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Deej [4]
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It's nice being able to integrate everything on one machine for mixing.
> There *is* a learning curve, but it's a fun one (for me). I still use the
> Neve 5042. I think I would not like the sound of Cubase 4 *for my
purposes*,
> without it.
>
> I think Paris sounds better right out of the box. Without a monster
computer
> and a tape emulator, native doesn't = Paris, IMO. With these items, it
can,
> and does. Cost wise, the more I/O, the greater the cost differential
between
> the two systems. To recreate my native system with as many I/O as my Paris
> system had (as it will be in about 2 weeks), plus the ability to operate
at
> the same low latencies as Paris you would need:
>
> 3 x RME HDSP 9652's and 1 RME Multiface (2 of the HDSP's in the master
> computer, the other in a slave box for streaming VSTi's to the master
> box)-Appx $1800.00 street
> 1 x 13 slot Magma for the HDSP's in the Master box-appx $500.00 street
> 1 computer running an Opteron 185 CPU-could be built for around $1200.00
> from scratch
> 1 computer running 2 x Opteron 2218 CPU's on a server system-could be
built
> for around $2500.00 from scratch
> 2 x RME ADI8-DS's-Street on two of these these is around $2400.00 ($1.2k a
> piece average)
> 1 RME ADI4-DD-street is around $600.00
> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 A/D-Street at $800.00
> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 D/A-Street at $800.00
> Lucid GenX6-Street at appx $400.00-to distribute WC from Mytek AD which is
> used as a master cl
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83655 is a reply to message #83650] |
Tue, 24 April 2007 13:10 |
Deej [4]
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>> Native has higher sample rates available - Paris does not
>> Native does not have submix issues if you use the proper hardware-if you
>> don't, it definitely will when tracking (see references to Furman cue
>> system)
>> Native integrates VSTi's , but will require a separate computer right now
> to
>> run heavy VSTi track counts because of Windows memory limitations so
> that's
>> not much different than Paris. The cure for this would be either to use a
>> monster Mac or wait for the Vista suckage to be resolved...if ever.
>> Native has control surfaces available with automated faders and cool
> goodies
>> like that.
>> Native has great midi and some incredible flexiility as far as editing
>> and
>> manipulating of audio tempo, etc.
>> It's nice being able to integrate everything on one machine for mixing.
>> There *is* a learning curve, but it's a fun one (for me). I still use the
>> Neve 5042. I think I would not like the sound of Cubase 4 *for my
> purposes*,
>> without it.
>>
>> I think Paris sounds better right out of the box. Without a monster
> computer
>> and a tape emulator, native doesn't = Paris, IMO. With these items, it
> can,
>> and does. Cost wise, the more I/O, the greater the cost differential
> between
>> the two systems. To recreate my native system with as many I/O as my
>> Paris
>> system had (as it will be in about 2 weeks), plus the ability to operate
> at
>> the same low latencies as Paris you would need:
>>
>> 3 x RME HDSP 9652's and 1 RME Multiface (2 of the HDSP's in the master
>> computer, the other in a slave box for streaming VSTi's to the master
>> box)-Appx $1800.00 street
>> 1 x 13 slot Magma for the HDSP's in the Master box-appx $500.00 street
>> 1 computer running an Opteron 185 CPU-could be built for around $1200.00
>> from scratch
>> 1 computer running 2 x Opteron 2218 CPU's on a server system-could be
> built
>> for around $2500.00 from scratch
>> 2 x RME ADI8-DS's-Street on two of these these is around $2400.00 ($1.2k
>> a
>> piece average)
>> 1 RME ADI4-DD-street is around $600.00
>> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 A/D-Street at $800.00
>> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 D/A-Street at $800.00
>> Lucid GenX6-Street at appx $400.00-to distribute WC from Mytek AD which
>> is
>> used as a master clock
>> Neve 5042-$1650.00 (to get Parislike sound)
>> Furman HDS-16 cue system to cross RME HDSP submixes when tracking -
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83669 is a reply to message #83665] |
Tue, 24 April 2007 16:31 |
Deej [4]
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>not much different than Paris. The cure for this would be either to use
a
>monster Mac or wait for the Vista suckage to be resolved...if ever.
>Native has control surfaces available with automated faders and cool goodies
>like that.
>Native has great midi and some incredible flexiility as far as editing and
>manipulating of audio tempo, etc.
>It's nice being able to integrate everything on one machine for mixing.
>There *is* a learning curve, but it's a fun one (for me). I still use the
>Neve 5042. I think I would not like the sound of Cubase 4 *for my purposes*,
>without it.
>
>I think Paris sounds better right out of the box. Without a monster computer
>and a tape emulator, native doesn't = Paris, IMO. With these items, it can,
>and does. Cost wise, the more I/O, the greater the cost differential between
>the two systems. To recreate my native system with as many I/O as my Paris
>system had (as it will be in about 2 weeks), plus the ability to operate
at
>the same low latencies as Paris you would need:
>
>3 x RME HDSP 9652's and 1 RME Multiface (2 of the HDSP's in the master
>computer, the other in a slave box for streaming VSTi's to the master
>box)-Appx $1800.00 street
>1 x 13 slot Magma for the HDSP's in the Master box-appx $500.00 street
>1 computer running an Opteron 185 CPU-could be built for around $1200.00
>from scratch
>1 computer running 2 x Opteron 2218 CPU's on a server system-could be built
>for around $2500.00 from scratch
>2 x RME ADI8-DS's-Street on two of these these is around $2400.00 ($1.2k
a
>piece average)
>1 RME ADI4-DD-street is around $600.00
>1 x Mytek Stereo 96 A/D-Street at $800.00
>1 x Mytek Stereo 96 D/A-Street at $800.00
>Lucid GenX6-Street at appx $400.00-to distribute WC from Mytek AD which
is
>used as a master clock
>Neve 5042-$1650.00 (to get Parislike sound)
>Furman HDS-16 cue system to cross RME HDSP submixes when tracking - $1500.00
>(or an HDSP MADI system plus an HDSP AES 16 plus BOB-instead of using the
>Multiface and 2 x HDSP 95652's-add another $2400.00 for this - there is
also
>a Friend-chip audio digitap patchbay that will accommodate some of this
>crosscard routing for around $2k as another option. None of these options
>are cheap.
