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>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my problem.
>>>> They
>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will have
>>>>>>> the
>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these worthless
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances are
>>>> that
>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>> making
>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under the
>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the AGP
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that all
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port was
>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>> assigned
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and interrupt
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort to
>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached, internal
>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering in
>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows, and I
>>>>> am
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules used
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris. Resulting
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4 times,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and then
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some success.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>As a guy who has spent way too much of his life on computers and crappy hardware
I can sympathize. You'll be through it soon, even if you have to burn the
motherboard and buy a brand that can document the one to one relationship
between slots and irqs! Seeing the MX800 manual being flat wrong and seeing
your manual I'm thinking they are pretty clueless over such a critical core
function. Idiots !
John
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Waiting on a call back. They claim to be very busy, but the guy I spoke
to
>said they'd get back to me tonight.
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b55b6$1@linux...
>>
>> Are you unable to give them a call?
>>
>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>I wish it were so, but I can't find anything of the sort. I have no access
>>
>>>to a computer with a floppy drive so I can't flash the BIOS with anything.
>>>
>>>However, maybe DJ was right, cuz the most recent version of the BIOS on
>> the
>>>Asus site was for correcting the "USB overcurrent" thingie. I don't
>>>understand why I can't just use a CD-ROM, dammit. The wife's laptop has
>> no
>>>floppy drive.
>>>
>>>Dammit! I just wanna make music!
>>>
>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>>news:450b4d10@linux...
>>>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper
>> on
>>>> the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>
>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On
>> that
>>>>> blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the error
>>
>>>>> message "USB device over current status detected". Then the computer
>>
>>>>> shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the manual
>>
>>>>>> and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1 (irq4),
>>>>>> floppy
>>
>>>>>> (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard audio and USB,
>> Keep
>>>>>> the LAN on so you can network but I would try only slots 3 and 4 only
>>
>>>>>> first. Notice how they don't even show audio sharing with anything.
>>
>>>>>> This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the hell
>> is
>>>>>> this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what? Inquiring
>>
>>>>>> minds !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What
is
>> it
>>>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> EDS
>>>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in
bios
>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any device
>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on
>> a
>>>>>>>> shared
>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes
by
>>
>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various
>> PCI
>>>>>>> slots
>>>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters
>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will
have
>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these
>>>>>>>>>> worthless
>>
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances
>> are
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>
>>>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>
>>>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under
>> the
>>>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as
>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the
AGP
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that
>> all
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port
>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and interrupt
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort
to
>>>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering
>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows,
and
>> I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resulting
>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4 times,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and
>> then
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I just shitcanned my wireless doorbell. Fucker only lasted 3 years. I'm
going with a door knocker, I bet I get 50 out of it! I have gotten more
selective of which technologies I'm buying into. I still have never had
a cell phone, palm pilot or ipod and I don't see one any time soon. Why
can't they even put AM on the damn things? Today my friends Ipod got hosed
up OS, I didn't know that was possible and know he needs a power supply/not
usb power to fix it. hahaha Go APPLE !!!!
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Not to belittle Uptown Jimmy's situation and thank "G" I have a computer
>guru as a very good friend but doesn't this make you pine for the good old
>days of analog
>
>Don
>
>
>"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi-ho.
>>
>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort to simplify
>> things,
>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached, internal clocking.
>>
>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>
>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering in extremely
>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows, and I am able
to
>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>
>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules used in this
>> patch
>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris. Resulting audio may
>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4 times, and then
>> when
>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and then things
>> work
>> for a while.
>>
>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some success. The errors
>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>
>> Anybody?
>> Jimmy
>
>Jimmy, how many eds cards do you have?I can't freaking afford another motherboard. At least I would hope my
brand-new RAM and CPU would work on another MB?
Jeeeeeeesus.
I'm half-Jewish. I can say "Jeeeeeeesus" with impunity, right?
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b591f$1@linux...
>
> As a guy who has spent way too much of his life on computers and crappy
> hardware
> I can sympathize. You'll be through it soon, even if you have to burn the
> motherboard and buy a brand that can document the one to one relationship
> between slots and irqs! Seeing the MX800 manual being flat wrong and
> seeing
> your manual I'm thinking they are pretty clueless over such a critical
> core
> function. Idiots !
>
> John
>
>
> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>Waiting on a call back. They claim to be very busy, but the guy I spoke
> to
>>said they'd get back to me tonight.
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b55b6$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Are you unable to give them a call?
>>>
>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>I wish it were so, but I can't find anything of the sort. I have no
>>>>access
>>>
>>>>to a computer with a floppy drive so I can't flash the BIOS with
>>>>anything.
>>>>
>>>>However, maybe DJ was right, cuz the most recent version of the BIOS on
>>> the
>>>>Asus site was for correcting the "USB overcurrent" thingie. I don't
>>>>understand why I can't just use a CD-ROM, dammit. The wife's laptop has
>>> no
>>>>floppy drive.
>>>>
>>>>Dammit! I just wanna make music!
>>>>
>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>news:450b4d10@linux...
