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Wed, 18 January 2006 13:06  |
LaMont
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it... ;o)
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>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
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>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
seem
>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
>effect
>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
to
>>fix it.
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>>Looks like I'll
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63338 is a reply to message #63337] |
Wed, 18 January 2006 15:25  |
LaMont
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is still a question...
Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
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>Kim,
>
>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for
the
>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>
>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
100%
>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
when
>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more expensive
>though.
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>Mark
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of course
>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous UPS
>>on it... ;o)
>>
>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the meter
>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power glitch
>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a glitch...
>>
>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house, the
>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
seem
>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
>effect
>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
to
>>fix it.
>>
>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>I'll be there...
Martin H
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43fb262e@linux...
> Strewth!!! ;o) Tell us what you need. One morning you will wake up to an
> invitation to a pub. When you get to the pub, it will be packed with
> people.
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63349 is a reply to message #63338] |
Wed, 18 January 2006 17:43 |
Jamie K
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>>>CREDIT CARDS.
>>>
>>>If you get any other account they ding you a percent of your asking fee.
>>> People with credit cards can get their own paypal account and pay the
>>>percent and then transfer the correct amount to you.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>rick wrote:
>>>
>>>>if i have to have one to sell my paris stuff which one is the right
>>>>one to have?
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>
>>Speaking of contracts, this may be asking a lot, but here goes. Does anybody
have a work for hire contract(s) they could send me? There use to be software
available from MIX Book shelf, but I have no idea if anything is still available
anymore. I need something that will stand up if challenged.
Basically, looking for something to the effect of, you been paid, so any
work or contribution becomes part of the work and you have no rights to any
of the work. You will be credited for performance only, no song writing
credit, etc.
Maybe somebody could point me to some boilerplate contracts?
I hope this isn't asking too much.
Thanks in advance!
James
excelsm@hotmail.comJust got an ADAT card. Wondering how I might set this up:
I'm looking to patch channels off the 8-way lightpipe in directly to an 8-channel
out (ie, a Send from the 2408 through the lightpipe). Then I'm trying to
direct patch the corresponding 8-channel ins back to the 8-way lightpipe
out (ie, a Return via the lightpipe).
Make any sense? I've gotten used to all the bells and whistles in Cubase
but I still just *like* the sound of the PARIS converters vs the 2408 converters.
So I'm trying to use the lightpipe as a big ol' FX loop.
I'm running a single-MEC system on XP. One active 8in (i have a second in
but have already gone into the patch bay and swapped it out for the ADAT
card), one active 8out, and one ADAT card.
Doable?Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
a unit.
One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
best,
DC
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually do
>something about brown outs.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Don,
That's a great idea about the power company. I'll give them a call tonight.
If we're lucky, as you say, they'll find a fault in the street and will be
able to fix it and we wont have to spend a dime. (not that we have have dimes
down here ;o) I've never heard of anyone getting monitoring gear put on,
but then I've never known anybody with a problem like this.
Definately worth a shot. Fixing the power is by far the best way to fix the
problem.
Cheers,
Kim.
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.org
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63351 is a reply to message #63349] |
Wed, 18 January 2006 17:59 |
Bill Lorentzen
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ll the bells and whistles in Cubase
> but I still just *like* the sound of the PARIS converters vs the 2408 converters.
> So I'm trying to use the lightpipe as a big ol' FX loop.
>
> I'm running a single-MEC system on XP. One active 8in (i have a second in
> but have already gone into the patch bay and swapped it out for the ADAT
> card), one active 8out, and one ADAT card.
>
> Doable?
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Well the power company has been and gone. They have no magic monitoring device
which keeps an eye on your power unfortunately. They checked all the wiring
out the front, saying it's all new, and left.
On the other hand they did say that there have been power problems in the
area, but he said they solved it all about two weeks ago. Funny he said that
as the UPS was making strange clicking noises up until about two weeks ago,
so I'm guessing that may have been related to it. I'm also suspicious that
there may be some other problem that still hasn't been solved. Maybe it's
just a matter of waiting a week or two for a couple more people in the street
to make complaints so they go and find the actual fault.
In any case the server has been running fine since I started this thread.
Let's not panic quite yet...
Cheers,
Kim.
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.org> wrote:
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>Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
>range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
>fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
>the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
>a unit.
>
>One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
>one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
>We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
>One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
>DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
>up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
>and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
>
>Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
>company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
>to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
>provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
>It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
>never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
>
>best,
>
>DC
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually do
>>something about brown outs.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>Yeah good point. I didn't realize the personal account was so close to
worthless. Looks like Paypal has monopoly on this. Is there an
alternative way to sell something for a price and not get dinged short
of having them mail a check and waiting till it clears?
Thanks,
John
W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> Not with Premier - that's why I recommend it for anyone whose selling more
> than the kids winter clothes on ebay. I'm not afraid of CCs... nice to be
> able to take Discover, Amex, Visa, MC, eCheck, etc as debit or credit.Thanks for the great tips. I'm actually pretty solid now back in win98.
I tend to push paris past what it wants to do also. Adding /removing
plugs while playing, turning on / off looping while
playing.....basically doing what is intuitive to me but paris no likey.
I'm getting much more solid by just using it for tracking only and not
dinking with it while tracking, then doing mixdown afterwards adding in
plugs and such.
I don't know if PT lets you add/remove plugs while recording/playing but
it sure would be nice. Thanks.
Mike Audet wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I know you've posted a lot of questions about your problems over the last
> while, and I don't remember all the ins and outs, so I appologize if I'm
> repeating what's allready been said (maybe even by me).
>
> I used PARIS all day yesterday transferring tapes - at least 9 or 10 hours
> straight and no plobelms at all. It can just work.
>
> To succeed, PARIS (in my expereince) needs:
>
> lots of
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63359 is a reply to message #63351] |
Wed, 18 January 2006 22:21 |
LaMont
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n't
> > play".
> > To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
> > "Oh....it's a data CD?"
> > "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your wife?"
> > "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
> > So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
> >
> >
> > The things you have to put up with sometimes.
> >
> > Rod
> >
>
>http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=936What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without that
it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the native
> intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot as
> well.
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:43fa69db$1@linux...
>> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
>>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a CD-Rom
>> containing
>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work. It
> was
>>> labled "Data CD".
>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools guy
>> could
>>> drag them in to his session.
>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried to
>> listen
>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
> won't
>>> play".
>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
>>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your wife?"
>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
>>>
>>>
>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>
>
>Not a silly idea at all. I may just do that.
Cheers,
Kim.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>I would drop a leaflet in your neighbors post boxes prompting them to
>complain... brownouts are really hard on things like motors (fridge,
>A/C, furnace etc.).
>
>David.
>
>Kim wrote:
>> Well the power company has been and gone. They have no magic monitoring
device
>> which keeps an eye on your power unfortunately. They checked all the wiring
>> out the front, saying it's all new, and left.
>>
>> On the other hand they did say that there have been power problems in
the
>> area, but he said they solved it all about two weeks ago. Funny he said
that
>> as the UPS was making strange clicking noises up until about two weeks
ago,
>> so I'm guessing that may have been related to it. I'm also suspicious
that
>> there may be some other problem that still hasn't been solved. Maybe it's
>> just a matter of waiting a week or two for a couple more people in the
street
>> to make complaints so they go and find the actual fault.
>>
>> In any case the server has been running fine since I started this thread.
>> Let's not panic quite yet...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamyermama.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
>>>range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
>>>fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
>>>the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
>>>a unit.
>>>
>>>One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
>>>one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
>>>We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
>>>One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
>>>DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
>>>up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
>>>and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
>>>
>>>Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
>>>company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
>>>to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
>>>provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
>>>It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
>>>never kn
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Wed, 18 January 2006 22:55 |
Jamie K
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nospam.kc.rr.com" target="_blank">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
>>>>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a CD-Rom
>>>> containing
>>>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work. It
>>> was
>>>>> labled "Data CD".
>>>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools
> guy
>>>> could
>>>>> drag them in to his session.
>>>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried to
>>>> listen
>>>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
>>> won't
>>>>> play".
>>>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
>>>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
>>>>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your wife?"
>>>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
>>>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rod
>>>>>
>>>
>
>>If you are trying to send 8 channels out of the MOTU into Paris in order
>to bypass the 2408's mediocre converters and just use Paris as better
>AD/DA then yes that will work.
Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm trying to do.
