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Aaron Allen
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>>>>>>>
>Files\EMU\Paris
>
>
>>>>>>>directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will
>>>>>>>be good
>>>>>>>to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to
>>>>>>>48kHz.
>>>>>>>Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then
>>>>>>>navigate to your
>>>>>>>other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source
>>>>>>>to 44.1,
>>>>>>>close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are
>>>>>>>now sync'ed
>>>>>>>to the HDSP (or other) clock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should
>>>>>>>still
>>>>>>>sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what
>>>>>>>clock Paris
>>>>>>>is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
>>>>>>>ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>ADAT
>
>
>>>>>>>output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and
>>>>>>>set it to
>>>>>>>sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines
>>>>>>>should lock
>>>>>>>up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"jef knight" <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:44352480@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should
>>>>>>>>I set
>>>>>>>>it to APP? Gonna try that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also
>>>>>>>>>recall
>>>>>>>>>issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>best
>
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>advice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>would be to sell the old card and get an HDSP model. These just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>work
>
>
>>>>>>>>>flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:4433eba1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Jef,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin
>>>>>>>>>>port.
>>>>>>>>>>I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to
>>>>>>>>>>switch
>>>>>>>>>>to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to
>>>>>>>>>>work here
>>>>>>>>>>with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and
>>>>>>>>>>made
>>>>>>>>>>the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo
>>>>>>>>>>9652
>>>>>>>>>>card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
>>>>>>>>>>versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it
>>>>>>>>>>was.
>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hey guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick
>>>>>>>>>>>and it
>>>>>>>>>>>wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have
>>>>>>>>>>>the one
>>>>>>>>>>>main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
>>>>>>>>>>>LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've
>>>>>>>>>>>had to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>put
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>that I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to
>>>>>>>>>>>Paris (
>>>>>>>>>>>comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>pretty sure,
>>>>>>>>>>>'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel
>>>>>>>>>>>indicates that
>>>>>>>>>>>the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it
>>>>>>>>>>>should go,
>>>>>>>>>>>having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing
>>>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>>>>>horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>not sure
>>>>>>>>>>>what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>9-pin
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>signal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Does the paris/digi setup allow me to use APP or regular adat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>sync
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical
>>>>>>>>>>>conections, yes?
>>>>>>>>>>>Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
>>>>>>>>>>>What do
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>jef
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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way ahead this time...got one from my tech this aft....cheers dudes....<br>
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DJ wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Yes, you would attach the terminator to the output of Paris. You
probably won't need it, but for a few bucks, it's cheap stability
insurance.
David.
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<pre wrap="">If I go with the hdsp as clock, then the last device will be Paris,
correct? ...which I think has only In and Out, yes? Does this still
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<pre wrap="">If the last device in the WC chain has a "loop through" jack, then
attach a BNC connector that has a 75 Ohm 1% resistor soldered across
it. Some devices have actual 75 Ohm termination switches on them.
David.
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<pre wrap=""> Jef.....answers below:
"jef knight" <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com">thestudio@allknightmusic.com</a>
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Geez, thanks so much for the indepth look under the hood Deej!
So, if I read you correctly, I can use the clock in the hdsp via
word clock right?
Yes.
So I need to hook up a work clock cable from the hdsp out
to paris in? Do I need to terminate this?
I would do it. Paris is supposed to autoterminate and the
HDSP has
a jumper, but I would still do it with 75ohm terminator caps.
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<pre wrap="">just to clarify, is this like scsi termitation when I need to
actually cap the cable (i never trusted the dip switches) ?, in this
case with a T and a terminator on the "far" and of the chain on the
last device, or would it be a not-so-bad idea to do the hdsp end also?
j
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As for the settings, I had made some goofy choices in the setup
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(rather than the asio multimedia driver) and sellected "asio
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<pre wrap=""> card" in the sync options on the transport menu and Wa-lla! she
rollin! Cool.
Cool indeed!!!!
I'm gonna now do the Paris setting. I have a guy coming by to
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<pre wrap=""> working out.
If you're not using the RME as master clock, there's no
need to
change anything in Paris.
jef
DJ wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The ADAT sync being generated by Paris is dependant on the clock
signal
being received by Paris. If you are using the Paris clock, then the
HDSP
will be syncing to the Paris clock. If you're not using an external
clock,
the RME HDSP clock is probably more accurate than the Paris clock.
If you are using more than one MEC, the best way to sync Paris to an
external clock is to distribute the RME clock with an external box
like the
Lucid CLK-6 receiving sync from the RME and then sending it to each
MEC.
If you do this, you will need to edit your Paris.cfg file wby
adding the
following line:
UsrHouseSync=1
Then you will need to go into C:\\Program Files\EMU\Paris and open
Paris
from your original Paris.exe file. When the Project opens, set the
sync
source to Word Clock and the sample rate to 48kHz and name it
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<pre wrap="">directory and once to your desktop. Then reboot Paris and you will
be good
to go with a house clock. You don't need to set the house clock to
48kHz.
Leave it at 44.1. Just open the default project.ppj, , then
navigate to your
other projects that are 44.1, open them and reset the clock source
to 44.1,
close them, reopen them and you're good. Your paris projects are
now sync'ed
to the HDSP (or other) clock.
Now whether or not you did all of the stuff above, the HDSP should
still
sync to ADAT timecode being generated by Paris, no matter what
clock Paris
is generating, sooooo.........in Nuendo, set it to sync to
ASIO Positioning Protocall, connect a serial cable from the Paris
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<pre wrap="">output to the HDSP ADAT input go into the HDSP control panel and
set it to
sync to ADAT sync hit play on the Paris C-16 and the timelines
should lock
up.
Deej
"jef knight" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thestudio@allknightmusic.com"><thestudio@allknightmusic.com></a> wrote in message
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<pre wrap="">oops, sorry guys, it IS the HDSP I have in there. Now what? Should
I set
it to APP? Gonna try that.
DJ wrote:
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<pre wrap="">SX needs to be set to sync to ASIO positioning protocall or
something
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<pre wrap="">that. I'll have to check tonight when I can get to this. I also
recall
issues with the older *digi* 96 cards not syncing to Paris. My
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<pre wrap="">flawlessly with no gnashing of garments, rending of teeth.
;o)
"EK Sound" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:askme@nospam.com"><askme@nospam.com></a> wrote in message
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:4433eba1$1@linux">news:4433eba1$1@linux</a>...
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<pre wrap="">Hi Jef,
Nice to see you back on the group, and in good health!
AFAIK, the Digi series had issues with syncing using the 9 pin
port.
I seem to recall BT having issues with these cards and had to
switch
to the HDSP version. I was not succesful at getting this to
work here
with a Nuendo 9652 card (Digi 9652 re-badged for Steinberg) and
made
the switch to the HDSP version also (anyone want a cheap Nuendo
9652
card? ;-). I think it had to do with either NU/Cubase software
versions, or operating system... can't remember exactly what it
was.
