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Thu, 12 October 2006 21:12  |
Tony Benson
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---=_linux454bb6c1--I gotta say that at this point... 6 years later, or whatever, this seems
silly.
-Carl
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote in message
news:454bb663$1@linux...
>
> Did you remember to include you EDS serial number and 3.0 key numbers?
They
> won't respond without both of those pieces of information.
>
> Mark
>
> "JLS" <jens.sundbo@NOSPAMvkbb.no> wrote:
> >
> >"JLS" < >I have bought 3.0 and is trying to a get the license.
> >> I sent them a mail 10 days ago and still no response.
> >>
> >> Are they usually that slow?
> >>
> >> Their website says 7 days.
> >>
> >> JS
> >
> >
> >Now it's 12 days.
> >No response.....
> >
> >
>Agreed!
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>I gotta say that at this point... 6 years later, or whatever, this seems
>silly.
>
>-Carl
>
>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote in message
>news:454bb663$1@linux...
>>
>> Did you remember to include you EDS serial number and 3.0 key numbers?
>They
>> won't respond without both of those pieces of information.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "JLS" <jens.sundbo@NOSPAMvkbb.no> wrote:
>> >
>> >"JLS" < >I have bought 3.0 and is trying to a get the license.
>> >> I sent them a mail 10 days ago and still no response.
>> >>
>> >> Are they usually that slow?
>> >>
>> >> Their website says 7 days.
>> >>
>> >> JS
>> >
>> >
>> >Now it's 12 days.
>> >No response.....
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>I was crawling out of a bordello one night in Tijuana after getting a mezcal
enema and I looked up from the slop trench I was laying in and saw a rat
that reminded me of my 5th grade teacher who used to take these fishooks and
........uhhhh.....wait!!!!, what time it is???....where's my coffee????
;oP
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lmhmk21h267c8ik1a3t81nopn8a2077taj@4ax.com...
> had to hit that vodka to calm my shattered...something...
>
>
>
> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:04:15 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>
> >That is unbelievable rick! You guys must have been amazed!
> >
> >rick wrote:
> >> ain't that the truth. we were out trick or treating with the
> >> granddaughter and family when our daughter runs into a woman she
> >> hasn't seen in 35 years when she was 5. how the hell they recognized
> >> each other i'll never know.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:28:37 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So, Dale Bradley decides to buy my C16. Yay. Turns out he's from
Eugene
> >>> Oregon. Hey, I lived there once on Sherwood Place. Turns out he has
a
> >>> brother on Sherwood Place. Hey, my landlord's name was Bradley.
> >>>
> >>> His DAD was my landlord for 4 years from 88 to 92 and it's his
brothers
> >>> house and are great people! FAWK !
> >>>
> >>> I have these amazing coincedences about 3 or 4 times a year and this
one
> >>> takes the cake. I call them brief religious experiences. Wild !
> >>
>Is that DJ's front yard?
hehe,
John
DC wrote:
> Where's the beer?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>Thanks Fedex, sorry Craig.Has anybody tried MadTracker? Any thoughts?
http://www.madtracker.org/about.php
JamesI don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
not in my lifetime.
Love,
Sarah
www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
>not in my lifetime.
But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
be important?
NeilVote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate
with a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what
immediate goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do
it with and what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate
their progress along the way.
Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
Neil wrote:
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
>
>> not in my lifetime.
>
> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
> be important?
>
> NeilAnyone catch "Hacking Democracy" on hbo last night? It's a bit un-nerving,
but worth watching.
-Carl
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:454bf150@linux...
> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
> not in my lifetime.
>
> Love,
>
> Sarah
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>what is it ? is it like band in a box where you type in a chord ?
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:454bf098$1@linux...
>
> Has anybody tried MadTracker? Any thoughts?
>
> http://www.madtracker.org/about.php
>
> JamesRecording a small demo project for a female singer, just a
couple of songs with acoustic piano & voice. Since I don't have
an acoustic piano, I'll do the mix here, but we're going to be
doing it out at my friend's studio in this room:
http://www.sonicranch.com/sta4tracktoproom.html
Probably going to use 414's on the Piano & my Earthworks TC-30
Omnis for room mics, but the most interesing part will be
a/b-ing the following mics on vocals:
1.) A Stephen Paul-modded U-67 with the submicron diaphragm
2.) A Soundelux 251-C
3.) A Mojave MA-200
4.) A pure vintage c-12 if I can get them to break one out
If I can get a few worthwhile lines on each mic, I'll post some
clips & signal chain details.
Neiljohn you said it brother!Its too bad there isnt a* none of the above*
vote.they are ALL corrupt idiots.I have a feeling this will be a
longgggggggggggggg ass thread.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate with
> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate
> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with and
> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
> progress along the way.
>
> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>
> Neil wrote:
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>> least
>>
>>> not in my lifetime.
>>
>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>> be important?
>>
>> Neil"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>john you said it brother!Its too bad there isnt a* none of the above*
>vote.they are ALL corrupt idiots.I have a feeling this will be a
>longgggggggggggggg ass thread.
DAMN! I hope not. It's getting soooooo old, and it really doesn't belong
here. Better on the General NG.
James
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
>> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate
with
>> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate
>> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with
and
>> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
>> progress along the way.
>>
>> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least
>>>
>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>
>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>> be important?
>>>
>>> Neil
>
>Wow, what a place man....!!!
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta4tracktoproom.htmlTonight I started playing back some audio with the Creamware hardware for
the first time. I opened up a template in the Creamware patchbay and started
playing back a track in Wavelab. It was one of those *holyshit!!!* moments.
I had heard this track many times (I remastered it) and I was sitting there
listening to it through the creamware card thinking, "man, this sounds
great!!!...what's up. Then I started looking around in the patchbay template
and discovered that the PsyQ and Optimaster plugins were part of this
template. These FX are *very good* We're talking UAD-1 level stuff here,
maybe better, as far as these two particular plugins are concerned.
I don't know why but I didn't expect this for some reason. I'm still waiting
on a couple of stragglers that haven't shown up yet in order to complete the
wiring in of the studio, but the first impressions of the Creamware
mastering plugs are very positive.
DeejIt would be worth it to buy one of these cards just for the reverbs. This is
top shelf stuff. I'm not kidding. These are in the same basic league with my
Lexi PCM 91. Now I know why Dimtrios was willing to sell me his Roland
R-880. He had a Pulsar so he didn't need it anymore.....LOL!!! I'm sorta
floored by what I'm hearing here.
;o)
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454c0c65@linux...
> Tonight I started playing back some audio with the Creamware hardware for
> the first time. I opened up a template in the Creamware patchbay and
started
> playing back a track in Wavelab. It was one of those *holyshit!!!*
moments.
> I had heard this track many times (I remastered it) and I was sitting
there
> listening to it through the creamware card thinking, "man, this sounds
> great!!!...what's up. Then I started looking around in the patchbay
template
> and discovered that the PsyQ and Optimaster plugins were part of this
> template. These FX are *very good* We're talking UAD-1 level stuff here,
> maybe better, as far as these two particular plugins are concerned.
> I don't know why but I didn't expect this for some reason. I'm still
waiting
> on a couple of stragglers that haven't shown up yet in order to complete
the
> wiring in of the studio, but the first impressions of the Creamware
> mastering plugs are very positive.
>
> Deej
>
>
>Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If you
don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate with
> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate
> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with and
> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
> progress along the way.
>
> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>
> Neil wrote:
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>> least
>>
>>> not in my lifetime.
>>
>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>> be important?
>>
>> NeilBitch.
LOL!
:D
POST SOME CLIPS!!!!
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>It would be worth it to buy one of these cards just for the reverbs. This
is
>top shelf stuff. I'm not kidding. These are in the same basic league with
my
>Lexi PCM 91. Now I know why Dimtrios was willing to sell me his Roland
>R-880. He had a Pulsar so he didn't need it anymore.....LOL!!! I'm sorta
>floored by what I'm hearing here.
>
>;o)
>
>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454c0c65@linux...
>> Tonight I started playing back some audio with the Creamware hardware
for
>> the first time. I opened up a template in the Creamware patchbay and
>started
>> playing back a track in Wavelab. It was one of those *holyshit!!!*
>moments.
>> I had heard this track many times (I remastered it) and I was sitting
>there
>> listening to it through the creamware card thinking, "man, this sounds
>> great!!!...what's up. Then I started looking around in the patchbay
>template
>> and discovered that the PsyQ and Optimaster plugins were part of this
>> template. These FX are *very good* We're talking UAD-1 level stuff here,
>> maybe better, as far as these two particular plugins are concerned.
>> I don't know why but I didn't expect this for some reason. I'm still
>waiting
>> on a couple of stragglers that haven't shown up yet in order to complete
>the
>> wiring in of the studio, but the first impressions of the Creamware
>> mastering plugs are very positive.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>
>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
you
>don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.
NeilI wonder what that complex cost. I want one!maybe if i win
powerball..........
"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:454c08f3$1@linux...
> Wow, what a place man....!!!
>
>> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta4tracktoproom.html
>
>I will get around to it next week. I've got this thing patched into a Paris
vocal track right now routing via ADAT applying the Vinco (stands for
"vintagecomp", no doubt, and looks a bit 1176'ish) on an insert. No audible
latency at all. Has the ability to get sort of LA-2A'ish or 1176'ish
depending on whether your are using it in Peak or RMS mode.....and no
latency.....did I mention that?
Right now I've got things routed to where I'll be able to apply 8 of the
Creamware FX as plugins "per Paris submix" over 4 x submixes and I'll be
able to use the Creamware reverb, my Lexi PCM 91, Quantec and Roland R-880
on any rack across the 4 x submixes by using an RME ADI4 DD and
daisychaining in and out of an adat module in each MEC.....or at least I
will be as soon as the D-Sub - 4 x AES cable for it shows up.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454c1280$1@linux...
>
> Bitch.
>
> LOL!
>
> :D
>
> POST SOME CLIPS!!!!
>
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >It would be worth it to buy one of these cards just for the reverbs. This
> is
> >top shelf stuff. I'm not kidding. These are in the same basic league with
> my
> >Lexi PCM 91. Now I know why Dimtrios was willing to sell me his Roland
> >R-880. He had a Pulsar so he didn't need it anymore.....LOL!!! I'm sorta
> >floored by what I'm hearing here.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454c0c65@linux...
> >> Tonight I started playing back some audio with the Creamware hardware
> for
> >> the first time. I opened up a template in the Creamware patchbay and
> >started
> >> playing back a track in Wavelab. It was one of those *holyshit!!!*
> >moments.
> >> I had heard this track many times (I remastered it) and I was sitting
> >there
> >> listening to it through the creamware card thinking, "man, this sounds
> >> great!!!...what's up. Then I started looking around in the patchbay
> >template
> >> and discovered that the PsyQ and Optimaster plugins were part of this
> >> template. These FX are *very good* We're talking UAD-1 level stuff
here,
> >> maybe better, as far as these two particular plugins are concerned.
> >> I don't know why but I didn't expect this for some reason. I'm still
> >waiting
> >> on a couple of stragglers that haven't shown up yet in order to
complete
> >the
> >> wiring in of the studio, but the first impressions of the Creamware
> >> mastering plugs are very positive.
> >>
> >> Deej
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>I wrote in Al Gore for county surveyor todaay.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454c12f6$1@linux...
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
> you
> >don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
> Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
> not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
> place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.
>
> Neil...........so you're going to have a day of disgusting sluttage, it seems.
Do they have any vintage cowbells there?
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf979$1@linux...
>
> Recording a small demo project for a female singer, just a
> couple of songs with acoustic piano & voice. Since I don't have
> an acoustic piano, I'll do the mix here, but we're going to be
> doing it out at my friend's studio in this room:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta4tracktoproom.html
>
> Probably going to use 414's on the Piano & my Earthworks TC-30
> Omnis for room mics, but the most interesing part will be
> a/b-ing the following mics on vocals:
>
> 1.) A Stephen Paul-modded U-67 with the submicron diaphragm
> 2.) A Soundelux 251-C
> 3.) A Mojave MA-200
> 4.) A pure vintage c-12 if I can get them to break one out
>
> If I can get a few worthwhile lines on each mic, I'll post some
> clips & signal chain details.
>
> NeilOf course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
S.
"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
>
>>not in my lifetime.
>
> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
> be important?
>
> NeilAnd here's when Monday is coming for you;-)
"DC" <dc@spammersinCanada.eh> skrev i melding news:454bb6c1$1@linux...
>
> Where's the beer?
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com>>
> Did you remember to include you EDS serial number and 3.0 key numbers?
> They
> won't respond without both of those pieces of information.
>
> Mark
Thanks!
This is a transfer from another owner and not related to my EDS card.
It just a softwaretransfer.
OK I will try that...
I have to open the computer...
Why don't ID give the info.
It should be so easy
Are they arrogant....?And to me I don't care if they are of any party. I just want specifics.
Anything else is just rhetoric. Then I see the news saying Barack
Obama is the new great thing. So I watch him on Larry King and he's
just talking broad brush strokes pie in the sky. Sorry Barack, but if
you can't lay it out in detail I'm not interested. Oh, and I reserve
the right to QUESTION your detail and ask for more substantiation of
your proposal as if you had one.
John
Elect me, I'm for puppies
alex plasko wrote:
> john you said it brother!Its too bad there isnt a* none of the above*
> vote.they are ALL corrupt idiots.I have a feeling this will be a
> longgggggggggggggg ass thread.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454bf73d@linux...
>> Vote for what? They're all idiots with no plan. Show me a candidate with
>> a written plan that shows clearly what he/she stands for, what immediate
>> goals they have with a roadmap, what budget they propose to do it with and
>> what timeframe they have. Oh and the milestones to indicate their
>> progress along the way.
>>
>> Hmm..........NONE of them.........surprise surprise
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least
>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>> be important?
>>>
>>> Neil
>
>bullshit
Martin Harrington wrote:
> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If you
> don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
Martin Harrington wrote:
> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If you
> don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
Sarah wrote:
> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>
>
> S.
>
>
> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
>>> not in my lifetime.
>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>> be important?
>>
>> Neil
>
>hello,
i've got no option to use the c16 (black) in classic mode with 3.0. always
the c16pro.
did i miss something ?O.K. that was freakin funny
:0)
Rod
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>I wrote in Al Gore for county surveyor todaay.
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454c12f6$1@linux...
>>
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> >Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>> you
>> >don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>>
>> Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
>> not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
>> place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.
>>
>> Neil
>
>Go to the Project window and then to C-16 setup (under one of the pulldown
menu's, I'm not in front of it now so I can't say which one) un check all
the boxes.
Rod
"Damien Gelée" <damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>hello,
>
>i've got no option to use the c16 (black) in classic mode with 3.0. always
>the c16pro.
>did i miss something ?
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Elect me, I'm for puppies
FINALLY! Someone who's not anti-puppy! You've got my vote.
:)Hi All
Is there a proper method to installing FXpansion (DJ's zip) i.e. where do
you put it how do you access it blah de blah
The only reason I ask is the last time I tried to install it, it totally
hosed Paris requiring a complete reinstall.
Thanks
Don"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>I wonder what that complex cost. I want one!maybe if i win
>powerball..........
Man you don't wanna know how much, I'm sure... he's added to it
over the years. It started out as a bomb shelter back in the
cold-war (most of the rooms are partially underground) with
just the space that's now this room:
http://www.sonicranch.com/sta5trackmainroom.html
....and also what's now this room:
http://www.sonicranch.com/sta1controlroom.html
Then at various times it was a wine cellar & chinchilla
hatchery (hence when anything used to mysteriously go wrong
during a session we'd refer to it as "the spirit of the
chinchillas" causing it to happen). Then when Tony converted it
into a studio it was just the control room, the main room &
that upper room where the piano is. Later, when I was still
working there, is when he added the back room, that you can see
through the main room in the pictures on the first link, above
and also in a wider shot, here:
http://www.sonicranch.com/sta7trackbackroom.html
Then, maybe about five years ago, IIRC, he added this room:
http://www.sonicranch.com/sta6trackstoneroom.html
Then, in another building on the complex, added these areas:
http://www.sonicranch.com/stb1cntrlroom.html
http://www.sonicranch.com/stb2trackingroom.html
Then finally 2-3 years ago, started building this space:
http://www.sonicranch.com/bigtrackingroom1.html
Which kinda sat fully-constructed, but unfinished inside for
awhile - although they still used it for tracking an occasional
large thing or two, like a choir once, that I'm aware of, &
various other stuff if they needed a supplemental space (they
fed the signals into the main control room, since that area
didn't have one of it's own 'til recently). Then finally, a few
months ago, he finished off the control room for that space,
which is this:
http://www.sonicranch.com/neve1console.html
http://www.sonicranch.com/neve2monitoring.html
http://www.sonicranch.com/neve3outboarde.html
http://www.sonicranch.com/neve4controlroom.html
http://www.sonicranch.com/neve4controlroom2.html
Not bad for a little studio out in the middle of nowhere, huh?
NeilVery cool studio...I am jealous
Don
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454cb412$1@linux...
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>
>>I wonder what that complex cost. I want one!maybe if i win
>>powerball..........
>
> Man you don't wanna know how much, I'm sure... he's added to it
> over the years. It started out as a bomb shelter back in the
> cold-war (most of the rooms are partially underground) with
> just the space that's now this room:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta5trackmainroom.html
>
> ...and also what's now this room:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta1controlroom.html
>
> Then at various times it was a wine cellar & chinchilla
> hatchery (hence when anything used to mysteriously go wrong
> during a session we'd refer to it as "the spirit of the
> chinchillas" causing it to happen). Then when Tony converted it
> into a studio it was just the control room, the main room &
> that upper room where the piano is. Later, when I was still
> working there, is when he added the back room, that you can see
> through the main room in the pictures on the first link, above
> and also in a wider shot, here:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta7trackbackroom.html
>
> Then, maybe about five years ago, IIRC, he added this room:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta6trackstoneroom.html
>
> Then, in another building on the complex, added these areas:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/stb1cntrlroom.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/stb2trackingroom.html
>
> Then finally 2-3 years ago, started building this space:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/bigtrackingroom1.html
>
> Which kinda sat fully-constructed, but unfinished inside for
> awhile - although they still used it for tracking an occasional
> large thing or two, like a choir once, that I'm aware of, &
> various other stuff if they needed a supplemental space (they
> fed the signals into the main control room, since that area
> didn't have one of it's own 'til recently). Then finally, a few
> months ago, he finished off the control room for that space,
> which is this:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve1console.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve2monitoring.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve3outboarde.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve4controlroom.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve4controlroom2.html
>
>
> Not bad for a little studio out in the middle of nowhere, huh?
>
> Neilis the 1700 acre parcel his too?man it must be nice having rich freinds
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454cb412$1@linux...
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>
>>I wonder what that complex cost. I want one!maybe if i win
>>powerball..........
>
> Man you don't wanna know how much, I'm sure... he's added to it
> over the years. It started out as a bomb shelter back in the
> cold-war (most of the rooms are partially underground) with
> just the space that's now this room:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta5trackmainroom.html
>
> ...and also what's now this room:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta1controlroom.html
>
> Then at various times it was a wine cellar & chinchilla
> hatchery (hence when anything used to mysteriously go wrong
> during a session we'd refer to it as "the spirit of the
> chinchillas" causing it to happen). Then when Tony converted it
> into a studio it was just the control room, the main room &
> that upper room where the piano is. Later, when I was still
> working there, is when he added the back room, that you can see
> through the main room in the pictures on the first link, above
> and also in a wider shot, here:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta7trackbackroom.html
>
> Then, maybe about five years ago, IIRC, he added this room:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/sta6trackstoneroom.html
>
> Then, in another building on the complex, added these areas:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/stb1cntrlroom.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/stb2trackingroom.html
>
> Then finally 2-3 years ago, started building this space:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/bigtrackingroom1.html
>
> Which kinda sat fully-constructed, but unfinished inside for
> awhile - although they still used it for tracking an occasional
> large thing or two, like a choir once, that I'm aware of, &
> various other stuff if they needed a supplemental space (they
> fed the signals into the main control room, since that area
> didn't have one of it's own 'til recently). Then finally, a few
> months ago, he finished off the control room for that space,
> which is this:
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve1console.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve2monitoring.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve3outboarde.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve4controlroom.html
>
> http://www.sonicranch.com/neve4controlroom2.html
>
>
> Not bad for a little studio out in the middle of nowhere, huh?
>
> Neil"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>is the 1700 acre parcel his too?man it must be nice having rich freinds
Hey now, it's not like I get to use this place for free - he
cuts me a little break, yeah, but it's a business, you know?
And I gotta give him credit, he keeps the place booked.. when I
was asking about any weekend times coming up that might be
available, it was: "Well, we have this coming weekend, and then
nothing 'til February". How many studios can say that? So yeah,
he's got a few bucks, but it's not like this studio is just a
giant toybox for him, either.
NeilWhich hardware compressors & reverbs are better vs. Paris FX?
My question is about all level,from low cost Alesis to grand Lexicon 960.Well heck, Dick Cheney's brother is a surveyor in these parts and I figured
if he got elected he would give no bid contracts to Halliburton to suck
prarie dogs out of their burrows and send them to fight in Iraq since they
are probably smarter than the soldiers over there.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:454c9d5e$1@linux...
>
> O.K. that was freakin funny
> :0)
> Rod
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
> >I wrote in Al Gore for county surveyor todaay.
> >
> >
> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454c12f6$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >> >Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say
is..If
> >> you
> >> >don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
> >>
> >> Yes you do... you can complain that everyone sucked so bad that
> >> not a single one of 'em deserved your vote in the first
> >> place... which is about the point that I'm getting to.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >
> >
>The solution is damn simple JUST ERASE these freebies from Ensoing windows
directory !!
Never use them again.
It causes the the eds compressor and NoLimit to mute the audio and sometimes
to ditort the audio.
Hope this helps...
Regards,
DimitriosOk, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed them,
if anyone has questions, please ask.
Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.If you install it and it crashes paris, just open it again and click "full
reset" and exit. Paris should be fine after that.
Then find the offending plugin by adding one in at a time and running Paris
after each addition. Tedius, I know, but you'll find the problem.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi All
>
>Is there a proper method to installing FXpansion (DJ's zip) i.e. where do
>you put it how do you access it blah de blah
>
>The only reason I ask is the last time I tried to install it, it totally
>hosed Paris requiring a complete reinstall.
>
>Thanks
>
>Don
>
>
>Well Done!
Thats good to know.
respect
Nappy
P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
>is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
>4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
>As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
them,
>if anyone has questions, please ask.
>Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.Hi Mike,
This is really interesting , What is your setup ?
are you running Core 2 Duo ?
Mobo etc....
Thanks - and congratulations !!
Morgan
Mike P wrote:
> Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
> My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
> is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
> 4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
> As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed them,
> if anyone has questions, please ask.
> Thanks to everyone who helped along the way."Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
>is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
>4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
>As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
them,
>if anyone has questions, please ask.
>Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
I am very interested in any details you would like to share.
GeneHi Mike,
I read some of your other post's , and see this
an AMD rig.
I'd love to hear how this came together for you :)
Morgan
Morgan wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> This is really interesting , What is your setup ?
> are you running Core 2 Duo ?
> Mobo etc....
>
> Thanks - and congratulations !!
>
> Morgan
>
>
> Mike P wrote:
>
>> Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>> My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This
>> computer
>> is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have
>> taken
>> 4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs. As I have faced every error known to
>> man during this install, and fixed them,
>> if anyone has questions, please ask. Thanks to everyone who helped
>> along the way.
>
>Good stuff Mike, I believe your braking new ground for all of us. Please
give us some details of your new 'Paris rig on steroids'....!!
Rob
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:454cfa09$1@linux...
> 00
> "Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
> >
> >Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
> >My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This
computer
> >is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have
taken
> >4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
> >As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
> them,
> >if anyone has questions, please ask.
> >Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
>
>
> I am very interested in any details you would like to share.
> Gene
>So what did you do to fix it?
John
Mike P wrote:
> Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
> My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
> is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
> 4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
> As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed them,
> if anyone has questions, please ask.
> Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.Unfortunately when it crashed Paris I couldn't reopen it - unhandled
exception C000000005 or some such crap and then the infamous Black Screen
of Death
Muahahaha
Complete blowout and reinstall of Paris required
Don
"Mikep" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote in message news:454cf0c0$1@linux...
>
> If you install it and it crashes paris, just open it again and click "full
> reset" and exit. Paris should be fine after that.
> Then find the offending plugin by adding one in at a time and running
> Paris
> after each addition. Tedius, I know, but you'll find the problem.
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Hi All
>>
>>Is there a proper method to installing FXpansion (DJ's zip) i.e. where do
>
>>you put it how do you access it blah de blah
>>
>>The only reason I ask is the last time I tried to install it, it totally
>
>>hosed Paris requiring a complete reinstall.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>Did I mention my Cubase 4 and 2 Presonus Digimax FS's will be here
wednesday to hook to my RME 9652. hehe I hope this works!
Don Nafe wrote:
> Unfortunately when it crashed Paris I couldn't reopen it - unhandled
> exception C000000005 or some such crap and then the infamous Black Screen
> of Death
>
> Muahahaha
>
> Complete blowout and reinstall of Paris required
>
> Don
>
>
>
> "Mikep" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote in message news:454cf0c0$1@linux...
>> If you install it and it crashes paris, just open it again and click "full
>> reset" and exit. Paris should be fine after that.
>> Then find the offending plugin by adding one in at a time and running
>> Paris
>> after each addition. Tedius, I know, but you'll find the problem.
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Is there a proper method to installing FXpansion (DJ's zip) i.e. where do
>>> you put it how do you access it blah de blah
>>>
>>> The only reason I ask is the last time I tried to install it, it totally
>>> hosed Paris requiring a complete reinstall.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>Well, first I got the EDS cards on their own IRQ's but that didn't seem to
matter. I would still get transport "freeze". I even moved the cards to other
PCI slots and system info said they had no conflicts/sharing. The only way
to fix that is to change the system "mode" from ACPI to the second option
which is A.C.P.I. spelled out. For some reason this mode changes the IRQ's
from the previous 17&18 to 7&11 which gives them more "priority".
After that change I never had any transport problems.
The next problem was getting an error "paris.exe has caused a problem and
needs to close" on exit or switching between projects. I had seen this posted
before, but I never saw a fix for it. Well, here it is... It is a plugin
error. I installed each plugin one at a time and ran Paris after each install.
I go all my DX plugins in wihtout a problem, well except for a few Sonar
plugins that I had never used before, like the tts-1 and CWtuner. When I
went to install my VSTs that when I started getting the error. Paris didn't
like Amlitube and a couple other VSTs in wrapped with the fxpansion in XP.
I played around with adding/subtracting plugins in my VST folder, but Paris
just didn't like using the fxpansion wrapper in xp. Strangely enough, I was
able to create a folder I called "Paris VST" and copied my VST plugins into
and set the Paris VST path to this folder wihtout wrapping them, and it worked.
Paris is running both VST and DX natively.
Paris on a machine like this is awesome, I know my last computer was pretty
slow by today's standards, but it was optimized for audio apps and had quality
components, but this HP is running circles around the old cpu. Overviews
are calculated instantaneously, rendering is done before I can even open
the backround task window, and I can tons of plugins without any hint of
processor problems.
Hope this helps.
Here is my new system stats...
HP Media center 1540N
AMD x2 2.2 GHZ Dual core
2GIG DDR SDRAM
2000MHZ FSB
SATA 250GB 7200rpm HDD system
SATA 200GB 7200rpm HDD DATA
"Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
>is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
>4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
>As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
them,
>if anyone has questions, please ask.
>Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.'what' freebies?
You're saying to delete NoLimit?
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:454ce503$1@linux...
>
> The solution is damn simple JUST ERASE these freebies from Ensoing windows
> directory !!
> Never use them again.
> It causes the the eds compressor and NoLimit to mute the audio and
> sometimes
> to ditort the audio.
> Hope this helps...
> Regards,
> DimitriosCongrats !!! You slayed the giant. What an experience. But now that you're
up, make a ghost image in case of repeat. Nice job.
John
"Mke P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>
>Well, first I got the EDS cards on their own IRQ's but that didn't seem
to
>matter. I would still get transport "freeze". I even moved the cards to
other
>PCI slots and system info said they had no conflicts/sharing. The only way
>to fix that is to change the system "mode" from ACPI to the second option
>which is A.C.P.I. spelled out. For some reason this mode changes the IRQ's
>from the previous 17&18 to 7&11 which gives them more "priority".
>After that change I never had any transport problems.
>The next problem was getting an error "paris.exe has caused a problem and
>needs to close" on exit or switching between projects. I had seen this posted
>before, but I never saw a fix for it. Well, here it is... It is a plugin
>error. I installed each plugin one at a time and ran Paris after each install.
>I go all my DX plugins in wihtout a problem, well except for a few Sonar
>plugins that I had never used before, like the tts-1 and CWtuner. When I
>went to install my VSTs that when I started getting the error. Paris didn't
>like Amlitube and a couple other VSTs in wrapped with the fxpansion in XP.
>I played around with adding/subtracting plugins in my VST folder, but Paris
>just didn't like using the fxpansion wrapper in xp. Strangely enough, I
was
>able to create a folder I called "Paris VST" and copied my VST plugins into
>and set the Paris VST path to this folder wihtout wrapping them, and it
worked.
>Paris is running both VST and DX natively.
>Paris on a machine like this is awesome, I know my last computer was pretty
>slow by today's standards, but it was optimized for audio apps and had quality
>components, but this HP is running circles around the old cpu. Overviews
>are calculated instantaneously, rendering is done before I can even open
>the backround task window, and I can tons of plugins without any hint of
>processor problems.
>Hope this helps.
>Here is my new system stats...
>HP Media center 1540N
>AMD x2 2.2 GHZ Dual core
>2GIG DDR SDRAM
>2000MHZ FSB
>SATA 250GB 7200rpm HDD system
>SATA 200GB 7200rpm HDD DATA
>
>
>"Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>>My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
>>is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
>>4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
>>As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
>them,
>>if anyone has questions, please ask.
>>Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
>Good idea, I will, but have faith my son.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Congrats !!! You slayed the giant. What an experience. But now that you're
>up, make a ghost image in case of repeat. Nice job.
>
>John
>
>"Mke P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well, first I got the EDS cards on their own IRQ's but that didn't seem
>to
>>matter. I would still get transport "freeze". I even moved the cards to
>other
>>PCI slots and system info said they had no conflicts/sharing. The only
way
>>to fix that is to change the system "mode" from ACPI to the second option
>>which is A.C.P.I. spelled out. For some reason this mode changes the IRQ's
>>from the previous 17&18 to 7&11 which gives them more "priority".
>>After that change I never had any transport problems.
>>The next problem was getting an error "paris.exe has caused a problem and
>>needs to close" on exit or switching between projects. I had seen this
posted
>>before, but I never saw a fix for it. Well, here it is... It is a plugin
>>error. I installed each plugin one at a time and ran Paris after each install.
>>I go all my DX plugins in wihtout a problem, well except for a few Sonar
>>plugins that I had never used before, like the tts-1 and CWtuner. When
I
>>went to install my VSTs that when I started getting the error. Paris didn't
>>like Amlitube and a couple other VSTs in wrapped with the fxpansion in
XP.
>>I played around with adding/subtracting plugins in my VST folder, but Paris
>>just didn't like using the fxpansion wrapper in xp. Strangely enough, I
>was
>>able to create a folder I called "Paris VST" and copied my VST plugins
into
>>and set the Paris VST path to this folder wihtout wrapping them, and it
>worked.
>>Paris is running both VST and DX natively.
>>Paris on a machine like this is awesome, I know my last computer was pretty
>>slow by today's standards, but it was optimized for audio apps and had
quality
>>components, but this HP is running circles around the old cpu. Overviews
>>are calculated instantaneously, rendering is done before I can even open
>>the backround task window, and I can tons of plugins without any hint of
>>processor problems.
>>Hope this helps.
>>Here is my new system stats...