Maybe I'm just clueless. I don't have an ADAT manual, so let me describe
what I've done so far:
Installed back card
Installed front card
Connected 2408 to ADAT card with lightpipe only (no sync connection)
Started PARIS 3.0
Opened patch bay
Configured "MEC Modules" to include ADAT in (1-8) and A8i (9-16)
Configured "MEC Modules" to include ADAT out (1-8) and A8o (9-16)
Patched ADAT in 3-4 to A8out 3-4 to PCM90
Patched PCM90 to A8in 3-4 to ADAT out 3-4
The 2408 shows that it's sending from SX on ADAT 3-4 but nothing comes back.
The ADAT card has two solid green indicators on it; "optical lock" changes
from blinking to solid (as I would expect it to) depending on if the 2408
is present or not.
Breaking the loop and patching ADAT in 3-4 to the mixer doesn't yield any
joy, either. I'd expect to see the signal inbound from SX appear at the
mixer in that scenario but it doesn't.
I'm using 24bit and 48K in Cubase and PARIS. The clocking is currently derived
from PARIS SPDIF. I've been using the SPDIF connection in this fashion for
a few months now and it works very well indeed.
Is there some other process required? I see that clicking on the ADAT module
brings up what appears to be a "remote arming/transport" window but PARIS
tells me that doesn't apply since there isn't a remote ADAT.
Any advice would be helpful. I guess I just kinda figured that the ADAT
card, even though it would truncate to 20 bits, wouldn't have any trouble
with a 24-bit lightpipe and I'd be able to basically mirror my SPDIF connnection
(digital in patched directly to analog out, analog in patched directly to
digital out). Like Chris said, basically using PARIS as a digital mixer
for zero-latency monitoring and improved conversion.
Thanks!Did you run any "patch cables" inside the Paris patchbay window???
David.
JB wrote:
>>If you are trying to send 8 channels out of the MOTU into Paris in order
>
>
>>to bypass the 2408's mediocre converters and just use Paris as better
>>AD/DA then yes that will work.
>
>
> Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm trying to do.
>
> Maybe I'm just clueless. I don't have an ADAT manual, so let me describe
> what I've done so far:
>
> Installed back card
> Installed front card
> Connected 2408 to ADAT card with lightpipe only (no sync connection)
> Started PARIS 3.0
> Opened patch bay
> Configured "MEC Modules" to include ADAT in (1-8) and A8i (9-16)
> Configured "MEC Modules" to include ADAT out (1-8) and A8o (9-16)
> Patched ADAT in 3-4 to A8out 3-4 to PCM90
> Patched PCM90 to A8in 3-4 to ADAT out 3-4
>
> The 2408 shows that it's sending from SX on ADAT 3-4 but nothing comes back.
>
> The ADAT card has two solid green indicators on it; "optical lock" changes
> from blinking to solid (as I would expect it to) depending on if the 2408
> is present or not.
>
> Breaking the loop and patching ADAT in 3-4 to the mixer doesn't yield any
> joy, either. I'd expect to see the signal inbound from SX appear at the
> mixer in that scenario but it doesn't.
>
> I'm using 24bit and 48K in Cubase and PARIS. The clocking is currently derived
> from PARIS SPDIF. I've been using the SPDIF connection in this fashion for
> a few months now and it works very well indeed.
>
> Is there some other process required? I see that clicking on the ADAT module
> brings up what appears to be a "remote arming/transport" window but PARIS
> tells me that doesn't apply since there isn't a remote ADAT.
>
> Any advice would be helpful. I guess I just kinda figured that the ADAT
> card, even though it would truncate to 20 bits, wouldn't have any trouble
> with a 24-bit lightpipe and I'd be able to basically mirror my SPDIF connnection
> (digital in patched directly to analog out, analog in patched directly to
> digital out). Like Chris said, basically using PARIS as a digital mixer
> for zero-latency monitoring and improved conversion.
>
> Thanks!
>My addy is much shorter and easier to test with than Deej's
Don
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43fc8942@linux...
> Now all you need to do is go to the *Send Money section and type in my
> e-mail address. It's simple.
>
> ;o)
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:he0pv1t879asqk6n51e7bb23jfppnrqj9p@4ax.com...
>> i have no clue as to how it works but its up.
>
>I'm not sure why you would be wanting to add/remove plugins whilst
recording, (especially), or playback.
No system is designed to do that, and no pro would do it whilst recording,
(at least none that I know).
I was constantly pushing Paris past what it was designed to do, especially
on XP, and never had issues with stability, just functionality, in that I
was trying, mostly successfully, to run video with it
For me, it came to a point where I needed more from Paris than it was able
to give. in terms of video support, so I went to Nuendo....but.....it
certainly doesn't sound as warm and forgiving as Paris.
with the video work I do, it's not a great problem and it's more than
compensated for by the ease of use and editing variety that I can perform,
plus plug-ins delay compensation...with video timing, that's a "must"
Regards
Martin Harrington
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43fc5adc$1@linux...
> Thanks for the great tips. I'm actually pretty solid now back in win98. I
> tend to push paris past what it wants to do also. Adding /removing plugs
> while playing, turning on / off looping while playing.....basically doing
> what is intuitive to me but paris no likey. I'm getting much more solid by
> just using it for tracking only and not dinking with it while tracking,
> then doing mixdown afterwards adding in plugs and such.
>
> I don't know if PT lets you add/remove plugs while recording/playing but
> it sure would be nice. Thanks.
>
> Mike Audet wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I know you've posted a lot of questions about your problems over the last
>> while, and I don't re
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Thu, 19 January 2006 01:25 |
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>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Did you run any "patch cables" inside the Paris patchbay window???
>
>David.
Yes. I'd "soft-patched" digital to analog using the PARIS patchbay.
So I fired everything up tonight using the same config and it worked flawlessly
all night exactly as you and I would have expected. Go figure. Can't really
explain what was garfed up last night.
Maybe it was the burnt offering where I called upon the spirit of Mr. Simplicity.
Or it might just be time to check the meds again. : )
Bless both your hearts for your timely attention and assistance. I'll ping
back if it acts up again but I'm fairly confident it should be good now.OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
AA
"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message news:43fccd92$1@linux...
> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=936
>Apparently tomorrow night, "Canada clashes with Norway in curling".
Ummm...I'm not a curling expert, but have seen it in the Olympics
before...shouldn't that be something like "Canada bumps into Norway in
curling"?
Or maybe "Norway brushes with Canada", or "Canada slides and collides with
Norway"?
Maybe the announcer has never seen curling. Seems to me "clashing" would be
the one move guaranteed to lose the match.
DTPaper ballots would be fine by me. Redundant oversight by election officials
representing all parties would be fine too. I wouldn't give a flip if it
took a week or two to count the votes. The media would probably hate this
because of the *need it now* mindset, but too bad. I think exit polls should
be outlawed. the voters need to be responsible enough to show up at the
proper polling stations during the hours when the polls are open.......no
excuses, no exceptions and no one should be allowed to vote without a voter
registration and verifiable picture ID/ proof of citizenship. All voter
registration should be completed 60 days so that registrants can be vetted
and validated.during that time. Provisional balloting should be severely
restricted or disallowed altogether. If you can't prove who your are and
that you have the right to vote and you aren't capable of keeping your
affairs in order to
properly exercise you voting right within the legal guidelines and
timeframe, you're SOL.
Deej
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fd3595@linux...
>
> Deej, you can read this long rant. But go here, too:
>
> http://www.votersunite.org/
>
> There is no bulletproof election system. I favor voting systems that are
> run publicly, not privately. I wouldn't outsource elections across the
> country to a few companies. It just invites corruption.
>
> In Canada they vote with paper ballots. The count is quick and the
> opportunity for fraud is much less than with invisibly hackable
> computer-based systems.
>
> An electronic voting machine with a removable memory card that can be
> easily hacked on site is the wrong way to go. Any system hackable via
> the internet is the wrong way to go. Any system with proprietary
> software that cannot be tested for vote altering routines is the wrong
> way to go. Any system that has a central counting server that can be
> hacked is the wrong way to go.
>
> Beyond making fraud easier, and difficult or impossible to trace,
> computer-based systems also suffer software and hardware bugs and
> failures that could change vote totals accidentally.
>
> Proposals to tie the strengths of each together include touchscreen
> systems that generate a voter-verifiable paper ballot. IF the paper
> ballot is what is actually counted, that has potential. Some of these
> schemes just have the paper as a backup for 1% random recounts in an
> attempt to catch fraud, but they use the electronic count as THE count.
> That is iffy. Some count paper ballots with scanners. The scanners can
> be hacked, so testing with manual counts is important.