Perhaps DJ has more to add here...
Regards,
David.
jef knight wrote:
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">Hey guys,
Well, it's been two freakin' years since I started getting sick
and it
wasn't until Nov that they figured it out 'cuz I didn't have
the one
main symptom that they look for...sheesh..dr's...
LSS...I'm back to health and feelin' great....downside - I've
had to
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">put
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<pre wrap="">many things, including my music/studio endevours, on hold. Now
that I'm
back to normal I can begin again where I left off.
So where I left off was getting Nuendo (in comp 2) to slave to
Paris (
comp 1) via paris adat card and digi9652 card.
I have the settings and p-bay in Paris set correctly, I'm
pretty sure,
'cuz when I hit paris/play, the digi9652 control panel
indicates that
the sync is working and the time begins to roll in comp 2.
But Nuendo doesn't start. I've set it up the way I think it
should go,
having done syncing (LTC) in Cubase for years, but I'm doing
something
horrible wrong I suspect. Word clock is also connected. So I'm
not sure
what's happening to make Nuendo not respond to the incoming
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">I'm in the dark about and assume it uses the optical
conections, yes?
Dunno. Am I even using the correct way of going about syncing?
What do
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<pre wrap="">need/need-to-know to make these two comps dance?
I'd sure appreciate some help getting back up and running. : )
jef
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TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>It looks like they will be.
>
>http://www.mobl.com/expansion/products/index.html
>
>My MBP arrived yesterday.. it would be great to be able to run Paris on
it in the future.
>I don't see why it wouldn't be able to.
>
>Cheers,
>
>TC
>
>Hear hear now..I'm a Certified Lotus Domino Professional. Don't out IBM/Lotus..
Since I work in this field, I know for a fact that Lotus Domino is the defacto
standard groupware prodduct. With it's Websphere app. Things are looking
really good in Big Blue Land these days.. :)LaMont
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Since both M$oft and Apple are publicly traded corporations they are actually
>legally and morally responsible for doing everything not illegal/immoral
>to make money for their shareholders. That can be done by paying dividends
>(M$oft finally was guilt tripped into doing that a while back) or by increasing
>their share price. By any standards Appple has been spectacular at the latter
>lately, adding over $9 billion in market cap this week by announcing that
>people could now do what they could already do. Apple has also been a rocket
>stock over the past few years, regularly running up in price, splitting,
>and then running up again. As someone who owns a little bit of each stock
>(via index ETFs, I shy away from individual tech companies), I hope M$oft
>comes out Monday and announces, similarly, that Windows now has a Start
button
>and their stock spikes up.
>
>Are they greedy? Well, to me corporate greed is buying diamonds from central
>Africa, exploiting bubbles in futures markets to price gouge for gasoline,
>and manipulating electricity grids to steal money from state utilities.
On
>that scale Apple and M$oft are pups. On the morality front my guess is that
>Apple is involved in more shady stuff simply because they are a hardware
>manufacturer and a fair amount of labor abuse and environmental damage is
>caused when computer parts are outsourced. But that's a luck of the draw
>thing for which they can't be held too responsible.
>
>But what's keeping Apple back is not M$oft office. OpenOffice.org works
splendidly
>on Macs and is so close to MSOffice that it's staggering price advantage
>(free) would remove any advantage the MS version has. I think there are
a
>few things holding Apple back. Price is a big one. A lack of an enterprise
>class server product is another, and before I hear about X-Serves I can
buy
>WAY cheaper hardware for a server and put BSD on it if I want mach stability
>or linux if I want microkernel performance. The REAL reason, though, that
>I think Apple is never going to be much more than a niche player is . .I'm experimenting (some more) with using SX as a standalone host for UAD-1
plugins. One wall I'm hitting here that isn't problematic when hosting the
audio tracks in Cubase SX and then streaming the tracks from SXx into Paris
with the UAD-1 plugs on SX tracks is that when sending a *hot* Paris track
directly over ADAT to a channel in SX and routing it through a UAD-1 plugin
on an SX insert and returning it over ADAT to Paris is that it's clipping
the UAD-1 plugin. Lowering the fader on the SX mono input channel or
reducing the level of the audiio being sent from Paris to the SX channel
(pretty much the same thing, but somethow a bit different sounding
sonically) mitigates the clipping (this makes sense-it's clipping the UAD-1
input). Well.....this is OK, makeup gain is available at the comp or at the
Cubase output channel.
Almost too many options to deal with here.
What never ceases to amaze is how, once this Paris signal is into the SX
architecture and past the clipping stage, how much processing and makeup
gain can be applied and how well Paris handles the super hot signal being
returned to the Paris channed via the insert..
As we all know by now.....this is the secret sauce. It just doesn't make any
sense. I wonder if we've got the first and only *modelling DAW*. I recall
seeing a picture of SSC sitting in front of a heavily modified Midas console
in his personal studio.
Is this what we're hearing?
Thanks
DeejDone!Me too
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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>
> MBP is ExpressCard/34 slot - I signed up for future info at Magma.
>
>
> TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
> >It looks like they will be.
> >
> >http://www.mobl.com/expansion/products/index.html
> >
> >My MBP arrived yesterday.. it would be great to be able to run Paris on
> it in the future.
> >I don't see why it wouldn't be able to.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >TC
> >
> >
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Just to be clear, I say things at least as bad about M$oft as I do about
Apple.
>I find them wanting for specific reasons, but for the same general sins.
>They act like after I buy one of their products I have no rights. They presumptively
>treat my like a crimminal by using invasive DRM. They use file formats they
>won't disclose which makes me reliant on _them_ (in terms of survival and
>permission) for the future integrety if my data. I put up with both of them
>because I have no choice. But I'm not a Mac basher, or rather I bash other
>organizations with similar or greater ferocity.
>
>TCB
Well Apple has never treated me or any other Mac user I know like a criminal,
and I know a lot of Mac users! Apple doesn't really use DRM, that is a Microsoft
kind of scam. iTunes limits the number copies that you can create in iTunes,
but it is reasonable, I think it's 6 copies. I've been able to make many
CD copies of my music with out any problems. With Apple it's not a rental
situation, my music doesn't disappear the second I stop paying them, I own
it!
Any time any thing Apple is mentioned, you come out of the wood work to bash
Apple, I don't see you bashing Microsoft every time Microsoft is mentioned
on this NG. So I don't think its equal opportunity bashing. There quite
a few Mac users here, and there kind of passionate about there Macs; )
There is a reason why, and it's not because their stupid people that are
cowed by the evil Apple. There are many reasons we use Macs, one is we use
both and we know what works better. Another is, that it is the alternative
to the tyranny of Microsoft.
You talk about proprietary software, I love it when I go to a web site with
my PC or Mac, and the web site tells me I HAVE TO USE MICROSOFT INTERNET
EXPLORER! The worst piece of shit, out dated, unsecured browser out there.
