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Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97551] Sat, 29 March 2008 06:06 Go to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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lank">mikemullin@primus.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Unfortunately no.
>
> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
> >is there any way to make Altiverb work in Paris?
> >
> >Goran
> >
> >
>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>My cat coughs them up periodically, but I never thought about using them
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97555 is a reply to message #97551] Sat, 29 March 2008 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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a reasonably short timeframe".
> >>>
> >>>BTW, I have already rejected some promising solutions that involved
=
>
> >>>asking
> >>>the community for significant sums of money for development =
>specific only
> >>to
> >>>PARIS. I've talked to genuinely interested developers, folks with =
>great
> >>>track records and real good will who have offered me every break in
=
>the
> >>>book, but I don't propose taking the community down that road. I'm=20
> >>>instead
> >>>seeking developers who will help for their own reasons. Like this =
>one:
> > Mike
> >>>Audet and I have independently estimated the PARIS userbase as some
=
>400
> >>>users worldwide (I have recorded over 40 within the last few months
=
>
> >>>amongst
> >>>the subset of PARIS users that post to the NG). Capturing a market
=
>of=20
> >>>that
> >>>size is not insignificant for a smaller developer looking to build
=
>their
> >&
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97557 is a reply to message #97555] Sat, 29 March 2008 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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/> > >>>go (and of course *why*) when I made the actual call for =
>components.
> >>>
> >>>PARIS hardware prices have plummeted so far that the gear's hardly
=
>worth
> >>>selling now - ($25 for a C16? Feh, the faders in it are probably =
>worth
> > more
> >>>than that as salvage!), and there's the possibility of very =
>exciting
> >>>developments if everything worked out well.
> >>>
> >>>So if you're contemplating blowing PARIS gear out at absurd "it's=20
> >>>gathering
> >>>dust, make me an offer, just get it out of here" fire-sale prices =
>anyway
> >>- a
> >>>component or two, or an old but functional PARIS-equipped PC, or =
>even a
> >>full
> >>>rig - would you consider donating components to such a "development
=
>rig"
> >>>effort instead?
> >>>
> >>>In addition, would there be any interest in making a small donation
=
>to
> > a
> >>>community fund to purchase any components we're missing after we =
>see what
> >>>the donation call brings in? 27 MECs won't help us if we only have
=
>a=20
> >>>single
> >>>EDS card.
> >>>
> >>>I've got no promises to give in exchange at this moment, except my
=
>own,
> >>that
> >>>I'm working on things. But this is what's needed to get 'em done.
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97558 is a reply to message #97551] Sat, 29 March 2008 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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>Let me
> >>>know what you think.
> >>>
> >>>- Kerry Galloway
> >>>
> >>
> >=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not loaded with extra hardware =
>and I'm not=20
>totally into pushing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>44.1 converters into the future either
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Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97571 is a reply to message #97558] Sat, 29 March 2008 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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johnson314@bellsouth.net" target="_blank">johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>I'm in.
>
>Jimmy
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Kerry,
>>
>>I'm not loaded with extra hardware and I'm not totally into pushing
>>44.1 converters into the future either but I'd still make a donation to
>=
>>help
>>the ov
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97575 is a reply to message #97571] Sat, 29 March 2008 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]
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ge <A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:483ad981@linux">news:483ad981@linux</A>...</DIV>+1<BR>"Gantt=
>>=20
>> Kushner" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
>>wrote in=20
>> message <BR><A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"news:483aa591$1@linux">news:483aa591$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
>>t; I=20
>> don't know what Brian's looking to get for his system, but if enough=20
>> of<BR>> us were to contribute $10 or $15 to the cause we could=20
>> probably  make it<BR>> happen.  Could we set up a PayPal =
>>account=20
>> to gather Paris development <BR>> funds?<BR>><BR>>=20
>> Gantt<BR>><BR>> "Brian Milton" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:bcmilton@austin.rr.com">bcmilton@austin.rr.com</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>I'm not really in the right financial =