>>HP Media center 1540N
>>AMD x2 2.2 GHZ Dual core
>>2GIG DDR SDRAM
>>2000MHZ FSB
>>SATA 250GB 7200rpm HDD system
>>SATA 200GB 7200rpm HDD DATA
>>
>>
>>"Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>>>My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
>>>is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
>>>4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
>>>As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
>>them,
>>>if anyone has questions, please ask.
>>>Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
>>
>Hmm, a very intelligent reply.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7b12$1@linux...
> bullshit
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!A fine.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!I love the Paris EDS effects, but the reverb just
is not as good as a TC Electronic M3000. I think
the TC M3000 is the best out there for the money.
Still, all things considered, the Paris effects are
pretty amazing.
You may also want to try a Real Nice Compressor (RNC).
They are incredible for the price.
peace,
Chris
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>
>Which hardware compressors & reverbs are better vs. Paris FX?
>My question is about all level,from low cost Alesis to grand Lexicon 960.OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear huge
generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
Sarah
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>
> Sarah wrote:
>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>
>>
>> S.
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least
>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>> be important?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>Trust but verify ! hehe
"Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>
>Good idea, I will, but have faith my son.
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>Congrats !!! You slayed the giant. What an experience. But now that
you're
>>up, make a ghost image in case of repeat. Nice job.
>>
>>John
>>
>>"Mke P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Well, first I got the EDS cards on their own IRQ's but that didn't seem
>>to
>>>matter. I would still get transport "freeze". I even moved the cards to
>>other
>>>PCI slots and system info said they had no conflicts/sharing. The only
>way
>>>to fix that is to change the system "mode" from ACPI to the second option
>>>which is A.C.P.I. spelled out. For some reason this mode changes the IRQ's
>>>from the previous 17&18 to 7&11 which gives them more "priority".
>>>After that change I never had any transport problems.
>>>The next problem was getting an error "paris.exe has caused a problem
and
>>>needs to close" on exit or switching between projects. I had seen this
>posted
>>>before, but I never saw a fix for it. Well, here it is... It is a plugin
>>>error. I installed each plugin one at a time and ran Paris after each
install.
>>>I go all my DX plugins in wihtout a problem, well except for a few Sonar
>>>plugins that I had never used before, like the tts-1 and CWtuner. When
>I
>>>went to install my VSTs that when I started getting the error. Paris didn't
>>>like Amlitube and a couple other VSTs in wrapped with the fxpansion in
>XP.
>>>I played around with adding/subtracting plugins in my VST folder, but
Paris
>>>just didn't like using the fxpansion wrapper in xp. Strangely enough,
I
>>was
>>>able to create a folder I called "Paris VST" and copied my VST plugins
>into
>>>and set the Paris VST path to this folder wihtout wrapping them, and it
>>worked.
>>>Paris is running both VST and DX natively.
>>>Paris on a machine like this is awesome, I know my last computer was pretty
>>>slow by today's standards, but it was optimized for audio apps and had
>quality
>>>components, but this HP is running circles around the old cpu. Overviews
>>>are calculated instantaneously, rendering is done before I can even open
>>>the backround task window, and I can tons of plugins without any hint
of
>>>processor problems.
>>>Hope this helps.
>>>Here is my new system stats...
>>>HP Media center 1540N
>>>AMD x2 2.2 GHZ Dual core
>>>2GIG DDR SDRAM
>>>2000MHZ FSB
>>>SATA 250GB 7200rpm HDD system
>>>SATA 200GB 7200rpm HDD DATA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>>>>My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This
computer
>>>>is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have
taken
>>>>4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
>>>>As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
>>>them,
>>>>if anyone has questions, please ask.
>>>>Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
>>>
>>
>They all suck. NONE of them have any plans! I have better plans for building
a dog house than this bunch of idiots have? Which genius have I overlooked
?
Actually, I was going to build a dog house today and I did a complete plan
and did a cost list before I bought the materials and the house I was building
was going to be $200 so I bought one for $169 that suits me ok. So here
I am costing things out before I execute them. What a concept !!
John
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
>apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
>
> It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear huge
>generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
>who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
>ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
>because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
>enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
>
> And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
>still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
>lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
>
>Sarah
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
>> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>> least
>>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>>> be important?
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>
>Would like more words to help get the point across? For me one was plenty.
John
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Hmm, a very intelligent reply.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7b12$1@linux...
>> bullshit
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
>How stupid. So voting is like getting a rebate for something you don't want
to buy.
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>A fine.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
>> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
>Aaron, I believe he's talking about the freebie plugs Chuck came out with
early on. Chuck said himself not to use them (after he figured out they were
causing problems) No Limit is definiatly not one of these.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>'what' freebies?
>
>You're saying to delete NoLimit?
>
>AA
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:454ce503$1@linux...
>>
>> The solution is damn simple JUST ERASE these freebies from Ensoing windows
>> directory !!
>> Never use them again.
>> It causes the the eds compressor and NoLimit to mute the audio and
>> sometimes
>> to ditort the audio.
>> Hope this helps...
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>I'm glad you persisted Mike, well done.
You've raised the benchmark..
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Mike P" <mikep@4hometown.com> wrote in message news:454ceab3@linux...
>
> Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
> My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This
> computer
> is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
> 4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
> As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
> them,
> if anyone has questions, please ask.
> Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454d3225$1@linux...
>
>
> They all suck. NONE of them have any plans! I have better plans for
> building
> a dog house than this bunch of idiots have? Which genius have I
> overlooked
> ?
>
> Actually, I was going to build a dog house today and I did a complete plan
> and did a cost list before I bought the materials and the house I was
> building
> was going to be $200 so I bought one for $169 that suits me ok. So here
> I am costing things out before I execute them. What a concept !!
>
> John
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> OK, I really didn't think this would turn into a discussion, so I
>>apologize for that. But I just wanted to say one thing before I drop this.
>>
>> It's absurd to say "they're all . . . " anything. Whenever I hear
>> huge
>
>>generalities about any group of people, I figure I'm listening to someone
>
>>who simply doesn't want to really look a little deeper. There are honest,
>
>>ethical people in government, and if they're outnumbered it's precisely
>
>>because as fat, comfy Americans we have been apathetic and cynical long
>
>>enough to let the crooks and liars take over.
>>
>> And even if it was true that they're ALL bad, which it isn't, I would
>
>>still be saying, "Please vote," because sometimes choosing between the
>>lesser of two evils is a life or death decision.
>>
>>Sarah
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7be4$1@linux...
>>> not important. just picking from different groups of crooks
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> Of course. It might not be good, but important nevertheless. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454bf3ad$1@linux...
>>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>
>>>>>> least
>>>>>> not in my lifetime.
>>>>> But if I vote for all the candidates you oppose, will it still
>>>>> be important?
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>
>Yeah, I'm an idiot.
Martin Harrington wrote:
> Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
> You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
> Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.That's also been my experience but at this point they are 'all' freebies so
I want to make sure D didn't find something we've missed.. it's not like he
hasn't done that before :)
AA
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:454d3364$1@linux...
>
> Aaron, I believe he's talking about the freebie plugs Chuck came out with
> early on. Chuck said himself not to use them (after he figured out they
> were
> causing problems) No Limit is definiatly not one of these.
> Rod
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>'what' freebies?
>>
>>You're saying to delete NoLimit?
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:454ce503$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The solution is damn simple JUST ERASE these freebies from Ensoing
>>> windows
>>> directory !!
>>> Never use them again.
>>> It causes the the eds compressor and NoLimit to mute the audio and
>>> sometimes
>>> to ditort the audio.
>>> Hope this helps...
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>
>>
>So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13 slotters
seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do with
the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in the
towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without Ghost
.........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to be
accomplished or I will die..
;o)Heheh!!!! well.....I didn't die, but one of my mobo slots did.
Mmmmm!!!!!......smells like Behringer!!!!.
.........don't know............it might have been a defective host
card.......chassis........whatever, but the smell of fried electronics doth
permeate the control room right about now.
Lucky I've got a cheapo backup mobo cause this one is tres toasty! It still
works though. I'm just not going to be running any cards in PCI slot #3 from
now on.
;o)
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d5b2d@linux...
> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13
slotters
> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do with
> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in the
> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without Ghost
> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to be
> accomplished or I will die..
>
> ;o)
>
>
>Will the madness never end.
AA
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d6c9f@linux...
> Heheh!!!! well.....I didn't die, but one of my mobo slots did.
> Mmmmm!!!!!......smells like Behringer!!!!.
>
> ........don't know............it might have been a defective host
> card.......chassis........whatever, but the smell of fried electronics
> doth
> permeate the control room right about now.
>
> Lucky I've got a cheapo backup mobo cause this one is tres toasty! It
> still
> works though. I'm just not going to be running any cards in PCI slot #3
> from
> now on.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d5b2d@linux...
>> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13
> slotters
>> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do with
>> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in the
>> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without
>> Ghost
>> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
>> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to be
>> accomplished or I will die..
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>
>folks- particularly you California folk...
yes, many of the "politicians" are crooks. But they are in a system that
rewards them for being what they are. That's why they're there. The system
works for them. Not necessarily for us.
There's a proposition on the ballot in California, Prop 89, which would change
the system. "Politicians" are most often "telemarketers," using hours each
day to solicit money from folk who then have leverage over their actions.
Prop 89 destroys this connection by allowing folk with only grass roots support
to run a competitive campaign against big-money-backed candidates.
Impossible, you say? Similar systems are working at this moment elsewhere,
successfully. Most incumbents are against the idea, because, as I said, they
got where they are by using the system in place. The last thing they want
is more competition.
Likewise, those funding the current crop of elected officials are pretty
much against the idea, since they'd lose their leverage over said officials.
This makes the whole deal quite an uphill battle. Think of those dollars
flowing into the system...
Websites to check:
http://www.89now.org/
Bombastic but clever metaphorical video of the problem:
http://www.89now.org/media/pounding.php
I now return you to your regularly scheduled entertainment.
-steve
PS - another reason to vote is Debra Bowen, for CA Sec. of State. She's been
almost single handedly championing this proposition, as well as trying to
tackle the abominable hackable voting machine problem. She's very sharp.You make a good point here.
The other side is the problem millions of Californians have with being
taxed to pay for political ads for issues and candidates they would
never support.
This goes against may people's conscience.
The issue of money corrupting politics is totally true, yet, I don't
think this is the answer.
And yes, it is hard to get a campaign in gear without big corporate
supporters, but it certainly has been done. Remember prop 13?
I think the free market is the best solution here, not more taxes.
Just a thought.
DC
"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>folks- particularly you California folk...
>
>yes, many of the "politicians" are crooks. But they are in a system that
>rewards them for being what they are. That's why they're there. The system
>works for them. Not necessarily for us.
>
>There's a proposition on the ballot in California, Prop 89, which would
change
>the system. "Politicians" are most often "telemarketers," using hours each
>day to solicit money from folk who then have leverage over their actions.
>Prop 89 destroys this connection by allowing folk with only grass roots
support
>to run a competitive campaign against big-money-backed candidates.
>
>Impossible, you say? Similar systems are working at this moment elsewhere,
>successfully. Most incumbents are against the idea, because, as I said,
they
>got where they are by using the system in place. The last thing they want
>is more competition.
>
>Likewise, those funding the current crop of elected officials are pretty
>much against the idea, since they'd lose their leverage over said officials.
>This makes the whole deal quite an uphill battle. Think of those dollars
>flowing into the system...
>
>Websites to check:
>
>http://www.89now.org/
>
>Bombastic but clever metaphorical video of the problem:
>
>http://www.89now.org/media/pounding.php
>
>I now return you to your regularly scheduled entertainment.
>
>-steve
>
>PS - another reason to vote is Debra Bowen, for CA Sec. of State. She's
been
>almost single handedly championing this proposition, as well as trying to
>tackle the abominable hackable voting machine problem. She's very sharp.And a pint of American beer...
heh heh
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>A fine.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
>> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>>
>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>
>Hi Guys, I've been rebuilding my original rig which has run for years, I
kept the same setup same slots etc, but i get this error code 70/46, so I
reinstalled software just on one card and it was fine, put the other card in
and error again.... so i reinstall with both cards and MEC attached etc, and
hey presto it works, so i put back my USB card and here comes the error.
i've searched archives and this is one error I couldn't find, but I did find
a bunch I never new about.
Thanks in advance.
Russ
PS I always log in for read at what DJ is burning next, or wether his puter
has taken over the valley. I just never really have anything to say.
till now :o)"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>You make a good point here.
>
>The other side is the problem millions of Californians have with being
>taxed to pay for political ads for issues and candidates they would
>never support.
>
>This goes against may people's conscience.
>
>The issue of money corrupting politics is totally true, yet, I don't
>think this is the answer.
>
>And yes, it is hard to get a campaign in gear without big corporate
>supporters, but it certainly has been done. Remember prop 13?
>I think the free market is the best solution here, not more taxes.
>
>Just a thought.
>
>DC
And you have a great point there as well, Don. No one like being taxed for
things they don't want. But you already are, if you think about it.
I see where it was estimated that Arnold's special election cost $300million.
Where did that money come from?
Right now, contributing to candidates is the best investment an industry
can make. Thousands in contributions can and do result in millions in benefits.
Arnold said it best himself when he was running - ''special interests have
a stranglehold. The money comes in, favors go out, the people lose.''
Have you seen what is proposed in prop 89? I seem to recall that it works
out to about $5 or $6 per person.
from the prop 89 website: (in their FAQ)
"Prop 89 does not raise individual taxpayers’ taxes. Funding comes from an
increase in the corporate tax equal to 20 cents for every $100 of profit
(0.2%). This would restore the corporate tax rate to a figure lower than
it was from 1980 to 1996. Individuals and the vast majority of small businesses
will pay nothing."
Folk tend to pay attention to those who writes them their biggest checks.
It's only human. Campaign costs are hugely larger than elected official's
salaries. Wouldn't you rather they work for you than for the folks who subsidize
their campaigns the way things are now?
And here's the clincher. Follow the money. Guess where it comes from now?
You. You're paying it now. You just don't realize it.
You buy services from industries who then take the money and buy influence
with candidates. With your money.
The two most significant changes in states where this system is used are
1) non-rich or non-connected folk have actually entered and won elections,
and
2) the total amount of money in campaigns has actually gone DOWN.
-steve
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>
>>folks- particularly you California folk...
>>
>>yes, many of the "politicians" are crooks. But they are in a system that
>>rewards them for being what they are. That's why they're there. The system
>>works for them. Not necessarily for us.
>>
>>There's a proposition on the ballot in California, Prop 89, which would
>change
>>the system. "Politicians" are most often "telemarketers," using hours each
>>day to solicit money from folk who then have leverage over their actions.
>>Prop 89 destroys this connection by allowing folk with only grass roots
>support
>>to run a competitive campaign against big-money-backed candidates.
>>
>>Impossible, you say? Similar systems are working at this moment elsewhere,
>>successfully. Most incumbents are against the idea, because, as I said,
>they
>>got where they are by using the system in place. The last thing they want
>>is more competition.
>>
>>Likewise, those funding the current crop of elected officials are pretty
>>much against the idea, since they'd lose their leverage over said officials.
>>This makes the whole deal quite an uphill battle. Think of those dollars
>>flowing into the system...
>>
>>Websites to check:
>>
>>http://www.89now.org/
>>
>>Bombastic but clever metaphorical video of the problem:
>>
>>http://www.89now.org/media/pounding.php
>>
>>I now return you to your regularly scheduled entertainment.
>>
>>-steve
>>
>>PS - another reason to vote is Debra Bowen, for CA Sec. of State. She's
>been
>>almost single handedly championing this proposition, as well as trying
to
>>tackle the abominable hackable voting machine problem. She's very sharp.
>You're not an idiot John,
but.......................................arghhhh!!!!! Never mind;-)
I mean it's a good idea to vote, trying to change America a bit for the
worlds sake. We can all be small wheels helping the bigger ones to go around
and make a better world for us all, whereever we're living in our great,
little world of today. Especially when we have got the choice to vote, where
so many good people around the world have fighted for up against the years.
We have all heard the words "Human Rights" up against the years, but how
many of us are doing something with it? Sarah is one of them trying to do
something, where some other better wish to build or buy a doghouse for their
own world;-)
erlilo
"John" <no@no.com> skrev i melding news:454d45c4@linux...
> Yeah, I'm an idiot.
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Why don't you submit yourself for public office, John.
>> You might even be able to change the world, but wait, you could never get
>> Paris working properly, so maybe that's not such a great idea either.He he yes..
The freebies Chuck has once released is causing this and not NoLimit !
For the ones who have this eds compressor and NoLimit problem this is a Nopain
solution!!
Cheers,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>The solution is damn simple JUST ERASE these freebies from Ensoing windows
>directory !!
>Never use them again.
>It causes the the eds compressor and NoLimit to mute the audio and sometimes
>to ditort the audio.
>Hope this helps...
>Regards,
>DimitriosI went to the sec of state site and read their summary of the initiative.
There are parts I like, but some I do not.
It is here:
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm#2006General
Here are a couple of comments:
✔ Contribution Restrictions for State Ballot Measures
• Places new limits on contributions to candidates’
efforts to support or oppose ballot measures.
I am nervous about this. Giving money is one way of expressing my opinion.
It is a form of free speech. I'm not sure we should restrict this.
• Places new limits on contributions from
corporations to support or oppose ballot
measures.
Wait a minute. If your company is targeted for more taxes, as tobacco and
oil companies are in other meaures, is it fair to limit your ability to respond
effectively? Is that not a form of taxation without representation?
Surely we can conceive of bad laws written against even companies we do not
like can't we? Should we muzzle those most affected by legislation?
✔ Higher Corporate Taxes
• Increases tax rate on corporations and financial
institutions. For corporations, tax rate would
increase from 8.84 percent to 9.04 percent. For
financial institutions, tax rate would increase from
10.84 percent to 11.04 percent.
Checked out the number of companies leaving CA recently?
My own brother had to leave San Diego and move to Indiana because of
ill-conceived environmental laws and brutal taxes in his industry. The
entire
industry (furniture manufacture) is extinct in CA.
Now we see him once a year, and the companies are polluting worse than
they were! We need a more welcoming business climate here, not higher
taxes.
And even if my cost is 5 bucks, I do not want to give one nickel without
consent.
There are plenty of problems with the current system, but I am not sold on
this
solution.
DCIf noone wants the Pulsar II card I can keep this and sell the Pulsar I with
the following software:
Pulsar Software
Scope Fusion Platform
Main Studiotools Package
Effects Package 1
Synthesizer Package 1
Synthesizer Package 2
VolksZämpler SFP
STS-2000P
As soon as this card get registered you can download the Scope 4 version.
Selling for 250 $
Regards,
Dimitriosgosh mr. disgusto, that's one amazing story.
bottoms up
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:48:51 -0700, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>I was crawling out of a bordello one night in Tijuana after getting a mezcal
>enema and I looked up from the slop trench I was laying in and saw a rat
>that reminded me of my 5th grade teacher who used to take these fishooks and
>.......uhhhh.....wait!!!!, what time it is???....where's my coffee????
>
>;oP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:lmhmk21h267c8ik1a3t81nopn8a2077taj@4ax.com...
>> had to hit that vodka to calm my shattered...something...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:04:15 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>> >That is unbelievable rick! You guys must have been amazed!
>> >
>> >rick wrote:
>> >> ain't that the truth. we were out trick or treating with the
>> >> granddaughter and family when our daughter runs into a woman she
>> >> hasn't seen in 35 years when she was 5. how the hell they recognized
>> >> each other i'll never know.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:28:37 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So, Dale Bradley decides to buy my C16. Yay. Turns out he's from
>Eugene
>> >>> Oregon. Hey, I lived there once on Sherwood Place. Turns out he has
>a
>> >>> brother on Sherwood Place. Hey, my landlord's name was Bradley.
>> >>>
>> >>> His DAD was my landlord for 4 years from 88 to 92 and it's his
>brothers
>> >>> house and are great people! FAWK !
>> >>>
>> >>> I have these amazing coincedences about 3 or 4 times a year and this
>one
>> >>> takes the cake. I call them brief religious experiences. Wild !
>> >>
>>
>no wonder why you're so stubborn.
On 4 Nov 2006 08:38:09 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinCanada.eh> wrote:
>Anything but that...except some of course...
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DC" <dc@spammersinsydney.org> wrote in message news:454d8a6b$1@linux...
>
> And a pint of American beer...
>
> heh heh
>
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>A fine.
>>--
>>Martin Harrington
>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454c7bc0$1@linux...
>>> compulsory? what do they do if you dont' vote?
>>>
>>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>>> Coming from a country that has compulsory voting...all I can say is..If
>
>>>> you don't vote, you have no right to complain about what you get !!
>>
>>
>I love that youthful optimism.
steve the artguy wrote:
> folks- particularly you California folk...
>
> yes, many of the "politicians" are crooks. But they are in a system that
> rewards them for being what they are. That's why they're there. The system
> works for them. Not necessarily for us.
>
> There's a proposition on the ballot in California, Prop 89, which would change
> the system. "Politicians" are most often "telemarketers," using hours each
> day to solicit money from folk who then have leverage over their actions.
> Prop 89 destroys this connection by allowing folk with only grass roots support
> to run a competitive campaign against big-money-backed candidates.
>
> Impossible, you say? Similar systems are working at this moment elsewhere,
> successfully. Most incumbents are against the idea, because, as I said, they
> got where they are by using the system in place. The last thing they want
> is more competition.
>
> Likewise, those funding the current crop of elected officials are pretty
> much against the idea, since they'd lose their leverage over said officials.
> This makes the whole deal quite an uphill battle. Think of those dollars
> flowing into the system...
>
> Websites to check:
>
> http://www.89now.org/
>
> Bombastic but clever metaphorical video of the problem:
>
> http://www.89now.org/media/pounding.php
>
> I now return you to your regularly scheduled entertainment.
>
> -steve
>
> PS - another reason to vote is Debra Bowen, for CA Sec. of State. She's been
> almost single handedly championing this proposition, as well as trying to
> tackle the abominable hackable voting machine problem. She's very sharp.Thanks Chris
zmora
"Chris Lang" <yo@yo.yo> wrote:
>
>I love the Paris EDS effects, but the reverb just
>is not as good as a TC Electronic M3000. I think
>the TC M3000 is the best out there for the money.
>
>Still, all things considered, the Paris effects are
>pretty amazing.
>
>You may also want to try a Real Nice Compressor (RNC).
>They are incredible for the price.
>
>peace,
>
>Chris
>
>
>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>Which hardware compressors & reverbs are better vs. Paris FX?
>>My question is about all level,from low cost Alesis to grand Lexicon 960.
>And just in time for elections ! That's it, the terrorist lose! Ok we
can all go home now. Great TV coverage by the way. It was wonderful to
see all the drivel like Mark Folley covered instead of this trial. Oh
yeah, we don't need no details, just a verdict please. Ok enough of
this, time for more John Kerry jokes.
JohnHi All
If I want to do the equivilant of rendering without plugs or Nuendo
dynamics, level or pan settings how do I do this?
reason: I've got a slew of little bits and pieces all over the place and
need a "0" start point as Paris won't read the time stamp on these files
DonFirst, thanks for help i got from this newsgroup : it allowed me to built
this first paris XP rig without fighting much.
So now, if someguys are looking for information to upgrade, or start, here
are my two cents :
after a few days of use, no crash. For sure, it's easyer to make cubase
running , cause you don't have to read forums and parisfaq. but if you plan
to use paris, it can work almost like every DAW.
SO :
one MEC, no modules, one EDS, C16classic.
Hardware :
- MSI neo2 platinium (nforce3ultra chipset). ==> this one is a goooood mobo
for audio apps.
- athlon 64+,
- AGP nvidia (MX440) graphic
- one 7200 rpm IDE drive, alone on his controller.
- another card (Maudio audiophile)
- the EDS was first sharing IRQ 19 with graphic nvidia app, it was running,
but i put it on a non shared IRQ anyway.
Software :
- windows2000 sp4 last directX version, just audio app.
- paris 30 and FX subsystem installed direct under C:\
- wave bundle (C:\program file etc)
- SIR and blockfish dll under C: not wrapped for the moment
some little things to fix :
- it does'nt like blockfish comp : i had a 'diskslow error' with only 5
tracks (!!) at the moment i turn it on. i increaseed IO @ 96K and cache @ 40
Mb and it was OK, but blockfish is looks looks a no no
- when i quit paris, it close normally, but paris.exe still run. The system
does not freeze and is usable, until i try to kill paris, or to reboot
normally : on/off reboot required. It does not occur if i quit paris
without having worked on a project.
- TP queue error if i turn jog when paris is playing : just a "close / open"
project is required in that case.
I have no opinion for the moment about the way it sounds, in comparaison
with standard native DAW, but i fell good with it. CPU and memory are not
stressed (but the projects are very light for the moment) even with 4 SIR
running. good !If it's like SX in that regard your'e probably going to need to
give each file a start point idential to the start point of the
earliest file... IOW, arm each track that starts later than the
earliest one starts & record just a second or so of blank
audio - you can do this all at once, of course; just arm all
the tracks that this pertains to & hit record for a second or
two. Make sure you zoom all the way in no the earliest track as
a reference & set your start point same as the start of that
trackfile. Then, you can deselect/bypass all the plugin's & EQ's
(you don't have to do this one at a time, you can do it in the
Inspector window off to the left), and then click & drag across
a given track's audio files so that they're all
selected/highlighted & then right-click on it, then go
to "audio", then "bounce selection" - it'll turn all the
segments into one file called "bounce lead vocal" or whatever
you named the channel, it'll just have the word "bounce" in
front of the filename. You can also select several channels'
worth of audio segments at once & it'll just do them
sequentially - just make sure they're adjacent channels, or if
they're not adjacent to each other, use either "shift" or CRTL
(I forget which) while selecting, and that way you can skip
over channels that may not need to be rendered like this.
It'll fill in any gaps with blank space & give you one
continuous file per track.
Then when you're importing the files, just look in the audio
folder for the files named "Bounce Lead Vocal", Bounce
Guitar1", etc, plus the ones that you didn't have to render
(the ones that started at the actual "start point" of the song.
Keep in mind this is SX I'm referring to, there might be some
slight diffrences in Nuendo, but from what I keep hearing
they're so similar you could probably just check these steps
before you proceed just to make sure, then go for it.
Neil
<Dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi All
>
>If I want to do the equivilant of rendering without plugs or Nuendo
>dynamics, level or pan settings how do I do this?
>
>reason: I've got a slew of little bits and pieces all over the place and
>need a "0" start point as Paris won't read the time stamp on these files
>
>Don
>
>Thanks Neil
will give you're ideas a go
Don
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454e0dcc$1@linux...
>
> If it's like SX in that regard your'e probably going to need to
> give each file a start point idential to the start point of the
> earliest file... IOW, arm each track that starts later than the
> earliest one starts & record just a second or so of blank
> audio - you can do this all at once, of course; just arm all
> the tracks that this pertains to & hit record for a second or
> two. Make sure you zoom all the way in no the earliest track as
> a reference & set your start point same as the start of that
> trackfile. Then, you can deselect/bypass all the plugin's & EQ's
> (you don't have to do this one at a time, you can do it in the
> Inspector window off to the left), and then click & drag across
> a given track's audio files so that they're all
> selected/highlighted & then right-click on it, then go
> to "audio", then "bounce selection" - it'll turn all the
> segments into one file called "bounce lead vocal" or whatever
> you named the channel, it'll just have the word "bounce" in
> front of the filename. You can also select several channels'
> worth of audio segments at once & it'll just do them
> sequentially - just make sure they're adjacent channels, or if
> they're not adjacent to each other, use either "shift" or CRTL
> (I forget which) while selecting, and that way you can skip
> over channels that may not need to be rendered like this.
> It'll fill in any gaps with blank space & give you one
> continuous file per track.
> Then when you're importing the files, just look in the audio
> folder for the files named "Bounce Lead Vocal", Bounce
> Guitar1", etc, plus the ones that you didn't have to render
> (the ones that started at the actual "start point" of the song.
>
> Keep in mind this is SX I'm referring to, there might be some
> slight diffrences in Nuendo, but from what I keep hearing
> they're so similar you could probably just check these steps
> before you proceed just to make sure, then go for it.
>
> Neil
>
>
> <Dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Hi All
>>
>>If I want to do the equivilant of rendering without plugs or Nuendo
>>dynamics, level or pan settings how do I do this?
>>
>>reason: I've got a slew of little bits and pieces all over the place and
>
>>need a "0" start point as Paris won't read the time stamp on these files
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>Don,
Probably the simplest way would be to select all of the events on that
track, glue them together (glue tool) into a single part, drag the start of
that part to 00:00 if necessary (just be sure the selection tool isn't on
time compress/expand or move contents). Select the part, and right click to
Audio - Bounce Selection. This will create a new audio event in the pool,
without plugins.
Regards,
Dedric
On 11/5/06 8:45 AM, in article 454e04e9$1@linux, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca>
wrote:
> Hi All
>
> If I want to do the equivilant of rendering without plugs or Nuendo
> dynamics, level or pan settings how do I do this?
>
> reason: I've got a slew of little bits and pieces all over the place and
> need a "0" start point as Paris won't read the time stamp on these files
>
> Don
>
>Hi Mike,
Congrats on your hard work . Today I was
doing homework with my son Logan.
His assignment was to define " Hero "
One that acts with courage and bravery despite
overwhelming odds.
Mike - you are now My Hero !!
Respectfully Yours ,
Morgan :)
Mike P wrote:
> Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
> My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
> is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
> 4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
> As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed them,
> if anyone has questions, please ask.
> Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.John <no@no.com> wrote:
>And just in time for elections ! That's it, the terrorist lose! Ok we
>can all go home now.
Yes, now if suddenly in tomorrow mornings' news cycle we hear
that Osama Bin Laden has "just been captured", we'll know the
fix was in & he's been sitting in a cell somewhere for the past
ten months or so.
NeilYep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Sarah wrote:
> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at least
> not in my lifetime.
>
> Love,
>
> Sarah
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
hehe,
John
Jamie K wrote:
>
> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Sarah wrote:
>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>> least not in my lifetime.
>>
>> Love,
>>
>> Sarah
>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>They're saving him and Wesley Snipes for the 2008 elections. hehe
Neil wrote:
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> And just in time for elections ! That's it, the terrorist lose! Ok we
>
>> can all go home now.
>
> Yes, now if suddenly in tomorrow mornings' news cycle we hear
> that Osama Bin Laden has "just been captured", we'll know the
> fix was in & he's been sitting in a cell somewhere for the past
> ten months or so.
>
> NeilDon-
two things.
1) What are corporations composed of? People.
If people choose to voluntarily run under the limits of 89, people are free
to spend up a limit. The thing that makes this legal is that it is completely
VOLUNTARY. Even if 89 passes, you as an individual are under it's rules only
if you choose to be. If you choose to run as everyone does now, nothing stops
you from spending the farm on whatever you want.
And everyone is welcome to make PACs, even as they do now, to finance certain
things of interest.
If corporations are limited, but the people who compose them are able to
spend however they want, I don't see how your free speech is limited. I know
all about the "corporations are people" thing. Nonetheless, people are also
people, and they can do as they wish, even under 89.
Ok. So oil and tobacco companies are attacked by propositions. The peope
in those companies can respond and support whatever they want, like you and
I can. No limit.
As an aside, right now the deck is stacked so badly in favor of corporations
(they are immortal, they have rights of people without many of the responsibilities,
they are legally obligated to do anything necessary to make a buck) that
89 just gives back a little of the leverage to real people that has been
usurped by corporations over the years.
2) The higher taxes, slight though they may be, are of course a concern.
But election costs (mostly media buys) and benefits to corporate donors (currently
over $200 per person in CA) are presently coming from the public, in higher
costs in everything, passed along to the consumer.
What is better? Paying corporations who then buy the government, (in return
for, in some cases, huge benefits) or just paying the officials ourselves?
Thanks for taking the time to consider these things.
-steveThanks for inferring that I and "youthful" have anything in common.
It is appreciated. Nostalgiac, even.
-steve
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I love that youthful optimism.
>
>steve the artguy wrote:
>> folks- particularly you California folk...
>>
>> yes, many of the "politicians" are crooks. But they are in a system that
>> rewards them for being what they are. That's why they're there. The system
>> works for them. Not necessarily for us.
