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| Classic Rock [message #87463] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 11:08  |
TCB
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gt;>>>
>>>>Mackie HR824 $1200pr
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>>>>I picked these monitors from the Sweetwater catalog. My concerns:
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>>>>JBL: My experience with main PA JBL's is an overbrightness/bite to the
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>>>>horns. This may not apply to studio monitors. It does have a
>>>>calibration
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>>>>mic to set the speakers to the room vice tweaking the room.
>>>>
>>>>Adam: Recommended by Brad. I can't get on to their website.
>>>>www.adam-audio.com Site doesn't load.
>>>>
>>>>DynAudio: Unknown.
>>>>
>>>>Event: Had a friends studio using low end Event monitors and were
>>>>blown
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>>>>quite easily. Also the sound was muddy on bottom and thin on top.
>>>>
>>>>Focal: Recommended by Dave. I don't anything about this company. I
>> can
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>>>>not find any data.
>>>>
>>>>Mackie: Not my 1st choice but if someone has positive/negative
>>>>feedback,
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>>>>I'd appreciate it. From what I've recent
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87491 is a reply to message #87463] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 17:21  |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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>>>> >
>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>> > >>thanks
>>>> > >>jp
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >botique
>>>> > plugins,
>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>stellar.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>>Plate =3D
>>>> >verb
>>>> > adn
>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool,
and
>>>=
>>>>is
>>>> =3D
>>>> >the
>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>>=
>>>>new
>>>> =3D
>>>> >standards
>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >holding
>>>> > it's
>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer =3D
>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and
>>>> =3D
>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
>=
>>>>with =3D
>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87492 is a reply to message #87491] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 17:31 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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;> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front
of
>>>=
>>>>the =3D
>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>=
>>>>a =3D
>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>/A>=3D
>>>> >>=3D20
>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>ick=3D
>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>> > =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>those=3D20
>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>> >room=3D20
>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >
>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>> >more=3D20
>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>> >are=3D20
>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>> >=3D20
>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>> >years=3D20
>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>> > them..<BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87502 is a reply to message #87491] |
Mon, 02 July 2007 19:51 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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; =20
>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>that=20
>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>The Plate=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>Delays are=20
>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>Waves new=20
>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>still=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>with the=20
>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>choose=20
>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>>>>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
>>>> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
>>>> =
>>>>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>>>>D><BR>><BODY=20
>>>> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a richer =
>>>>=3D<BR>>reverb.=20
>>>> =3D20<BR>>Just run both =
>>>>a</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux busses=20
>>>> =
>>>>and<BR>=3D<BR>>mix=3D20<BR>>them</FONT></DIV><BR >>&l=
>>>>t;DIV><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud with=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>either and=3D20<BR>>it will be=20
>>>> sweet.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front of the =3D<BR>>plate to=20
>>>> notch=3D20<BR>>out some=20
>>>> mids</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves a =3D<BR>>whole=20
>>>> for=3D20<BR>>the vocal or sometimes=20
>>>> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>>>>
>>>> face=3D3DArial =
>>>>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV>=20
>>>> =
>>>></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>>>>0px;=20
>>>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>>>>2px solid;=20
>>>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"dale"=20
>>>> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A'=
>>>>>mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A</=
>>>>A>>=3D<BR>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Rick=
>>>>'>news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
>>>>;<BR>Rick</A>=3D<BR>>,=20
>>>> can=3D20<BR>> you elaborate on how to do=20
>>>> this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20'>ma=
>>>>ilto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20</=
>>>>A><BR>> =20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of=20
>>>> those=3D20<BR>> =
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87509 is a reply to message #87492] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 20:28 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dale,
>>>>Paris Plate is mono in so post pan won't matter nor
>>>>will it hurt. Paris Room is stereo in so that might help
>>>>to maintain post pan settings. The key is to 'blend' the
>>>>two to help sculpt the ambience around your source.
>>>>Use the best qualities of each. I like the plates longer
>>>>decays much of the time but very softly. The room can
>>>>get dense and flutter too much if you're not careful.
>>>>Just play with small amounts and mix them to enhance
>>>>your source be it guitar, vocal, drums or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>It's always a crap shoot.
>>>>Crap,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =
>>>>news:46945223$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tom
>>>>
>>>> Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Dale,
>>>> >I like to do that too for a richer reverb. Just run both a
>>>> >room and a plate in two aux busses and mix them
>>>> >together. Don't get too loud with either and it will be sweet.
>>>> >I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out some mids
>>>> >more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal or =
>>>>sometimes=3D20
>>>> >snare.
>>>> >Tom
>>>> >
>>>> > "dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>> >news:4693eb6a$1@linux...
>>>> >
>>>> > Rick, can you elaborate on how to do this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of those available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <jpj@jpjones.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>LaMont--
>>>> > >>i agree--
>>>> > >>though i have received some criticism about the room reverb--
>>>> > >>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or revised
>>>> > >>FX for the room rev.--
>>>> > >>any suggestions?
>>>> > >>thanks
>>>> > >>jp
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>As I've and other have been making our way thru the new analog
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >botique
>>>> > plugins,
>>>> > >>>I'm even more resolved in stating that Paris FX are were =
>>>>stellar.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. The =
>>>>Plate =3D
>>>> >verb
>>>> > adn
>>>> > >>>Chorus, Delays are right up with the best. The Gate is cool,
and
>>>=
>>>>is
>>>> =3D
>>>> >the
>>>> > >>Comp..
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the
>>>=
>>>>new
>>>> =3D
>>>> >standards
>>>> > >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are still
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >holding
>>>> > it's
>>>> > >>>own with the best of them..
