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Re: Tower of Babel [message #97197 is a reply to message #97187] Fri, 21 March 2008 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Tower of Babel [message #97198 is a reply to message #97197] Fri, 21 March 2008 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Future proof for a little while anyway. Seems way to iffy to me.

Tom




"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
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"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message =
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=20
By the way, Martin - the three objections so far seem to be 1) =
size of box, 2) keying of slots and 3) power supply.

You took care of the box size question. Here's a picture of the =
inside of one of their regular boxes, showing the keying of the slots - =


=
http://virtuavia.eu/shop/images/detailed_images/big_pci_to_p ci_box.jpg

And here's an EDS showing its keying (it's the wrong =
orientation, but it should be easy to match up) -



That is the RIGHT keying for an EDS!=20




http://www.synrise.de/images/ensoniq-eds-1000.jpg

So those look pretty good to go, at least to me.=20

In my email to them I'm addressing the third - what's the =
equivalent wattage of their PSU and would they have any interest in =
making one with a PSU that made PARIS happy?

For that matter, I wonder if they're just standard PC PSUs, =
meaning they could be swapped out for what you like.



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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C8C70A.CD92A7C0--FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
a p4pe.
Both are intel chipsets.
I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
*should* do the trick.
(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.

http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html

Good Luck.

Kim




"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my Paris
>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start up.
>I get
>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>At address: 003897c1"
>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and a
>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
would
>be greatly appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>Warren...Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
better.
(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
Playback would stop).
Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
>a p4pe.
>Both are intel chipsets.
>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>*should* do the trick.
>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>
>Good Luck.
>
>Kim
>
>
>
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
Paris
>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
up.
>>I get
>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>At address: 003897c1"
>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
a
>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
>would
>>be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Warren
>I sure would like to see a broader range of pots available; the push-pull
thing is great but I'd really want the electronics to turn off when you pull
it up rather than push it down, for the simple reason that I've never seen a
pot get accidentally pulled up in the middle of a gig.

- Kerry

On 6/5/08 12:20 AM, in article 48479623@linux, "Jamie K"
<JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:

>
> Brilliant!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> StewMac will probably have what you need. Figure out the ohm rating (usually
>> printed on the back of the pot) and taper (usually audio taper) of whatever
>> pot you want to replace. Order the same ratings (or if you like smoother
>> audio moves, try a linear taper pot) in a push/pull. Install. Smile.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:48472764$1@linux...
>>> That's an interesting idea. I like it.
>>>
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>> yup. Also, you could replace one of the pots with a push/pull pot, and
>>>> switch it on the guitar w/o having to drill or cut anything.
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:48470995$1@linux...
>>>>> The guitar makes use of the "ring" terminal shorting to the sleeve of
>>>>> the 1/4" jack to connect the "-" side of the battery when you put a TS
>>>>> plug in. If you use a TRS (balanced) 1/4" plug in the guitar you could,
>>>>> in theory, connect the ring and sleeve at some point farther down the
>>>>> cable to energize the circuit in the guitar.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L wrote:
>>>>>> I have a couple guitars with active electronics (a strat w/ EMGs and a
>>>>>> Buscarino Starlight nylon electric). I hate having to unplug them every
>>>>>> time I put them down, especially the Buscarino because I don't usually
>>>>>> use a vol pedal with it. Are there any tricks to cut the battery draw
>>>>>> while leaving the plug in? I would think that if no circuit is
>>>>>> completed it might stop the draw.
>>Hi,
I have a P4B asus motherboard running 5 eds cards.
So running 5 cards it is a no brainer with my config.
I would love to try the sixt
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log are
>amongst the items on my (unfortunately rather long) to-do list.
>
>Asking him about where WAVEBOY is at nowadays is *definitely* on my list.
>
> http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=WaveB oy
>
> http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=BillM auchly
>
>
>On 6/5/08 11:42 AM, in article 4848338f$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
><musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0QQi
>> temZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
>> Let us know.
>> regards,
>> Dimitrios
>Heya Chuck - d'oh! I'm relieved you spotted it! Log in to the Wiki and edit
at will, that's the whole philosophy behind a Wiki format - the user
community has the ability to spot incorrect or incomplete information and
fix it on the spot. If you prefer, you can email me corrections and I'll fix
it.