>
> Right now there are a few companies wining and dining county clerks and
> landing huge contracts. These companies count your vote. I've seen the
> claim that 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two
> companies: Diebold and ES&S. FWIW the vice president of Diebold and the
> president of ES&S are reportedly brothers.
>
> You mentioned felons, it's been reported that Diebold has five felons on
> their development team and a Senior VP who was convicted of 23 counts of
> felony theft.
>
> Proprietary code runs on the machines. No one is allowed to look at the
> code. Their technicians have way too much opportunity on-site and in
> tabulation centers because the county people don't know how to run them.
> Systems are inadequately tested and then given approval without real
> tests for security and reliability.
>
> Why is this happening? Follow the money.
>
> Computer-based voting machines are sold as a way to make elections
> easier for the clerks (clerks eat that up), but democracy isn't about
> being easy. They are taking advantage of HAVA laws that spend large
> amounts of your federal tax money on systems that are supposed to be
> easier for handicapped voters, while making voting less secure and
> accurate for all voters. The handicapped voters I have heard speak about
> this do NOT like being used to promote poor systems. They want secure,
> accurate, voter-verifiably systems, too. It doesn't have to be one or
> the other.
>
> Where I live, the county uses touchscreen voting systems with no paper
> trail. I have no idea if my vote is registering accurately or being
> counted at all. I testified about this in the state leg. We made some
> progress in Colorado but much more needs to be done.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
> PS. Other kinds of fraud exist, too. There are fights about registration
> as you point out, and other tricks to slant the turnout. It just goes to
> show how much the temptation to cheat brings out cheating. No amount of
> fraud in one area justifies making the system worse in another. We
> shouldn't have to accept systems that invite invisible electronic fraud,
> especially knowing how strong the temptation is to cheat.
>
> We're talking about the potential for hidden, major fraud opportunities
> in all elections on every level. Not just presidential/electoral college
> situations. It's not good.
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > I'm with you there Jamie. It just seems like there is so much potential
for
> > fraud, not only with voting machines and punch cards but also with the
> > additional problem of registration fraud and the inevitable muddying of
the
> > waters by the various interest groups who are always bitching about
state
> > laws which disallow those convicted of felons to vote. Rather than
working
> > to have the laws changed, they seem to want to keep them in place so
that
> > they can use them opportunistically at election time in order to paint
the
> > *establishment* as unfair and hard hearted. Then after the election is
over,
> > the whole issue is forgotten. It's incredibly hippocritical.
> >
> > What would you suggest as a bulletproof electoral system, keeping in
mind
> > that since this is a representative republic with an electoral college,
the
> > electors will have the final vote?
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fce77a@linux...
> >> Nice quote Deej, that takes me back. I think if Ronnie were still
> >> around, he would be in strong support of reliable, secure, private,
> >> voter-verified voting systems in the U. S. of A.
> >>
> >> As would any red blooded freedom loving American, like yourself. We're
> >> not there at the moment and it's not a good thing for any voter and
> >> taxpayer, be they Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent
> >> or other.
> >>
> >> The unfortunate thing is that non-secure, non-verifiable systems were
> >> proposed and actually adopted in some places to replace the chad
fiasco.
> >> Out of the frying pan into the fire.
> >>
> >> More here: http://www.blackboxvoting.org
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Jamie
> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> DJ wrote:
> >>> Now there you go again..........
> >>>
> >>> ;o)
> >>>
> >>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
> > news:43fcd7c0$1@linux...
> >>>> What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
> >>>> reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without
that
> >>>> it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> -Jamie
> >>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> DJ wrote:
> >>>>> I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the
native
> >>>>> intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot
> > as
> >>>>> well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:43fa69db$1@linux...
> >>>>>> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jimmy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
> >>>>>>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a
> > CD-Rom
> >>>>>> containing
> >>>>>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some othe
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63371 is a reply to message #63370] |
Thu, 19 January 2006 01:46 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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work.
> > It
> >>>>> was
> >>>>>>> labled "Data CD".
> >>>>>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the
protools
> >>> guy
> >>>>>> could
> >>>>>>> drag them in to his session.
> >>>>>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just
tried
> > to
> >>>>>> listen
> >>>>>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and
it
> >>>>> won't
> >>>>>>> play".
> >>>>>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
> >>>>>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
> >>>>>>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your
wife?"
> >>>>>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
> >>>>>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Rod
> >>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
> OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
> AA
>
>
> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
news:43fccd92$1@linux...
> > http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=936
> >
>
>Now right there you came extremely close to making me spurt my morning cuppa
all over my laptop. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Gotta have geo-thermal back-up as well... that way, if there is ever
>an extinction level event, the server will keep running! Oh, wait...
>crap... never mind.
>
>David.
>
>DJ wrote:
>> Sorry.....this is what I was referring to-
>>
>> http://norwall.com/kohprice.htm
>>
>> Any of them would probably work OK for a computer. There's a real nifty
>> natural gas powered one for $23,000.00. I'm trying to figure out how to
use
>> it as a patchbay.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:43fc8f79@linux...
>>
>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
>>
>>>ome/BackupGenerators.html
>>>
>>>We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it
on
>>>when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
>>>>
>>>>Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
>>>
>>>like
>>>
>>>>others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the UPS
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
>>>>
>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Kim,
>>>>>
>>>>>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short
for
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
>>>>
>>>>100%
>>>>
>>>>>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
>>>>
>>>>when
>>>>
>>>>>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
>>>
>>>expensive
>>>
>>>>>though.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
>>>
>>>course
>>>
>>>>>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
>>>
>>>UPS
>>>
>>>>>>on it... ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I
>>
>> went
>>
>>>>>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
>>
>> it's
>>
>>>>>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
>>>
>>>meter
>>>
>>>>>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
>>>
>>>glitch
>>>
>>>>>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
>>>
>>>glitch...
>>>
>>>>>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
>>>>
>>>>seem
>>>>
>>>>>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>>effect
>>>>>
>>>>>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>DJ wrote:
> Paper ballots would be fine by me. Redundant oversight by election officials
> representing all parties would be fine too. I wouldn't give a flip if it
> took a week or two to count the votes. The media would probably hate this
> because of the *need it now* mindset, but too bad.
Agreed, absolutely. And it's entirely possible to count paper ballots in
a few hours.
> I think exit polls should
> be outlawed.
That's a tough one. First amendment issue.
> the voters need to be responsible enough to show up at the
> proper polling stations during the hours when the polls are open.......no
> excuses, no exceptions and no one should be allowed to vote without a voter
> registration and verifiable picture ID/ proof of citizenship. All voter
> registration should be completed 60 days so that registrants can be vetted
> and validated.during that time. Provisional balloting should be severely
> restricted or disallowed altogether. If you can't prove who your are and
> that you have the right to vote and you aren't capable of keeping your
> affairs in order to
> properly exercise you voting right within the legal guidelines and
> timeframe, you're SOL.
I agree somewhat, except if shenanigans are being pulled to
disenfranchise voters by underserving certain areas (long lines
discourage voting), or if ID systems amount to a poll tax, which is
illegal. ID is important, though. Also, 60 days is probably much longer
than necessary.
We can agree or disagree here and there, but the gigantic issue towering
over the rest is that the voting system is fast becoming untraceably
corruptible on a very wide scale. That must MUST be fixed, and soon.
Unfortunately the chairman of the committee who needs to approve changes
is blocking any attempt to fix HAVA, (he's from Ohio, home of Diebold).
Counties are itching to spend HAVA money now if they haven't already,
most interpret the law as mandating immediate spending which leaves them
choosing insecure systems. It's not only a huge waste of tax money but a
direct threat to your vote.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> Deej
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fd3595@linux...
>> Deej, you can read this long rant. But go here, too:
>>
>> http://www.votersunite.org/
>>
>> There is no bulletproof election system. I favor voting systems that are
>> run publicly, not privately. I wouldn't outsource elections across the
>> country to a few companies. It just invites corruption.
>>
>> In Canada they vote with paper ballots. The count is quick and the
>> opportunity for fraud is much less than with invisibly hackable
>> computer-based systems.
>>
>> An electronic voting machine with a removable memory card that can be
>> easily hacked on site is the wrong way to go. Any system hackable via
>> the internet is the wrong way to go. Any system with proprietary
>> software that cannot be tested for vote altering routines is the wrong
>> way to go. Any system that has a central counting server that can be
>> hacked is the wrong way to go.
>>
>> Beyond making fraud easier, and difficult or impossible to trace,
>> computer-based systems also suffer software and hardware bugs and
>> failures that could change vote totals accidentally.
