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excelav
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love (and own) all the Big Star records,
>but I wouldn't stack them up against the Beatles or Kinks.
> Westerberg is an original voice in my mind as well.
> Did you mean to cite Lyle Lovett, The Replacements, Big Star or Wilco
>as NEW artists? Or was this just speaking to a 60's fixation that I don't
>actually have but was, I guess, implied by my post?
>-Phil
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>This attitude drives me up the wall, Hendrix to one side. Blah blah blah,
>>sixties sixties sixties, no spirit today, blah blah blah. Try out Paul
Westerberg,
>>Lyle Lovett, Big Star, Jeff Tweedy, Thievery Corporation, and
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| Re: the majesty of Paris [message #84438 is a reply to message #84436] |
Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00 |
Tom Bruhl
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href="mailto:daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com" target="_blank">daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Thanks all for the input. Very interesting and more comprehensive than I'd
>expected!
>
>Any thoughts on how the Digi 002 / 003 fit into the picture. I'm particularly
>concerned about A/D D/A (although good pre's are handy too), because I've
>got a few fairly ok external pre's (SPL Gold Mic v1 and soon to get a DAV
>BG-1). I also need a bunch of I/Os that aren't just pre's (which is why
>the Focusrite was appealing, with line I/O, adat I/O, midi I/O etc).
>
>Out of curiousity, in terms of pure A/D D/A, how do any of these units stack
>up against Paris? I'm not keen to take (too much of) a step backwards if
>I do move, but portability - not to mention some of the features of Cubase
>(automatic plug in latency compensation, effects on subgroups, better automation,
>integration wtih midi/vsti's) have got me thinking about moving. Though
not
>currently being a cubase user, that involves a whole steep learning curve!
>
>Cheers,
>D
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Chris.. Thanks for your input. I'll have to check out the Micstasy
Pre-amp.
>>
>>
>>I have to put M-Audio driver support right up there with RME. I have the
>>410FW unit and the newer 192 PCI card in a system, and they are fast and
>>reliable as heck. Never a problem. AND,(smile) that old 2496 card drivers
>>(with the Emagic easi) driver support still holds it's own..Expecialy for
>>a Giga PC/MAC...
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>Hi Lamont,
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>> hey Chris, I agree, but I think the best sounding mic pres in a fire
>wire
>>>> unit that for some reason, get's overlooked is the Mackie 400F Onyx
http://www.mackie.com/products/400F/index.html
>>>>
>>>> And if you need 8 mic pres and stand alone convertor, the Mackie 800
>http://www.mackie.com/products/800r/index.html.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>The Mackie 400f does sound very good but IMHO has poor driver and poor
>
>>>support for the drivers. Although they have way better drivers than the
>>
>>>Onyx series at least.
>>>The 800f is a very good converters for sure. I should re-stated the
>>>Digimax to say they have the best value not just sound. They win hands
>
>>>down for features but yes the Mackie's will probably sound better.:)
>>>
>>>
>>>> We did a shoot out at our local GC with all the mic pres ,both firewire
>>(Mackie,
>>>> RME, Motu, Prosonus Focusrites.and UAD, Trident.. Well, the UAD was
>the
>>>> best of course..BUT, the Mackies were a second to none..Then, Motu,
RME,
>>>> Presonus,lastly focusrite.
>>>>
>>>GC ummm must have been a very scientific test. ;)
>>>
>>>> Another unit that often gets over lookedbut sounds amazingly great arfe
>>the
>>>> Tascams units.
>>>>
>>>> The FW1804, 1814,1082,1884 units converters are very very nice. The
pres
>>>> are good as well with good driver support.
>>>>
>>>The AD/DA sound good. The Mic-Pres didn't impress me but don't sound
>>>bad. The diver support is so so but I think that has more to do with
>>>Tascam's piss poor support. Don't get me talking about Gigastudio!!
>>>
>>>> Another great option that get's over look are the M-Audio pre/converters.
>>>> Like the Octane. These babys sounds great and I'll put them up against
>>many
>>>> BIG $$ units..
>>>>
>>>Yes they sound very good but not supporting higher sample rates is kind
>>
>>>of a dead end. I wish they would update it.
>>>I noticed that M-Audios support and quality control seems to have gone
>
>>>down sense the Avid thing. You would think it would get better.Some of
>
>>>their products are very disappointing. The Tampa Mic-Pre kicks butt but
>>
>>>is way to big!
>>>
>>>> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Octane-main.html
>>>>
>>>> I really don't we (me included) are stuck on RME. While I have 2 cards
>>and
>>>> love them for their good overall sound and driver support, their are
>others
>>>> that are just as good and better.
>>>>
>>>Still the best over all performance and driver support and at this point
>>
>>>I've installed and tested way too many sound cards and in the end the
>>>ones that have had the lest troubels and the most responsive support
>>>have been RME. BTW that new Micstasy Pre-amp they have sound fricking
>>>amazing as well as the new AD/DA they the the ADI8-QS and being able to
>>
>>>daisy chain them via MADI has made for killer live setups.