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> ><HTML><HEAD>
>>>> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>>>> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87510 is a reply to message #87502] |
Tue, 03 July 2007 20:32 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
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; ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>> ><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>> ></HEAD>
>>>> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dale,</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer =3D
>>>> >reverb. =3D20
>>>> >Just run both a</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and
>>>> =3D
>>>> >mix=3D20
>>>> >them</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>together. Don't get too loud
>=
>>>>with =3D
>>>> >either and=3D20
>>>> >it will be sweet.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also use a FreakQ in front
of
>>>=
>>>>the =3D
>>>> >plate to notch=3D20
>>>> >out some mids</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>more often than not. It carves
>>>=
>>>>a =3D
>>>> >whole for=3D20
>>>> >the vocal or sometimes </FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snare.</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>> ><DIV> </DIV>
>>>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> > <DIV>"dale" <<A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com<=
>>>>/A>=3D
>>>> >>=3D20
>>>> > wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:4693eb6a$1@linux">news:4693eb6a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>R=
>>>>ick=3D
>>>> >, can=3D20
>>>> > you elaborate on how to do this?<BR><BR><BR>rick <<A=3D20
>>>> > =
>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>run a room and plate parallel...or any combo of =
>>>>those=3D20
>>>> > available.<BR>><BR>><BR>>On 10 Jul 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" =3D
>>>> ><<A=3D20
>>>> > href=3D3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>LaMont--<BR>>>i=3D20
>>>> > agree--<BR>>>though i have received some criticism about the =3D
>>>> >room=3D20
>>>> > reverb--<BR>>>i'm an ancient user and don't have any plug-ins or
>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >
>>>> > revised<BR>>>FX for the room rev.--<BR>>>any=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >suggestions?<BR>>>thanks<BR>>>jp<BR>>><BR>>>"LaMO=3D
>>>> >nt"=3D20
>>>> > <<A =3D
>>>> >href=3D3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=3D20
>>>> > wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>As I've and other have been =3D
>>>> >making our=3D20
>>>> > way thru the new analog botique<BR>plugins,<BR>>>>I'm even =3D
>>>> >more=3D20
>>>> > resolved in stating that Paris FX are were=3D20
>>>> > stellar.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very =3D
>>>> >good for=3D20
>>>> > most applications. The Plate verb<BR>adn<BR>>>>Chorus, Delays =3D
>>>> >are=3D20
>>>> > right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and is=3D20
>>>> > =3D
>>>> >the<BR>>>Comp..<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>With=3D
>>>> >=3D20
>>>> > UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, Waves new vintage plugs setting the new=3D20
>>>> > standards<BR>>>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 =3D
>>>> >years=3D20
>>>> > are still holding<BR>it's<BR>>>>own with the best of=3D20
>>>> > them..<BR>><BR&
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87515 is a reply to message #87510] |
Mon, 02 July 2007 23:13 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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"_blank">1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>>>>ks=20
>>>> Tom<BR><BR>Should the Auxes be set on "POST PAN" or something=20
>>>> else?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Dale<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dale,<BR>>I like to do that too for a =
>>>>richer=20
>>>> reverb. Just run both a<BR>>room and a plate in two aux =
>>>>busses and=20
>>>> mix them<BR>>together. Don't get too loud with either and it =
>>>>will be=20
>>>> sweet.<BR>>I also use a FreakQ in front of the plate to notch out =
>>>>some=20
>>>> mids<BR>>more often than not. It carves a whole for the vocal =
>>>>or=20
>>>> sometimes=3D20<BR>>snare.<BR>>Tom<BR>><BR>> "dale" =
>>>><<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"mailto:dalebradleycello@yahoo.com">dalebradleycello@yahoo.com</A>=
>>>>>=20
>>>> wrote in message =
>>>>=3D<BR>>news:4693eb6a$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Rick,=20
>>>> can you elaborate on how to do this?<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>>>>rick <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >run a room and plate parallel...or any combo =
>>>>of those=20
>>>> available.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >On =
>>>>10 Jul=20
>>>> 2007 17:01:58 +1000, "jp" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jpj@jpjones.net">jpj@jpjones.net</A>> =
>>>>wrote:<BR>> =20
>>>> ><BR>> >><BR>> =
>>>>>>LaMont--<BR>> =20
>>>> >>i agree--<BR>> >>though i have received some =
>>>>criticism=20
>>>> about the room reverb--<BR>> >>i'm an ancient user and =
>>>>don't=20
>>>> have any plug-ins or revised<BR>> >>FX for the room=20
>>>> rev.--<BR>> >>any suggestions?<BR>> =20
>>>> >>thanks<BR>> >>jp<BR>> =
>>>>>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>"LaMOnt" <<A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>>=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>As I've =
>>>>and other=20
>>>> have been making our way thru the new analog =
>>>>=3D<BR>>botique<BR>> =20
>>>> plugins,<BR>> >>>I'm even more resolved in stating =
>>>>that=20
>>>> Paris FX are were stellar.<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>>Paris's Eq (4 band) is very good for most applications. =
>>>>The Plate=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>verb<BR>> adn<BR>> >>>Chorus, =
>>>>Delays are=20
>>>> right up with the best. The Gate is cool, and =
>>>>is<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =20
>>>> >>Comp..<BR>> >>><BR>> =20
>>>> >>><BR>> >>>With UAD's, USZR, Sonalkis, =
>>>>Waves new=20
>>>> vintage plugs setting the new<BR>=3D<BR>>standards<BR>> =20
>>>> >>>in plugins modeling, Paris's plugins after 10 years are =
>>>>still=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>holding<BR>> it's<BR>> >>>own =
>>>>with the=20
>>>> best of them..<BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I =
>>>>choose=20
>>>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
>>>> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>>>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
>>>> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
>>>> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
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>I'm not too sure...the cowbell's a little weak
;-p
Jeff
LaMont wrote:
> Hello all, http://www.xlnaudio.com/
>
> Reporting on yet another very cool VSTi called Addictive Drums.. Basically,
> a very realistic Acoustic drum Module that has one of the best interfaces
> around. Very easy , intuitive.
>
> The sound(s) quality is first class and the entire lib is only 2gig!! I think
> they are using a compressed file format..Sounds Great!! The included midi
> beats are cool..
>
> Very nice first product.. Upgrades are coming..The EDS is 5volt Keyed ONLY - you can tell by the pin profile.
