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| Re: Debunking audiophile voodoo [message #73899 is a reply to message #73892] |
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they could sell off all their inventory
>of
>>Paris hardware.
>>
>>I find it kind of funny that Malcolm Toft joined Ted Fletchers company
after
>>that and EMU OEMed their mic pres for the new EMU hardware. I want to
think
>>I made that connection.
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>>If you really want this product, you can make it happen by calling manufactures
>>and telling them what you want, just pick wisely! If you get enough people
>>to call over time things will happen. The price is another story.
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>>Many years ago, I told the drum hardware designer at Alesis, that I wanted
>>a drum module with dry drum sounds so I could effect them the way I wanted
>>in the studio. I also told them that I wanted a built in effect processor
>>for live use and studio work. I also wanted more triggers, more outputs,
>>headphone output with volume knob, and a audio in put so I could practice
>>to music. To my surprise, they built it in the DM PRO drum module.
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>>I made many suggestions to Greg Mackie that became products. Only problem
>>was, the ideas were bastardize, sliced and diced in to multiple products
>>and they charged three to four times more than I suggested for each product.
>> These companies want to slice and dice every thing and make big bucks.
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>>If you want it all it's an expensive add on. I've talked to many of them
>>as a dealer, they think they can make more money selling little recording
>>boxes to bedroom guitar players or DJs. They think and their marketing
>data
>>shows that they can make more money selling the little boxes than big DAWs.
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>>The attitude is, if you want to play in the big time, you'll go with PT,
>>SX, or Nuendo with third party hardware. Nobody really wants to go up
against
>>PT because it's already established in the market.
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>>The other issue is hardware becoming obsolete too quickly. Building DSPs
>>in to a system is a bit of a risk. They think native systems are good
enough,
>>and that is what most people want, and if they need more, like systems
with
>>DSPs, that PT already fills that Pro end of the market.
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>>However if enough people talk to these companies, something will happen.
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>>That's my 0.02
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>>James
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>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@.com> wrote:
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>>>Been researching this one a bit...
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>>>http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=7618
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>>>Seems pretty good, has onboard DSP, taking a load off your
>>>CPU... has a nice monitoring interface - simpler than TotalMix,
>>>coupla mic inputs & DI's, as well, BUT... only has 4 balanced
>>>analog i/o's... so you gotta buy 4 of 'em to do 16 channels
>>>pure. ALSO... no BNC/word clock... WTF? Trying to get
>>>prorietary on us with a unit like THIS!!!??? We have to ONLY
>>>use these together with each other? Can't sync anything-digital-
>>>else???
>>>
>>>Handy, nice for "semiprosumer" applications, but another
>>>opportunity to really go after the pro market wasted, IMO -
>>>they have the technology, they have the tinker toy set, they
>>>just didn't "go pro" with it... Paris didn't either at the
>>>time, and neither did Emu with their 1812/1212, etc - although
>>>the onboard DSP & good convertors plus a few other features
>>>coulda got them there. Is everyone afraid of alsihad? Is that
>>>it? Is that why all things like this come out as small-time
>>>entrants targeted at price points in the home recording level
>>>only?
>>>
>>>As the subject line says: Close, but no cigar.
>>>
>>>Here's the thing... Yeah there are other options like MADI
>>>units that can get you 1,569,878,760,000 channels of i/o, but
>>>who needs that much, and then you also need a half dozen
>>>lightpipe interfaces, and stringing all that shit together &
>>>making it hum is mickey-mouse, too, IMO.
>>>
>>>Someone needs to developthe following:
>>>
>>>***A superb convertor box with 16 channels in & out, throw in a
>>>couple of d.i./mic pres & lightpipe/SPDIF ports if you want,
>>>but really what the world needs is more single-box 16 channel
>>>interfaces.. with 16 channels of pure analog i/o. Don't be
>>>afraid of going a full rack space long & 2 rack spaces deep,
>>>fer pete's sakes! Not everything has to be a single-space
>>>and/or a half-racker!
>>>*** It should have on-board DSP effects - like the TC unit or
>>>the new/soon to be discontinued EMU stuff, for example.
>>>price as sucky ones - yes, you can.
>>>*** It should have an ASIO driver that can allow for up to 16
>>>channels/submixes of passive analog summing (or if not that, at
>>>least DSP summing through something other than the PC's CPU)
>>>your box & return to 2 new channels in the DAW app - if you can
>>>do onboard DSP EFX, you can do onboard summing, too, yes sir
>>>you KNOW you can!
>>>***Throw in a copy of CubaseLE if you wanna... no need for a
>>>complete/full-out app like SX or Nuendo - people can indeed buy
>>>that separately if they want.
>>>*** MIDI i/o... duh.
>>>***Absolutely make it expandable to be able to easily link 2
>>>or mo
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| Re: Debunking audiophile voodoo [message #73941 is a reply to message #73910] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 17:50 |
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