>>>We're gonna be first of the PCI-e version of the HDSP cards in about 2
>
>>>weeks which will be nice for Apple users.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HI Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Focusrite does not sound nowhere near is as good as Paris.
>>>>> If you need to use firewire on your new system then save up more money
>>
>>>>> for either a RME Fireface 400 or 800 or for a Motu 828 or 896.
>>>>> Both have far nicer analog I/O and better digital clocks. If you need
>>
>>>>> more AD/DA and or Mic-pres then the Presonus Digimax FS converters
that
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> John recommends are the best sounding stand alone converters I've heard
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> under $1000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I'm considering moving to another system. Probably Cubase on PC and
>>laptop.
>>>>>> Although I might be tempted to stay if I can pick up a Magma unit
for
>>>>>>
>>>> a decent
>>>>
>>>>>> price to let me use Paris on a laptop.
>>>
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| Re: the majesty of Paris [message #84439 is a reply to message #84438] |
Sat, 12 May 2007 20:36 |
Carl Amburn
Messages: 214
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>>>
>>>>>> I was considering the Focusrite Saffire Pro 26, and wondered if anyone
>>>>>>
>>>> had
>>>>
>>>>>> any experience of this unit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also keen to hear how the Paris converters stack up against more
>>recent
>>>>>> ones, e.g. those in the Saffire. I know that the Paris A/D D/A was
>pretty
>>>>>> sweet back when I bought it in 1998, but I'm guessing that even fairly
>>>>>>
>>>> cheap
>>>>
>>>>>> converters these days would match or exceed the 24bit 8 in / out cards
>>>>>>
>>>> on
>>>>
>>>>>> Paris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>
>>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>Bottom line, if a person can't find great new music it's because they're
>not looking hard enough.
>
>TCB
Couldn't agree more!!!!fuckwad...i kinda like the sound of that...though i'm more of a
pisshead centrist.
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 05:26:05 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4667e7e6$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Hehe, yes I noticed that. You're right. It doesn't seem to gain the
>> attention...
>>
>> Have you tried putting a link over here pointing people at it...?
>>
>> I actually want the political discussion to continue, but there is a
>> decent
>> percentage here who don't like it, and I think we should respect that and
>> try and keep it off the main group. It's clear it's going to happen no
>> matter
>> what anybody says anyhow, unless I go all admin on you and start deleting
>> posts, which I'm not going to do, so if we could find a way to move it AND
>> still have people pay attention...?
>>
>> Would it help or hinder if I renamed the group Politics?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>
>I think that since no one ever changes their minds no matter what evedince
>may be presented that refutes their lemminglike beliefs, you should have one
>thread that says:
>
>Post your thoughts about fuckwad liberals here:
>
>and another that says :
>
>Post your thoughts about asshole neo-cons here:
>
>That way those who just want to vent can do it and the "ventees" can diss
>the "ventors" by simply ignoring them.
>
>We can also monitor both threads for turncoat moderates who post to both
>threads and diss them at every turn no matter which thread they post to, and
>when we get enough of these, turn them in to Rush Limbaugh for a good public
>drubbing.
>
>;o)
>
>
>Hi lamont,
And you can use the M=Powered pro Tools and use Cubase or whatever else.
Chris
LaMont wrote:
> Dan,
>
> The M-Audio Project Mix I/O unit is better than the 002 and more flexible
> than the 003..
>
> "Dan B" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Thanks all for the input. Very interesting and more comprehensive than I'd
>> expected!
>>
>> Any thoughts on how the Digi 002 / 003 fit into the picture. I'm particularly
>> concerned about A/D D/A (although good pre's are handy too), because I've
>> got a few fairly ok external pre's (SPL Gold Mic v1 and soon to get a DAV
>> BG-1). I also need a bunch of I/Os that aren't just pre's (which is why
>> the Focusrite was appealing, with line I/O, adat I/O, midi I/O etc).
>>
>> Out of curiousity, in terms of pure A/D D/A, how do any of these units stack
>> up against Paris? I'm not keen to take (too much of) a step backwards if
>> I do move, but portability - not to mention some of the features of Cubase
>> (automatic plug in latency compensation, effects on subgroups, better automation,
>> integration wtih midi/vsti's) have got me thinking about moving. Though
> not
>> currently being a cubase user, that involves a whole steep learning curve!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> D
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> Hey Chris.. Thanks for your input. I'll have to check out the Micstasy
> Pre-amp.
>>>
>>> I have to put M-Audio driver support right up there with RME. I have the
>>> 410FW unit and the newer 192 PCI card in a system, and they are fast and
>>> reliable as heck. Never a problem. AND,(smile) that old 2496 card drivers
>>> (with the Emagic easi) driver support still holds it's own..Expecialy for
>>> a Giga PC/MAC...