On closer inspection, you couldn't even fit a 5volt card i
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87529 is a reply to message #87510] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 07:31 |
Rod Lincoln
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track and the
Master output.How did you keep that alive with those dogs of yours wandering through?
One tail wag and half your channels are out.
DJ wrote:
DJ wrote:
> These were taken during the height of the Paris/Cubase double DAW frenzy
> when I was using 4 x Magmas with two DAWs. It was a wonderful sounding, but
> frustrating rig. Wayyyyy more variables than I've got now. I was interfacing
> over 100 digital I/O.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:469ca498$1@linux...
>> wire rats hahahaha
>>
>> could this be Dj's car ;-) kidding DJ
>>
>> http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Jammin_with_Bla upunkt/blau-rats-nest.JPG
>>
>
>
> These were taken during the height of the Paris/Cubase double DAW frenzy
> when I was using 4 x Magmas with two DAWs. It was a wonderful sounding, but
> frustrating rig. Wayyyyy more variables than I've got now. I was interfacing
> over 100 digital I/O.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:469ca498$1@linux...
>> wire rats hahahaha
>>
>> could this be Dj's car ;-) kidding DJ
>>
>> http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Jammin_with_Bla upunkt/blau-rats-nest.JPG
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>
>Ahhhh......OK then. It's been a while since I had an EDS card around here. I
didn't remember. Diana???...so we have another female member....or is this
just Rick acting out again?
;o)
"Diana" <Io_Project@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:469da100$1@linux...
>
> The EDS is 5volt Keyed ONLY - you can tell by the pin profile.
> On closer inspection, you couldn't even fit a 5volt card into either a 3.3
> volt OR Universal 32-bit PCI slot.
> I found a great PDF on the subject - just a couple pages. If anyone would
> like me to send a copy, give me your email and I'll send it.
> Hope that helps.
>
>
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>well..you could get some metal shears, cut the back of the box away and
> give
>>it a try. I think the EDS cards work with 3.3 and 5v slots, don't
>>they???...I don't remember.
>>
>>
>>
>>;o)
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:469ac4e8$1@linux...
>>> From the descrip and picture it doesn't look to EDS friendly either.
>>> Drag.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>>> news:469aa365@linux...
>>>> It's a no-go with UAD-1 cards. Bummer.
>>>>
>>>> ;o(
>>>>
>>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:C2BFF5BD.B6EA%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>>> DJ - I think someone posted about this on the Nuendo forum and said
>
>>>>> UAD-1
>>>>> users weren't having much luck with it. Shame - I would order one
>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if you give it a whirl though - I could use a PCIe to PCI
>>>>> chassis that won't break the bank.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/15/07 3:24 PM, in article 469a91e1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _
>>>>> animas _
>>>>> dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://cooldrives.com/1popcto4xpci.html
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>Oh, c'mon... EVERY genre needs cowbell!
:)
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Oh.. the Dreaded rock cowbell..
>
>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>I'm not too sure...the cowbell's a little weak
>>
>>;-p
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>> Hello all, http://www.xlnaudio.com/
>>>
>>> Reporting on yet another very cool VSTi called Addictive Drums.. Basically,
>>> a very realistic Acoustic drum Module that has one of the best interfaces
>>> around. Very easy , intuitive.
>>>
>>> The sound(s) quality is first class and the entire lib is only 2gig!!
>I think
>>> they are using a compressed file format..Sounds Great!! The included
>midi
>>> beats are cool..
>>>
>>> Very nice first product.. Upgrades are coming..
>Hi,
I have DJ's p2B-LS motherboard with mmx 350 PII cpu, vintage right ?
This is for Lexicon core32 and two DSPFX cards and one Pulsar card !!
So now switching in beetween windows there is much latency ...
Memory is 192 mb and OS is Windows Me.
Don't please advice to get a faster computer !!
Just advice if possible what would cure that !!
Thanks
DimitriosHi,
Need this magma cable , any cheap resource ?
Thanks
DimitriosThe newer round one can be purchased from Magma. The flat ones are no longer
being made.
This guy says he can make them if you will sen
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Wed, 04 July 2007 07:51 |
EK Sound
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een popular in the
gamer/dyi world for at least a decade. Figures they wait till now to
offer it to the masses.
This one is allot cooler and at the same time more disturbing. :)
http://usa.asus.com/event/s6pink/index.html
Chris
James McCloskey wrote:
> Fruity colored computers are all the rage now!
>
> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us& cs=19&l=en&oc=DNDQKU1&s=dhs&sm=2
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762So, I have a question....
Do people like this on YouTube have more money to burn than I do, or am I
spending my money in the wrong places -
things like housing, food, kids, wife? ;-) I should look into video taping
running over an iMac with a Hummer H3.
They guy could have just sent the iPhone to me. Postage is cheaper than
video production.
Dedric
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:469dbc60$1@linux...
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=qg1ckCkm8YI
>
>Man.. That cowbell sample has taken on a life of it's own !!!
"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Oh, c'mon... EVERY genre needs cowbell!
>
>:)
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Oh.. the Dreaded rock cowbell..
>>
>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>I'm not too sure...the cowbell's a little weak
>>>
>>>;-p
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>> Hello all, http://www.xlnaudio.com/
>>>>
>>>> Reporting on yet another very cool VSTi called Addictive Drums.. Basically,
>>>> a very realistic Acoustic drum Module that has one of the best interfaces
>>>> around. Very easy , intuitive.
>>>>
>>>> The sound(s) quality is first class and the entire lib is only 2gig!!
>>I think
>>>> they are using a compressed file format..Sounds Great!! The included
>>midi
>>>> beats are cool..
>>>>
>>>> Very nice first product.. Upgrades are coming..
>>
>"John" <no@No.com> wrote:
>
>so what kind of mac laptop can you get for $799 ?
With the ADC discount, you could get a MacBook with 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo,
1GB memory, 80GB HD, and a combo drive for around $879.20. Did I mention
that it will run Mac OSX, UNIX, LINUX, Windows XP, and Windows Vista? It
will also run more software.