>>
>> There's a proposition on the ballot in California, Prop 89, which would
change
>> the system. "Politicians" are most often "telemarketers," using hours
each
>> day to solicit money from folk who then have leverage over their actions.
>> Prop 89 destroys this connection by allowing folk with only grass roots
support
>> to run a competitive campaign against big-money-backed candidates.
>>
>> Impossible, you say? Similar systems are working at this moment elsewhere,
>> successfully. Most incumbents are against the idea, because, as I said,
they
>> got where they are by using the system in place. The last thing they want
>> is more competition.
>>
>> Likewise, those funding the current crop of elected officials are pretty
>> much against the idea, since they'd lose their leverage over said officials.
>> This makes the whole deal quite an uphill battle. Think of those dollars
>> flowing into the system...
>>
>> Websites to check:
>>
>> http://www.89now.org/
>>
>> Bombastic but clever metaphorical video of the problem:
>>
>> http://www.89now.org/media/pounding.php
>>
>> I now return you to your regularly scheduled entertainment.
>>
>> -steve
>>
>> PS - another reason to vote is Debra Bowen, for CA Sec. of State. She's
been
>> almost single handedly championing this proposition, as well as trying
to
>> tackle the abominable hackable voting machine problem. She's very sharp.John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>
>I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>
>
>hehe,
>John
>
That’s fine. In the last few national elections many people with progressive
ideas stayed home because they felt they had no good options. As a result,
we have handed the country to people that “I” think are crooks, incompetent
and worse. I can only hope that this time the other side stays home by the
millions. To all my conservative Paris friends: Please pass on this election,
and the next. There are no good choices for you.
GeneI'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
plan ready for scrutiny. Do you know of any? hmmmmm
Gene Lennon wrote:
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>
> That’s fine. In the last few national elections many people with progressive
> ideas stayed home because they felt they had no good options. As a result,
> we have handed the country to people that “I” think are crooks, incompetent
> and worse. I can only hope that this time the other side stays home by the
> millions. To all my conservative Paris friends: Please pass on this election,
> and the next. There are no good choices for you.
> Gene
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>plan ready for scrutiny. Do you know of any? hmmmmm
>
John,
If you think I believe the Dems have a perfect plan and will make everything
swell, you are sadly mistaken. I believe the Democrats will have their share
of crooks and liars, including plenty of pocket lining old school fat cats.
Even so they will be FAR better.
It is sad that we always have to choose between the “Lesser Of Two Evils”,
but it is the nature of our two-party system. However… this is the worst
and most dangerous administration in the modern era and they have to go.
I only hope my vote will actually be counted.
GeneActually I may be spending Election Day hiding indoors.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061105/D8L74U4O0.htmlI've recently picked up a couple Nvidia NVS 280 video cards. I'm not seeing
my second monitor when I run the cards with the DVI splitter cable and DVI
into both monitors. The second monitor never detects any signal, even at
boot up. Interestingly, if I put a DVI to VGA adapter on the second DVI
out connector and run the signal into the monitor as analog I CAN see the
second monitor.
Everything else works. Dual mode in analog (VGA) has no problems. I've
checked the monitors, the cables, etc., all the parts work. I loaded the
latest drivers from Nvidia, no change. I have two of the DVI splitter cables
and they both give the same result. I have two of the NVS 280 cards and
they both work the same too.
I've found one post via Google where someone was discussing this problem
and found the special DVI splitter cable was the issue. I have Molex splitters,
both VGA and DVI. He had a PNY version of the card and found that he needed
a PNY splitter. My cards just say Nvidia, though I know that they're sold
through PNY, HP, Compact, and others.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
RichOn 31 Oct 2006 08:15:59 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Buying Apple hardware and putting XP on it is like buying a Bentley and retrofitting
>it with 4.0 vinyl seats (running SP5), tearing out the CD player and putting
>in an AM radio with 3.1 sound, installing 4 cylinder engine from a 1995 Civic,
>and then roughing up the paint job.
My MacBook Pro will be here tomorrow.
I'm loading XP under Parallels on it as soon as it's up and running
and all updated on the Tiger side.
Why?
Because I have apps that are Windoze-only that I need to run, even
when I'm away from the house.
I look at it as a replacement for my Powerbook G3 Pismo and my
ThinkPad all in one shiny box.
In the studio/office, I have both an Athlon/XP box and a dual G4/Tiger
box. I have reasons for both.
I couldn't travel with my Powerbook, because DeLorme's gps
software/hardware combo won't run on PPC Macs. That's the killer app
that kept me lugging my Thinkpad on trips. That, plus a few other
apps.
Now, I can run the gps stuff under XP on a virtual machine, and then
run OSX for almost everything else. And when I'm at a race with the
team I'm webmaster for, I can run my copy of Adobe GoLive CS2, which I
only have in Windoze flavor, and do updates while I'm there.
It's a best of both worlds thing, not "XP running on a Bentley". It's
more like having a Bentley with two different engines that you can
choose with a little pushbutton, dependin on what you need at the
time.
pabYou know John, I hear you! Maybe you should run for office?
The problem I see is this: people are for the most part pretty stupid.
Shocking, I know. Who in this country would actually read a detailed plan
of action? I think if there were enough people who demand that (over say
probably the meager 15% who care) that might happen. But that doesn't sound
like the US to me...
Who actually cares about anything if nothing really touches their daily lives?
At what point does your average citizen stand up and go to the streets?
I'm really amazed at our populace's (and my own) ability to sit comfortably
watching TV. But if you don't have a draft touching you, or if you don't
think your privacy counts for anything, then no one really cares. Sad, really.
But I feel like my own voice is pretty drowned out by complacency...
I also hope my vote is counted, even if I can't stand most of the people
I'm voting for. Would our election process stand up to world scrutiny?
No. There has to be a better way.
Oh, and while I'm on a rant, I can't stand that horrible John Mellencamp
"song" Chevrolet is hawking on TV. Oh, right, rural white dudes own the
country. We've come so far!
So, how many of us here are still using Paris?
Peace,
Graham (who is probably stupid too)
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>plan ready for scrutiny. Do you know of any? hmmmmm"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>1) What are corporations composed of? People.
>
>If people choose to voluntarily run under the limits of 89, people are free
>to spend up a limit. The thing that makes this legal is that it is completely
>VOLUNTARY. Even if 89 passes, you as an individual are under it's rules
only
>if you choose to be. If you choose to run as everyone does now, nothing
stops
>you from spending the farm on whatever you want.
We should also be concerned about the huge advantage millionaires have in
running for office. Almost no one else can run anymore.
scary..
>If corporations are limited, but the people who compose them are able to
>spend however they want, I don't see how your free speech is limited. I
know
>all about the "corporations are people" thing. Nonetheless, people are also
>people, and they can do as they wish, even under 89.
Yes, but it is not the individuals that are under attack by some of these
initiatives, it is the company, at least directly. The company ought to
be able to respond without having to overcome a legislated disadavantage.
Yes, there are downsides to this. Even conservatives who really do believe
in right and wrong most of the time, had a huge slap in the face with Randy
Cunningham didn't they? Money buys power. You have a real point in what
you say. I am just not sure this prop will fix the problem.
DCThe 55 ones dont sound as good as the 600 ones...
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:453fa913@linux...
>
> What other ones?
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> j-cron wrote:
>> They sound ok. Not as good as the other ones.
>>
>> "Ab" <ab.vangoor@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:453ea17b$1@linux...
>>> You can't go wrong with the K240S. I use it all the time as well in the
>>> studio
>>> as
>>> at home. Great value for the money.
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>> Ab
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> I hear you Deej, I'm half dead now. My left side has gone numb. Or is
>>>> it
>>>> my right side?
>>>>
>>>> Plus, I have a Powerplay Pro-XL that I haven't been able to kill, and
>>>> now it may never die...
>>>>
>>>> I guess I'll just get the K240S and see if the numbness goes away, but
>>>> the headset amp is probably safe now.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> I don't know who works on these but without my older (600 ohm)
>>>>> K240DF's
>>> I
>>>>> would die.......plus....you can kill Behringer headphone amps with
>>>>> these
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;op
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:453daccc@linux...
>>>>>> My formerly trusty AKG K240DF headset no longer gives me a left
>>>>>> channel.
>>>>>> The jack wiring seems OK, so the problem is somewhere in the headset
>>>>> itself.
>>>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A) A good place to fix it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B) A good reference headset at around the same price?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The K240S is the current AKG model at $99. Lower impedance at 55
>>>>>> instead
>>>>>> of 600 ohms. Any opinions on those?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinsacremento.com> wrote:
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>>1) What are corporations composed of? People.
>>
>>If people choose to voluntarily run under the limits of 89, people are
free
>>to spend up a limit. The thing that makes this legal is that it is completely
>>VOLUNTARY. Even if 89 passes, you as an individual are under it's rules
>only
>>if you choose to be. If you choose to run as everyone does now, nothing
>stops
>>you from spending the farm on whatever you want.
>
>We should also be concerned about the huge advantage millionaires have in
>running for office. Almost no one else can run anymore.
>
>scary..
>
you need to research 89 just a little bit more. The whole concept is to make
it possible for folks -- like us, perhaps -- to run competitively against
millionaires. Really.
You get an amount of money. If your opponent outspends you, you get a matching
amount until your amount is doubled. If he outspends you again, you get another
matching amount. This goes on for several rounds, depending on what office
you're running for.
It's not enough to match a millionaire, necessarily. But it is enough to
make a competitive race in something like 98% of races, historically.
The beauty of this system is that it prevents millionaires or others from
thinking they can walk off with the race by burying you in money. The historic
effect where it has been put in place has been to actually decrease the amount
of money spent, and increase the amount of actual debating and talking issues.
>>If corporations are limited, but the people who compose them are able
to
>>spend however they want, I don't see how your free speech is limited. I
>know
>>all about the "corporations are people" thing. Nonetheless, people are
also
>>people, and they can do as they wish, even under 89.
>
>Yes, but it is not the individuals that are under attack by some of these
>initiatives, it is the company, at least directly. The company ought to
>be able to respond without having to overcome a legislated disadavantage.
I still don't get it. The corporation is not a "real" entity. It doesn't
suffer pain or embarassment, or hunger or pride. It cannot be "attacked"
as if it were a city state. It is a legal construct. The parts of it which
CAN be attacked are the HUMANS, and they can respond as any other humans
do.
Why should a corporation be able to do anything other than what it's constituent
people can do? I don't get it. I think this whole concept of corporations
being "things" other than legal constructs is key to many of our problems.
Suppose you made a great big mask. Suppose you said that this mask was what
you were going to use to do business. People would see this mask and know
they were going to get good products or service. People would give money
to the mask, but of course the money would go to you, and you would take
that money and pay yourself and pay for your goods and services.
If you spend money promoting something in the name of the mask, the mask
it not doing it. You are! the mask does nothing on its own. It is a symbol.
An idea. Nothing more.
Suppose someone attacked the reputation of your mask. Would the mask need
powers to defend itself? Of course not! It's just a mask! It can do nothing
without people. The idea of a corporation needing some way to "defend itself"
sounds ludicrous to me.
Proposition 89 empowers people, at the expense of corporations. I see that
as only a small redress of the huge imbalance that exists now.
>
>Yes, there are downsides to this. Even conservatives who really do believe
>in right and wrong most of the time, had a huge slap in the face with Randy
>Cunningham didn't they? Money buys power. You have a real point in what
>you say. I am just not sure this prop will fix the problem.
>
>DC
>
I do know that what we have right now is NOT working, and waiting for something
perfect to come along is not going to produce any postitive change in our
lifetimes.
And, again, thanks for engaging in this discussion.
-steveWell, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection
to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
voting for someone you think is incompetent.
I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
ballot.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
John wrote:
> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>
> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>
>
> hehe,
> John
>
> Jamie K wrote:
>>
>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>
>>> Love,
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>Ah, a voice of reason, (Remember, You Get What You Pay For...)
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>
> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
> ballot.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>Kinky Friedman
vote independant, but at least vote.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection
>to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
>voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
>I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
>reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
>ballot.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels in
the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any definitive
statements about it sounding better, but there's something happening here
that sounds different from what is happening when sending the mix out of
Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency.
The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and causing
dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had to be at 12
ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. I've been
working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or hiccup. That
was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some sort of issue with
them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the stability factor......and
I really didn't expect that.
The more I use this system, the better I like it.
Deej"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>I still don't get it. The corporation is not a "real" entity. It doesn't
>suffer pain or embarassment, or hunger or pride. It cannot be "attacked"
>as if it were a city state. It is a legal construct. The parts of it which
>CAN be attacked are the HUMANS, and they can respond as any other humans
>do.
This is where I really disagree. It most certainly is real in every way
that
matters, It issues real checks, it pays real taxes, it has a real repuation
that,
once damaged is terribly hard to repair, and it most certainly can be attacked.
It has interests that both include and go beyond the individual interests
of
employees and stockholders, and should be able to defend those interests
so it
can continue to employee people, produce products, and pay taxes.
When a corporation is attacked by ill-concievd activist initiatives, it has
great power to respond, and it has greater liabilities as well (more to lose)
than the interests of its individual employees.
Now, when a corporation is attacked by enlightened and wise inititatives,
it
also has more power to respond than an individual, for the same reasons,
so
may abuse the system to lie.
But, I believe that liars get caught, most of the time, and eventually.
In the
case of corporations, the consequences of getting caught are very large indeed,
and can close the company when a public opinion backlash happens.
I would prefer to keep companies able to respond to initiatives as they see
fit,
and believe the press and the supporters of intiatives will catch them when
they lie, and the public will respond appropriately.
>Proposition 89 empowers people, at the expense of corporations. I see that
>as only a small redress of the huge imbalance that exists now.
It prevents not one single instance of the corruption of politicians, nor
does
it prevent corporations from lying about initiatives. What it does do is
prevent
corporations from defending their interests to the full extent.
Right now, IMO there are two very ill-conceived intiatives on the ballot
attacking specific industries.
Prop 86 adds 13 cents to the current 2.60 per pack cigarette tax to prop
up the
terribly neglected hospital ER system as well as for nurse education, and
some health insurance. Now most smokers don't end up in ER for smoking;
they just walk in and die in the regular wards, so I don't see the connection.
If we are going to play "let's get the bastards" with a truly scummy industry
like tobacco, with punitive legislation, not related to their product, a
product
that is legal and everyone knows the results of using, then where does it
stop? What's next? I like big, evil, steaming burritos from Alberto's
(here in
SoCal). I'm sure they are very bad for me. Hey why not hammer the
death-burrito industry to pay for school textbooks? It's for the kids!
ER's should be funded by those who use them (that means Mexico contributes)
and/or the state in order to have a humane system. Not by arbitrary taxes
on
companies we do not like.
Then we have prop 87.
It is a spectacularly bad piece of work... It will:
-------------
Establish a $4 billion program with goal to reduce petroleum consumption
by
25%, with research and production incentives for alternative energy, alternative
energy vehicles, energy efficient technologies, and for education and training.
------------
One problem. It completely neglects the acquisition of new oil sources in
the short term! This is the most important geopolitical issue of our time.
As we speak, 6 more middle eastern countries are signing on to develop
nukes... And there is one source for the money/power to do so.
Oil.
In fact, this stupid initiative actually makes it *harder* to develop our
own
resources. see below
----------
Funded by tax of 1.5% to 6% (depending on oil price per barrel) on producers
of oil extracted in California.
---------
Oh, and who would prefer to tax only our OWN oil? Could it be maybe satan?
It could be the selfish yuppie slime who will do anything to prevent
oil derricks from appearing on their million-dollar views too, huh?
The failure to develop first, our own oil resources, and then alternatives,
could
actually spell the end of the west. It's that serious. A major project
should
have been started at the federal level, 20 years ago, and instead we get
garbage
like prop 87. Oh, and it pays for "education" too. To remind us to be green!
To remind us to conserve! Bullsh*t. We need real exploration, we need
new refineries, we need a hydrogen program started, and instead we get
feel-good crap that will make the situation worse.
In the case of both these initiatives, the interests of Chevron, and yes
(gulp)
big tobacco, coincide with those of the public. They have both told the
truth
in their ads against these intiatives.
I say, let corporations represent themselves in the free market and let activists
and the press make their case without interference and restrictions.
And yes. Everyone vote please!
DCWhile walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit
by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter
at the entrance.
"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems
there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you
see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
"No problem, just let me in," says the man.
"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is
have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where
to spend eternity."
"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the
senator.
"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
And with that, St. Peter escorts him to th e elevator and he goes
down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle
of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front
of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him,
shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while
getting rich at the expense of the people.
They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar
and champagne.
Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has
a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time
that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator
rises...
The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St
Peter is waiting for him.
"Now it's time to visit heaven."
So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls
moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a
good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St.
Peter returns.
"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now
choose your eternity."
The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would
never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think
I
would be better off in hell."
So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down
to hell.
Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a
barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends,
dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more
trash
falls from above.
The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I
don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there
was
a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank
champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland
full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"
The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
campaigning...... Today you voted."................and also, I've got it chasing the Paris transport, just like
the RME cards so it syncs perfectly to Paris ADAT.
;o)
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels in
> the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>
> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any definitive
> statements about it sounding better, but there's something happening here
> that sounds different from what is happening when sending the mix out of
> Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
>
> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency.
> The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and causing
> dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had to be at
> 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. I've been
> working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or hiccup.
> That was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some sort of
> issue with them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the stability
> factor......and I really didn't expect that.
>
> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>
> Deej
>good one Don.
"DC" <dc@spammersinsacremento.com> wrote in message news:454eabab$1@linux...
>
> While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit
> by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter
> at the entrance.
>
> "Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems
> there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you
> see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
>
> "No problem, just let me in," says the man.
>
> "Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is
> have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose
> where
> to spend eternity."
>
> "Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the
> senator.
>
> "I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
>
> And with that, St. Peter escorts him to th e elevator and he goes
> down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the
> middle
> of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in
> front
> of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
>
> Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him,
> shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while
> getting rich at the expense of the people.
>
> They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar
> and champagne.
>
> Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has
> a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time
> that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
> Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator
> rises...
>
> The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St
> Peter is waiting for him.
> "Now it's time to visit heaven."
>
> So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls
> moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a
> good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St.
> Peter returns.
>
> "Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now
> choose your eternity."
>
> The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would
> never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think
> I
> would be better off in hell."
>
> So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down
> to hell.
>
> Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a
> barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends,
> dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more
> trash
> falls from above.
>
> The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I
> don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there
> was
> a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank
> champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland
> full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"
>
> The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
> campaigning...... Today you voted."
>I dunno. It may. This Creamware system may be an acceptable alternative to
the Paris mix bus. No kiddin'. It's actually got some headroom. I've been
asking the Pulsar guru's about this. Seems the same DSP that the Scope
system uses is also used in the Euphonics digital console and the Fairlight
system. I haven't verified it, but I'
m playing back that same 37 track project that I was working with in Cubase
a couple of weeks ago and it sounds big and open when routed via ASIO from
Cubase to the Scope mixer.
Also, looks like the PCI slot in the mobo survived, but the host card for
the Magma didn't.
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:454d7d9c@linux...
> Will the madness never end.
>
> AA
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d6c9f@linux...
>> Heheh!!!! well.....I didn't die, but one of my mobo slots did.
>> Mmmmm!!!!!......smells like Behringer!!!!.
>>
>> ........don't know............it might have been a defective host
>> card.......chassis........whatever, but the smell of fried electronics
>> doth
>> permeate the control room right about now.
>>
>> Lucky I've got a cheapo backup mobo cause this one is tres toasty! It
>> still
>> works though. I'm just not going to be running any cards in PCI slot #3
>> from
>> now on.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d5b2d@linux...
>>> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13
>> slotters
>>> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do
>>> with
>>> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in the
>>> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without
>>> Ghost
>>> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
>>> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to be
>>> accomplished or I will die..
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Ok, we have Prop 90 on the ballot here in California.
It is an anti eminent domain initiative.
Here's what's reallt weird.
Check out the "yes on 90" site.
http://www.yesprop90.com/
Now check out the "no on 90" site
http://www.noprop90.com/
Same models. Same pictures, same graphics, same layout.
Very strange. Steve, have you seen this? Anybody else have an idea?
Strange...
DCDj..Keep us posted. You have peeked my interest in this platform. I do know
that both Euphonics and Fairlight uses the sharc dsp chips or eventhe newer
dolphon chips which are great dsps.. Personally, I love dsp systems.
I know people are all jacked for native systems, but without the proper dsp,
they've all lacked something..AND, It keeps you on the PC /Mac upgrade path
forever.. Which is dumb!! When you add ut all up , you have already paid
for a turn-key DSP system.
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>I dunno. It may. This Creamware system may be an acceptable alternative
to
>the Paris mix bus. No kiddin'. It's actually got some headroom. I've been
>asking the Pulsar guru's about this. Seems the same DSP that the Scope
>system uses is also used in the Euphonics digital console and the Fairlight
>system. I haven't verified it, but I'
>m playing back that same 37 track project that I was working with in Cubase
>a couple of weeks ago and it sounds big and open when routed via ASIO from
>Cubase to the Scope mixer.
>
>Also, looks like the PCI slot in the mobo survived, but the host card for
>the Magma didn't.
>
>;o)
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:454d7d9c@linux...
>> Will the madness never end.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d6c9f@linux...
>>> Heheh!!!! well.....I didn't die, but one of my mobo slots did.
>>> Mmmmm!!!!!......smells like Behringer!!!!.
>>>
>>> ........don't know............it might have been a defective host
>>> card.......chassis........whatever, but the smell of fried electronics
>>> doth
>>> permeate the control room right about now.
>>>
>>> Lucky I've got a cheapo backup mobo cause this one is tres toasty! It
>>> still
>>> works though. I'm just not going to be running any cards in PCI slot
#3
>>> from
>>> now on.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d5b2d@linux...
>>>> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13
>>> slotters
>>>> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do
>>>> with
>>>> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in the
>>>> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without
>>>> Ghost
>>>> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
>>>> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to
be
>>>> accomplished or I will die..
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs, latency in
ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
Inquiring minds really wanna know.
AA
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels in
> the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>
> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any definitive
> statements about it sounding better, but there's something happening here
> that sounds different from what is happening when sending the mix out of
> Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
>
> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency.
> The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and causing
> dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had to be at
> 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. I've been
> working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or hiccup.
> That was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some sort of
> issue with them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the stability
> factor......and I really didn't expect that.
>
> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>
> Deej
>It keeps you on the PC /Mac upgrade path
> forever.. Which is dumb!! When you add ut all up , you have already paid
> for a turn-key DSP system.
Exactly. And don't forget to put in the 'tune' time the poor souls on native
have to go through with every new system generally. I think another things
we're going to see more problems with is "automatic updates".. mac and win.
No good can come of that for audio guys.
AA
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:454ed819$1@linux...
>
> Dj..Keep us posted. You have peeked my interest in this platform. I do
> know
> that both Euphonics and Fairlight uses the sharc dsp chips or eventhe
> newer
> dolphon chips which are great dsps.. Personally, I love dsp systems.
>
> I know people are all jacked for native systems, but without the proper
> dsp,
> they've all lacked something..AND, It keeps you on the PC /Mac upgrade
> path
> forever.. Which is dumb!! When you add ut all up , you have already paid
> for a turn-key DSP system.
>
> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>I dunno. It may. This Creamware system may be an acceptable alternative
> to
>>the Paris mix bus. No kiddin'. It's actually got some headroom. I've been
>
>>asking the Pulsar guru's about this. Seems the same DSP that the Scope
>>system uses is also used in the Euphonics digital console and the
>>Fairlight
>
>>system. I haven't verified it, but I'
>>m playing back that same 37 track project that I was working with in
>>Cubase
>
>>a couple of weeks ago and it sounds big and open when routed via ASIO from
>
>>Cubase to the Scope mixer.
>>
>>Also, looks like the PCI slot in the mobo survived, but the host card for
>
>>the Magma didn't.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:454d7d9c@linux...
>>> Will the madness never end.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d6c9f@linux...
>>>> Heheh!!!! well.....I didn't die, but one of my mobo slots did.
>>>> Mmmmm!!!!!......smells like Behringer!!!!.
>>>>
>>>> ........don't know............it might have been a defective host
>>>> card.......chassis........whatever, but the smell of fried electronics
>
>>>> doth
>>>> permeate the control room right about now.
>>>>
>>>> Lucky I've got a cheapo backup mobo cause this one is tres toasty! It
>
>>>> still
>>>> works though. I'm just not going to be running any cards in PCI slot
> #3
>>>> from
>>>> now on.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d5b2d@linux...
>>>>> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13
>>>> slotters
>>>>> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do
>
>>>>> with
>>>>> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in the
>>>>> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without
>
>>>>> Ghost
>>>>> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
>>>>> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to
> be
>>>>> accomplished or I will die..
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are mind
boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have 3 x cards
with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which are
configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O and 20
analog I/O.
I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just fine
with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more plugins can
be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm having to pan in
Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to program my Steiny
Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind of secondary
controller and map it to the Scope environment.
I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities of
this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like tracking
on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out there IMHO. I
think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero latency, just like
in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder bundled with the system.
I guess this could be used and then the tracks flown into Cubase for editing
and mixing. I just haven't gone there yet.
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:454edbc5@linux...
> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs, latency
> in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
>> in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>
>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>> happening here that sounds different from what is happening when sending
>> the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination,
>> maybe not.
>>
>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had
>> to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware.
>> I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or
>> hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some
>> sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the
>> stability factor......and I really didn't expect that.
>>
>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>
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Deej.
I'm inches away from digging in deep to the Scope world too.
I have been watching it for almost one year with no funds
to support my needs. I just bought the parts for a reasonable
duo core and am hoping to implement a 14 chip Scope Pro=20
card asap as my ADAT interface among other things. The Classic
version seems best for my needs with Paris and two active
ADAT cards in XP.
I've also been watching your trials and tribulations as they occur
on both newsgroups. Thanks for all the heads ups! I'll meet you
at the coda.
Tom
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454eca5e@linux...
...............and also, I've got it chasing the Paris transport, just =
like=20
the RME cards so it syncs perfectly to Paris ADAT.
;o)
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual =
channels in=20
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>
> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any =
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>
> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms =
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>
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>
> Deej
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DC,
I'm spooked and I didn't read one word.
Tom
Whose who?
"DC" <dc@spammersinpolitics.com> wrote in message =
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Ok, we have Prop 90 on the ballot here in California.
It is an anti eminent domain initiative.
Here's what's reallt weird.
Check out the "yes on 90" site.
http://www.yesprop90.com/
Now check out the "no on 90" site
http://www.noprop90.com/
Same models. Same pictures, same graphics, same layout.
Very strange. Steve, have you seen this? Anybody else have an idea?
Strange...
DC
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initiative.<BR><BR>Here's what's reallt weird.<BR><BR>Check out the =
"yes on=20
90" site.<BR><BR><A=20
=
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=
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>Same=20
models. Same pictures, same graphics, same layout.<BR><BR>Very=20
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Cubase's CPU meter is sitting at around 40% but the system doesn't seem to
be even breathing hard. I would have had to up the buffers to at least 512k
to get a dependable playback with the RME cards.
DJ
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:454edf15@linux...
> It keeps you on the PC /Mac upgrade path
>> forever.. Which is dumb!! When you add ut all up , you have already paid
>> for a turn-key DSP system.
>
> Exactly. And don't forget to put in the 'tune' time the poor souls on
> native have to go through with every new system generally. I think another
> things we're going to see more problems with is "automatic updates".. mac
> and win. No good can come of that for audio guys.
>
> AA
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:454ed819$1@linux...
>>
>> Dj..Keep us posted. You have peeked my interest in this platform. I do
>> know
>> that both Euphonics and Fairlight uses the sharc dsp chips or eventhe
>> newer
>> dolphon chips which are great dsps.. Personally, I love dsp systems.
>>
>> I know people are all jacked for native systems, but without the proper
>> dsp,
>> they've all lacked something..AND, It keeps you on the PC /Mac upgrade
>> path
>> forever.. Which is dumb!! When you add ut all up , you have already paid
>> for a turn-key DSP system.
>>
>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>I dunno. It may. This Creamware system may be an acceptable alternative
>> to
>>>the Paris mix bus. No kiddin'. It's actually got some headroom. I've been
>>
>>>asking the Pulsar guru's about this. Seems the same DSP that the Scope
>>>system uses is also used in the Euphonics digital console and the
>>>Fairlight
>>
>>>system. I haven't verified it, but I'
>>>m playing back that same 37 track project that I was working with in
>>>Cubase
>>
>>>a couple of weeks ago and it sounds big and open when routed via ASIO
>>>from
>>
>>>Cubase to the Scope mixer.
>>>
>>>Also, looks like the PCI slot in the mobo survived, but the host card for
>>
>>>the Magma didn't.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:454d7d9c@linux...
>>>> Will the madness never end.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d6c9f@linux...
>>>>> Heheh!!!! well.....I didn't die, but one of my mobo slots did.
>>>>> Mmmmm!!!!!......smells like Behringer!!!!.
>>>>>
>>>>> ........don't know............it might have been a defective host
>>>>> card.......chassis........whatever, but the smell of fried
>>>>> electronics
>>
>>>>> doth
>>>>> permeate the control room right about now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucky I've got a cheapo backup mobo cause this one is tres toasty! It
>>
>>>>> still
>>>>> works though. I'm just not going to be running any cards in PCI slot
>> #3
>>>>> from
>>>>> now on.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d5b2d@linux...
>>>>>> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13
>>>>> slotters
>>>>>> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do
>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without
>>
>>>>>> Ghost
>>>>>> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
>>>>>> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to
>> be
>>>>>> accomplished or I will die..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Neil,
That would be sweet though huh?
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:454e266e$1@linux...
They're saving him and Wesley Snipes for the 2008 elections. hehe
Neil wrote:
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> And just in time for elections ! That's it, the terrorist lose! =
Ok we
>=20
>> can all go home now. =20
>=20
> Yes, now if suddenly in tomorrow mornings' news cycle we hear
> that Osama Bin Laden has "just been captured", we'll know the
> fix was in & he's been sitting in a cell somewhere for the past
> ten months or so.
>=20
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huh?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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saving him and Wesley Snipes for the 2008 elections. =
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wrote:<BR>>> And just in time for elections ! That's it, =
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now. =20
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I'm feeling pretty good about this system so far Tom. It's definitely =
got that DSP vibe and the onboard FX are the same level of mojo that I =
associate with the UAD-1 cards. The Optimaster bus limiter and the PysQ =
equalizer are amazing. the other FX ard good too. Unless you're a synth =
freak, go for the Mix and Master add-on pack when you buy. It should be =
a freebie and is a great bunch of tools.
;o)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:454ee351$1@linux...
Deej.
I'm inches away from digging in deep to the Scope world too.
I have been watching it for almost one year with no funds
to support my needs. I just bought the parts for a reasonable
duo core and am hoping to implement a 14 chip Scope Pro=20
card asap as my ADAT interface among other things. The Classic
version seems best for my needs with Paris and two active
ADAT cards in XP.
I've also been watching your trials and tribulations as they occur
on both newsgroups. Thanks for all the heads ups! I'll meet you
at the coda.
Tom
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454eca5e@linux...
...............and also, I've got it chasing the Paris transport, =
just like=20
the RME cards so it syncs perfectly to Paris ADAT.
;o)
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual =
channels in=20
> the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>
> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any =
definitive=20
> statements about it sounding better, but there's something =
happening here=20
> that sounds different from what is happening when sending the mix =
out of=20
> Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe =
not.
>
> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms =
latency.=20
> The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and =
causing=20
> dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had =
to be at=20
> 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. =
I've been=20
> working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or =
hiccup.=20
> That was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some sort =
of=20
> issue with them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the =
stability=20
> factor......and I really didn't expect that.