>Now add another Magma and 4 x UAD-1 cards-$2000.00
>
>That's roughly $15 ,000.00 to around $18,000.00 + depending on how you go.
>
>At this point, Pro Tools HD starts looking sorta viable if you need a big
>system.
>
>Compare the price of this to a 4 x EDS card/4 x MEC system with 4 x ADAT
>cards per MEC and an A8it and A8ot and an IF2 in 3 of the 4 x MECs.
>
>Appx prices last I looked-
>4 x MEC @ $100.00- $400.00
>3 A8iT @ $275.00 - $1650.00
>3 x A8oT @ 275.00 -$1650.00
>4 EDS @ $250.00= $1000.00
>8 x ADAT cards @ 250.00= $2000.00 (not really necessary unless you want
to
>fully interface with another DAW like I was doing)-$2000.00
>GenX6-$400.00
>Nice D/A converter for monitoring -$800.00
>computer to run Paris: Appx $1,000.00
>computer to run VSTi's-Appx $1500.00
>RME HDSP 9652 for VSTi box-$450.00
>
>That's around $10,500-------or around $9000.00 with just a couple of ADAT
>modules instead of eight of them.
>
>First you should ask............do I need all of this I/O???, because if
you
>don't, your costs will go wayyyyy down with either system.
>
>Is the difference in capabilities between the two systems worth the extra
>money to you?. If you are happy with lots of workarounds to integrate
>hardware and software with Paris, 44.1/48k sample rates and great sound
once
>you get it set up, I'd stay with Paris. You could buy a lot of nice hardware
>processors to integrate with Paris with the extra money you would save by
>staying away from
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83670 is a reply to message #83655] |
Tue, 24 April 2007 16:40 |
Aaron Allen
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native.
>
>To go native, you're going to spend a lot more, especially when it comes
to
>a computer to run the system, but from an integration/workflow standpoint,
>you're going to have fewer workarounds, but not eliminate them completely
>unless you go with the horsepower that is available to a dual quad Mac
>running Logic or Digital Performer. If you go with a Mac and the hardware
I
>have described, then add another 3500.00 - 4 K to the price of the native
>system.
>
>Things are getting ready to change pretty drastically in the near future
>too, but for now, this is what you've got to work with if you want a 24
>analog I/O with an additional 20 digital I/O native system that will achieve
>the same performance level as Paris.
>
>Deej
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>Deej.
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>Now for the native system, add 4 x UAD-1's and another 13 slot Magma to
hold
>them and for the Paris system, whatever hardware and software you think
>would give you the same mojo. With Paris, you would have to alocate your
>hardware, *per submix*, with native, you would have it avaliable for the
>whole system.
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>Much less to deal with by way of workarounds with Native. Much more
>expensive to get the same kind of sound.
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> I'm finding that without the benefit of a monster computer, I see no point
>in going native
>"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:464b480a$1@linux...
>>
>> I saw you had a few issues (Hard drive Raid issues etc...) awhile back,
>> but
>> are you happy with the new system. Are you glad you moved? How bad
was
>> the learning curve - any good books / DVD's etc. that helped?
>>
>> What is the setup that you settled on and are you still using the portico
>> across the mains ...
>>
>> I have Cubase SX 3 (Don N. helped me connetct it with Paris at one point)
>> - but I still always find myself back with Paris as it's so easy to
>> track
>> in and mix in. Lack of time due to family and day job add to that!
>>
>> And thanks for all the info your always providing....
>
>Yes Rich,
I like the converters very much, it is rock solid stable if the hardware is
configured properly (no IRQ sharing with other audio/DSP devices) and the
Neve 5042 adds that same *secret sauce* as the Paris mix bus, if the rest of
Cubase is properly gainstaged.
Deej
"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:464b7142$1@linux...
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> But you like the RME stuff and find it stable (RME HDSP 9652's and RME
> Multiface)?
> The Neve 5042 is that good that it's worth the cost?
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Not nec
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83671 is a reply to message #83669] |
Tue, 24 April 2007 17:13 |
John Macy
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essarily. Once I get everything on one machine (which was the whole
>
>>point of going native), then everything will be OK. I'm really not sure
>
>>that's going to be a practical option, even with a more powerful machine
>
>>though. However, are simpler and easier now than they were.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:464b6a82@linux...
>>>I *think* all of this means that it's going ok..... :)
>>>
>>> -Carl
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464b614f@linux...
>>>> From my own personal standpoint, it's hard to compare apples to apples
>
>>>> but
>>>> these are the tradeoffs as I see them:
>>>>
>>>> Paris had the advantage when tracking due to zero latency
>>>> Native can do this in another way with ASIO direct monitoring but you
>
>>>> will
>>>> needa MADI rig or Furman HDS-16 for large sessions
>>>> Native is much better when it comes to integrating plugins like UAD-1
>>>> Native requires much more horsepower if you want to run it in low
>>>> latency
>>>> mode like Paris-think dual socket mobo/dual core CPU
>>>> Native has higher sample rates available - Paris does not
>>>> Native does not have submix issues if you use the proper hardware-if
> you
>>>> don't, it definitely will when tracking (see references to Furman cue
>>>> system)
>>>> Native integrates VSTi's , but will require a separate computer right
> now
>>> to
>>>> run heavy VSTi track counts because of Windows memory limitations so
>>> that's
>>>> not much different than Paris. The cure for this would be either to use
> a
>>>> monster Mac or wait for the Vista suckage to be resolved...if ever.