All because my Bank or some other institution has a brain washed Microsoft
certified IT Asshole that doesn't know his butt from a Mac, or any thing
else! They insist you use MS IE, that is what I call proprietary, that's
what I call tyranny, that is what I call, unnecessarily putting me at risk
for ID theft, among many things! I use Microsoft products because, I have
to at times, because they are proprietary! That sucks!
You don't see a company like Apple trying to hijack a technology like JAVA
and turn it in to their own proprietary technology like Microsoft does.
Yet you guys Support the ultimate software Nazi, Bill (Adolf) Gates, and
you knock a pioneering company Apple and call them thief's! I don't hear
you bashing MS! what I see is, you hand your money to MS and bashing Macs
and Mac users!
You talk about free software. That's a great Idea, but nothing is free!
Not even OpenBSD is free, they need money to have their powwow. Apple is
in the business to make money. They put out a great product that cost money
to develop, and they charge a fair price. They don't charge extra for the
professional version! They add value by adding things like iLife software
and Boot Camp, with out extra charge. You pick on Apple for not supporting
the open source software, I don't see you bitching about Microsoft not supporting
open source software! Trust me when I say Microsoft has stolen more software
code then they have ever paid for! Yet nothing out of you on this! So where
are your morals on this issue?
I do think open source software initiatives should be supported. I use the
Mozilla softwares over the MS software on my PC. I think it's better. Many
people went to it because the real slobs at Microsoft left our butts hanging
in the breeze with IE, Entourage, and Outlook as far as security goes. Can
you say holes and patches??? Well their finally going to release a new version
of IE. I can't wait to see how many holes and damned bugs are in it!
ubuntu is a great idea, but it is NOT PRACTICAL! It is NOT ready for prime
time! The day I can go out and buy any audio or video card/interface, install
it and have it work, I will consider it. It does not work as good as what
I have right now. when it can do everything I need it to do, I'll use it
and support it. You, yourself Still use Windows because ubuntu can't do
it all. The other thing is, I don't need to ask or pay an IT Puke, as somebody
put it, to set up my machine. And that really is the the issue with IT
pukes, isn't it? Mac users do not need IT guys, and you know it. We can
maintain and network our machines with out you guys. Speaking of networking,
AppleTalk???, that is 1984 technology! That was developed in the infancy
of networking so anybody could network Macs quickly. Most Mac users don't
use AppleTalk anymore, and haven't for years, PLEASE!!!
The truth is, Mac users have never need IT guys, and that is the core of
Microsoft's scam. Microsoft intentionally made their software buggy and
complex, so you need an IT guy to debug and maintain your systems and networks.
That is a big part of where MS's revenue comes from, Training and certification.
This keeps you IT guys working! That is why you don't like Macs! Mac users
don't need IT guys, because Apple computers just work right out of the box.
The average Mac user can set up an office network in minutes, that actually
works. That is what Apple does, they make it easy on the end user. That
is one of the reasons why Apple computers cost more, because they have already
taken most of the work out of it, for the end user. There is no money in
that for you. I have to say with XP, PCs are getting there too, but they
are still not as easy and carefree to use as a Mac.
It is a known fact, that Microsoft for years has bribed colleges, university
and K-12 schools with free software and hardware! Dell has been doing the
same in resent years. Apple has lost a lot of education market to this unfair
business practice. A lot of the great educational software was developed
on the Mac O/S 9 and earlier Mac operating systems. That is why many teachers
don't want to let it go. It is easy for the schools to maintain those systems,
and they still work! By the way, if you work for a college, you WORK for
the academics as you put it, but I guess your so much smarter than them.
After all, what the hell would a bunch of stupid college professors know
about the tools they use to teach with, and use.
As far as Apple stock goes, a year and a half to two years ago, people here
were talking about how Motley Fools were saying Apple sucked. They were
saying, not to buy their stock, because the iPod would fizzle and Apple would
be out of business with in a year or so. I told people not to listen to
that bullshit. Just go look at what Apple stock did in the last two years!
Then tell me how Apple sucks and how Apple stock sucks! Figure out what
a 10K investment in Apple stock would have yielded, you'll want to kick yourself!
Here is a stock tip, stop listening to Motley Fools, and any other PC Zealots
about Apple computer! PC zealots that hate Apple have been trying to predict
the demise for more than fifteen years. They try to sway the market downwards
by spewing untruths and negative opinions about Apple's future and technologies,
but it never works in the end. Apple is kicking ass and taking names, and
will continue to do so because they are an innovative company, not a bunch
of thief's!
You may know how to set the network setting on a Mac, and you have written
some Cubase picture books which included Mac pictures, but I'm convinced
that you still don't know much about the current version of Mac OSX. So
I recommend, this coming July when the new Intel Mac Towers are released,
you lease one for a year, and use it everyday for a year for all your computing
needs. When you use a Mac everyday then you will be able to speak about
the Mac from the prospective of an actual Mac user. Then come back and give
us a report! With out doing this, your just a trolling Mac basher!
I jumped around a bit because I'm just catching up on the posts. I wasn't
looking for opinions, or bashing, I was just posting the info for the Mac
users and anybody else that was interested in this news. However, I thought
I would give mine, the above are my opinions!
James
>
>"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>XP is in and running great. The entire process was very fast once I had
>an
>>appropriate XP install disk. I wont get around to trying any music programs
>>under XP till later or tomorrow.
>>
>>I never understood why non-Mac people react with such vigor when attacking
>>all things Apple. But I don’t care. Just leave me alone to spend my money
>>on tools I like. This box seems like it should appeal to just about everyone.
>>Its fast, sleek and runs both systems…No wonder so many people are quick
>>to attack it. Is there cheaper stuff… sure knock yourself out.
>>I love the logic that Apple is an unscrupulous company. This always seems
>>to imply that Microsoft is somehow better, or for that matter, how about
>>all the Labels we deal with or the corruption in radio etc, etc, etc.
>>
>>For the latest on the rotten underbelly of the music industry see:
>>http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=173928
>>
>>Back to the MacBook.
>>I took this self-portrait using the built in camera in my studio last night.
>>Macs are cool.
>>
>>
>>
>Deej, does this Mobo have sound on board? Aren't there different versions of
the board, the A7V8x, A7V8X-X and A7V8X-LA. Which one do you recommend?
Thanks,
Rich
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:443465eb@linux...
> The most stable mobo I've ever seen with a G450/Paris rig is an old ASUS
> A7V8x. I've been running Paris on this with an AMD XP 2800 CPU for almost
3
> years. I'll likely never build another Paris rig. I'm running two G450's
AGP
> & PCI with no problems.
>
> Deej
>
> "Ron L" <ronl@interlinc.com> wrote in message news:44340907$1@linux...
> > Hi All
> >
> > Been working with a 3 card paris rig running on ME for years. But it
fell
> > apart last week so I'm going to make the XP move. I would really be
> > greatfull for input on stable hardware setups that some of you may be
> > running.
