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>=3D3D<BR>>about=3D20
> some=3D3D20<BR>> of the early 166<BR>boxes =3D
>was not from=3D20
> DBX, but was a technician =3D3D<BR>>that =3D
>I=3D3D20<BR>> trusted=3D20
> and he should<BR>have known. I could be wrong about=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>this.<BR>You=3D3D20<BR>> should be =3D
>in a good=3D20
> position to listen to the two units side =3D
>by=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> side.<BR>This is really the best way anyway, particularly =
since=3D20
> many<BR>=3D3D<BR>>of the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>older<BR>units are=3D20
> way overdue for a=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>rebuild/recalibration.<BR>Looking=3D3D20<BR> > &nbs=3D
>p; =3D20
> inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not=3D20
> always=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>labeled.<BR><BR><BR>The=3D20
> attached image looks generally like most=3D20
> of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> early=3D20
> =3D
>VCAs.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HT=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cool,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>well not exactly...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"cujo" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:436cd9cf$1@linux">news:436cd9cf$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
Boylston=20
Street, across from Fenway and WBCN.<BR>Here is his site<BR><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://notoasters.net/">http://notoasters.net/</A><BR><BR>I =
was refered=20
to him by Sonic Circus.<BR>He is working on some sort of new Mic Pre, =
I=20
haven't heard it though.<BR><BR>If you contact him, tell him Chris =
with the=20
Langvins sent you.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Cujo,<BR>>Not familiar with =
him. Where=20
is New Alliance?<BR>>Tom<BR>> "cujo" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com">chris@nospamapplemanstudio=
..com</A>>=20
wrote in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:436cc85e$1@linux...<BR>><BR>><BR>> How =
do I know=20
how old one is. I thin mine is about 15 years or more.<BR>> =
Tom, do=20
you know a repair guy named Bo Dixon here in Boston? He=20
works<BR>=3D<BR>>out<BR>> of the basemant at New Alliance. =
He has=20
done a few small things for me<BR>=3D<BR>>that<BR>> all =
work well. I=20
have also heard some mixed reviews =
though.<BR>><BR>><BR>> =20
"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Last =
time I=20
talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was the dude I spoke with, super=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >guy/real helpful. I highly =
recommend him, he=20
was instrumental in =3D<BR>>helping<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> >me=20
rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years =
back.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>> >tcram AT dbxpro DOT com<BR>> =20
><BR>> >AA<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D<BR>> >news:436ba859@linux...<BR>> =
> Thanks=20
for the help Gene and Aaron.<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do=20
sound<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >good.<BR>> =
> =20
>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =3D3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>> > The problem is that my 166 needs =
repair. =20
It's not worth repairing<BR>=3D<BR>>if<BR>> > it =
isn't the=20
model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 =
=3D<BR>>when=20
=3D3D<BR>> >they first<BR>> > came =
out. I=20
had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty =
=3D<BR>>sure=20
=3D3D<BR>> >it was out of the<BR>> > =
first=20
run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what=20
they<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >say. =
Also<BR>> =20
> looking for specialists in this field. I might call =
Eric at=20
Earth<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >Works.<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Thanks for the info,<BR>> =
> =20
Tom<BR>> ><BR>> > "gene =
lennon"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
>news:436b89f4$1@linux...<BR>> =20
><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =20
>Gene,<BR>> > >I have a very early =
166 and=20
a 161VU. Is it possible they<BR>> =
> =20
>use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing=20
=3D<BR>>a=3D3D3D20<BR>> > >google =
search about=20
it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) =3D3D<BR>> =20
>would=3D3D3D20<BR>> > >have any =
records on=20
that? I'd open them up and look<BR>> =
> =20
>but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =
=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > =
>Any tips=20
for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.<BR>> =20
> >Tom<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > I know the 163 and the 166 =
share the=20
same VCA (except as noted) =3D<BR>>and<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>these<BR>> > both have different=20
envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has =
a<BR>=3D<BR>>lot<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >to do<BR>> > =
with the=20
overall sound.<BR>> > I should point out =
that=20
the person who told me about some of =
the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>early 166<BR>> > boxes was not from =
DBX, but=20
was a technician that I trusted and =3D<BR>>he =3D3D<BR>> =20
>should<BR>> > have known. I could be =
wrong=20
about this.<BR>> > You should be in a =
good=20
position to listen to the two units =
side<BR>=3D<BR>>by<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >side.<BR>> > =
This is=20
really the best way anyway, particularly since many of =3D<BR>>the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >older<BR>> > =
units are way=20
overdue for a rebuild/recalibration.<BR>> =