>>>> Native has control surfaces available with automated faders and cool
>>> goodies
>>>> like that.
>>>> Native has great midi and some incredible flexiility as far as editing
>
>>>> and
>>>> manipulating of audio tempo, etc.
>>>> It's nice being able to integrate everything on one machine for mixing.
>>>> There *is* a learning curve, but it's a fun one (for me). I still use
> the
>>>> Neve 5042. I think I would not like the sound of Cubase 4 *for my
>>> purposes*,
>>>> without it.
>>>>
>>>> I think Paris sounds better right out of the box. Without a monster
>>> computer
>>>> and a tape emulator, native doesn't = Paris, IMO. With these items, it
>>> can,
>>>> and does. Cost wise, the more I/O, the greater the cost differential
>>> between
>>>> the two systems. To recreate my native system with as many I/O as my
>
>>>> Paris
>>>> system had (as it will be in about 2 weeks), plus the ability to
>>>> operate
>>> at
>>>> the same low latencies as Paris you would need:
>>>>
>>>> 3 x RME HDSP 9652's and 1 RME Multiface (2 of the HDSP's in the master
>>>> computer, the other in a slave box for streaming VSTi's to the master
>>>> box)-Appx $1800.00 street
>>>> 1 x 13 slot Magma for the HDSP's in the Master box-appx $500.00 street
>>>> 1 computer running an Opteron 185 CPU-could be built for around
>>>> $1200.00
>>>> from scratch
>>>> 1 computer running 2 x Opteron 2218 CPU's on a server system-could be
>>> built
>>>> for around $2500.00 from scratch
>>>> 2 x RME ADI8-DS's-Street on two of these these is around $2400.00
>>>> ($1.2k
>
>>>> a
>>>> piece average)
>>>> 1 RME ADI4-DD-street is around $600.00
>>>> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 A/D-Street at $800.00
>>>> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 D/A-Street at $800.00
>>>> Lucid GenX6-Street at appx $400.00-to distribute WC from Mytek AD which
>
>>>> is
>>>> used as a master clock
>>>> Neve 5042-$1650.00 (to get
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83675 is a reply to message #83671] |
Tue, 24 April 2007 20:03 |
Deej [4]
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James,
If they base it on the touch screen they "invented" for the I-Phone
then it would very cool.
Chris
James McCloskey wrote:
> It's been rumored for a while. A third party has come out with an expensive
> conversion. Apple tries to not step on their third party venders. It will
> depend on how far along they are in development of their tablet.
>
> One thing is for sure, if Apple releases a tablet, they will act like it's
> something brand new as if they invented, and tell you it's the coolest thing
> since sliced bread; )
>
> Articles with illustration for Apples patten for a tablet from 2004-2005
>
> http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/05/10.18.shtml
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/10/apples-patented-the-table t-mac/
>
> OWC's ModBook
>
> http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ModBook
>
> http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/04/owc/index.php
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>> When they gonna make a tablet?
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4649e911$1@linux...
>>
>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=18032&am p;pagtype=allchandate
>>>
>
>
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Deej,
DOes the Genx6 limit you to 48K or can it distribute higher sample rates?
JH
> From my own personal standpoint, it's hard to compare apples to apples but
> these are the tradeoffs as I see them:
>
> Paris had the advantage when tracking due to zero latency
> Native can do this in another way with ASIO direct monitoring but you will
> needa MADI rig or Furman HDS-16 for large sessions
> Native is much better when it comes to integrating plugins like UAD-1
> Native requires much more horsepower if you want to run it in low latency
> mode like Paris-think dual socket mobo/dual core CPU
> Native has higher sample rates available - Paris does not
> Native does not have submix issues if you use the proper hardware-if you
> don't, it definitely will when tracking (see references to Furman cue
> system)
> Native integrates VSTi's , but will require a separate computer right now to
> run heavy VSTi track counts because of Windows memory limitations so that's
> not much different than Paris. The cure for this would be either to use a
> monster Mac or wait for the Vista suckage to be resolved...if ever.
> Native has control surfaces available with automated faders and cool goodies
> like that.
> Native has great midi and some incredible flexiility as far as editing and
> manipulating of audio tempo, etc.
> It's nice being able to integrate everything on one machine for mixing.
> There *is* a learning curve, but it's a fun one (for me). I still use the
> Neve 5042. I think I would not like the sound of Cubase 4 *for my purposes*,
> without it.
>
> I think Paris sounds better right out of the box. Without a monster computer
> and a tape emulator, native doesn't = Paris, IMO. With these items, it can,
> and does. Cost wise, the more I/O, the greater the cost differential between
> the two systems. To recreate my native system with as many I/O as my Paris
> system had (as it will be in about 2 weeks), plus the ability to operate at
> the same low latencies as Paris you would need:
>
> 3 x RME HDSP 9652's and 1 RME Multiface (2 of the HDSP's in the master
> computer, the other in a slave box for streaming VSTi's to the master
> box)-Appx $1800.00 street
> 1 x 13 slot Magma for the HDSP's in the Master box-appx $500.00 street
> 1 computer running an Opteron 185 CPU-could be built for around $1200.00
> from scratch
> 1 computer running 2 x Opteron 2218 CPU's on a server system-could be built
> for around $2500.00 from scratch
> 2 x RME ADI8-DS's-Street on two of these these is around $2400.00 ($1.2k a
> piece average)
> 1 RME ADI4-DD-street is around $600.00
> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 A/D-Street at $800.00
> 1 x Mytek Stereo 96 D/A-Street at $800.00
> Lucid GenX6-Street at appx $400.00-to distribute WC from Mytek AD which is
> used as a master clock
> Neve 5042-$1650.00 (to get Parislike sound)
> Furman HDS-16 cue system to cross RME HDSP submixes when tracking - $1500.00
> (or an HDSP MADI system plus an HDSP AES 16 plus BOB-instead of using the
> Multiface and 2 x HDSP 95652's-add another $2400.00 for this - there is also
> a Friend-chip audio digitap patchbay that will accommodate some of this
> crosscard routing for around $2k as another option. None of these options
> are cheap.