> >
> > The only hardware that I want to use from my old set up besides the
three
> > Paris cards is a Matrox G-450 duel head video card.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ron L
> > Studio North
> > Seattle WA
> > www.interlinc.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Just to be clear, I say things at least as bad about M$oft as I do about
Apple.
>I find them wanting for specific reasons, but for the same general sins.
>They act like after I buy one of their products I have no rights. They presumptively
>treat my like a crimminal by using invasive DRM. They use file formats they
>won't disclose which makes me reliant on _them_ (in terms of survival and
>permission) for the future integrety if my data. I put up with both of them
>because I have no choice. But I'm not a Mac basher, or rather I bash other
>organizations with similar or greater ferocity.
>
>TCB
>
That's what I get for using MS Word, here it is again.
Well Apple has never treated me or any other Mac user I know like a criminal,
and I know a lot of Mac users! Apple doesn't really use DRM, that is a Microsoft
kind of scam. iTunes limits the number copies that you can create in iTunes,
but it is reasonable, I think it's 6 copies. I've been able to make many
CD copies of my music with out any problems. With Apple it's not a rental
situation, my music doesn't disappear the second I stop paying them, I own
it!
Any time any thing Apple is mentioned, you come out of the wood work to bash
Apple, I don't see you bashing Microsoft every time Microsoft is mentioned
on this NG. So I don't think its equal opportunity bashing. There quite
a few Mac users here, and there kind of passionate about there Macs; )
There is a reason why, and it's not because their stupid people that are
cowed by the evil Apple. There are many reasons we use Macs, one is we use
both and we know what works better. Another is, that it is the alternative
to the tyranny of Microsoft.
You talk about proprietary software, I love it when I go to a web site with
my PC or Mac, and the web site tells me I HAVE TO USE MICROSOFT INTERNET
EXPLORER! The worst piece of shit, out dated, unsecured browser out there.
All because my Bank or some other institution has a brain washed Microsoft
certified IT Asshole that doesn't know his butt from a Mac, or any thing
else! They insist you use MS IE, that is what I call proprietary, that's
what I call tyranny, that is what I call, unnecessarily putting me at risk
for ID theft, among many things! I use Microsoft products because, I have
to at times, because they are proprietary! That sucks!
You don't see a company like Apple trying to hijack a technology like JAVA
and turn it in to their own proprietary technology like Microsoft does.
Yet you guys Support the ultimate software Nazi, Bill (Adolf) Gates, and
you knock a pioneering company Apple and call them thieves! I don't hear
you bashing MS! what I see is, you hand your money to MS and bashing Macs
and Mac users!
You talk about free software. That's a great Idea, but nothing is free!
Not even OpenBSD is free, they need money to have their powwow. Apple is
in the business to make money. They put out a great product that cost money
to develop, and they charge a fair price. They don't charge extra for the
professional version! They add value by adding things like iLife software
and Boot Camp, with out extra charge. You pick on Apple for not supporting
the open source software, I don't see you bitching about Microsoft not supporting
open source software! Trust me when I say Microsoft has stolen more software
code then they have ever paid for! Yet nothing out of you on this! So where
are your morals on this issue?
I do think open source software initiatives should be supported. I use the
Mozilla softwares over the MS software on my PC. I think it's better. Many
people went to it because the real slobs at Microsoft left our butts hanging
in the breeze with IE, Entourage, and Outlook as far as security goes. Can
you say holes and patches??? Well their finally going to release a new version
of IE. I can't wait to see how many holes and damned bugs are in it!
ubuntu is a great idea, but it is NOT PRACTICAL! It is NOT ready for prime
time! The day I can go out and buy any audio or video card/interface, install
it and have it work, I will consider it. It does not work as good as what
I have right now. when it can do everything I need it to do, I'll use it
and support it. You, yourself Still use Windows because ubuntu can't do
it all. The other thing is, I don't need to ask or pay an IT Puke, as somebody
put it, to set up my machine. And that really is the the issue with IT
pukes, isn't it? Mac users do not need IT guys, and you know it. We can
maintain and network our machines with out you guys. Speaking of networking,
AppleTalk???, that is 1984 technology! That was developed in the infancy
of networking so anybody could network Macs quickly. Most Mac users don't
use AppleTalk anymore, and haven't for years, PLEASE!!!
The truth is, Mac users have never need IT guys, and that is the core of
Microsoft's scam. Microsoft intentionally made their software buggy and
complex, so you need an IT guy to debug and maintain your systems and networks.
That is a big part of where MS's revenue comes from, Training and certification.
This keeps you IT guys working! That is why you don't like Macs! Mac users
don't need IT guys, because Apple computers just work right out of the box.
The average Mac user can set up an office network in minutes, that actually
works. That is what Apple does, they make it easy on the end user. That
is one of the reasons why Apple computers cost more, because they have already
taken most of the work out of it, for the end user. There is no money in
that for you. I have to say with XP, PCs are getting there too, but they
are still not as easy and carefree to use as a Mac.
It is a known fact, that Microsoft for years has bribed colleges, university
and K-12 schools with free software and hardware! Dell has been doing the
same in resent years. Apple has lost a lot of education market to this unfair
business practice. A lot of the great educational software was developed
on the Mac O/S 9 and earlier Mac operating systems. That is why many teachers
don't want to let it go. It is easy for the schools to maintain those systems,
and they still work! By the way, if you work for a college, you WORK for
the academics as you put it, but I guess your so much smarter than them.
After all, what the hell would a bunch of stupid college professors know
about the tools they use to teach with, and use.
As far as Apple stock goes, a year and a half to two years ago, people here
were talking about how Motley Fools were saying Apple sucked. They were
saying, not to buy their stock, because the iPod would fizzle and Apple would
be out of business with in a year or so. I told people not to listen to
that bullshit. Just go look at what Apple stock did in
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Tony Benson
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nd my money
>>on tools I like. This box seems like it should appeal to just about everyone.
>>Its fast, sleek and runs both systems…No wonder so many people are quick
>>to attack it. Is there cheaper stuff… sure knock yourself out.
>>I love the logic that Apple is an unscrupulous company. This always seems
>>to imply that Microsoft is somehow better, or for that matter, how about
>>all the Labels we deal with or the corruption in radio etc, etc, etc.
>>
>>For the latest on the rotten underbelly of the music industry see:
>>http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=173928
>>
>>Back to the MacBook.
>>I took this self-portrait using the built in camera in my studio last night.
>>Macs are cool.
>>
>>
>>
>I'm using the A7V8X -LAN for Paris. I also have the standard A7V8X here as
well. either one will work fine. The both have onboard AC audio, though I've
never used it.
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:443746fc@linux...
> Deej, does this Mobo have sound on board? Aren't there different versions
of
> the board, the A7V8x, A7V8X-X and A7V8X-LA. Which one do you recommend?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:443465eb@linux...
