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Rant: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78694]

Sat, 20 January 2007 12:40

LaMont
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Re: Rant: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78696 is a reply to message #78694]

Sat, 20 January 2007 13:22

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Re: Rant: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78697 is a reply to message #78694]

Sat, 20 January 2007 12:31

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Re: Rant: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78704 is a reply to message #78694]

Sat, 20 January 2007 14:45

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Re: Rant: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78735 is a reply to message #78704]

Sun, 21 January 2007 00:50

LaMontt

Messages: 424
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

f56a$1@linux...
>
>
>>Went well. I'm definitely going to have to get my head around the whole
>>cue mix functionality and punching in/out though. that's someting I knew
>>I'd miss about Paris. It is just so great for tracking and punching
>>(sigh).
>>
>>Well anyway.......time for another learning curve to begin.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>
>O'yeah.........also, I think I'm gonna miss the Paris converters. I'm using
>RME ADI8-DS and Multiface here and they are just so friggin uncolored that
>it's sorta' startling. I think Paris converters have a bit of a
>darker/sweet/mellow coloration that is part of the overall vibe of the
>system. I'm so used to hearing the Paris conversion that it's absence was
>pretty obvious.
>
>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Hi Deej,

I don't get to use that many of the cue mix functions in Cubase but I've
found the punch in/ out and general recording functions way easier than
any program I've ever used.
Especially when you setup a folder track for your multi track recording.
Major fun being able to hit one button to punch in and out of 100 tracks
at once with one key command and no hiccups or pause when doing it. The
asterisk key is your friend...

Chris

DJ wrote:

>Went well. I'm definitely going to have to get my head around the whole cue
>mix functionality and punching in/out though. that's someting I knew I'd
>miss about Paris. It is just so great for tracking and punching (sigh).
>
>Well anyway.......time for another learning curve to begin.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Check out page 152 of the manual. Using any of the 4 cue mixes, you can
select a bunch of tracks in the regular mixer then go to the control
room mixer and right click over a single Studio (cue mix) and tell it to
paste all of the selected track levels to the cue mix for starting
point or even change the volume of all the cue mix sends. VERY nice.

If you don't right click over a Studio mix then it applies to all
Studios. Seems nicely done.

John

DJ wrote:
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45d7f56a$1@linux...
>> Went well. I'm definitely going to have to get my head around the whole
>> cue mix functionality and punching in/out though. that's someting I knew
>> I'd miss about Paris. It is just so great for tracking and punching
>> (sigh).
>>
>> Well anyway.......time for another learning curve to begin.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>
> O'yeah.........also, I think I'm gonna miss the Paris converters. I'm using
> RME ADI8-DS and Multiface here and they are just so friggin uncolored that
> it's sorta' startling. I think Paris converters have a bit of a
> darker/sweet/mellow coloration that is part of the overall vibe of the
> system. I'm so used to hearing the Paris conversion that it's absence was
> pretty obvious.
>
>Also check out stacked mode which allows you to loop a section and build
up takes for you to com

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Re: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78826 is a reply to message #78694]

Mon, 22 January 2007 12:08

Doug Wellington

Messages: 251
Registered: June 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ, USA

Senior Member

t;>>>>> news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI Brandon,
>>>>>>> Driver -
>>>>>>> Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers. You
>>>>> can
>>>>>
>>>>>>> at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in the
>>>>>>> internal routing control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>>>> dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>>>> Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the headphone
>>>>>
>>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>>> Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues then
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>> unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>
>>>>>>> unit with some other device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Focusrite Sapphire Pro is the only other in that price range with
>>>>>
>>>>>>> similar features. It doesn't have the routing features of the Presonus
>>>>> but
>>>>>
>>>>>>> has the same number of I/O.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU and
>>>>> RME
>>>>>
>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the the budget is an issues then I would recommend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any of these would work in that budget and give you the cuemix
>>>>>>> controls
>>>>>
>>>>>>> similar to Presonus and RME.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1x MOTU 8Pre
>>>>>>> 1x Presonus Digimax FS
>>>>>>> $1080.00
>>>>>>> This will give you 16 analog ins and 12 analog outs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2x MOTU 8 Pre - $1070.00
>>>>>>> This will give you 16 analog in 4 analog outs (8 if you count the
>>>>>>> seperate headphones)
>>>>>>> You will also have 16 channels of ADAT to use. So if you add 2
>>>>>>> DigimaxFS
>>>>>
>>>>>>> to each of those you could have 32 analog ins and 24 outs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brandon wrote:

http://www.parisfaqs.com

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Re: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78881 is a reply to message #78826]

Tue, 23 January 2007 13:39

LAMont[3]
Messages: 5
Registered: August 2006

Junior Member

gt; Still learning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually I think I will hook them both up via firewire directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the comp. Then I will monitor thru the Presonus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It claims to have 0 latency. I will just have to test it both
>>>>> ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Either
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way that should give me the ability to record 32 inputs at
>> one
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 16 ADAT plus midi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dont know if the computer or firewire bandwidth can handle
>> recordin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> gthat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many tracks at once but the hardware capability is there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now it is going to be:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cubase SX3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 MOTU 8 pre (via Firewire)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 Presonus Digimax FS (linked to MOTU via ADAT)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 DBX 586 preamps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monitors my Mackie 824s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASUS MB A7N8X-Deluxe E
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows XP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP3000+ CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Re: The Pro Audio Industry is Full of Shit!! [message #78913 is a reply to message #78881]

Wed, 24 January 2007 09:29

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

;>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have 8 pres but the first 2 are instrument level for plugging
>>>>>> electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitars/bass guitars into. If you plug line level in they
>>> will
>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like shit (hissy) so you're down to 6 pres........but wait......If
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your line ins into the INSERTS for 1 & 2 on the back all
>is
>>>> perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. They didn't document that and I had to call the
>company.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding latency, i got the 9652 rme and have all 3 going
>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adats.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an expensive card $500 or so but I know latency
is
>a
>>>> big
>>>>>>>> deal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the digimax doesn't have firewire you have to adat
>in
>>>> so
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really want a card on the motherboard to do that with I
>think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still learning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually I think I will hook them both up via firewire
>directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the comp. Then I will monitor thru the Presonus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It claims to have 0 latency. I will just have to test
it
>both
>>>>>>> ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way that should give me the ability to record 32 inputs
>at
>>>> one
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 16 ADAT plus midi.

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