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------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C6DADE.77255CD0--Hey Dedric,

I think I can answer your last question (i.e., where did our "moral
absolutes" come from if not from God?).
Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71266 is a reply to message #71264] Tue, 15 August 2006 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't murder because I don't want
to be murdered. I don't steal because I don't want to be stolen from. I
don't lie because I don't want to be lied to. And so on. I have faith that
most human beings have an inate sense of "goodness," but I believe in laws
just so a society has written agreement on what behaviour is unacceptable.
That way, we're protected against those who may be out of touch with their
own personal "sense of goodness." I do believe, though, that the worst
among us are basically good underneath their rage and pain.

I watched an HBO documentary the other night called, "The Iceman and the
Psychi
Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71267 is a reply to message #71264] Tue, 15 August 2006 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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atrist," about imprisoned serial killer/hit man Richard Kuklinski and
his attempt to better understand his nature with the help of a shrink. What
really struck me as I watched and listened to this terrifying man is that I
still felt that inside the monster was still a flicker of that distant
"inate goodness."

It seems as though what I think of as inate goodness is what you call
God, and that works for me. I think it's possible, though, that the "inate
goodness" came from millennia of learning the hard way how not to live
together with other humans. Even at that, though, one could argue that it
was
Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71269 is a reply to message #71264] Tue, 15 August 2006 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ose that the same sense of faith
> we use to start a business, or enter into marriage, or believe that we'll
> see the next day, is part of the desire and drive that God has designed in
> us to propel us forward, and draw us to Him as well. It is a part of
> being
> human - a feeling, thinking, growing, individual.
>
> The point was that moral absolutes aren't based on religion, and wouldn't
> be
> moral absolutes if they were. The idea of God-defined absolutes excludes
> the possibility that man could create or change that absolute.
>
> By saying that man creates absolutes based on his religions says that his
> religion is false (created
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nably, not to act with logos (word or
reason) is contrary to the nature of God,’.… It is to this great
logos, to this breadth of reason, that we invite our partners in
the dialogue of cultures.”

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Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71326 is a reply to message #71269] Wed, 16 August 2006 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> > >>> Emperor: “‘Not to act reasonably, not to act with logos (word or
> >>> reason) is contrary to the nature of God,’.… It is to this great
> >>> logos, to this breadth of reason, that we invite our partners in
> >>> the dialogue of cultures.”
> >>>
> >>> Their fear of reason can only lead the world to disaster.
> >>>
> >
> >Hi Dedric,