> > The most stable mobo I've ever seen with a G450/Paris rig is an old ASUS
> > A7V8x. I've been running Paris on this with an AMD XP 2800 CPU for
almost
> 3
> > years. I'll likely never build another Paris rig. I'm running two G450's
> AGP
> > & PCI
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Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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> >>Or this next one might be a good one. It's an extra $100, but I'm
guessing
> >>we'll get a couple more donations, and I'm happy to top it up. This one
> >has
> >>AVR (as recommended by DC) and provides "Up to 100 minutes backup time"
> >which,
> >>even at half that, is enough to cover 98% of outages let's face it...
> >>
> >>http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?prdid=8619
> >>
> >>All in all I'm overjoyed at the response guys. Incredible. You guys
really
> >>do love this place don't you. :o)
> >>
> >>Something like that should be enough I'd think, but really, we can spend
> >>as much as we like on a UPS. The sky's the limit:
> >>
> >>http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=24&subid=91
> >>
> >>...mind you the most expensive units there are designed of course of
multiple
> >>servers with monitors etc.
> >>
> >>Let's let it trickle along and see where we land. My guess is we'll be
> able
> >>to buy something pretty nice. Don't worry about going the second dip
just
> >>yet Mike. ;o) If we get up to the $600-$800 Australian mark, we'll get
> very
> >>nice unit.
> >>
> >>No more lonely days without a NG.
> >>
> >>There certainly is a sinking feeling when you press the button and it
doesn't
> >>respond isn't there? ;o)
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Kim.
> >
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>We want you to get one that will keep running for at least 3 days just in
>case you go pub crawling.
Hehe, which I am likely to do as you know... ;o)
Possibly one of these might be in order:
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_ sku=BR24BP
They don't last three days, but I estimate we'd get over three hours out
of the system with the backup battery attached, as opposed to probably one
hour without. Of course if I go pub crawling there's still going to be trouble.
;o)
Perhaps I should just give you my cell phone number so you can call me if
it ever goes down while I'm not watching. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.HI Rich,
DJ is right on the board advice. The board works great. If y
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Mike Claytor
Messages: 32
Registered: October 2006
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erway around.
> >>
> >> My LAN guru is not around so I can't ask him where ther might be
"issues"
> >> but I will tomorrow AM
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4439aed3$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If FX teleport is accessing the partitions using Windows Networking,
> >then
> >> > I can't see why the formats would make any difference.
> >> >
> >> > But perhaps it doesn't.
> >> >
> >> > To be honest, if I understand what it's doing properly, I can't see
> why
> >it
> >> > actually needs to access the drives at all. I would have thought FX
> >> > teleport
> >> > would simply talk directly from one machine to the other, from the
> >> > teleport
> >> > app on one machine to teleport on the other, app to app, rather than
> >> > accessing
> >> > the drive. Accessing the drive would simply slow the process down, as
> >> > drives
> >> > are slow of course. I mean why does teleport need to access the
drive?
> I
> >> > mean other than to read the plugins off the local machine, but as far
> as
> >> > transferring audio data between machines surely it doesn't have to
read
> >> > the
> >> > drive. The audio app would read the track off the drive and feed it
> to
> >> > teleport,
> >> > which would feed it down the network cable to teleport at the other
> end,
> >> > apply the effect, and send it back to teleport, which would feed it
> back
> >> > to the app. Can't see why it needs to access the drive... other
than
> >to
> >> > access your plugins, but that would be on the local machine surely?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Kim.
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >>My system drive (running Win XP) is formatted FAT 32 (I have my
reasons
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------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C65D7B.FD4DC210--Hey Steve,
Thank you. Your question was to Dave, not me or anyone else - I just
misread your intent, and I apologize for that..
Regards,
Dedric
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c006a$1@linux...
>
> Dedric,
> You are an incredible individual. I agree with everything you said. Spoken
> like a true gentlman. Especially the part about past/present users
> regardless
> of what they use now. I call them "old pro's". as Dave is. My issue wasn't
> about who should or shouldn't be on the forum, mercy no!!!!Actually I
> didn't
> have much of an issue at all till everyone but Dave responded. I just
> wanted
> to know where he was coming from in regard to posting Pro Tools being
> better
> than Paris on a Paris users group sight. He wasn't rude or nothing and I
> wasn't trying to be either. Dedric, you have a very eloquent way of
> putting
> things. I hope they consider you also an asset to the group. I don't feel
> I spoke out of line, but if I did?, sorry Dave...
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Dave - glad the new rig is working well for you. Best of luck with it!
>>
>>Steve,
>>
>>I believe most of us have been under the assumption that all past and
>>present Paris users are welcome here regardless of what we use now (or so
> I
>>hope), unless Kim says the server has decided otherwise. I'm not a
>>ProTools
>>fan, but if I were considering an HD rig, I would take the feedback of a
>>former Paris user over the Digi forum any day. For those considering
>>ProTools I would think Dave's post would likely be of interest.
>>
>>I don't participate a whole lot, but I consider this forum to be the last
>>refuge for Paris users (former and present) that found it to be more
>>professional and friendly than any other forum on the planet, and a nice
> way
>>to stay in touch with Paris users we've come to know and even meet in
>>person. I try to stay out of Paris-subject threads for sake of bandwidth
>>and keep my participation short and simple, helping if I can - to allow
>>current Paris users to read or pass along the info they need, but if you
>>guys find non-Paris user participation to be distracting, I'll respect
>>that
>>and stop posting. No offense taken - I'm just reading into your post that
>>maybe there are newer Paris users, or other participants that prefer this
> to
>>be a Paris users-only forum. If so, you have that right.
>>
>>I've been under the assumption that past Paris users are still welcome,
> but
>>if that isn't the case, please feel free to say so.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>>On 4/11/06 7:18 AM, in article 443bacc1$1@linux, "Steve Cox"
>><stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>> This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and
>>> encouraging
>>> the Paris users How??
>>> Steve
>>> "Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Howdy all,
>>>>
>>>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop by still.
>>> Alot
>>>> of interesting posts to shuffle through....
>>>>
>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools rep less
>>>> than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the new
> console
>>>> and surrounding furniture.
>>>>
>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed to
> Paris,
>>>> is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im still
> running
>>>> at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 years, but
>>> things
>>>> really have progressed in the Digidesign world.
>>>>
>>>> Just a few thoughts.....
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Dave
>>>>> You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include current
> Paris
>>>>> users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or Paris
>>>>> users
>>>> who
>>>>> are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is when
> folks
>>>>> leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:441d9384$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking
>>>>>> happened
>>>>>> tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but its time
>>> to
>>>>> move
>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week. I
> bought
>>>>>> a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual 2.0
> G5.
>>>>> Hence
>>>>>> the excitement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on it that
>>> have
>>>>>> done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer of
> the
>>>>> year
>>>>>> for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly believe
> Paris
>>>>>> added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt
>>>>>> achieve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>If you must use 2bus plugs, your best bet is to keep the load on the
Master card as light as possible. This will save resources for Global
plug-ins. Personally I prefer to mix without any global inserts, then
process after the fact. You can import the stereo mix files back into
Paris and process on the channel strips, which gives you more options
for EQ and dynamics. The interconnect ribbons are easy enough to
make... find an electronic parts supplier and build them yourself.