To each his own. I'm well aware that companies like Alienware have offered
colored computers for years. Now that Dell has jumped on the band wagon,
I would hope the fruit colored computer comments will end. I personally
have never owned a fruit colored computer; )
P.S. I'm aware that Dell now owns Alienware.I have a spare flat cable. How long a cable do you need?
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>Need this magma cable , any cheap resource ?
>Thanks
>DimitriosWait!
It gets better!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPhone-and-Blendtec-Total-Blender_ W0QQitemZ170129995323QQihZ007QQcategoryZ64355QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>So, I have a question....
>
>Do people like this on YouTube have more money to burn than I do, or am
I
>spending my money in the wrong places -
>things like housing, food, kids, wife? ;-) I should look into video taping
>running over an iMac with a Hummer H3.
>
>They guy could have just sent the iPhone to me. Postage is cheaper than
>video production.
>
>Dedric
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:469dbc60$1@linux...
>>
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=qg1ckCkm8YI
>>
>>
>Looks like a lot of people have $$ to burn....52 bids?!?!?!?
My favorite part: "Condition: Used"
"Mike Claytor" <claytor@psi.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
>Wait!
>
>It gets better!
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPhone-and-Blendtec-Total-Blender_ W0QQitemZ170129995323QQihZ007QQcategoryZ64355QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>So, I have a question....
>>
>>Do people like this on YouTube have more money to burn than I do, or am
>I
>>spending my money in the wrong places -
>>things like housing, food, kids, wife? ;-) I should look into video taping
>
>>running over an iMac with a Hummer H3.
>>
>>They guy could have just sent the iPhone to me. Postage is cheaper than
>
>>video production.
>>
>>Dedric
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:469dbc60$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=qg1ckCkm8YI
>>>
>>>
>>
>53 idiots! This proves it, some people really are stupid. Some people will
buy anything. Now watch, some guy will buy it, call it art, and some other
idiot will pay millions for it.
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Wed, 04 July 2007 09:22 |
Aaron Allen
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?v=qg1ckCkm8YI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.htmlAll sounds good to me except the metal demo... not even close but prolly
has nuttin to do with the sounds.
WMW
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:469d3060$1@linux...
>
> Hello all, http://www.xlnaudio.com/
>
> Reporting on yet another very cool VSTi called Addictive Drums..
> Basically,
> a very realistic Acoustic drum Module that has one of the best interfaces
> around. Very easy , intuitive.
>
> The sound(s) quality is first class and the entire lib is only 2gig!! I
> think
> they are using a compressed file format..Sounds Great!! The included midi
> beats are cool..
>
> Very nice first product.. Upgrades are coming..Windows ME?!? You sick, sick man. Put 98 (or even XP if you'll pay for a little
RAM) and throttle down all of the eye candy and you should be fine.
TCB
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I have DJ's p2B-LS motherboard with mmx 350 PII cpu, vintage right ?
>This is for Lexicon core32 and two DSPFX cards and one Pulsar card !!
>So now switching in beetween windows there is much latency ...
>Memory is 192 mb and OS is Windows Me.
>Don't please advice to get a faster computer !!
>Just advice if possible what would cure that !!
>Thanks
>DimitriosReally... absolutely deploring to hear him rake coals over the fire on
Beatle songs. Like screwdrivers in my ears! And if you read the feedback,
you have to ask yourself... They should have taken the red pill!
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:469cc2d3@linux...
> almost as bad a Metallica
>
> James McCloskey wrote:
>> http://www.beatallica.org/beatallica.html
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762I would settle for 10Mb/s considering the piracy that is internet access in
the US compared to the rest of the world.
I believe the average in much of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada and others
is 20Mb/s. Here it's a paultry 512k-1M,
and as a business I would have to pay $99/month for that. Fortunately I
have access and a much better deal through a business here
in our building.
40G though.... dang. Sure it's possible (and I'm glad to see someone making
it public), but will AT&T and others make even a fraction of that reality
for the public without charging $2k/month for it? Nope. Maybe in 15 years
after they've milked the 1M-10M market for all it's worth and more.
Dedric
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:469e623e$1@linux...
>
> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I would settle for 10Mb/s considering the piracy that is internet access
in
>the US compared to the rest of the world.
>I believe the average in much of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada and others
>is 20Mb/s. Here it's a paultry 512k-1M,
>and as a business I would have to pay $99/month for that. Fortunately I
>have access and a much better deal through a business here
>in our building.
>
>40G though.... dang. Sure it's possible (and I'm glad to see someone making
>it public), but will AT&T and others make even a fraction of that reality
>for the public without charging $2k/month for it? Nope. Maybe in 15 years
>after they've milked the 1M-10M market for all it's worth and more.
>
>Dedric
Did you see the story on PBS about the city that tried to put in a fiber
network and got sued by the big conglomerates? I think it was Montgomery
AL.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:469e623e$1@linux...
>>
>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070718/D8QF4KV81.html
>I think we all have a need for speed; )
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>I would settle for 10Mb/s considering the piracy that is internet access
>in
>>the US compared to the rest of the world.
>>I believe the average in much of Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada and others
>
>>is 20Mb/s. Here it's a paultry 512k-1M,
>>and as a business I would have to pay $99/month for that. Fortunately
I
>
>>have access and a much better deal through a business here
>>in our building.
>>
>>40G though.... dang. Sure it's possible (and I'm glad to see someone making
>
>>it public), but will AT&T and others make even a fraction of that reality
>
>>for the public without charging $2k/month for it? Nope. Maybe in 15 years
>
>>after they've milked the 1M-10M market for all it's worth and more.
>>
>>De
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Wed, 04 July 2007 09:51 |
DJ
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ink and I am a happy camper right
>now.......sooooo.....since everything is working nicely, the thought
>occurred to me that since I'm interfacing my Houston controller with the
>master DAW via midi.........and since samesaid Houston controller can
>interface with Cubase by it's USB port as well, it may just be my duty to
>interface the slave DAW running Cubase SX3 in order to see what happens.
