadie I got to say,
>"I'm with him" and actually mean it.... ;-P
>
>Plus, I got to hang backstage and in the dressing room.
>
>I got to listen to those guys working out the harmonies on songs that
>I listened to all the time - in fact, still do. Gave me chills to
>hear Turner working out the harmonies to Rainbow songs....
>
>And this was really the first time, aside from a World Stage show in
>Belgium, that Peterik and Jamison have performed on stage together
>since Jim left Survivor in 1990. The crowd went insane.
>
>I also shot roughly 542 photos between the dressing/rehearsal room and
>during the show.
>
>After I offloaded my camera and browsed through all of the images, I
>suddenly realized something. There are zero photos of me with the
>stars.
>
>I guess my relationship with Jim has conditioned me to the point where
>I'm still fan enough to ask for autographs (you should see the walls
>of my hallway - LP frames from Michael's are my friend -- but
>apparently now asking to pose for photos with them is something I feel
>uncomfortable doing. I guess I want to be accepted as a normal guy --
>I definitely don't want to abuse my friendship with Jim and risk being
>embarassing. I kinda enjoy having the chance to just stand around and
>talk to these guys like real people, and I like to think they
>appreciate that as well.
>
>So, if any of you ask for proof that I was actually there, and not
>just making this up, you'll just have to take my word for it.
>
>pabOn 12 Oct 2007 12:52:12 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
<rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:

>
>Sounds like fun. Tell Jim I said Hi when you see him again.
>Rod

Will do.

And BTW - I had a talk with Kevin - apparently the SS gig turned into
a one-off for the album sessions, and then he was let go....

Sadly, not all the musicians I like seem to be decent guys in real
life.

But then, you already know that...

:-(

And I've decided I hate Eric Martin. Little fucker looks like a
20-year old kid. Still sings as well as he ever did. In fact, when I
first saw him in the dressing room, and he said, "Hi, I'm Eric", I
thought, "Eric who? He can't be old enough to be Eric Martin..."

Looked him up. He was born in 1960. Bastard is two years older than
me.

I'd really hate him if he hadn't been such a nice guy to me.

;-P

pabOn 12 Oct 2007 13:07:28 +1000, "Neil" <IOUIU@OIU.com> wrote:

>
>If you're jaded, I must be way beyond that... I've never
>asked anyone for an autograph, or a picture, anything like that.
>
>Neil
>

I like the autographs (mostly on album covers) because somehow I think
it's cool. I've got a copy of "News of the World" signed by Brian
May. I've got an album signed by Harry Chapin. And my "Bat Out of
Hell" picture disc is signed by Meat, Kasim Sulton, Rundgren, and
Steinman. I just get pleasure out of looking at the walls in the
"Rock Hall" in our house. And aside from the Chapin and the copy of
"The Who By Numbers" signed by all 4 original guys, they're all
signatures I've gotten in person from guys I've met and talked to. I
allow myself some slack on the Chapin, since my wife saw him a bunch
of times and has a book of his poetry that he signed to her.

I guess I figured I was lucky to be there - I was just going to take
photos that Andrew (promoter) could use later on his website, and I
really had no place in them.

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I hear ya Aaron. I am going to trouble shoot the eds cards again
then I'll send the Magma to Magma. If that doesn't answer some=20
questions then Chris will get the call. I hate to bother him with this
trite Paris crap. There'd be a lot of shipping involved there too....
Thanks for the tip.
Tom



"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:470eca34@linux...
Tom, at this point I'd entertain sending that entire rig to Chris =
Ludwig, pay him for his experience/expertise, so you can get on with =
your life. Seriously. Life's too short bro.

AA

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec0b8@linux...
Another thing,
My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo power connector
but 3 x hard drive type connectors that go to the Mobo.
Not sure if this means anything.
Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec023$1@linux...
Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.

I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
far left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
you face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.

Everything is broken it seems.
Tom

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20

I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.

Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.

? ? ?

Why Me???


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hear ya Aaron.&nbsp; I am going to =
trouble shoot=20
the eds cards again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then I'll send the Magma to =
Magma.&nbsp; If that=20
doesn't answer some </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>questions then Chris will get the =
call.&nbsp; I=20
hate to bother him with this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>trite Paris crap.&nbsp; There'd be a =
lot of=20
shipping involved there too....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the tip.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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sending that=20
entire rig to Chris Ludwig, pay him for his =
experience/expertise,&nbsp;so you=20
can get on with your life.&nbsp; Seriously. Life's too short =
bro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin =
mobo power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type connectors =
that go to=20
the Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem.&nbsp; Just installed =
a new Antec=20
550 watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma.&nbsp; It will=20
run with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP =
boots and screws=20
the whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards but=20
what else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak?&nbsp; =
Fans are=20
cooling well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS =
then ?&nbsp;=20
Maybe 3 . . . ?&nbsp; The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn.&nbsp; Are there Magma =
drivers?&nbsp; If=20
so I'd need older ones.&nbsp; The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how =
old mine=20
is.&nbsp; It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card.&nbsp; The =
newer=20
one's&nbsp;slot #s&nbsp;go 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
judging by my=20
master card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . =
.. .=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma for=20
years.&nbsp; Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep =
running.&nbsp; This began=20
tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
Mec=20
setup.&nbsp; The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split =
second then=20
stop.&nbsp; I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply.&nbsp; It might =
still work=20
with all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, =
wait,=20
replug and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one =
Mec=20
then.&nbsp; I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built =
in to the=20
Magma.&nbsp; I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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It'd be cheaper and more fun to ship Chris here than ship this
pile to him.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470f1c52@linux...
I hear ya Aaron. I am going to trouble shoot the eds cards again
then I'll send the Magma to Magma. If that doesn't answer some=20
questions then Chris will get the call. I hate to bother him with =
this
trite Paris crap. There'd be a lot of shipping involved there too....
Thanks for the tip.
Tom



"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:470eca34@linux...
Tom, at this point I'd entertain sending that entire rig to Chris =
Ludwig, pay him for his experience/expertise, so you can get on with =
your life. Seriously. Life's too short bro.

AA

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec0b8@linux...
Another thing,
My Magma has not only the 20 pin mobo power connector
but 3 x hard drive type connectors that go to the Mobo.
Not sure if this means anything.
Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470ec023$1@linux...
Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made even
the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.

I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on =
the far left
for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left =
as you face the front.
I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.

Everything is broken it seems.
Tom

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470d9f41$1@linux...
I can't believe this one but . . .=20

I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
start up and keep running. This began tonight as
I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
if I baby it.

Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was =

a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
anything
about that in the manual.

? ? ?

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Magma.&nbsp; If that=20
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lot of=20
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Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89445 is a reply to message #89440] Fri, 07 September 2007 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, at this point I'd entertain =
sending that=20
entire rig to Chris Ludwig, pay him for his =
experience/expertise,&nbsp;so=20
you can get on with your life.&nbsp; Seriously. Life's too short=20
bro.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another thing,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My Magma has not only the 20 pin =
mobo power=20
connector</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but 3 x hard drive type =
connectors that go to=20
the Mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure if this means =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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wrote in=20
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=
href=3D"news:470ec023$1@linux">news:470ec023$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem.&nbsp; Just =
installed a new=20
Antec 550 watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma.&nbsp; It=20
will run with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP =
boots and=20
screws the whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of =
the cards but=20
what else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak?&nbsp; =
Fans are=20
cooling well too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken =
EDS then=20
?&nbsp; Maybe 3 . . . ?&nbsp; The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn.&nbsp; Are there Magma =
drivers?&nbsp;=20
If so I'd need older ones.&nbsp; The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how =
old mine=20
is.&nbsp; It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card.&nbsp; The =
newer=20
one's&nbsp;slot #s&nbsp;go 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
front.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
judging by my=20
master card placement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote in =

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but =
.. . .=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma for=20
years.&nbsp; Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep =
running.&nbsp; This=20
began tonight as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
Mec=20
setup.&nbsp; The Magma</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split =
second then=20
stop.&nbsp; I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply.&nbsp; It might =
still work=20
with all 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug, wait,=20
replug and start again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
one Mec=20
then.&nbsp; I thought there was </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
built in to the=20
Magma.&nbsp; I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
manual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:11:06 -0500, Paul Braun
<cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:

>Last Sunday, I attended the melodicrock.com 10th anniversary concert
>in South Bend, Indiana.
>
>Artists performing included Kevin Chalfant, Jeff Scott Soto, and Scrap
>Metal, an all-star band composed of Matthew and Gunnar Nelson, Kelly
>Keagy from Night Ranger, Eric Martin from Mr. Big, and Mark Slaughter
>from Slaughter.
>
>Special guests during the Scrap Metal gig included Jim Peterik and
>Jimi Jamison, Jack Blades, and Joe Lynn Turner.
>
>Now, keep in mind that back in the 80's and early '90's, these guys
>were the bands I was listening to. I would have given anything to
>just shake their hands. If you had told me that now I'd be hanging
>around with them, or if any of them would have given me their home
>phone numbers.... I'd have said you were effin' nuts.
>
>I actually went with Peterik, so, as his personal roadie I got to say,
>"I'm with him" and actually mean it.... ;-P
>
>Plus, I got to hang backstage and in the dressing room.
>
>I got to listen to those guys working out the harmonies on songs that
>I listened to all the time - in fact, still do. Gave me chills to
>hear Turner working out the harmonies to Rainbow songs....
>
>And this was really the first time, aside from a World Stage show in
>Belgium, that Peterik and Jamison have performed on stage together
>since Jim left Survivor in 1990. The crowd went insane.
>
>I also shot roughly 542 photos between the dressing/rehearsal room and
>during the show.
>
>After I offloaded my camera and browsed through all of the images, I
>suddenly realized something. There are zero photos of me with the
>stars.
>
>I guess my relationship with Jim has conditioned me to the point where
>I'm still fan enough to ask for autographs (you should see the walls
>of my hallway - LP frames from Michael's are my friend -- but
>apparently now asking to pose for photos with them is something I feel
>uncomfortable doing. I guess I want to be accepted as a normal guy --
>I definitely don't want to abuse my friendship with Jim and risk being
>embarassing. I kinda enjoy having the chance to just stand around and
>talk to these guys like real people, and I like to think they
>appreciate that as well.
>
>So, if any of you ask for proof that I was actually there, and not
>just making this up, you'll just have to take my word for it.
>
>pabNeil-

I'd think Sarah's idea would be good.

Hope all comes out ok.

-steve

Personally, I can't play with a pick to save my life. Drop in within minutes.



"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Hi Neil,
>
> No personal similar experiences to relate, but just in thinking about

>it, it seems that for maximum control and sensation post-surgery, you would

>want to preserve the bone.
>
> Actually, I broke my right index finger many years ago with gigs to

>play, and I got pretty good pretty fast at holding the pick with my middle,

>ring, and thumb ( I'm a 3 fingered pick holder, when I use them). Just
a
>thought.
>
> Sorry to hear about this, but glad that it's small and unlikely to
>metastasize. I'd be pissed, too. I hate when life throws stuff like this

>at us. But you sound positive and I think you'll do great.
>
>Hugs,
>
>Sarah
>
>"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:470da20c$1@linux...
>>
>> I guess a little background is in order... for awhile now I've
>> had this (what I and three Dr.'s thought was) an infection on
>> my right index finger underneath the nail... tried a number of
>> things attacking both viral and bacterial possibilities - never
>> healed. Got referred to a different dermatologist last week &
>> he examined it & immediately wanted to take a biopsy - lab
>> results came back today: Squamus-Cell skin cancer. It's
>> confirmed - he got five different opinions on it. So now I have
>> to lose all or part of that finger.
>>
>> Good news is, of course, this is nothing life-threatening or
>> anything like that - I mean, it's just a finger, and this type
>> of cancer is very unlikely to spread. Bad news is - well, it's
>> what you hold the guitar pick with, so SOMETHING's gonna have
>> to change there... i'm sure i'll still be able to play, but
>> probably not like I can now. Right-hand stuff on the keyboard's
>> gonna be even tougher, since that's not my main instrument
>> to begin with, but it's what I mostly write on. Anyway, it's
>> not like I'm losing a whole hand, I'm just a bit pissed (OK,
>> MASSIVELY pissed) that I'm not going to be able to play
>> anything at the level I currently am able to - in which case,
>> what's the point?
>>
>> Anyway, here's the Weird Question part: I'm going in for the
>> surgical consult on Tuesday, and the Doc is going to give me
>> three different options, essentially (he gave me a run-down
>> over the phone) and what I need to decide is "How much of my
>> finger do I want to lose?" The least-invasive is a thing called
>> Mohs' Surgery, for which he has a specialist at his practice
>> (whom I'll get to talk to on Tuesday). It takes off the least
>> amount of tissue, and in the case of my particular situation,
>> wouldn't remove any bone, either. Two other options would
>> involve complete surgical romoval of a portion of the entire
>> section of the finger, down past the first joint, or even
>> further.
>> SO... the wierd question is: Do any of you know any musicians
>> with a prosthetic finger? Doesn't matter what instrument they
>> play at this stage, I'm just trying to get an idea of if I have
>> to make a choice of losing a small part of it or losing a
>> larger part of it, which is better when it comes to a
>> prosthesis, because I want to look into that, as well. The Doc
>> says any of these methods would work in my case, because of
>> where it's located & that it's still small in size & hasn't
>> spread much, so I don't really have to be concerned
>> about "which one will be most effective?" IOW, I need to find
>> out how much is not enough, how much is too much, and how much
>> is "just right" for being able to effectively employ a
>> prosthesis from a musician's standpoint. Might help me make a
>> more educated decision.
>>
>> Anyway, if anybody knows of anyone, that'd be great; I'd sure
>> appreciate it. Lemme know!
>>
>> Neil
>
>Hi Tom,