> Now add another Magm
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83708 is a reply to message #83704] |
Wed, 25 April 2007 20:49 |
Rod Lincoln
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oaudio.com" target="_blank">chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Local, eh . . . I had no idea. :) Well, we're gonna need a bassist,
violinist, and keyboardist. Maybe a saxist, as well. Some of these could
be combined, e.g., violinist or sax person who also plays keyboards. Vocal
ability a plus. Reading handy, too.
Thanks,
Sarah
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message news:464bae44@linux...
> Sarah
>
> Let us know where the gigs are... There are a few of us local.
>
>
> JH
>
> wrote:
>> Well, thank you Gantt. We did, of course, expect you to love it, since
>> we do. We expect everyone to love it. :)
>>
>> How long? Well, it actually represents a few years of "spare time"
>> interrupted by floods, remodellings, and deaths in families, including
>> the very unfortunate and far too young death of our violinist. When we
>> finished the CD, however, I took the session logs and figured out how
>> much time we actually spent in the studio. I calculated that it was
>> about 7 months worth of work spread out over about 5 years. We were busy
>> . . . I was in nursing school, the
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83722 is a reply to message #83712] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 07:23 |
John Macy
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>completely split up ala Ma Bell. If Gates ever partnered with Jobs I
>think the Poles might reverse.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> HI James,
>>> If they base it on the touch screen they "invented" for the I-Phone
>>> then it would very cool.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There working on something. They have a lot of recent patents filed.
One
>> has to do with graphics and window resizing. Time will tell!
>>
>> For Apple it's back to school season. That means new lap tops soon and
new
>> iPods in the fall. They are talking flash drives, 811n wireless and built
>> in G3 (cell phone) in their lap tops for wireless internet connectivity.
>>
>> I'd love to see an affordable tower that's upgradeable.
>>
>> I can't wait to see Leopard Mac OSX 10.5! We should know something in
June
>> when WWDC happens.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's been rumored for a while. A third party has come out with an expensive
>>>> conversion. Apple tries to not step on their third party venders.
It
>>>>
>> will
>>
>>>> depend on how far along they are in development of their tablet.
>>>>
>>>> One thing is for sure, if Apple releases a tablet, they will act like
>>>>
>> it's
>>
>>>> something brand new as if they invented, and tell you it's the coolest
>>>>
>> thing
>>
>>>> since sliced bread; )
>>>>
>>>> Articles with illustration for Apples patten for a tablet from 2004-2005
>>>>
>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/05/10.18.shtml
>>>>
>>>> Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83733 is a reply to message #83723] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 14:47 |
Rod Lincoln
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art rehearsals for some live gigs. I don't know about<BR>"the=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C7986E.9A40A1E0--Hopefully Michael Dell can get them straitened out again.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070517/D8P646980.htmlHi Paul,
I tried emailing a pic to you (minus the "_nospam" of course) but it wouldn't
go thru. Is there another place to send it?
Gantt
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>I posted what I've gotten so far... I'll be out of town most of the
>weekend, so I'll put some more up Sunday night.
>
>There are a couple of shots from the AES dinner with dudes we don't
>know. If you do, please fill in the blanks and I'll update later.
>
>http://www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>
>pabHey Sarah & Jeff,
Too bad Sarah missed our first (and only) Portland PARIS User Group meeting.
I definitely want to come out to see you Sarah. Haven't heard the CD but
from everyone's comments it sounds like I'll love it.
Jeff, I'm playing with Probable Cause this Friday night at Pyzano's in Aloha.
I know you're an east-side guy so it's probably too far to go, but they love
the band there.
Sarah, please let us know where you'll be and I'll arrange to be there.
Have a great day all!
Mark
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Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Sarah
>
>Let us know where the gigs are... There are a few of us local.
>
>
>JH
>
>wrote:
>> Well, thank you Gantt. We did, of course, expect you to love it, since
we
>> do. We expect everyone to love it. :)
>>
>> How long? Well, it actually represents a few years of "spare time"
>> interrupted by floods, remodellings, and deaths in families, including
the
>> very unfortunate and far too young death of our violinist. When we finished
>> the CD, however, I took the session logs and figured out how much time
we
>> actually spent in the studio. I calculated that it was about 7 months
worth
>> of work spread out over about 5 years. We were busy . . . I was in nursing
>> school, the other Sarah was touring the world playing flute, and Rich
and
>> Ryan were in other bands and teaching.
>>
>> We're cruising on #2, though. Already have about half the demos done.
I
>> expect the new CD out this fall, tentatively titled "Angel Food."
>>
>> We're in Portland OR. And . . . at the urging of my fellow bandmates,
I
>> have agreed to start rehearsals for some live gigs. I don't know about
"the
>> road," but we'll definitely do some "shows" here.
>>
>> Yes, "Chopsticks For Enya." I think Enya should hear that. She might
like
>> it. It's a loving parody. :)
>>
>> Thank you again, Gantt
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:464b7786$1@linux...
>>
>>>Hey Sarah! I just bought your CD to be nice, OK?
>>>
>>>I didn't expect to love it.
>>>
>>>But that's some seriously great stuff! Great tunes, great sounds, great
>>>performances... How long did it take to finish? Where are you located?