>
> Best case scenario.......all tracks on both DAWs are recognized in some
> sort of sequence by the Houston controller.
>
> Worst case scenario.....????
>
> ;o)
>I think there is a driver issue with XP IIRC?
98se is more stable, but IME ME was (gag) better at handling mulitmedia.
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:469e7792$1@linux...
>
> Windows ME?!? You sick, sick man. Put 98 (or even XP if you'll pay for a
> little
> RAM) and throttle down all of the eye candy and you should be fine.
>
> TCB
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>I have DJ's p2B-LS motherboard with mmx 350 PII cpu, vintage right ?
>>This is for Lexicon core32 and two DSPFX cards and one Pulsar card !!
>>So now switching in beetween windows there is much latency ...
>>Memory is 192 mb and OS is Windows Me.
>>Don't please advice to get a faster computer !!
>>Just advice if possible what would cure that !!
>>Thanks
>>Dimitrios
>Ghost your image. Then...
I would first check out that ME hasn't automagically changed some IRQ
assignments for you on it's own causing a conflict with video. It does that.
Next, I would get a good nVidia video card and drop into the AGP slot. Be
careful when you install the new card because it might try to install a
newer DirectX version that could hose up your DX effects.
Also, get yourself a Power Leap CPU upgrade. I put one on my Asus P2B-LS
(and before that the P2B-f) mobo and it's a WAY different machine. Hopefully
they still have it, it's a celeron 1.3Ghz on a slot style mini PCB.
www.powerleap.com
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr> wrote in message
news:469e0c5e$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I have DJ's p2B-LS motherboard with mmx 350 PII cpu, vintage right ?
> This is for Lexicon core32 and two DSPFX cards and one Pulsar card !!
> So now switching in beetween windows there is much la
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87542 is a reply to message #87533] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 10:14 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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ry@keyofd.net" target="_blank">dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:469ea106$1@linux...
> Houston controls the same tracks on each DAW at the same time, you create
> a midi loop,
> and *WHAMMMO*...
>
> "...uh...Houston.... we have a problem.."
>
> ;-))
>
Actually, the USB port takes precedence over the midi ports. I had the USB
port interfaced with the slave and the midi ports interfaced with the
master. Even with the Houston disabled on the slave, the midi ports would
not function on the master. That's about as exciting as it got. shux......I
figured I'd at least get to smell some smoke.
;o)That reminds me a thing going around in the '80s where someone had put drug
references to recording terms...like balanced line=the producer and the engineer
got equal portions...line input=nostril and so on...
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I'm unbalanced, but the doc promised me the meds will help.
>
>AA
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>news:469ed57a$1@linux...
>>
>>
>
>Pull up the memory cache (page faults) readings and see what it's using.
IIRC, I have a GB of RAM installed on my P2b. If you need some RAM let me
know, I think I have some 128 modules floating loose around here.
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:469f4ae6$1@linux...
>
> Thanks guys...
> Lexicon core32 and DSPFX cards do NOT work under XP so I used Me instead
> of win98se because I had that !
> It works great anyway.
> I am using a very old vga card that probably has no memory on board
> whatesoever...
> So what about ram ?
> is 192MB sufficient ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Yeah, I think Edmund even posted something about it being tighter on the
>
>>midi timiing all else being equal.
>>These days however, ME is better suited for Mulletmedia presentation.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:469eb207$1@linux...
>>> HI Aaron,
>>>
>>>
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>> I think there is a driver issue with XP IIRC?
>>>> 98se is more stable,
>>> yes for sure
>>>> but IME ME was (gag) better at handling mulitmedia.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gag!! Well as long as you think so...:)
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>That's Mexican line input for you, hombre'
:)
AA
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:469f6f5f$1@linux...
>
> That reminds me a thing going around in the '80s where someone had put
> drug
> references to recording terms...like balanced line=the producer and the
> engineer
> got equal portions...line input=nostril and so on...
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I'm unbalanced, but the doc promised me the meds will help.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>>news:469ed57a$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>HI Aaron,
If you have a compatible Fire wire chipset you "might" be OK. Even on
new Core2Duo based machines the Tascam seems to have trouble running at
lower than 10ms.
I can regularly use 1.5 to 3ms on MOTU and RME fire wire interfaces but
they both use their own proprietary firewire designs. About support let
me put it this way. MOTU has way better support at this point and it
still has allot to be desired
Chris
Aaron Allen wrote:
> Anyone got one of these? I'm looking to mainly dump synth's down through it,
> seems to have all the right drivers. I have heard tascam support really
> blows these days, but I'm more concerned I suppose with not having the
> convertors suck eggs or having the latency so flippin high it's useless.
> Dice II firewire, so I know it's probably going to be running around 10 ms
> to be stable on my chosen (Toshiba tablet) system.. but dumping midi synths,
> this isn't a huge deal to me.
>
> Any input greatly appreciated!
>
> AA
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762HI Dimitrios,
I would use at least a video card that has 32 megs of on board memory. I
would have at least 256 megs of ram for the system but wouldn't bother
with more than 512.
Chris
Dimitrios wrote:
> Thanks guys...
> Lexicon core32 and DSPFX cards do NOT work under XP so I used Me instead
> of win98se because I had that !
> It works great anyway.
> I am using a very old vga card that probably has no memory on board whatesoever...
> So what about ram ?
> is 192MB sufficient ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I think Edmund even posted something about it being tighter on the
>>
>
>
>> midi timiing all else being equal.
>> These days however, ME is better suited for Mulletmedia presentation.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:469eb207$1@linux...
>>
>>> HI Aaron,
>>>
>>>
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think there is a driver issue with XP IIRC?
>>>> 98se is more stable,
>>>>
>>> yes for sure
>>>
>>>> but IME ME was (gag) better at handling mulitmedia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Gag!! Well as long as you think so...:)
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl&#
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87586 is a reply to message #87565] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 22:20 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
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t;David.It seems to be a winner answer in these questions;-)
erlilo
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> skrev i melding
news:46bb557f$1@linux...