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Lamont,
>>>>
>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>> hey Chris, I agree, but I think the best sounding mic pres in a fire
>> wire
>>>>> unit that for some reason, get's overlooked is the Mackie 400F Onyx
> http://www.mackie.com/products/400F/index.html
>>>>> And if you need 8 mic pres and stand alone convertor, the Mackie 800
>> http://www.mackie.com/products/800r/index.html.
>>>>>
>>>> The Mackie 400f does sound very good but IMHO has poor driver and poor
>>>> support for the drivers. Although they have way better drivers than the
>>>> Onyx series at least.
>>>> The 800f is a very good converters for sure. I should re-stated the
>>>> Digimax to say they have the best value not just sound. They win hands
>>>> down for features but yes the Mackie's will probably sound better.:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We did a shoot out at our local GC with all the mic pres ,both firewire
>>> (Mackie,
>>>>> RME, Motu, Prosonus Focusrites.and UAD, Trident.. Well, the UAD was
>> the
>>>>> best of course..BUT, the Mackies were a second to none..Then, Motu,
> RME,
>>>>> Presonus,lastly focusrite.
>>>>>
>>>> GC ummm must have been a very scientific test. ;)
>>>>
>>>>> Another unit that often gets over lookedbut sounds amazingly great arfe
>>> the
>>>>> Tascams units.
>>>>>
>>>>> The FW1804, 1814,1082,1884 units converters are very very nice. The
> pres
>>>>> are good as well with good driver support.
>>>>>
>>>> The AD/DA sound good. The Mic-Pres didn't impress me but don't sound
>>>> bad. The diver support is so so but I think that has more to do with
>>>> Tascam's piss poor support. Don't get me talking about Gigastudio!!
>>>>
>>>>> Another great option that get's over look are the M-Audio pre/converters.
>>>>> Like the Octane. These babys sounds great and I'll put them up against
>>> many
>>>>> BIG $$ units..
>>>>>
>>>> Yes they sound very good but not supporting higher sample rates is kind
>>>> of a dead end. I wish they would update it.
>>>> I noticed that M-Audios support and quality control seems to have gone
>>>> down sense the Avid thing. You would think it would get better.Some of
>>>> their products are very disappointing. The Tampa Mic-Pre kicks butt but
>>>> is way to big!
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Octane-main.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I really don't we (me included) are stuck on RME. While I have 2 cards
>>> and
>>>>> love them for their good overall sound and driv
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| Re: the majesty of Paris [message #84440 is a reply to message #84439] |
Sat, 12 May 2007 21:14 |
Tom Bruhl
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er support, their are
>> others
>>>>> that are just as good and better.
>>>>>
>>>> Still the best over all performance and driver support and at this point
>>>> I've installed and tested way too many sound cards and in the end the
>
>>>> ones that have had the lest troubels and the most responsive support
>>>> have been RME. BTW that new Micstasy Pre-amp they have sound fricking
>
>>>> amazing as well as the new AD/DA they the the ADI8-QS and being able to
>>>> daisy chain them via MADI has made for killer live setups.
>>>> We're gonna be first of the PCI-e version of the HDSP cards in about 2
>>>> weeks which will be nice for Apple users.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Dan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Focusrite does not sound nowhere near is as good as Paris.
>>>>>> If you need to use firewire on your new system then save up more money
>>>>>> for either a RME Fireface 400 or 800 or for a Motu 828 or 896.
>>>>>> Both have far nicer analog I/O and better digital clocks. If you need
>>>>>> more AD/DA and or Mic-pres then the Presonus Digimax FS converters
> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> John recommends are the best sounding stand alone converters I've heard
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> under $1000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I'm considering moving to another system. Probably Cubase on PC and
>>> laptop.
>>>>>>> Although I might be tempted to stay if I can pick up a Magma unit
> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>> a decent
>>>>>
>>>>>>> price to let me use Paris on a laptop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was considering the Focusrite Saffire Pro 26, and wondered if anyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>> had
>>>>>
>>>>>>> any experience of this unit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also keen to hear how the Paris converters stack up against more
>>> recent
>>>>>>> ones, e.g. those in the Saffire. I know that the Paris A/D D/A was
>> pretty
>>>>>>> sweet back when I bought it in 1998, but I'm guessing that even fairly
>>>>>>>
>>>>> cheap
>>>>>
>>>>>>> converters these days would match or exceed the 24bit 8 in / out cards
>>>>>>>
>>>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>> ADK
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comThis is the best time of year to buy a Mac because of the promotions. Sign
up for underwater basket weaving for the fall and you might be able to score
a free iPod now.
Hey Jamie, you might want to check this out.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-780-5009/WebObjects/EducationIn dividual?cid=AOS-AM-109651-C0002395-A10000078031&type=hi gherEd&family=BackToSchool2007I thought that centrists were dickheads..........but I'm old and behind the
times.......
;o)
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m68g6391kpngpvtg9f4255bgagctlqkukv@4ax.com...
> fuckwad...i kinda like the sound of that...though i'm more of a
> pisshead centrist.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 05:26:05 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4667e7e6$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hehe, yes I noticed that. You're right. It doesn't seem to gain the
>>> attention...