>>>>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper
>>> on
>>>>> the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>>>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On
>>> that
>>>>>> blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the error
>>>
>>>>>> message "USB device over current status detected". Then the computer
>>>
>>>>>> shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the
>>>>>>> manual
>>>
>>>>>>> and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1 (irq4),
>>>>>>> floppy
>>>
>>>>>>> (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard audio and USB,
>>> Keep
>>>>>>> the LAN on so you can network but I would try only slots 3 and 4
>>>>>>> only
>>>
>>>>>>> first. Notice how they don't even show audio sharing with anything.
>>>
>>>>>>> This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the
>>>>>>> hell
>>> is
>>>>>>> this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what? Inquiring
>>>
>>>>>>> minds !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>>
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What
> is
>>> it
>>>>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>>
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> EDS
>>>>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in
> bios
>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any
>>>>>>>>> device
>>>
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on
>>> a
>>>>>>>>> shared
>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes
> by
>>>
>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
>
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various
>>> PCI
>>>>>>>> slots
>>>>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will
> have
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these
>>>>>>>>>>> worthless
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances
>>> are
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as
>
>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the
> AGP
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that
>>> all
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interrupt
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort
> to
>>>>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuttering
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows,
> and
>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resulting
>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and
>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>That's your daisy.
AA
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:450b584d@linux...
> The only thing I can see for this is to "clear the Real Time Clock RAM in
> CMOS". This would "clear the CMOS memory of date, time, and system setup
> parameters by erasing the CMOS RTC RAM data".
>
> This involves removing the onboard battery and moving jumper cap from pins
> 1-2 to pins 2-3., then back to pins 1-2, then reinstalling the battery. It
> says you have to enter the BIOS and re-enter data.
>
> Is this the thing to do?
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:450b4d10@linux...
>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper on
>> the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>
>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On
>>> that blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the
>>> error message "USB device over current status detected". Then the
>>> computer shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix it.
>>>
>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the manual
>>>> and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1 (irq4), floppy
>>>> (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard audio and USB,
>>>> Keep the LAN on so you can network but I would try only slots 3 and 4
>>>> only first. Notice how they don't even show audio sharing with
>>>> anything. This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>
>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>
>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the hell
>>>> is this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what? Inquiring
>>>> minds !
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>>>> other
>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What is
>>>>> it
>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>>>>> your
>>>>> EDS
>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in bios
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any device
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on a
>>>>>> shared
>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes by
>>>>>> shows
>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>> available
>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various PCI
>>>>> slots
>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>> They
>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will have
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these worthless
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the AGP
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and interrupt
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort to
>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached, internal
>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows, and I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules used
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris. Resulting
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4 times,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Yes, pull the plug !
Uptown Jimmy wrote:
> The only thing I can see for this is to "clear the Real Time Clock RAM in
> CMOS". This would "clear the CMOS memory of date, time, and system setup
> parameters by erasing the CMOS RTC RAM data".
>
> This involves removing the onboard battery and moving jumper cap from pins
> 1-2 to pins 2-3., then back to pins 1-2, then reinstalling the battery. It
> says you have to enter the BIOS and re-enter data.
>
> Is this the thing to do?
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:450b4d10@linux...
>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper on
>> the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>> I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>
>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On that
>>> blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the error
>>> message "USB device over current status detected". Then the computer
>>> shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix it.
>>>
>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the manual
>>>> and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1 (irq4), floppy
>>>> (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard audio and USB, Keep
>>>> the LAN on so you can network but I would try only slots 3 and 4 only
>>>> first. Notice how they don't even show audio sharing with anything.
>>>> This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>
>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>
>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the hell is
>>>> this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what? Inquiring
>>>> minds !
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>>>> other
>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What is it
>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>>>>> your
>>>>> EDS
>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in bios
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any device
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on a
>>>>>> shared
>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes by
>>>>>> shows
>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and their
>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>> available
>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various PCI
>>>>> slots
>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my problem.
>>>>> They
>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will have
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these worthless
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances are
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under the
>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the AGP
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port was
>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and interrupt
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort to
>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached, internal
>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering in
>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows, and I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules used
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris. Resulting
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4 times,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and then
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some success.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>
>
>Ummm, I'm sorta freaked out and wanting precision right now. You mean,
"That's the ticket", right?
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:450b5c7c@linux...
> That's your daisy.
> AA
>
> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:450b584d@linux...
>> The only thing I can see for this is to "clear the Real Time Clock RAM in
>> CMOS". This would "clear the CMOS memory of date, time, and system setup
>> parameters by erasing the CMOS RTC RAM data".
>>
>> This involves removing the onboard battery and moving jumper cap from
>> pins 1-2 to pins 2-3., then back to pins 1-2, then reinstalling the
>> battery. It says you have to enter the BIOS and re-enter data.
>>
>> Is this the thing to do?
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:450b4d10@linux...