>>>Do ever take this show on the road?
>>>
>>>Chopsticks For Enya?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>
>>
>>FWIW, the problems I've seen are that the financial services are heartless
and uncaring, and they have pulled this kind of nonsense before. I have a
client that will 'never' do Dell ag
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Thu, 26 April 2007 18:44 |
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ain, even if it costs more to go
elsewhere because of the treatment she recieved on a server purchase for her
small business. The machines are fine, the support, depending on what level
you bought can range from "what did you just say, sorry I can't understand
Hindu" to "absolutely beautiful". Bottom line is if you buy the cheap
support, you get India. This model has options, so it's really incumbent
upon the purchaser if they don't want India to buy a better plan. The
repair varies greatly because they contract to local businesses - which I
think is a great model because it speeds things up, they have criteria that
the local shops must meet, and that employs local workers in each city, town
and state.
AA
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464c6b8a$1@linux...
>
> Hopefully Michael Dell can get them straitened out again.
>
> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070517/D8P646980.htmlDitto.. I sent a batch of 'em and didn't hear back/didn't see 'em on the
website.. did those make it?
AA
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Hi
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83736 is a reply to message #83735] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 19:10 |
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Paul,
>
> I tried emailing a pic to you (minus the "_nospam" of course) but it
> wouldn't
> go thru. Is there another place to send it?
>
> Gantt
>
> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>I posted what I've gotten so far... I'll be out of town most of the
>>weekend, so I'll put some more up Sunday night.
>>
>>There are a couple of shots from the AES dinner with dudes we don't
>>know. If you do, please fill in the blanks and I'll update later.
>>
>>http://www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>>
>>pab
>On 17 May 2007 16:32:44 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>And then there's Neil, who I'm convinced is actually a woman
>>until he sends me a photo.
>
>You just go on believing that, pally.
>
>But seriously, Hey, dammit, I've been BUSY!!! In any event, one
>of the guys in this band I'm tracking brought his digital
>camera yesterday & took a few snaps... now I just need to get
>him to e-mail them to me & I WILL SEND YOU ONE!
>
>Tomorrow, though, I should have some mp3 files to post...
>getting some really nice sounds with these guys & the drum kit
>is coming out fan-freakin-tastic. Tomorrow we're off from
>recording & resume Friday, so I think I'll have time to post an
>mp3 or two of the basic tracks with signal chain info for those
>who might be interested.
>
>Six tracks of rhythm guitars using three amps, bass is nice &
>thick, and attackey & gooey at the same time, drums are
>slammin'. Sounds like a
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83739 is a reply to message #83735] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 20:03 |
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didn't make it. Try the pbraun at ctgonline dot org thing
and if I don't see anything in the next day or so, I'll send you my
work address.
pab"Wireline" <wirelinestudio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:46490bf9$1@linux...
> scooterfucked?
>
> Seems it really doesn't matter who invented that, its who hold the
> patents...
>
WOW,
You can get a patent on almost anything these days.
Kool.
db~Id like to see that sometime.If you get the super high end server support, it's spectacular. I once had
a drive fail in a RAID 5 array on a dataserver about 3.15 on a Friday afternoon.
I had a replacement drive (that the guy offered to install for me) within
an hour and the support tech gave me his CELL PHONE NUMBER in addition to
his department, direct line, and supervisor. I was done in time to make happy
hour.
Of course we pay many thousands of dollars for a few incidents per year like
this, but our goal is to be a 'five nines' shop and that doesn't come cheap.
TCB
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>FWIW, the problems I've seen are that the financial services are heartless
>and uncaring, and they have pulled this kind of nonsense before. I have
a
>client that will 'never' do Dell again, even if it costs more to go
>elsewhere because of the treatment she recieved on a server purchase for
her
>small business. The machines are fine, the support, depending on what level
>you bought can range from "what did you just say, sorry I can't understand
>Hindu" to "absolutely beautiful". Bottom line is if you bu
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83740 is a reply to message #83733] |
Thu, 26 April 2007 20:05 |
John Macy
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y the cheap
>support, you get India. This model has options, so it's really incumbent
>upon the purchaser if they don't want India to buy a better plan. The
>repair varies greatly because they contract to local businesses - which
I
>think is a great model because it speeds things up, they have criteria that
>the local shops must meet, and that employs local workers in each city,
town
>and state.
>
>AA
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:464c6b8a$1@linux...
>>
>> Hopefully Michael Dell can get them straitened out again.
>>
>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070517/D8P646980.html
>
>There are no names popping up... whoiswho?
....and whoeees the mouse guy with the red shirt??
:-) MR
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:a1in43d2k7pi00iht7k3k7fl09mu3fg88r@4ax.com...
> I posted what I've gotten so far... I'll be out of town most of the
> weekend, so I'll put some more up Sunday night.
>
> There are a couple of shots from the AES dinner with dudes we don't
> know. If you do, please fill in the blanks and I'll update later.
>
> http://www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>
> pabThe names appear on the left under the thumbnails...
David.
Mike R. wrote:
> There are no names popping up... whoiswho?
> ...and whoeees the mouse guy with the red shirt??
> :-) MR
>
> "Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
> news:a1in43d2k7pi00iht7k3k7fl09mu3fg88r@4ax.com...
>
>>I posted what I've gotten so far... I'll be out of town most of the
>>weekend, so I'll put some more up Sunday night.
>>
>>There are a couple of shots from the AES dinner with dudes we don't
>>know. If you do, please fill in the blanks and I'll update later.
>>
>>http://www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
>>
>>pab
>
>
>You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why the
heck not welcome some more illegals.