>>>
>>> Have you tried putting a link over here pointing people at it...?
>>>
>>> I actually want the political discussion to continue, but there is a
>>> decent
>>> percentage here who don't like it, and I think we should respect that
>>> and
>>> try and keep it off the main group. It's clear it's going to happen no
>>> matter
>>> what anybody says anyhow, unless I go all admin on you and start
>>> deleting
>>> posts, which I'm not going to do, so if we could find a way to move it
>>> AND
>>> still have people pay attention...?
>>>
>>> Would it help or hinder if I renamed the group Politics?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>
>>I think that since no one ever changes their minds no matter what evedince
>>may be presented that refutes their lemminglike beliefs, you should have
>>one
>>thread that says:
>>
>>Post your thoughts about fuckwad liberals here:
>>
>>and another that says :
>>
>>Post your thoughts about asshole neo-cons here:
>>
>>That way those who just want to vent can do it and the "ventees" can diss
>>the "ventors" by simply ignoring them.
>>
>>We can also monitor both threads for turncoat moderates who post to both
>>threads and diss them at every turn no matter which thread they post to,
>>and
>>when we get enough of these, turn them in to Rush Limbaugh for a good
>>public
>>drubbing.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>Hey Aaron -
I can't remember the name of the company - but someone here mentioned (a
while back) some drum mics that the old engineers from CAD, now in
Tennessee, are making. I think they are pretty cheap, but had really great
results. Definitely worth at least taking a look at, IMO. I don't think they
are available at GC or MF.
rock on,
-Carl
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4667b958@linux...
> I've been looking for some 'decent' live mics for my 7 piece(piccolo snr,
> 8/10/12/14/16 toms & 20" kik) drum kit to start using in a month or so....
> came across these for cheap. I was wondering if anyone has any hands on
live
> experience (or studio for that matter, though I'll probably only use them
> live) with this micing kit.
>
>
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/CAD-Premium4-Drum-Mic -Pack?sku=271265
>
>
> Thanks guys!
> AA
>
>Lo and behold, the company is Equation Audio, and this is their link -
http://www.equationaudio.com/
I haven't tried these myself, but for the price, I might sometime soon.
-Carl
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4667b958@linux...
> I've been looking for some 'decent' live mics for my 7 piece(piccolo snr,
> 8/10/12/14/16 toms & 20" kik) drum kit to start using in a month or so....
> came across these for cheap. I was wondering if anyone has any hands on
live
> experience (or studio for that matter, though I'll probably only use them
> live) with this micing kit.
>
>
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/CAD-Premium4-Drum-Mic -Pack?sku=271265
>
>
> Thanks guys!
> AA
>
>http://www.v3hd.com/
Look promising lets hope it does as advertised. They are promising
allot...:)
Not sure how much it will be but I'm guessing in the 2k-3k range.
Chris
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comWOW!
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>http://www.v3hd.com/
>
>Look promising lets hope it does as advertised. They are promising
>allot...:)
>Not sure how much it will be but I'm guessing in the 2k-3k range.
>
>
>Chris
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.comIt's a freaking Paris channelwell certainly not as classy as fuckhead but waaay b
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Sun, 13 May 2007 08:06 |
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------=_NextPart_000_0124_01C7A90E.7B5039C0--I don't know about being dickheads, but most centrists I know wear flesh colored
turtlenecks and part their scalp in the middle...perhaps you are correct.
:)
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I thought that centrists were dickheads..........but I'm old and behind
the
>times.......
>
>;o)
>How about we make a new channel for Paris chat then?"wireline" <nospam@nra.org> wrote in message news:46684f58$1@linux...
>
> I don't know about being dickheads, but most centrists I know wear flesh
> colored
> turtlenecks and part their scalp in the middle...perhaps you are correct.
>
> :)
>
ROTFLM ****'in AO!!!! I just spewed coffee all over my keyboard.
;oDI can ask around Aaron and see if anyone local has them in stock. I surely
like to try stuff out before I buy it. Although - I can't say I'm needing
any drum mics right now, but I'd be glad to help you out.
-Carl
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
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> Carl, I tracked down the dealers in my area... no refunds on the equation
> audio - exchange only but they don't do Shure or Audix ... shoot..... to
top
> off they wanted $129 for one kick mic when MusFrnd wanted $129 for the 4
> piece pack of CAD in a flight type paded case (same kick plus 3 tom/snr
> mics). Guess I can't help out the local boys on this one.
>
> There is a place closer to you, Rawson Audio in OKC... know anything about
> them? No other Equation dealers in our state looks like. This could be
worth
> a trip to OKC if they have a better return policy, care to join me if that
> works out?
>
> Good catch on the name, I couldn't remember it either but you have saved
the
> day :)
>
> AA
>
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46683024$1@linux...
> > Lo and behold, the company is Equation Audio, and this is their link -
> > http://www.equationaudio.com/
> >
> > I haven't tried these myself, but for the price, I might sometime soon.