I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.

I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, etc.,
until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the Magma,
I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may want to
test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that. It
sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a shit
when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens on
start up).

Good luck!

Mike


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
>New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
>then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.
>I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
>even
>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
>
>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The Magma
>tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the far =
>left
>for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
>face the front.
>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
>
>Everything is broken it seems.
>Tom
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:470d9f41$

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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem.  Just installed a new =
>Antec 550=20
>watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma.  It =
>will run=20
>with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP boots and
=
>screws the=20
>whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards
=
>but what=20
>else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak?  Fans are =
>cooling=20
>well too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =
>?  Maybe=20
>3 . . . ?  The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn.  Are there Magma =
>drivers?  If so=20
>I'd need older ones.  The Magma</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
>mine is. =20
>It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card.  The newer =
>one's slot=20
>#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite judging by
=
>my master=20
>card placement.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
>seems.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but . . . =
></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma =
>for=20
> years.  Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running.  This =
>began=20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
>setup.  The=20
> Magma</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
>then=20
> stop.  I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply.  It might still =
>work with all=20
> 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug, wait,
=
>replug and=20
> start again.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =
>then.  I=20
> thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built in to
=
>the=20
> Magma.  I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
>manual.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
=
>and=20
> you?<BR><A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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>
>I snuck into Stanley Turentine's area during a break and asked him to pose
with me for a picture which he did. He said "how did you get back here?".
I could tell he was very tired and hot and I felt terrible for doing it
when he just wanted a few minutes rest but it was too late, I was already
there.

About a month later he died. Talk about guilt !!

JohnPowerful message. Well worth 8 minutes of your time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfAMike--it's been a while since I used it but it seemed one side was kinda buggy...
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi John,
>>
>>Thanks for the support! I took a look at the eventiter code, and it already
>>assumes 44.1 for its calculations, so unless you're working at 48k, a sample
>>rate fix won't help the sound.
>>
>>Does it get grainy just at high input volumes? I could probably add a
input
>>gain knob, if it doesn't already have one. I bought a copy of it back
in
>>the day, but I don't use that type of effect much, so I'm not that familiar
>>with it.
>>
>>I've been hacking DSP code regularly these days, but I still can't read
>most
>>of it. I doubt I'd be able to improve the algorithm itself (at least not
>>until I can figure out more of the ESP assembler syntax).
>>
>>Let me know what you think.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Finally got the chance to download and just sent you a PP donation--keep
>>up
>>>the great work! How 'bout that Eventiter...:)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for offering to donate and for letting me know about this. I
just
>>>>tried recreating the buttons, but they still don't work. We'll see what
>>>Paypal
>>>>has to say.
>>>>
>>>>My email address is Mike AT MikeAudet DOT COM.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>what email address do I send paypal to bro? the ensoniq.ca page is taking
>>>>me
>>>>>to an errored out paypal webpage.
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470d92dd$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yo!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Ducker" is now posted at www.ensoniq.ca for your downloading

>>>>>> pleasure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Ducker is the first side chain compressor for the PARIS system.
>>
>>>Based
>>>>>> on the PARIS Compressor, it compresses the left signal based on the
>>right
>>>>>> input, allowing for ducking or creating new sounds by altering the
>side
>>>>
>>>>>> chain
>>>>>> signal with eq or distortion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi David,

I am not quite following what you wrote or suggest. But looking at your
response, I guess the answer to my question is... no, you can't send multiple
tracks to one channel on the 8-out.

I never used the aux sends and returns for anything... so that is new territory
for me. I like to keep things simple and not confuse my setup. I honestly
believe if I start routing things thru the aux's, I would lose track of what
is what. So I just do the normal recording. Or maybe I'll find a really
great deal on two 8-out cards someday...

EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>You can assign aux sends to the 8 out card. With two cards you could
>get 16 discrete outputs using all 8 aux sends. With only one card, you

>would have to do some pre-mixing. The 8 out card can also be assigned
>to the monitor/mix outs to take advantage of the 24 bit convertors.
>
>David.
>
>Ed wrote:
>> Hey Folks... gotta question concerning the 8 out card. Since I never
had
>> one and always planned to get one... I am not sure how they work concerning
>> mixing... If I have a song with 16 complete tracks recorded. And I have
>> one 8 out card... can I somehow send those 16 tracks out the one 8 out
card?
>>
>> Or another words, can I place more than one output track to one channel
on
>> the 8 out? I hope I'm not confusing things... OR, if I have 16 tracks
of
>> a song, must I get two 8 out cards in order to get all 16 tracks out through
>> the cards?
>>
>> tia... ~ Ed
>>Yeah, I heard about the Kevin C. thing. I could have bet money on that not
working out. He's too much of a real singer with a good head on his shoulders
for that to work out. At least he got paid for doing the record. I would
have liked to work with him, maybe someday.
Rod
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 12 Oct 2007 12:52:12 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Sounds like fun. Tell Jim I said Hi when you see him again.
>>Rod
>
>Will do.
>
>And BTW - I had a talk with Kevin - apparently the SS gig turned into
>a one-off for the album sessions, and then he was let go....
>
>Sadly, not all the musicians I like seem to be decent guys in real
>life.
>
>But then, you already know that...
>
>:-(
>
>And I've decided I hate Eric Martin. Little fucker looks like a
>20-year old kid. Still sings as well as he ever did. In fact, when I
>first saw him in the dressing room, and he said, "Hi, I'm Eric", I
>thought, "Eric who? He can't be old enough to be Eric Martin..."
>
>Looked him up. He was born in 1960. Bastard is two years older than
>me.
>
>I'd really hate him if he hadn't been such a nice guy to me.
>
>;-P
>
>pab"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:470f77dc$1@linux...
> Powerful message. Well worth 8 minutes of your time.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA

For some reason, I get cold chill down my back when I watch this. Part of it
is positive excitement because I really like the message, but part of it is
alarm because something about this guy reminds me of Jimmy
Carter..........the honesty part, I think. this was absolutely disastrous in
the foriegn policy realm. Many of our current woes reach back to his
blundering. In order to deal with a world full of snakes, can we depend on
someone who doesn't speak "snake"?......oh wait!!!!......he's been a sitting
congressman for a while.

