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| Re: Paris v3.0. To update or not to update? [message #92676 is a reply to message #92639] |
Tue, 13 November 2007 15:43  |
Wayne Carson
 Messages: 86 Registered: June 2007
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on's sanity is really slimey IMHO.
>That's what people do when they are really desperate to win an argument
>and they have nothing.
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>Anyway I am fed up with the apathy we face in this country about
>changing our government institutions and political system. I think we
>can do something about it, and I like that Ron Paul is standing up to
>say "I am the man who will do it." That takes a LOT of courage.
>
>Deej wrote:
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4780f132$1@linux...
>>> http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01042008/watch2.html
>>>
>>> This is a very thoughtful interview. If you like Paul's message, pass
it
>>> on to others who might be excited to know there is an alternative to
big
>>> bus- I'm sorry. I meant big government running our lives.
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>> I think that if he were outfitted with a cardigan sweater he could sub
in
>> for Mr. Rogers, part 2. There's plenty about Ron Paul's message that
I
>> like, and plenty about it that is seemingly from outer space. He seems
to be
>> in total denial of some pretty major global realities and I would like
to
>> hear him explain exactly how he plans to convert our currency to the gold
>> standard. As far as Moyers is concerned, I love the obvious bias in some
of
>> his questions ........so ...since I can't really say much nice, I won't
say
>> anything.........I know that's not like me, but I've sorta' got a soft
spot
>> for him from my days when I was a hard core liberal kinda' guy......before
I
>> stopped using mind altering substances.
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>>I really like a lot of the ideas that RP is talking about. I thinik a lot of
what he is saying is radical, but I feel that it's needed. Our government,
policies - home and abroad -, and politics are truely becoming more and more
discouraging to me. At this point, I am more scared of Bush than AQ - which
is pretty sad. I have never been a Repulican, but I'd choose RP over anyone
else right now. I do think it's important to learn more about all of the
candidates views and visions (< if they have any) too.
-Carl
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47815ffb$1@linux...
>
> No one says he has all the answers of course, but I don't see anyone that
> comes close to honesty and real issues. Barack seems more honest than
> usual
> but he doesn't really have any solid plans.I think that politics is organized corruption, that's what it is. They take
money from us that they haven't earned and spend it on whoever elected them.
The upside of this is the interstate system, the downside is bags of money
changing hands for construction contracts and no show municipal jobs.
I also think that it's hard for anyone who hasn't lived on the urban east
coast, say between DC and Boston, to understand how much local politicians
have to sell out to get elected and re-elected. There's all kinds of greaseball,
19th century, Boss Tweed, Tammany Hall bullshit that goes on out here that
I just don't think happens in the rest of the US.
Personally I think that might make Guliani a more effective president, he
knows how to manage corruption, which is politics, pretty well. But our national
elections are about theater, smug displays of vague featly to the flag and
bible, they have nothing to do with actual politics.
TCB
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