David.
Rich wrote:
> Thanks - is there a better solution for this or? I just have to find another
> cable set... Da Soniq still sells them I think...
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>The card assigned to Master is the one used for global. This is by
>>default card A, but you can assign other cards to be the master in the
>>config window.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>rich wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was going to add a third card (my spare) as I always seem to run out
>
> of
>
>>>effect processing during mixdown (no limit always does it) on the global.
>>> I wanted to use the extra card just so that I would be able to add more
>>>to the global inserts - does golbal use card A DSP or? Anyone have any
>
> other
>
>>>idea's. Also if you have a cable you want to move let me know?
>
>Hey John, Point taken...Steve
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy it is and
>it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's great
help
>!
>
>John
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not that other
>people
>>aren't welcome! Both guys are entitled to their opinion. I think all
should
>>be welcome.
>>
>>For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former Paris
>>users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by saying things
>>like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than Paris. It
>>is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT users have
>>actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help our group
>>much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing out, or
>your
>>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him so to
>speak.
>> For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but don't
>>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage people
>>to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>>
>> I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed; )
raved
>>about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not so sure
>>that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys here
that
>>thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo. Some
>>times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived as being
>>better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some people
love
>>the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the working
>>methods of newer software. There will always be something to come out
that
>>will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary useable.
>> When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris becomes vary
>>hard to beat.
>>
>>Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have, or are
>>considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard". Many feel
>>that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For some
people
>>this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do. However, it
>>really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the equipment
>>you use.
>>
>>Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is really
>>no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the cost
>>of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville, or
Austin,
>>then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live instruments,
>>so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company wants to
>>give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL 9000 and
>>a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and your
>talking
>>sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the world. There
>>have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By the way,
>>he still mixes with Paris!
>>
>>Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect saying
>>that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris users.
>
>>
>>"Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>How does YOUR post help this newsgroup? You've been here what... two weeks
>>>now and this isn't the first time you've come out swinging. Dave is well
>>>respected here and welcome to post whatever the hell he whats to. OK?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Dave,
>>>>This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and encouraging
>>>>the Paris users How??
>>>>Steve
>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Howdy all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop by still.
>>>>Alot
>>>>>of interesting posts to shuffle through....
>>>>>
>>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools rep
less
>>>>>than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the new
>console
>>>>>and surrounding furniture.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed to
>>Paris,
>>>>>is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im still
>>running
>>>>>at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 years,
but
>>>>things
>>>>>really have progressed in the Digidesign world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a few thoughts.....
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Hey Dave
>>>>>>You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include current
>>Paris
>>>>>>users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or Paris
users
>>>>>who
>>>>>>are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is when
>>>folks
>>>>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around.
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>MR
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:441d9384$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howdy all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking happened
>>>>>>> tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but its time
>>>>to
>>>>>>move
>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week.
I
>>bought
>>>>>>> a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual 2.0
>>G5.
>>>>>>Hence
>>>>>>> the excitement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on it that
>>>>have
>>>>>>> done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer of
>>the
>>>>>>year
>>>>>>> for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly believe
>>>Paris
>>>>>>> added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt achieve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect saying
that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris users. <
Sooooo then...........let's just argue about Macs some more
;oP
(ducking for cover)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:443bf890$1@linux...
>
> Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not that other
people
> aren't welcome! Both guys are entitled to their opinion. I think all
should
> be welcome.
>
> For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former Paris
> users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by saying
things
> like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than Paris. It
> is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT users have
> actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help our group
> much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing out, or
your
> getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him so to
speak.
> For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but don't
> drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage people
> to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>
> I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed; )
raved
> about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not so sure
> that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys here
that
> thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo. Some
> times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived as being
> better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some people
love
> the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the working
> methods of newer software. There will always be something to come out
that
> will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary
useable.
> When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris becomes vary
> hard to beat.
>
> Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have, or are
> considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard". Many feel
> that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For some
people
> this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do. However, it
> really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the equipment
> you use.
>
> Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is really
> no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the cost
> of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville, or
Austin,
> then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live
instruments,
> so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company wants to
> give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL 9000 and
> a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and your
talking
> sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the world.
There
> have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By the way,
> he still mixes with Paris!
>
> Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect saying
> that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris users.
>
> "Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >Steve,
> >
> >How does YOUR post help this newsgroup? You've been here what... two
weeks
> >now and this isn't the first time you've come out swinging. Dave is well
> >respected here and welcome to post whatever the hell he whats to. OK?
> >
> >
> >"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>Dave,
> >>This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and
encouraging
> >>the Paris users How??
> >>Steve
> >>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Howdy all,
> >>>
> >>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop by still.
> >>Alot
> >>>of interesting posts to shuffle through....
> >>>
> >>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools rep
less
> >>>than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the new
console
> >>>and surrounding furniture.
> >>>
> >>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed to
> Paris,
> >>>is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im still
> running
> >>>at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 years, but
> >>things
> >>>really have progressed in the Digidesign world.
> >>>
> >>> Just a few thoughts.....
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>Hey Dave
> >>>>You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include current
> Paris
> >>>>users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or Paris
users
> >>>who
> >>>>are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is when
> >folks
> >>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around.
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>MR
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
> >>>>news:441d9384$1@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Howdy all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking
happened
> >>>>> tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but its time
> >>to
> >>>>move
> >>>>> on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week. I
> bought
> >>>>> a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual 2.0
> G5.
> >>>>Hence
> >>>>> the excitement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on it that
> >>have
> >>>>> done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer of
> the
> >>>>year
> >>>>> for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly believe
> >Paris
> >>>>> added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt
achieve.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>Well,
I use PT HD, Logic 7 and Paris, with considerable investments in all over the years.
The fact that Paris is no longer made means that people are eventually either going to supplement their workflow with other systems, or move on once the hardware is no longer easy to come by.
Dawfensiveness is just plain silly. That hasn't really been the spirit of this NG (although it has been touchy in the past at times) and I think we can all keep an open mind and help each other with good info on various platforms.
If someone's moving to HD is going to somehow make another Paris user feel "inadequate" about their system, then so be it. Paris can hold it's own sonically, and other systems will continue to have more features than Paris, but that's just the way it goes.
This place has always been a step above other NG's since I've been around here (1998), and it's aways been more about the community here than current daw wars..
Cheers,
TC
Steve Cox wrote:
> Hey John, Point taken...Steve
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy it is and
>>it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's great
>
> help
>
>>!
>>
>>John
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not that other
>>
>>people
>>
>>>aren't welcome! Both guys are entitled to their opinion. I think all
>
> should
>
>>>be welcome.