>
> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>
> Deej
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm feeling pretty good about this =
system so far=20
Tom. It's definitely got that DSP vibe and the onboard FX are the same =
level of=20
mojo that I associate with the UAD-1 cards. The Optimaster bus limiter =
and the=20
PysQ equalizer are amazing. the other FX ard good too. Unless you're a =
synth=20
freak, go for the Mix and Master add-on pack when you buy. It should be =
a=20
freebie and is a great bunch of tools.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:454ee351$1@linux">news:454ee351$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm inches away from digging in deep =
to the Scope=20
world too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been watching it for almost =
one year with=20
no funds</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to support my needs. I just =
bought the=20
parts for a reasonable</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>duo core and am hoping to implement a =
14 chip=20
Scope Pro </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>asap as my=20
ADAT interface among other things. The Classic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>version seems best for my needs with =
Paris and=20
two active</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT cards in XP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've also been watching your trials =
and=20
tribulations as they occur</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on both newsgroups. =
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Thanks for all the heads ups! I'll meet =
you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at the coda.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.jack">no@way.jack</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:454eca5e@linux">news:454eca5e@linux</A>...</DIV>............=
....and=20
also, I've got it chasing the Paris transport, just like <BR>the RME =
cards=20
so it syncs perfectly to Paris ADAT.<BR><BR>;o)<BR><BR>"DJ" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:no@way.jack">no@way.jack</A>> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:454ea433@linux">news:454ea433@linux</A>...<BR>> I'm =
playing=20
back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels in =
<BR>> the=20
Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing=20
bus.<BR>><BR>> There's something different going on. I'm not =
going to=20
make any definitive <BR>> statements about it sounding better, =
but=20
there's something happening here <BR>> that sounds different from =
what is=20
happening when sending the mix out of <BR>> Cubase SX through the =
RME=20
Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.<BR>><BR>> Also, I'm =
playing=20
back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency. <BR>> =
The SX CPU=20
meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and causing <BR>> =
dropouts.=20
The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had to be at =
<BR>> 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME =
hardware. I've=20
been <BR>> working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single =
crash or=20
hiccup. <BR>> That was unheard of with the RME cards. There was =
always=20
some sort of <BR>> issue with them. It was worth the move to =
Pulsar just=20
for the stability <BR>> factor......and I really didn't expect=20
that.<BR>><BR>> The more I use this system, the better I like=20
it.<BR>><BR>> Deej<BR>> <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Neil,
So how did it go?
Tom
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454cc5c7$1@linux...
"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>is the 1700 acre parcel his too?man it must be nice having rich =
freinds
Hey now, it's not like I get to use this place for free - he
cuts me a little break, yeah, but it's a business, you know?
And I gotta give him credit, he keeps the place booked.. when I
was asking about any weekend times coming up that might be
available, it was: "Well, we have this coming weekend, and then
nothing 'til February". How many studios can say that? So yeah,
he's got a few bucks, but it's not like this studio is just a
giant toybox for him, either.
Neil
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Neil,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So how did it go?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Neil" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:IOUOIU@OIU.com">IOUOIU@OIU.com</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:454cc5c7$1@linux">news:454cc5c7$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>"ale=
x=20
plasko" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:alex.plasko@snet.net">alex.plasko@snet.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>is the 1700 acre parcel his too?man it must be nice =
having rich=20
freinds<BR><BR>Hey now, it's not like I get to use this place for free =
-=20
he<BR>cuts me a little break, yeah, but it's a business, you =
know?<BR>And I=20
gotta give him credit, he keeps the place booked.. when I<BR>was =
asking about=20
any weekend times coming up that might be<BR>available, it was: "Well, =
we have=20
this coming weekend, and then<BR>nothing 'til February". How many =
studios can=20
say that? So yeah,<BR>he's got a few bucks, but it's not like this =
studio is=20
just a<BR>giant toybox for him, either.<BR><BR>Neil</BLOCKQUOTE>
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Deej,
I'm into it for both reasons (effects and synths/sampler) but also as a=20
cost effective way to get 16 ADAT in/outs via Paris to/from Cubase. I =
also=20
have a third rig (AMD 3000+) waiting in the wings to take up some native
slack via FX-Teleport for Kontact if need be.
This is a beautiful time that we are enduring huh?!?
Tom
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee635@linux...
I'm feeling pretty good about this system so far Tom. It's definitely =
got that DSP vibe and the onboard FX are the same level of mojo that I =
associate with the UAD-1 cards. The Optimaster bus limiter and the PysQ =
equalizer are amazing. the other FX ard good too. Unless you're a synth =
freak, go for the Mix and Master add-on pack when you buy. It should be =
a freebie and is a great bunch of tools.
;o)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:454ee351$1@linux...
Deej.
I'm inches away from digging in deep to the Scope world too.
I have been watching it for almost one year with no funds
to support my needs. I just bought the parts for a reasonable
duo core and am hoping to implement a 14 chip Scope Pro=20
card asap as my ADAT interface among other things. The Classic
version seems best for my needs with Paris and two active
ADAT cards in XP.
I've also been watching your trials and tribulations as they occur
on both newsgroups. Thanks for all the heads ups! I'll meet you
at the coda.
Tom
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454eca5e@linux...
...............and also, I've got it chasing the Paris transport, =
just like=20
the RME cards so it syncs perfectly to Paris ADAT.
;o)
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual =
channels in=20
> the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing =
bus.
>
> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any =
definitive=20
> statements about it sounding better, but there's something =
happening here=20
> that sounds different from what is happening when sending the =
mix out of=20
> Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe =
not.
>
> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at =
3ms latency.=20
> The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and =
causing=20
> dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had =
to be at=20
> 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. =
I've been=20
> working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or =
hiccup.=20
> That was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some =
sort of=20
> issue with them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the =
stability=20
> factor......and I really didn't expect that.
>
> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>
> Deej
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm into it for both reasons (effects =
and=20
synths/sampler) but also as a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cost effective way to </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>get 16 ADAT in/outs via Paris to/from Cubase. I also =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>a third rig=20
(AMD 3000+) waiting in the wings to take up some native</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>slack via FX-Teleport for Kontact if =
need=20
be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is a beautiful time that we are =
enduring=20
huh?!?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.jack">no@way.jack</A>> wrote =
in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm feeling pretty good about this =
system so far=20
Tom. It's definitely got that DSP vibe and the onboard FX are the same =
level=20
of mojo that I associate with the UAD-1 cards. The Optimaster bus =
limiter and=20
the PysQ equalizer are amazing. the other FX ard good too. Unless =
you're a=20
synth freak, go for the Mix and Master add-on pack when you buy. It =
should be=20
a freebie and is a great bunch of tools.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm inches away from digging in =
deep to the=20
Scope world too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been watching it for almost =
one year=20
with no funds</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to support my needs. I just =
bought the=20
parts for a reasonable</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>duo core and am hoping to implement =
a 14 chip=20
Scope Pro </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>asap as my=20
ADAT interface among other things. The Classic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>version seems best for my needs =
with Paris and=20
two active</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT cards in XP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've also been watching your trials =
and=20
tribulations as they occur</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on both newsgroups. =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all the heads ups! I'll meet=20
you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at the coda.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.jack">no@way.jack</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:454eca5e@linux">news:454eca5e@linux</A>...</DIV>............=
....and=20
also, I've got it chasing the Paris transport, just like <BR>the =
RME cards=20
so it syncs perfectly to Paris ADAT.<BR><BR>;o)<BR><BR>"DJ" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:no@way.jack">no@way.jack</A>> wrote in message =
<A=20
href=3D"news:454ea433@linux">news:454ea433@linux</A>...<BR>> =
I'm playing=20
back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels in =
<BR>>=20
the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing=20
bus.<BR>><BR>> There's something different going on. I'm not =
going=20
to make any definitive <BR>> statements about it sounding =
better, but=20
there's something happening here <BR>> that sounds different =
from what=20
is happening when sending the mix out of <BR>> Cubase SX =
through the=20
RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.<BR>><BR>> =
Also, I'm=20
playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency. =
<BR>>=20
The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and =
causing=20
<BR>> dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I =
would have=20
had to be at <BR>> 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with =
the RME=20
hardware. I've been <BR>> working in SX for over 5 hours now =
without=20
one single crash or hiccup. <BR>> That was unheard of with the =
RME=20
cards. There was always some sort of <BR>> issue with them. It =
was=20
worth the move to Pulsar just for the stability <BR>> =
factor......and I=20
really didn't expect that.<BR>><BR>> The more I use this =
system, the=20
better I like it.<BR>><BR>> Deej<BR>> =
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C70150.F94E2CD0--"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>And yes. Everyone vote please!
>
>DC
>
Well, I certainly agree with that!
-steve>
>http://www.yesprop90.com/
>
>http://www.noprop90.com/
>
>Very strange. Steve, have you seen this? Anybody else have an idea?
>
>Strange...
>
>DC
>
No I had not seen those!
I first thought the "yes" site was a parody, but it's links look legit. Perhaps
someone took the "yes" site and rebuilt it as a "no" site.
On the other hand, the "yes" site has this, which is pretty darned funny:
http://www.yesprop90.com/confusing.html
-steve
On the other other hand, the No site has a quote from, of all places, the
Napa Valley Register, never a very stellar paper in my opinion, and I've
lived in Napa my entire life.thanks, Don. It's almost too true to be funny.
-steve
"DC" <dc@spammersinsacremento.com> wrote:
>
>While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit
>by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter
>at the entrance.
>
>"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems
>there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you
>see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
>
>"No problem, just let me in," says the man.
>
>"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is
>have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where
>to spend eternity."
>
>"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the
>senator.
>
>"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
>
>And with that, St. Peter escorts him to th e elevator and he goes
>down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle
>of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front
>of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
>
>Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him,
>shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while
>getting rich at the expense of the people.
>
>They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar
>and champagne.
>
>Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has
>a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time
>that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
>Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator
>rises...
>
>The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St
>Peter is waiting for him.
>"Now it's time to visit heaven."
>
>So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls
>moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a
>good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St.
>Peter returns.
>
>"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now
>choose your eternity."
>
>The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would
>never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think
>I
>would be better off in hell."
>
>So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down
>to hell.
>
>Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a
>barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends,
>dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more
>trash
>falls from above.
>
>The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I
>don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there
>was
>a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank
>champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland
>full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"
>
>The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
>campaigning...... Today you voted."
>i don't get it...;o)
On 6 Nov 2006 14:27:39 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinsacremento.com>
wrote:
>
>While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit
>by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter
>at the entrance.
>
>"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems
>there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you
>see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
>
>"No problem, just let me in," says the man.
>
>"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is
>have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where
>to spend eternity."
>
>"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the
>senator.
>
>"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
>
>And with that, St. Peter escorts him to th e elevator and he goes
>down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle
>of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front
>of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
>
>Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him,
>shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while
>getting rich at the expense of the people.
>
>They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar
>and champagne.
>
>Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has
>a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time
>that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
>Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator
>rises...
>
>The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St
>Peter is waiting for him.
>"Now it's time to visit heaven."
>
>So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls
>moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a
>good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St.
>Peter returns.
>
>"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now
>choose your eternity."
>
>The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would
>never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think
>I
>would be better off in hell."
>
>So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down
>to hell.
>
>Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a
>barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends,
>dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more
>trash
>falls from above.
>
>The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I
>don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there
>was
>a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank
>champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland
>full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"
>
>The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
>campaigning...... Today you voted."hahaha, excellent ! Thanks
DC wrote:
> While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit
> by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter
> at the entrance.
>
> "Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems
> there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you
> see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
>
> "No problem, just let me in," says the man.
>
> "Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is
> have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where
> to spend eternity."
>
> "Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the
> senator.
>
> "I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
>
> And with that, St. Peter escorts him to th e elevator and he goes
> down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle
> of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front
> of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
>
> Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him,
> shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while
> getting rich at the expense of the people.
>
> They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar
> and champagne.
>
> Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has
> a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time
> that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
> Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator
> rises...
>
> The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St
> Peter is waiting for him.
> "Now it's time to visit heaven."
>
> So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls
> moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a
> good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St.
> Peter returns.
>
> "Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now
> choose your eternity."
>
> The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would
> never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think
> I
> would be better off in hell."
>
> So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down
> to hell.
>
> Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a
> barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends,
> dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more
> trash
> falls from above.
>
> The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I
> don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there
> was
> a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank
> champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland
> full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"
>
> The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
> campaigning...... Today you voted."
>Tom, it went pretty well, thanks! I do have a few clips of
some a/b comparisons on the various mics, but before I post
them I want to let this lady hear them & ask her if she
minds if I do so... she was just kind of warming up still when
we did the test takes of a few lines each, but she
was "in-voice" enough to be able to tell which worked best on
her voice.
Piano-wise, we got lucky & nailed it first time as far as
placement goes... no phasing problems or anything like that,
great balance between the lo & hi strings; so that was nice not
having to futz around repositioning things. We used 4 mics on
the piano itself: we stuck a stereo bar on each of 2 mic
stands & used a 414B-ULS & a B.L.U.E. Bluebird (I picked up a
couple of these recently) next to each other on each stereo
bar, and my Earthworks TC-30 Omnis in an ORTF pattern for
room/ambient mics... not too far away - about 5 or 6 feet back
from the end of the piano and slightly off to the left, not
quite 45 degrees, I'd say. ISA-110's on all of them, just
tracked flat with no EQ. Sounds really nice with all 6 channels
just running at equal levels.
I was able to get them to break out one of the C-12's, another
was being used by the guys from this band, who are finishing up
their first CD out there now:
http://www.myspace.com/thisworldfair
Anyway, we ended up being able to a/b the Stephen Paul-modded
U-67, my Mojave MA-200 (which DID sound a lot like the -67,
except with less proximity effect), the C-12, and a Soundelux
E251-C that I snagged a great demo deal on just this past week
(still a lot of freakin' money though - not sure if I'm $2,100
worth of "thrilled" on this mic yet).
For consistency's sake, we used Neve 1073's on all of them for
the comparison tests, and for the key & style in which she was
singing the test takes, the S.P. U-67 was the best (mainly for
the warmth factor - the C-12 didn't have enough "body", the
Soundelux emphasized the midrange too much, and the MA-200 was
actually a close second, but the difference between that one &
the S.P. -67 was that the promiximity effect won out in this
case). Interestingly enough, however, when we got into the
first song itself (they ended up doing two) when she got to
some loud parts, it was sounding a little ragged on the
high's... not fizzy, just some kind of "something not right",
kind of ragged up there so we switched preamps to my Neve
Portico & that smoothed it out.
When we got the next song, though, that mic was not working at
ALL - different key, different inflections... had her sing a
couple of lines again into the 251-C & the C-12; the 251-C was
working better on her voice than on the first song, but the
C-12 through a 1073 was better still - that nice, silky-just-
short-of-zingy high end is what did it for that tune.
Will definitely post some clips of the test files if she
doesn't mind.
Neil
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Neil,
>So how did it go?
>Tom
>
>
> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454cc5c7$1@linux...
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
> >is the 1700 acre parcel his too?man it must be nice having rich =
>freinds
>
> Hey now, it's not like I get to use this place for free - he
> cuts me a little break, yeah, but it's a business, you know?
> And I gotta give him credit, he keeps the place booked.. when I
> was asking about any weekend times coming up that might be
> available, it was: "Well, we have this coming weekend, and then
> nothing 'til February". How many studios can say that? So yeah,
> he's got a few bucks, but it's not like this studio is just a
> giant toybox for him, either.
>
> Neil
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So how did it go?</FONT></DIV>
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>
>DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front end?
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
> It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are
> mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have 3 x
> cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which are
> configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O and 20
> analog I/O.
>
> I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just fine
> with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
> configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
> whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more plugins
> can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm having to pan
> in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to program my Steiny
> Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind of secondary
> controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>
> I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities of
> this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>
> Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
> tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out there
> IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero latency,
> just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder bundled with
> the system. I guess this could be used and then the tracks flown into
> Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone there yet.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:454edbc5@linux...
>> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs, latency
>> in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
>>> in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>>
>>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>>> happening here that sounds different from what is happening when sending
>>> the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination,
>>> maybe not.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had
>>> to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware.
>>> I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or
>>> hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some
>>> sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the
>>> stability factor......and I really didn't expect that.
>>>
>>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>
>>
>
>I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to drop
Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O or 12
S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo balanced
AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll have all the
digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my outboard gear at
mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds so good that I may be
doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit or maybe some of those new
RME units with the autogain control for tracking might eliminate the need
for a bunch of outboard compressors I use now. I'm not going to get too
frisky about leaving Paris just yet. There's still a lot to love about it.
We'll see.
;o)
"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
> DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front end?
>
> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>> It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are
>> mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have 3
>> x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which are
>> configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O and
>> 20 analog I/O.
>>
>> I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just fine
>> with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
>> configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
>> whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more plugins
>> can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm having to
>> pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to program my
>> Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind of secondary
>> controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>
>> I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities of
>> this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>
>> Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>> tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>> there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>> latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>> bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the tracks
>> flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone there yet.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:454edbc5@linux...
>>> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs, latency
>>> in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
>>>> in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>>>
>>>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>>>> happening here that sounds different from what is happening when
>>>> sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my
>>>> imagination, maybe not.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>>>> had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>> hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>>>> single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There
>>>> was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to
>>>> Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't expect
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Gotta DJ,
First come first served.
I trade my Plus plate (will have it in a couple of days) with your adat plate
Cheers,
Dimitrios
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
>converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to drop
>Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O or 12
>S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo balanced
>AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll have all
the
>digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my outboard gear
at
>mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds so good that I may
be
>doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit or maybe some of those
new
>RME units with the autogain control for tracking might eliminate the need
>for a bunch of outboard compressors I use now. I'm not going to get too
>frisky about leaving Paris just yet. There's still a lot to love about it.
>We'll see.
>
>;o)
>
>
>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
>news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
>> DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front end?
>>
>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>>> It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are
>>> mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have
3
>>> x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which
are
>>> configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O and
>>> 20 analog I/O.
>>>
>>> I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just
fine
>>> with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
>>> configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
>>> whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more plugins
>>> can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm having to
>>> pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to program my
>>> Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind of secondary
>>> controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>>
>>> I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities
of
>>> this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>>
>>> Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>>> tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>>> there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>>> latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>>> bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the tracks
>>> flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone there yet.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:454edbc5@linux...
>>>> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs, latency
>>>> in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>>> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
>>>>> in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>>>>> happening here that sounds different from what is happening when
>>>>> sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my
>>>>> imagination, maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>>>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>>>>> had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>>> hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>>>>> single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There
>>>>> was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to
>>>>> Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't expect
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>OK, my guru-man... what Pulsar components did you get, how much
were they, and where did you get them from?
Neil
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote
>I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
in
>the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>
>There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any definitive
>statements about it sounding better, but there's something happening here
>that sounds different from what is happening when sending the mix out of
>Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
>
>Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency.
>The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and causing
>dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had to be at
12
>ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. I've been
>working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or hiccup. That
>was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some sort of issue with
>them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the stability factor......and
>I really didn't expect that.
>
>The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>
>Deej
>
>:D EVERYONE (not just John) should like that one!
Neil
"DC" <dc@spammersinsacremento.com> wrote:
>
>While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit
>by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter
>at the entrance.
>
>"Welcome to heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems
>there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you
>see, so we're not sure what to do with you."
>
>"No problem, just let me in," says the man.
>
>"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is
>have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where
>to spend eternity."
>
>"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the
>senator.
>
>"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."
>
>And with that, St. Peter escorts him to th e elevator and he goes
>down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle
>of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front
>of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
>
>Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him,
>shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while
>getting rich at the expense of the people.
>
>They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar
>and champagne.
>
>Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has
>a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time
>that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
>Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator
>rises...
>
>The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St
>Peter is waiting for him.
>"Now it's time to visit heaven."
>
>So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls
>moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a
>good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St.
>Peter returns.
>
>"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now
>choose your eternity."
>
>The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would
>never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think
>I
>would be better off in hell."
>
>So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down
>to hell.
>
>Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a
>barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends,
>dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more
>trash
>falls from above.
>
>The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. "I
>don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and there
>was
>a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank
>champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland
>full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"
>
>The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
>campaigning...... Today you voted."
>That's very good news..
I'm glad that Pulsar and the investors never gave up on their DSP solution.
Even with the pressure of the Pro Native market to just "keep upgrading "
your computer folks. This is where Paris could've landed..
The way I see it is this:
1) You can do the Pulsar/Paris combo and keep everything (In the Box)..
2) Paris-SX/Logic/DP, Pro Tools..and a Mixer (Analog or Digital).
Both with improve the summing of any DAW by leaps and bounds..
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>I'm playing back this 40 track project in SX with the latency set to 3ms.
>Cubase's CPU meter is sitting at around 40% but the system doesn't seem
to
>be even breathing hard. I would have had to up the buffers to at least 512k
>to get a dependable playback with the RME cards.
>
>DJ
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:454edf15@linux...
>> It keeps you on the PC /Mac upgrade path
>>> forever.. Which is dumb!! When you add ut all up , you have already paid
>>> for a turn-key DSP system.
>>
>> Exactly. And don't forget to put in the 'tune' time the poor souls on
>> native have to go through with every new system generally. I think another
>> things we're going to see more problems with is "automatic updates"..
mac
>> and win. No good can come of that for audio guys.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:454ed819$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Dj..Keep us posted. You have peeked my interest in this platform. I do
>>> know
>>> that both Euphonics and Fairlight uses the sharc dsp chips or eventhe
>>> newer
>>> dolphon chips which are great dsps.. Personally, I love dsp systems.
>>>
>>> I know people are all jacked for native systems, but without the proper
>>> dsp,
>>> they've all lacked something..AND, It keeps you on the PC /Mac upgrade
>>> path
>>> forever.. Which is dumb!! When you add ut all up , you have already paid
>>> for a turn-key DSP system.
>>>
>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>>I dunno. It may. This Creamware system may be an acceptable alternative
>>> to
>>>>the Paris mix bus. No kiddin'. It's actually got some headroom. I've
been
>>>
>>>>asking the Pulsar guru's about this. Seems the same DSP that the Scope
>>>>system uses is also used in the Euphonics digital console and the
>>>>Fairlight
>>>
>>>>system. I haven't verified it, but I'
>>>>m playing back that same 37 track project that I was working with in
>>>>Cubase
>>>
>>>>a couple of weeks ago and it sounds big and open when routed via ASIO
>>>>from
>>>
>>>>Cubase to the Scope mixer.
>>>>
>>>>Also, looks like the PCI slot in the mobo survived, but the host card
for
>>>
>>>>the Magma didn't.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>news:454d7d9c@linux...
>>>>> Will the madness never end.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d6c9f@linux...
>>>>>> Heheh!!!! well.....I didn't die, but one of my mobo slots did.
>>>>>> Mmmmm!!!!!......smells like Behringer!!!!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ........don't know............it might have been a defective host
>>>>>> card.......chassis........whatever, but the smell of fried
>>>>>> electronics
>>>
>>>>>> doth
>>>>>> permeate the control room right about now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucky I've got a cheapo backup mobo cause this one is tres toasty!
It
>>>
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> works though. I'm just not going to be running any cards in PCI slot
>>> #3
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> now on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:454d5b2d@linux...
>>>>>>> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13
>>>>>> slotters
>>>>>>> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to
do
>>>
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without
>>>
>>>>>>> Ghost
>>>>>>> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
>>>>>>> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has
to
>>> be
>>>>>>> accomplished or I will die..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Have you tried the second host card in the first Magma?
David.
DJ wrote:
> So far it ain't pretty. A 7 slot and a 13 slot, no problem. Two 13 slotters
> seem to go to war in very a major way......maybe has something to do with
> the system seeing one driver and 26 PCI slots and just throwing in the
> towel. I've already had one crash with irrecoverable errors. Without Ghost
> ........you don't want to even go there. I'm trying to find the magic
> workaround.right now. It's time consuming and tedious but it has to be
> accomplished or I will die..
>
> ;o)
>
>
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Neil,
Good stuff! I'll be waiting.
Tom
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454f4526$1@linux...
Tom, it went pretty well, thanks! I do have a few clips of
some a/b comparisons on the various mics, but before I post
them I want to let this lady hear them & ask her if she
minds if I do so... she was just kind of warming up still when
we did the test takes of a few lines each, but she
was "in-voice" enough to be able to tell which worked best on
her voice.
Piano-wise, we got lucky & nailed it first time as far as
placement goes... no phasing problems or anything like that,
great balance between the lo & hi strings; so that was nice not
having to futz around repositioning things. We used 4 mics on
the piano itself: we stuck a stereo bar on each of 2 mic
stands & used a 414B-ULS & a B.L.U.E. Bluebird (I picked up a
couple of these recently) next to each other on each stereo
bar, and my Earthworks TC-30 Omnis in an ORTF pattern for
room/ambient mics... not too far away - about 5 or 6 feet back
from the end of the piano and slightly off to the left, not
quite 45 degrees, I'd say. ISA-110's on all of them, just
tracked flat with no EQ. Sounds really nice with all 6 channels
just running at equal levels.
I was able to get them to break out one of the C-12's, another
was being used by the guys from this band, who are finishing up
their first CD out there now:
http://www.myspace.com/thisworldfair
Anyway, we ended up being able to a/b the Stephen Paul-modded
U-67, my Mojave MA-200 (which DID sound a lot like the -67,
except with less proximity effect), the C-12, and a Soundelux
E251-C that I snagged a great demo deal on just this past week
(still a lot of freakin' money though - not sure if I'm $2,100
worth of "thrilled" on this mic yet).
For consistency's sake, we used Neve 1073's on all of them for
the comparison tests, and for the key & style in which she was
singing the test takes, the S.P. U-67 was the best (mainly for
the warmth factor - the C-12 didn't have enough "body", the
Soundelux emphasized the midrange too much, and the MA-200 was
actually a close second, but the difference between that one &
the S.P. -67 was that the promiximity effect won out in this
case). Interestingly enough, however, when we got into the
first song itself (they ended up doing two) when she got to
some loud parts, it was sounding a little ragged on the
high's... not fizzy, just some kind of "something not right",
kind of ragged up there so we switched preamps to my Neve
Portico & that smoothed it out.=20
When we got the next song, though, that mic was not working at
ALL - different key, different inflections... had her sing a
couple of lines again into the 251-C & the C-12; the 251-C was
working better on her voice than on the first song, but the
C-12 through a 1073 was better still - that nice, silky-just-
short-of-zingy high end is what did it for that tune.
Will definitely post some clips of the test files if she
doesn't mind.
Neil
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Neil,
>So how did it go?
>Tom
>
>
> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454cc5c7$1@linux...
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
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=3D
>freinds
>
> Hey now, it's not like I get to use this place for free - he
> cuts me a little break, yeah, but it's a business, you know?
> And I gotta give him credit, he keeps the place booked.. when I
> was asking about any weekend times coming up that might be
> available, it was: "Well, we have this coming weekend, and then
> nothing 'til February". How many studios can say that? So yeah,
> he's got a few bucks, but it's not like this studio is just a
> giant toybox for him, either.
>
> Neil
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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used by=20
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there=20
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proximity=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0107_01C70199.387BA5C0--Hi DJ,
Awesome to hear the you got positive results. How many Pulsar cards did
you install? Was it just the one you got for now?
Hopefully it will all work out so that you can finally give up the ghost
of Paris. Maybe you even be able to have time to do enough sessions to
start paying for all this..:)
Chris
DJ wrote:
> I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
> converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to drop
> Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O or 12
> S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo balanced
> AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll have all the
> digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my outboard gear at
> mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds so good that I may be
> doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit or maybe some of those new
> RME units with the autogain control for tracking might eliminate the need
> for a bunch of outboard compressors I use now. I'm not going to get too
> frisky about leaving Paris just yet. There's still a lot to love about it.
> We'll see.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
>> DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front end?
>>
>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>>> It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are
>>> mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have 3
>>> x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which are
>>> configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O and
>>> 20 analog I/O.
>>>
>>> I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just fine
>>> with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
>>> configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
>>> whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more plugins
>>> can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm having to
>>> pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to program my
>>> Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind of secondary
>>> controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>>
>>> I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities of
>>> this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>>
>>> Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>>> tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>>> there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>>> latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>>> bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the tracks
>>> flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone there yet.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:454edbc5@linux...
>>>> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs, latency
>>>> in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>>> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
>>>>> in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>>>>> happening here that sounds different from what is happening when
>>>>> sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my
>>>>> imagination, maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>>>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>>>>> had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>>> hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>>>>> single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There
>>>>> was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to
>>>>> Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't expect
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comheheheh!!!...I can only do this if I decide to sell Paris because if I
decide to keep using Paris, I will need the 24 ADAT I/O on the ADAT plate
for mixing.
It's like making the decision to trade for the Plus plate is pretty much
like making the decision to move totally away from Paris.
It's a tempting thought but it's a move I'm not ready to make yet. Maybe in
a month. I'm going to have to try to run a heavy tracking session with the
Scope system and then do a mix with it. I'll have 22 I/O with Scope (A16U,
Mytek converters into Pulsar II AES and 4 x AD/DA's on Pulsar II and Pulsar
Home cards). That's plenty for any situation around here. If I like it and
it's easy, then I'm likely to be switching platforms for good.
The one thing that bothers me though is that using Scope, I'm still using
two different mixers.........the Cubase mixer and the Scope mixer. I like
the editing power of Cubase. I need to figure out a way to integrate these
two so that I can use a mixer surface with both of them. Maybe a Mackie
controller would do this?
;o)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:454f5c7f$1@linux...
>
> Gotta DJ,
> First come first served.
> I trade my Plus plate (will have it in a couple of days) with your adat
> plate
>
> Cheers,
> Dimitrios
>
> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
>>converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to
>>drop
>
>>Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O or 12
>
>>S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo balanced
>
>>AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll have all
> the
>>digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my outboard gear
> at
>>mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds so good that I may
> be
>>doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit or maybe some of those
> new
>>RME units with the autogain control for tracking might eliminate the need
>
>>for a bunch of outboard compressors I use now. I'm not going to get too
>
>>frisky about leaving Paris just yet. There's still a lot to love about it.
>
>>We'll see.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
>>news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
>>> DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front
>>> end?
>>>
>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>>>> It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are
>
>>>> mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have
> 3
>>>> x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which
> are
>>>> configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O and
>
>>>> 20 analog I/O.
>>>>
>>>> I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just
> fine
>>>> with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
>>>> configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
>
>>>> whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more
>>>> plugins
>
>>>> can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm having to
>
>>>> pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to program my
>
>>>> Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind of
>>>> secondary
>
>>>> controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities
> of
>>>> this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>>>
>>>> Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>>>> tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>
>>>> there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>
>>>> latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>
>>>> bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the tracks
>
>>>> flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone there
>>>> yet.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:454edbc5@linux...
>>>>> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs,
>>>>> latency
>
>>>>> in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>>>> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>>>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual
>>>>>> channels
>
>>>>>> in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>>>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>
>>>>>> happening here that sounds different from what is happening when
>>>>>> sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my
>
>>>>>> imagination, maybe not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>>>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>
>>>>>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>
>>>>>> had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>>>> hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>
>>>>>> single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There
>
>>>>>> was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to
>>>>>> Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't expect
>
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Chris...so far I've got two working in my 7 slot Magma (using mobo PCI slot
#4) with a 3rd one coming with a custom cable that will reach PCI slot #3 in
my mobo. These cards will be on IRQ 17 & 18 of the ASUS A8V-Dlx. The 13 slot
Magma will have the host card in PCI slot #4 and all 4 of the UAD-1 cards
will be on IRQ #19.
So far, so good. I'm really surprised at how much more stable the Pulsar's
are than the RME cards (but we haven;'t added the third Pulsar card yet, now
have we?)
I'm playing back fairly decent track count projects (40) in Cubase SX at 3ms
buffers that would be impossible to to with the RME hardware until I set
buffers to at least 512k.
;o)
;o)
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:454f689d@linux...
> Hi DJ,
> Awesome to hear the you got positive results. How many Pulsar cards did
> you install? Was it just the one you got for now?