> =20
Looking inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not=20
=3D<BR>>always<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>labeled.<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> > The =
attached=20
image looks generally like most of the early VCAs.<BR>> =20
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><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom =
=3D<BR>>Cram=20
was<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the dude =
I=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>spoke with, super guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >instrumental=3D3D20<BR>> =
>in helping=20
me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years=20
=3D<BR>>back.=3D3D20<BR>> =
></FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2><A =3D3D<BR>> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:tcram@dbxpro.com">tcram'>mailto:tcram@dbxpro.com">tcram=
</A> AT=20
dbxpro=3D3D20<BR>> >DOT=20
com</A></FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>AA</FONT></DIV& gt; <BR>> =
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
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>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
<A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:436ba859@linux">news:436ba859@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:436ba8=
59@linux">news:436ba859@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for the=20
help Gene and =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>Aaron.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV>>Some of the old =
166=20
compressors with the original DBX VCA =
do<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>sound=3D3D20<BR>> > good.<BR>>Closer to =
a 160VU=20
than any other DBX. </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>The problem is that my 166 =3D<BR>>needs =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
><BR>> > repair. It's not worth repairing=20
if</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>it isn't the model Gene=20
refers<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >to. I =
bought=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> the 166 for $1,000 when they=20
first</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>came out. I had to wait for=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >delivery to =
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
store. I'm pretty sure it was out of=20
the</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>first run. I am running the=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >serial number=3D3D20<BR>> =
> by=20
DBX to see what they say. Also</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>looking for=20
specialists in =3D<BR>>this =3D3D<BR>> >field. =
I=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> might call Eric at Earth=20
Works.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for the=20
=3D<BR>>info,</FONT></DIV> <BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> > =20
<DIV> </DIV><BR>> > =20
<BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> > =
style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"gene lennon" =
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A'>m=
ailto:glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com">glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com</A</A>=3D=
<BR>>>&g=3D3D<BR>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> > wrote in message=20
<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:436b89f4$1@linux">news:436b89f4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR'>new=
s:436b89f4$1@linux">news:436b89f4$1@linux</A>...</DIV><=
BR</A>>"=3D<BR>>Tom=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D20<BR>> > Bruhl" <<A=20
=3D3D<BR>> >href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20'>mail=
to:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><B=
R>> =20
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Gene,<BR>>I =
have a=20
very early 166 =3D3D<BR>> >and a=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> 161VU. Is it possible they<BR>>use the =
same=20
vca?!?! I =3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =
> couldn't=20
find anything out doing a=3D3D3D20<BR>>google search=20
about<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >it. I=3D3D20<BR>> =
> wonder if the new DBX (Harmon)=20
would=3D3D3D20<BR>>have any records<BR>=3D<BR>>on =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
><BR>> > that? I'd open them up and=20
look<BR>>but I'm not sure which=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> component is the VCA.=20
=3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> ;Any tips for me to=20
=3D<BR>>learn=3D3D20<BR>> > more? =
I'll look=20
inside for clues.<BR>>Tom<BR>> ;<BR>I know=20
=3D3D<BR>> >the 163=3D3D20<BR>> =
> and=20
the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and =
=3D<BR>>these<BR>both=20
=3D3D<BR>> >have=3D3D20<BR>> =
> different=20
envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot to =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>do<BR>with the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
overall=20
sound.<BR>I should point out that the person who told=20
me<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >about =
some=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> of the early 166<BR>boxes was not from =
DBX, but=20
was a technician<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >that =
I=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> trusted and he should<BR>have known. I =
could be=20
wrong about =3D3D<BR>> =
>this.<BR>You=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> should be in a good position to listen to the =
two units=20
side =3D<BR>>by=3D3D20<BR>> > =
side.<BR>This=20
is really the best way anyway, particularly since =
=3D<BR>>many<BR>> =20
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