>>>
>>>For some time there has been a migration away from Paris by former Paris
>>>users. Some people have tried to justify their own choice by saying things
>>>like the waters are safe in PT land, or PT sounds better than Paris. It
>>>is discouraging to paris users, and kind of trolling. Some PT users have
>>>actually come here in the past just to troll, and it didn't help our group
>>>much. It is psychological, it makes you feel like your missing out, or
>>
>>your
>>
>>>getting left behind. When BT left, a lot of people went with him so to
>>
>>speak.
>>
>>>For the others that are going to switch, if you got to go, Ok, but don't
>>>drag people away with you by knocking Paris. We need to encourage people
>>>to stick around. This NG is shrinking!
>>>
>>>I remember vary well a certain somebody, who I will leave unnamed; )
>
> raved
>
>>>about Nuendo for months on end. Now that certain somebody is not so sure
>>>that Nuendo is better sounding than Paris! ; ) A couple of guys here
>
> that
>
>>>thought Nuendo was the answer to Paris are now questioning Nuendo. Some
>>>times other stuff just sounds different, and initially perceived as being
>>>better. Of course paris was left behind feature wise, and some people
>
> love
>
>>>the whiz-bang of all that. Others prefer the capabilities and the working
>>>methods of newer software. There will always be something to come out
>
> that
>
>>>will be more slick than Paris. Paris is still pretty slick and vary useable.
>>>When combined with a second DAW for effect processing, Paris becomes vary
>>>hard to beat.
>>>
>>>Many Paris commercial studio owners have expressed that they have, or are
>>>considering going with PT because it's "The industry standard". Many feel
>>>that if they don't jump to PT that they are losing business. For some
>
> people
>
>>>this is the case, and they need to do what they need to do. However, it
>>>really should be based on the quality of the end result, not the equipment
>>>you use.
>>>
>>>Everybody has different needs. For most project studios, there is really
>>>no need for an expensive system like PT, or 2K for Nuendo, plus the cost
>>>of hardware. If your in a major market like N.Y., L.A., Nashville, or
>
> Austin,
>
>>>then PT makes sense. For myself, I'm more in to recording live instruments,
>>>so paris works fine and sounds great. The day a record company wants to
>>>give me a million dollars to record an album and insist on a SSL 9000 and
>>>a PT system, I'll buy them. When it comes to making a record, and your
>>
>>talking
>>
>>>sound quality, Paris can stand toe to toe with any DAW in the world. There
>>>have been some pretty big records done on Paris, just ask BT. By the way,
>>>he still mixes with Paris!
>>>
>>>Opinions are Ok, but I feel that post about PT that are in effect saying
>>>that PT is better than Paris, are not all that helpful to Paris users.
>
>
>>>"Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Steve,
>>>>
>>>>How does YOUR post help this newsgroup? You've been here what... two weeks
>>>>now and this isn't the first time you've come out swinging. Dave is well
>>>>respected here and welcome to post whatever the hell he whats to. OK?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Dave,
>>>>>This being a Paris forum and all,.... your post is helping and encouraging
>>>>>the Paris users How??
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Howdy all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Havent dropped by in a month or so. Ill endeavour to drop by still.
>>>>>
>>>>>Alot
>>>>>
>>>>>>of interesting posts to shuffle through....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My PT's rig is going very well. It took me and the pro tools rep
>
> less
>
>>>>>>than 48 hours to completely swap over systems. That includes the new
>>
>>console
>>
>>>>>>and surrounding furniture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main difference to me with the mix bus in PT's, as opposed to
>>>
>>>Paris,
>>>
>>>>>>is how much larger it is. Its easier to get cloudy in Paris. Im still
>>>
>>>running
>>>
>>>>>>at 48KHz on PT's. Paris certainly was a great way to spend 6 years,
>
> but
>
>>>>>things
>>>>>
>>>>>>really have progressed in the Digidesign world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a few thoughts.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Dave
>>>>>>>You know, this group could almost be newly titled to include current
>>>
>>>Paris
>>>
>>>>>>>users and Paris users who have moved on to other systems, or Paris
>
> users
>
>>>>>>who
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>are using other systems with Paris. For me the greatest loss is when
>>>>
>>>>folks
>>>>
>>>>>>>leave Paris and then this NG. I hope you'll stick around.
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>MR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:441d9384$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Howdy all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sad but exciting moment has arrived. My last Paris tracking happened
>>>>>>>>tonight. Six years Paris has been a loyal friend to me, but its time
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>move
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My Pro Tools rig has arrived, and Im setting it up this week.
>
> I
>
>>>bought
>>>
>>>>>>>>a Pro tools HD3 accel PCI-e rig, with a control 24, and a dual 2.0
>>>
>>>G5.
>>>
>>>>>>>Hence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the excitement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> paris has treated me well. Ive done a number of records on it that
>>>>>
>>>>>have
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>done quite well here in Australia. I have won Engineer/producer of
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>year
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>for the last 2 years here in Western Australia, and I truly believe
>>>>
>>>>Paris
>>>>
>>>>>>>>added something to my sound that other digital studios couldnt achieve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am keeping my Paris rig, cuz i cant entirely let go yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers to ya all.!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>Bravo Dimitrios, how you discovered it?
Thanks
Zmora
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>I figured it wasn't vocals when you used the term punchy.
>I do like the La2a also on Kk & snr combined with unprocessed
>tracks.
>
>I'll give these new settings a try. Thanks!
>Tom
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:443bea15$1@linux...
>
> Dear Tom,
> I was trying it on a snare...
> I believe that the 0 release is a new way of using that eds =
>compressor.
> I am now very satisfied with the results I get changing the lookahead
=
>(try
> 0 lookahead for great punch) the ratio from 1.15 to 1.40 and then the
=
>attack
> to achieve any desired sttings...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Dimitrios,
> >What's your application for these settings?
> >Tom
> > "rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:443bd829$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info (again - you've had a ton of great posts)... =
>I'm =3D
> >going
> > to try this one out ASAP! =3D20
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >
> > >By changing the ratio down to 1.25:1 and the lookahead up to 0.012
=
>it
> =3D
> >is
> > becoming
> > >frighteningly close to LA2
> > >
> > >I think the whole new thing is that the EDS compressor becomes a =
>=3D
> >wonderful
> > >compressor if you use 0 as release time as standard and -96 =
>threshold
> =3D
> >then
> > >you can tailor the sound to your likings.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Dimitrios
> > >
> > >
> > >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Hi,
> > >>I was comparing eds compressor setting I found with LA2 from =
>UAD1, I
> =3D
> >think
> > >>you can tweak to make it sound the same.
> > >>Can anyone try these settings and compare with his UAD1 ?