>
> Aren't there twodifferent versions? one for 98 and one for XP?
> Rod
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
>>(which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
>>either grayed out or not there at all.
>thanks david, much appreciated.
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:46:12 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>There were two versions of this app... one specifically for XP
>
>Try the attached older verision.
>
>David.
>
>
>
>rick wrote:
>> pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
>> (which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
>> either grayed out or not there at all.Hi ,
I will try to post some pictures.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hey D, do you have a pic?
>
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hmm, it could be like the Stanley Cup trophy or something, that we all
get
>>to have and use for a cetrain periond of time. Hmm, I'll take it for the
>>first 2 weeks of Septemeber.
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes, I think Dimi shoul not only send us one that we can ALL
>>>take for a drive by bicycling it around the country from one of
>>>us to the other for a week or two each, I think he should
>>>include an original -47 in the package so we can compare a-to-b.
>>>
>>>;)
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Anyway I can take one for a drive?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cujo" <chris
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87599 is a reply to message #87586] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 06:50 |
TCB
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s the test may be *more* valid by
offering up files in the final master format.
>
> Also this from the front page:
>
> "we did an experiment to see how closely we could match some mixes done on
> a large-format analog console using Pro Tools and modeled console channel
> strip plug-ins, and have posted the resulting audio files for you to hear"
>
> This means it isn't an A-B summing thing... the PT mixes were altered to
> try and "sound like" the SSL mixes... not a direct comparison of ITB vs
> External Summing.
>
> my $.02
>
> David.
Well, I always have a 2 x track of a master mix done in a similar genre that
I use as a reference when mixing anyway so this would be sorta' the same
thing wouldn't it?............now just picture Chris Lord Alge using a
reference file of a mix done by Roger Nichols and you'll get my drift.
;oDYah, 95% of the public is listening to 3rd or 4th generation rips of
high speed written, block errored to death CD's sourced from MP3's
created quickly with bad sounding codecs...
Bandwidth? what bandwidth? ;-)
David.
DJ wrote:
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46bcd814$1@linux...
>
>>If it wasn't done by Digi... sure. The are several flaws associated with
>>the test, and the mix files are compressed audio so it's difficult to pick
>>out the nuances.
>
>
> Heheh!!!!!.....but what difference does it make really, if everyone is
> listening to compressed audio anyway? Seems the test may be *more* valid by
> offering up files in the final master format.
>
>
>
>>Also this from the front page:
>>
>>"we did an experiment to see how closely we could match some mixes done on
>>a large-format analog console using Pro Tools and modeled console channel
>>strip plug-ins, and have posted the resulting audio files for you to hear"
>>
>>This means it isn't an A-B summing thing... the PT mixes were altered to
>>try and "sound like" the SSL mixes... not a direct comparison of ITB vs
>>External Summing.
>>
>>my $.02
>>
>>David.
>
>
> Well, I always have a 2 x track of a master mix done in a similar genre that
> I use as a reference when mixing anyway so this would be sorta' the same
> thing wouldn't it?............now just picture Chris Lord Alge using a
> reference file of a mix done by Roger Nichols and you'll get my drift.
>
> ;oD
>
>
>And if you are running an HD rig, the Mac route makes sense. (Of course
there is no other option for Logic). I'm curious to see where the next
version of Logic goes.
I've been wondering if Apple would give it more of a tie in with FCP - more
post capabilities. Maybe this time?
Imho, Apple is missing a big boat by not letting OSX loose, but I have a
feeling it might not play well with 80% of the hardware out there - one
reason for a closed system, and of course, profit is higher with a closed
platform, so I don't expect it to happen in the next 1425604 years. ;-)
Dedric
On 8/10/07 11:57 AM, in article 46bca718$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> Hey Dedric,
> I see where you are coming from. For my needs, the Mac Pro with OSX is just
> fine. 80-120 tracks is fine for what I do..Plus, I don't monitor via in the
> box, so I can and do run my current DAW 2048 ms latency, which as you know,
> takes a "big" strain off the system resources..
>
> I guess, I'm really really impressed with OS-X and the ability to run (true)XP
> (via Boot Camp)on one machine. As well as, being ready
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87602 is a reply to message #87537] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 06:52 |
Sarah
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ore 2 sweat either (I've run way more than that
>> with only 30% cpu load or so).
>>
>> Remember, the new macs are the exact same hardware as any core 2 or dual
>> core 2 PC, though the components may not be as high end as I might build
> for
>> one of my rigs. The German Keyboards mag review apparently found XP to
> run
>> more plugins than OSX on the same hardware (intel dual core 2s).
>>
>> Basically all you are getting is a nice box with a different OS. It might
>> be better multi-threaded - I would like to see some actual comparisons.
> I
>> might have to load OSX on one of my PCs.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 8/10/07 9:16 AM, in article 46bc8130$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys
> studio
>>> who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>>>
>>> But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs.
> Cubase
>>> 3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non Intel)...
>>>
>>> Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs on
> his
>>> Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
>>> Around 80 track..
>>>
>>> We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all
> 4
>>> bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>> Hit the space bar..
>>> Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the back
>>> round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with ....Pro
>>> Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>>>
>>> I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer (Intel)
>>> bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
>>> Solid.. Solid Solid..
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X and
> the
>>> ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>>>> registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never a
> problem
>>>> with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email,
> Skype,
>>>> etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop
> spam
>>>> mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source via a
> large
>>>> burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers, Apple
>>>> would really have something.... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously. You'll
> have
>>>> to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least (should
>>> be
>>>> soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison of plugin
>>>> counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects, but
>>>> identical.
>>>>
>>>> The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was from
>>>> Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>>>> apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count and
> low
>>>> latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run on
> the
>>>> same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>>>> OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win)
> and
>>>> Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS, I
> would
>>>> buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>>> bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to our
> new
>>> Mac
>>>>> Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>>>> internet..sorry
>>>>> but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> LAD
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much more
>>> than
>>>>>> the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro
>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No
> extra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THe verdict:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>>>> Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still a ways to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>>>>> are out there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, if only Ferrari wou
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87612 is a reply to message #87599] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 08:46 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
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t;
> I feel like I'm about to pour gas on this thread. Would you be willing to
> pay $299.00 for a PC version of OSX if it was unsupported? Would you buy
> it if there was no iLife or iWorks for it?