>>
>> Proposals to tie the strengths of each together include touchscreen
>> systems that generate a voter-verifiable paper ballot. IF the paper
>> ballot is what is actually counted, that has potential. Some of these
>> schemes just have the paper as a backup for 1% random recounts in an
>> attempt to catch fraud, but they use the electronic count as THE count.
>> That is iffy. Some count paper ballots with scanners. The scanners can
>> be hacked, so testing with manual counts is important.
>>
>> Right now there are a few companies wining and dining county clerks and
>> landing huge contracts. These companies count your vote. I've seen the
>> claim that 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two
>> companies: Diebold and ES&S. FWIW the vice president of Diebold and the
>> president of ES&S are reportedly brothers.
>>
>> You mentioned felons, it's been reported that Diebold has five felons on
>> their development team and a Senior VP who was convicted of 23 counts of
>> felony theft.
>>
>> Proprietary code runs on the machines. No one is allowed to look at the
>> code. Their technicians have way too much opportunity on-site and in
>> tabulation centers because the county people don't know how to run them.
>> Systems are inadequately tested and then given approval without real
>> tests for security and reliability.
>>
>> Why is this happening? Follow the money.
>>
>> Computer-based voting machines are sold as a way to make elections
>> easier for the clerks (clerks eat that up), but democracy isn't about
>> being easy. They are taking advantage of HAVA laws that spend large
>> amounts of your federal tax money on systems that are supposed to be
>> easier for handicapped voters, while making voting less secure and
>> accurate for all voters. The handicapped voters I have heard speak about
>> this do NOT like being used to promote poor systems. They want secure,
>> accurate, voter-verifiably systems, too. It doesn't have to be one or
>> the other.
>>
>> Where I live, the county uses touchscreen voting systems with no paper
>> trail. I have no idea if my vote is registering accurately or being
>> counted at all. I testified about this in the state leg. We made some
>> progress in Colorado but much more needs to be done.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>> PS. Other kinds of fraud exist, too. There are fights about registration
>> as you point out, and other tricks to slant the turnout. It just goes to
>> show how much the temptation to cheat brings out cheating. No amount of
>> fraud in one area justifies making the system worse in another. We
>> shouldn't have to accept systems that invite invisible electronic fraud,
>> especially knowing how strong the temptation is to cheat.
>>
>> We're talking about the potential for hidden, major fraud opportunities
>> in all elections on every level. Not just presidential/electoral college
>> situations. It's not good.
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> I'm with you there Jamie. It just seems like there is so much potential
> for
>>> fraud, not only with voting machines and punch cards but also with the
>>> additional problem of registration fraud and the inevitable muddying of
> the
>>> waters by the various interest groups who are always bitching about
> state
>>> laws which disallow those convicted of felons to vote. Rather than
> working
>>> to have the laws changed, they seem to want to keep them in place so
> that
>>> they can use them opportunistically at election time in order to paint
> the
>>> *establishment* as unfair and hard hearted. Then after the election is
> over,
>>> the whole issue is forgotten. It's incredibly hippocritical.
>>>
>>> What would you suggest as a bulletproof electoral system, keeping in
> mind
>>> that since this is a representative republic with an electoral college,
> the
>>> electors will have the final vote?
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fce77a@linux...
>>>> Nice quote Deej, that takes me back. I think if Ronnie were still
>>>> around, he would be in strong support of reliable, secure, private,
>>>> voter-verified voting systems in the U. S. of A.
>>>>
>>>> As would any red blooded freedom loving American, like yourself. We're
>>>> not there at the moment and it's not a good thing for any voter and
>>>> taxpayer, be they Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent
>>>> or other.
>>>>
>>>> The unfortunate thing is that non-secure, non-verifiable systems were
>>>> proposed and actually adopted in some places to replace the chad
> fiasco.
>>>> Out of the frying pan into the fire.
>>>>
>>>> More here: http://www.blackboxvoting.org
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63375 is a reply to message #63370] |
Thu, 19 January 2006 04:29 |
excelav
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Registered: July 2005
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et" target="_blank">mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
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> > http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3D936
> >
>
>
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Deej.. as you were man. You 'know' you gotta have it.
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:43fd6c69@linux...
DJ,
Ah but yes, if there's a Magma PCI-E card to support
the older PCI jobbers we use. =20
Face it. You have to have one.
Tom
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:43fd4eb5@linux...
PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
> OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
> AA
>
>
> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
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> > http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3D936
> >
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ah but yes, if there's a Magma =
PCI-E card to=20
support</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the older PCI jobbers we use. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Face it. You have to have =
one.</FONT></DIV>
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wrote in message <A=20
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man. It's a=20
no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.<BR><BR>"Aaron Allen" =
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the first two letters of now right.
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:00:07 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>My addy is much shorter and easier to test with than Deej's
>
>Don
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:43fc8942@linux...
>> Now all you need to do is go to the *Send Money section and type in my
>> e-mail address. It's simple.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:he0pv1t879asqk6n51e7bb23jfppnrqj9p@4ax.com...
>>> i have no clue as to how it works but its up.
>>
>>
>ever been hit with a big ass piece of rock mister??? huh huh huh???
curling is hockey times 10...no make that a bajillion!
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:22:46 -0700, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
wrote:
>Apparently tomorrow night, "Canada clashes with Norway in curling".
>
>Ummm...I'm not a curling expert, but have seen it in the Olympics
>before...shouldn't that be something like "Canada bumps into Norway in
>curling"?
>
>Or maybe "Norway brushes with Canada", or "Canada slides and collides with
>Norway"?
>
>Maybe the announcer has never seen curling. Seems to me "clashing" would be
>the one move guaranteed to lose the match.
>
>DTwho said I was a pro? I did write a song about a dog. Does that count?
The more I use Paris the more I see how it is intended to be used. For
example when I'm tracking a guitar and the vocal is playing back I would
try to add a compressor, reverb etc and dial it in while tracking the
other instrument. I'm learning what is and is not allowed in Paris
world still and am getting more stable as I learn best practices. But
what's intuitive to me is not necessarily what Paris allows.
Rock on,
John
Martin Harrington wrote:
> I'm not sure why you would be wanting to add/remove plugins whilst
> recording, (especially), or playback.
> No system is designed to do that, and no pro would do it whilst recording,
> (at least none that I know).
> I was constantly pushing Paris past what it was designed to do, especially
> on XP, and never had issues with stability, just functionality, in that I
> was trying, mostly successfully, to run video with it
> For me, it came to a point where I needed more from Paris than it was able
> to give. in terms of video support, so I went to Nuendo....but.....it
> certainly doesn't sound as warm and forgiving as Paris.
> with the video work I do, it's not a great problem and it's more than
> compensated for by the ease of use and editing variety that I can perform,
> plus plug-ins delay compensation...with video timing, that's a "must"
>
> Regards
> Martin Harrington
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43fc5adc$1@linux...
>
>>Thanks for the great tips. I'm actually pretty solid now back in win98. I
>>tend to push paris past what it wants to do also. Adding /removing plugs
>>while playing, turning on / off looping while playing.....basically doing
>>what is intuitive to me but paris no likey. I'm getting much more solid by
>>just using it for tracking only and not dinking with it while tracking,
>>then doing mixdown afterwards adding in plugs and such.
>>
>>I don't know if PT lets you add/remove plugs while recording/playing but
>>it sure would be nice. Thanks.
>>
>>Mike Audet wrote:
>>
>>>Hi John,
>>>
>>>I know you've posted a lot of questions about your problems over the last
>>>while, and I don't remember all the ins and outs, so I appologize if I'm
>>>repeating what's allready been said (maybe even by me).
>>>
>>>I used PARIS all day yesterday transferring tapes - at least 9 or 10
>>>hours
>>>straight and no plobelms at all. It can just work.
>>>
>>&
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63383 is a reply to message #63375] |
Thu, 19 January 2006 09:18 |
LaMont
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nk">nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Deej.. as you were man. You 'know' you gotta have it.
>>AA
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>news:43fd6c69@linux...
>> DJ,
>> Ah but yes, if there's a Magma PCI-E card to support
>> the older PCI jobbers we use. =20
>>
>> Face it. You have to have one.
>> Tom
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>news:43fd4eb5@linux...
>> PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
>> > OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
>> > AA
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
>> news:43fccd92$1@linux...
