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Sun, 20 May 2007 19:14

dc[3]
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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84869 is a reply to message #84868]

Sun, 20 May 2007 19:30

gene lennon
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t="_blank">4675584c@linux">news:4675584c@linux</A>...</DIV>Well=20
heck, if it's discontinued, it's right up my alley. It can replace my=20
 discontinued Steinberg Houston.and interface with my *soon to be*=20
 discontinued RME HDSP 9652's. I'm starting to feel right at =
home=20
again. I picked up a Demeter VTCL the other day. Went to their =
site to DL=20
a manual and guess what???........yep, it's now *vintage*. It will =
feel=20
right at home here in the *Studio Of The Living=20
Dead*. "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:46755517@linux">news:46755517@linux</A>... >=20
HI Bill, > Yes AFAIK the only major update is the DSP increase =
and the=20
quality and > number of effects. I think also the mixers =
software has=20

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84870 is a reply to message #84868]

Sun, 20 May 2007 19:47

excelav

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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

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/> more routing > options but haven't A/Bed it with an old one=20
yet. > Which of the smaller ones? The 01v96v2 and o2r96v2 or the =

DM1000v2? I > think the o1v96 is the only one currently that =
has a=20
chance to be > discontinued. But normally they just replace and =

upgrade. That ones > feature set is getting long in th e=20
tooth. > > > Chris > > > Bill L=20
wrote: >> Chris, >> >> I took a look at =
their site=20
and they do show the DM series as >> discontinued. Are

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84871 is a reply to message #84869]

Sun, 20 May 2007 19:51

dc[3]
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Registered: September 2005

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the =
new ones=20
basically the same, but with a s/w update? >> >> I =
also saw=20
some new smaller digital mixers that look kinda cool, w/ more =
 >>=20
dedicated knobs than most small format digital mixers have. Know =
anything=20
 >> about those? >> >> Chris Ludwig=20
wrote: >>> HI Bill, >>> Yes if just using the =
little=20
screen. Using the Studio manager software >>> makes it =
about easy=20
as using a DAW. >>> >>>=20
Chris >>> >>> >>> Bill L=20
wrote: >>>> I hope that does not stand fro Very =
Complicated=20
Matrix. >>>> >>>> Chris Ludwig=20
wrote: >>>>> Nope just updated to the VCM=20
=
version. >>>>> >>>>> >>>&=
gt;>=20
wireline wrote: >>>>>>=20
Hmmm... >>>>>> >>>>>> At the =
risk of=20
being very unpopular, the Dm2000, while an asTOUNDING=20
 >>>>>> board, >>>>>> is=20
discontinued last I heard...and as with all things digital, once=20
 >>>>>> discontinued, >>>>>> =
lack of=20
any support whatsoever is not far behind...I would think very=20
 >>>>>> hard >>>>>> about =
the DM2000=20
(even though I really was amazed at just how good it=20
 >>>>>> sounds) >>>>>> or =
even a=20
Sony RMX100... >>>&am

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84872 is a reply to message #84868]

Sun, 20 May 2007 19:52

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

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p;gt;>> >>>>>> =
That=20
said, none of my boards are current production models, even the=20
 >>>>>> companies >>>>>> =
have=20
changed hands drastically or are out of the pro audio biz...but=20
 >>>>>> parts >>>>>> are =
readily=20
available, and there are no digital issues, software, etc=20
 >>>>>> to >>>>>> be =
concerned=20
about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Last=20
FWIW:  Otari made a really handy board - had no preamps, just=20
 >>>>>> tape returns, >>>>>> =
auxes=20
out the wazoo, sources I trust say the EQ was a silent miracle,=20
 >>>>>> and >>>>>> (get =
this) 48=20
channels of Eagle=20
automation.... >>>>>> >>>>>> =

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84873 is a reply to message #84870]

Sun, 20 May 2007 19:59

dc[3]
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Just an=20
FYI >>>>>> "DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=20
wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My =
Furman=20
HDS16 gives me the flexibility of a console for cue mixes.=20
 >>>>>>> Everything else is pretty well laid =
out and=20
easy to manage. I don't >>>>>>>=20
need >>>>>>> >>>>>>=20
the >>>>>>> preamps. What would a DM2000 cost =
with=20
interconnectivity for3 x RME >>>>>>>=20
=
HDSP >>>>>>> >>>>>> >&=
gt;>>>> >>>>>>>=20
9652's, an RME Multiface, 2 RME ADI8-DS, and 9 x stereo/18 mono=20
 >>>>&a

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84874 is a reply to message #84872]

Sun, 20 May 2007 20:02

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

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mp;gt;>>=20
Channels >>>>>>> >>>>>>=20
of >>>>>>> AES switchable to coax or optical=20
=
S/Pdif? >>>>>>> <

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84877 is a reply to message #84874]

Sun, 20 May 2007 20:26

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

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>>>&g=
t;=20
that >>>>>>>& ;gt;> managing the flows in the =
studio=20
should be as simple and central =
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;> as=20
possible for the sake of speed and flexibility. A console does=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;> that=20
=
and >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>><B=
R>>>>>>&

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84883 is a reply to message #84877]

Mon, 21 May 2007 02:17

Sarah

Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007

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a Grace101, tracked
dual-mono on each pass.