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> > news:4667b958@linux...
> >> I've been looking for some 'decent' live mics for my 7 piece(piccolo
snr,
> >> 8/10/12/14/16 toms & 20" kik) drum kit to start using in a month or
> >> so....
> >> came across these for cheap. I was wondering if anyone has any hands on
> > live
> >> experience (or studio for that matter, though I'll probably only use
them
> >> live) with this micing kit.
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/CAD-Premium4-Drum-Mic -Pack?sku=271265
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks guys!
> >> AA
> >>
> >>
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She had a rash.
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| Re: the majesty of Paris [message #84469 is a reply to message #84446] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 12:26 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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t;Brandon,
>>>
>>>IF you don't hear it on those other playback options, you sur ethe issue
>>
>>>isn't in the cd player or the headphones?
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Neil,
>>>>
>>>>I just put those L2s to be sure nothing was clipping.
>>>>The thresholds are at Zero and the output is -2db.
>>>>The problem is I dont hear it on my system. I hear it
>>>>on my portable CD player with my AKG headphones.
>>>>You dont hear it on a boombox or home stereo or car stereo.
>>>>The source material is not clipped I am sure.
>>>>Could this be a buffer setting that is screwing my export up?
>>>>thx
>>>>b
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Isolate one of the artifacts & zoom all the way in & see if you
>>>>>see a little spike on the waveform. If that's the case, then
>>>>>you need to edit those tiny sections somehow, if it's not, then
>>>>>start your processing with one plugin at a time until you hear
>>>>>it, then you'll know what's causing it (if it's a plugin).
>>>>>
>>>>>They're happeneing in the same places every time, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>That's all I can think of - Apart from the fact that you're
>>>>>absolutely psycho to be using three L2's in a row on a piece of
>>>>>this nature - lol! Are you perhaps clipping things that are
>>>>>already clipped, then clipping those clipped clips one last
>>>>>time before it hits your ears?
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>No no Autotune.
>>>>>>Vox main chain is:
>>>>>>Waves EQ (cutting only)
>>>>>>WavesL2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vox FX channel chain is:
>>>>>>SIR
>>>>>>WavesL2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Main Bus Chain is:
>>>>>>WavesEQ(cutting only)
>>>>>>Waves L2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thx
>>>>>>b
>>>>>>
>>>>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you have Autotune on the lead vox? I have found that plug to have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>NO headroom...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have finished that mix I posted earlier.
>>>>>>>>I incorporated a few dbs on the lead vox, a touch of the highs on
>
> th
>
>>>>>guitars
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and few other minor things.
>>>>>>>>No there is one major thing that is annoying the h@ll out of me.
>>>>>>>>I dont know if you can hear it on the MP3s I posted , but there is
>>
>>noticable
>>
>>>>>>>>distortion on the loud parts of the lead vocal.
>>>>>>>>I dont hear these on my mixing monitors during playback.
>>>>>>>>I thought it was the Antares Tube plug which I removed completely.
>>
>>That
>>
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>not it. I finally thru a limiter on the lead vox channel and also
>
> on
>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>vox FX channel just for good measure. I backed off of the threshold
>>>>
>>>>on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>main bus limiter by 2 db. It was set at -18 I took it to -16. You
>
> can
>
>>>>>>see
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>my mix was not very hot. This got rid of 75% of the problem. Now I
>>
>>hear
>>
>>>>>>little
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>artifacts on the lead vox that sound like processing artifacts to
>
> me.
>
>>>>>>I am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>wondering if SIR is doing this?? It is not wrapped. To mixdown I use
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>EXPORT in CUBASE SX3. Could it be somethng related to that method?
>>
>>Any
>>
>>>>>>ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks B
>>>>>>
>MOTU sure hate to waste rack space.
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> http://www.v3hd.com/
>
> Look promising lets hope it does as advertised. They are promising
> allot...:)
> Not sure how much it will be but I'm guessing in the 2k-3k range.
>
>
> Chris
>Yes I will try that.
Things I am going to try:
1 . Monitor from live daw with multiple headphones
2 . Monitor from daw with multiple headphones with mixdown file
3 . Remove SIR and listen to mixdown.
4 . Wrap SIR
5 . Remove all guitars and mixdown only leadvox and listen
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Brandon
>
>What about monitoring with the headphones directly from the output of
>the daw?
>
>Jeff
>
> wrote:
>> Nope still there with a different porable CD player.
>> I guess I will have to go on a witch hunt to find whats doin this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I thought of that, but I listen to a wide variety of different genres
on
>>
>> there
>>
>>>and have never heard that on any other CD.
>>>I guess I could try a different portable CD player and a different set
of
>>>headphones. I will try this.
>>>thx
>>>b
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Brandon,
>>>>
>>>>IF you don't hear it on those other playback options, you sur ethe issue
>>>
>>>>isn't in the cd player or the headphones?