>>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper on
>>> the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>>> --
>>> Martin Harrington
>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>
>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>>
>>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On
>>>> that blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the
>>>> error message "USB device over current status detected". Then the
>>>> computer shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the manual
>>>>> and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1 (irq4),
>>>>> floppy (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard audio and
>>>>> USB, Keep the LAN on so you can network but I would try only slots 3
>>>>> and 4 only first. Notice how they don't even show audio sharing with
>>>>> anything. This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>>
>>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the hell
>>>>> is this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what?
>>>>> Inquiring minds !
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What is
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>> EDS
>>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in bios
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any device
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on a
>>>>>>> shared
>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes by
>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various
>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>> slots
>>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will have
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these
>>>>>>>>> worthless for
>>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as
>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and interrupt
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort to
>>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resulting
>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4 times,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Why don't they still make them?
Dammit!
Jimmy
"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:450a8f1f$1@linux...
>
> I just finished a rush session. They needed 10 copies of the CD, and I
> suggested
> that we check it out in the car before commiting to 10 copies. The NS10s
> were bang on. No tweaking needed. Reverb levels, vocal levels, eq,
> everything
> - bang on - and bang on despite the car system sounding very different.
> These
> things are worth their weight in gold.
>
> I was also able to fix a problem in the accoustic guitar track that they
> brought with them. I could hear the problem at 1k immediately. Didn't
> even
> need to sweep the eq.
>
> These represent the best money I have ever spent.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mikeyup
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:450b5d6b@linux...
> Ummm, I'm sorta freaked out and wanting precision right now. You mean,
> "That's the ticket", right?
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:450b5c7c@linux...
>> That's your daisy.
>> AA
>>
>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:450b584d@linux...
>>> The only thing I can see for this is to "clear the Real Time Clock RAM
>>> in CMOS". This would "clear the CMOS memory of date, time, and system
>>> setup parameters by erasing the CMOS RTC RAM data".
>>>
>>> This involves removing the onboard battery and moving jumper cap from
>>> pins 1-2 to pins 2-3., then back to pins 1-2, then reinstalling the
>>> battery. It says you have to enter the BIOS and re-enter data.
>>>
>>> Is this the thing to do?
>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>> news:450b4d10@linux...
>>>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper
>>>> on the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>
>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On
>>>>> that blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the
>>>>> error message "USB device over current status detected". Then the
>>>>> computer shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the
>>>>>> manual and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1
>>>>>> (irq4), floppy (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard
>>>>>> audio and USB, Keep the LAN on so you can network but I would try
>>>>>> only slots 3 and 4 only first. Notice how they don't even show audio
>>>>>> sharing with anything. This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the hell
>>>>>> is this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what?
>>>>>> Inquiring minds !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What is
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> EDS
>>>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in
>>>>>>>> bios and
>>>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any
>>>>>>>> device that
>>>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on a
>>>>>>>> shared
>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes by
>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various
>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>> slots
>>>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will
>>>>>>>>>> have the
>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these
>>>>>>>>>> worthless for
>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as
>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interrupt
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort to
>>>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resulting
>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Nice Roger Nichols tips:
Summary:
Mix reverb of master mix back in with master mix.
Split vocal to multiple verbs that trigger based on vocal volume (or ride
faders on multiple channels with different verbs).
Today we use individual sends on individual channels to send to individual
reverbs, sometimes lots of them. One thing I have noticed with many older
songs is that it sounds like there are not just certain instruments going
to certain reverbs. Frequently it sounds like there is just one reverb but,
more importantly than that, it sounds like there's only one reverb send and
it's tapped off the master fader (either mono or stereo). I hear the kick
drum, guitars, bass, vocal, strings, everything at mix-relative levels in
the reverb. (I doubt this was a creative call, so much as a "necessity is
the mother of invention" thing. I doubt there were aux sends on the console,
so they tapped from the master fader and sent it to a chamber and then reinserted
it into the stereo mix.) I can take a mix that sounds really far away from
a classic 60s song and toss the "universal 'verb" on it and it transforms
the mix to being nearly identical. It's a mix "glue" thing.
I'm not saying this is a trick that will work for anyone today, but it certainly
makes a "new mix" sound a lot more like an "old mix" from 50 years ago. Sometimes
you just have to strip away 99% of the options we have today to get back
to the methods and sounds they got back when they didn't have 99% of what
we have today.
I like to find one reverb and use it as a main reverb for the whole song,
sending everything to it a little bit, says Nichols. Then for the vocal,
I'll use three or four different reverbs, splitting out the vocal to different
tracks [or channels]. When the vocal gets louder, the quality of the reverb
changes because it's sending to a different unit. When the vocal is soft,
maybe the reverb has a long decay time so it's nice and moody and has all
this big ambience. That long, three-second reverb doesn't work when the person's
screaming into it; it will be two choruses before the thing finally decays.
Taking the vocal apart and splitting it out to different tracks allows you
to give the loud parts of the vocal a completely different reverb send and
completely different compressor or EQ settings than the soft parts. You
can clone tracks so you've got two vocals or two snare drums one for the
cross stick, another when he's playing the snare and make them different.
Doing those things will really make the mix easier.
You want something to go to the back of the mix, put reverb on it. This is
the most fundamental psychoacoustic trick we have.