> Hopefully it will all work out so that you can finally give up the ghost
> of Paris. Maybe you even be able to have time to do enough sessions to
> start paying for all this..:)
>
> Chris
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
>> converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to
>> drop Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O or
>> 12 S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo
>> balanced AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll
>> have all the digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my
>> outboard gear at mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds
>> so good that I may be doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit
>> or maybe some of those new RME units with the autogain control for
>> tracking might eliminate the need for a bunch of outboard compressors I
>> use now. I'm not going to get too frisky about leaving Paris just yet.
>> There's still a lot to love about it. We'll see.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
>> news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
>>> DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front
>>> end?
>>>
>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>>>> It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are
>>>> mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have
>>>> 3 x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which
>>>> are configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O
>>>> and 20 analog I/O.
>>>>
>>>> I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just
>>>> fine with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
>>>> configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
>>>> whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more
>>>> plugins can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm
>>>> having to pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to
>>>> program my Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind
>>>> of secondary controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities of
>>>> this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>>>
>>>> Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>>>> tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>>>> there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>>>> latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>>>> bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the tracks
>>>> flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone there
>>>> yet.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:454edbc5@linux...
>>>>> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs,
>>>>> latency in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>>>> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>>>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual
>>>>>> channels in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase
>>>>>> summing bus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>>>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>>>>>> happening here that sounds different from what is happening when
>>>>>> sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my
>>>>>> imagination, maybe not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>>>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>>>>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>>>>>> had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>>>> hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>>>>>> single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There
>>>>>> was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to
>>>>>> Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't expect
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.comRight now I've got 2 x Pulsar II cards and a Pulsar Home card with the A16U
AD/DA converter on the way. I ordered these particular cards thinking that
I'd basically recreate my RME > Paris routing scenario.
I purchased the hardware at various places. The last purchase I made was
from a guy named "garyb"
on the PlanetZ forum.
http://www.infinitevortex.com/
One reason I purchased from him is that he has been so incredibly
helpful.taking tech support calls on Sunday even. He's sorta' recognized as
the unofficial American tech support rep. He was recommended to me by Ali
Fawaz who is the North American rep for Creamware.
I have been very pleased with the responsiveness and patience of this whole
community.
The Pulsar forum is a great place to start learning to grok this system.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:454f5ed3$1@linux...
>
> OK, my guru-man... what Pulsar components did you get, how much
> were they, and where did you get them from?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote
>>I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
> in
>>the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>
>>There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any definitive
>
>>statements about it sounding better, but there's something happening here
>
>>that sounds different from what is happening when sending the mix out of
>
>>Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
>>
>>Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency.
>
>>The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and causing
>>dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had to be at
> 12
>>ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. I've been
>>working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or hiccup.
>>That
>
>>was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some sort of issue
>>with
>
>>them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the stability
>>factor......and
>
>>I really didn't expect that.
>>
>>The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>Hey Dimitrios, if you're still selling give me a shout at
tcb at thadbrown dot com
and maybe we can work something out.
TCB
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>If noone wants the Pulsar II card I can keep this and sell the Pulsar I
with
>the following software:
>
>Pulsar Software
>Scope Fusion Platform
>Main Studiotools Package
>Effects Package 1
>Synthesizer Package 1
>Synthesizer Package 2
>VolksZämpler SFP
>STS-2000P
>
>As soon as this card get registered you can download the Scope 4 version.
>
>Selling for 250 $
>Regards,
>DimitriosI don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough for
them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's what
someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show it was).
Tony
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>
> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>
> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
> ballot.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> John wrote:
>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>
>>
>> hehe,
>> John
>>
>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> Love,
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>Could they have been referring to "provisional ballots" rather than
absentee ballots?
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Tony Benson wrote:
> I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
> absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough for
> them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's what
> someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show it was).
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection to
>> come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
>> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>>
>> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
>> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
>> ballot.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed plan
>>> ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>>
>>>
>>> hehe,
>>> John
>>>
>>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Love,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>>
>
>I'm sure they said absentee, but like I said, I wasn't really paying
attention until I heard that comment, then they quit talking about it. :>(
It just struck me wrong, that this would be the case.
Tony
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454f7ebf@linux...
>
> Could they have been referring to "provisional ballots" rather than
> absentee ballots?
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> Tony Benson wrote:
>> I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
>> absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough
>> for them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's
>> what someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show
>> it was).
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>>> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection
>>> to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
>>> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>>>
>>> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
>>> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
>>> ballot.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> John wrote:
>>>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>>>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>>>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>>>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>>>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>>>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hehe,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>>>
>>OK, you're killing me here. Is there anywhere online that has a recommended
mobo/chipset list for Pulsar gear? My debit card is getting all frisky and
wants to buy one of the Scope Pro cards. But I don't need another $1500 dud
sitting in my apartment.Intel CPU's and chipsets are recommended for this card. Call Ali Fawaz at
N.Am tech support and ask him for the bulletproof setup
Creamware Audio USA & Canada
Office: 604-435-0540
support: 604-435-5158
Fax: 604-435-9937
Email: info@creamware.com
Email: support@creamware.com
www.creamware.com
I'm running mine in an ASUS A8V-Deluxe mobo with an AMD 64 4400 x 2 CPU with
no problems at all, but it's one of the *least* recommended mobos out there.
It does, however, play nice with 4 x UAD-1 cards and I'm having no problems
with it. If I was starting from scratch, I'd go with Intel.
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:454f86a7$1@linux...
>
> OK, you're killing me here. Is there anywhere online that has a
> recommended
> mobo/chipset list for Pulsar gear? My debit card is getting all frisky and
> wants to buy one of the Scope Pro cards. But I don't need another $1500
> dud
> sitting in my apartment.As near as I can tell, there are/were Magma, SBS, and Avid branded systems.
They all look identical, so I assume that they were all made by Magma.
Is thre a functional difference between these things?
ThanksI was just jokin man, u probably knowed....
just thought I'd mention it because thats my favorite album
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:C16AB8FB.210F4%tony@standinghampton.com...
>
>
> Tanks Cron.
>
> Tony
>
> On 10/27/06 4:18 PM, in article 45428314@linux, "j-cron"
> <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>
>> Images and Words on SSC's pre release PARIS
>>
>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>> news:45424bf5@linux...
>>> Aaron,
>>>
>>> So do you know which Dream Theater albums were done on Paris?
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:45414827$2@linux...
>>>> Doug O and Dream Theatre.
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:4540e3a6@linux...
>>>>> A Love Affair....the music of Ivan Lins...the song was She Walks This
>>>>> Earth.
>>>>> Sting on lead vocal. Excellent CD. I think this won a Grammy in
>>>>> 2000-01.
>>>>> He
>>>>> may have won other Grammys as well. I think he still uses Paris. Any
>>>>> hits by
>>>>> Markus Miller are likely to involve a Paris system in the production
>>>>> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4540d2c3@linux...
>>>>>> Didn't Jason Miles win a grammy not long ago?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4540cd94@linux...
>>>>>>> Just a little curious. I dont recall seeing a count on our beloved
>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>> group here as to how many hit records, or at least ones that charted
>>>>> ,were
>>>>>>> recorded with paris.
>>>>>>> we all know about BT and the Lonestar track.
>>>>>>> 1)How many of us worldclass engineers have actually hit paydirt
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> paris?
>>>>>>> 2)Has anyone researched the top system(s) used for said hit records?
>>>>>>> I dont want to hear the hype. just the facts, if anyone knows.
>>>>>>> just curious guys,(and girls) no need to start a flame fest here.:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hmmmmmm, I have an Asus AMD board right now but I suppose I could switch pretty
easily. But I'm not sure if I'd go for a new computer _and_ a $1500 DSP card
in one swoop.
Also, you realize that if _both_ of us use this stiff Creamware will not
last the year as a viable commercial entity. They're toast. I've loved so
much audio gear that shriveled in the vine or blew up in my face that companies
should pay big bucks for me to use competing product.
Then again, maybe now that I'm a civilian and not an audio writer that's
all over and I'm no longer rat poison to things like the OASYS PCI card .
. .
TCB
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>Intel CPU's and chipsets are recommended for this card. Call Ali Fawaz at
>N.Am tech support and ask him for the bulletproof setup
>
>Creamware Audio USA & Canada
>Office: 604-435-0540
>support: 604-435-5158
>Fax: 604-435-9937
>Email: info@creamware.com
>Email: support@creamware.com
>www.creamware.com
>
>I'm running mine in an ASUS A8V-Deluxe mobo with an AMD 64 4400 x 2 CPU
with
>no problems at all, but it's one of the *least* recommended mobos out there.
>It does, however, play nice with 4 x UAD-1 cards and I'm having no problems
>with it. If I was starting from scratch, I'd go with Intel.
>
>;o)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:454f86a7$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, you're killing me here. Is there anywhere online that has a
>> recommended
>> mobo/chipset list for Pulsar gear? My debit card is getting all frisky
and
>> wants to buy one of the Scope Pro cards. But I don't need another $1500
>> dud
>> sitting in my apartment.
>
>For absentee ballots returned on or before election day I do not believe
that is the case.
They are counted with a scanning machine in the county where I vote,
which has its own problems, but is probably less hackable than a touch
screen machine and has the advantage of the original paper ballot for
manual recounting as needed.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Tony Benson wrote:
> I'm sure they said absentee, but like I said, I wasn't really paying
> attention until I heard that comment, then they quit talking about it. :>(
> It just struck me wrong, that this would be the case.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454f7ebf@linux...
>> Could they have been referring to "provisional ballots" rather than
>> absentee ballots?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>> I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
>>> absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough
>>> for them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's
>>> what someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what show
>>> it was).
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454e9689@linux...
>>>> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for perfection
>>>> to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least you won't be
>>>> voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>>>>
>>>> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see no
>>>> reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a paper
>>>> ballot.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John wrote:
>>>>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>>>>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right. It's
>>>>> like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5 fingers and
>>>>> says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like the movie war
>>>>> games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>>>>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hehe,
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>>>>
>I did some checking and it looks like that was bogus info from the radio. At
least the federal absentee web site seems to indicate that absentee ballots
will be counted.
Tony
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454fa7be@linux...
>
> For absentee ballots returned on or before election day I do not believe
> that is the case.
>
> They are counted with a scanning machine in the county where I vote, which
> has its own problems, but is probably less hackable than a touch screen
> machine and has the advantage of the original paper ballot for manual
> recounting as needed.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Tony Benson wrote:
>> I'm sure they said absentee, but like I said, I wasn't really paying
>> attention until I heard that comment, then they quit talking about it.
>> :>( It just struck me wrong, that this would be the case.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454f7ebf@linux...
>>> Could they have been referring to "provisional ballots" rather than
>>> absentee ballots?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>>> I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
>>>> absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough
>>>> for them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's
>>>> what someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what
>>>> show it was).
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:454e9689@linux...
>>>>> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for
>>>>> perfection to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least
>>>>> you won't be voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see
>>>>> no reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a
>>>>> paper ballot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>>>>>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right.
>>>>>> It's like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5
>>>>>> fingers and says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like
>>>>>> the movie war games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>>>>>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hehe,
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>>>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>
>As near as I can tell, there are/were Magma, SBS, and Avid branded systems.
> They all look identical, so I assume that they were all made by Magma.
>Is thre a functional difference between these things?
>
>Thanks
The Avid are the same as the Magma. The SBS was not the same as the Magma,
they are a completely different company. Deej had some problems with his
SBS, maybe he can chime in.
JamesIs this setup something mere mortals can configure?? Sounds like you had
no issues. How do you like SX - I have people I have worked with that use
it also and say that it's been stable. Thank you for all the information
- you have really put in a lot of hard work that will make it much easier
for the rest of us!
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>OK, my guru-man... what Pulsar components did you get, how much
>were they, and where did you get them from?
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote
>>I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual channels
>in
>>the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase summing bus.
>>
>>There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any definitive
>
>>statements about it sounding better, but there's something happening here
>
>>that sounds different from what is happening when sending the mix out of
>
>>Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
>>
>>Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms latency.
>
>>The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and causing
>>dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have had to be
at
>12
>>ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME hardware. I've been
>>working in SX for over 5 hours now without one single crash or hiccup.
That
>
>>was unheard of with the RME cards. There was always some sort of issue
with
>
>>them. It was worth the move to Pulsar just for the stability factor......and
>
>>I really didn't expect that.
>>
>>The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>Isn’t torture illegal???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8QBKj6dl28&mode=related& amp;search=Bogus info from a RADIO TALK SHOW?!?
I must say I'm shocked, what IS this world coming to? ;^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Tony Benson wrote:
> I did some checking and it looks like that was bogus info from the radio. At
> least the federal absentee web site seems to indicate that absentee ballots
> will be counted.
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454fa7be@linux...
>> For absentee ballots returned on or before election day I do not believe
>> that is the case.
>>
>> They are counted with a scanning machine in the county where I vote, which
>> has its own problems, but is probably less hackable than a touch screen
>> machine and has the advantage of the original paper ballot for manual
>> recounting as needed.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>> I'm sure they said absentee, but like I said, I wasn't really paying
>>> attention until I heard that comment, then they quit talking about it.
>>> :>( It just struck me wrong, that this would be the case.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:454f7ebf@linux...
>>>> Could they have been referring to "provisional ballots" rather than
>>>> absentee ballots?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony Benson wrote:
>>>>> I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone on the radio saying that
>>>>> absentee ballots aren't even counted unless the margin is small enough
>>>>> for them to make a difference. It doesn't sound right to me, but that's
>>>>> what someone said on some radio talk show (don't even remember what
>>>>> show it was).
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:454e9689@linux...
>>>>>> Well, you're free to vote or not, and sit around waiting for
>>>>>> perfection to come knocking. Hope that works out OK for you. At least
>>>>>> you won't be voting for someone you think is incompetent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm with Sarah, definitely not sitting this one out. And since I see
>>>>>> no reason to trust hackable voting machines, I'm voting absentee on a
>>>>>> paper ballot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't think I've ever been so bored with voting.....at least in my
>>>>>>> lifetime. I won't even bother with it. Penn Gillette is right.
>>>>>>> It's like the Moe, Curly and Larry routine where he holds up 5
>>>>>>> fingers and says "Pick 2" and then pokes you in the eyes, or like
>>>>>>> the movie war games where the only winning strategy is not to play.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm still waiting for a list of the politicians that have a detailed
>>>>>>> plan ready for scrutiny. hmmmmm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hehe,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jamie K wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yep. And vote on a paper ballot if you have the option...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sarah wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's ever been more important to the country . . . at
>>>>>>>>> least not in my lifetime.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>>>>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>
>This will fix everything!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alNEz_U64PI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHShQAGkM6c
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>Isn’t torture illegal???
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8QBKj6dl28&mode=related& amp;search=
>I've seen in the news that Myspace has aquired some anti-copyright technology
of Gracenote to stop people uploading unauthorised material. Anybody know
how it works?
The reason I ask is that I just tried to upload a song I wrote last night
and it's claiming it's a copyrighted peice, and yet I know I wrote it, and
would be quite astounded if anybody else had written the same peice.
Yes it borrows some ideas from Radiohead timing wise, but the timing is definably
different from the Radiohead song from which it was inspired, and the chord
progression, melody etc are totally different. I don't see especially how
any electronicly based monitoring system would pick a minor thing like that
up...?
I'm thinking they're still tweaking the system...
Cheers,
Kim.John <no@no.com> wrote in news:454a98ea$1@linux:
> So, Dale Bradley decides to buy my C16. Yay. Turns out he's from Eugene
> Oregon. Hey, I lived there once on Sherwood Place. Turns out he has a
> brother on Sherwood Place. Hey, my landlord's name was Bradley.
>
> His DAD was my landlord for 4 years from 88 to 92 and it's his brothers
> house and are great people! FAWK !
>
> I have these amazing coincedences about 3 or 4 times a year and this one
> takes the cake. I call them brief religious experiences. Wild !
>
Those things are weird. I once had a pizza delivery guy tell me that he
grew up in the house that I live in now. It would have been an enlightening
experience if the guy wasn't a freakin' fruitcake. I still think that there
may be bodies buried in the concrete floor of the basement. :)
-scott v.Hi Morgan,
I appreciate your complement, however in this situation "hero" may not be
as appropriate a term as "stubborn".
But thanks!
Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>Hi Mike,
>
>Congrats on your hard work . Today I was
>doing homework with my son Logan.
>His assignment was to define " Hero "
>One that acts with courage and bravery despite
>overwhelming odds.
>
>Mike - you are now My Hero !!
>
>Respectfully Yours ,
>
>Morgan :)
>
>
>Mike P wrote:
>> Ok, so it took ten days of total frustration, but I have succeeded!
>> My HP dual core is running Paris flawlessly, and it is awesome. This computer
>> is blazingly fast. I was processing files in wavelab that would have taken
>> 4-5 min on my old cpu, in 52secs.
>> As I have faced every error known to man during this install, and fixed
them,
>> if anyone has questions, please ask.
>> Thanks to everyone who helped along the way.
>I am assuming that you tried to upload an MP3 file. When you created
it, you may have selected the copyright bit flag (wavelab has this).
David.
Kim wrote:
> I've seen in the news that Myspace has aquired some anti-copyright technology
> of Gracenote to stop people uploading unauthorised material. Anybody know
> how it works?
>
> The reason I ask is that I just tried to upload a song I wrote last night
> and it's claiming it's a copyrighted peice, and yet I know I wrote it, and
> would be quite astounded if anybody else had written the same peice.
>
> Yes it borrows some ideas from Radiohead timing wise, but the timing is definably
> different from the Radiohead song from which it was inspired, and the chord
> progression, melody etc are totally different. I don't see especially how
> any electronicly based monitoring system would pick a minor thing like that
> up...?
>
> I'm thinking they're still tweaking the system...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Thad,
I'm building an AMD box for this also using the ASUS A8R-MVP/ X2 4800 by =
Chris Ludwig's
recommendation. I hope it does well with a Scope Pro card for me. I =
won't
buy the Scope card until I have Cubase running flawlessly. But maybe I =
will. . .
I'll be asking questions for sure.
After buying the parts I realized I should of had Chris build it for me. =
It wouldn't
have been much more and surely would run better. =20
I'm a dumb ass,
Tom
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:454fa450$1@linux...
Hmmmmmm, I have an Asus AMD board right now but I suppose I could =
switch pretty
easily. But I'm not sure if I'd go for a new computer _and_ a $1500 =
DSP card
in one swoop.=20
Also, you realize that if _both_ of us use this stiff Creamware will =
not
last the year as a viable commercial entity. They're toast. I've loved =
so
much audio gear that shriveled in the vine or blew up in my face that =
companies
should pay big bucks for me to use competing product.=20
Then again, maybe now that I'm a civilian and not an audio writer =
that's
all over and I'm no longer rat poison to things like the OASYS PCI =
card .
.
TCB
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>Intel CPU's and chipsets are recommended for this card. Call Ali =
Fawaz at
>N.Am tech support and ask him for the bulletproof setup
>
>Creamware Audio USA & Canada
>Office: 604-435-0540
>support: 604-435-5158
>Fax: 604-435-9937
>Email: info@creamware.com
>Email: support@creamware.com
>www.creamware.com
>
>I'm running mine in an ASUS A8V-Deluxe mobo with an AMD 64 4400 x 2 =
CPU
with=20
>no problems at all, but it's one of the *least* recommended mobos out =
there.
>It does, however, play nice with 4 x UAD-1 cards and I'm having no =
problems
>with it. If I was starting from scratch, I'd go with Intel.
>
>;o)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:454f86a7$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, you're killing me here. Is there anywhere online that has a=20
>> recommended
>> mobo/chipset list for Pulsar gear? My debit card is getting all =
frisky
and
>> wants to buy one of the Scope Pro cards. But I don't need another =
$1500
>> dud
>> sitting in my apartment.=20
>
>
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm building an AMD box for this also =
using the=20
ASUS A8R-MVP/ X2 4800 by Chris Ludwig's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>recommendation. I hope it does =
well with a=20
Scope Pro card for me. I won't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>buy the Scope card until I have Cubase =
running=20
flawlessly. But maybe I will. . .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll be asking questions for =
sure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After buying the parts I realized =
I should of=20
had Chris build it for me. It wouldn't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have been much more and surely would =
run=20
better. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm a dumb ass,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"TCB" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:454fa450$1@linux">news:454fa450$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hmmm=
mmm, I=20
have an Asus AMD board right now but I suppose I could switch=20
pretty<BR>easily. But I'm not sure if I'd go for a new computer _and_ =
a $1500=20
DSP card<BR>in one swoop. <BR><BR>Also, you realize that if _both_ of =
us use=20
this stiff Creamware will not<BR>last the year as a viable commercial =
entity.=20
They're toast. I've loved so<BR>much audio gear that shriveled in the =
vine or=20
blew up in my face that companies<BR>should pay big bucks for me to =
use=20
competing product. <BR><BR>Then again, maybe now that I'm a civilian =
and not=20
an audio writer that's<BR>all over and I'm no longer rat poison to =
things like=20
the OASYS PCI card .<BR> .<BR><BR>TCB<BR><BR>"DJ" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:no@way.jack">no@way.jack</A>> wrote:<BR>>Intel =
CPU's and=20
chipsets are recommended for this card. Call Ali Fawaz =
at<BR><BR>>N.Am tech=20
support and ask him for the bulletproof setup<BR>><BR>>Creamware =
Audio=20
USA & Canada<BR>>Office: 604-435-0540<BR>>support:=20
604-435-5158<BR>>Fax: 604-435-9937<BR>>Email: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:info@creamware.com">info@creamware.com</A><BR>>Email: =
<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:support@creamware.com">support@creamware.com</A><BR>>ww=
w.creamware.com<BR>><BR>>I'm=20
running mine in an ASUS A8V-Deluxe mobo with an AMD 64 4400 x 2 =
CPU<BR>with=20
<BR>>no problems at all, but it's one of the *least* recommended =
mobos out=20
there.<BR><BR>>It does, however, play nice with 4 x UAD-1 cards and =
I'm=20
having no problems<BR><BR>>with it. If I was starting from scratch, =
I'd go=20
with Intel.<BR>><BR>>;o)<BR>><BR>> "TCB" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:454f86a7$1@linux">news:454f86a7$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B=
R>>>=20
OK, you're killing me here. Is there anywhere online that has a =
<BR>>>=20
recommended<BR>>> mobo/chipset list for Pulsar gear? My debit =
card is=20
getting all frisky<BR>and<BR>>> wants to buy one of the Scope =
Pro cards.=20
But I don't need another $1500<BR><BR>>> dud<BR>>> sitting =
in my=20
apartment. <BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
you?<BR><A=20
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------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C701D2.96A31AA0--Hey,
I am trying to find the post that had that picture of SSC in front of
the custom console, but can't seem to locate it. Could the person
that posted the pic re-post, or send a link?
Thanks,
David.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHShQAGkM6c
More torture doth not fix torture.....
For the love of God man, don't ever do that again
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:454fb45d$1@linux...
>
> This will fix everything!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alNEz_U64PI
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHShQAGkM6c
>
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>Isn't torture illegal???
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8QBKj6dl28&mode=related& amp;search=
>>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>I am assuming that you tried to upload an MP3 file. When you created
>it, you may have selected the copyright bit flag (wavelab has this).
Interesting. It was an MP3 created in Wavelab, however it used exactly the
same method as all the previous MP3's that I have successfully uploaded.
Indeed I later uploaded a tune using the same method... so it seems unlikely,
though worth checking for sure.
Cheers,
Kim.Ok Kim, you bring up an important subject,
We should all be myspace buds,,,
let's list and join..
There is power in #'s eh?
my band;
http://myspace.com/theblizzardof78
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>I am assuming that you tried to upload an MP3 file. When you created
>>it, you may have selected the copyright bit flag (wavelab has this).
>
>Interesting. It was an MP3 created in Wavelab, however it used exactly the
>same method as all the previous MP3's that I have successfully uploaded.
>Indeed I later uploaded a tune using the same method... so it seems unlikely,
>though worth checking for sure.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Hey Dave! Deej posted it, but here it is.
James
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Hey,
>
>I am trying to find the post that had that picture of SSC in front of
>the custom console, but can't seem to locate it. Could the person
>that posted the pic re-post, or send a link?
>
>Thanks,
>
>David.
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---=_linux454fdba0--Thanks,
Damn, I was hoping for a higher rez picture... I am trying
to identify the console a little more accurately. I know
someone here that is REALLY familiar with Helios desks.
David.
James McCloskey wrote:
> Hey Dave! Deej posted it, but here it is.
>
> James
>
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Hey,
>>
>>I am trying to find the post that had that picture of SSC in front of
>>the custom console, but can't seem to locate it. Could the person
>>that posted the pic re-post, or send a link?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>David.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>I'm playing back a project that I'm so familiar with that it almost sickens
me to listen to it .........that's how many times I've heard it. I can tell
you every sonic nuance in this song ad nauseum for the entire (almost) 4
minutes that it plays.
I've got a totally dry mix of it up in Cubase right now.
I have created 30 stereo ASIO busses in the Creamware control panel and I'm
bussing twenty mono tracks to 20 of these stereo busses (the others will be
reserved for other things later).
When playing this project back, I'm getting something that is close enough
to what I hear with Paris that I think it's going to satisfy me. Not sure
yet. The Paris soundstage may be a little broader, but the jury is still out
on this because I don't have any ambience or delays and ambience and delays
were all over the original mix. Since this mix in it's *dry* state is giving
me something that I find to be sonically similar to what I got in Paris,
that's a promising situation.
I think the pan law in SX may be different than Paris, but I keep hearing on
the Pulsar NG that I should be mixing in the Pulsar mixer rather than the
Cubase mixer so I think the pan law in the Creamware mixer may be a bit
different still. That's a bit of a different animal and I haven't tried it
yet, but as a summing bus, it's giving me a little headroom and the center
of the mix is not collapsing or sounding harsh and muddy.Hi DJ,
I'm pretty sure you might have either had something wrong with one of
the RMEs. I've far more elaborate clock setup and multi-card setups than
what you last had with no performance issues. I wonder if card could
have been damaged with some of those motherboard problems you had in the
past.
If your experiences go well with the cream ware I might look into us
carrying them again. Had too many bad issues in the past but looks like
possibly they might working things out.
Chris
DJ wrote:
>Chris...so far I've got two working in my 7 slot Magma (using mobo PCI slot
>#4) with a 3rd one coming with a custom cable that will reach PCI slot #3 in
>my mobo. These cards will be on IRQ 17 & 18 of the ASUS A8V-Dlx. The 13 slot
>Magma will have the host card in PCI slot #4 and all 4 of the UAD-1 cards
>will be on IRQ #19.
>
>So far, so good. I'm really surprised at how much more stable the Pulsar's
>are than the RME cards (but we haven;'t added the third Pulsar card yet, now
>have we?)
>
>I'm playing back fairly decent track count projects (40) in Cubase SX at 3ms
>buffers that would be impossible to to with the RME hardware until I set
>buffers to at least 512k.
>
>;o)
>
>;o)
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:454f689d@linux...
>
>
>>Hi DJ,
>>Awesome to hear the you got positive results. How many Pulsar cards did
>>you install? Was it just the one you got for now?
>>Hopefully it will all work out so that you can finally give up the ghost
>>of Paris. Maybe you even be able to have time to do enough sessions to
>>start paying for all this..:)
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
>>>converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to
>>>drop Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O or
>>>12 S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo
>>>balanced AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll
>>>have all the digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my
>>>outboard gear at mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds
>>>so good that I may be doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit
>>>or maybe some of those new RME units with the autogain control for
>>>tracking might eliminate the need for a bunch of outboard compressors I
>>>use now. I'm not going to get too frisky about leaving Paris just yet.
>>>There's still a lot to love about it. We'll see.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
>>>news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front
>>>>end?
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities are
>>>>>mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will have
>>>>>3 x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of which
>>>>>are configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an AES I/O
>>>>>and 20 analog I/O.
>>>>>
>>>>>I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just
>>>>>fine with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can be
>>>>>configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed with
>>>>>whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more
>>>>>plugins can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm
>>>>>having to pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to
>>>>>program my Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some kind
>>>>>of secondary controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities of
>>>>>this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>>>>
>>>>>Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>>>>>tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>>>>>there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>>>>>latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>>>>>bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the tracks
>>>>>flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone there
>>>>>yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>news:454edbc5@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs,
>>>>>>latency in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>>>>>Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual
>>>>>>>channels in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase
>>>>>>>summing bus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>>>>>definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's something
>>>>>>>happening here that sounds different from what is happening when
>>>>>>>sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME Totalmix. Maybe my
>>>>>>>imagination, maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>>>>>latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>>>>>>causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>>>>>>>had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>>>>>hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>>>>>>>single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards. There
>>>>>>>was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move to
>>>>>>>Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't expect
>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
Is anyone here using this unit?
I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality pre for
under $800.00
Any opinions, recommendations?didn't care for it.
w
"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:454ff110@linux...
> http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
>
> Is anyone here using this unit?
> I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality pre
> for under $800.00
>
> Any opinions, recommendations?
>I purchased an 8 out card from David John. Smooth transaction...packed incredibly
well!
Thanks David!http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20538
C'mon folks, we all like the stories and all but this isn't a cry for help
I don't know what is. Does anyone live near enough to get him help in person
or does one of us have to fly to Colorado? I think with my politics I'll
wind up at Gitmo after touching down in Denver, but maybe that's the only
option . . .Hehehe!!!!!.............c'mon out to Colorado Thad.
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:455001c0$1@linux...
>
> http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20538
>
> C'mon folks, we all like the stories and all but this isn't a cry for help
> I don't know what is. Does anyone live near enough to get him help in
> person
> or does one of us have to fly to Colorado? I think with my politics I'll
> wind up at Gitmo after touching down in Denver, but maybe that's the only
> option . . .Bump. Desperate for help.
Rich
"Rich Kelley" <rich_and_barbara@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>I've recently picked up a couple Nvidia NVS 280 video cards. I'm not seeing
>my second monitor when I run the cards with the DVI splitter cable and DVI
>into both monitors. The second monitor never detects any signal, even at
>boot up. Interestingly, if I put a DVI to VGA adapter on the second DVI
>out connector and run the signal into the monitor as analog I CAN see the
>second monitor.
>
>Everything else works. Dual mode in analog (VGA) has no problems. I've
>checked the monitors, the cables, etc., all the parts work. I loaded the
>latest drivers from Nvidia, no change. I have two of the DVI splitter cables
>and they both give the same result. I have two of the NVS 280 cards and
>they both work the same too.
>
>I've found one post via Google where someone was discussing this problem
>and found the special DVI splitter cable was the issue. I have Molex splitters,
>both VGA and DVI. He had a PNY version of the card and found that he needed
>a PNY splitter. My cards just say Nvidia, though I know that they're sold
>through PNY, HP, Compact, and others.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>
>RichOh he'll be alright, he just needs a new toy.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20538
>
>C'mon folks, we all like the stories and all but this isn't a cry for help
>I don't know what is. Does anyone live near enough to get him help in person
>or does one of us have to fly to Colorado? I think with my politics I'll
>wind up at Gitmo after touching down in Denver, but maybe that's the only
>option . . .A lot of people seam to be disappointed with them. You might want to do a
search and see what people have to say about them on gearslutz.com.
James
"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>didn't care for it.
>
>w
>
>
>"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:454ff110@linux...
>> http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
>>
>> Is anyone here using this unit?
>> I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality pre
>> for under $800.00
>>
>> Any opinions, recommendations?
>>
>
>Imagine being able to have the functionality of Cubase SX, being able to
track with FX with zero latency, being able to bus anything anywhere and to
insert anything anywhere, have a motorized control surface, being able to
use UAD-1 cards and external hardware with latency compensation and to be
able to accomplish this all on one computer at 24 bit with no truncation,
clocking hassles, no wondering if the boot sequence will work *this
time*.........no needing to use Windows ME because you need 8 x ADAT modules
to *talk to* the outside world and a mix bus that sounds as big as Paris .
I'm not sure I'm there yet and I want to see how Chuck's project comes out
before I decide to sell my stuff, but believe it or not, I'm actually tired
of workarounds. I'll hang in there for the sound if I can't achieve it
another way but I may have found something here I can live with and then
some. I'm getting *big* out of this thing and I've just scratched the
surface. Yeah, I know how to work around just about anything these days but
I'm a man on a mission. It's no longer much fun to see what I can get away
with. Been there, done that.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45500c3c$1@linux...
