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| Philosophy Joke - Heard on Car Talk [message #92806] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 16:50  |
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dc[3]
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y.
>>>>>
>>>>> To end on a less personal note, there is a huge difference between
>>>>> helping
>>>>> the poor and handing out token freebies as a government program in
>>>>> hopes
>>>> of
>>>>> changing a society. Monumental difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> In truth it's our society that should be helping one another at the
>>>>> community, neighborhood and personal level. We develop programs to
>>>>> expand
>>>>> what we want to do personally on a smaller scale, but eventually the
>>>>> effect
>>>>> is watered down both financially among other costs, and certainly on a
>>>>> personal level as there is no personal interaction. I think most of
>>>>> us
>>>> are
>>>>> guilty of relying on another organization, church, or government to do
>> the
>>>>> work while we drop a check in the mail or the basket to feel better
>>>>> for
>>>> it,
>>>>> when the person who needs a hand most might be next door. I know I am
>>>>> guilty of that. Just a thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/08 1:18 AM, in article 4785c6ad$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would agree withg you that some federal spending on education could
>>>> and
>>>>>> needs to
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| Re: Philosophy Joke - Heard on Car Talk [message #92807 is a reply to message #92806] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 16:18  |
Bill L
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be reworked..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, I totaly disagree with you about "Handouts never work ". People,
>>>>>> companys,farmers,this
>>>>>> country ) needs bailouts , and have excpeted handouts, bailouts if
>>>>>> you
>>>> will.
>>>>>> If you are a spiritual man, than you lean to rely on the Lord for
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> that you can't do. Bottom line, everybody form time to time needs a
>>
>>>>>> helphand,
>>>>>> and yes a blessing, gift, handout, bailout..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your kind of thinking is a typical white man's point of view. You
>>>>>> take
>>>> out
>>>>>> the race. This country is not fair to all. Do we agree on that?
>>>>>> I know of folks (African Americans)who have tried but have been
>>>>>> denied
>>>> (even
>>>>>> through qualified) oportunities,jobs, houses, loans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, you can traach a man to fish hunt, But, if that man, is told that
>>>> he
>>>>>> can't hunt nor fish on this land or pond, or he is not qualified,
>>>>>> then
>>>> what??
>>>>>> I do'nt buy this pull you self up lingo in this country. Wait, I do
>>
>>>>>> belive
>>>>>> that if you are white.. And, yes, some of us blacks do make in by
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> unbelievable
>>>>>> obstacales that would have made most quit..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back to education: I would say that our elementary and middle
>>>>>> education
>>>> is
>>>>>> fine...but, it's the high schools, and better the students..These
>>>>>> kids
>>>> are
>>>>>> out of control. Reguardless of race. The teachers are of at
>>>>>> cross-roads
>>>> with
>>>>>> this generation teeangers. This is all behavioral. Hip-Hop has had an
>>>> major
>>>>>> -downside effect on American Teens..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have an answer to that..BTW, I'm a conservative Democrat(Aka
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>>>>>> Blue
>>>>>> Dog-Christain). I give Tithes and offering to help and feed/cloth the
>>>> poor.
>>>>>> Your hero Ron Reagan was on Welfare. Did'nt stay on it, but like many
>>>>>> others,needed
>>>&g
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| Re: Philosophy Joke - Heard on Car Talk [message #92812 is a reply to message #92807] |
Fri, 16 November 2007 19:03 |
dc[3]
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e are only
>>>>>>> what
>>>> our
>>>>>>> environment allows, and nothing more. Circumstances aren't always
>>>>>>> favorable, or even tolerable, but blaming the government carte
>>>>>>> blanche
>>>> for
>>>>>>> the ils of society is in fact part of the problem, if not a majority
>>>> cause.
>>>>>>> łNo great man ever complains of want of opportunity.˛
>>>>>>> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In support of this, 2/3 of today's billionaires were dirt poor when
>>
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> started out... it takes more the open doors to become successful -
>> it
>>>> takes
>>>>>>> determination. That's what isn't being taught in schools, at home
>> or
>>>> in
>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> society. I know of other billionaires working on revamping the
>>>>>>> education
>>>>>>> system - not just the Gates Foundation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The point is, we can change our government until the cows come home,
>>>> but
>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> people who work and live at the local level don't want to change,
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> voting for change is a fool's folly. Making one's own opportunities
>>>> is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> most certain way to solve a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS: Why do you say "your President"? Have you changed your
>>>>>>> citizenship?
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We don't have to go on with this - probably enough OT threads for
>>>>>>> this
>>>> week.
>>>>>>> Email me offline if you prefer. I think I've about exhausted my
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> allocation for OT this month. ;-))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/9/08 11:15 PM, in article 4785a9ef$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>>>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cont: I'm a big supporter of the Bill and Melinda Gates
>>>>>>>> (re-inventing
>>>>>> ) the
>>>>>>>> US educational system. It's horrible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My wie and I are agonising over what school to send our baby (2
>>>>>>>> year
>>>> )
>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>> when shes turns five(school age). These suburban schools a
>>>>>>>> horrible.
>>>> The
>>>>>>>> kids lack manners. Are
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