Usually by the second verse, if you've got a drum machine at pretty constant
volume or parts that aren't dynamic, you're not noticing them anymore, says
Pensado. But if you just kind of yank a drum up here, or something up there,
your ear finds it and you'll remember it for another 32 bars or so. Something
I've learned from the visual analogy is that it's okay to make things loud
for one or two bars, then tuck them back where they should be. It's okay
to take the kick drum and at the beginning of every eight bars turn it up
8 dB. Make it stupid loud. The engineers might say, ‘Ooh, did you hear that?’,
but 99.9 percent of the people who buy the record are going to go, ‘That's
cool!’
Okay, lots of different speakers. But what exactly are you listening for?
A lot of the music I do requires the kick drum to be as important as the
guitars are in a Led Zeppelin song, says Pensado. If you're listening on
the big speakers, you can be thinking ‘Man, it's Grammy time!’ then you go
down to the Auratones and there's nothing there. That tells you the frequencies
below 100 cycles are right where they need to be, but the frequencies above
there are pretty much nonexistent. This gets into the area of psychoacoustics.
You're not ever going to get the low end from the kick drum to come out of
the set of Auratones. But what you can get are the frequencies that make
you think you're hearing the lower frequencies. That could be anything from
200 to 3K.
I'll add another trick to that: If you have a word or just a silable out
of tune, put it in a separate track. Then you can play with auto tune and
just fix that one section without subjecting the whole song to auto tune-
Of course make sure you have the same EQ compression and reverb as the rest
of that section of the song or it'll sound real funny.
John
In Paris you could ride faders on multiple split vocals even automate mutes.Alrighty. then. I tried the battery/jumper-cap thingie with great success.
Booted right up, with obvious changes to BIOS and VGA buffers and all else.
Then I made a few of the various previously suggested BIOS changes with
which I felt comfortable and got 1 hr 15 minutes of good, vital work done.
I've had a few different troubles these past few days (months). Tonight I
have tried a various few fixes, and experienced some vexing troubles and
corresponding victories, but I haven't had time tonight to really
stress-test things. I'm not convinced that things are tight yet, as I've
been far too bedeviled in recent days to relax now without several
sessions-worth of hard use.
Gotta session off-site tomorrow (Swen's studio), so I'll be back on my own
rig Sunday (yay NFL football!).
I just want to thank everybody here for their sincere and dilligent efforts
in helping an ignernt fellow like myself. I wish I could make all of you a
big banquet dinner in thanks. I'm a damn fine cook, just not so much a damn
fine computer tech.
I figure I'll start a new thread if things aren't right yet. I got us off on
a defective-BIOS tangent there.....the rig did feel pretty good there for an
hour or so, though.....
Jimmy
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:450b60d5@linux...
> yup
>
> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:450b5d6b@linux...
>> Ummm, I'm sorta freaked out and wanting precision right now. You mean,
>> "That's the ticket", right?
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:450b5c7c@linux...
>>> That's your daisy.
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:450b584d@linux...
>>>> The only thing I can see for this is to "clear the Real Time Clock RAM
>>>> in CMOS". This would "clear the CMOS memory of date, time, and system
>>>> setup parameters by erasing the CMOS RTC RAM data".
>>>>
>>>> This involves removing the onboard battery and moving jumper cap from
>>>> pins 1-2 to pins 2-3., then back to pins 1-2, then reinstalling the
>>>> battery. It says you have to enter the BIOS and re-enter data.
>>>>
>>>> Is this the thing to do?
>>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:450b4d10@linux...
>>>>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper
>>>>> on the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>>>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On
>>>>>> that blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the
>>>>>> error message "USB device over current status detected". Then the
>>>>>> computer shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the
>>>>>>> manual and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1
>>>>>>> (irq4), floppy (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard
>>>>>>> audio and USB, Keep the LAN on so you can network but I would try
>>>>>>> only slots 3 and 4 only first. Notice how they don't even show audio
>>>>>>> sharing with anything. This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the
>>>>>>> hell is this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what?
>>>>>>> Inquiring minds !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What
>>>>>>>> is it
>>>>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> EDS
>>>>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in
>>>>>>>>> bios and
>>>>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any
>>>>>>>>> device that
>>>>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on
>>>>>>>>> a shared
>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes
>>>>>>>>> by shows
>>>>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various
>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>> slots
>>>>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will
>>>>>>>>>>> have the
>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these
>>>>>>>>>>> worthless for
>>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as
>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interrupt
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuttering in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resulting
>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Deej, does the Alesis have fans? I'm looking for something to power my NS10's
that I recently got, but don't have a machine room, so it would have to be
quiet.
Rod
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:450a8f1f$1@linux...
>>
>> I just finished a rush session. They needed 10 copies of the CD, and
I
>suggested
>> that we check it out in the car before commiting to 10 copies. The NS10s
>> were bang on. No tweaking needed. Reverb levels, vocal levels, eq,
>everything
>> - bang on - and bang on despite the car system sounding very different.
>These
>> things are worth their weight in gold.
>>
>> I was also able to fix a problem in the accoustic guitar track that they
>> brought with them. I could hear the problem at 1k immediately. Didn't
>even
>> need to sweep the eq.