> > >>If someone agrees I might sell then my UAD1 ? :)
> > >>
> > >>Threshold: -96
> > >>Ratio: 1.40:1
> > >>Attack: 0.80
> > >>Release : 00000000
> > >>Lookahead 0.004 (lower gives more punch !! ,better than LA2)
> > >>Output 10.3
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>Dimitrios
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What's your application for =
>these=3D20
> >settings?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"rich" <<A=3D20
> > =
>href=3D3D"mailto:studiodog_99@yahoo.com">studiodog_99@yahoo.com</A>> =3D
> >wrote in=3D20
> > message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:443bd829$1@linux">news:443bd829$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><=
>BR>=3D
> >Thanks=3D20
> > for the info (again - you've had a ton of great posts)... I'm =3D
> >going<BR>to try=3D20
> > this one out ASAP! <BR><BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>By changing the ratio down to 1.25:1 and the =3D
> >lookahead=3D20
> > up to 0.012 it is<BR>becoming<BR>>frighteningly close to=3D20
> > LA2<BR>><BR>>I think the whole new thing is that the EDS =3D
> >compressor=3D20
> > becomes a wonderful<BR>>compressor if you use 0 as release time as
=
>=3D
> >standard=3D20
> > and -96 threshold then<BR>>you can tailor the sound to your=3D20
> > =3D
> >likings.<BR>><BR>>Cheers,<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>><BR >>"=3D
> >Dimitrios"=3D20
> > <<A =
>href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Hi,<BR>>>I was comparing eds =3D
> >compressor=3D20
> > setting I found with LA2 from UAD1, I think<BR>>>you can tweak =3D
> >to make=3D20
> > it sound the same.<BR>>>Can anyone try these settings and =3D
> >compare with=3D20
> > his UAD1 ?<BR>>>If someone agrees I might sell then my =3D
> >UAD1 ?=3D20
> > :)<BR>>><BR>>>Threshold: -96<BR>>>Ratio:=3D20
> > 1.40:1<BR>>>Attack: 0.80<BR>>>Release :=3D20
> > 00000000<BR>>>Lookahead 0.004 (lower gives more punch !! ,better =
>=3D
> >than=3D20
> > LA2)<BR>>>Output=3D20
> > =3D
> >10.3<BR>>><BR>>>Regards,<BR>>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR></BL=3D
> >OCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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><STYLE></STYLE>
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><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I figured it wasn't vocals when you =
>used the term=20
>punchy.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do like the La2a also on Kk =
>& snr=20
>combined with unprocessed</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>tracks.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll give these new settings a =
>try. =20
>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:443bea15$1@linux">news:443bea15$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Dear=
>=20
> Tom,<BR>I was trying it on a snare...<BR>I believe that the 0 release
=
>is a new=20
> way of using that eds compressor.<BR>I am now very satisfied with the
=
>results=20
> I get changing the lookahead (try<BR>0 lookahead for great punch) the
=
>ratio=20
> from 1.15 to 1.40 and then the attack<BR>to achieve any desired=20
> sttings...<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>What's your =
>application for=20
> these settings?<BR>>Tom<BR>> "rich" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:studiodog_99@yahoo.com">studiodog_99@yahoo.com</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message =
>=3D<BR>>news:443bd829$1@linux...<BR>><BR>><BR>> Thanks =
>
> for the info (again - you've had a ton of great posts)... I'm=20
> =3D<BR>>going<BR>> to try this one out ASAP!=20
> =3D20<BR>><BR>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >By changing the ratio down =
>to=20
> 1.25:1 and the lookahead up to 0.012 it<BR>=3D<BR>>is<BR>> =
>
> becoming<BR>> >frighteningly close to LA2<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> >I think the whole new thing is that the EDS =
>compressor=20
> becomes a =3D<BR>>wonderful<BR>> >compressor if you use =
>0 as=20
> release time as standard and -96 =
>threshold<BR>=3D<BR>>then<BR>> =20
> >you can tailor the sound to your likings.<BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
> >Cheers,<BR>> >Dimitrios<BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> >"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> >><BR>> >>Hi,<BR>> =20
> >>I was comparing eds compressor setting I found with LA2 from =
>UAD1,=20
> I<BR>=3D<BR>>think<BR>> >>you can tweak to make it =
>sound the=20
> same.<BR>> >>Can anyone try these settings and compare =
>with=20
> his UAD1 ?<BR>> >>If someone agrees I might sell =
>then my=20
> UAD1 ? :)<BR>> >><BR>> >>Threshold:=20
> -96<BR>> >>Ratio: 1.40:1<BR>> >>Attack:=20
> 0.80<BR>> >>Release : 00000000<BR>> =
>>>Lookahead=20
> 0.004 (lower gives more punch !! ,better than LA2)<BR>> =20
> >>Output 10.3<BR>> >><BR>> =20
> >>Regards,<BR>> >>Dimitrios<BR>> =20
> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
>4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><F=
>ONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What's your application for=20
> =
>these=3D20<BR>>settings?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>&l=
>t;FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000 2px=20
> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"rich"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:studiodog_99@yahoo.com">studiodog_99@yahoo.com</A'>mailto:=
>studiodog_99@yahoo.com">studiodog_99@yahoo.com</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message =
><A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:443bd829$1@linux">news:443bd829$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR'=
>>news:443bd829$1@linux">news:443bd829$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
><BR><BR</A>>=3D<BR>>Thanks=3D20<BR>> =20
> for the info (again - you've had a ton of great posts)... I'm=20
> =3D<BR>>going<BR>to try=3D20<BR>> this one out ASAP! =
>
> <BR><BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20'>mailto:m=
>usurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>By changing the ratio down to 1.25:1 =
>and the=20
> =3D<BR>>lookahead=3D20<BR>> up to 0.012 it=20
> is<BR>becoming<BR>>frighteningly close =
>to=3D20<BR>> =20
> LA2<BR>><BR>>I think the whole new thing is that the =
>EDS=20
> =3D<BR>>compressor=3D20<BR>> becomes a=20
> wonderful<BR>>compressor if you use 0 as release time as=20
> =3D<BR>>standard=3D20<BR>> and -96 threshold =
>then<BR>>you can=20
> tailor the sound to your=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>likings.<BR>><BR>>Cheers,<BR>>Dimit=
>rios<BR>><BR>><BR>>"=3D<BR>>Dimitrios"=3D20=
><BR>> =20
> <<A href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20'>mailto:m=
>usurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Hi,<BR>>>I was =
>comparing=20
> eds =3D<BR>>compressor=3D20<BR>> setting I found with LA2 =
>from UAD1, I=20
> think<BR>>>you can tweak =3D<BR>>to =
>make=3D20<BR>> it=20
> sound the same.<BR>>>Can anyone try these settings and=20
> =3D<BR>>compare with=3D20<BR>> his UAD1 =
>?<BR>>>If someone=20
> agrees I might sell then my =3D<BR>>UAD1 ?=3D20<BR>> =20
> :)<BR>>><BR>>>Threshold:=20
> -96<BR>>>Ratio:=3D20<BR>> =
>1.40:1<BR>>>Attack:=20
> 0.80<BR>>>Release :=3D20<BR>> =20
> 00000000<BR>>>Lookahead 0.004 (lower g
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