Don't take my comments as an indication that I have no "faith" in a higher
power, but couldn't our ability to feel empathy be one possible reason that
the majority of people might have similar morals. I don't think an atheist
knows murder is wrong just because god said "thou shalt not kill". I think
the golden rule has a lot to do with it. Over time, we have learned as
empa
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not bound even by his own word.." This is not seen as an insult.
>> >>> Islam embraces this description. In offering this description of
>> >>> Islam, Benedict refers to the views of leading modern French
>> >>> Islamist R. Arnaldez as discussed in the writings of Professor
>> >>> Theodore Khoury of Munster.
>> >>>
>> >>> Likewise the secularists express no dismay at the pope's
>> >>> characterization of a secularist as: "(A) subject (who) then
>> >>> decides, on the basis of his experiences, what he considers
>> >>> tenable in matters of religion, and the subjective 'conscience'
>> >>> becomes the sole arbiter of what is ethical."
>> >>>
>> >>> Benedict asserts that without reason, or without God, there can
>> >>> be no modern system of morality. He explains, "In this
>> >>> way.ethics and religion lose their power to create a community
>> >>> and become (instead) a completely personal matter."
>> >>>
>> >>> Both Islamist and secularist seek to break God and reason apart.
>> >>> Each claims superiority over the Christian West. They believe
>> >>> absolute moral license makes them powerful. As globalization
>> >>> carries the Western tradition of reason throughout the wo
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gt;> The Golden Rule may also be of use as a basic moral foundation.
>>
>> So yes, you can have a moral system, one that BTW protects the freedom
>> to practice religious beliefs (or not), without basing it on any one
>> religion. And it can protect all religions better than a system based on
>
>> any one religion (AKA a theocracy).
>>
>> There are other issues surrounding religions, such as the many examples
>
>> of selfless dedication to helping others on the one hand, and hijacked
>> religions used to legitimize earthly power structures in other cases.
>> Dedric, I look forward to talking with you about the positives and
>> negatives of various religions, and where a moral culture ought to go
>>from here, whenever we next get together.
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> Hey Jimmy,
>>>
>>> No doubt one can be a good person without believing in God - there are
> tons
>>> of great people with no faith, or very little. That in and of itself
> tells
>>> me there must be a God so even non-believers would have a strong sense
> of<
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br /> >>> right and wrong on a societal and even global level.
>>>
>>> To walk through some thoughts: with no God, or higher reference point,
> what
>>> would be considered moral, or at least good? What would one use to decide
>>> what is right and wrong?
>>>
>>> Laws? Most would agree that we can't legislate morality now, so with
> no
>>> basis for what morality is, why would we even bother with laws since
>>> everyone would make their own choices anyway?
>>>
>>> Intellect? That would simply depend on what one chose to accept as
>>> "intelligent" thought, based completely on opinion.
>>>
>>> Reasoning and Logic? Logic is determined by a hypothesis that has a proven
>>> outcome in a given situation. Change the situation, and the reasoning
> or
>>> logic behind the &q
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uot;right" or "wrong" could easily change.
>>>
>>> Experience? What if one's experience is filled with hatred, abuse, anger
>>> and violence, or worse? Then someone would have to decide whose experience
>>> we would use as a reference point. There would be no guarantee that person
>>> or persons had experiences that would be best for the good of the whole.
>>>
>>> Survival instinct? If it were a reference point, then stealing, lying,
>>> cheating and even killing would be perfectly justified as those can be
> means
>>> of survival.
>>>
>>> Why would right and wrong even exist? I would think that the differences
>>> between societies' definitions of right and wrong, assuming societies
> even
>>> existed, would be so drastic we would never have ventured into any form
> of
>>> inter-cultural/inter-geographic interaction, much less relationships,
>>> diplomacy, collaboration, trade, and open travel.
>>>
Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71358 is a reply to message #71332] Thu, 17 August 2006 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Brandon
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:4506eddc@linux...
>> >> >> > Thank You Dimitrios!!.
>> >> >> > Very Much.
>> >> >> > I will let you know how it turns out.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Brandon "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:4506e0c6$1@linux...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Sorry for the time I took to post on this...
>> >> >> > >
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Re: Charge extra to let clients sit in on mix session? [message #71386 is a reply to message #71334] Thu, 17 August 2006 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;> the
>>>>>>>>> planet. I have faith that I'll breathe my next breath, that I'll
>> see
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning. I have faith that other people are put together
>> much
>>>>>>>>> like I am and that I can therefore relate to other folks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Without faith, people would not invest money. Without faith people
>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> not vote. Without faith people would not start businesses, hire
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> people, raise children. Without faith people would not ride trains,
>>>> fly
>>>>>>>>> in planes or drive cars. Without faith no one would investigate
>>>>>>>>> scientific questions about reality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While you can clearly have faith without religion, you cannot have
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> religion without faith. Religion depends on faith that one or more
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> deities (good and sometimes bad) exist, that their associated
>>>>>>>>> stories
>>>>>>>>> actually occurred, and often, that there is some sort of afterlife.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, religious people believe in a variety of different
>>>>>>>>> deities.
>>>>>>>>> Even those who believe in the same deity disagree, sometimes
>>>>>>>>> violently,
>>>>>>>>> about the nature of their deity. Religions sometimes even disagree
>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> the nature of reality. If you want to base morality strictly on
>>>>>>>>> religion, and you look around, you'll notice that religion can be
>> a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> somewhat chaotic basis unless...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah, you might say, I want to base morality on MY religion. Well,
>> you
>>>>>>>>> just dissed the majority of religions. No problem because THEY ARE
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WRONG. And people who believe in those religions may just be saying
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same thing about you and your religion. For those religions who are
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> tolerant of other ideas, you may just have started a war.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So perhaps it's BETTER, in our time, to have a system of justice
>> that
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> NOT based on a religion. But one which guarantees everyone the
>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> practice the religion of their choice, guarantees other freedoms
>> such
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> we in the USA do in our Bill of Rights, encourages honesty and
>>>>>>>>> integrity, while enforcing some common sense limits such as no
>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>> sacrifices, a minimum age for marriage, no incest, no slavery, no
>>
>>>>>>>>> murder, no rape, no stealing, those sorts of things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is viewed as morality beyond a fair justice system and common
>>>> sense
>>>>>>>>> rules of behavior can be left to each freely chosen religion to
>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>> out, like whether to restrict diet in some way, whether to wear a
>>
>>>>
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