>> > > http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3D936
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej.. as you were man. You 'know' you
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>>in message=20
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ah but yes, if there's a Magma =
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Face it. You have to have =
>>one.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>> =
>>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>>_@animas.net</A>>=20
>> wrote in message <A=20
>> href=3D"news:43fd4eb5@linux">news:43fd4eb5@linux</A>...</DIV>PCI-E =
>>man. It's a=20
>> no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.<BR><BR>"Aaron Allen" =
>><<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
>>wrote in=20
>> message<BR><A=20
>> href=3D"news:43fd3efc$1@linux">news:43fd3efc$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>OH man.=20
>> Deej will have to have this or he'll......<BR>>=20
>> AA<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Mark McCurdy" <<A=20
>> href=3D"mailto:mark@mccurdy.net">mark@mccurdy.net</A>> wrote in=20
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>It says down on the left PCI and PCIe cards sold seperately so
maybe it can do PCI.I might be misunderstanding.
Pete
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
>> OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
>news:43fccd92$1@linux...
>> > http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=936
>> >
>>
>>
>
>OK - did some more testing yesterday. Again, this is an AMD X2 3800+ dual
core processor.
With just /intaffinity, the transport would be locked up almost immediately.
I could never use the C16 for anything.
With /intaffinity and /onecpu (/intaffinity probably unnecessary), it works
fine with no lockups.
For me, this is acceptable as I can reboot and do my video editing work with
both cores engaged. I don't need more horsepower than one core for Paris.
It seems like there was a way to force which processor was tasked to handle
the interrupts and its also possible to set the application to just one
processor. This may be another possibility that I'll look into later.
-Rohde
"Rohde Wakefield" <rohde @ iname.com> wrote in message news:...
> Hi Mike.
>
> I ran into this flag a month ago but haven't had a chance to test it
> during a session. I actually ran my last session (recording scratch tracks
> of my wife) without the C16 - just forgot to hook it up and never took the
> time to shutdown PARIS once we got rolling.
>
> When I found the switch, I also tried another switch (/onecpu). I'm about
> 80% sure one of these does the trick. That night I tried it and played
> through a project, trying fast moves on the C-16 - didn't see the problems
> I had before of the transport locking up.
>
> Hopefully someone using the system a bit more fulltime will have a chance
> to try it out.
>
> -Rohde
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@mike.....> wrote in message news:43f64525$1@linux...
>>
>> Has anyone tried using the "/INTAFFINITY" switch in the boot.ini file to
>> ressolve
>> the c16 issues with Windows XP?
>>
>> The switch tells Windows to rout all interupt requests through one CPU,
>> instead
>> of spreading them out over two. It definitly solves some driver problems
>> in dual CPU systems.
>>
>> I ran accross it trying to resolve a problem with a USB card on my Dual
>> Athlon.
>> I don't have any c16s to try it with, but my testing seems to show that
>> it puts about 10% more load on the highest numbered CPU, which is a small
>> price to pay if it solves a driver issue, especially in a dual core or
>> cpu
>> situation.
>>
>> Just wondering....
>>
>> Mike
>
>Just aim away from the server! And never use sugar in the coffee....
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Now right there you came extremely close to making me spurt my morning cuppa
>all over my laptop. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>Gotta have geo-thermal back-up as well... that way, if there is ever
>>an extinction level event, the server will keep running! Oh, wait...
>>crap... never mind.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>> Sorry.....this is what I was referring to-
>>>
>>> http://norwall.com/kohprice.htm
>>>
>>> Any of them would probably work OK for a computer. There's a real nifty
>>> natural gas powered one for $23,000.00. I'm trying to figure out how
to
>use
>>> it as a patchbay.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>> news:43fc8f79@linux...
>>>
>>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
>>>
>>>>ome/BackupGenerators.html
>>>>
>>>>We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it
>on
>>>>when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
>>>>>
>>>>>Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
>>>>
>>>>like
>>>>
>>>>>others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the
UPS
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
>>>>>
>>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short
>for
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
>>>>>
>>>>>100%
>>>>>
>>>>>>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
>>>>>
>>>>>when
>>>>>
>>>>>>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
>>>>
>>>>expensive
>>>>
>>>>>>though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but
of
>>>>
>>>>course
>>>>
>>>>>>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
>>>>
>>>>UPS
>>>>
>>>>>>>on it... ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when
I
>>>
>>> went
>>>
>>>>>>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
>>>
>>> it's
>>>
>>>>>>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at
the
>>>>
>>>>meter
>>>>
>>>>>>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
>>>>
>>>>glitch
>>>>
>>>>>>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
>>>>
>>>>glitch...
>>>>
>>>>>>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches
that
>>>>>
>>>>>seem
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>>effect
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>fix it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>This box would make relocating the PC to a quiet room a snap, without
the loss and noise involved in long VGA cable runs.
David.
Dominic wrote:
> Whats so great about this set up?
> Ive been running 4 monitors with PARIS for years.
> As a matter of fact I just hooked up a 30" plasma on one monitor. Gives me
> tons of landscape
>
> Dominic
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>
>>Deej.. as you were man. You 'know' you gotta have it.
>>AA
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>news:43fd6c69@linux...
>> DJ,
>> Ah but yes, if there's a Magma PCI-E card to support
>> the older PCI jobbers we use. =20
>>
>> Face it. You have to have one.
>> Tom
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63386 is a reply to message #63383] |
Thu, 19 January 2006 09:38 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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>I'm already running PCI and AGP video cards. the PCI card uses the same
driver as the AGP card and it's in a PCI slot that is hard wired to the AGP
port so I've got few if any issues. However, using the AGP slot would be
much preferred over PCI. Since AGP is apparently on the extinction list,
Since I'm using the AGP, I guess it may be a while before one of these boxes
shows up here.
Deej
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:43fdd2f6$1@linux...
>
> It says down on the left PCI and PCIe cards sold seperately so
> maybe it can do PCI.I might be misunderstanding.
>
> Pete
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
> >
> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
> >> OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
> >> AA
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
> >news:43fccd92$1@linux...
> >> > http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=936
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>I didn't know you could body check in curling. And why don't the goalies
wear padding?
And really, how bad could a 42lb piece of rock hurt sliding 0.01 miles an
hour on ice? ;-)
I think you have it backwards. Hockey is curly divided by pi, with the
bristles removed from the brushes.
On 2/23/06 2:47 AM, in article ts0rv1hh4fgdl0l50m8g650e5sagif0n4a@4ax.com,
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ever been hit with a big ass piece of rock mister??? huh huh huh???
> curling is hockey times 10...no make that a bajillion!
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:22:46 -0700, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Apparently tomorrow night, "Canada clashes with Norway in curling".
>>
>> Ummm...I'm not a curling expert, but have seen it in the Olympics
>> before...shouldn't that be something like "Canada bumps into Norway in
>> curling"?
>>
>> Or maybe "Norway brushes with Canada", or "Canada slides and collides with
>> Norway"?
>>
>> Maybe the announcer has never seen curling. Seems to me "clashing" would be
>> the one move guaranteed to lose the match.
>>
>> DT
>First time I paid attention to curling was when it was featured in
either Help or Hard Days Night (I forget which one had the curling going on)
I figured once they showed that on TV the world would be so bored that it
would be against the law to submit an audience to it ever again...........I
feel the same way about golf.
Deej
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C02294B6.1509%dterry@keyofd.net...
> Apparently tomorrow night, "Canada clashes with Norway in curling".
>
> Ummm...I'm not a curling expert, but have seen it in the Olympics
> before...shouldn't that be something like "Canada bumps into Norway in
> curling"?
>
> Or maybe "Norway brushes with Canada", or "Canada slides and collides with
> Norway"?
>
> Maybe the announcer has never seen curling. Seems to me "clashing" would
be
> the one move guaranteed to lose the match.
>
> DT
>Bruce Schneir has written about this extensively. Both electronic and non-electronic
voting systems can be used fradulently, and both have been.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2004/11/the_problem_wi t.html
Non-electronic voting systems are usually used fraudulently in ham fisted
ways like taking sacks of Joe Kennedy's cash to West Virginia to buy it for
his boy. Electronic ones are used differently when fraud is the goal. Any
rational US citizen should want accurate vote tallying and good electronic
systems (as Schneir points out) can make that result _more_ likely. Bad systems
almost assure bad tallies.
BTW - Democrat bellyaching about voter fraud rings rather hollow to one with
a solid understanding of US electoral history. Capitol D Democratic political
machines all over the East Coast and in Chicago and Ohio regularly brokered
presidential elections with deeply questionable tactics. The current Republican
administrations are using similar tactics to those they suffered for years
as the minority party. Payback's a bitch.
I voted for Nader last time, in case anyone is wondering, because he actually
_does_ want an accurate as opposed to winning vote count.