Nevermind.He lost me the instant he put up the "don't tase me bro"
a**hole as an example of the loss of personal freedoms.

poof, gone.

DC


Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Powerful message. Well worth 8 minutes of your time.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfAYour system date is out.... AGAIN! ;-)

David.

DJ wrote:
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:470f77dc$
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target="_blank">1@linux...
>
>>Powerful message. Well worth 8 minutes of your time.
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
>
>
> For some reason, I get cold chill down my back when I watch this. Part of it
> is positive excitement because I really like the message, but part of it is
> alarm because something about this guy reminds me of Jimmy
> Carter..........the honesty part, I think. this was absolutely disastrous in
> the foriegn policy realm. Many of our current woes reach back to his
> blundering. In order to deal with a world full of snakes, can we depend on
> someone who doesn't speak "snake"?......oh wait!!!!......he's been a sitting
> congressman for a while.
>
> Nevermind.
>
>16 discrete outs means 1 to 1. Sending 16 individual channels out of Paris
would
require the equal amount of 16 individual physical connectors. You would
only need
to do this if you wanted to work with those 16 channels individually outside
of Paris. like you were mixing on an anolog console. Otherwise, the Aux way
of
doing things is really quite simple: On each channel strip turn on an Aux
send
(1 thru 8) and on the Aux output module (right side of the mixer) select
"External"
as the destination. Then you select how you want the channels sent ie, which
tracks can be grouped together, stereo pairs, drums, backgrouond vocals etc.
and send them out. The Aux module takes care of the returning of the signal.
The only confusing part is that the Aux module in the Patch bay is called
"Effects".

Ted


"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>Hi David,
>
> I am not quite following what you wrote or suggest. But looking at your
>response, I guess the answer to my question is... no, you can't send multiple
>tracks to one channel on the 8-out.
>
> I never used the aux sends and returns for anything... so that is new
territory
>for me. I like to keep things simple and not confuse my setup. I honestly
>believe if I start routing things thru the aux's, I would lose track of
what
>is what. So I just do the normal recording. Or maybe I'll find a really
>great deal on two 8-out cards someday...
>
>EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>You can assign aux sends to the 8 out card. With two cards you could
>>get 16 discrete outputs using all 8 aux sends. With only one card, you
>
>>would have to do some pre-mixing. The 8 out card can also be assigned

>>to the monitor/mix outs to take advantage of the 24 bit convertors.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Ed wrote:
>>> Hey Folks... gotta question concerning the 8 out card. Since I never
>had
>>> one and always planned to get one... I am not sure how they work concerning
>>> mixing... If I have a song with 16 complete tracks recorded. And I
have
>>> one 8 out card... can I somehow send those 16 tracks out the one 8 out
>card?
>>>
>>> Or another words, can I place more than one output track to one channel
>on
>>> the 8 out? I hope I'm not confusing things... OR, if I have 16 tracks
>of
>>> a song, must I get two 8 out cards in order to get all 16 tracks out
through
>>> the cards?
>>>
>>> tia... ~ Ed
>>>
>Hope things go well, Neil. I have no advice, but I'll be thinking of you.

Ted


"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I guess a little background is in order... for awhile now I've
>had this (what I and three Dr.'s thought was) an infection on
>my right index finger underneath the nail... tried a number of
>things attacking both viral and bacterial possibilities - never
>healed. Got referred to a different dermatologist last week &
>he examined it & immediately wanted to take a biopsy - lab
>results came back today: Squamus-Cell skin cancer. It's
>confirmed - he got five different opinions on it. So now I have
>to lose all or part of that finger.
>
>Good news is, of course, this is nothing life-threatening or
>anything like that - I mean, it's just a finger, and this type
>of cancer is very unlikely to spread. Bad news is - well, it's
>what you hold the guitar pick with, so SOMETHING's gonna have
>to change there... i'm sure i'll still be able to play, but
>probably not like I can now. Right-hand stuff on the keybo
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89451 is a reply to message #89445] Fri, 07 September 2007 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oc
>says any of these methods would work in my case, because of
>where it's located & that it's still small in size & hasn't
>spread much, so I don't really have to be concerned
>about "which one will be most effective?" IOW, I need to find
>out how much is not enough, how much is too much, and how much
>is "just right" for being able to effectively employ a
>prosthesis from a musician's standpoint. Might help me make a
>more educated decision.
>
>Anyway, if anybody knows of anyone, that'd be great; I'd sure
>appreciate it. Lemme know!
>
>Neil"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:470f9dfb@linux...
> Your system date is out.... AGAIN! ;-)
>
> David.

sorry..........I forgot to do a couple of things on the 9th so I've been
playing catchup.

;o)so are his analogiesdo you get lost easily? Onstar where do I go???Nice. Ron Paul is the only one in either party that I can listen to. If
you want to know who a man is, look at his past actions. Ron Paul has my
vote."John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>do you get lost easily? Onstar where do I go???


Do you trust your leaders? Are you easily led?


expiring minds want to know...

DC"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:470fa27c$1@linux...
>
> so are his analogies

Yeah ........this always happens when I see things that remind me of other
things. Relating current possibilities to previous experience is one of the
curses of old age I guess.

;o)Just heard a jazz version of...





Ready?










The Windmills of Your Mind



aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH!


the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind....


damn... them's some RIPE lyrics!

You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh

That was MUSIC!



oooffff....

DC>Do you trust your leaders? Are you easily led?
I would trust Ron Paul over any of the others combined. I would not trust
the others. Obama seems more trustworthy than the rest though coming in
2nd to Paul.

Too bad the fix is already in.

X Rudi
X Hillary

I pick neither.If you're bored later tonight or tomorrow call me so I can tell you about
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Hi Mike,
I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
It didn't a couple of days ago.

I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=20
time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=20
and reinserting the cards? =20

This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=20
Tom



"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...