- Kerry

On 6/6/08 7:32 AM, in article 48494a63$1@linux, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi Kerry,
>
> I'm not sure about where the info about bill re evolimit and guis and mike
> arnao came from, but it's not really accurate. Neither is the stuff about
> the waveboy plugins. It's not that big a deal, but Bill might get peeved
> at me as there were a whole raft of plugins that I was supposed to finish,
> start selling commercially and give him a cut.
>
>
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> Hi Dimitrios.
>>
>> These were the brainchild of Bill Mauchly, who I understand was also
>> involved in PARIS (I believe he wrote the PARIS mixer code). I have Bill's
>> current email address; inviting him to come over to the Wiki to add
>> to/correct his entry and maybe doing an interview with him on the blog are
>> amongst the items on my (unfortunately rather long) to-do list.
>>
>> Asking him about where WAVEBOY is at nowadays is *definitely* on my list.
>>
>> http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=WaveB oy
>>
>> http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=BillM auchly
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/08 11:42 AM, in article 4848338f$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
>> <musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0Q
>>> Qi
>>>
temZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewIte >>>
m
>>>
>>> These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
>>> Let us know.
>>> regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>
>Can you do it live?

TCB wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> We're putting some of the final tracking touches on the new Monkie CD so
> we're down to the very end of the punch list. One of the songs we have is
> called 'Hobo Rocket' and it might just be the signature tune of the CD. It's
> about a bunch of hobos who build a rocket,
>
> Shining hobo rocket
> Dance across the sky
> Heading for Uranus
> Heard it's made of pecan pie
>
> and we wanted to get a 'rocket taking off' sound without using a sample.
> So, about half an hour of scraping my Les Paul on the side of my Savage amp
> and a super resonant low pass filter and we're done with it.
>
> Now THAT is what I find fun about recording.
>
> TCBI feel like a kid going to my first concert! Cannot wait to see tonight's
show.

I'll post with some comments in the next couple of days.

Have a great weekend!

Marknot without the filter, and i don't think it's worth it to bother carrying
one for a single song.

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Can you do it live?
>
>TCB wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> We're putting some of the final tracking touches on the new Monkie CD
so
>> we're down to the very end of the punch list. One of the songs we have
is
>> called 'Hobo Rocket' and it might just be the signature tune of the CD.
It's
>> about a bunch of hobos who build a rocket,
>>
>> Shining hobo rocket
>> Dance across the sky
>> Heading for Uranus
>> Heard it's made of pecan pie
>>
>> and we wanted to get a 'rocket taking off' sound without using a sample
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>>be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Warren
>another day, another fresh install, change of PCI position for the scsi card,
hyperthreading disabled and still no luck getting Paris to run .. same "unhandled
exception" error.
I'm running out of ideas fast .. I really don't want to ditch my scsi drives
as I have 4 or 5 drives which I use for backup and remember doing comparisons
with ide when I first got scsi drives and felt they performed significantly
better (maybe in my head) Do I just stick with my working dinosaur PIII?
the whole thing is driving me nuts and I've never had major issues with Paris
before in 7 years of using it .. so much for my cheap and easy upgrade.
Any further wisdom or light bulbs would sure improve my weekend.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Warren.
>Still usind a pair of old dual output NVS280 Quadro's.
>They are only 64mb, but are perfectly adequate for anything
>but modern gaming.
>Others here are using newer cards with no problem, but I
>don't recall the model numbers.
>Kim
>
>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks a bunch for that. which Invidia card did/do you use?
>>re: the scsi, I guess I'm just old fashioned and the scsi card and drives
>>didn't cost me anything and having 10, 15k drives makes me feel hi-tech!
>>5 year old drives running on a 8 year ols system ..real hi-tech!!!
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>..Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
>>>better.
>>>(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
>>>issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
>>>Playback would stop).
>>>Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
>>>Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
>>>7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
>>>for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to
that,
>>>>a p4pe.
>>>>Both are intel chipsets.
>>>>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>>>>*should* do the trick.
>>>>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>>>>
>>>>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>>>
>>>>Good Luck.
>>>>
>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade
my
>>>Paris
>>>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>>>up.
>>>>>I get
>>>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
>>sharing
>>>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>>>a
>>>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run ..
>it
>>>>would
>>>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Warren
>>>>
>>>
>>
>how many cards are installed totally? also sometimes when you think
they're seated properly they're not.

On 8 Jun 2008 06:15:12 +1000, "David Feldman" <dfeldmania@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Hi there,
>I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for troubleshooting
>an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card into
>my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay and I can't
>seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am missing here.
> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing these things
>into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks,
>DavidDoes somebody want to post some presets for Mike`s effects?Hi Warren,

I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
tried these things.

Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding the
line:

DisableDirectX=1

Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.

make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST plugins
in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:

VSTDirectory=C:\vst\

Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when starting
PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.

You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.

Good luck!

MikeMike,

Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing fresh
installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris ones
so, unlikely?
I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've run
out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I see
that making any difference.