TCB
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Nice quote Deej, that takes me back. I think if Ronnie were still
>around, he would be in strong support of reliable, secure, private,
>voter-verified voting systems in the U. S. of A.
>
>As would any red blooded freedom loving American, like yourself. We're
>not there at the moment and it's not a good thing for any voter and
>taxpayer, be they Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent
>or other.
>
>The unfortunate thing is that non-secure, non-verifiable systems were
>proposed and actually adopted in some places to replace the chad fiasco.
>Out of the frying pan into the fire.
>
>More here: http://www.blackboxvoting.org
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>DJ wrote:
>> Now there you go again..........
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fcd7c0$1@linux...
>>> What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
>>> reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without that
>>> it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the native
>>>> intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot
as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:43fa69db$1@linux...
>>>>> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
>>>>>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a CD-Rom
>>>>> containing
>>>>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work.
It
>>>> was
>>>>>> labled "Data CD".
>>>>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools
>> guy
>>>>> could
>>>>>> drag them in to his session.
>>>>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried
to
>>>>> listen
>>>>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
>>>> won't
>>>>>> play".
>>>>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
>>>>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
>>>>>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your wife?"
>>>>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
>>>>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>The finest skill in Curling, is the ability to be able to stand on a
sheet of ice after consuming several jugs of beer... makes you wonder
how the Olympic curlers get past the drug screenings... ;-)
David.
DJ wrote:
> First time I paid attention to curling was when it was featured in
> either Help or Hard Days Night (I forget which one had the curling going on)
> I figured once they showed that on TV the world would be so bored that it
> would be against the law to submit an audience to it ever again...........I
> feel the same way about golf.
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
> news:C02294B6.1509%dterry@keyofd.net...
>
>>Apparently tomorrow night, "Canada clashes with Norway in curling".
>>
>>Ummm...I'm not a curling expert, but have seen it in the Olympics
>>before...shouldn't that be something like "Canada bumps into Norway in
>>curling"?
>>
>>Or maybe "Norway brushes with Canada", or "Canada slides and collides with
>>Norway"?
>>
>>Maybe the announcer has never seen curling. Seems to me "clashing" would
>
> be
>
>>the one move guaranteed to lose the match.
>>
>>DT
>>
>
>
>Bingo! You can isolate the CPU and eliminate the fan noise from your
control room. All though it would be interesting to see if this unit has a
fan. :) Maybe I should take a closer look haha.
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43fdda31$1@linux...
> This box would make relocating the PC to a quiet room a snap, without the
> loss and noise involved in long VGA cable runs.
>
> David.
>
> Dominic wrote:
>
>> Whats so great about this set up?
>> Ive been running 4 monitors with PARIS for years. As a matter of fact I
>> just hooked up a 30" plasma on one monitor. Gives me
>> tons of landscape
>>
>> Dominic
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Deej.. as you were man. You 'know' you gotta have it.
>>>AA
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>news:43fd6c69@linux...
>>> DJ,
>>> Ah but yes, if there's a Magma PCI-E card to support
>>> the older PCI jobbers we use. =20
>>>
>>> Face it. You have to have one.
>>> Tom
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
>>>news:43fd4eb5@linux...
>>> PCI-E man. It's a no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:43fd3efc$1@linux...
>>> > OH man. Deej will have to have this or he'll......
>>> > AA
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:43fccd92$1@linux...
>>> > > http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3D936
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5296.0" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej.. as you were man. You 'know' you
>>
>> =
>>
>>>gotta have=20
>>>it.</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>>>in message=20
>>> <A href=3D"news:43fd6c69@linux">news:43fd6c69@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ah but yes, if there's a Magma =
>>>PCI-E card to=20
>>> support</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the older PCI jobbers we use. =
>>></FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Face it. You have to have =
>>>one.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>>>_@animas.net</A>>=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> href=3D"news:43fd4eb5@linux">news:43fd4eb5@linux</A>...</DIV>PCI-E =
>>>man. It's a=20
>>> no go for Paris and UAD-1 hardware, I think.<BR><BR>"Aaron Allen" =
>>><<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
>>>wrote in=20
>>> message<BR><A=20
>>> href=3D"news:43fd3efc$1@linux">news:43fd3efc$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>OH man.=20
>>> Deej will have to have this or he'll......<BR>>=20
>>> AA<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Mark McCurdy" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:mark@mccurdy.net">mark@mccurdy.net</A>> wrote in=20
>>> message<BR><A=20
>>> href=3D"news:43fccd92$1@linux">news:43fccd92$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
>>>
>>>><A=20
>>>
>>> =
>>>href=3D"http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3D936">http://www.da=
>>>ilytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3D936</A><BR>>=20
>>> ><BR>><BR>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
>>>
>>>
>>> Non-electronic voting systems are usually used fraudulently in ham fisted
> ways like taking sacks of Joe Kennedy's cash to West Virginia to buy it
for
> his boy.
.............not to mention Uncle Sam (Giancana) giving his fellow mobster's
son a push in the right direction in Illinois........and the dead have
participated in a few elections in south Texas......and were fond of LBJ
IIRC.
;o).
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43fde748$1@linux...
>
> Bruce Schneir has written about this extensively. Both electronic and
non-elect
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lank">http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>
>Agreed that it should be orf universal concern. However, thad's absolutely
correct about the historical aspect and the historical aspect is definitely
partisan.
"justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote in message
news:43fdfbbc$1@linux...
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43fde748$1@linux...
>
> > BTW - Democrat bellyaching about voter fraud rings rather hollow to one
> > with
> > a solid understanding of US electoral history. Capitol D Democratic
> > political
> > machines all over the East Coast and in Chicago and Ohio regularly
> > brokered
> > presidential elections with deeply questionable tactics. The current
> > Republican
> > administrations are using similar tactics to those they suffered for
years
> > as the minority party. Payback's a bitch.
>
> Does anyone know the term for making a partisan issue out of an issue that
> should be of universal concern?
>
>"And why don't the goalies wear padding?"...no lifting in curling.
"I think you have it backwards."...you've been taking to my wife
haven't you.
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:25:05 -0700, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
wrote:
>I didn't know you could body check in curling. And why don't the goalies
>wear padding?
>
>And really, how bad could a 42lb piece of rock hurt sliding 0.01 miles an
>hour on ice? ;-)
>
>I think you have it backwards. Hockey is curly divided by pi, with the
>bristles removed from the brushes.
>
>On 2/23/06 2:47 AM, in article ts0rv1hh4fgdl0l50m8g650e5sagif0n4a@4ax.com,
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ever been hit with a big ass piece of rock mister??? huh huh huh???
>> curling is hockey times 10...no make that a bajillion!
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:22:46 -0700, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently tomorrow night, "Canada clashes with Norway in curling".
>>>
>>> Ummm...I'm not a curling expert, but have seen it in the Olympics
>>> before...shouldn't that be something like "Canada bumps into Norway in
>>> curling"?
>>>
>>> Or maybe "Norway brushes with Canada", or "Canada slides and collides with
>>> Norway"?
>>>
>>> Maybe the announcer has never seen curling. Seems to me "clashing" would be
>>> the one move guaranteed to lose the match.
>>>
>>> DT
>>if you see any thai...errr...walking sticks pick me up one for my bug
collection...thanks
On 24 Feb 2006 04:19:25 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Just FYI, since some people here are kind of internet buddies, I'm taking
>two weeks vacation. One in Thailand and one in Japan. Both hangning out with
>a good friend who has been teaching English in Osaka for eight years. I'm
>going to try to do a blog/picture thing on my gmail account and I'll post
>the link here. Should be a hoot.
>
>TCBspeaking of historical aspects... this goes back to your earlier posts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43fe0b8d@linux...
> Agreed that it should be orf universal concern. However, thad's absolutely
> correct about the historical aspect and the historical aspect is
> definitely
> partisan.
>
> "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote in message
> news:43fdfbbc$1@linux...
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43fde748$1@linux...
>>
>> > BTW - Democrat bellyaching about voter fraud rings rather hollow to one
>> > with
>> > a solid understanding of US electoral history. Capitol D Democratic
>> > political
>> > machines all over the East Coast and in Chicago and Ohio regularly
>> > brokered
>> > presidential elections with deeply questionable tactics. The current
>> > Republican
>> > administrations are using similar tactics to those they suffered for
> years
>> > as the minority party. Payback's a bitch.
>>
>> Does anyone know the term for making a partisan issue out of an issue
>> that
>> should be of universal concern?
