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| Re: OT - Waves NPP 2.3 - any chance in XP? [message #79347 is a reply to message #79260] |
Wed, 31 January 2007 18:40  |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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we understand it,
is real, is not agnostic, it is atheist. It is an act of faith that
"science" as we know it, can explain everything. I am certain
that our definition of the natural is entirely too small, and if
so, as Clarke said:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
magic"
So, of naturalism cannot explain everything, don't you think that
would impact your definition of proof?
Which is it? How do you differentiate between atheism and
agnosticism?
>> than those who have provided the gospel canon to us, and
>> rejected some of the other writings, may have done so for
>> a good reason.
>Absolutely. My belief is that that good reason was and is to control
>the masses and indeed, keep them from true enlightenment, since
>enlightened individuals rarely make for an orderly society.
And so, there it is. Christianity is the opiate of the masses.
Ok, well. I certainly see where you are coming from.
Define enlightened.
>> What are your assumptions?
>(Since you asked...) :-) I believe I have articulated many of my
>assumptions through my questions, but adding to the previous paragraph,
>and to put it in the proverbial nutshell, I am not an atheist, I do not
>believe in the inerrancy of scripture, I believe that both canonical and
>apochryphal writings have been chosen and modified knowingly and
>unknowingly by humans over the centuries for various reasons and
>agendas, and any cries of heresy are purely protectionist strategies. I
>assume that the importance of the Bible is primarily allegorical and I
>do not take the resurrection to be a literal event. How's that for a start?
That's a good start. And I much appreciate your honesty.
Being a non-atheist, would you say that you are a theist of
any kind? What sort?
If not, then we have a divide we cannot bridge easily.
If it is impossible, and I believe it is, for any version of
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