>
>
>>On 8/10/07 11:57 AM, in article 46bca718$1@linux, "LaMont"
>><jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hey Dedric,
>>>I see where you are coming from. For my needs, the Mac Pro with OSX is
>
> just
>
>>>fine. 80-120 tracks is fine for what I do..Plus, I don't monitor via in
>
> the
>
>>>box, so I can and do run my current DAW 2048 ms latency, which as you
>
> know,
>
>>>takes a "big" strain off the system resources..
>>>
>>>I guess, I'm really really impressed with OS-X and the ability to run
>
> (true)XP
>
>>>(via Boot Camp)on one machine. As well as, being ready for the NEW Logic
>>>Audio..
>>>
>>>having said that, I would run Os-X on my current DAWs if Apple allow for
>>>such. Yes, I know you can already do it(smile)..
>>>
>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The interesting comparison would be to actually run the exact same project
>>>>on Cubase 4 under OSX and XP. 80 tracks and 5 verbs and 20 ren comps
>
> and
>
>>>>stock EQ wouldn't make my core 2 sweat either (I've run way more than
>
> that
>
>>>>with only 30% cpu load or so).
>>>>
>>>>Remember, the new macs are the exact same hardware as any core 2 or dual
>>>>core 2 PC, though the components may not be as high end as I might build
>>>
>>>for
>>>
>>>>one of my rigs. The German Keyboards mag review apparently found XP
>
> to
>
>>>run
>>>
>>>>more plugins than OSX on the same hardware (intel dual core 2s).
>>>>
>>>>Basically all you are getting is a nice box with a different OS. It
>
> might
>
>>>>be better multi-threaded - I would like to see some actual comparisons.
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>might have to load OSX on one of my PCs.
>>>>
>>>>Dedric
>>>>
>>>>On 8/10/07 9:16 AM, in article 46bc8130$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys
>>>
>>>studio
>>>
>>>>>who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>>>>>
>>>>>But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs.
>>>
>>>Cubase
>>>
>>>>>3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non Intel)...
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs
>
> on
>
>>>his
>>>
>>>>>Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
>>>>>Around 80 track..
>>>>>
>>>>>We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all
>>>
>>>4
>>>
>>>>>bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>>>>Hit the space bar..
>>>>>Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the
>
> back
>
>>>>>round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with
>
> ...Pro
>
>>>>>Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>>>>>
>>>>>I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer (Intel)
>>>>>bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
>>>>>Solid.. Solid Solid..
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X
>
> and
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>>>>>>registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never
>
> a
>
>
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87613 is a reply to message #87463] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 09:03 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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>>problem
>>>
>>>>>>with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email,
>>>
>>>Skype,
>>>
>>>>>>etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop
>>>
>>>spam
>>>
>>>>>>mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source via
>
> a
>
>>>large
>>>
>>>>>>burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers,
>
> Apple
>
>>>>>>would really have something.... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously. You'll
>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>>>>to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least (should
>>>>>
>>>>>be
>>>>>
>>>>>>soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison of
>
> plugin
>
>>>>>>counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects,
>
> but
>
>>>>>>identical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was
>
> from
>
>>>>>>Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>>>>>>apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count
>
> and
>
>>>low
>>>
>>>>>>latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run
>
> on
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>>>>>>OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win)
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>>>Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS,
>
> I
>
>>>would
>>>
>>>>>>buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>>>>>bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be m
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87617 is a reply to message #87612] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 10:48 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple
>>>>>
>>>>>crap.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>We're back to the word "crap". So what is wrong with Safari? GarageBand
Does not come with OSX per say, but what is wrong with it? "Come on Dave,
give me a break" I think this is just more anti Mac stuff.
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>I would pay more money for OSX for Mac if Apple gave it an
>i-ppendectomy!! No i-crap, no Saffari, no Garage Crap...
>Just OS. I know you can remove the stuff, but I don't think
>it would be the same.
>
>I keep thinking of those Apple TV commercials... gets me
>thinking "wanna get some WORK done, buy a PC!" ;-) (ducking)
>
>David.
>
>ps. YES, we use *both* here.
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>
>>>And if you are running an HD rig, the Mac route makes sense. (Of course
>>>there is no other option for Logic). I'm curious to see where the next
>>>version of Logic goes.
>>>
>>>I've been wondering if Apple would give it more of a tie in with FCP -
more
>>>post capabilities. Maybe this time?
>>>
>>>Imho, Apple is missing a big boat by not letting OSX loose, but I have
a
>>>feeling it might not play well with 80% of the hardware out there - one
>>>reason for a closed system, and of course, profit is higher with a closed
>>>platform, so I don't expect it to happen in the next 1425604 years. ;-)
>>>
>>>Dedric
>>
>>
>> I feel like I'm about to pour gas on this thread. Would you be willing
to
>> pay $299.00 for a PC version of OSX if it was unsupported? Would you
buy
>> it if there was no iLife or iWorks for it?
>>
>>
>>>On 8/10/07 11:57 AM, in article 46bca718$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>><jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey Dedric,
>>>>I see where you are coming from. For my needs, the Mac Pro with OSX is
>>
>> just
>>
>>>>fine. 80-120 tracks is fine for what I do..Plus, I don't monitor via
in
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>box, so I can and do run my current DAW 2048 ms latency, which as you
>>
>> know,
>>
>>>>takes a "big" strain off the system resources..
>>>>
>>>>I guess, I'm really really impressed with OS-X and the ability to run
>>
>> (true)XP
>>
>>>>(via Boot Camp)on one machine. As well as, being ready for the NEW Logic
>>>>Audio..
>>>>
>>>>having said that, I would run Os-X on my current DAWs if Apple allow
for
>>>>such. Yes, I know you can already do it(smile)..