>>
>>
>
>When and where in Thailand? I've been a couple times. Good times. Might
be there second week of April. If I don't make it, would love to live
vicariously through the blog.
Kent
" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43fdee9d$1@linux...
>
> Just FYI, since some people here are kind of internet buddies, I'm taking
> two weeks vacation. One in Thailand and one in Japan. Both hangning out
with
> a good friend who has been teaching English in Osaka for eight years. I'm
> going to try to do a blog/picture thing on my gmail account and I'll post
> the link here. Should be a hoot.
>
> TCBjustcron wrote:
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43fde748$1@linux...
>
>
>
>>BTW - Democrat bellyaching about voter fraud rings rather hollow to one
>>with
>>a solid understanding of US electoral history. Capitol D Democratic
>>political
>>machines all over the East Coast and in Chicago and Ohio regularly
>>brokered
>>presidential elections with deeply questionable tactics. The current
>>Republican
>>administrations are using similar tactics to those they suffered for years
>>as the minority party. Payback's a bitch.
>>
>>
>
>Does anyone know the term for making a partisan issue out of an issue that
>should be of universal concern?
>
>
>
>
I believe it's called politics as usual.....
MikeGoing to be doing a 1 man show here pretty quick, and the PAS looks made for
that kind of thing. Anybody have any experience with it?
KentNo highs? No lows? Must be Bose!
;-)
David.
Kent wrote:
> Going to be doing a 1 man show here pretty quick, and the PAS looks made for
> that kind of thing. Anybody have any experience with it?
>
> Kent
>
>I found that any Waves newer than 3.2 can crash PARIS
when switching submixes from virtual to card and sometimes
on project startup. More when there is many plugins...
BBE sonic maximizer DX is the same story...
VST works fine.
.....and on 98 or ME everything works fine... (even Waves 5.0)
I stuck on 3.2 DX on Win XP.
Cheers.
Suad
"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43f8f64a@linux...
> I had a case of the pops with 3.5 as well. Did the workarounds, then
worked
> back around to 3.0.
>
> Kent
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43f8989e@linux...
> > Hi all
> >
> > Got an upgrade to Waves 3.5 and many of the plugs I used in 3.0 are now
> > stereo plugs in 3.5
> >
> > Does the stereo plug use more HP than it's mono counterpart?
> >
> > And if so is there a way to copy user settings from a stereo plug to a
> mono
> > version of the same plug
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
>
>I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it seems a
lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at the Waves
Q-Clone thing.'
If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the XP environment?
Thanks for any help.I had a computer meltdown with my Paris machine that ran flawlessly for 3+
years on WinMe. I started out building another Me machine, but eventually
realized that I should take this as an opportunity to move forward and
switched to XP and never looked back. Two thumbs-up from me.
RZ
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:43fe2075$1@linux...
>
> I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it seems a
> lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at the
> Waves
> Q-Clone thing.'
>
> If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the XP
> environment?
>
> Thanks for any help.http://www.parisfaqs.com/
There is a link at the bottom of the "PC Specific Stuff" section.
David.
Gary Flanigan wrote:
> I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it seems a
> lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at the Waves
> Q-Clone thing.'
>
> If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the XP environment?
>
> Thanks for any help.Darwin moves officially from comatose and brain damaged to dead
http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200602/apple.html
Gotta love those BSD licenses, I just hop the FSF keeps on their ass about
GPL'd code.
Compare this to IBM's Eclipse project (www.eclipse.org) which went from 'nobody
would touch it' to 'moving along really, really nicely' once the code ownership/copyright
was put outside of IBM (in a non-profit foundation) and released under a
truly free license.
TCB"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Just aim away from the server! And never use sugar in the coffee....
It's alright. The morning cuppa usually happens some 10km East of the server.
Unlikely to hit it at that distance.
The biggest risk to the server is when I make a curry. Don't ask. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.Just make sure there is no open flame around and you'll be fine! ;-)
David.
Kim wrote:
> "Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Just aim away from the server! And never use sugar in the coffee....
>
>
> It's alright. The morning cuppa usually happens some 10km East of the server.
> Unlikely to hit it at that distance.
>
> The biggest risk to the server is when I make a curry. Don't ask. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Do you think that an entity with so little native intelligence that they
cannot function on a level sufficient to allow them to cast a ballot
for/against something should be allowed a voice in determining the future
government of this country? Sorry, but people who have been legally
adjudicated non-compos-mentis are not allowed to vote. Unfortunately, there
are many around who are non-compos-mentis, but have not been legally so
adjudicated. However, by their obvious inablilty to function on a competent
level, they self-adjudicate, so to speak.
My comments have nothing to do with race. I do have reservations about
Darwin Award candidates having a hand in determining my future. If that
makes me a Eugenicist in your eyes, then so be it.
All I'm saying is that if you can't get it together to get something so
simple right the first time, then you don't have the wherewithall to be a
part of the decision making process.
Deej
"justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote in message news:43fe1165@linux...
> speaking of historical aspects... this goes back to your earlier posts:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43fe0b8d@linux...
> > Agreed that it should be orf universal concern. However, thad's
absolutely
> > correct about the historical aspect and the historical aspect is
> > definitely
> > partisan.
> >
> > "justcron" <paris@hydrorecords.com> wrote in message
> > news:43fdfbbc$1@linux...
> >>
> >> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43fde748$1@linux...
> >>
> >> > BTW - Democrat bellyaching about voter fraud rings rather hollow to
one
> >> > with
> >> > a solid understanding of US electoral history. Capitol D Democratic
> >> > political
> >> > machines all over the East Coast and in Chicago and Ohio regularly
> >> > brokered
> >> > presidential elections with deeply questionable tactics. The current
> >> > Republican
> >> > administrations are using similar tactics to those they suffered for
> > years
> >> > as the minority party. Payback's a bitch.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know the term for making a partisan issue out of an issue
> >> that
> >> should be of universal concern?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>I heard them recently at a songwriters expo. Get a Mackie PA. You'll be
doing yourself and your audience a favor.
"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fe177a@linux...
> Going to be doing a 1 man show here pretty quick, and the PAS looks made
for
> that kind of thing. Anybody have any experience with it?
>
> Kent
>
>Good point, cron.
What history shows is that if people can cheat, they will. Doesn't
matter the political party. There are plenty of examples to establish
the problem.
But what's happening now is the creation of pervasive computer-based
systems that offer the following irresistable temptation: Cheating that
is potentially easy, quick, undetectable and coast to coast.
For every election.
Dead men voting is child's play compared to this.
I don't care what your political leanings are, if you believe in
representative government this is a DISASTER.
Here's another web site:
http://www.votetrustusa.org/
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
justcron wrote:
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43fde748$1@linux...
>
>> BTW - Democrat bellyaching about voter fraud rings rather hollow to one
>> with
>> a solid understanding of US electoral history. Capitol D Democratic
>> political
>> machines all over the East Coast and in Chicago and Ohio regularly
>> brokered
>> presidential elections with deeply questionable tactics. The current
>> Republican
>> administrations are using similar tactics to those they suffered for years
>> as the minority party. Payback's a bitch.
>
> Does anyone know the term for making a partisan issue out of an issue that
> should be of universal concern?
>
>Well, my ears are finally up to speed again so I'm back at work. I'm mixing
tonight, tomorrow and Saturday nights, then I'm out of town until the 1st.
the project is due out of here by the 8th. I think I can pull it off,
especially since the producer will be back tomorrow.
One thing is becoming really clear about this hybrid mixing, ie-Cubase
streaming into Paris......it's amazingly flexible. For instance, I can apply
processing on bass tracks in SX and then further influence the way the
processor works by either really slamming it with the SX channel and then
attenuating it a bit with the Paris fader, or I can be much less aggressive
with the processor as relates to how hard I'm hitting it in SX and then
boost the level in Paris, and add or attenuate this further by using the EQ
makeup gain as well. It's almost like having too many gain
staging/processing options. Sheesh!
Also, I'm really starting to appreciate NoLimit on lead vox. You can wash a
vocal track in reverb and then use NoLimit to make it prominent in the mix
again without it sounding washed out. It's nothing new, but it's soooo
darned simple. Every time I do this I thank the Skunkworks guys for all the
hard work.
Back to work now.......So if I'm doing Pro Tools on a Mac at one studio and wanting to
use those files on my XP Paris rig whats the best way to move the
files.
I was hoping to use an external Firewire drive and go back and
forth which I assume would need a Mac OS read/write translator on
the PC.What is the best app for this.
Or is burning wav files to a cd/dvd the best way to go about
this?