>Cool.
>Tom

Thanks!
Neil

>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:467491dc$1@linux...
>
> Not finals, necessarily, but close enough to where it'll just
> be a tweak or two before they're finished. I'll hand it to
> these guys - they're into some weird shit, but at least they
> don't want everything louder than everything else, and they
> don't want all the tops of all the waveforms looking like a
> bunch of Darfurian refugees standing in a canoe.
>
> I think the guitars might be a bit raspy in a few places, but
> the guys like 'em as-is.
>
> Comments welcome....
>
> http://sa

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84894 is a reply to message #84883]

Mon, 21 May 2007 06:53

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

ontinued,
>>>>>> lack of any support whatsoever is not far behind...I would =
think very=20
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> about the DM2000 (even though I really was amazed at just how =
good it=20
>>>>>> sounds)
>>>>>> or even a Sony RMX100...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, none of my boards are current production models, =
even the=20
>>>>>> companies
>>>>>> have changed hands drastically or are out of the pro audio =
biz...but=20
>>>>>> parts
>>>>>> are readily available, and the

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84898 is a reply to message #84894]

Mon, 21 May 2007 07:04

Tom Bruhl

Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

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feel right at home here in the *Studio Of The Living=20
Dead*. "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:46755517@linux">news:46755517@linux</A>... >=20
HI Bill, > Yes AFAIK the only major update is the DSP increase =
and the=20
quality and > number of effects. I think also the mixers =
software has=20
more routing > options but haven't A/Bed it with an old one=20
yet. > Which of the smaller ones? The 01v96v2 and o2r96v2 or =
the=20
DM1000v2? I > think the o1v96 is the only one currently that =
has a=20
chance to be > discontinued. But normally they just replace =
and=20
upgrade. That ones > feature set is getting long in th e=20
tooth. > > > Chris > > > Bill L=20
wrote: >> Chris, >> >> I took a look at =
their=20
site and they do show the DM series as >> discontinued. =
Are the=20
new ones basically the same, but with a s/w =
update? >> >>=20
I also saw some new smaller digital mixers that look kinda cool, w/ =
more=20
 >> dedicated knobs than most small format digital mixers =
have.=20
Know anything >> about those? >> >> =
Chris Ludwig=20
wrote: >>> HI Bill, >>> Yes if just using =
the little=20
screen. Using the Studio manager software >>> makes it =
about=20
easy as using a DAW. >>> >>>=20
Chris >>> >>> >>> Bill L=20
wrote: >>>> I hope that does not stand fro Very =
Complicated=20
Matrix. >>>> >>>> Chris Ludwig=20
wrote: >>>>> Nope just updated to the VCM=20
=
version. >>>>> >>>>> >>>&=
gt;>=20
wireline wrote: >>>>>>=20
Hmmm... >>>>>> >>>>>> At =
the risk=20
of being very unpopular, the Dm2000, while an asTOUNDING=20
 >>>>>> board, >>>>>> is=20
discontinued last I heard...and as with all things digital, once=20
 >>>>>> =
discontinued, >>>>>> lack=20
of any support whatsoever is not far behind...I would think very=20
 >>>>>> hard >>>>>> about =
the=20
DM2000 (even though I really was amazed at just how good it=20
 >>>>>> sounds) >>>>>> or =
even a=20
Sony =
RMX100... >>>>>> >>>>>> That=20
said, none of my boards are current production models, even the=20
 >>>>>> companies >>>>>> =
have=20
changed hands drastically or are out of the pro audio biz...but=20
 >>>>>> parts >>>>>> are =
readily=20
available, and there are no digital issues, software, etc=20
 >>>>>> to >>>>>> be =
concerned=20
about. >>>&am

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84900 is a reply to message #84898]

Mon, 21 May 2007 07:55

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

t="_blank">1@linux">news:467438ac$1@linux</A>... >>&g=
t;>>>> >>>>>>>& ;gt;=20
Maybe if we keep poking him, he'll finally bite on a DM2K...=20
=
;-) >>>>>>>& ;gt; >>>>>>>& ;g=
t;=20
=
David. >>>>>>>& ;gt; >>>>>>&gt=
;>=20
Bill L=20
=
wrote: >>>>>>>& ;gt; >>>>>>&gt=
;>>=20
I'm with Wireline. While there are ways to use ASIO direct and=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;> even=20
=
low >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>><B=
R>>>>>>> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
latency monitoring, as a onetime pro studio owner I have the=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
=
mindset >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>&g=
t;=20
that >>>>>>>& ;gt;> managing the flows in =
the=20
studio should be as simple and central=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;> as possible for the sake of =
speed=20
and flexibility. A console does =
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
that=20
=
and >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>><B=
R>>>>>>> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
offers the pres, eqs and studio routing infrastructure that makes=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
=
life >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>><=
BR>>>>>>> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
comfortable so you can concentrate on the music and the people,=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
=
which >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>>=
 >>>>>> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
will get better end results than managing routing of=20
=
signals. >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>&=
gt;>>>=20
I don't mind whether digital or analog, they each have pluses and=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;> minuses, IMHO, though I =
would=20
probably go for a good digital =
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
=
console >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>&g=
t;=20
as >>>>>>>& ;gt;> the price to quality =
ratio is=20
much higher with a DM2000 than an =
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
=
analog >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>&gt=
; >>>>>> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
board, which would necessarily be pretty old at that price and=20
 >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=20
=
quality >>>>>>>& ;gt;> >>>>>&g=
t; >>>>>> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>=

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84957 is a reply to message #84872]

Mon, 21 May 2007 17:58

Paul Braun

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Re: Help! We have a baby Blue Jay fell out of the nest... [message #84970 is a reply to message #84957]

Mon, 21 May 2007 20:04

Deej [4]

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