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---=_linux43841dc9--It's alright. I worked it out.
I now have a second group running which can't see the Paris group on the
web interface, unless they go to the groups search and type in Paris, but
ya know, what are the chances...?
NNTP users of this group will still see the new group appear, but they can
ignore... ...or join in. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>I'm wanting to start myself a website based on political and otherwise related
>satire. As part of this the idea has been floated of a message board, and
>of course it so happens I have a server doing that currently, this one.
;o)
>
>The only thing is isolating the groups from each other. Obviously if I thought
>I could do this and have people from both areas remain seperate I'd just
>go do it, but unfortunately:
>
>1) Anybody on a news reader would see all the groups.
>2) Anybody who pressed the "Groups" button on the web server would get a
>list of whichever groups I have set up, but I can only make one list, so
>it would be the same for both. What's more, if you clicked the wrong group,
>the URL would still say you were at the site you came from, so you guys
could
>end up on the political satire group but still have "news.parisnewsgroup.com"
>or visa versa.
>
>Now, on the newsreader front my response would be simply not to tell political
>satire people about the NNTP service. Sure, they could find it if they actually
>tried, but who's going to try, unless they happen to recognise the web interface
>as DNews and work it out, but that's not going to be many.
>
>On the Web interface Groups button front I would have a few different options.
>One would be to remove the groups button altogether to isolate the groups.
>This would work, but would mean no groups button, and I for one use it a
>lot, and imagine others do also. Another option would be to simply put a
>warning on the Groups page explaining that the server hosts both sites,
and
>some groups are from one and some the other.
>
>Or, I could simply not share the server (other than the web hosting) which
>would keep everyone out of hear, which I am, I must admit, inclined to do,
>but it seems a waste.
>
>Last thing I want is this group being spoiled by outsiders coming in here
>and, I dunno, messing things up or whatever. Being a pain.
>
>I'm trying to thing of a technical method of fixing this, but haven't been
>able to. I'm won
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| Re: How many RME HDSP/PCI cards are possible? [message #59254 is a reply to message #59253] |
Tue, 18 October 2005 05:58 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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dering though if I could do some trick by changing the name
>of the exe and creating seperate copies of each page for the other group...
> not sure if I could do that...
>
>...but I thought I'd float the idea and see what people think, both of the
>idea of missing the web interface groups button, and of the general possibility
>of invaders from outer netspace...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.DTerry <dterry@no_spamkeyofd.net> wrote:
>I'm sure Sequoia is even better (I
>believe Sakis uses it).
Indeed he does, and is on the beta test team far as I understand.
He raves about it, and has demo'd it to me over many hours, and I must say
it is extremely impressive, and sounds great to my ear.
Cheers,
Kim.Dear Gene,
After a quick read I ahve some questions if you don't mind.
You record in DP using your Myteks at 96khz, right ?
Then you say you are submixing inside Paris... how do you do it when DP works
at 96 and Paris at 44.1 ?
I missed something here...
Next you are saying you though 20bit adat had some drawbacks , now it doesn't
have ?
Can you please explain how Paris adat now sounds ok with no hearable degradation
?
Regards,
Dimitrios
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>What I was doing…in theory.
>Short version.
>Compose in DP or Logic because of MIDI strengths, ADC and moving fader automation.
>Use good outboard to get the sound before entering the DAW.
>Keep A/D and D/A conversions to a minimum – try to stay digital once converted.
>Use Paris for mix bus and PC/Paris effects hosting.
>Use ADAT optical between DAWs.
>
>This has worked fine but left me looking for a way to integrate 96K audio,
>which I like primarily for the improvement in plugin sound and the dramatic
>improvement in some soft synths. (I also like the improvement in acoustical
>recordings such as voice, but it is much less dramatic there, particularly
>if the final results are 44.1.)
>
>When I looked at the way I actually worked, it turned out that I was going
>out of DP to hardware and returning to DP for most of my critical channels.
>In fact for some mixes, I was going out and back on almost every track.
Sometimes
>I froze the tracks so I could utilize my best converters, and sometimes
I
>set the loops up during mixdown. The point is I was making an additional
>A/D, D/A pass on almost every track.
>
>New Method.
>With the realization that I was making the extra conversions anyway I switched
>to:
>Analog out of DP.
>Hardware EQs and effects after the DP outputs when needed, then analog back
>into Paris.
>This turns out to be the same amount of conversions but allows me to work
>in DP at 96K.
>I uses a combination of my Mytek 8X96 8 channel D/A plus my 2408MKIIIs for
>D/A, and my Mytek 8X96 8 channel A/D plus my Paris 24bit cards back in.
>I usually pick the most critical channels for the Myteks but I sometimes
>prefer the warmth and softening of the Paris converters.
>
>So now I have the 96K sound that I like along with the Paris Mix engine
at
>44.1.
>The small quality reduction I occasionally thought I heard using 20bit optical
>is gone.
>The extra conversion is not extra after all.
>
>You may know that some mastering engineers use this method to convert to
>44.1 rather then use software samplerate conversion. No Dither.
>
>I may try to hybridize this to allow some channels to remain digital. That
>is the next step.
>Geneif he does it anything like here then the stems are passed through
paris after going through any outboard gear on the way to the 2 track
mix.
