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Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95631]

Tue, 05 February 2008 21:35

Neil
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gt; NeilHey Rick, I did not get that one.

rick wrote:
> is that a with or without a sunlight tilt? ;o)
>
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:04:55 -0400, Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah and Mr. No Spin (Bill O'Reilly) is the biggest spinner of them
>> all. In fact any time he makes the no spin point, you know he just spun
>> the crap out of something.
>>
>> I reckon it's just entertainment. If you take it seriously you WILL end
>> up with your head ti

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95639 is a reply to message #95631]

Tue, 05 February 2008 20:57

Tony Benson

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> DC wrote:
> Cool story!
>
> Man, we live in gear heaven don't we?
>
>
> DC
>
>
> "Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=8970561 0
>>
>It was strange, Friday I took delivery on a vintage U87, my first Neumann!
can't wait t

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95655 is a reply to message #95631]

Wed, 06 February 2008 01:56

Sarah

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ign authority in." Hmm, OK, who should we
be
>listening to on this subject? Who are the "experts" and how did they get

>that way? Masters of Political Science? I don't think you'll find many
of
>those among our leaders. There are lot of lawyers in the ranks, but I'm
not
>sure that makes anyone an expert in governing. Is it time spent in the

>halls of congress that makes one an "expert"? So we should listen to the

>really old guys? . . . Ted Stevens leaps to mind. Or Ted Kennedy for that

>matter.
>
>Have you ever watched C-Span, or other examples of our government at work?

>Some of those people just don't strike me as our best and brightest. I
can
>only watch that stuff for about five minutes before I scream and change
the
>channel. It's just so intolerably slow and painfully dispassionate. If

>those are our experts, I can see why we're in serious trouble.
>
>Are there really any experts in politics/governing? Who are they, and what

>are their credentials? In our system of government, aren't WE essentially

>the government? Doesn't that mean give every one of us the "expertise,"

>possibly even the duty to speak up?
>
>It's possible, of course, "that government of the people, by the people,
for
>the people" has long since perished "fr

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95659 is a reply to message #95639]

Wed, 06 February 2008 05:21

Rod Lincoln
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(if any) of these fields.
>>>
>>>And for my next obiter dictum, since when does one need to be an expert
>> to
>>>make a valid observation or have a good idea? That's rather elitist,
no?
>>>
>>>NB
>>>
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I don't think my logic is flawed. It's very difficult for one human being
>>>>to become an expert in one field, much less two or three. I know, as
I
>> have
>>>>failed at a half dozen. Would you listen to Tim Robbins' opinions about
>>>maritime
>>>>a

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95667 is a reply to message #95655]

Wed, 06 February 2008 07:54

Nei
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>on every=3D20
> track too !!<BR>It even substract latency !!!!<BR>So by putting a =
=3D
>waves=3D20
> rencomp (64 samples) on track 2 that does NOT mean<BR>that =
faderworks
=3D
>will=3D20
> delay all others again by 64 samples !! , thus overall<BR>latency =
WILL
=3D
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> at 64 samples, ONLY track 2 which was already 64 samples<BR>latent =
=3D
>because of=3D20
> track 1 now faderworks just SUBSTRACTS that 64 samples<BR>for this =
=3D
>track=3D20
> !!<BR><BR>Anyone understood what I typed in here ? =3D
>:)<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios=3D20
> <BR><BR>eff H <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR>>How does this function with =3D
>plugins=3D20
> inside a wrapper, for example <BR>>autotune wrapped inside=3D20
> FFX4?<BR>><BR>>JH<BR>><BR>>wrote:<BR>>> I tried the =3D
>beta1=3D20
> and it is marvelous.<BR>>> It holds 64 presets with latencies so =
=3D
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> just click the on button<BR>anytime<BR>>> you load the=3D20
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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95690 is a reply to message #95667]

Wed, 06 February 2008 17:02

Sarah

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95694 is a reply to message #95690]

Wed, 06 February 2008 21:22

Neil
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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95700 is a reply to message #95667]

Wed, 06 February 2008 22:53

Rod Lincoln
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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95705 is a reply to message #95690]

Thu, 07 February 2008 01:40

rick

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95710 is a reply to message #95700]

Thu, 07 February 2008 08:04

Don Nafe

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t;Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
> >news:480f206e$1@linux...
> >
> > Dear Tom,
> > This is just a plugin so the latencies are just added afterall.
> > So the automation could be made before doing any faderworks job and
=
>=3D
> >then
> > after putting all plugins with their latencies you just look at the
=
>=3D
> >overall
> > latency and offset the automation for that amount.
> > I don't know when this will be released...
> > Regards,
> > Dimitrios
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Dimitrios,
> > >This all makes sense. Thank you for that. Now do the
> > >Paris automation lines still work on plugins that are being
> > >compensated for with Faderworks or is the gu

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95774 is a reply to message #95631]

Fri, 08 February 2008 16:46

Wayne Carson

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>>
>>>>>Thanks for any input..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>
>Hey Chris - what do you think of the Presonus StudioLive 16.4.2?

http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=52

My friend's salivating over it already as one-stop-shopping for
simultaneously doing live sound + recording - 16 mic pres, FW interface, 2
global DSPs, every channel has its own/dynamics/gate/4 band EQ/HPF, six
auxes... I'm interested to see how much it costs. He's currently using one
of the Phonic Helix boards for that, but this looks like a step up.