>
> Oh he'll be alright, he just needs a new toy.
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20538
>>
>>C'mon folks, we all like the stories and all but this isn't a cry for help
>>I don't know what is. Does anyone live near enough to get him help in
>>person
>>or does one of us have to fly to Colorado? I think with my politics I'll
>>wind up at Gitmo after touching down in Denver, but maybe that's the only
>>option . . .
>OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHShQAGkM6c
>
>More torture doth not fix torture.....
>For the love of God man, don't ever do that again
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:454fb45d$1@linux...
>>
>> This will fix everything!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alNEz_U64PI
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHShQAGkM6c
>>
>>
>> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Isn't torture illegal???
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8QBKj6dl28&mode=related& amp;search=
>>>
>>
>
>Chris,
The cards all work perfectly on their own. They were also stable when
receiving clock individually from cables of equal length. Less so when
slaved to ADAT or WC and then daisy chained. My routing scenario became so
convoluted here that clocking 3 x units (daisy chained or not) with cables
of varying lengths could have been the last nail. I think it was more the
clocking. There were a lot of cables of different lengths and other
variables that are definitely "no-no's" The single cable scenario seems to
have worked with the Pulsar. It also worked if I had just a single RME card
being clocked from Paris.....and would have probably worked OK with a MADI.
;o)
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:454feea7@linux...
> Hi DJ,
> I'm pretty sure you might have either had something wrong with one of the
> RMEs. I've far more elaborate clock setup and multi-card setups than what
> you last had with no performance issues. I wonder if card could have been
> damaged with some of those motherboard problems you had in the past.
>
> If your experiences go well with the cream ware I might look into us
> carrying them again. Had too many bad issues in the past but looks like
> possibly they might working things out.
>
> Chris
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>>Chris...so far I've got two working in my 7 slot Magma (using mobo PCI
>>slot #4) with a 3rd one coming with a custom cable that will reach PCI
>>slot #3 in my mobo. These cards will be on IRQ 17 & 18 of the ASUS
>>A8V-Dlx. The 13 slot Magma will have the host card in PCI slot #4 and all
>>4 of the UAD-1 cards will be on IRQ #19.
>>
>>So far, so good. I'm really surprised at how much more stable the Pulsar's
>>are than the RME cards (but we haven;'t added the third Pulsar card yet,
>>now have we?)
>>
>>I'm playing back fairly decent track count projects (40) in Cubase SX at
>>3ms buffers that would be impossible to to with the RME hardware until I
>>set buffers to at least 512k.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:454f689d@linux...
>>
>>>Hi DJ,
>>>Awesome to hear the you got positive results. How many Pulsar cards did
>>>you install? Was it just the one you got for now?
>>>Hopefully it will all work out so that you can finally give up the ghost
>>>of Paris. Maybe you even be able to have time to do enough sessions to
>>>start paying for all this..:)
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
>>>>converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to
>>>>drop Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O
>>>>or 12 S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo
>>>>balanced AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll
>>>>have all the digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my
>>>>outboard gear at mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds
>>>>so good that I may be doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit
>>>>or maybe some of those new RME units with the autogain control for
>>>>tracking might eliminate the need for a bunch of outboard compressors I
>>>>use now. I'm not going to get too frisky about leaving Paris just yet.
>>>>There's still a lot to love about it. We'll see.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front
>>>>>end?
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities
>>>>>>are mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will
>>>>>>have 3 x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of
>>>>>>which are configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an
>>>>>>AES I/O and 20 analog I/O.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just
>>>>>>fine with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can
>>>>>>be configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed
>>>>>>with whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more
>>>>>>plugins can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm
>>>>>>having to pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to
>>>>>>program my Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some
>>>>>>kind of secondary controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities
>>>>>>of this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>>>>>>tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>>>>>>there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>>>>>>latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>>>>>>bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the
>>>>>>tracks flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone
>>>>>>there yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:454edbc5@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs,
>>>>>>>latency in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>>>>>>Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual
>>>>>>>>channels in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase
>>>>>>>>summing bus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>>>>>>definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's
>>>>>>>>something happening here that sounds different from what is
>>>>>>>>happening when sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME
>>>>>>>>Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>>>>>>latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>>>>>>>causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>>>>>>>>had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>>>>>>hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>>>>>>>>single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards.
>>>>>>>>There was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move
>>>>>>>>to Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't
>>>>>>>>expect that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762http://clients.oznet.com/cedarcrest/woods87.html
This is where I got the pic. It's at the bottom. Maybe you can save it in a
hirez format, but it's pretty much a thumbnail I think. Good luck.
;o)
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:454feb65$1@linux...
> Thanks,
>
> Damn, I was hoping for a higher rez picture... I am trying to identify the
> console a little more accurately. I know someone here that is REALLY
> familiar with Helios desks.
>
> David.
>
> James McCloskey wrote:
>> Hey Dave! Deej posted it, but here it is.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hey,
>>>
>>>I am trying to find the post that had that picture of SSC in front of the
>>>custom console, but can't seem to locate it. Could the person that
>>>posted the pic re-post, or send a link?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>Paris compatible, of course :)
Anyone having great success with a Dual Core Intel chipset rig?
AA"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>Right now I've got 2 x Pulsar II cards and a Pulsar Home card with the A16U
>AD/DA converter on the way. I ordered these particular cards thinking that
>I'd basically recreate my RME > Paris routing scenario.
>
>I purchased the hardware at various places. The last purchase I made was
>from a guy named "garyb"
>on the PlanetZ forum.
>
>http://www.infinitevortex.com/
>
>One reason I purchased from him is that he has been so incredibly
>helpful.taking tech support calls on Sunday even. He's sorta' recognized
as
>the unofficial American tech support rep. He was recommended to me by Ali
>Fawaz who is the North American rep for Creamware.
Well, he must be awfully busy selling Pulsar cards, then;
because I sent him an e-mail inquiry this morning - mere
moments after you psoted this, in fact - as to what components
it would take to achieve what I want & what the price would
be, and I haven't heard fuck-all back from him yet.
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I'm no expert but I would think following the Creamware path regarding =
processors and chipsets may also prove stable for Paris.
This is what Gary (Creamware expert/user/salesman) suggested to me for =
Creamware use:
"as to the computer, i would personally use an intel conroe processor =
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know both setups are rock solid, cheap and offer excellent performance."
I got an AMD dual core by Chris L.'s suggestion. This was to keep the =
cost down and the ability to run
ridiculous amounts of Kontakt voices while sharing the PCI bus with a =
Creamware 14 chip card. I guess
the ATI chipset is no bargain for the PCI bus and the Lan throughput =
compared to the Conroe/Intel above.
I haven't looked all that closely at it but you should if you have the =
time and money.
Inexpensively yours,
Tom
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Anyone having great success with a Dual Core Intel chipset rig?
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------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01C70213.BB59B0C0--The Creation Of Michigan
Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six
days.
Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh
day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"
God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards
through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"
"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it. I'm going to
call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
"Balance?", inquired Michael, still confused.
God explained, pointing to different parts of earth,
"For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and
wealth while southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over
there will be a hot spot. Over here I've placed a continent of white
people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued,
pointing to different countries.
"This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very
cold and covered in ice.
The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a large land
mass and said, "What's that one?"
"Ah," said God. "That's Michigan , the most glorious place on earth.
You'll notice that it is made in the fashion of my hand, the Hand of
God. There are beautiful lakes, rivers, sunsets and rolling hills. The
people from Michigan are going to be modest, intelligent and
humorous and they are going to be found traveling the world. They will
be extremely sociable, hard working and high achieving, and they will
be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace."
Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed,"What
about balance, God?" "You said there would be balance!"
God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots I'm putting around
them in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Canada"
Only someone who has grown up in Michigan would
forward this e-mail!!yes and lets all start singing that "high hopes" song. and while
we're at it maybe we can get that bottle of vodka out of johns
hands...yeah right...
On 7 Nov 2006 14:47:12 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20538
>
>C'mon folks, we all like the stories and all but this isn't a cry for help
>I don't know what is. Does anyone live near enough to get him help in person
>or does one of us have to fly to Colorado? I think with my politics I'll
>wind up at Gitmo after touching down in Denver, but maybe that's the only
>option . . ."cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>my band;
>http://myspace.com/theblizzardof78
I sent you an add. I'm "Dr Schnauberg"...
http://www.myspace.com/drschnauberg
>
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>I am assuming that you tried to upload an MP3 file. When you created
>>>it, you may have selected the copyright bit flag (wavelab has this).
>>
>>Interesting. It was an MP3 created in Wavelab, however it used exactly
the
>>same method as all the previous MP3's that I have successfully uploaded.
>>Indeed I later uploaded a tune using the same method... so it seems unlikely,
>>though worth checking for sure.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>Maybe we can get DJ some bands so record. That should take his mind off
the diddling. Kind of mercy recordings. I hate the diddling here. I
just want to make music.
John
DJ wrote:
> Chris,
>
> The cards all work perfectly on their own. They were also stable when
> receiving clock individually from cables of equal length. Less so when
> slaved to ADAT or WC and then daisy chained. My routing scenario became so
> convoluted here that clocking 3 x units (daisy chained or not) with cables
> of varying lengths could have been the last nail. I think it was more the
> clocking. There were a lot of cables of different lengths and other
> variables that are definitely "no-no's" The single cable scenario seems to
> have worked with the Pulsar. It also worked if I had just a single RME card
> being clocked from Paris.....and would have probably worked OK with a MADI.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:454feea7@linux...
>> Hi DJ,
>> I'm pretty sure you might have either had something wrong with one of the
>> RMEs. I've far more elaborate clock setup and multi-card setups than what
>> you last had with no performance issues. I wonder if card could have been
>> damaged with some of those motherboard problems you had in the past.
>>
>> If your experiences go well with the cream ware I might look into us
>> carrying them again. Had too many bad issues in the past but looks like
>> possibly they might working things out.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>
>>> Chris...so far I've got two working in my 7 slot Magma (using mobo PCI
>>> slot #4) with a 3rd one coming with a custom cable that will reach PCI
>>> slot #3 in my mobo. These cards will be on IRQ 17 & 18 of the ASUS
>>> A8V-Dlx. The 13 slot Magma will have the host card in PCI slot #4 and all
>>> 4 of the UAD-1 cards will be on IRQ #19.
>>>
>>> So far, so good. I'm really surprised at how much more stable the Pulsar's
>>> are than the RME cards (but we haven;'t added the third Pulsar card yet,
>>> now have we?)
>>>
>>> I'm playing back fairly decent track count projects (40) in Cubase SX at
>>> 3ms buffers that would be impossible to to with the RME hardware until I
>>> set buffers to at least 512k.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>> news:454f689d@linux...
>>>
>>>> Hi DJ,
>>>> Awesome to hear the you got positive results. How many Pulsar cards did
>>>> you install? Was it just the one you got for now?
>>>> Hopefully it will all work out so that you can finally give up the ghost
>>>> of Paris. Maybe you even be able to have time to do enough sessions to
>>>> start paying for all this..:)
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a Mytek converter (and was sometimes using my RME Multiface
>>>>> converters) and I have ordered the Creamware A16 Ultra. If I decide to
>>>>> drop Paris altogether, I'll probably trade the ADAT plate (24 ADAT I/O
>>>>> or 12 S/Mux) on one of my cards for a Plus Plate (stereo AES, Stereo
>>>>> balanced AD/DA, 16 ADAT configurable to two pair optical s/pdif and I'll
>>>>> have all the digital routing capabhilities I'll ever likely need for my
>>>>> outboard gear at mixdown.If I decide to even use it. This things sounds
>>>>> so good that I may be doing more stuff ITB. Some Apogees with softlimit
>>>>> or maybe some of those new RME units with the autogain control for
>>>>> tracking might eliminate the need for a bunch of outboard compressors I
>>>>> use now. I'm not going to get too frisky about leaving Paris just yet.
>>>>> There's still a lot to love about it. We'll see.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:454f4fe0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ, What are you using for converters when not using the paris front
>>>>>> end?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ee1b9@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It integrates wonderfully with Cubase and the routing possibilities
>>>>>>> are mind boggling. When everything gets here next week my system will
>>>>>>> have 3 x cards with a total of 20 DSP processors, 56 x ADAT I/O (32 of
>>>>>>> which are configurable to s/pdif pairs) plus a coaxial s/pdif I/O, an
>>>>>>> AES I/O and 20 analog I/O.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just got the first mix happening on it tonight. It integrates just
>>>>>>> fine with Cubase SX though I'm not sure exactly how many ways it can
>>>>>>> be configured. Right now I've got 40 tracks in Cubase being processed
>>>>>>> with whatever UAD-1 plugins and ASIO'ed to the Scope mixer where more
>>>>>>> plugins can be applied if needed. Since I'm sending mono tracks, I'm
>>>>>>> having to pan in Scope. I'm going to try to get my head around how to
>>>>>>> program my Steiny Houston controller to do this or get myself some
>>>>>>> kind of secondary controller and map it to the Scope environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm a long way from getting my head totally around the possibilities
>>>>>>> of this................but it's very nice, and very stable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paris' days may be numbered after all. I';ll have to see how I like
>>>>>>> tracking on this system first. Paris is the best tracking system out
>>>>>>> there IMHO. I think it's possible to track somehow in Scope with zero
>>>>>>> latency, just like in Paris. There's something called a VDAT recorder
>>>>>>> bundled with the system. I guess this could be used and then the
>>>>>>> tracks flown into Cubase for editing and mixing. I just haven't gone
>>>>>>> there yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:454edbc5@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does that integrate with the native apps? Mix recall, plugs,
>>>>>>>> latency in ASIO ( and is that 1 or 2 )?
>>>>>>>> Inquiring minds really wanna know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote in message news:454ea433@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm playing back a mix in Cubase SX but summing the individual
>>>>>>>>> channels in the Creamware mixer/summing bus instead of the Cubase
>>>>>>>>> summing bus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's something different going on. I'm not going to make any
>>>>>>>>> definitive statements about it sounding better, but there's
>>>>>>>>> something happening here that sounds different from what is
>>>>>>>>> happening when sending the mix out of Cubase SX through the RME
>>>>>>>>> Totalmix. Maybe my imagination, maybe not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I'm playing back a 40 track project with this system at 3ms
>>>>>>>>> latency. The SX CPU meter is at around 40% but it is not spiking and
>>>>>>>>> causing dropouts. The RME cards were much less stable. I would have
>>>>>>>>> had to be at 12 ms to achieve this kind of stability with the RME
>>>>>>>>> hardware. I've been working in SX for over 5 hours now without one
>>>>>>>>> single crash or hiccup. That was unheard of with the RME cards.
>>>>>>>>> There was always some sort of issue with them. It was worth the move
>>>>>>>>> to Pulsar just for the stability factor......and I really didn't
>>>>>>>>> expect that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The more I use this system, the better I like it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>
>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>
>It doesn't have to satisfy you. It has to satisfy your wife!
DJ wrote:
> I'm playing back a project that I'm so familiar with that it almost sickens
> me to listen to it .........that's how many times I've heard it. I can tell
> you every sonic nuance in this song ad nauseum for the entire (almost) 4
> minutes that it plays.
>
> I've got a totally dry mix of it up in Cubase right now.
>
> I have created 30 stereo ASIO busses in the Creamware control panel and I'm
> bussing twenty mono tracks to 20 of these stereo busses (the others will be
> reserved for other things later).
>
> When playing this project back, I'm getting something that is close enough
> to what I hear with Paris that I think it's going to satisfy me. Not sure
> yet. The Paris soundstage may be a little broader, but the jury is still out
> on this because I don't have any ambience or delays and ambience and delays
> were all over the original mix. Since this mix in it's *dry* state is giving
> me something that I find to be sonically similar to what I got in Paris,
> that's a promising situation.
>
> I think the pan law in SX may be different than Paris, but I keep hearing on
> the Pulsar NG that I should be mixing in the Pulsar mixer rather than the
> Cubase mixer so I think the pan law in the Creamware mixer may be a bit
> different still. That's a bit of a different animal and I haven't tried it
> yet, but as a summing bus, it's giving me a little headroom and the center
> of the mix is not collapsing or sounding harsh and muddy.
>
>
>
>Thanks Dedric
Worked like a charm
Don
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C173619E.5165%dterry@keyofd.net...
> Don,
>
> Probably the simplest way would be to select all of the events on that
> track, glue them together (glue tool) into a single part, drag the start
> of
> that part to 00:00 if necessary (just be sure the selection tool isn't on
> time compress/expand or move contents). Select the part, and right click
> to
> Audio - Bounce Selection. This will create a new audio event in the pool,
> without plugins.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 11/5/06 8:45 AM, in article 454e04e9$1@linux, "Don Nafe"
> <dnafe@magma.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> If I want to do the equivilant of rendering without plugs or Nuendo
>> dynamics, level or pan settings how do I do this?
>>
>> reason: I've got a slew of little bits and pieces all over the place and
>> need a "0" start point as Paris won't read the time stamp on these files
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say "Not
yet but I will when I get to the polls".
hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to learn all
you need about who you are voting for.
ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, my criteria is that they have to have
a written plan with details of what they will commit to doing if they are
elected with timelines, budgets and where the money is coming from. Easy,
huh !!
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>
>I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>
>Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say "Not
>yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>
>hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to learn
all
>you need about who you are voting for.
>
>ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>
>Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!Hi Aaron,
Current Core2 and Quad Core ready chip sets would be the 965 and 975
versions only.
Chris
Aaron Allen wrote:
>Paris compatible, of course :)
>Anyone having great success with a Dual Core Intel chipset rig?
>
>AA
>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762I had a 7 slot SBS. Any 7 slot chassis is going to have fewer PCI bus
options than a 13 slot chassis. It's all about keeping certain cards off
certain IRQ's. The more options you have, the better.
Deej
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:454fadea$1@linux...
>
> "Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote:
>>
>>As near as I can tell, there are/were Magma, SBS, and Avid branded
>>systems.
>> They all look identical, so I assume that they were all made by Magma.
>
>>Is thre a functional difference between these things?
>>
>>Thanks
>
> The Avid are the same as the Magma. The SBS was not the same as the
> Magma,
> they are a completely different company. Deej had some problems with his
> SBS, maybe he can chime in.
>
> James
>A guy in my band has one of the old single rack ones,
Not that great, thin,
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>A lot of people seam to be disappointed with them. You might want to do
a
>search and see what people have to say about them on gearslutz.com.
>
>James
>
>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>didn't care for it.
>>
>>w
>>
>>
>>"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:454ff110@linux...
>>> http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
>>>
>>> Is anyone here using this unit?
>>> I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality pre
>
>>> for under $800.00
>>>
>>> Any opinions, recommendations?
>>>
>>
>>
>Thanks, but it's still the same size and difficult to make anything out.
David.
DJ wrote:
> http://clients.oznet.com/cedarcrest/woods87.html
>
> This is where I got the pic. It's at the bottom. Maybe you can save it in a
> hirez format, but it's pretty much a thumbnail I think. Good luck.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:454feb65$1@linux...
>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Damn, I was hoping for a higher rez picture... I am trying to identify the
>>console a little more accurately. I know someone here that is REALLY
>>familiar with Helios desks.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>
>>>Hey Dave! Deej posted it, but here it is.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey,
>>>>
>>>>I am trying to find the post that had that picture of SSC in front of the
>>>>custom console, but can't seem to locate it. Could the person that
>>>>posted the pic re-post, or send a link?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>>>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>Right now I've got 2 x Pulsar II cards and a Pulsar Home card with the
A16U
>
>>AD/DA converter on the way. I ordered these particular cards thinking that
>
>>I'd basically recreate my RME > Paris routing scenario.
>>
>>I purchased the hardware at various places. The last purchase I made was
>
>>from a guy named "garyb"
>>on the PlanetZ forum.
>>
>>http://www.infinitevortex.com/
>>
>>One reason I purchased from him is that he has been so incredibly
>>helpful.taking tech support calls on Sunday even. He's sorta' recognized
>as
>>the unofficial American tech support rep. He was recommended to me by Ali
>
>>Fawaz who is the North American rep for Creamware.
>
>Well, he must be awfully busy selling Pulsar cards, then;
>because I sent him an e-mail inquiry this morning - mere
>moments after you psoted this, in fact - as to what components
>it would take to achieve what I want & what the price would
>be, and I haven't heard fuck-all back from him yet.
OK, he got back to me now... kewl - I had a few more questions
for him, based on his replies, then perhaps it's "follow the
Pulsar-bricked road" for me too!
NeilSir Deej...
1.) You said you got the "Home" card, yes? Does that card come
with A/D & D/A convertors or did you have to buy them separately?
2.) If it doesn't come with convertors, what do the i/o's
consist of? Just a bunch of lightpipe sockets? SPDIF?
3.) Can you sum though it, run a couple of 'verbs, and a dozen
or so instances of let's say compressors & the like at the same
time?
NeilMICHIGAN SUCKS!
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Creation Of Michigan
>
>Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six
>days.
>Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh
>day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"
>
>God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards
>through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made."
>
>Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"
>
>"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it. I'm going to
>call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
>
>"Balance?", inquired Michael, still confused.
>
>God explained, pointing to different parts of earth,
>
>"For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and
>wealth while southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over
>there will be a hot spot. Over here I've placed a continent of white
>people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued,
>pointing to different countries.
>
> "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very
>cold and covered in ice.
>
>The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a large land
>mass and said, "What's that one?"
>
>"Ah," said God. "That's Michigan , the most glorious place on earth.
>You'll notice that it is made in the fashion of my hand, the Hand of
>God. There are beautiful lakes, rivers, sunsets and rolling hills. The
>people from Michigan are going to be modest, intelligent and
>humorous and they are going to be found traveling the world. They will
>be extremely sociable, hard working and high achieving, and they will
>be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace."
>
>Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed,"What
>about balance, God?" "You said there would be balance!"
>
>God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots I'm putting around
>them in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Canada"
>
>Only someone who has grown up in Michigan would
>forward this e-mail!!
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Creation Of Michigan
>
>Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six
>days.
>Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh
>day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"
>
>God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards
>through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made."
>
>Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"
>
>"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it. I'm going to
>call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
>
>"Balance?", inquired Michael, still confused.
>
>God explained, pointing to different parts of earth,
>
>"For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and
>wealth while southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over
>there will be a hot spot. Over here I've placed a continent of white
>people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued,
>pointing to different countries.
>
> "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very
>cold and covered in ice.
>
>The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a large land
>mass and said, "What's that one?"
>
>"Ah," said God. "That's Michigan , the most glorious place on earth.
>You'll notice that it is made in the fashion of my hand, the Hand of
>God. There are beautiful lakes, rivers, sunsets and rolling hills. The
>people from Michigan are going to be modest, intelligent and
>humorous and they are going to be found traveling the world. They will
>be extremely sociable, hard working and high achieving, and they will
>be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace."
>
>Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed,"What
>about balance, God?" "You said there would be balance!"
>
>God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots I'm putting around
>them in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Canada"
>
>Only someone who has grown up in Michigan would
>forward this e-mail!!
>
>
For balance, God gave Michigan the smell of grain elevators.
Gene :-)yes, it is not real good. Focusrite have made the Platinum series in China,
nothing sounds like it once was. This is like a Behringer with a big name
and price tag.
"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>A guy in my band has one of the old single rack ones,
>Not that great, thin,
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>A lot of people seam to be disappointed with them. You might want to do
>a
>>search and see what people have to say about them on gearslutz.com.
>>
>>James
>>
>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>didn't care for it.
>>>
>>>w
>>>
>>>
>>>"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:454ff110@linux...
>>>> http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here using this unit?
>>>> I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality
pre
>>
>>>> for under $800.00
>>>>
>>>> Any opinions, recommendations?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>FWIW, the ISA series is also made in china, but sounds really good for
the money. Personally, I would stay away from all things Platinum in
the Focusrite line.
David.
fernando wrote:
> yes, it is not real good. Focusrite have made the Platinum series in China,
> nothing sounds like it once was. This is like a Behringer with a big name
> and price tag.
>
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>A guy in my band has one of the old single rack ones,
>>Not that great, thin,
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>A lot of people seam to be disappointed with them. You might want to do
>>
>>a
>>
>>>search and see what people have to say about them on gearslutz.com.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>didn't care for it.
>>>>
>>>>w
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:454ff110@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>Is anyone here using this unit?
>>>>>I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality
>
> pre
>
>>>>>for under $800.00
>>>>>
>>>>>Any opinions, recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>I had a 7 slot SBS. Any 7 slot chassis is going to have fewer PCI bus
>options than a 13 slot chassis. It's all about keeping certain cards off
>certain IRQ's. The more options you have, the better.
>
I am planning to use this pretty much only for a set of UAD-1 cards. I thought
that multiple UAD-1 cards took care of IRQ assignments themselves. But that
may be naive. :)I don't see where your herein-written plan to not vote is going to lead to
the things you say you want written.
Maybe it's just my twisted perception, but I think that in more than one
way, you just voted for exactly what you don't want.
W.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550876f$1@linux...
>
> Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, my criteria is that they have to have
> a written plan with details of what they will commit to doing if they are
> elected with timelines, budgets and where the money is coming from.
> Easy,
> huh !!
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>
>>I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>
>>Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say "Not
>>yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>
>>hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to learn
> all
>>you need about who you are voting for.
>>
>>ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>
>>Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>Thanks so much guys for the input, what about one of these, any opinions?
-Toft EC-1 single channel preamp
- JoeMeek OneQ single channel preamp
-JoeMeek sixQ single channel preamp
Opinions are quite varied over at Gearslutz but these seem to stand out in
the 'bellow 1000 price range'.
I know the new Meek stuff is not the same but I wonder if it still good?
Cheers
Rob the future Pulsar/Paris geek #2....!!! Wonder who's #1.....!!
-
"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:454ff110@linux...
> http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
>
> Is anyone here using this unit?
> I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality pre
> for under $800.00
>
> Any opinions, recommendations?
>sorry but the horse and dairy farms up wind of me prevent that from
happening gene...
james...i think you just pissed off santa...
On 8 Nov 2006 04:40:28 +1000, "gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>The Creation Of Michigan
>>
>>Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six
>>days.
>>Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh
>>day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"
>>
>>God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards
>>through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made."
>>
>>Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"
>>
>>"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it. I'm going to
>>call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
>>
>>"Balance?", inquired Michael, still confused.
>>
>>God explained, pointing to different parts of earth,
>>
>>"For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and
>>wealth while southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over
>>there will be a hot spot. Over here I've placed a continent of white
>>people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued,
>>pointing to different countries.
>>
>> "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very
>>cold and covered in ice.
>>
>>The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a large land
>>mass and said, "What's that one?"
>>
>>"Ah," said God. "That's Michigan , the most glorious place on earth.
>>You'll notice that it is made in the fashion of my hand, the Hand of
>>God. There are beautiful lakes, rivers, sunsets and rolling hills. The
>>people from Michigan are going to be modest, intelligent and
>>humorous and they are going to be found traveling the world. They will
>>be extremely sociable, hard working and high achieving, and they will
>>be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace."
>>
>>Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed,"What
>>about balance, God?" "You said there would be balance!"
>>
>>God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots I'm putting around
>>them in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Canada"
>>
>>Only someone who has grown up in Michigan would
>>forward this e-mail!!
>>
>>
>
>
>For balance, God gave Michigan the smell of grain elevators.
>Gene :-)i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>
>I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>
>Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say "Not
>yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>
>hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to learn all
>you need about who you are voting for.
>
>ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>
>Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh...i'd stay out of texarado ifin i was
you pardner.
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 07:15:18 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>It doesn't have to satisfy you. It has to satisfy your wife!
>
>DJ wrote:
>> I'm playing back a project that I'm so familiar with that it almost sickens
>> me to listen to it .........that's how many times I've heard it. I can tell
>> you every sonic nuance in this song ad nauseum for the entire (almost) 4
>> minutes that it plays.
>>
>> I've got a totally dry mix of it up in Cubase right now.
>>
>> I have created 30 stereo ASIO busses in the Creamware control panel and I'm
>> bussing twenty mono tracks to 20 of these stereo busses (the others will be
>> reserved for other things later).
>>
>> When playing this project back, I'm getting something that is close enough
>> to what I hear with Paris that I think it's going to satisfy me. Not sure
>> yet. The Paris soundstage may be a little broader, but the jury is still out
>> on this because I don't have any ambience or delays and ambience and delays
>> were all over the original mix. Since this mix in it's *dry* state is giving
>> me something that I find to be sonically similar to what I got in Paris,
>> that's a promising situation.
>>
>> I think the pan law in SX may be different than Paris, but I keep hearing on
>> the Pulsar NG that I should be mixing in the Pulsar mixer rather than the
>> Cubase mixer so I think the pan law in the Creamware mixer may be a bit
>> different still. That's a bit of a different animal and I haven't tried it
>> yet, but as a summing bus, it's giving me a little headroom and the center
>> of the mix is not collapsing or sounding harsh and muddy.
>>
>>
>>
>>i'm not deej but a i can say this with complete authority. i have no
idea.
On 8 Nov 2006 03:13:44 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Sir Deej...
>
>1.) You said you got the "Home" card, yes? Does that card come
>with A/D & D/A convertors or did you have to buy them separately?
>
>2.) If it doesn't come with convertors, what do the i/o's
>consist of? Just a bunch of lightpipe sockets? SPDIF?
>
>3.) Can you sum though it, run a couple of 'verbs, and a dozen
>or so instances of let's say compressors & the like at the same
>time?
>
>Neil
>Technology sucks!
I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped right
at 1:30. There has to be a better way.I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your mouth. :)
-Carl
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>
>
> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
> >
> >I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
> >
> >Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say "Not
> >yet but I will when I get to the polls".
> >
> >hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to learn
all
> >you need about who you are voting for.
> >
> >ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
> >
> >Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>Used for short period three: Platinium, Compouder, Voice Master, Tone Master.Dont't
like them at all and sold them quickly.In my opinion, get off Voice Master.Sounds
thin and dry, not good quality made, only famous name.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>FWIW, the ISA series is also made in china, but sounds really good for
>the money. Personally, I would stay away from all things Platinum in
>the Focusrite line.
>
>David.
>
>fernando wrote:
>> yes, it is not real good. Focusrite have made the Platinum series in China,
>> nothing sounds like it once was. This is like a Behringer with a big name
>> and price tag.
>>
>> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>A guy in my band has one of the old single rack ones,
>>>Not that great, thin,
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A lot of people seam to be disappointed with them. You might want to
do
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>search and see what people have to say about them on gearslutz.com.
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>didn't care for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>w
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Robert Arsenault" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:454ff110@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.rmcaudio.com/focusrite/voicemasterpro.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is anyone here using this unit?
>>>>>>I think this would fit the bill for a handy, tweekable, pro quality
>>
>> pre
>>
>>>>>>for under $800.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any opinions, recommendations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>fat chance
Carl Amburn wrote:
> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your mouth. :)
>
> -Carl
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>
>>
>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>>
>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>>
>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say "Not
>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>>
>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to learn
> all
>>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>>
>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>>
>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>
>I also think the people behind the machines are suspect. Can you say fix?
It's not just here in Michigan.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061107/D8L8DO6O0.html
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Technology sucks!
>
>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote won't
respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad or good
things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't bitch.
C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what I'm able
to do today.
Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times that lack
leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning or
going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT, if you're
just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no matter
what.
The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!! C'mon
man! :)
peace,
-Carl
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
> fat chance
>
> Carl Amburn wrote:
> > I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your mouth.
:)
> >
> > -Carl
> >
> > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
> >> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
> >> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
> >>>
> >>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
> >>>
> >>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say
"Not
> >>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
> >>>
> >>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to
learn
> > all
> >>> you need about who you are voting for.
> >>>
> >>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
> >>>
> >>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
> >
> >Aaron
I built a new machine recently. Intel D975XBX board. I was going to use it
for video editing .If the quad cores are priced within reach i will drop one
in and use it for audio as well. It has a D940 in it at the moment.