Hi Tom,

I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.

I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =
etc.,
until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
Magma,
I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
want to
test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that. =
It
sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a =
shit
when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens =
on
start up).

Good luck!

Mike
=20

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
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>> wrote:
>
>
>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
>New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
>then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
match.
>I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
=3D
>even
>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
>
>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
Magma
>tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
far =3D
>left
>for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
you =3D
>face the front.
>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
>
>Everything is broken it seems.
>Tom
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
>news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
>
> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> if I baby it.
>
> Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D
>anything
> about that in the manual.
>
> ? ? ?
>
> Why Me???
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D
>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
new =3D
>Antec 550=3D20
>watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
It =3D
>will run=3D20
>with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
boots and
=3D
>screws the=3D20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards
=3D
>but what=3D20
>else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
are =3D
>cooling=3D20
>well too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS =
then =3D
>? Maybe=3D20
>3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
>drivers? If so=3D20
>I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how =
old =3D
>mine is. =3D20
>It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
=3D
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>#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think mine's the opposite =
judging by
=3D
>my master=3D20
>card placement.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Everything is broken it =3D
>seems.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
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wrote =3D
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> <A =
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but . =
.. . =3D
></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot =
Magma =3D
>for=3D20
> years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
This =3D
>began=3D20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
Mec =3D
>setup. The=3D20
> Magma</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
second =3D
>then=3D20
> stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
=3D
>work with all=3D20
> 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
unplug, wait,
=3D
>replug and=3D20
> start again.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
one Mec =3D
>then. I=3D20
> thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
built in to
=3D
>the=3D20
> Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
>manual.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =
least it used to=20
with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all 5 cards in it.&nbsp; Now it chokes =
as soon as I=20
attach a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new =
working=20
mecs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
cards are=20
seated now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
and one=20
interface at a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time.&nbsp; Maybe the scherzo drivers =
are screwy=20
from removing </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reinserting the cards?&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
can ruin a=20
good business.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . =
..=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then =
one,=20
then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem.&nbsp; If it is the =
bridge=20
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in case=20
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throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
any 442s=20
that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
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wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>&gt;New=20
problem.&nbsp; Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
supply.<BR>&gt;Powers up=20
nicely in the Magma.&nbsp; It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>&gt;then =
shut off=20
just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>&gt;I'll =
double=20
check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
=3D<BR>&gt;even<BR>&gt;the new supply to croak?&nbsp; Fans are cooling =
well=20
too.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ?&nbsp; =
Maybe 3 . .=20
. ?&nbsp; The Magma?<BR>&gt;Damn.&nbsp; Are there Magma drivers?&nbsp; =
If so=20
I'd need older ones.&nbsp; The Magma<BR>&gt;tech was almost laughing =
at how=20
old mine is.&nbsp; It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>&gt;left<BR>&gt;for =
the Magma=20
card.&nbsp; The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
=3D<BR>&gt;face=20
the front.<BR>&gt;I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
card=20
placement.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Everything is broken it=20
seems.<BR>&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
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one but .=20
. .=3D20<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =

years.&nbsp; Now it won't<BR>&gt;&nbsp; start up and keep =
running.&nbsp; This=20
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setup.&nbsp;=20
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stop.&nbsp; I'm=20
thinking<BR>&gt;&nbsp; power supply.&nbsp; It might still work with =
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it's=20
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Maybe it=20
will start up with one Mec then.&nbsp; I thought there =
was=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; a=20
auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma.&nbsp; I didn't see=20
=3D<BR>&gt;anything<BR>&gt;&nbsp; about that in the=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C80CD3.67D64EB0--Fair enough, but Paul blew it in a couple places in that video.

The first one was the graphic showing in big scary headlines

"POLYGAMISTS IN ROMNEY FAMILY TREE!!!"

Now I don't care about Romney either, but who freakin' CARES
about this?

How about your family tree? How about mine!

Holy cow, man! We'd all be in hell.

That sort of stuff, and presenting asshat tase-boy as a
victim, say that Paul is manipulating me...

no thanks

I am beoming more and more convinced that high-visibility
leadership and power positions attract the worst sort of
sociopaths and lunatics. And today, I do not see how anyone
else has a chance.

DC


"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>Do you trust your leaders? Are you easily led?
>I would trust Ron Paul over any of the others combined. I would not trust
>the others. Obama seems more trustworthy than the rest though coming in
>2nd to Paul.
>
>Too bad the fix is already in.
>
>X Rudi
>X Hillary
>
>I pick neither.
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:470fadcf$1@linux...
>
> If you're bored later tonight or tomorrow call me so I can tell you about
> K metering !

OK dude. will do.

;o)I think a bit part of his point is that a) we don't need to talk snake nearly
as much as we do and b) a lot of the snakes are made larger/faster/smarter
by our on blundering. Remember, a fair number of the guns used to shoot US
soldiers in Afghanistan show up on CIA receipts.

TCB

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:470f77dc$1@linux...
>> Powerful message. Well worth 8 minutes of your time.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
>
>For some reason, I get cold chill down my back when I watch this. Part of
it
>is positive excitement because I really like the message, but part of it
is
>alarm because something about this guy reminds me of Jimmy
>Carter..........the honesty part, I think. this was absolutely disastrous
in
>the foriegn policy realm. Many of our current woes reach back to his
>blundering. In order to deal with a world full of snakes, can we depend
on
>someone who doesn't speak "snake"?......oh wait!!!!......he's been a sitting

>congressman for a while.
>
>Nevermind.
>
>I used to work in the repair shop of our local music store (Washington Music
Center)
with a bunch of 20-something guys, one of whom was into bands like Slayer.
He gave me no end of grief when he foound out that I had once been in a
band that played "We Had Joy, We Had Fun, We Had Seasons in the Sun..." 2
or 3 times a night. The things I used to have to do to make a living.

Maybe I should do a "jazz" version of that.

Gantt

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Just heard a jazz version of...
>
>
>
>
>
>Ready?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>The Windmills of Your Mind
>
>
>
>aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH!
>
>
>the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind....
>
>
>damn... them's some RIPE lyrics!
>
>You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh
>
>That was MUSIC!
>
>
>
>oooffff....
>
>DC
>How much would it take to talk you out of it??

yipes

DC


"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I used to work in the repair shop of our local music store (Washington Music
>Center)
>with a bunch of 20-something guys, one of whom was into bands like Slayer.
> He gave me no end of grief when he foound out that I had once been in a
>band that played "We Had Joy, We Had Fun, We Had Seasons in the Sun..."
2
>or 3 times a night. The things I used to have to do to make a living.