>>
>> These represent the best money I have ever spent.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mike
>
>I'm starting to become a true believer in these too. Now that I'm used to
>them, I'm using them nearfield (with a subwoofer) as my primary monitors
and
>using my NHT's midfield as a safety net. I'm also really impressed with
the
>Alesis Matica 900 power amp that is driving these (270 WPC into 8 ohms).
>Very accurate sounding but smooth with no audible distortion at higher dB
>levels than I'll ever use for mixing.
>
>
>Cool beans.
>
>That's the one....don't be afraid
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:450b584d@linux...
> The only thing I can see for this is to "clear the Real Time Clock RAM in
> CMOS". This would "clear the CMOS memory of date, time, and system setup
> parameters by erasing the CMOS RTC RAM data".
>
> This involves removing the onboard battery and moving jumper cap from pins
> 1-2 to pins 2-3., then back to pins 1-2, then reinstalling the battery. It
> says you have to enter the BIOS and re-enter data.
>
> Is this the thing to do?
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:450b4d10@linux...
>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant jumper on
>> the motherboard...it's in the manual.
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:450b4198@linux...
>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
>>>
>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up. On
>>> that blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get the
>>> error message "USB device over current status detected". Then the
>>> computer shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix it.
>>>
>>> Heeeeeelp!
>>>
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the manual
>>>> and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1 (irq4), floppy
>>>> (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off onboard audio and USB,
>>>> Keep the LAN on so you can network but I would try only slots 3 and 4
>>>> only first. Notice how they don't even show audio sharing with
>>>> anything. This diagram is craptastic.
>>>>
>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
>>>>
>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the hell
>>>> is this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what? Inquiring
>>>> minds !
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates. In
>>>>> other
>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What is
>>>>> it
>>>>> shared with?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make sure
>>>>>> your
>>>>> EDS
>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in bios
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any device
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be on a
>>>>>> shared
>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes by
>>>>>> shows
>>>>>> this correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are usually
>>>>> available
>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs various PCI
>>>>> slots
>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against letters of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> alphabet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>> They
>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will have
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these worthless
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board, chances
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire port
>>>>>>>> (thus
>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for AMD
>>>>>>>> CPU's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2 under
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the AGP
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath that
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial port
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
>>>>> assigned
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> PCI
>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and interrupt
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort to
>>>>>>>> simplify
>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached, internal
>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins stuttering
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows, and I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules used
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris. Resulting
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4 times,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made some tweaks to the configuration with some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> success.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening less and less, but they still pop up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>It has a fan, but a very quiet one that only kicks in when necessary.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:450b8300$1@linux...
>
> Deej, does the Alesis have fans? I'm looking for something to power my
NS10's
> that I recently got, but don't have a machine room, so it would have to be
> quiet.
> Rod
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:450a8f1f$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I just finished a rush session. They needed 10 copies of the CD, and
> I
> >suggested
> >> that we check it out in the car before commiting to 10 copies. The
NS10s
> >> were bang on. No tweaking needed. Reverb levels, vocal levels, eq,
> >everything
> >> - bang on - and bang on despite the car system sounding very different.
> >These
> >> things are worth their weight in gold.
> >>
> >> I was also able to fix a problem in the accoustic guitar track that
they
> >> brought with them. I could hear the problem at 1k immediately. Didn't
> >even
> >> need to sweep the eq.
> >>
> >> These represent the best money I have ever spent.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >> Mike
> >
> >I'm starting to become a true believer in these too. Now that I'm used to
> >them, I'm using them nearfield (with a subwoofer) as my primary monitors
> and
> >using my NHT's midfield as a safety net. I'm also really impressed with
> the
> >Alesis Matica 900 power amp that is driving these (270 WPC into 8 ohms).
> >Very accurate sounding but smooth with no audible distortion at higher dB
> >levels than I'll ever use for mixing.
> >
> >
> >Cool beans.
> >
> >
>Mine is right under my mix position. I don't hear it at all. Here's an SOS
review. I concur with what is said at the end of the article where it talks
about (lack of) fan noise. Noise is not an issue with mine.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/jun95/alesisma tica.html
These things are extremely heavy. Mine feels as heavy as my Furman IT 1210
which is around 60 lbs. That a lot for a 2u unit.
Deej
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:450b8ce3@linux...
> It has a fan, but a very quiet one that only kicks in when necessary.
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:450b8300$1@linux...
> >
> > Deej, does the Alesis have fans? I'm looking for something to power my
> NS10's
> > that I recently got, but don't have a machine room, so it would have to
be
> > quiet.
> > Rod
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:450a8f1f$1@linux...
> > >>
> > >> I just finished a rush session. They needed 10 copies of the CD, and
> > I
> > >suggested
> > >> that we check it out in the car before commiting to 10 copies. The
> NS10s
> > >> were bang on. No tweaking needed. Reverb levels, vocal levels, eq,
> > >everything
> > >> - bang on - and bang on despite the car system sounding very
different.
> > >These
> > >> things are worth their weight in gold.