>>>>
>>>>Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Neil,
>>>>>
>>>>>I just put those L2s to be sure nothing was clipping.
>>>>>The thresholds are at Zero and the output is -2db.
>>>>>The problem is I dont hear it on my system. I hear it
>>>>>on my portable CD player with my AKG headphones.
>>>>>You dont hear it on a boombox or home stereo or car stereo.
>>>>>The source material is not clipped I am sure.
>>>>>Could this be a buffer setting that is screwing my export up?
>>>>>thx
>>>>>b
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Isolate one of the artifacts & zoom all the way in & see if you
>>>>>>see a little spike on the waveform. If that's the case, then
>>>>>>you need to edit those tiny sections somehow, if it's not, then
>>>>>>start your processing with one plugin at a time until you hear
>>>>>>it, then you'll know what's causing it (if it's a plugin).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They're happeneing in the same places every time, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's all I can think of - Apart from the fact that you're
>>>>>>absolutely psycho to be using three L2's in a row on a piece of
>>>>>>this nature - lol! Are you perhaps clipping things that are
>>>>>>already clipped, then clipping those clipped clips one last
>>>>>>time before it hits your ears?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No no Autotune.
>>>>>>>Vox main chain is:
>>>>>>>Waves EQ (cutting only)
>>>>>>>WavesL2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Vox FX channel chain is:
>>>>>>>SIR
>>>>>>>WavesL2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Main Bus Chain is:
>>>>>>>WavesEQ(cutting only)
>>>>>>>Waves L2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thx
>>>>>>>b
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do you have Autotune on the lead vox? I have found that plug to
have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>NO headroom...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have finished that mix I posted earlier.
>>>>>>>>>I incorporated a few dbs on the lead vox, a touch of the highs on
>>
>> th
>>
>>>>>>guitars
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and few other minor things.
>>>>>>>>>No there is one major thing that is annoying the h@ll out of me.
>>>>>>>>>I dont know if you can hear it on the MP3s I posted , but there
is
>>>
>>>noticable
>>>
>>>>>>>>>distortion on the loud parts of the lead vocal.
>>>>>>>>>I dont hear these on my mixing monitors during playback.
>>>>>>>>>I thought it was the Antares Tube plug which I removed completely.
>>>
>>>That
>>>
>>>&g
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| Re: the majesty of Paris [message #84472 is a reply to message #84469] |
Sun, 13 May 2007 14:22 |
Nil
Messages: 245
Registered: March 2007
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CMCIA card. Those are about $250 extra.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 7 Jun 2007 23:57:02 +1000, "Neil" <IUOIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>Over no the "for sale" section of the NG, Paul Artola is selling
>an RME Multiface for $295... if he still has it, buy that & be
>done with it... you'll get pristine convertors, good support if
>you have any questions, a newly-updated driver that can be
>downloaded immediately, zero-latency monitoring, regardless of
>how many buffers you use oh, and did I say it sounds great?
>Just buy a new PCI card so you're sure to get v1.7 or later -
>there was a power-source issue on the older cards (it can be
>fixed for about $40, but why buy a used card for $xxx, then
>have to send it off to be fixed when about $260 gets you a new
>one).
>
>NeilI've tried to put these incident behind me, but I can't seem to forget
about them and I have to come clean it to the only people I know who
might understand.
When I worked as Chick Corea's studio manager we did a crazy little
experiment. We decided to see how good the Yamaha 02R96 mic pres are
compared to pristine vintage Neve 1073 modules. We used a 9 foot Yamaha
grand with Yamaha's mechanical recording/playback system (can't remember
the name of it) into 2 AKG C12s. We were able to get the exact same
performance on each take with the playback system.
In the end, we could hear that the Neve was ever so slightly warmer than
the 01v96, but we were shocked at how unremarkable the difference was -
really shocked. Bernie Kirsh, a true golden ears, and a world famous
engineer who has done virtually all of chick's records could not hear
much difference either, and I gotta tell you he is a real snob when it
comes to equipment.
In a similar vein, when I listened to the first Lynn Fuston mic pre CD
of female vox, I blindly picked the Mackie mic pre as my 3rd favorite.
However I must say that that comparo is not as accurate as the one with
the piano because despite how good she was, she could not do the exact
same performance every time, while the piano could.
Does that make me a bad person?On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:38:14 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:466666c1$1@linux...
>>
>> http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt_top.jsp?news_id=ap-d8 pivoe80&
>
>Cool !!!! Now it's like a Paris system
>
>(just trying to stay on topic so Kim doesn't send a guy over here to break
>my knees)
>
I think the problem lies in Honda's marketing department. Toyota
advertises the crap out of their system and Priusesses (Priuii??)
while Honda essentially put cars on the market and just left it up to
the consumer to find them.
My wife drives a Honda Insight. Wonderful car. Gets 52mpg average.
Different technology than the Toyotas - Toyota is an electric car
with gas assist - kicks butt around town. The Honda is a gas car with
electric assist - kicks butt on the highway.