With the limited testing done so far I can say it smokes my dual opteron
system.It has all the SSE instruction sets. Some programs wont run without
them.Its a no brainer IMHO.
1066FSB,use either ECC or non ECC DDR2,4- sata 2(3G/sec),4 sata 1(1,5g/sec)
1-eide, 2 floppy 8-usb 2. the only negative on this board is there are only
2 pci slots.You can run it in raid but why bother with 3 gigs a sec?
Hopefully magma will get the PCI express controller working right .
I think it is a great board , for this month anyway.
I dont have a clue about paris running on it .didnt try it , dont need it.
> Paris compatible, of course :)
> Anyone having great success with a Dual Core Intel chipset rig?
>
> AA
>James-
I hope someone there had the presence of mind to video tape the episode,
or at least get lots of still pictures, for verificaton.
-steve
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I also think the people behind the machines are suspect. Can you say fix?
>
>It's not just here in Michigan.
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061107/D8L8DO6O0.html
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Technology sucks!
>>
>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>right
>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP 2024p?Apart
this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on Ebay.Ok, John. Here's the problem.
I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two idiots,
and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a civic
failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you a menu
of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks happily
eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved is you.
Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow some
of your own! Cook it yourself!
Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is as lame
as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour and then
get shot and injured, you can't complain."
You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have to vote
for idiots!
But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging from
your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining idiots
or not.
If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and come up
with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't find
someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't complain.
You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you can't
complain...!
You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
-steve
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote won't
>respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad or good
>things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't bitch.
>C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what I'm able
>to do today.
>
>Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times that lack
>leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning or
>going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT, if you're
>just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no matter
>what.
>
>The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!! C'mon
>man! :)
>
>peace,
>-Carl
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>> fat chance
>>
>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>> > I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your mouth.
>:)
>> >
>> > -Carl
>> >
>> > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>> >> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>> >> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>> >>>
>> >>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say
>"Not
>> >>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>> >>>
>> >>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to
>learn
>> > all
>> >>> you need about who you are voting for.
>> >>>
>> >>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>> >
>> >
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>James-
>
>I hope someone there had the presence of mind to video tape the episode,
>or at least get lots of still pictures, for verificaton.
>
>-steve
I called my local party and told them to get someone over there to over see
how they were handling the situation. With years of good reason, I don't
trust the system or the people behind the systems.
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I also think the people behind the machines are suspect. Can you say fix?
>>
>>It's not just here in Michigan.
>>
>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061107/D8L8DO6O0.html
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Technology sucks!
>>>
>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
>side
>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>on
>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>>right
>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>
>For those interested (I'm sure Chris doesn't need to be, but anyway) tomshardware.com
has a recent review of four 975 chipset boards. They're only lukewarm on
them in general, finding marginal performance gains for a lot more money,
but they're there. Surprisingly they chose the MSI offering as their #1,
when DFI and ASUS have been kind of owning the tomshardware world for a while.
Maybe MSI is getting their act together a bit. I'll say this, I ran an MSI
440BX machine from being my bending end, overclocked audio box, down to hosting
my PARIS rig on a combined native/DSP system, then on to general office duty,
and finally as my DSL firewall/router. It never died but when I finally killed
it the power supply fan wasn't working and there was about 1/4 inch of dust
all over the thing but it still ran.
TCB
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Aaron,
>Current Core2 and Quad Core ready chip sets would be the 965 and 975
>versions only.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Aaron Allen wrote:
>
>>Paris compatible, of course :)
>>Anyone having great success with a Dual Core Intel chipset rig?
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762The last sentence is the scariest............
IDIOT SIGHTING
I live in a semi-rural area. We recently had a new neighbor call the local
township administrative office to request the removal of the Deer Crossing
sign on our road.
The reason:
"Too many deer are being hit by cars out here!
I don't think this is a good place for them to be crossing anymore."
From Kingman, KS.
______________________________________________________
IDIOTS IN FOOD SERVICE:
My daughter went to a local Taco Bell and ordered a taco. She asked the
person behind the counter for "minimal lettuce." He said he was sorry,
but they only had iceberg.
He was a Chef?
Yep...From Kansas City!
______________________________________________
IDIOT SIGHTING:
I was at the airport, checking in at the gate when an airport employee asked,
"Has anyone put anything in your baggage without your knowledge?
To which I replied, "If it was without my knowledge, how would I know?"
He smiled knowingly and nodded, "That's why we ask."
Happened in Birmingham, Ala.
_______________________________________________________
IDIOT SIGHTING:
The stoplight on the corner buzzes when its safe to cross the street.
I was crossing with an intellectually challenged coworker of mine.
She asked if I knew what the buzzer was for.
I explained that it signals blind people when the light is red.
Appalled, she responded, "What on earth are blind people doing driving?!"
She was a probation officer in Wichita, KS
___________________________________________________
IDIOT SIGHTING:
At a good-bye luncheon for an old and dear coworker.
She was leaving the company due to "downsizing."
Our manager commented cheerfully, "This is fun. We should do this more often."
Not another word was spoken.
We all just looked at each other with that deer-in-the-headlights stare.
This was a bunch at Texas Instruments.
________________________________________
IDIOT SIGHTING:
I work with an individual who plugged her power strip back into itself and
for the sake of her own life, couldn't understand why her system would
not turn on.
A deputy with the Dallas County Sheriffs office no less.
____________________________________________________
IDIOT SIGHTING:
When my husband and I arrived at an automobile dealership to pick up our
car, we were told the keys had been locked in it. We went to the service
department and found a mechanic working feverishly to unlock the drivers
side door. As I watched from the passenger side, I instinctively tried
the door handle and discovered that it was unlocked. "Hey," I announced
to the technician, "its open!"
His reply, "I know - I already got that side."
This was at the Ford dealership in Canton, Mississippi!
_______________________________________________________
STAY ALERT!
They walk among us ... and they REPRODUCErick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>sorry but the horse and dairy farms up wind of me prevent that from
>happening gene...
>
>james...i think you just pissed off santa...
>
>
Oh well, I haven't seen that guy since I was 16 anyways.
>
>On 8 Nov 2006 04:40:28 +1000, "gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSP.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The Creation Of Michigan
>>>
>>>Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God was missing for six
>>>days.
>>>Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh
>>>day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"
>>>
>>>God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards
>>>through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made."
>>>
>>>Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?"
>>>
>>>"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it. I'm going to
>>>call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance."
>>>
>>>"Balance?", inquired Michael, still confused.
>>>
>>>God explained, pointing to different parts of earth,
>>>
>>>"For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and
>>>wealth while southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over
>>>there will be a hot spot. Over here I've placed a continent of white
>>>people and over there is a continent of black people," God continued,
>>>pointing to different countries.
>>>
>>> "This one will be extremely hot and arid while this one will be very
>>>cold and covered in ice.
>>>
>>>The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a large land
>>>mass and said, "What's that one?"
>>>
>>>"Ah," said God. "That's Michigan , the most glorious place on earth.
>>>You'll notice that it is made in the fashion of my hand, the Hand of
>>>God. There are beautiful lakes, rivers, sunsets and rolling hills. The
>>>people from Michigan are going to be modest, intelligent and
>>>humorous and they are going to be found traveling the world. They will
>>>be extremely sociable, hard working and high achieving, and they will
>>>be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace."
>>>
>>>Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed,"What
>>>about balance, God?" "You said there would be balance!"
>>>
>>>God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots I'm putting around
>>>them in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Canada"
>>>
>>>Only someone who has grown up in Michigan would
>>>forward this e-mail!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>For balance, God gave Michigan the smell of grain elevators.
>>Gene :-)
>Though I've really had it with nearly all politicians, I
went ahead & voted anyway... they all sucked, but I tried to
vote for the least-suckiest.
Maybe we'll all get lucky & our congress & individual local
governments will suck perhaps 1% less than they do now.
1%'s better than nothing.
Neil
"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>Ok, John. Here's the problem.
>
>I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two idiots,
>and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a civic
>failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
>
>The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you a menu
>of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks happily
>eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved is you.
>Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
>
>What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow some
>of your own! Cook it yourself!
>
>Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is as lame
>as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour and then
>get shot and injured, you can't complain."
>
>You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have to vote
>for idiots!
>
>But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging from
>your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining idiots
>or not.
>
>If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and come up
>with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't find
>someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
>
>So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
>
>Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't complain.
>You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you can't
>complain...!
>
>You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
>
>-steve
>
>
>
>
>
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote won't
>>respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad or
good
>>things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't bitch.
>>C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what I'm
able
>>to do today.
>>
>>Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times that
lack
>>leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning or
>>going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT, if you're
>>just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no matter
>>what.
>>
>>The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!! C'mon
>>man! :)
>>
>>peace,
>>-Carl
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>>> fat chance
>>>
>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>> > I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your mouth.
>>:)
>>> >
>>> > -Carl
>>> >
>>> > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>>> >> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>>> >> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say
>>"Not
>>> >>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>> >>>
>>> >>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to
>>learn
>>> > all
>>> >>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>
>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>
>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP 2024p?Apart
>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on Ebay.
If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
....unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.I'm not complaining. I'm just not finding any reason to vote. I'm a
man of reason, not a sheep. If a politician can clearly tell me why I
should vote for them I will be glad to listen to them.
I find that politicians think of this as a game and not truly affecting
peoples lives. I hate it when people vote for their own special
interests. I will never do that. Whenever I vote it will be because
the issues are the best for everyone.
I often recommend cutting government programs and people say "But you
work for government, your job could be cut" and I say "Good !".
John
steve the artguy wrote:
> Ok, John. Here's the problem.
>
> I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two idiots,
> and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a civic
> failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
>
> The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you a menu
> of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks happily
> eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved is you.
> Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
>
> What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow some
> of your own! Cook it yourself!
>
> Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is as lame
> as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour and then
> get shot and injured, you can't complain."
>
> You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have to vote
> for idiots!
>
> But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging from
> your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining idiots
> or not.
>
> If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and come up
> with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't find
> someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
>
> So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
>
> Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't complain.
> You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you can't
> complain...!
>
> You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
>
> -steve
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote won't
>> respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad or good
>> things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't bitch.
>> C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what I'm able
>> to do today.
>>
>> Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times that lack
>> leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning or
>> going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT, if you're
>> just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no matter
>> what.
>>
>> The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!! C'mon
>> man! :)
>>
>> peace,
>> -Carl
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>>> fat chance
>>>
>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>>> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your mouth.
>> :)
>>>> -Carl
>>>>
>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>>>>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>>>>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say
>> "Not
>>>>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to
>> learn
>>>> all
>>>>>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>>>>
>>
>To be honest , it's really good.. Nice sounds verbs. better sounding than
some big dollar verb units
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>
>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP 2024p?Apart
>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on Ebay.John, it's really disappointing to know that people who actually use reason,
such as yourself, (instead of fear) aren't going to vote.
-Carl
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550fbb0$1@linux...
> I'm not complaining. I'm just not finding any reason to vote. I'm a
> man of reason, not a sheep. If a politician can clearly tell me why I
> should vote for them I will be glad to listen to them.
>
> I find that politicians think of this as a game and not truly affecting
> peoples lives. I hate it when people vote for their own special
> interests. I will never do that. Whenever I vote it will be because
> the issues are the best for everyone.
>
> I often recommend cutting government programs and people say "But you
> work for government, your job could be cut" and I say "Good !".
>
> John
>
> steve the artguy wrote:
> > Ok, John. Here's the problem.
> >
> > I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two
idiots,
> > and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a civic
> > failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
> >
> > The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you a
menu
> > of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks
happily
> > eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved is
you.
> > Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
> >
> > What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow some
> > of your own! Cook it yourself!
> >
> > Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is as
lame
> > as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour and
then
> > get shot and injured, you can't complain."
> >
> > You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have to
vote
> > for idiots!
> >
> > But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging
from
> > your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining
idiots
> > or not.
> >
> > If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and come up
> > with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't
find
> > someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
> >
> > So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
> >
> > Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't complain.
> > You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you
can't
> > complain...!
> >
> > You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
> >
> > -steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >> Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote
won't
> >> respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad or
good
> >> things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't
bitch.
> >> C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what I'm
able
> >> to do today.
> >>
> >> Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times that
lack
> >> leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning
or
> >> going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT, if
you're
> >> just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no
matter
> >> what.
> >>
> >> The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!!
C'mon
> >> man! :)
> >>
> >> peace,
> >> -Carl
> >>
> >> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
> >>> fat chance
> >>>
> >>> Carl Amburn wrote:
> >>>> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your
mouth.
> >> :)
> >>>> -Carl
> >>>>
> >>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
> >>>>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
> >>>>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say
> >> "Not
> >>>>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to
> >> learn
> >>>> all
> >>>>>> you need about who you are voting for.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
> >>>>
> >>
> >Hey james, I voted in Macomb Twonship, and they were using the paper system.
It went very smooth. No glitches at all..
You situation sounds like some "hanky panky"..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Technology sucks!
>
>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>at 1:30. There has to be a better way."Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Though I've really had it with nearly all politicians, I
>went ahead & voted anyway... they all sucked, but I tried to
>vote for the least-suckiest.
>
>Maybe we'll all get lucky & our congress & individual local
>governments will suck perhaps 1% less than they do now.
>
>1%'s better than nothing.
>
>Neil
what frosts me are the many times I've voted, knowing that the odds are (and
as reality later shows) that many many things will be much more than 1% worse
afterwards.
-steveI had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can see
what a great impression it made here, heh. )
I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from that
list. YMMV.
AA
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>
> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>2024p?Apart
>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>Ebay.
>
> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>
> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>
>Had to pass that to a bunch of friends.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4550f7a8$1@linux...
>
> The last sentence is the scariest............
>
>
> IDIOT SIGHTING
> I live in a semi-rural area. We recently had a new neighbor call the local
> township administrative office to request the removal of the Deer Crossing
> sign on our road.
> The reason:
> "Too many deer are being hit by cars out here!
> I don't think this is a good place for them to be crossing anymore."
> From Kingman, KS.
> ______________________________________________________
> IDIOTS IN FOOD SERVICE:
> My daughter went to a local Taco Bell and ordered a taco. She asked the
> person behind the counter for "minimal lettuce." He said he was sorry,
> but they only had iceberg.
> He was a Chef?
> Yep...From Kansas City!
> ______________________________________________
>
> IDIOT SIGHTING:
> I was at the airport, checking in at the gate when an airport employee
> asked,
> "Has anyone put anything in your baggage without your knowledge?
> To which I replied, "If it was without my knowledge, how would I know?"
>
> He smiled knowingly and nodded, "That's why we ask."
> Happened in Birmingham, Ala.
> _______________________________________________________
> IDIOT SIGHTING:
> The stoplight on the corner buzzes when its safe to cross the street.
> I was crossing with an intellectually challenged coworker of mine.
> She asked if I knew what the buzzer was for.
> I explained that it signals blind people when the light is red.
> Appalled, she responded, "What on earth are blind people doing driving?!"
>
> She was a probation officer in Wichita, KS
> ___________________________________________________
> IDIOT SIGHTING:
> At a good-bye luncheon for an old and dear coworker.
> She was leaving the company due to "downsizing."
> Our manager commented cheerfully, "This is fun. We should do this more
> often."
>
> Not another word was spoken.
> We all just looked at each other with that deer-in-the-headlights stare.
>
> This was a bunch at Texas Instruments.
> ________________________________________
> IDIOT SIGHTING:
> I work with an individual who plugged her power strip back into itself and
> for the sake of her own life, couldn't understand why her system would
> not turn on.
> A deputy with the Dallas County Sheriffs office no less.
> ____________________________________________________
> IDIOT SIGHTING:
> When my husband and I arrived at an automobile dealership to pick up our
> car, we were told the keys had been locked in it. We went to the service
> department and found a mechanic working feverishly to unlock the drivers
> side door. As I watched from the passenger side, I instinctively tried
> the door handle and discovered that it was unlocked. "Hey," I announced
> to the technician, "its open!"
> His reply, "I know - I already got that side."
> This was at the Ford dealership in Canton, Mississippi!
> _______________________________________________________
> STAY ALERT!
> They walk among us ... and they REPRODUCE
>
>Neil,
It hasn't arrived yet so I can't say. It has 16 ADAT I/O, a s/pdif I/O and a
midi I/O. I also ordered a A16U AD/DA converter that interfaces with this by
firewire (you can use a standard FW cable, but you can't plug it into a FW
port or it will die ;o)
Right now I'm using two Pulsat II cards, one with 24 ADAT I/O and one 16
channels midi I/O and the other with a Plus plate with stereo AES, a pair of
balanced AD/DA's and a 32 channels midi I/O.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550b0b8$1@linux...
>
> Sir Deej...
>
> 1.) You said you got the "Home" card, yes? Does that card come
> with A/D & D/A convertors or did you have to buy them separately?
>
> 2.) If it doesn't come with convertors, what do the i/o's
> consist of? Just a bunch of lightpipe sockets? SPDIF?
>
> 3.) Can you sum though it, run a couple of 'verbs, and a dozen
> or so instances of let's say compressors & the like at the same
> time?
>
> Neil
>
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a machine
that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but that
would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.
James
"j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>
>
>yeah.....
except it was a machine that would only vote for Republicans and it was
2004.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45513a5c$1@linux...
>
> Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a machine
> that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but that
> would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.
>
> James
>
> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>>
>>
>>
>Then there's this --
W.C. Fields said, "I never vote for anyone. I always vote against."
Funny, but practical too -- if he supports the mediocre guy in
preference to the truly horrible guy, he moves things an increment in
the direction he prefers... and maybe, by helping to keep the truly
horrible guy from gaining power, he's helping to prevent some kind of
unforeseen disaster that really would *not* have been funny...
Somebody else said something like: "the perfect is the enemy of the
good" -- which also applies: you can miss a lot of possibly useful
choices while waiting for the perfect one to fall in your lap.
-- holding my nose and voting tonight, as usual -- Chas.
On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>
>I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>
>Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say "Not
>yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>
>hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to learn all
>you need about who you are voting for.
>
>ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>
>Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!I'm pretty sure Gracenote doesn't actaully examine the musical content of
the song, it just takes a hash of the file itself and compares it to a
database of known songs. You know how sometimes if you rip a CD and try to
get the id3 songs from cddb it will give you several options? I'm not
100% sure but I think thats whats happening. I'd recommend adding a couple
seconds of silence to the end of the track, reencode your mp3 and then
reupload....
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454fb499$1@linux...
>
>
> I've seen in the news that Myspace has aquired some anti-copyright
> technology
> of Gracenote to stop people uploading unauthorised material. Anybody know
> how it works?
>
> The reason I ask is that I just tried to upload a song I wrote last night
> and it's claiming it's a copyrighted peice, and yet I know I wrote it, and
> would be quite astounded if anybody else had written the same peice.
>
> Yes it borrows some ideas from Radiohead timing wise, but the timing is
> definably
> different from the Radiohead song from which it was inspired, and the
> chord
> progression, melody etc are totally different. I don't see especially how
> any electronicly based monitoring system would pick a minor thing like
> that
> up...?
>
> I'm thinking they're still tweaking the system...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.OK, that sounds plauseable.
I have a new mix now so I'll try adding it again.
Thanks just-cron.
Cheers,
Kim.
"j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>I'm pretty sure Gracenote doesn't actaully examine the musical content of
>the song, it just takes a hash of the file itself and compares it to a
>database of known songs. You know how sometimes if you rip a CD and try
to
>get the id3 songs from cddb it will give you several options? I'm not
>100% sure but I think thats whats happening. I'd recommend adding a couple
>seconds of silence to the end of the track, reencode your mp3 and then
>reupload....
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:454fb499$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I've seen in the news that Myspace has aquired some anti-copyright
>> technology
>> of Gracenote to stop people uploading unauthorised material. Anybody know
>> how it works?
>>
>> The reason I ask is that I just tried to upload a song I wrote last night
>> and it's claiming it's a copyrighted peice, and yet I know I wrote it,
and
>> would be quite astounded if anybody else had written the same peice.
>>
>> Yes it borrows some ideas from Radiohead timing wise, but the timing is
>> definably
>> different from the Radiohead song from which it was inspired, and the
>> chord
>> progression, melody etc are totally different. I don't see especially
how
>> any electronicly based monitoring system would pick a minor thing like
>> that
>> up...?
>>
>> I'm thinking they're still tweaking the system...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>Either way it's not right!
"j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>yeah.....
>
>except it was a machine that would only vote for Republicans and it was
>2004.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45513a5c$1@linux...
>>
>> Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a machine
>> that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but that
>> would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>agreed...
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45514785$1@linux...
>
> Either way it's not right!
>
> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>yeah.....
>>
>>except it was a machine that would only vote for Republicans and it was
>
>>2004.
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45513a5c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a
>>> machine
>>> that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but
>>> that
>>> would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Anyone know what kind of memory this thing takes? I have one in from some
friends I'm trying to trick out for them.
AA"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Anyone know what kind of memory this thing takes? I have one in from some
>friends I'm trying to trick out for them.
>
>AA
>
>
>
Believe it or not, I just threw out all my lit on them. My guess would be
SIMMs, probably non parity and SCSI drivesKind of cool!
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061107/D8L8G1KG0.htmlSo I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to begin
mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last take's
3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
(which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a track
w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior (I'm
a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
.paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted files,
but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
files if you hit a certain key sequence?
Thanks...
GanttThat HAS happened to me a few times also . after saving a project ,and
opening it a few days later . some files just vanished, i know i didnt
delete them . search for files came up empty.they were all on the same drive
too.
I guess paris didnt like those tracks:-)
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:455154b5$1@linux...
>
> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to
> begin
> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered
> sections
> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last
> take's
> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a
> track
> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior
> (I'm
> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
> paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted
> files,
> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Gantt
>
>Easy Recovery Pro from Ontrack. Gets'm back everytime. Unfortunately,
you're MAC.
If you find something that works as well, I highly recommend getting that
drive removed as OS drive and set it up as something other than and making
sure that there is zero raiding going on with it. If installed as the OS
drive, you're writing to it everytime you boot and everytime you make a move
to recover.
W. Mark Wilson
www.ontrack.com/easyrecoveryprofessional
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:455154b5$1@linux...
>
> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to
> begin
> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered
> sections
> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last
> take's
> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a
> track
> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior
> (I'm
> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
> paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted
> files,
> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Gantt
>
>James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
http://reportvotingproblems.org/
And report it to your state's election officials.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Technology sucks!
>
> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped right
> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
working...this...sigh
luckily they can still be hand counted.
On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>Technology sucks!
>
>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped right
>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.not on a pc but it has happened a couple of times on the mac and i
have no idea why. sorry to hear it. you did search your boot drive
too as macs will put them in the library user or global folder. i've
also found that mac finds don't always work the first few searches
especially if the search phrase isn't exactly (case sensitive) the
same.
On 8 Nov 2006 14:53:25 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
>a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
>went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
>old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to begin
>mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
>I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
>where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
>Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last take's
>3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
>that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
>(which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a track
>w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
>I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
>of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
>but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior (I'm
>a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
>paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted files,
>but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
>Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
>a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
>files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
>Thanks...
>
>Gantt
>Had a project lose edits and audio files before, but never not had the
files still there. Happpened on a couple of them. THought I'd lost it
all, but went back and found the audio takes by searching on the time/
date stamp.
Don't know of any "keystroke" that could cause it.
JH
Gantt Kushner wrote:
> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to begin
> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last take's
> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a track
> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior (I'm
> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
> .paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted files,
> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Gantt
>
>Yeah but don't be disappointed in me, be disappointed in the politicians
that expect me to vote for them because they have a pretty color and
not because they stand for anything.
John
Carl Amburn wrote:
> John, it's really disappointing to know that people who actually use reason,
> such as yourself, (instead of fear) aren't going to vote.
>
> -Carl
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550fbb0$1@linux...
>> I'm not complaining. I'm just not finding any reason to vote. I'm a
>> man of reason, not a sheep. If a politician can clearly tell me why I
>> should vote for them I will be glad to listen to them.
>>
>> I find that politicians think of this as a game and not truly affecting
>> peoples lives. I hate it when people vote for their own special
>> interests. I will never do that. Whenever I vote it will be because
>> the issues are the best for everyone.
>>
>> I often recommend cutting government programs and people say "But you
>> work for government, your job could be cut" and I say "Good !".
>>
>> John
>>
>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>> Ok, John. Here's the problem.
>>>
>>> I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two
> idiots,
>>> and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a civic
>>> failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
>>>
>>> The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you a
> menu
>>> of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks
> happily
>>> eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved is
> you.
>>> Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
>>>
>>> What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow some
>>> of your own! Cook it yourself!
>>>
>>> Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is as
> lame
>>> as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour and
> then
>>> get shot and injured, you can't complain."
>>>
>>> You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have to
> vote
>>> for idiots!
>>>
>>> But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging
> from
>>> your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining
> idiots
>>> or not.
>>>
>>> If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and come up
>>> with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't
> find
>>> someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
>>>
>>> So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
>>>
>>> Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't complain.
>>> You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you
> can't
>>> complain...!
>>>
>>> You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
>>>
>>> -steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote
> won't
>>>> respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad or
> good
>>>> things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't
> bitch.
>>>> C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what I'm
> able
>>>> to do today.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times that
> lack
>>>> leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning
> or
>>>> going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT, if
> you're
>>>> just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no
> matter
>>>> what.
>>>>
>>>> The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!!
> C'mon
>>>> man! :)
>>>>
>>>> peace,
>>>> -Carl
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>>>>> fat chance
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>>>>> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your
> mouth.
>>>> :)
>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>>>>>>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they say
>>>> "Not
>>>>>>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to
>>>> learn
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>
>Don't they steal designs really well?
LaMont wrote:
> To be honest , it's really good.. Nice sounds verbs. better sounding than
> some big dollar verb units
>
> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP 2024p?Apart
>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on Ebay.
>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had any
trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
ultracoustic guitar amp.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:45512e45@linux...
>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can see
>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from that
> list. YMMV.
>
> AA
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>
>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>2024p?Apart
>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>>Ebay.
>>
>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>
>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>
>>
>
>I do recall something like this happening once (IIRC, I had
done some punches & next time I opened up that project the
punched-in segments were missing), but in my case
it was a drive going bad... had some bad sectors on it. Only
time I ever had a W-D drive go bad on me.
Gantt, did you already scan the drive for any bad sectors?
If there are any bad ones, there's a way to isolate that section
so that it doesn't try to write anything further to those
regions, so that you can finish the project without having
to move everything to a new drive right away. I forget how to
do it, but surely someone here knows this method.
Neil
Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Had a project lose edits and audio files before, but never not had the
>files still there. Happpened on a couple of them. THought I'd lost it
>all, but went back and found the audio takes by searching on the time/
>date stamp.
>
>Don't know of any "keystroke" that could cause it.
>
>JH
>
>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics,
for
>> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so
we
>> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing
w/
>> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to
begin
>> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
>> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
>> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
>> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last
take's
>> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces.
All
>> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
>> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning
a track
>> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>>
>> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical
kind
>> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
>> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior
(I'm
>> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching
for
>> .paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted
files,
>> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>>
>> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this
be
>> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
>> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
any
>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>ultracoustic guitar amp.
And therein lies the problem with their gear - inconsistency.
Some people get pieces that work fine, while enough other people
get pieces that die way too soon, catch fire, etc. I wouldn't
chance it on this stuff myself... not worth the risk unless you
don't mind taking high-percentage risk on throwing away however
much money you spent on the items.
Neil
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:45512e45@linux...
>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
see
>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
that
>> list. YMMV.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>>>Ebay.
>>>
>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>
>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
week), the problem therein is...
b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
not "dark".
c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
anything like this.
NeilHI Neil,
The Multifaces do not have an internal memory like the Fireface series.
If for what reason they ever lost power then they would lose whatever
setting you did. You would have to have the PCI card installed in order
to redo those settings.
Chris
Neil wrote:
>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
>a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>week), the problem therein is...
>
>b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>not "dark".
>
>c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>anything like this.
>
>Neil
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Hey,
I used the MSI BXMaster for years actually still have it and and it
works. Over clocked from 600 to 800mhz.
Currently using an ASUS board with 2.66mhz Quad-Core. :)
We get engineering samples from Intel and AMD.
Its nice being able to run projects at a 48k buffer that I couldn't run
at 256 before.
Chris
TCB wrote:
>For those interested (I'm sure Chris doesn't need to be, but anyway) tomshardware.com
>has a recent review of four 975 chipset boards. They're only lukewarm on
>them in general, finding marginal performance gains for a lot more money,
>but they're there. Surprisingly they chose the MSI offering as their #1,
>when DFI and ASUS have been kind of owning the tomshardware world for a while.
>Maybe MSI is getting their act together a bit. I'll say this, I ran an MSI
>440BX machine from being my bending end, overclocked audio box, down to hosting
>my PARIS rig on a combined native/DSP system, then on to general office duty,
>and finally as my DSL firewall/router. It never died but when I finally killed
>it the power supply fan wasn't working and there was about 1/4 inch of dust
>all over the thing but it still ran.
>
>TCB
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Aaron,
>>Current Core2 and Quad Core ready chip sets would be the 965 and 975
>>versions only.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Paris compatible, of course :)
>>>Anyone having great success with a Dual Core Intel chipset rig?
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Neil,
You could get two 8-channel AD/DA units. The real problem I see in this
marketplace is the divide between really high quality AD/DA and interface
format. Lynx, Mytek, Apogee, etc. come stock with AES interfaces (which
are nice and pro and have some sort of locking-style connectors). However,
the only cards that support this on Windows XP are the Lynx and RME PCI cards.
No one makes a damned PCIe for this except Apogee, and for some moronic
reason they're OSX only. And none of the Firewire interfaces do multi-channel
AES either...
Good luck with your search!
Graham
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>anything like this.
>
>NeilNot ewxactly what you're asking, but...
http://www.emu.com/support/compatibility/Darwin/Darwin_drive .asp
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Anyone know what kind of memory this thing takes? I have one in from some
>friends I'm trying to trick out for them.
>
>AA
>
>
>Well. it sure is a little out of date. Here's a good line regarding drive
specs:
"5. It should be 4GB or less, any additional capacity will not be usable."
T
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rtogers.com> wrote:
>
>Not ewxactly what you're asking, but...
> http://www.emu.com/support/compatibility/Darwin/Darwin_drive .asp
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Anyone know what kind of memory this thing takes? I have one in from some
>
>>friends I'm trying to trick out for them.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>
>Hi Neil,
For what it's worth, Paris converters were are described as being "dark"
sounding. That's not a bad thing when you're using native apps like Sx/Nuendo
& Pro Tools which have a very clean sound. Adding converters with some character
is not a bad thing. Some people don't like pristine clean Myteks..I prefer
Apogees AD/DAX 16 converters with soft limit..
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
>a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>week), the problem therein is...
>
>b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>not "dark".
>
>c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>anything like this.
>
>NeilI just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
get you 16.
John
Neil wrote:
> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
> week), the problem therein is...
>
> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
> not "dark".
>
> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
> anything like this.
>
> Neilunfortunately , they all break. maybe not as frequently as ballringer shit.
I had a $4500 fuckusrite 215 crap out days out of warranty .I was NOT
happy. they were nice enough to fix it for $250. luckily my good friend
morgan sent it out for me. it probably would have been more money if i sent
it out myself.If it happens again im going to plink holes in it with my
AR-15 and watch it burn in my fireplace.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4551e432$1@linux...
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
> any
>>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>>ultracoustic guitar amp.
>
> And therein lies the problem with their gear - inconsistency.
> Some people get pieces that work fine, while enough other people
> get pieces that die way too soon, catch fire, etc. I wouldn't
> chance it on this stuff myself... not worth the risk unless you
> don't mind taking high-percentage risk on throwing away however
> much money you spent on the items.
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:45512e45@linux...
>>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>
>>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>
>>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
> see
>>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
> that
>>> list. YMMV.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>
>>>>>Ebay.
>>>>
>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>
>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Chris... not sure what you're referring to here.