> > >>
> > >> I was also able to fix a problem in the accoustic guitar track that
> they
> > >> brought with them. I could hear the problem at 1k immediately.
Didn't
> > >even
> > >> need to sweep the eq.
> > >>
> > >> These represent the best money I have ever spent.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers!
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >
> > >I'm starting to become a true believer in these too. Now that I'm used
to
> > >them, I'm using them nearfield (with a subwoofer) as my primary
monitors
> > and
> > >using my NHT's midfield as a safety net. I'm also really impressed with
> > the
> > >Alesis Matica 900 power amp that is driving these (270 WPC into 8
ohms).
> > >Very accurate sounding but smooth with no audible distortion at higher
dB
> > >levels than I'll ever use for mixing.
> > >
> > >
> > >Cool beans.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>Jimmy,
Glad you're getting this resolved. At your earliest opportunity, get rid of
that bios and go back to the one previous to the USB overcurrent warning.
Really man. That bios you're running right now is a disaster waiting for a
place to happen, and happen, and happen again.....I promise. It's going to
bite you at the worst time and you're going to have to continuously clear
the CMOS to get your machine to function as long as you're running that
bios. Nothing worse than a computer that won't boot.
Deej
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:450b7e60@linux...
> Alrighty. then. I tried the battery/jumper-cap thingie with great success.
> Booted right up, with obvious changes to BIOS and VGA buffers and all
else.
>
> Then I made a few of the various previously suggested BIOS changes with
> which I felt comfortable and got 1 hr 15 minutes of good, vital work done.
>
> I've had a few different troubles these past few days (months). Tonight I
> have tried a various few fixes, and experienced some vexing troubles and
> corresponding victories, but I haven't had time tonight to really
> stress-test things. I'm not convinced that things are tight yet, as I've
> been far too bedeviled in recent days to relax now without several
> sessions-worth of hard use.
>
> Gotta session off-site tomorrow (Swen's studio), so I'll be back on my own
> rig Sunday (yay NFL football!).
>
> I just want to thank everybody here for their sincere and dilligent
efforts
> in helping an ignernt fellow like myself. I wish I could make all of you a
> big banquet dinner in thanks. I'm a damn fine cook, just not so much a
damn
> fine computer tech.
>
> I figure I'll start a new thread if things aren't right yet. I got us off
on
> a defective-BIOS tangent there.....the rig did feel pretty good there for
an
> hour or so, though.....
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:450b60d5@linux...
> > yup
> >
> > "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:450b5d6b@linux...
> >> Ummm, I'm sorta freaked out and wanting precision right now. You mean,
> >> "That's the ticket", right?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >> news:450b5c7c@linux...
> >>> That's your daisy.
> >>> AA
> >>>
> >>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:450b584d@linux...
> >>>> The only thing I can see for this is to "clear the Real Time Clock
RAM
> >>>> in CMOS". This would "clear the CMOS memory of date, time, and system
> >>>> setup parameters by erasing the CMOS RTC RAM data".
> >>>>
> >>>> This involves removing the onboard battery and moving jumper cap from
> >>>> pins 1-2 to pins 2-3., then back to pins 1-2, then reinstalling the
> >>>> battery. It says you have to enter the BIOS and re-enter data.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this the thing to do?
> >>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> >>>> news:450b4d10@linux...
> >>>>> All you need do is reset the BIOS by shorting out the relevant
jumper
> >>>>> on the motherboard...it's in the manual.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Martin Harrington
> >>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:450b4198@linux...
> >>>>>>I disabledall but the com1 and lpt 1. Can't find them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bad news is, and this is really bad news, computer won't boot up.
On
> >>>>>> that blcak page that n ow doesn't flash by so fast at all, I get
the
> >>>>>> error message "USB device over current status detected". Then the
> >>>>>> computer shuts down. Won't boot up, won't let me go to BIOS to fix
> >>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Heeeeeelp!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450b3aac$1@linux...
> >>>>>>> It looks like another messed up Asus manual. I downloaded the
> >>>>>>> manual and on page 2-18 it has that pic. I would turn off Com1
> >>>>>>> (irq4), floppy (irq 6), lpt1 (irq 7), Serial port, turn off
onboard
> >>>>>>> audio and USB, Keep the LAN on so you can network but I would try
> >>>>>>> only slots 3 and 4 only first. Notice how they don't even show
audio
> >>>>>>> sharing with anything. This diagram is craptastic.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And turn off Hyper Threading.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do ME and favor and call them on the phone and ask then what the
> >>>>>>> hell is this diagram means. Simply, what slots share with what?
> >>>>>>> Inquiring minds !
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I guess I don't understand what the Alphabetized row indicates.