On 23 Nov 2005 19:34:07 +1000, "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear Gene,
>After a quick read I ahve some questions if you don't mind.
>You record in DP using your Myteks at 96khz, right ?
>Then you say you are submixing inside Paris... how do you do it when DP works
>at 96 and Paris at 44.1 ?
>I missed something here...
>Next you are saying you though 20bit adat had some drawbacks , now it doesn't
>have ?
>Can you please explain how Paris adat now sounds ok with no hearable degradation
>?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>What I was doing…in theory.
>>Short version.
>>Compose in DP or Logic because of MIDI strengths, ADC and moving fader automation.
>>Use good outboard to get the sound before entering the DAW.
>>Keep A/D and D/A conversions to a minimum – try to stay digital once converted.
>>Use Paris for mix bus and PC/Paris effects hosting.
>>Use ADAT optical between DAWs.
>>
>>This has worked fine but left me looking for a way to integrate 96K audio,
>>which I like primarily for the improvement in plugin sound and the dramatic
>>improvement in some soft synths. (I also like the improvement in acoustical
>>recordings such as voice, but it is much less dramatic there, particularly
>>if the final results are 44.1.)
>>
>>When I looked at the way I actually worked, it turned out that I was going
>>out of DP to hardware and returning to DP for most of my critical channels.
>>In fact for some mixes, I was going out and back on almost every track.
>Sometimes
>>I froze the tracks so I could utilize my best converters, and sometimes
>I
>>set the loops up during mixdown. The point is I was making an additional
>>A/D, D/A pass on almost every track.
>>
>>New Method.
>>With the realization that I was making the extra conversions anyway I switched
>>to:
>>Analog out of DP.
>>Hardware EQs and effects after the DP outputs when needed, then analog back
>>into Paris.
>>This turns out to be the same amount of conversions but allows me to work
>>in DP at 96K.
>>I uses a combination of my Mytek 8X96 8 channel D/A plus my 2408MKIIIs for
>>D/A, and my Mytek 8X96 8 channel A/D plus my Paris 24bit cards back in.
>
>>I usually pick the most critical channels for the Myteks but I sometimes
>>prefer the warmth and softening of the Paris converters.
>>
>>So now I have the 96K sound that I like along with the Paris Mix engine
>at
>>44.1.
>>The small quality reduction I occasionally thought I heard using 20bit optical
>>is gone.
>>The extra conversion is not extra after all.
>>
>>You may know that some mastering engineers use this method to convert to
>>44.1 rather then use software samplerate conversion. No Dither.
>>
>>I may try to hybridize this to allow
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Tue, 18 October 2005 06:20 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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some channels to remain digital. That
>>is the next step.
>>Genemine did that then finally died.
On 22 Nov 2005 21:10:48 +1000, "Dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>...It's two years old, a month ago it started: approx. once or
>twice a day it will make a chirping sound (but not as loud as it
> does when the power goes out completely). It lasts for 5-10
>minutes and then quits. A bummer when I'm trying to record, fer sure.
>
>Could this be the battery starting to go bad, or something else?
>
>Dale
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Neil" <IOUOI@IOU.com> wrote:
>>> Or if you've
>>>got a voltmeter, you could just do it yourself.
>>
>>Yeh I have a Fluke meter in the car. Next time it's doing it a lot I'll
>check
>>it out.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.recently I was given a keyboard Ensoniq EPS16+
when powering up it asks to insert the disk.. I do not
have the os or any disk.. how can I make it work?? is the
software available on the net ??? thanksHe's using the Paris analog ins.
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Dear Gene,
>After a quick read I ahve some questions if you don't mind.
>You record in DP using your Myteks at 96khz, right ?
>Then you say you are submixing inside Paris... how do you do it when DP
works
>at 96 and Paris at 44.1 ?
>I missed something here...
>Next you are saying you though 20bit adat had some drawbacks , now it doesn't
>have ?
>Can you please explain how Paris adat now sounds ok with no hearable degradation
>?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>What I was doing…in theory.
>>Short version.
>>Compose in DP or Logic because of MIDI strengths, ADC and moving fader
automation.
>>Use good outboard to get the sound before entering the DAW.
>>Keep A/D and D/A conversions to a minimum – try to stay digital once converted.
>>Use Paris for mix bus and PC/Paris effects hosting.
>>Use ADAT optical between DAWs.
>>
>>This has worked fine but left me looking for a way to integrate 96K audio,
>>which I like primarily for the improvement in plugin sound and the dramatic
>>improvement in some soft synths. (I also like the improvement in acoustical
>>recordings such as voice, but it is much less dramatic there, particularly
>>if the final results are 44.1.)
>>
>>When I looked at the way I actually worked, it turned out that I was going
>>out of DP to hardware and returning to DP for most of my critical channels.
>>In fact for some mixes, I was going out and back on almost every track.
>Sometimes
>>I froze the tracks so I could utilize my best converters, and sometimes
>I
>>set the loops up during mixdown. The point is I was making an additional
>>A/D, D/A pass on almost every track.
>>
>>New Method.
>>With the realization that I was making the extra conversions anyway I switched
>>to:
>>Analog out of DP.
>>Hardware
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| Re: How many RME HDSP/PCI cards are possible? [message #59272 is a reply to message #59245] |
Tue, 18 October 2005 13:07 |
gene lennon
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