>
>Maybe I should do a "jazz" version of that.
>
>Gantt
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Just heard a jazz version of...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Ready?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The Windmills of Your Mind
>>
>>
>>
>>aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH!
>>
>>
>>the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind....
>>
>>
>>damn... them's some RIPE lyrics!
>>
>>You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh
>>
>>That was MUSIC!
>>
>>
>>
>>oooffff....
>>
>>DC
>>
>On 13 Oct 2007 01:03:40 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
<rlincoln@
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89454 is a reply to message #89451] Fri, 07 September 2007 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:

>
>Yeah, I heard about the Kevin C. thing. I could have bet money on that not
>working out. He's too much of a real singer with a good head on his shoulders
>for that to work out. At least he got paid for doing the record. I would
>have liked to work with him, maybe someday.
>Rod

I can pass your contact info along to him, if you'd like....

pab"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:470fbba6$1@linux...
>
> How much would it take to talk you out of it??
>
> yipes
>
> DC
>

.........and if that doesn't work, we could h
Re: OT: Nebula [message #89455 is a reply to message #89454] Fri, 07 September 2007 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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ire somebody to
......errrr........change his mind?

;oDHi Tom,

Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or when
PARIS starts?

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Mike,
>I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
>scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
>It didn't a couple of days ago.
>
>I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
>I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=20
>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=20
>and reinserting the cards? =20
>
>This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=20
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two, =
>etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
>Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
>want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about that.
=
> It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a =
>shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens
=
>on
> start up).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
> =20
>
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista (discussion) irritating. [message #89456 is a reply to message #89452] Fri, 07 September 2007 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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/> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
>match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made
=
>=3D
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
>Magma
> >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
>far =3D
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
>you =3D
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=3D20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =3D
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =3D
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a =
>new =3D
> >Antec 550=3D20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. =
>It =3D
> >will run=3D20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP =
>boots and
> =3D
> >screws the=3D20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the
=
>cards
> =3D
> >but what=3D20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans =
>are =3D
> >cooling=3D20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS
=
>then =3D
> >? Maybe=3D20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D
> >drivers? If so=3D20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how
=
>old =3D
> >mine is. =3D20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
>=3D
> >one's slot=3D20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89458 is a reply to message #89418] Fri, 07 September 2007 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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t;<FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > <A =
>href=3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this one but .
=
>. . =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
=
>Magma =3D
> >for=3D20
> > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. =
>This =3D
> >began=3D20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 =
>Mec =3D
> >setup. The=3D20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a split =
>second =3D
> >then=3D20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
>=3D
> >work with all=3D20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
>unplug, wait,
> =3D
> >replug and=3D20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with =
>one Mec =3D
> >then. I=3D20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off mechanism =
>built in to
> =3D
> >the=3D20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the =3D
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,
> =3D
> >and=3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, at =
>least it used to=20
>with</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes =
>as soon as I=20
>attach a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>scsi cable to any of my three new =
>working=20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't a couple of days =
>ago.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way the =
>cards are=20
>seated now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check the Magma with one card =
>and one=20
>interface at a </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
>are screwy=20
>from removing </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reinserting the cards? =
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is amazing how one little thing =
>can ruin a=20
>good business.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. .
=
>.=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> w
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista (discussion) irritating. [message #89459 is a reply to message #89456] Fri, 07 September 2007 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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rote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any=20
> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then
=
>one,=20
> then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
>bridge=20
> chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no cards =
>were in=20
> it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
>in case=20
> I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
>
> throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to innitialize =
>any 442s=20
> that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=20
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=20
> problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =
>supply.<BR>>Powers up=20
> nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =
>shut off=20
> just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
>double=20
> check seating of the cards but what else would have made=20
> =3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =
>well=20
> too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =
>Maybe 3 . .=20
> . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =
>If so=20
> I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =
>at how=20
> old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =
>the Magma=20
> card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =
>=3D<BR>>face=20
> the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =
>card=20
> placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=20
> seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> =3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =
>one but .=20
> . .=3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =
>
> years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =
>running. This=20
> began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
>setup. =20
> The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =
>stop. I'm=20
> thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =
>all 5=20
> cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =
>it's=20
> off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =
>Maybe it=20
> will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
>was=3D20<BR>> a=20
> auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=20
> =3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=20
> manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=20
> Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
>fight spam,=20
> and you?<BR>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Most=20
> Excellent Fix It=20
> =3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
>=3D<BR>>Antec=20
> 550=3D20<BR>>watt =
>supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
>=3D<BR>>will=20
> run=3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =
>and<BR>=3D<BR>>screws=20
> the=3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=20
> match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the cards<BR>=3D<BR>>but =
>
> what=3D20<BR>>else would have made=20
> even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
>=3D<BR>>cooling=3D20<BR>>well=20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D<BR>>? =
>Maybe=3D20<BR>>3=20
> . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =3D<BR>>drivers? =
>If=20
> so=3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=20
> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D<BR>>mine is.=20
> =3D20<BR>>It has a slot on the far=20
> left</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =3D<BR>>one's =
>slot=3D20<BR>>#s go=20
> 1-13 rt to left as you face the=20
> front.</FONT></DIV><BR>><
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><<A=3D20<BR>
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> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net&
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quot;>arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> <A h
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ref=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:47=
>0d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can't believe this =
>one but . .=20
> . =3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
>13 slot=20
> Magma =3D<BR>>for=3D20<BR>> years. Now it=20
> won't</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>start up and keep running. This =
>=3D<BR>>began=3D20<BR>> =20
> tonight as</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
>=3D<BR>>setup.=20
> The=3D20<BR>> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>would power on for a =
>split second=20
> =3D<BR>>then=3D20<BR>> stop. I'm=20
> thinking</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>power supply. It might still =
>=3D<BR>>work with=20
> all=3D20<BR>> 5 cards and 1 =
>Mec</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>if I baby=20
> it.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,=20
> wait,<BR>=3D<BR>>replug and=3D20<BR>> start=20
> again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Maybe it will start up with one Mec =3D<BR>>then.=20
> I=3D20<BR>> thought there was =
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a auto shut off =
>mechanism built=20
> in to<BR>=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> Magma. I didn't see=20
> anything</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>about that in the=20
> =3D<BR>>manual.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>? ?=20
> ?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
>Polesoft Lockspam=20
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>Or maybe a reggae version! ;-) Irie!

David.