>>shape to=20
>> donate a rig (Out of <BR>>>work/Starting<BR>>>a new =
>>business), but=20
>> I am looking to part with my rig.  If any Paris=20
>> <BR>>>die-hards<BR>>>want to buy my rig at a reasonable =
>>price and=20
>> donate it for development let<BR>>>me know.  I was about to =
>>post it=20
>> to the FS group.  I'm looking through the<BR>>>old posts =
>>now to=20
>> figure out what it's worth.<BR>>><BR>>>Here's what I've =
>>got in=20
>> Austin,TX:<BR>>>All of these are in=20
>> Black<BR>>><BR>>>MEC<BR>>>442<BR>>>(2)=20
>> EDS<BR>>>8in card<BR>>>8out card<BR>>>ADAT=20
>> card<BR>>>(2) C16<BR>>><BR>>>It's running Paris 3.0 =
>>on an=20
>> older Athlon XP/WinXP system -w- 1GB RAM.<BR>> I<BR>>>was =
>>going to=20
>> re-purpose the PC for something else but would take offers<BR>>=20
>> for<BR>>>it=20
>> =
>>too.<BR>>><BR>>>-Brian<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR=
>>>>>Kerry=20
>> Galloway <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:kg@kerrygalloway.com">kg@kerrygalloway.com</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>>>Hi all. I was going to save this post for a bit =
>>longer=20
>> until I had more<BR>>>info<BR>>>>to share, but it seems =
>>
>> particularly timely today.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Sorry this =
>>is a bit=20
>> long - the summary is at the end. But as I'm=20
>> putting<BR>>>out<BR>>>>an appeal here, you should have =
>>full=20
>> access to my "source code" :D<BR>>>><BR>>>>As my =
>>previous=20
>> posts have implied, I've been busy contacting people =
>>in<BR>>>>various=20
>> places about the possibilities of pushing PARIS forward. I've=20
>> <BR>>>>talked<BR>>>>to many companies/developers. =
>>Some names=20
>> might surprise you. There are<BR>> very<BR>>>>interesting =
>>avenues=20
>> to pursue, and obstacles to overcome to get=20
>> there.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Development involving the PARIS =
>>app=20
>> itself (eg EDS plugins or the =
>><BR>>>>FaderWorks<BR>>>>PDC=20
>> advances) looks to be in excellent hands courtesy of Mike Audet=20
>> and<BR>>>>Dimitrios and others. I'm focusing my own efforts =
>>elsewhere=20
>> - I'm<BR>>>>investigating what alternatives might exist for =
>>the PARIS=20
>> hardware<BR>>>>independent of the PARIS app. This involves=20
>> investigating things like <BR>>>>what<BR>>>>driver =
>>options=20
>> could be pursued; what alternative "front end" apps=20
>> might<BR>>>>feasibly be adapted to access the PARIS hardware; =
>>and how=20
>> we might obtain<BR>>>>the ability to import/migrate ppjs/pafs =
>>into=20
>> another app to "future <BR>>>>proof"<BR>>>>our =
>>access to our=20
>> "back catalogs".<BR>>>><BR>>>>I can only promise I'm =
>>working=20
>> hard in the background and have devoted<BR>> =
>>many<BR>>>>hours=20
>> already to the effort. I can't make promises on behalf of=20
>> others,<BR>>>but<BR>>>>I see the bulk of items on my =
>>list as=20
>> more "to do" items than a "wish =
>><BR>>>>list",<BR>>>>and if=20
>> two minor goals I'm working towards happen then I'd rate at=20
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97576 is a reply to message #97575] Sat, 29 March 2008 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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/> >> least<BR>>>one<BR>>>>of the develo
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97577 is a reply to message #97571] Sat, 29 March 2008 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pments (safeguarding =
>>our=20
>> ppj/pafs) as both "fairly =
>>likely"<BR>>>and<BR>>>>"within a=20
>> reasonably short timeframe".<BR>>>><BR>>>>BTW, I =
>>have=20
>> already rejected some promising solutions that involved=20
>> <BR>>>>asking<BR>>>>the community for significant =
>>sums of=20
>> money for development specific =
>>only<BR>>>to<BR>>>>PARIS. I've=20
>> talked to genuinely interested developers, folks with=20
>> great<BR>>>>track records and real good will who have offered =
>>me=20
>> every break in the<BR>>>>book, but I don't propose taking the =
>>
>> community down that road. I'm =
>><BR>>>>instead<BR>>>>seeking=20
>> developers who will help for their own reasons. Like this one:<BR>> =
>>
>> Mike<BR>>>>Audet and I have independently estimated the PARIS =
>>
>> userbase as some 400<BR>>>>users worldwide (I have recorded =
>>over 40=20
>> within the last few months <BR>>>>amongst<BR>>>>the =
&g
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97578 is a reply to message #97575] Sat, 29 March 2008 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;>subset=20
>> of PARIS users that post to the NG). Capturing a market of=20
>> <BR>>>>that<BR>>>>size is not insignificant for a =
>>smaller=20
>> developer looking to build their<BR>>>>clientele - it can be =
>>worth=20
>> them throwing some effort into investigating<BR>>>>making =
>>those=20
>> people happy (particularly if the developer has existing=20
>> <BR>>>>code<BR>>>>that might merely need tweaking). =
>>And=20
>> there are aspects of the PARIS<BR>>>>community that might =
>>make it=20
>> more interesting to certain developers=20
>> than<BR>>>raw<BR>>>>numbers might=20