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Fri, 27 April 2007 05:51 |
Rod Lincoln
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> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the
> active,
> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>
> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>
> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
> Winston Churchill
>
> Guidance,
> Rich
>
>
>here's a nice little script that will shutdown multiple computers with one
doubleclick on PCs. I use it at the end of a day, doubleclick and everything
shuts down. I hope it helps. Just put it in a text file with .vbs extension
'=========================================================== ===============
' The following function will test if a machine is reachable via a ping
' using WMI and the Win32_PingStatus Class
'=========================================================== ===============
'Shutdown Win2003 Computer
If Reachable("win2003") Then
'WScript.Echo "Computer is Reachable!"
Set wshShell = WScript.CreateObject ("WSCript.shell")
wshshell.run "shutdown -s -m \\win2003 -f -t 01" , 6, True
set wshshell = nothing
Else
'WScript.Echo "Computer is Unreachable!"
End If
'Shutdown Studio Computer
If Reachable("studio") Then
'WScript.Echo "Computer is Reachable!"
Set wshShell = WScript.CreateObject ("WSCript.shell")
wshshell.run "shutdown -s -m \\studio -f -t 01" , 6, True
set wshshell = nothing
Else
'WScript.Echo "Computer is Unreachable!"
End If
'Shutdown Desktop Computer
If Reachable("desktop") Then
'WScript.Echo "Computer is Reachable!"
Set wshShell = WScript.CreateObject ("WSCript.shell")
wshshell.run "shutdown -s -m \\desktop -f -t 01" , 6, True
set wshshell = nothing
Else
'WScript.Echo "Computer is Unreachable!"
End If
'Shutdown Laptop Computer
Set wshShell = WScript.CreateObject ("WSCript.shell")
wshshell.run "shutdown -s -m \\squigy -f -t 01" , 6, True
set wshshell = nothing
Function Reachable(strComputer)
' On Error Resume Next
Dim wmiQuery, objWMIService, objPing, objStatus
wmiQuery = "Select * From Win32_PingStatus Where Address = '" & strComputer
& "'"
Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\.\root\cimv2")
Set objPing = objWMIService.ExecQuery(wmiQuery)
For Each objStatus in objPing
If IsNull(objStatus.StatusCode) Or objStatus.Statuscode<>0 Then
Reachable = False 'if computer is unreacable, return false
Else
Reachable = True 'if computer is reachable, return true
End If
Next
End FunctionSurely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been treating
terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always been
instead of as a pretense for war, flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with you, but I
hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last four years
has done anything but fan the flames.
Some alternative quotations:
"And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the war-cry, and
shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open
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>At a base price of $92k ( fully loaded $101,425), they've got a ways to go
to sell many of them, even with all the incentives. Still I like where it's
headed and that sure is a sharp looking 'geek' ride. 248 Peak HP ain't bad,
and at over 200 ft/lbs of torque flatlines from 0 to 6000+ RPM, it would
leave a few black marks on the pavement I'm thinking.
AA
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:464e6609@linux...
>I was getting all excited, but now i see that I'm naive to even hope that a
>smart scientist can dream up a way to get hydrogen out of water
>economically.
>
> Hey, did you guys see the Tesla Motors car. It's frickin' awesome:
> http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1
>
> 0-60 in 4 seconds. Instant torque. I want one.
>
>
>
> steve wrote:
>> seems to me he's just passing the electricity buck.
>>
>> The idea is to get power to your car's wheels. His plan is to use
>> aluminum/gallium
>> to split water. And how does he get the aluminum/gallium back after it's
>> used? Electricity. (I seem to remember reading that one of the biggest
>> users
>> of electricity in the country is the aluminum
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Mon, 30 April 2007 11:30 |
John Macy
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>Try Grants Pass. Much cooler people.
>
>DC
>I've seen it too on my oldest daughters TV, when trying to play a DVD burned
with pictures with no luck. But here, it helped on our heads when changing
the DVD over to one of the computers;-)
"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:464e21b5$1@linux...
>
> Computer says "head is being cleaned"
>
> I was hoping it would maybe clean out my ears and get rid of that ringing
> sound, but no luck.Bill L wrote:
> It was too early when I wrote that.
>
> Look, it's a thorny issue. The point I was trying to make is I support
> the freedom of those religions that grant others the same freedom. I
> don't support freedom of a religion that is trying to curtail freedom,
> you dig?
>
> We have to take responsibility for mis-guided people just the way one
> does for a child. With a small child, you don't get angry and punish him
> or her for making a bad choice. You exert calm, confident control and
> direct it towards the right choice.
And when they get older and still have issues, you give them
"consequence" choices like shave their head or a couple swats across the
backside (creates a level of civil rest in my house).
Small children do not wield large weapons.
JH
We have to be bigger than them, and
> not react angrily to their desperate attempts to cause an effect on us.
> Think how pathetically desperate a group must be if the only way they
> can dream up to communicate is through terrorism. That is quite
> pathetic. To react to that, to conduct a "War Against Terrorism" is
> about as desperate and pathetic IMHO.
>
> And it's so uncreative and historically repetitive as to be a big dumb
> bore. Just think how much more effective and creative it would have been
> to spend a few billion dollars to simply buy access to the terrorists
> and then put them away. Very little collateral damage. The people who
> stand up for freedom by denouncing the terrorists get rich as they
> deserve for their bravery and everybody else lives happier, free-er lives.
>
> I know some will say it would never work like that, but did anyone ever
> try?
>
> Bill
>
>
> Rich Lamanna wrote:
>
>> Bill, I have no problem with freedom, you infidel :-) I am a
>> constitutionalist and believe strongly in the 1st amendment.
>> Unfortunately
>> the radical Islamic doesn't cherish those same freedoms you and I hold
>> dearly. They are willing to die to impose their fascism and intolerant
>> theocratic rubbish upon us.