If I were to use the Multiface as a stand-alone convertor, then
any settings (like samplerate/bitstream rate, monitoring levels,
etc) would be done in the Pulsar card/software anyway.
Am I missing something else?
Neil
>HI Neil,
>The Multifaces do not have an internal memory like the Fireface series.
>If for what reason they ever lost power then they would lose whatever
>setting you did. You would have to have the PCI card installed in order
>to redo those settings.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Neil wrote:
>
>>OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>
>>a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>week), the problem therein is...
>>
>>b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>not "dark".
>>
>>c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>
>>d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>anything like this.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
one unit.
Neil
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
>get you 16.
>John
>
>Neil wrote:
>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>
>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>> week), the problem therein is...
>>
>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>> not "dark".
>>
>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>
>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>> anything like this.
>>
>> Neil"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>I prefer Apogees AD/DAX 16 converters with soft limit..
I think if I were to get up into that price range, I'd just go
for some Lavry Blue series.
NeilHey Neil,
I'll have the A16U in here hopefully early next week. If you read the
remainder of the thread on Planet Z, you'll see quite a few posts attesting
to the fact that the older A16 units had some problems but the newer one is
better....yadda, yadda. I'll let you know my thoughts once I get it wired in
and record something through it.
As LaMont said, the Paris converters are considered sorta dark too. I like
their sound personally.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4551e852$1@linux...
>
> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>
> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
> week), the problem therein is...
>
> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
> not "dark".
>
> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>
> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
> anything like this.
>
> NeilHas nothing to do with Macs.
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>working...this...sigh
>
>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>
>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Technology sucks!
>>
>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode. Just
route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>
> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
> one unit.
>
> Neil
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
>
>>get you 16.
>>John
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>
>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>
>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>> not "dark".
>>>
>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>
>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>> anything like this.
>>>
>>> Neil
>That is indeed very strange....
"DC" <dc@spammersinpolitics.com> wrote in message news:454ed31e$1@linux...
>
> Ok, we have Prop 90 on the ballot here in California.
>
> It is an anti eminent domain initiative.
>
> Here's what's reallt weird.
>
> Check out the "yes on 90" site.
>
> http://www.yesprop90.com/
>
> Now check out the "no on 90" site
>
> http://www.noprop90.com/
>
>
> Same models. Same pictures, same graphics, same layout.
>
> Very strange. Steve, have you seen this? Anybody else have an idea?
>
> Strange...
>
> DC
>The newer Apogees are *supposed* to be the **** Neil. I've heard great
things and the softlimit is supposed to be very transparent.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4552040c$1@linux...
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>I prefer Apogees AD/DAX 16 converters with soft limit..
>
> I think if I were to get up into that price range, I'd just go
> for some Lavry Blue series.
>
> Neil
>Thanks Jamie! I'm not sure it matters much now.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>
>One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>
>http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>
>And report it to your state's election officials.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Technology sucks!
>>
>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.It would be interesting to find out what chips are in the A16. I presume the
dark sound reference is from the converter filters .anybody have a new IC
master set?
16 channels for under $800 sounds great to me.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4552040c$1@linux...
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>I prefer Apogees AD/DAX 16 converters with soft limit..
>
> I think if I were to get up into that price range, I'd just go
> for some Lavry Blue series.
>
> Neil
>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
channels at once on one Pulsar card?
ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
for example.
Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
Neil
"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode. Just
>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>
>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>
>;o)
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>
>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>> one unit.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
2
>>
>>>get you 16.
>>>John
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>
>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>
>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>> not "dark".
>>>>
>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>
>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>> anything like this.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>
>
>I filed a report.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>
>One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>
>http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>
>And report it to your state's election officials.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Technology sucks!
>>
>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.The Mac Books go Core 2 Duo 64bit, so you should be able to run Microsoft
Windows XP and Windows Vista.
http://www.apple.com/macbook/macbook.html>I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
channels at once on one Pulsar card?<
I think the answer to this is a resounding *yes*, if you use theZLink
interface.
I'll give the Multiface a try as a standalone box in the next day or two.
I'll need to scrounge up a PSU for it.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520908@linux...
>
> Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
> notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
> (instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
> SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
> SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>
> You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
> powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
> to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
> second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
> if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>
> Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
> 88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
> Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
> it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
> samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
> their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
> channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>
> ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>
> Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
> could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
> one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
> transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
> for example.
>
> Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>>Just
>
>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>
>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>> one unit.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
> 2
>>>
>>>>get you 16.
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>
>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>
>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>
>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>
>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>
>>
>>
>Hey you guys...
I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with Paris.
Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels at
88.1 !!
Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
Regarding now ad quality !
Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get Mytel
studioclock !
Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection reclocking
whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point and
thereafter.
RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly exceptional
ad converter.
Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
I have never heard a converter like this now !
So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good ad/da
8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
Clock the from a clock like mytek.
Regards,
DImitrios
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>
>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>
>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>
>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>
>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>for example.
>
>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
Just
>
>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>
>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>> one unit.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>2
>>>
>>>>get you 16.
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>
>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>
>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>
>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>
>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>
>>
>>
>My God,
the worst english I have ever written !!
Sorry !
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hey you guys...
>I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with
Paris.
>Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels
at
>88.1 !!
>Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
>Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
>Regarding now ad quality !
>Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get Mytel
>studioclock !
>Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
>I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection
reclocking
>whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point
and
>thereafter.
>RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
>I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly
exceptional
>ad converter.
>Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
>I have never heard a converter like this now !
>So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good
ad/da
>8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
>Clock the from a clock like mytek.
>Regards,
>DImitrios
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>>
>>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>>
>>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>>
>>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>>
>>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>>for example.
>>
>>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>Just
>>
>>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>>
>>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>>> one unit.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>>2
>>>>
>>>>>get you 16.
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>It matters a lot. Collecting reports of voting failures creates a record
that helps support and direct much needed improvements.
Without that record, the inertia of even a failing system is difficult
to overcome, and things may continue to get worse.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> Thanks Jamie! I'm not sure it matters much now.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>>
>> One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>>
>> http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>>
>> And report it to your state's election officials.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Technology sucks!
>>>
>>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
> side
>>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
> what
>>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
> on
>>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
> was
>>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
> right
>>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>Great! Sorry you had to experience problems but at least your experience
may help head off future problems.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
James McCloskey wrote:
> I filed a report.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>>
>> One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>>
>> http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>>
>> And report it to your state's election officials.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Technology sucks!
>>>
>>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
> side
>>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
> what
>>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
> on
>>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
> was
>>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
> right
>>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>That's OK.....you don't even want to see me try to speak Greek.
;o)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@OTENET.GR> wrote in message news:45521035$1@linux...
>
> My God,
> the worst english I have ever written !!
> Sorry !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hey you guys...
>>I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with
> Paris.
>>Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels
> at
>>88.1 !!
>>Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
>>Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
>>Regarding now ad quality !
>>Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get
>>Mytel
>>studioclock !
>>Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
>>I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection
> reclocking
>>whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point
> and
>>thereafter.
>>RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
>>I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly
> exceptional
>>ad converter.
>>Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
>>I have never heard a converter like this now !
>>So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good
> ad/da
>>8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
>>Clock the from a clock like mytek.
>>Regards,
>>DImitrios
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>>>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>>>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>>>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>>>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>>>
>>>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>>>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>>>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>>>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>>>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>>>
>>>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>>>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>>>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>>>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>>>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>>>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>>>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>>>
>>>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>>>
>>>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>>>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>>>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>>>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>>>for example.
>>>
>>>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>>Just
>>>
>>>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>>>
>>>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>>>> one unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>>>2
>>>>>
>>>>>>get you 16.
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I'm disappointed in both attitudes. It's disappointingly easy to justify
dumbing down messages for the electorate because political consultants
have found a measure of success doing exactly that. Which means the
electorate has failed to be as discerning as you are in that regard.
OTOH, politics in the USA is a participatory system. Sitting back and
grousing about the failures of others is a weak form of participation.
Stronger opportunities exist, including:
-Direct correspondence and personal contact with candidates (where you
can ask for their stands and plans and discuss your perspectives). Many
candidates seek this out, they want your vote, and actively look for
input from voters and opportunities to explain their outlooks.
-Membership in a political party of any stripe where you can influence
policy platforms.
-Letters to the editor in local papers.
-Support for any candidates who do live up to your standards by
volunteering or donating.
-Running for office yourself.
-Finding an issue that matters to you and advocating your own action
plan with elected officials.
-Joining or starting organizations that advocate action on one or more
issues you care about. You could, for example, start crusading for an
actual "none of the above" option on the ballot. Which is, BTW, a great
idea.
Those and a myriad of other options exist.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
John wrote:
> Yeah but don't be disappointed in me, be disappointed in the politicians
> that expect me to vote for them because they have a pretty color and
> not because they stand for anything.
>
> John
>
> Carl Amburn wrote:
>> John, it's really disappointing to know that people who actually use
>> reason,
>> such as yourself, (instead of fear) aren't going to vote.
>>
>> -Carl
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550fbb0$1@linux...
>>> I'm not complaining. I'm just not finding any reason to vote. I'm a
>>> man of reason, not a sheep. If a politician can clearly tell me why I
>>> should vote for them I will be glad to listen to them.
>>>
>>> I find that politicians think of this as a game and not truly affecting
>>> peoples lives. I hate it when people vote for their own special
>>> interests. I will never do that. Whenever I vote it will be because
>>> the issues are the best for everyone.
>>>
>>> I often recommend cutting government programs and people say "But you
>>> work for government, your job could be cut" and I say "Good !".
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>> Ok, John. Here's the problem.
>>>>
>>>> I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two
>> idiots,
>>>> and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a
>>>> civic
>>>> failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you a
>> menu
>>>> of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks
>> happily
>>>> eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved is
>> you.
>>>> Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
>>>>
>>>> What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow
>>>> some
>>>> of your own! Cook it yourself!
>>>>
>>>> Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is as
>> lame
>>>> as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour and
>> then
>>>> get shot and injured, you can't complain."
>>>>
>>>> You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have to
>> vote
>>>> for idiots!
>>>>
>>>> But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging
>> from
>>>> your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining
>> idiots
>>>> or not.
>>>>
>>>> If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and
>>>> come up
>>>> with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't
>> find
>>>> someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
>>>>
>>>> So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
>>>>
>>>> Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't
>>>> complain.
>>>> You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you
>> can't
>>>> complain...!
>>>>
>>>> You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
>>>>
>>>> -steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote
>> won't
>>>>> respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad or
>> good
>>>>> things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't
>> bitch.
>>>>> C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what I'm
>> able
>>>>> to do today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times that
>> lack
>>>>> leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning
>> or
>>>>> going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT, if
>> you're
>>>>> just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no
>> matter
>>>>> what.
>>>>>
>>>>> The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!!
>> C'mon
>>>>> man! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> peace,
>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>>>>>> fat chance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>>>>>> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your
>> mouth.
>>>>> :)
>>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>>>>>>>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they
>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>> "Not
>>>>>>>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time to
>>>>> learn
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>>
>>what planet are you on ? :-)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@OTENET.GR> wrote in message news:45521035$1@linux...
>
> My God,
> the worst english I have ever written !!
> Sorry !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hey you guys...
>>I am glad that made some kind of towards Pulsar and what it can do with
> Paris.
>>Regarding the 88.1khz only being 8 channel ,no you can have 24 channels
> at
>>88.1 !!
>>Simply by using 3 pulsar cards !
>>Each has 16 adat ins at 44.1 and 8 at 88.1.
>>Regarding now ad quality !
>>Get an ad converters at midlevel price that accept wordclock and get
>>Mytel
>>studioclock !
>>Your converters will be automatically upgraded !
>>I am convinced that the very expensive ones have great jitter rejection
> reclocking
>>whatever that is "clockwise" that makes all the difference from a point
> and
>>thereafter.
>>RME ADI-pro8 converters were so and so in my own oppinion.
>>I like more the Paris !< but now rme clocked from Mytek is a damn truly
> exceptional
>>ad converter.
>>Oh frogot I changed also the stock shitty 4580 opa to a LN6172.
>>I have never heard a converter like this now !
>>So get yourself a good mid level ad like Adi-PRO even Marian has a good
> ad/da
>>8 channel converter at 320 Euros !!
>>Clock the from a clock like mytek.
>>Regards,
>>DImitrios
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Deej, yes, this is what I hear... look on the back & you'll
>>>notice a little a/c adapter jack - if you power it up from there
>>>(instead of it getting its power from the PCI card), you're
>>>SUPPOSED to be able to use it as a stand-alone box & either
>>>SPDIF or lightpipe out of it.
>>>
>>>You know, I just realized I could probably try this by simply
>>>powering one of mine up that way, hooking up a mic & a mic pre
>>>to it & running out of lightpipe to the other one, keeping the
>>>second one interfaced to the PC through its PCI card. I suppose
>>>if it works like that, it'd work on any lightpipe-able interface.
>>>
>>>Only problem there is, if I get a Pulsar card & I'm tracking at
>>>88.2k, I can really still only get 8 tracks at once into the
>>>Pulsar card, even with two Multifaces (lightpipe protocol drops
>>>it from 8 channels per "pipe" to 4 if you're above 48k
>>>samplerate). Hmmm... in fact, considering that, even if I got
>>>their A16Ultra, I wonder if I'd actually be able to do 16
>>>channels at once on one Pulsar card?
>>>
>>>ARGH! There is no simple solution, it seems.
>>>
>>>Well, I'll try the stand-alone thing nonetheless... maybe what I
>>>could do is indeed get one of those A16Ultra's & keep at least
>>>one Multiface for overdubs if I don't think the Ultra is
>>>transparent enough for something like a nice clean vocal track,
>>>for example.
>>>
>>>Will try that stand-alone thing I mentioned & keep you posted.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>>>>I didn't even know you could use the Multiface box in standalone mode.
>>Just
>>>
>>>>route ADAT in and out and it will pass signal directly?
>>>>
>>>>Tres cool. I may keep mine around.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
>>>>> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
>>>>> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
>>>>> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
>>>>> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
>>>>> one unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but
>>>2
>>>>>
>>>>>>get you 16.
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>>>>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>>>>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>>>>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>>>>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>>>>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>>>>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>>>>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>>>>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>>>>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>>>>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>>>>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>>>>>> not "dark".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>>>>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>>>>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>>>>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>>>>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>>>>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>>>>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>>>>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>>>>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>>>>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>>>>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>>>>>> anything like this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like Ultrafex,
Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story is
sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs. to
other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
zmora
"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
any
>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>ultracoustic guitar amp.
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:45512e45@linux...
>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
see
>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
that
>> list. YMMV.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>>>Ebay.
>>>
>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>
>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Neil,
You can use the Multiface in standalone mode. How to do this:
Go into the RME control panel and open the settings dialog. Change the
setting to "Disconnect". It will now function in standalone mode.
The power supply for the Multiface 1 unit is called the:
HDSPNTCB
In disconnect mode you will be able to use the ADAT ports to connect the
Pulsar card and use the Multiface's A/D and D/A converters and you will also
be able to connect external stereo A/D and D/A converters to the Multiface
s/pdif I/O.
Very cool indeed.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45520363$1@linux...
>
> Well, I have 2 of the Multifaces, so I've already got 16 (or
> more, depending on if you're using any of the digital i/o's, as
> well)... I was just thinking that if I DO have to buy another
> convertor box - for example if the Multiface's don't work or
> don't work well in stand-alone mode - it'd be nice to have 16 in
> one unit.
>
> Neil
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>I just got 2 of the presonus digimax fs last night they are 8 each but 2
>
>>get you 16.
>>John
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> OK, I'm thinking about taking the plunge into this Creamware
>>> stuff - it sounds really interesting to me, HOWEVER...
>>>
>>> a.) The cards themselves don't come with enough AD/DA i/o's
>>> to do a full session, you have to use another solution, such as
>>> their A16Ultra 16-channel convertor box. While this, plus one
>>> of their cards, remarkably gives you that which I was saying
>>> someone really needed to come up with (in another thread last
>>> week), the problem therein is...
>>>
>>> b.) ...I've seen nothing good written about this A16Ultra
>>> convertor box - the best that anyone seems to be able to say
>>> about it is something along the lines of: "Some describe
>>> the sound as kind of dark, and it's a little noisier than the
>>> RME's". Well, this doesn't cut it, IMO; I really like the
>>> RME's, they're clean to the point of pristine & certainly
>>> not "dark".
>>>
>>> c.) Now, the cards DO each have 2 lightpipe in's... so I could
>>> use the RME's in stand-alone mode, I THINK - has anyone tried
>>> using the Multifaces in stand-alone mode? Since the Multifaces
>>> ARE my interfaces, I don't have any other way of getting the
>>> signal into the computer in order to try them in stand-alone
>>> mode (I guess I could grab a cheapie card that had a lightpipe
>>> input in order to demo this, but if anyone knows if this would
>>> work already, it would be better than buying a card, loading
>>> new drivers for it, yada, yada, yada).
>>>
>>> d.) Does anyone know of a high-quality AD/DA box that has 16
>>> inputs & 2 or more lightpipe outs? I've looked around quite a
>>> bit over the last couple of days & haven't been able to locate
>>> anything like this.
>>>
>>> Neil
>I had a copy of the manual, but no where can I find any mention of the RAM
specs. I guess they didn't want anyone to know. :>(
Tony
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:455148de@linux...
> Anyone know what kind of memory this thing takes? I have one in from some
> friends I'm trying to trick out for them.
>
> AA
>
>
>suckaAnd their manuals are junk too.
zmora wrote:
> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like Ultrafex,
> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story is
> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs. to
> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>
> zmora
>
>
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
> any
>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>
>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>
>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
> see
>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
> that
>>> list. YMMV.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>
>>>>> Ebay.
>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>
>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I'm disappointed in your disappointment.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>I'm disappointed in both attitudes. It's disappointingly easy to justify
>dumbing down messages for the electorate because political consultants
>have found a measure of success doing exactly that. Which means the
>electorate has failed to be as discerning as you are in that regard.
>
>OTOH, politics in the USA is a participatory system. Sitting back and
>grousing about the failures of others is a weak form of participation.
>Stronger opportunities exist, including:
>
> -Direct correspondence and personal contact with candidates (where you
>can ask for their stands and plans and discuss your perspectives). Many
>candidates seek this out, they want your vote, and actively look for
>input from voters and opportunities to explain their outlooks.
>
> -Membership in a political party of any stripe where you can influence
>policy platforms.
>
> -Letters to the editor in local papers.
>
> -Support for any candidates who do live up to your standards by
>volunteering or donating.
>
> -Running for office yourself.
>
> -Finding an issue that matters to you and advocating your own action
>plan with elected officials.
>
> -Joining or starting organizations that advocate action on one or more
>issues you care about. You could, for example, start crusading for an
>actual "none of the above" option on the ballot. Which is, BTW, a great
>idea.
>
>Those and a myriad of other options exist.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>John wrote:
>> Yeah but don't be disappointed in me, be disappointed in the politicians
>> that expect me to vote for them because they have a pretty color and
>> not because they stand for anything.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>> John, it's really disappointing to know that people who actually use
>>> reason,
>>> such as yourself, (instead of fear) aren't going to vote.
>>>
>>> -Carl
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550fbb0$1@linux...
>>>> I'm not complaining. I'm just not finding any reason to vote. I'm
a
>>>> man of reason, not a sheep. If a politician can clearly tell me why
I
>>>> should vote for them I will be glad to listen to them.
>>>>
>>>> I find that politicians think of this as a game and not truly affecting
>>>> peoples lives. I hate it when people vote for their own special
>>>> interests. I will never do that. Whenever I vote it will be because
>>>> the issues are the best for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> I often recommend cutting government programs and people say "But you
>>>> work for government, your job could be cut" and I say "Good !".
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>>> Ok, John. Here's the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two
>>> idiots,
>>>>> and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a
>>>>> civic
>>>>> failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you
a
>>> menu
>>>>> of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks
>>> happily
>>>>> eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved
is
>>> you.
>>>>> Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
>>>>>
>>>>> What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow
>>>>> some
>>>>> of your own! Cook it yourself!
>>>>>
>>>>> Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is
as
>>> lame
>>>>> as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour
and
>>> then
>>>>> get shot and injured, you can't complain."
>>>>>
>>>>> You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have
to
>>> vote
>>>>> for idiots!
>>>>>
>>>>> But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging
>>> from
>>>>> your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining
>>> idiots
>>>>> or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and
>>>>> come up
>>>>> with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't
>>> find
>>>>> someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't
>>>>> complain.
>>>>> You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you
>>> can't
>>>>> complain...!
>>>>>
>>>>> You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
>>>>>
>>>>> -steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote
>>> won't
>>>>>> respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad
or
>>> good
>>>>>> things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't
>>> bitch.
>>>>>> C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what
I'm
>>> able
>>>>>> to do today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times
that
>>> lack
>>>>>> leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning
>>> or
>>>>>> going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT,
if
>>> you're
>>>>>> just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no
>>> matter
>>>>>> what.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!!
>>> C'mon
>>>>>> man! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> peace,
>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>>>>>>> fat chance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your
>>> mouth.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>>>>>>>>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they
>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>> "Not
>>>>>>>>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time
to
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>>>
>>>Hey, have pity on poor John.
He's from South Carolina after all.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>I'm disappointed in both attitudes. It's disappointingly easy to justify
>dumbing down messages for the electorate because political consultants
>have found a measure of success doing exactly that. Which means the
>electorate has failed to be as discerning as you are in that regard.
>
>OTOH, politics in the USA is a participatory system. Sitting back and
>grousing about the failures of others is a weak form of participation.
>Stronger opportunities exist, including:
>
> -Direct correspondence and personal contact with candidates (where you
>can ask for their stands and plans and discuss your perspectives). Many
>candidates seek this out, they want your vote, and actively look for
>input from voters and opportunities to explain their outlooks.
>
> -Membership in a political party of any stripe where you can influence
>policy platforms.
>
> -Letters to the editor in local papers.
>
> -Support for any candidates who do live up to your standards by
>volunteering or donating.
>
> -Running for office yourself.
>
> -Finding an issue that matters to you and advocating your own action
>plan with elected officials.
>
> -Joining or starting organizations that advocate action on one or more
>issues you care about. You could, for example, start crusading for an
>actual "none of the above" option on the ballot. Which is, BTW, a great
>idea.
>
>Those and a myriad of other options exist.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>John wrote:
>> Yeah but don't be disappointed in me, be disappointed in the politicians
>> that expect me to vote for them because they have a pretty color and
>> not because they stand for anything.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>> John, it's really disappointing to know that people who actually use
>>> reason,
>>> such as yourself, (instead of fear) aren't going to vote.
>>>
>>> -Carl
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550fbb0$1@linux...
>>>> I'm not complaining. I'm just not finding any reason to vote. I'm
a
>>>> man of reason, not a sheep. If a politician can clearly tell me why
I
>>>> should vote for them I will be glad to listen to them.
>>>>
>>>> I find that politicians think of this as a game and not truly affecting
>>>> peoples lives. I hate it when people vote for their own special
>>>> interests. I will never do that. Whenever I vote it will be because
>>>> the issues are the best for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> I often recommend cutting government programs and people say "But you
>>>> work for government, your job could be cut" and I say "Good !".
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>>> Ok, John. Here's the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two
>>> idiots,
>>>>> and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a
>>>>> civic
>>>>> failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you
a
>>> menu
>>>>> of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks
>>> happily
>>>>> eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved
is
>>> you.
>>>>> Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
>>>>>
>>>>> What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow
>>>>> some
>>>>> of your own! Cook it yourself!
>>>>>
>>>>> Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is
as
>>> lame
>>>>> as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour
and
>>> then
>>>>> get shot and injured, you can't complain."
>>>>>
>>>>> You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have
to
>>> vote
>>>>> for idiots!
>>>>>
>>>>> But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging
>>> from
>>>>> your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining
>>> idiots
>>>>> or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and
>>>>> come up
>>>>> with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't
>>> find
>>>>> someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't
>>>>> complain.
>>>>> You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you
>>> can't
>>>>> complain...!
>>>>>
>>>>> You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
>>>>>
>>>>> -steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote
>>> won't
>>>>>> respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad
or
>>> good
>>>>>> things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't
>>> bitch.
>>>>>> C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what
I'm
>>> able
>>>>>> to do today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times
that
>>> lack
>>>>>> leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning
>>> or
>>>>>> going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT,
if
>>> you're
>>>>>> just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no
>>> matter
>>>>>> what.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!!
>>> C'mon
>>>>>> man! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> peace,
>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>>>>>>> fat chance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your
>>> mouth.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>>>>>>>>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they
>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>> "Not
>>>>>>>>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time
to
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>>>
>>>Actually Florida, South Carolina, Georgia and Oregon but who's counting.
Jim wrote:
> Hey, have pity on poor John.
> He's from South Carolina after all.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> I'm disappointed in both attitudes. It's disappointingly easy to justify
>
>> dumbing down messages for the electorate because political consultants
>> have found a measure of success doing exactly that. Which means the
>> electorate has failed to be as discerning as you are in that regard.
>>
>> OTOH, politics in the USA is a participatory system. Sitting back and
>> grousing about the failures of others is a weak form of participation.
>> Stronger opportunities exist, including:
>>
>> -Direct correspondence and personal contact with candidates (where you
>
>> can ask for their stands and plans and discuss your perspectives). Many
>
>> candidates seek this out, they want your vote, and actively look for
>> input from voters and opportunities to explain their outlooks.
>>
>> -Membership in a political party of any stripe where you can influence
>
>> policy platforms.
>>
>> -Letters to the editor in local papers.
>>
>> -Support for any candidates who do live up to your standards by
>> volunteering or donating.
>>
>> -Running for office yourself.
>>
>> -Finding an issue that matters to you and advocating your own action
>> plan with elected officials.
>>
>> -Joining or starting organizations that advocate action on one or more
>
>> issues you care about. You could, for example, start crusading for an
>> actual "none of the above" option on the ballot. Which is, BTW, a great
>
>> idea.
>>
>> Those and a myriad of other options exist.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> John wrote:
>>> Yeah but don't be disappointed in me, be disappointed in the politicians
>
>>> that expect me to vote for them because they have a pretty color and
>
>>> not because they stand for anything.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>>> John, it's really disappointing to know that people who actually use
>
>>>> reason,
>>>> such as yourself, (instead of fear) aren't going to vote.
>>>>
>>>> -Carl
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550fbb0$1@linux...
>>>>> I'm not complaining. I'm just not finding any reason to vote. I'm
> a
>>>>> man of reason, not a sheep. If a politician can clearly tell me why
> I
>>>>> should vote for them I will be glad to listen to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find that politicians think of this as a game and not truly affecting
>>>>> peoples lives. I hate it when people vote for their own special
>>>>> interests. I will never do that. Whenever I vote it will be because
>>>>> the issues are the best for everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I often recommend cutting government programs and people say "But you
>>>>> work for government, your job could be cut" and I say "Good !".
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, John. Here's the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I kinda agree with you on some level. If I'm given a choice of two
>>>> idiots,
>>>>>> and told that if I don't vote for one of them, then I am somehow a
>
>>>>>> civic
>>>>>> failure, well, that doesn't cut it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that you're not helping. It's like someone gives you
> a
>>>> menu
>>>>>> of two foods you don't like, so you refuse to eat at all. The folks
>>>> happily
>>>>>> eating crap aren't phased at all. The only person who gets starved
> is
>>>> you.
>>>>>> Ha ha. Boy, you sure showed them!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's needed? Real food! If there's none out there to choose, grow
>
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> of your own! Cook it yourself!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get my analogy? The whole "If you don't vote you can't compain" is
> as
>>>> lame
>>>>>> as saying,"If you don't wear a bullet-proof vest every waking hour
> and
>>>> then
>>>>>> get shot and injured, you can't complain."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You shouldn't have to wear a bullet proof suit! you shouldn't have
> to
>>>> vote
>>>>>> for idiots!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the solution requires a lot, a WHOLE lot, more than just emerging
>>>> from
>>>>>> your political groundhog hoe every two years to see if it's raining
>>>> idiots
>>>>>> or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no one has a plan you can endorse, find likeminded people and
>>>>>> come up
>>>>>> with one yourself! Then find someone who will follow it! if you can't
>>>> find
>>>>>> someone, well, how about doing it yourself!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what causes have inspired you to take political action? None?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the answer to those who say if you don't vote you can't
>>>>>> complain.
>>>>>> You can complain. But if you do NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN, well, then, you
>>>> can't
>>>>>> complain...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can, however, drink. It is still a free...to drink...country...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, I suppose that's your right - however, everyone that does vote
>>>> won't
>>>>>>> respect your opinion - and you really shouldn't argue about how bad
> or
>>>> good
>>>>>>> things go - if you don't concern yourself to participate, then don't
>>>> bitch.
>>>>>>> C'mon John... you gotta do better than that. At *least* I did what
> I'm
>>>> able
>>>>>>> to do today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, I should say, that I agree with you, in that these are times
> that
>>>> lack
>>>>>>> leadership with true inspiration and vision. And, if you are planning
>>>> or
>>>>>>> going to run for elected office - then I owe you much kudos - BUT,
> if
>>>> you're
>>>>>>> just doing *nothing* but bitching.... then.... boo. You'll lose no
>>>> matter
>>>>>>> what.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The polls are still open - you still have time man... !!! Do it!!!
>>>> C'mon
>>>>>>> man! :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> peace,
>>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4550e4be$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> fat chance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carl Amburn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I think that if you didn't vote - then you just need to shut your
>>>> mouth.
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>> -Carl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:stl1l2d5uubi8k8flvful5vvtcjsmb7er8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> i vote so later i can bitch about the idiots i didn't help get
>>>>>>>>>> elected...it's worked like a charm so far.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2006 23:51:27 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so I come to work and a coworker asks me if I'm going to vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I say "NO", there's nobody that meets my criteria for my vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then I ask if they know who they are going to vote for and they
>
>>>>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>> "Not
>>>>>>>>>>> yet but I will when I get to the polls".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hmm, brilliant !!!! I'm sure the next hour is plenty of time
> to
>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> you need about who you are voting for.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Vote for me! I'm a pretty color !!!
>>>>
>t'was a joke...
On 9 Nov 2006 03:24:24 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>Has nothing to do with Macs.
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>>working...this...sigh
>>
>>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>>
>>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Technology sucks!
>>>
>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
>side
>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>on
>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>right
>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>brilliant timing i say, absolutely brilliant on bush's part. maybe he
doesn't realize the election is over.
On 9 Nov 2006 06:01:38 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>suckaI got the joke, rick. If they did use Macs, they wouldn't crash and they
would be harder to hack, but of corse, not impossible.
James
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>t'was a joke...
>
>On 9 Nov 2006 03:24:24 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Has nothing to do with Macs.
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>>>working...this...sigh
>>>
>>>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>>>
>>>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Technology sucks!
>>>>
>>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
>>side
>>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>>on
>>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>>right
>>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>>
>That's been my experience in this hunt. I have a PDF of the manual, but zero
mentions on what kind of RAM or even what it does for you?
Sad man. The inside of this thing is painted with funny remarks (like, seriously...
they had a sense of humor) but this is kind of a major oversight. Probably
got stuffed by the suits :(
AA
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>I had a copy of the manual, but no where can I find any mention of the RAM
>specs. I guess they didn't want anyone to know. :>(
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:455148de@linux...
>> Anyone know what kind of memory this thing takes? I have one in from
some
>> friends I'm trying to trick out for them.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>>
>
>If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go for it.
That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you can
dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
AA
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>
>Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
>Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like
Ultrafex,
>Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
>they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
>peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story is
>sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
>pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs. to
>other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
>1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
>and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>
>zmora
>
>
>
>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
>any
>>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>>ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:45512e45@linux...
>>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>
>>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>
>>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
>see
>>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
>that
>>> list. YMMV.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>
>>>>>Ebay.
>>>>
>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>
>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>oh lord...
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:455243fc$1@linux...
>
> I got the joke, rick. If they did use Macs, they wouldn't crash and they
> would be harder to hack, but of corse, not impossible.
>
> James
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>t'was a joke...
>>
>>On 9 Nov 2006 03:24:24 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
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