>>>>
>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The interesting comparison would be to actually run the exact same project
>>>>>on Cubase 4 under OSX and XP. 80 tracks and 5 verbs and 20 ren comps
>>
>> and
>>
>>>>>stock EQ wouldn't make my core 2 sweat either (I've run way more than
>>
>> that
>>
>>>>>with only 30% cpu load or so).
>>>>>
>>>>>Remember, the new macs are the exact same hardware as any core 2 or
dual
>>>>>core 2 PC, though the components may not be as high end as I might build
>>>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>>one of my rigs. The German Keyboards mag review apparently found XP
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>run
>>>>
>>>>>more plugins than OSX on the same hardware (intel dual core 2s).
>>>>>
>>>>>Basically all you are getting is a nice box with a different OS. It
>>
>> might
>>
>>>>>be better multi-threaded - I would like to see some actual comparisons.
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>>might have to load OSX on one of my PCs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8/10/07 9:16 AM, in article 46bc8130$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys
>>>>
>>>>studio
>>>>
>>>>>>who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs.
>>>>
>>>>Cubase
>>>>
>>>>>>3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non Intel)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs
>>
>> on
>>
>>>>his
>>>>
>>>>>>Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
>>>>>>Around 80 track..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all
>>>>
>>>>4
>>>>
>>>>>>bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>>>>>Hit th
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87627 is a reply to message #87602] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 16:47 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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product is completely
unsupported and sold as a non-retail product (e.g. can't make a Mac version
with full support and a PC version for the same price and none, but you
could sell OSX for both platforms with limited support).
Regardless, as has been said before iWork is extra, not included, so that
doesn't count. iLife is $79 to upgrade to the new version, so it isn't
exactly an OS "feature", and it's a home user/recreational set of tools, not
something I would consider a must for professional use (iChat might come in
handy for client communication, but Skype works quite well for free). iLife
is an app just like any other.
$299 for OSX? If it really provided some specific advantage for the price,
but it's more than I pay for WinXP (I only pay $139 for WinXP Pro (OEM)
since I build my own machines (e.g. that meets the license requirement for
the OEM version). Like Dave, I don't need iLife - just an OS, stripped down
running fast. iWork might come in handy for only $79 vs. MS Office since I
don't need the full capabilities of Office and do get MS Word and Excel docs
from clients, but again, it is an add on, not an OS feature.
Beyond that, I'm not what the context of your question is. Is Apple
considering such a move?
Regards,
Dedric
>>
>> On 8/10/07 11:57 AM, in article 46bca718$1@linux, "LaMont"
>> <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Dedric,
>>> I see where you are coming from. For my needs, the Mac Pro with OSX is
> just
>>> fine. 80-120 tracks is fine for what I do..Plus, I don't monitor via in
> the
>>> box, so I can and do run my current DAW 2048 ms latency, which as you
> know,
>>> takes a "big" strain off the system resources..
>>>
>>> I guess, I'm really really impressed with OS-X and the ability to run
> (true)XP
>>> (via Boot Camp)on one machine. As well as, being ready for the NEW Logic
>>> Audio..
>>>
>>> having said that, I would run Os-X on my current DAWs if Apple allow for
>>> such. Yes, I know you can already do it(smile)..
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>> The interesting comparison would be to actually run the exact same project
>>>> on Cubase 4 under OSX and XP. 80 tracks and 5 verbs and 20 ren comps
> and
>>>> stock EQ wouldn't make my core 2 sweat either (I've run way more than
> that
>>>> with only 30% cpu load or so).
>>>>
>>>> Remember, the new macs are the exact same hardware as any core 2 or dual
>>>> core 2 PC, though the components may not be as high end as I might build
>>> for
>>>> one of my rigs. The German Keyboards mag review apparently found XP
> to
>>> run
>>>> more plugins than OSX on the same hardware (intel dual core 2s).
>>>>
>>>> Basically all you are getting is a nice box with a different OS. It
> might
>>>> be better multi-threaded - I would like to see some actual comparisons.
>>> I
>>>> might have to load OSX on one of my PCs.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
>>>>
>>>> On 8/10/07 9:16 AM, in article 46bc8130$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys
>>> studio
>>>>> who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs.
>>> Cubase
>>>>> 3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non
>>>>> Intel)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs
> on
>>> his
>>>>> Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
>>>>> Around 80 track..
>>>>>
>>>>> We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all
>>> 4
>>>>> bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>>>> Hit the space bar..
>>>>> Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the
> back
>>>>> round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with
> ...Pro
>>>>> Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer (Intel)
>>>>> bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
>>>>> Solid.. Solid Solid..
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X
> and
>>> the
>>>>> ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>>>>>> registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never
> a
>>> problem
>>>>>> with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email,
>>> Skype,
>>>>>> etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop
>>> spam
>>>>>> mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source via
> a
>>> large
>>>>>> burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers,
> Apple
>>>>>> would really have something.... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously. You'll
>>> have
>>>>>> to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least (should
>>>>> be
>>>>>> soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison of
> plugin
>>>>>> counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects,
> but
>>>>>> identical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was
> from
>>>>>> Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>>>>>> apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count
> and
>>> low
>>>>>> latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run
> on
>>> the
>>>>>> same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>>>>>> OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win)
>>> and
>>>>>> Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS,
> I
>>> would
>>>>>> buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>>>>> bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont"
>>>>>> <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Classic Rock [message #87636 is a reply to message #87617] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 20:54 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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tem of choice for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to our
>>>>>
>>>>>new
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>>>>>>>>internet..sorry
>>>>>>>>>but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>LAD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much
>>>
>>>more
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a
>>>
>>>pro
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>environment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>>>>>>>>>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>>>>>>>>>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.).
>
> No
>
>>>>>extra
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>THe verdict:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>>>>>>>>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Still a ways to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>JH
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>>>>>>>>>Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>>>>>>>>>are out there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>>>>>>>>>& price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>purpose
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive
>>>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>taking
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>politics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know
>>>>>
>>>>>quite
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>know
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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