But Sheri really had to dig to find anything about the Insight when
she went shopping three years ago. Same with the current Honda
hybrids.
Instead of whacking a model and blaming engineering, for once, please,
club the marketing weenies over the heads with baseball bats and buy
them a clue!!!!!!
pabThis is where I jump in as a piano Tech and tell you that of course the
differences were minute, since you were using a Yamaha piano to
"measure" your Yamaha Pres. If the O2R96 had been presented with
the more complex tone of a Steinway, or a Bosendorfer, or a Fazioli,
the difference between Pres would have been more apparent.
Actually, I'm joking. I think.
Thanks for the "confession". In fact through the past few years of belonging
to this group, I've come to know those whose sonic priorities align with
mine. You are one of them. I always appreciate your posts.
I tuned for Chick Corea once while he was in Toronto...
Peace,
Ted
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I've tried to put these incident behind me, but I can't seem to forget
>about them and I have to come clean it to the only people I know who
>might understand.
>
>When I worked as Chick Corea's studio manager we did a crazy little
>experiment. We decided to see how good the Yamaha 02R96 mic pres are
>compared to pristine vintage Neve 1073 modules. We used a 9 foot Yamaha
>grand with Yamaha's mechanical recording/playback system (can't remember
>the name of it) into 2 AKG C12s. We were able to get the exact same
>performance on each take with the playback system.
>
>In the end, we could hear that the Neve was ever so slightly warmer than
>the 01v96, but we were shocked at how unremarkable the difference was -
>really shocked. Bernie Kirsh, a true golden ears, and a world famous
>engineer who has done virtually all of chick's records could not hear
>much difference either, and I gotta tell you he is a real snob when it
>comes to equipment.
>
>In a similar vein, when I listened to the first Lynn Fuston mic pre CD
>of female vox, I blindly picked the Mackie mic pre as my 3rd favorite.
>However I must say that that comparo is not as accurate as the one with
>the piano because despite how good she was, she could not do the exact
>same performance every time, while the piano could.
>
>Does that make me a bad person?By the way, you refer to both the 02R96, and the 01V96, I'm guessing
you meant only to say the 02R96, right?
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I've tried to put these incident behind me, but I can't seem to forget
>about them and I have to come clean it to the only people I know who
>might understand.
>
>When I worked as Chick Corea's studio manager we did a crazy little
>experiment. We decided to see how good the Yamaha 02R96 mic pres are
>compared to pristine vintage Neve 1073 modules. We used a 9 foot Yamaha
>grand with Yamaha's mechanical recording/playback system (can't remember
>the name of it) into 2 AKG C12s. We were able to get the exact same
>performance on each take with the playback system.
>
>In the end, we could hear that the Neve was ever so slightly warmer than
>the 01v96, but we were shocked at how unremarkable the difference was -
>really shocked. Bernie Kirsh, a true golden ears, and a world famous
>engineer who has done virtually all of chick's records could not hear
>much difference either, and I gotta tell you he is a real snob when it
>comes to equipment.
>
>In a similar vein, when I listened to the first Lynn Fuston mic pre CD
>of female vox, I blindly picked the Mackie mic pre as my 3rd favorite.
>However I must say that that comparo is not as accurate as the one with
>the piano because despite how good she was, she could not do the exact
>same performance every time, while the piano could.
>
>Does that make me a bad person?Bill, I sometimes work at a studio which uses the Yammy Dm-2000. The studio
has avalons, neves, UADs, but long story short, when we compared those other
pres with the DM-2000, we choose the DM-2000 for the every day go to Pre..
They even put those pres on their portable studios AW2400/AW1600. I got a
few projects form those units and they sound as good anything out there..
Bottom line..it does'nt surprise me..:)
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I've tried to put these incident behind me, but I can't seem to forget
>about them and I have to come clean it to the only people I know who
>might understand.
>
>When I worked as Chick Corea's studio manager we did a crazy little
>experiment. We decided to see how good the Yamaha 02R96 mic pres are
>compared to pristine vintage Neve 1073 modules. We used a 9 foot Yamaha
>grand with Yamaha's mechanical recording/playback system (can't remember
>the name of it) into 2 AKG C12s. We were able to get the exact same
>performance on each take with the playback system.
>
>In the end, we could hear that the Neve was ever so slightly warmer than
>the 01v96, but we were shocked at how unremarkable the difference was -
>really shocked. Bernie Kirsh, a true golden ears, and a world famous
>engineer who has done virtually all of chick's records could not hear
>much difference either, and I gotta tell you he is a real snob when it
>comes to equipment.
>
>In a similar vein, when I listened to the first Lynn Fuston mic pre CD
>of female vox, I blindly picked the Mackie mic pre as my 3rd favorite.
>However I must say that that comparo is not as accurate as the one with
>the piano because despite how good she was, she could not do the exact
>same performance every time, while the piano could.
>
>Does that make me a bad person?Record companies.
That's what.