Gantt Kushner wrote:
> I used to work in the repair shop of our local music store (Washington Music
> Center)
> with a bunch of 20-something guys, one of whom was into bands like Slayer.
> He gave me no end of grief when he foound out that I had once been in a
> band that played "We Had Joy, We Had Fun, We Had Seasons in the Sun..." 2
> or 3 times a night. The things I used to have to do to make a living.
>
> Maybe I should do a "jazz" version of that.
>
> Gantt
>
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>>Just heard a jazz version of...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Ready?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The Windmills of Your Mind
>>
>>
>>
>>aarrggGGHHHHHHHHH!
>>
>>
>>the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind....
>>
>>
>>damn... them's some RIPE lyrics!
>>
>>You kids today can't write like THAT! heh heh heh
>>
>>That was MUSIC!
>>
>>
>>
>>oooffff....
>>
>>DC
>>
>
>Try hooking the MEC's up but NOT hooking them to A/C... as in "off"

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
> all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
> scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
> It didn't a couple of days ago.
>
> I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
> I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a
> time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing
> and reinserting the cards?
>
> This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
> Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then two,
> etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may
> want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about
> that. It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for a
> shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that happens on
> start up).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin'
> match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have made =
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The Magma
> >tech was almost
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laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the
> far =
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as
> you =
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote in message =
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there was=20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =
> >Antec 550=20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =
> >will run=20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then shut off just before XP
> boots and
> =
> >screws the=20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check seating of the
> cards
> =
> >but what=20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =
> >cooling=20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS
> then =
> >? Maybe=20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
> >drivers? If so=20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =
> >mine is. =20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for the Magma card. The newer =
> >one's slot=20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think mine's the opposite
> judging by
> =
> >my master=20
> >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything is broken it =
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =
> >in message=20
> > <A
> href=3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't believe this one but .
> . . =
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot
> Magma =
> >for=20
> > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>start up and keep running. This =
> >began=20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =
> >setup. The=20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would power on for a split second =
> >then=20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>power supply. It might still =
> >work with all=20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I baby it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Once it's off I have to unplug,
> wait,
> =
> >replug and=20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe it will start up with one
> Mec =
> >then. I=20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a auto shut off mechanism built
> in to
> =
> >the=20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>about that in the =
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FON
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The Magma power supply just stops after about 45 seconds
so windows freaks and won't finish starting up.
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:470fbd61@linux...

Hi Tom,

Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are connected or =
when
PARIS starts?