>> =
>>dictate.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>><=
>>BR>>>>Here's=20
>> the immediate obstacle I want to ask the community=20
>> about.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Even the most interested =
>>developers=20
>> can't do much for us if they don't<BR>> have<BR>>>>a PARIS =
>>rig -=20
>> and in 2008 PARIS rigs aren't easy to run out and buy.=20
>> <BR>>>>Given<BR>>>>our small size as a market, if we =
>>as a=20
>> community are asking a developer<BR>>>to<BR>>>>do =
>>things for=20
>> us, then telling them "go out and source and purchase a=20
>> <BR>>>>PARIS<BR>>>>rig so you can help us out" isn't =
>>gonna=20
>> fly. Neither is promising a<BR>>>>developer you'll get them =
>>access to=20
>> a rig to test on without being sure<BR>>>you<BR>>>>can =
>>deliver.=20
>> If the community wants developers to work on PARIS, and=20
>> <BR>>>>those<BR>>>>developers have to have a PARIS =
>>rig=20
>> available in order to help us - then<BR>>>>IMHO it's *in the=20
>> community's best interest to provide one to=20
>> =
>>them*.<BR>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>><BR=
>>>>>>So=20
>> this is a "feeler" post. IMHO the community needs a=20
>> pre-assembled,<BR>>>>"turnkey" (ie pre-installed on a =
>>computer) PARIS=20
>> development rig, ready<BR>>>to<BR>>>>be shipped to =
>>developers=20
>> that could do it the most good (if you've=20
>> <BR>>>>guessed<BR>>>>that I have destinations in =
>>mind to=20
>> offer this to already - well, you're<BR>>>a<BR>>>>good =
>>guesser=20
>> :D).<BR>>>><BR>>>>Ideally this rig would be a =
>>multi-card,=20
>> multi-MEC system containing at<BR>> least<BR>>>>one of =
>>every=20
>> exis
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97580 is a reply to message #97578] Sat, 29 March 2008 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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/> >>it are=20
>> probably worth<BR>> more<BR>>>>than that as salvage!), and =
>>there's=20
>> the possibility of very exciting<BR>>>>developments if =
>>everything=20
>> worked out well.<BR>>>><BR>>>>So if you're =
>>contemplating=20
>> blowing PARIS gear out at absurd "it's=20
>> <BR>>>>gathering<BR>>>>dust, make me an offer, just =
>>get it=20
>> out of here" fire-sale prices anyway<BR>>>- =
>>a<BR>>>>component=20
>> or two, or an old but functional PARIS-equipped PC, or even=20
>> a<BR>>>full<BR>>>>rig - would you consider donating =
>>components=20
>> to such a "development rig"<BR>>>>effort=20
>> instead?<BR>>>><BR>>>>In addition, would there be =
>>any=20
>> interest in making a small donation to<BR>> =
>>a<BR>>>>community fund=20
>> to purchase any components we're missing after we see =
>>what<BR>>>>the=20
>> donation call brings in? 27 MECs won't help us if we only have a=20
>> <BR>>>>single<BR>>>>EDS=20
>> card.<BR>>>><BR>>>>I've got no promises to give in =
>>exchange=20
>> at this moment, except my own,<BR>>>that<BR>>>>I'm =
>>working on=20
>> things. But this is what's needed to get 'em done. Let =
>>me<BR>>>>know=20
>> what you think.<BR>>>><BR>>>>- Kerry=20
>> Galloway<BR>>>><BR>>><BR>> <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>>
>>
>Excellent, thanks! I'll post an update shortly.

- K

On 6/24/08 8:13 PM, in article 4861b7ca$1@linux, "Deej" <noway@jose.net>
wrote:

>
> I just found a set of EDS Connector cables (the little ribbon cables).
>
> Tell me where to send 'em.
>
> Deej
>
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm in.
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerry,
>>>
>>> I'm not loaded with extra hardware and I'm not totally into pushing
>>> 44.1 converters into the future either but I'd still make a donation to
>> =
>>> help
>>> the overall cause.
>>>
>>> Count me in. =20
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:483ad981@linux...
>>> +1
>>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message=20
>>> news:483aa591$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what Brian's looking to get for his system, but if =
>>> enough of
>>>> us were to contribute $10 or $15 to the cause we could probably =
>>> make it
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97593 is a reply to message #97580] Sun, 30 March 2008 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   DENMARK
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se as some 400<BR>>>>users worldwide (I have recorded =
>>> over 40=20
>>> within the last few months <BR>>>>amongst<BR>>>>the =
>>> subset=20
>>> of PARIS users that post to the NG). Capturing a market of=20
>>> <BR>>>>that<BR>>>>size is not insignificant for a
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97605 is a reply to message #97593] Sun, 30 March 2008 11:54 Go to previous message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]
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dog
>> delicacy,
>> you know.
>>
>> S
>Hi Dimitrios,
I had Paris stop every time I used the Waves SSL GUI. There was an
update to the graphics card driver that stopped the problem. I think
there is information at Waves about this problem with many graphics
cards. Maybe this update will help other plugins too.
Good luck.
Tom
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