First, they sold us a vinyl copy of the album, which we happily paid
for.
Then, they re-issued it as a half-speed master, either MFSL, Nautilus,
or CBS's own flavor.
And then they expected us to pony up MORE $$$ for another copy of what
we already owned.
And some people, for whatever reason, bought either 8-track or
cassette copies of the album, buying ONCE AGAIN a copy of what they
already owned, for the same price as they originally paid.
Then along came cd's. And we had to pay $18 a pop for yet ANOTHER
copy of the album that we'd already paid for two-and-a-half times
over.
Fine. I don't like it, but I don't have a choice. The original vinyl
sounded like ass and was pressed on thin, flimsy recycled vinyl with
pieces of paper in it.
Now, they are remastering and reissuing all those same cd's as before,
maybe throwing a b-side or two in, and now expecting us to run out and
pay ANOTHER $15 for ANOTHER copy of the album that we've ALREADY
BOUGHT THREE TIMES. "I'm sorry the original cd sucked so hard. We've
remastered it the way we should have done 10 years ago - our mistake.
Please pay us again."
At some point, do they give us "updgrade pricing"??? "Mail your old
cd in plus $6 and we'll send you a copy of the new one"??????
Hell no. It's just an extortion scheme that they get away with
because they are the only ones you can buy that title from, they have
you by the short hairs, and you are pretty well screwed.
It pisses me off. A lot.
Sorry. Had to rant.
pabYep, the DM2K pre's are all that... I was quite stunned the
first time I dialed them up... I knew they were supposed to
be good, just wasn't expecting Great! 24 of them in the desk
is just a bonus.
David.
LaMont wrote:
> Bill, I sometimes work at a studio which uses the Yammy Dm-2000. The studio
> has avalons, neves, UADs, but long story short, when we compared those other
> pres with the DM-2000, we choose the DM-2000 for the every day go to Pre..
>
> They even put those pres on their portable studios AW2400/AW1600. I got a
> few projects form those units and they sound as good anything out there..
>
> Bottom line..it does'nt surprise me..:)
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>>I've tried to put these incident behind me, but I can't seem to forget
>>about them and I have to come clean it to the only people I know who
>>might understand.
>>
>>When I worked as Chick Corea's studio manager we did a crazy little
>>experiment. We decided to see how good the Yamaha 02R96 mic pres are
>>compared to pristine vintage Neve 1073 modules. We used a 9 foot Yamaha
>
>
>>grand with Yamaha's mechanical recording/playback system (can't remember
>
>
>>the name of it) into 2 AKG C12s. We were able to get the exact same
>>performance on each take with the playback system.
>>
>>In the end, we could hear that the Neve was ever so slightly warmer than
>
>
>>the 01v96, but we were shocked at how unremarkable the difference was -
>
>
>>really shocked. Bernie Kirsh, a true golden ears, and a world famous
>>engineer who has done virtually all of chick's records could not hear
>>much difference either, and I gotta tell you he is a real snob when it
>>comes to equipment.
>>
>>In a similar vein, when I listened to the first Lynn Fuston mic pre CD
>>of female vox, I blindly picked the Mackie mic pre as my 3rd favorite.
>>However I must say that that comparo is not as accurate as the one with
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>>the piano because despite how good she was, she could not do the exact
>>same performance every time, while the piano could.
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>>Does that make me a bad person?
>
>You know, now Deej will have to have one of the DM's, or....
AA
"Dave(EK Sound)" &l
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| Re: the majesty of Paris [message #84636 is a reply to message #84620] |
Tue, 15 May 2007 17:24 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
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:D"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Uh . . . Neil's the one with the tattoo and the chain, right?
Look, this is real easy, guys & gals - this is a Metal band, as
I'm sure you can tell from the pic (check variations of garb,
posing, & hairstyles for confirmation)... hence, it pretty much
goes without saying that I am the only one wearing something
other than black, or a gradient shade of black, for upper-body-
wear.
Sheesh!
Neil"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Ooo . . . a Hot Snortyhorse . . . excuse me . . . I need to get some air
. .
Sticking to the original topic of the thread, I have noticed
when I've done projects in PTHD (at another facility, since I
don't have PT here) the channels tend to redlight pretty
easily - hence, when I've imported PT tracks to SX, the levels
seem to be a lot lower than what I would normally record at,
were I recording in SX or Paris. So, is PT more peak-sensitive?
If so could this be part of the problem? IOW, the guy's just
not used to seeing stuff go to track that hot?
NeilNeil, are you married? 'Cause two guys in that band are putting horns on
you, dude! You gotta watch out with other musicians and *your* woman.
Paul Braun wrote:
> www.laidbak.com/ebay/paris/album/index.html
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> New pix from Dave EK, Neil, and a couple more from Rod.
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> Enjoy!
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> pabI don't know what you meant either, but I'm scared.
Sarah wrote:
> Hey, don't make me come over there, mister . . . I can turn a knob if I have
> to, and you won't like it one bit.
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> I don't even kn
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