>>
>> Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
>> Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
>> search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
>> automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and
>> children.
>> But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God
>> no,
>> despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and
>> practicing
>> for violent Jihad.
>>
>> Did you read the article dude? Did you read the part about the violent
>> incidents involving Jamaat Ul Fuora in the US?
>> "By 2004 federal in
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vestigators uncovered evidence that linked both the DC
>> "sniper killer" John Allen Muhammed and "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid to the
>> group and reports surfaced that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl
>> was captured and beheaded in the process of attempting to obtain an
>> interview with Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan."
>>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/paul-williams-map-larg e.jpg
>>
>> What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.
>> Nothing compared to this group. Wake up man, this is not about freedom of
>> religion this is about a Jihad threatening our existence and the
>> choice to
>> exercise any freedoms let alone freedom of religion. We had better
>> keep an
>> eye on these guys.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> From my cold dead hands - Charlton Heston
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:464d8d4f@linux...
>>
>>> I strongly support freedom, especially freedom of religion. Part of
>>> religious freedom is the freedom of religious choice.
>>>
>>> A religion worthy of freedom would increase individual freedom.
>>>
>>> With freedom comes increased responsibility; with increased
>>> responsibility comes increased freedom. By increasing freedoms for all
>>> one's own freedoms are increased.
>>>
>>> “Constant and continual alertness is the price of freedom.
>>> Constant willingness to fight back is the price of freedom.
>>> There is no other price actually.”
>>> — L. RON HUBBARD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich Lamanna wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why
>>
>> the
>>
>>>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>>>
>>>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
>>>>
>>>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be
>>>> vigilant in
>>
>> its
>>
>>>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>>>
>>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
>>>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>>>
>>>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave,
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> hated
>>>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
>>
>> costs
>>
>>>> nothing
>>>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>>>
>>>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
>>>> timid."
>>>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>>>
>>>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the
>>
>> brave."
>>
>>>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>>>
>>>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant,
>>>> the
>>>> active,
>>>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>>>
>>>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home of
>>>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>>>
>>>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>>>> and any 40 year-old who
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>It can be removed and installed in another vehicle easily. Only one =
=3D
>install
>was a problem for the designer so far out of 10+. The computer in =
the =3D
>Ford van=3D20
>would make the fuel mixture richer to compensate for the changes the =
=3D
>hydrogen box
>created. Turned out to COST him 30% in gas mileage! The next step =
is =3D
>to
>hack the car computers to adapt for this inexpensive device. He's =
=3D
>working
>on that now.
>
>Just a consideration.
>Tom
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message =
news:464e2664$1@linux...
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Bush and his oil buddies won't like this!
> >
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18700750/
>
> Oh yeah, and that's why both Bushe brothers continually=3D20
> veto the building of new oil platforms...
>
>
> And this guy has a long way to go before his idea is credible.
> Blaming it on egos is a bad start....
> Money to finance his research would not be hard to find if it
> shows real promise.
>
> He has not spoken of how much hydrogen his device puts out,
> and remember, it is only 40% as powerful as gasoline per volume
> so your car will lose a lot of its power. Remember also, this
> weaker car now has to pull you and your family up the hill to
> Las Vegas... Can it produce enough hydrogen on demand to pull
> this off?
>
> What is the cost per mile of gallium and aluminum refills?
>
> How far does the tank take you without a refill?
>
> So far, I am not impressed.
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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Mon, 30 April 2007 17:06 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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el=3D20<BR>>mixture richer to =
compensate for the=20
changes the hydrogen=20
=3D<BR>>box</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>created. Turned out to COST =3D<BR>>him 30% =
in=3D20<BR>>gas=20
mileage! The next step is=20
to</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>hack the car computers to adapt for=20
=3D<BR>>this=3D20<BR>>inexpensive device. He's=20
working</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>on that =
now.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
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</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just a=20
consideration.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
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=3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message =
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=3D20<BR>> McCloskey" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
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t; =20
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like=3D20<BR>> =20
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this!<BR>><BR>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18700750/<=
;BR><BR>Oh=20
=3D<BR>>yeah, and=3D20<BR>> that's why both Bushe brothers =
continually=20
<BR>veto the building of =3D<BR>>new oil=3D20<BR>> =20
platforms...<BR><BR><BR&a mp;gt;And this guy has a long way =
to go=20
before his =3D<BR>>idea is=3D20<BR>> =
credible.<BR>Blaming it on=20
egos is a bad start....<BR>Money to=20
finance<BR>=3D<BR>>his=3D20<BR>> research would not be =
hard to find if=20
it<BR>shows real =3D<BR>>promise.<BR><BR>He=20
has=3D20<BR>> not spoken of how much hydrogen his device puts =
out,<BR>and remember,<BR>=3D<BR>>it is=3D20<BR>> =
only 40% as=20
powerful as gasoline per volume<BR>so your car will lose=20
a<BR>=3D<BR>>lot of=3D20<BR>> its power. Remember also,=20
this<BR>weaker car now has to =3D<BR>>pull =
you=3D20<BR>> and=20
your family up the hill to<BR>Las Vegas... Can it produce=20
=3D<BR>>enough=3D20<BR>> hydrogen on demand to =
pull<BR>this=20
off?<BR><BR>What is the cost per =3D<BR>>mile =
of=3D20<BR>> =20
gallium and aluminum refills?<BR><BR>How far does the tank =
take=20
you =3D<BR>>without a=3D20<BR>> =
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Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes. The policies of this administration? Are =
you seriously defending this administration? Help me! Yes, clearly the =
world so much a better place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer. =
Jeezus, come on!
Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any stripe, and I particularly =
despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a divine right to kill =
in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who believe =
in the same f***ing god they do! The idiots TOOK their god from the =
Christians/Jews, for God's sake. :) As far as I'm concerned these =
lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it. And that goes for =
anyone else who reasons that they should kill in the name of God, Grrrr =
.. . . where's my Winchester . . .=20
However . . . BIG however . . . this is not what we're doing in Iraq, =
it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's never been the reason =
we went there in the first place. And I can't believe anyone still =
believes the calculated bullshit that got us there.
Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most corrupt and =
destructive administration in US history, and the damage they did took =
years to recover from. (I'm optimistic)
Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Naaaa! :)
S
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464ddbf0@linux...
The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far =
left in this country slag the only administration that is willing to =
fight for their right to slag the administration. The =
leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first to =
be slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the =
policies of this administration.
go figure.
;o}
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:464dc9f4@linux...
Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It =
astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make excuses for =
Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the same time condemn =
those democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the right to =
defend themselves against such attacks.
Rich
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:464dc442@linux...
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message =
news:464da14d@linux...
> Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd been =
treating=20
> terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's always =
been=20
> instead of as a pretense for war,=20
.........now if they would just build an asprin factory there, we =
could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the people =
there are black so this would be PC.
flourishing nests of fanatical morons like=20
> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm with =
you, but I=20
> hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the last =
four years=20
> has done anything but fan the flames.
>=20
there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
> Some alternative quotations:
>=20
> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
war-cry, and=20
> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open =
his mouth;=20
> and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen =
will invent=20
> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, =
and every=20
> man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and =
will diligently=20
> study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
thus he will=20
> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank =
God for the=20
> better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
self-deception." -=20
> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can =
distort them as much as you please".
>=20
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
acquisition of=20
> unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
> military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous =
rise of=20
> misplaced power exists and will persist.
Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in =
my life, some of which actually happened"
>=20
> We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
liberties or=20
> democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only =
an alert and=20
> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the =
huge industrial=20
> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and =
goals, so=20
> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. =
Eisenhower,=20
> 1961
Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends upon =
an alert and knowldegable CIA"=20
> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
numbers of=20
> our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or =
are those=20
> illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? =
One thing is=20
> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be =
allowed if it=20
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." =
- Ronald=20
> Reagan
I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my own personal =
health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying vehicle insurance is =
such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked =
living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If =
I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.
>=20
> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a =
Frenchman; you can go=20
> to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a =
Greek, or=20
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to =
live in=20
> America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. =
Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra Show? How about the =
way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the inner cities? Ollie North =
one of your heroes?=20
>=20
> "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to =
the manger=20
> even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do =
not admit that=20
> right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
done to the=20
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do =
not admit that=20
> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a =
stronger race, a=20
> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston =
Churchill=20
> (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative =
heart/brain=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112 =
)
I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could find a =
way to challenge the title to this land, then we could pass a law that =
handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they would kick their asses out =
of there in a heartbeat and set up a casino.
=20
> "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
"I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes of =
intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30 to 8.00 to =
educate America. They couldn't educate America if they started at =
6:30".-Groucho Marx
>>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
"When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes a =
disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
>=20
> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. =
Eat=20
> them!" - Homer Simpson
>=20
> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from =
Simpsons=20
> episode
"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>=20
> Courage,
> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I =
would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a =
quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
;o)
>=20
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3 D112
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
> news:464ce932@linux...
>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the =
flames. Why=20
>> the
>> heck not welcome some more illegals.
>>
>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
>>
>> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell =
Phillips
>>
>> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be =
vigilant in=20
>> its
>> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
>>
>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement =
outside a
>> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
>>
>> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and =
brave, and
>> hated
>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for =
then it=20
>> costs
>> nothing
>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>
>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak =
or the
>> timid."
>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>
>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to =
the=20
>> brave."
>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>
>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the =
vigilant, the
>> active,
>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>
>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the =
home of
>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>
>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a =
brain." --=20
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>> Guidance,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>=20
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| Re: Sooo...May 5th..Is there a plan? [message #83900 is a reply to message #83894] |
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John Macy
Messages: 242
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ow huh?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This stuff is no secret. He has =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>more interested</FONT><FONT =
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C799FF.74553580--It's ALIVE!!!!
OK - time to start adding the second EDS card - double woohoo!
BTW, it was great to meet several of you guys, even if for the short
hour. Oh yeah, and the hot Thai was quite good and edible - still a step
below Siamese Plate's Jungle Curry in heat.
-Rohde
Rohde Wakefield wrote:
> Yeah, actually all the IRQ's look OK. Graphics card is GeForce 6600GT in
> a nForce3-based motherboard. No ATI chips in sight.
>
> I think I found the answer. I had installed the drivers for the UAD-1
> card, but I had pulled out the card prior in order to do some debugging
> and never put it back in.
>
> When I uninstalled these drivers, everything seemed a bit happier.
>
> Just discovered this a couple of minutes ago, and Paris is no longer
> sucking the CPU dry of cycles.
>
> Thanks Dimitrios and DJ.
>
> -Rohde
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Rhode,
>>
>> This sounds like an IRQ trainwreck. EDS card sharing with a graphics
>> card is bad, even if Windows says there is no problem. Windows
>> lies........XP lies especially.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "Rohde Wakefield" <rohdeww@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:464db606$1@linux...
>>> Hey all. I thought I remembered a post on this, but my searches are
>>> coming up short.
>>>
>>> Has anyone seen the situation where Paris will _always_ be using 90%+
>>> of the CPU and machine is just a dog, even when not playing?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if it was something I installed earlier this year. I
>>> haven't been able to use Paris the last couple of times I've needed
>>> it so Garage Band and Vegas had to do in the pinch.
>>>
>>> I think I may have an extra 20GB drive sitting around. I may just
>>> reinstall a new WinXP and Paris mini
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