- Kerry

On 4/25/08 3:22 PM, in article

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Fri, 08 February 2008 19:31

Deej [5]

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>
> On 4/25/08 3:22 PM, in article 48125bd5@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've done this system a bunch of times for people doing live recording.
>>
>>

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95800 is a reply to message #95631]

Sat, 09 February 2008 12:05

Rich Lamanna

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p;nbsp; There =
is<BR>> some=20
issues with memory with this MOBO, so I'm running only 512 k, I =
think<BR>>=20
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pack 1=20
or 2?<BR>> <BR>> "Aaron Allen" <</FONT><A=20
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USB and=20
onboard audio if you're <

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Sat, 09 February 2008 12:09

Rich Lamanna

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;BR>>>planning on loading the PCI slots. =
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spec are=20
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decent.=20
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size=3D2>www.crucial.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>) unless =
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Sat, 09 February 2008 19:34

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you have done some testing do you think 256k mp3s
> are good enough that in a live situation one can't hear much diff?Yep, I've never had the least problem with 128.

- K

On 4/27/08 1:34 PM, in article 4814e621@linux, "Bill L"
<bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:

> I'm compressing a bunch of files for a portable player to be used to
> play rhythm trax for gigs. I need to use mp3 because I will need iTunes
> to be able to access them. If you have done some testing do you think
> 256k mp3s are good enough that in a live situation one can't hear much diff?Hey Neil,

There _is_ a difference, but it's small enough that it's hard to put into
words. And I'm usually pretty good with words. The one Deej sold me is a
touch brighter, and a touch more present. It's almost a spacial thing, the
Deej mic sounds closer, more intimate. I used the one you sold me as a mono

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Sun, 10 February 2008 02:04

Neil
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>iTunes would not be my first choice as =
a DJ player=20
that's for sure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use PCDJ but there are others that =
are equal too=20
or better as I understand.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PCDJ rips very nicely too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://pcdj.com/blogroll/pcdj-dex/">http://pcdj.com/blogroll/pcdj=
-dex/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Sun, 10 February 2008 15:45

Rich Lamanna

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ar much diff?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>
>For live I'd suggest 128k. Mix to mono, and put your click on the left,
track on the right. That way you can fix any phase funnies in a more
controlled environment and up the sample rate as/if needed.

Try using MediaMonkey for controlling your iPod device (or equivalent). Nice
thing is, you can put all this into a laptop and take that as a 'uh oh'
device should your little dude forget who it is.

www.mediamonkey.com

a.. Organize music and edit tags in your audio library with a powerful,
intuitive interface
a.. Automatically lookup and tag Album Art and other metadata
a.. Manage 50,000+ files in your music collection without bogging down
a.. Play MP3s and other audio formats, and never again worry about varying
volume
a.. Record CDs into OGG, MP3, FLAC and WMA files
a.. Convert MP3s, M4A, OGG, FLAC and WMA files into other formats
a.. Create playlists and music mixes quickly and easily to suit any occasion
a.. Synchronize with iPods / MP3 players effortlessly and convert tracks
on-the-fly

AA

"Bill

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Re: Holy Shit! A Music-Related Thread!!! [message #95845 is a reply to message #95826]

Sun, 10 February 2008 18:15

emarenot
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L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:4814e621@linux...
> I'm compressing a bunch of files for a portable player to be used to play
> rhythm trax for gigs. I need to use mp3 because I will need iTunes to be
> able to access them. If you have done some testing do you think 256k mp3s
> are good enough that in a live situation one can't hear much diff? http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skuinc.hmx?sku=ba24819&promo= MP

Intel XEON SL72G 3.06 Ghz Processor w/1MB Cache
$50 Clearance Discount!
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Technical Information:

a.. sSpec Number: SL72G
a.. CPU Speed: 3.06 GHz
a.. PCG:
a.. Bus Speed: 533 MHz
a.. Bus/Core Ratio: 23
a.. L3 Cache Size: 1 MB
a.. L3 Cache Speed: 3.06
a.. GHz Package Type: Micro-FCPGA
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with repetitive algos like audio plugs use, the extra cache could be a big
deal for ya. Just make sure you have the right socket for it and mobo
support.

AAThanks all. I have enjoyed reading the comments shared and other related
info as well.

Tyrone Corbett

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I have a friend who has a BIG mic. He's in l

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