In
> >>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>> words, if PCI slot 1 "shared" with 'F', what does that mean? What
> >>>>>>>> is it
> >>>>>>>> shared with?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:450af67f$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>> Use the second section that shows what are shared. Then make
sure
> >>>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>> EDS
> >>>>>>>>> cards are NOT on them. For example, turn off onboard audio in
> >>>>>>>>> bios and
> >>>>>>>>> now you can use the slot that shares with onboard audio. Any
> >>>>>>>>> device that
> >>>>>>>>> you are using like AGP video you DO NOT want an EDS card to be
on
> >>>>>>>>> a shared
> >>>>>>>>> slot.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On boot up check to make sure that the black screen that flashes
> >>>>>>>>> by shows
> >>>>>>>>> this correctly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Okay, on the IRQ page in the manual, it has two sections:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. "Standard interrupt assignments", which list IRQ numbers and
> >>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>> "standard function". (This section does list 7 "IRQs are
usually
> >>>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>>>>> for PCI devices")
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2. "IRQ" assignments for this motherboard", which graphs
various
> >>>>>>>>>> PCI
> >>>>>>>> slots
> >>>>>>>>>> or USB controllers as "nil", "shared", or "used" against
letters
> >>>>>>>>>> of the
> >>>>>>>>>> alphabet.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I don't know how to use these two sets of data to resolve my
> >>>>>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>> They
> >>>>>>>>>> seem incompatible. I feel ignernt.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:450a0f48@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.....well .......letsee.........ASUS boards normally will
> >>>>>>>>>>> have the
> >>>>>>>>> AGP
> >>>>>>>>>>> sharing an IRQ with two PCI slots, basically making these
> >>>>>>>>>>> worthless for
> >>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
> >>>>>>>>>>> How many PCI slots does your mobo have?
> >>>>>>>>>>> If it's a 5 slot board and it's similar to an AMD board,
chances
> >>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> PCI slots 1 and 5 are shared with the AGP and the firewire
port
> >>>>>>>>>>> (thus
> >>>>>>>>>> making
> >>>>>>>>>>> FW audio interfaces iffy also if using the onboard FW)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> PCI slot 2 may share with your LAN controller
> >>>>>>>>>>> PCI #3 may share with onboard RAID and SATA controller
> >>>>>>>>>>> PCI 4 may not share with anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This is the way the ASUS A8V mobo is configured but it's for
AMD
> >>>>>>>>>>> CPU's.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the manual? All of this is listed in chapter 2
under
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> heading
> >>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt Assignments. It should be noted for Intel mobo's as
> >>>>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If it's 6, try putting the EDS card in PCI 2, 3, 4 or 5
> >>>>>>>>>>> If it's 5, try PCI slot 1,
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>> news:4509fd03@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's an Asus P5P800 SE board with a Pentium 4 HT chip.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509f8fc@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of mobo are you using Jimmy?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509eda3@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any place where it indicated which IRQ the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IRQ page had all IRQs assigned to "PCI", and beneath
that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> PCI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots all assigned to "AUTO". On another page the serial
port
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to IRQ 4, and the parallel port was assigned to IRQ 7. So I
> >>>>>>>> assigned
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PCI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slots to other numbers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am I on the wrong track here?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4509da19@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeat after me:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IRQ!! IRQ!! IRQ!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the EDS card is sharing and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interrupt
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGP
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:45098f86$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-ho.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am still having trouble with my Paris rig. In an effort
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> simplify
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only have one card installed, with an MEC attached,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> clocking.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, my problems are down to two:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.The "now-line" freezes, or more actually begins
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuttering in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-motion, almost glacial. I can still change windows,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
> >>>>>>>>> am
> >>>>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save and close, then re-open Paris with success.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.On starting Paris, I get an error message: "I/O modules
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting not avaiable in this configuration of Paris.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resulting
> >>>>>>>>>> audio
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be different than when saved." This will pop up 2 or 4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times,
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I push "play" no audio is heard. Then I close, reopen,
and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>> things
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a while.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>&
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| Re: Monsoon season in Colorado [message #71085 is a reply to message #71075] |
Fri, 11 August 2006 19:25 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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ot; <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:450a3f07@linux...
Yes
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:450a3e45@linux...
Same rig.. you mean my pre and amp setup?
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:450a3d8f@linux...
Aaron,
Matching amp/cabs are a no brainer but not always exactly =
right.
But the right speakers can sound like ass in a bad cab too.
These days we are required to get all the guitar sounds on =
every
CD when in a cover situation. It's harder than a one sound =
only band.
In general the smaller cabs have a harder time with the low =
end
unless they're open back but then it's a little uncontrolled
due to rear reflections, wall and stage resonance. If you end =
up=20
having to over eq to get it, it won't sound natural. I love =
to see my=20
pants get wind torn from the low end as long as it's tight.
My buddy used to have that same rig if I'm not mistaken.
He used Thiele cabs with it. It sounded really good. I'm=20
not sure it sounded as good as it could with the Thiele=20
cabs though. Nice to spread them out for stereo!
Good luck with your search,
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:450a3340@linux...
Good info.... I like the idea of the smaller cab, and the =
lower wattage=20
speaks, but I'm a little spooked at the total lack of specs =
locatable on the=20
net about these guys... I don't want a cab that can't get =
anything under say=20
90hz... that'd suck.
Hemp cone, eh?
I wonder if they'll just lay around eating Cheetos, watching =
TV and react=20
sluggishly when I ask them to help around the house or get a =
job :)
We agree on the alnico/ceramic debate. Like Alnico in a =
pickup.. not so much=20
in a speaker.