Thanks again,
Warren
"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>
>Hi Warren,
>
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IS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>
>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi guys,
Thanks for trying to help. Here is some more information that I should have
included earlier. I am running Paris 3.0 on Windows ME with three EDS cards
installed. My MEC is connected to the first EDS card and that's it. When
I run Paris, only 16 ins and outs show up in the modules section of the patch
bay. What do you think?
-David

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>David,
>In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
>the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
>new 8 in/outs are installed in?
>
>More info will help.
>Tom
>
>
>
> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>news:484b6746@linux...
> David,
>
> What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more than=20
> one, what is connected to each?
>
> Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.
>
> Jeff
>
> David Feldman wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
>troubleshooting
> > an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card
=
>into
> > my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay =
>and I can't
> > seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
>missing here.
> > I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing =
>these things
> > into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be
=
>appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > Davi
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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>
>If you don't have the Sarahtonin "Wayward" CD, here's an opportunity to buy
one and do some good for someone besides me.

Guitarist/songwriter Duane Jarvis (some of you Portland folks may know) was
something of a local star in the thriving Portland original music scene of
the '80s. He subsequently moved to Nashville and worked with some famous
people, like John Prine, Lucinda Williams, Frank Black, Dwight Yoakum, and
others, even a stint with the Divinyls.

Anyway, Duane's been diagnosed with cancer, so some of his friends have
organized a benefit concert here in Portland at the Wonder Ballroom (nice
place) this thursday. They're calling it HOME (help offset medical
expenses) for Duane Jarvis, because it's kind of a homecoming/reunion show.
Here's the 'ficial website http://homeforduanejarvis.com/

Duane's MySpace page is http://www.myspace.com/DuaneJarvis

I'm getting a $30 ticket, but I can't really make it to the concert/party
due to work. I have, however, put an announcement on the "Wayward" page of
our website that any CD sales between now and labor day will be donated to
Duane's medical fund. www.sarahton
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port.
Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list once
you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it is,
move the EDS to another PCI slot.
Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting
the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT. Pay
close attention to this.

G'luck, report back.
AA



> Thanks again,
> Warren
> "Mike Audet" <

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>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
Pay
>close attention to this.
>
>G'luck, report back.
>AA
>
>
>
>> Thanks again,
>> Warren
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Warren,
>>>
>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>>>tried these things.
>>>
>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>> the
>>>line:
>>>
>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>
>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>>>
>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no VST
>> plugins
>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>
>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>
>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>
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llorentzen.com" target="_blank">bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> You can never go wrong with UAD. They rule.
>>
>> LaMont wrote:
>>> Anybody see these..http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=7306
>>>
>>> Everytime, I think about getting into the UAD(s) , waves or some other
> cool
>>> Native plugin maker changes my mind.
>>>
>>> Keep em comin..
>The government will order 50,000.
But only after 3 bids and 6-9 months of red tape.

AA

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@onlythebest.com> wrote in message
news:4853bc29$1@linux...
>
> Well...it DOES say "Ultra Premium" I just ordered 5 of them.
> 8^P
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>only $499 !
>>
>>http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp
>What kind of world do we live in..for God's sake??

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>only $499 !
>
>http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.aspOnly the TDM version. Which is probably why they stop TDM support? :)



"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Ever seen a cracked UAD plug?
>
>AA
>
>"Lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:48533bc4$1@linux...
>>
>> Yes, but do they really need the "dongle" pci/pcie card??
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>You can never go wrong with UAD. They rule.
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>> Anybody see these..http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=7306
>>>>
>>>> Everytime, I think about getting into the UAD(s) , waves or some other
>> cool
>>>> Native plugin maker changes my mind.
>>>>
>>>> Keep em comin..
>>
>
>I was orginaly turned on by the DSP card concept, but when I heard of compat
problems, problems with multi-cards and the like...It just turned me off
of the DSP _Dongle concept.

Plus, the card is is still the same (Power)as the orginal. Users have been
asking to run plugins, but UAD just keep making more plugins (Which is cool)
...

But, as PICe slots are srinking, more DSP power is needed..For sure..
Lastly, with Quad, 8 & 16 core processors, a dongle based Plugin format becomes
mute.
I think both Digidesign and UAD will have to "honestly" address this problem(if
having 8, 16 cores processor) is a problem..


Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>The card saves your CPU from the hit which allows them to make the
>baddest plugs around. When I bought my UAD1 and couldn't hear the
>difference between my 1176LN and their plug I was convinced.
>
>Not to say other plugs don't rock, but from what I've heard so far UAD
>rock just a little harder.
>
>Lamont wrote:
>> Yes, but do they really need the "dongle" pci/pcie card??
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> You can never go wrong with UAD. They rule.
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>> Anybody see these..http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=7306
>>>>
>>>> Everytime, I think about getting into the UAD(s) , waves or some other
>> cool
>>>> Native plugin maker chang
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