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Mike,
>I think Windows will boot fine, at least it used to with
>all 5 cards in it. Now it chokes as soon as I attach a
>scsi cable to any of my three new working mecs.
>It didn't a couple of days ago.
>
>I'm digging deeper into the way the cards are seated now.
>I will check the Magma with one card and one interface at a=3D20
>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers are screwy from removing=3D20
>and reinserting the cards? =3D20
>
>This is amazing how one little thing can ruin a good business.
>Well maybe it's 10 little things but. . .=3D20
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message news:470f58fa$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require any drivers.
>
> I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, then one, then =
two, =3D
>etc.,
> until you can find the problem. If it is the bridge chips in the =
=3D
>Magma,
> I believe Windows would fail even if no cards were in it. You may =
=3D
>want to
> test it with another PCI card in it just in case I'm wrong about =
that.
=3D
> It
> sounds to me like a bad card that is throwing the PARIS driver for =
a =3D
>shit
> when it tries to innitialize any 442s that are attached (that =
happens
=3D
>on
> start up).
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
> =3D20
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Most Excellent Fix It Guys,
> >New problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt supply.
> >Powers up nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards
> >then shut off just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' =
=3D
>match.
> >I'll double check seating of the cards but what else would have =
made
=3D
>=3D3D
> >even
> >the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling well too.
> >
> >I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? Maybe 3 . . . ? The =
Magma?
> >Damn. Are there Magma drivers? If so I'd need older ones. The =
=3D
>Magma
> >tech was almost laughing at how old mine is. It has a slot on the =
=3D
>far =3D3D
> >left
> >for the Magma card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as =
=3D
>you =3D3D
> >face the front.
> >I think mine's the opposite judging by my master card placement.
> >
> >Everything is broken it seems.
> >Tom
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:470d9f41$1@linux...
> > I can't believe this one but . . .=3D3D20
> >
> > I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for years. Now it won't
> > start up and keep running. This began tonight as
> > I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec setup. The Magma
> > would power on for a split second then stop. I'm thinking
> > power supply. It might still work with all 5 cards and 1 Mec
> > if I baby it.
> >
> > Once it's off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.
> > Maybe it will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =
was=3D3D20
> > a auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see =
=3D3D
> >anything
> > about that in the manual.
> >
> > ? ? ?
> >
> > Why Me???
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Most Excellent Fix It =
=3D3D
> >Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just =
installed a =3D
>new =3D3D
> >Antec 550=3D3D20
> >watt supply.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the =
Magma. =3D
>It =3D3D
> >will run=3D3D20
> >with 5 EDS cards</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before =
XP =3D
>boots and
> =3D3D
> >screws the=3D3D20
> >whole shootin' match.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating =
of the
=3D
>cards
> =3D3D
> >but what=3D3D20
> >else would have made even</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? =
Fans =3D
>are =3D3D
> >cooling=3D3D20
> >well too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a =
broken EDS
=3D
>then =3D3D
> >? Maybe=3D3D20
> >3 . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D
> >drivers? If so=3D3D20
> >I'd need older ones. The Magma</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing =
at how
=3D
>old =3D3D
> >mine is. =3D3D20
> >It has a slot on the far left</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>for the Magma card. The =
newer =3D
>=3D3D
> >one's slot=3D3D20
> >#s go 1-13 rt to left as you face the front.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I think mine's the =
opposite =3D
>judging by
> =3D3D
> >my master=3D3D20
> >card placement.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Everything is broken it =
=3D3D
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > <A =3D
>href=3D3D3D"news:470d9f41$1@linux">news:470d9f41$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I can't believe this =
one but .
=3D
>. . =3D3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I've had 5 cards in a =
13 slot
=3D
>Magma =3D3D
> >for=3D3D20
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/> > > years. Now it won't</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>start up and keep =
running. =3D
>This =3D3D
> >began=3D3D20
> > tonight as</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I tried adding Mec #2 =
to a 1 =3D
>Mec =3D3D
> >setup. The=3D3D20
> > Magma</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>would power on for a =
split =3D
>second =3D3D
> >then=3D3D20
> > stop. I'm thinking</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>power supply. It might =
still =3D
>=3D3D
> >work with all=3D3D20
> > 5 cards and 1 Mec</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>if I baby =
it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Once it's off I have to =
=3D
>unplug, wait,
> =3D3D
> >replug and=3D3D20
> > start again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Maybe it will start up =
with =3D
>one Mec =3D3D
> >then. I=3D3D20
> > thought there was </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>a auto shut off =
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>built in to
> =3D3D
> >the=3D3D20
> > Magma. I didn't see anything</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>about that in the =3D3D
> >manual.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>? ? ?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why Me???</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
>spam,
> =3D3D
> >and=3D3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Mike,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think Windows will boot fine, =
at =3D
>least it used to=3D20
>with</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all 5 cards in it. Now it =
chokes =3D
>as soon as I=3D20
>attach a</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>scsi cable to any of my three =
new =3D
>working=3D20
>mecs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't a couple of days =3D
>ago.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm digging deeper into the way =
the =3D
>cards are=3D20
>seated now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I will check the Magma with one =
card =3D
>and one=3D20
>interface at a </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time. Maybe the scherzo drivers =
=3D
>are screwy=3D20
>from removing </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and reinserting the cards? =3D
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is amazing how one little =
thing =3D
>can ruin a=3D20
>good business.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well maybe it's 10 little things =
but. .
=3D
>.=3D20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
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> <DIV>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:470f58fa$1@linux">news:470f58fa$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>H=
i=3D20
> Tom,<BR><BR>I have the same old Magma, and it doesn't require =
any=3D20
> drivers.<BR><BR>I'd try booting Windows XP with no EDS cards in, =
then
=3D
>one,=3D20
> then two, etc.,<BR>until you can find the problem. If it is the =
=3D
>bridge=3D20
> chips in the Magma,<BR>I believe Windows would fail even if no =
cards =3D
>were in=3D20
> it. You may want to<BR>test it with another PCI card in it just =
=3D
>in case=3D20
> I'm wrong about that. It<BR>sounds to me like a bad card that is =
=3D
>
> throwing the PARIS driver for a shit<BR>when it tries to =
innitialize =3D
>any 442s=3D20
> that are attached (that happens on<BR>start up).<BR><BR>Good=3D20
> luck!<BR><BR>Mike<BR> <BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Most Excellent Fix It Guys,<BR>>New=3D20
> problem. Just installed a new Antec 550 watt =3D
>supply.<BR>>Powers up=3D20
> nicely in the Magma. It will run with 5 EDS cards<BR>>then =3D
>shut off=3D20
> just before XP boots and screws the whole shootin' match.<BR>>I'll =
=3D
>double=3D20
> check seating of the cards but what else would have made=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>>the new supply to croak? Fans are cooling =3D
>well=3D20
> too.<BR>><BR>>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then ? =3D
>Maybe 3 . .=3D20
> . ? The Magma?<BR>>Damn. Are there Magma drivers? =3D
>If so=3D20
> I'd need older ones. The Magma<BR>>tech was almost laughing =3D
>at how=3D20
> old mine is. It has a slot on the far =3D3D<BR>>left<BR>>for =3D
>the Magma=3D20
> card. The newer one's slot #s go 1-13 rt to left as you =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D20
> the front.<BR>>I think mine's the opposite judging by my master =3D
>card=3D20
> placement.<BR>><BR>>Everything is broken it=3D20
> seems.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:470d9f41$1@linux...<BR>> I can't believe this =3D
>one but .=3D20
> . .=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I've had 5 cards in a 13 slot Magma for =3D
>
> years. Now it won't<BR>> start up and keep =3D
>running. This=3D20
> began tonight as<BR>> I tried adding Mec #2 to a 1 Mec =3D
>setup. =3D20
> The Magma<BR>> would power on for a split second then =3D
>stop. I'm=3D20
> thinking<BR>> power supply. It might still work with =3D
>all 5=3D20
> cards and 1 Mec<BR>> if I baby it.<BR>><BR>> Once =3D
>it's=3D20
> off I have to unplug, wait, replug and start again.<BR>> =3D
>Maybe it=3D20
> will start up with one Mec then. I thought there =3D
>was=3D3D20<BR>> a=3D20
> auto shut off mechanism built in to the Magma. I didn't see=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>anything<BR>> about that in the=3D20
> manual.<BR>><BR>> ? ? ?<BR>><BR>> Why=3D20
> Me???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =3D
>fight spam,=3D20
> and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> =3D
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Most=3D20
> Excellent Fix It=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>New problem. Just installed a new =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>Antec=3D20
> 550=3D3D20<BR>>watt =3D
>supply.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Powers up nicely in the Magma. It =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> run=3D3D20<BR>>with 5 EDS=3D20
>
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89469 is a reply to message #89458] Fri, 07 September 2007 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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cards</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>then shut off just before XP boots =3D
>and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>screws=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>>whole shootin'=3D20
> match.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'll double check seating of the =
cards<BR>=3D3D<BR>>but =3D
>
> what=3D3D20<BR>>else would have made=3D20
> even</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>the new supply to croak? Fans are =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>cooling=3D3D20<BR>>well=3D20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'm thinking I have a broken EDS then =3D3D<BR>>? =3D
>Maybe=3D3D20<BR>>3=3D20
> . . . ? The Magma?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Damn. Are there Magma =
=3D3D<BR>>drivers? =3D
>If=3D20
> so=3D3D20<BR>>I'd need older ones. The=3D20
> Magma</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>tech was almost laughing at how old =3D3D<BR>>mine =
Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista discusion) irritating. [message #89474 is a reply to message #89464] Fri, 07 September 2007 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Why =3D
>Me???</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
>Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
> to fight spam,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
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>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Magma power supply just stops after =
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<DIV>"Mike Audet" &lt;mike@....&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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Tom,<BR><BR>Hmmm...does it fail when windows starts if the MECs are =
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or when<BR>PARIS starts?<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
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Re: OT: 64 bit -Microsoft Vista (discussion) irritating. [message #89475 is a reply to message #89467] Fri, 07 September 2007 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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think Windows will =
boot fine,=20
at least it used to with<BR>&gt;all 5 cards in it.&nbsp; Now it chokes =
as soon=20
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mecs.<BR>&gt;It=20
didn't a couple of days ago.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I'm digging deeper into =
the way=20
the cards are seated now.<BR>&gt;I will check the Magma with one card =
and one=20
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screwy from=20
removing=3D20<BR>&gt;and reinserting the cards? =
=3D20<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;This is=20
amazing how one little thing can ruin a good busines
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