AA
"DC" <dc@spammersatGC.com> wrote in message =
news:450a2ec6$1@linux...
>
> I think the cheaper cabinet will most likely involve the =
chinese
> made celestions which I have not heard good things about.
>
> You really need to hear a cabinet with your amp. There =
are
> big differences to be found.
>
>
> At last year's NAMM, I was really knocked out by the
> Tone Tubby hempcone speakers.
>
> They have 4x12's.
>
> http://www.tonetubby.com/cabinet.htm
>
> Very impressive and at reasonable levels too.
>
> BTW, I like the punch and clarity of ceramic magnet =
speakers
> much better than the over-rated AlNiCo. Much more =
dynamic.
>
> So, you could get a TT ceramic 4x12 for 1100 or so. I =
think
> they just sound amazing.
>
> DC
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I'm looking at picking up a 4x12 to club gig with. Anybody =
got experience
> to
>>share with me about these models??
>>Is there 'really' a $1000 dollars worth of difference in =
tone from bottom
> to
>>top with them, is it mechanics (like say, casters and =
handles)?
>>I will be driving it with a 60wpc tube amp with a tube =
preamp front end.
> I
>>want the elusive 'brown sound' distortion and super clear =
cleans... which
>
>>the amp/preamp combo is certainly capable of giving me. =
It's the cabs that
>
>>suck on my current gear (2 unmatched 2x12's) - I wish to =
move to one=20
>>stereo
>
>>matched cab, and I'm not afraid to rewire it if that =
matters.
>>Many thanks in advance!
>>
>>
>>https://www.zzounds.com/item--MSHMG412A
>>$450.00 $279.95
>>Angled-front version.
>>Power: 120 watts
>>Impedance: 8 ohms
>>Speakers: 4 x 12 in. Marshall/Celestion custom-designed =
speakers (30W=20
>>each)
>>Dimensions (W x H x D): 26.4 x 26.4 x 14.0 in.
>>
>>
>>http://www.zzounds.com/item--MSH1960A
>>$1,150.00 $649.95
>>Angled-front version.
>>Black grille cloth
>>White piping
>>Black elephant grain vinyl
>>Speaker: 4 x 12 in. G12T-75
>>Power: 300 watt
>>Impedance: 4 or 16 ohms mono/8 ohms stereo
>>Dimensions: 760 x 830 x 360mm
>>Weight: 36.4 kg
>>
>>
>>http://www.zzounds.com/item--MSH1960AX
>>$1,500.00 $1,049.00
>>Angled front
>>Vintage-circa early 70's
>>Checkered cloth
>>White piping
>>Medium size white logo
>>Black Levant vinyl
>>Gold beading on Cab
>>Speakers: 4 Celestion G12 M-25w SPKR-00016
>>Power: 100 watts
>>Impedance: 16 ohm
>>Dimensions: 760 x 830 x 360 mm
>>Weight: 37.7 kg
>>Cover: COVR-00022 optional
>>
>>
>>http://www.zzounds.com/item--MSH1960AHW
>>$1,800.00 $1,200.00
>>Loaded with Celestion G12H-30 re-issue speakers.
>>To complement the 1959HW's visual and sonic majesty, =
Marshall offers the
>
>>1960AHW (angled) 4x12 cabinet. It boasts basket weave fret =
cloth, metal
>
>>handles, "100" logos, and is loaded with Celestion's =
highly-acclaimed
>>G12H-30 re-issue speakers.
>>
>>
>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is Jeff's response to your amp=20
setup:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D547234313-15092006></SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D547234313-15092006></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D547234313-15092006>Here's some ideas for =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D547234313-15092006>Aaron:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547234313-15092006>Aaron,=20
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547234313-15092006>Here=20
are some general comments - I could really go on for days on this=20
topic.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547234313-15092006>For a=20
preamp setup, I use a Boogie triaxis with 90/90 power amp and 2 GK90s =
cabs and a=20
TC electronics Gmajor</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D547234313-15092006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV >
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547234313-15092006>First=20
off, the 60/60 is a very good stereo power amp - I wish I never sold =
mine.The 4=20
x6L6 give good clean transient response.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547234313-15092006>I used=20
that with a Rockton preamp (solid state), ART multiverb =
III and a=20
peavey 4x4 cab loaded with celestion GK90s and wired in stereo for=20
years.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547234313-15092006>That=20
was a good combo because the power amp saturated gracefully, =
the pro G.A.P=20
had a ton of gain and the cab had a very beefy low =
mid resonance=20
- which compensated for the thinness of the preamp. It was a =
huge=20
stereo sound that I liked at the time - and I was competing with =
Marshalls which=20
sounded much worse, i.m.h.o.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547234313-15092006>(BTW=20
Celestion changed there manufacturing base - they make the GK90s in =
china=20
now, boogie didn't like them and requested that they custom make =
90's for=20
them - I believe they are called the 'Filmore'). I also have =
GK90s=20
(Filmore) in all my cabs and combos - so yes I like them, =
and=20
overall I find them to be very versitile. The are great clean and dirty =
- but=20
they are 90 watts a piece!!!. You have to push them a bit to get the =
tone.=20
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