Thanks,
PeteThanks for trying and also for letting us know how it went, Rohde. I'm glad
it's working for you!
All the best,
Mike
"Rohde Wakefield" <rohde @ iname.com> wrote:
>OK - did some more testing yesterday. Again, this is an AMD X2 3800+ dual
>core processor.
>
>With just /intaffinity, the transport would be locked up almost immediately.
>I could never use the C16 for anything.
>
>With /intaffinity and /onecpu (/intaffinity probably unnecessary), it works
>fine with no lockups.
>
>For me, this is acceptable as I can reboot and do my video editing work
with
>both cores engaged. I don't need more horsepower than one core for Paris.
>
>It seems like there was a way to force which processor was tasked to handle
>the interrupts and its also possible to set the application to just one
>processor. This may be another possibility that I'll look into later.
>
>-Rohde
>
>"Rohde Wakefield" <rohde @ iname.com> wrote in message news:...
>> Hi Mike.
>>
>> I ran into this flag a month ago but haven't had a chance to test it
>> during a session. I actually ran my last session (recording scratch tracks
>> of my wife) without the C16 - just forgot to hook it up and never took
the
>> time to shutdown PARIS once we got rolling.
>>
>> When I found the switch, I also tried another switch (/onecpu). I'm about
>> 80% sure one of these does the trick. That night I tried it and played
>> through a project, trying fast moves on the C-16 - didn't see the problems
>> I had before of the transport locking up.
>>
>> Hopefully someone using the system a bit more fulltime will have a chance
>> to try it out.
>>
>> -Rohde
>>
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <Report message to a moderator
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">animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Answers below-
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43feb3b7$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me see if I'm getting this...
> >>
> >> As I see it, from what you're saying, in this particular example,
you're
> >> flying the hot signals out of Cubase, cranked to the bejesus, and then
> >dropping
> >> the level in Paris. Hence, unless I'm missing something, your Cubase to
> >Paris
> >> link is capable of exceeding 0db, is that correct?
> >
> >Yep!
> >
> >At one point you said
> >> "It's 32 bit floating point at this stage so it wont clip", which is
fair
> >> in the Cubase app itself, but isn't your link between the DAWs simply
> some
> >> 24 bit integer ADAT links? Wouldn't they, therefore, clip?
> >
> >Nope! (and they're actually 20 bit)
> >
> >I would have thought
> >> they would have a threashold of 0db.
> >
> >Me too.
> >
> >> ...or are you using some other kind of link? I know you've posted this
> a
> >> million times, but I always get half way through and get a headache.
;o)
> >> I figure I'll just win the lottery and pay you to come over and set up
> a
> >> system for me. ;o)
> >>
> >> If you can get above 0db signals out of Cubase into Paris... well for
> >starters
> >> I would have thought Paris could only input 24 bit integers... but if
> >you
> >> can get louder than 0db into the channels of Paris, that in itself
opens
> >> up new possibilities because a normal Paris track overdrives at 0db. If
> >you
> >> can go louder than 0db then Paris gain staging is going to reach a
whole
> >> new level.
> >
> >I can clip Paris with a signal from Cubase SX if I don't attenuate it
with
> >the Paris fader. this may have something to do with Live Mix mode in
Paris.
> >I don't know, but I can receive this hot signal with the Paris channels
> set
> >to post fader and it seems to be attenuating the *hotter than 0 dBfs
signal.
> >I know it doesn't make any sense. Maybe I'm just missing something, but
> >there is a big red clip light on the transport of Cubase SX and it should
> be
> >making all kinds of racket.............but it's not.
> >
> >Here's an rough example of what I'm getting. The LF is a little hot on
this
> >one. I've tamed it a bit in the remix, but it's a good example of what
I'm
> >talking about. Cubase SX clip meter is bright red. Peak levels in Paris
> >were -1.875dB because I the Paris channel faders, attenuated the submix
> and
> >Globl faders and strapped NoLimit on the Global bus. After the bounce,
> I
> >just boosted it by 1.8dB inWavelab.......that it.
> >
>
> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Doug%20Joyce/Road%20To%20Par adise/paradise%
2
> >02-6-06.mp3
> >
> >I know it doesn't make any sense so maybe I'm thinking I'm doing
something
> >that's not really happening..........
> >
>Not here.
David.
Don Nafe wrote:
> Speaking of which, has anyone got two ADAT modules on a single MEC working
> with XP?
>
> DOn
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43fe75f0@linux...
>
>>If you need to interface with ADAT machines and/or are using multiple MECs
>>and wanting to use more than one ADAT card per MEC, you will not like
>>Paris
>>on XP. If ADAT compatibility and using multiple ADAT cards per MEC isn't
>>an
>>issue with you, Paris on XP is great, IMO.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
>>news:43fe2075$1@linux...
>>
>>>I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it seems a
>>>lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at the
>>
>>Waves
>>
>>>Q-Clone thing.'
>>>
>>>If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the XP
>>
>>environment?
>>
>>>Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
>
>Hi DJ,
I have my touch sensitive stuff working. 4 * 19" LCD vertical,
and 4 * 17" LCD touch senstive at 45 degree angle below them.
Only single touch at a time, but adjusting sliders, sweeping
frequencies on the EQs etc - this is the interface of the
future. Great fun manipulating the UAD stuff also.
Mic.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Me too.I'd like to have 4 x LCD's mounted in a desk, face up at an angle
>approximating the angle of a mixing board.
>
>"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43ff3c9e$1@linux...
>>
>> That's just friggin cool. I wanna see Paris run on it.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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Mic,
Are you doing this Mic? I've wanted this since the
Sony DMX R100 came out. What does it cost
for a touch sensitive screen? Do you need a pen
or can you do it with your fingers? Do your 17"s
mimic the 19"s?
Take a pic I have to see!!!
Tom
"Mic Cross" <crzymnmchl@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:43ff5634$1@linux...
Hi DJ,
I have my touch sensitive stuff working. 4 * 19" LCD vertical,=20
and 4 * 17" LCD touch senstive at 45 degree angle below them.=20
Only single touch at a time, but adjusting sliders, sweeping=20
frequencies on the EQs etc - this is the interface of the=20
future. Great fun manipulating the UAD stuff also.
Mic.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Me too.I'd like to have 4 x LCD's mounted in a desk, face up at an =
angle
>approximating the angle of a mixing board.
>
>"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43ff3c9e$1@linux...
>>
>> That's just friggin cool. I wanna see Paris run on it.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Take a pic I have to =
see!!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Mic Cross" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:crzymnmchl@comcast.net">crzymnmchl@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43ff5634$1@linux">news:43ff5634$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
DJ,<BR><BR>I have my touch sensitive stuff working. 4 * 19" LCD =
vertical,=20
<BR>and 4 * 17" LCD touch senstive at 45 degree angle below them. =
<BR>Only=20
single touch at a time, but adjusting sliders, sweeping =
<BR>frequencies on the=20
EQs etc - this is the interface of the <BR> future. Great fun=20
manipulating the UAD stuff also.<BR><BR>Mic.<BR><BR><BR><BR>"DJ" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>Me too.I'd like to have 4 x LCD's mounted in a desk, =
face up at=20
an angle<BR>>approximating the angle of a mixing=20
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href=3D"mailto:pn@nospam.com">pn@nospam.com</A>> wrote in message =
<A=20
=
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R>>>=20
That's just friggin cool. I wanna see Paris run on=20
it.<BR>>><BR>>> "DJ" <<A=20
=
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_@animas.net</A>>=20
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><BR>>> =
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------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C6394A.3A772DD0--Hi Tom,
Yup have it all working - touch sensitive mirror the verticals -
have the verticals so I can sit back and see what is going on.
Can use finger or pen. I constructed my own screens .... I like
Dell LCDs (don't like Dell :-) ), so lurked on ebay for a good
deal and then bought Magic Touch embedded (not overlays). The
embedded fits right against the LCD screen after the bezel is
removed - this is much better than the overlays which go over
the bezel and leave a gap - this decreases accuracy. Multi -
touch would make this the perfect environment as it is so
intuitive using your fingers (did I say that? :-) ).
Gonna follow up on DJ's link.
Mic.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Mic,
>Are you doing this Mic? I've wanted this since the
>Sony DMX R100 came out. What does it cost
>for a touch sensitive screen? Do you need a pen
>or can you do it with your fingers? Do your 17"s
>mimic the 19"s?
>
>Take a pic I have to see!!!
>Tom
> "Mic Cross" <crzymnmchl@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:43ff5634$1@linux...
>
> Hi DJ,
>
> I have my touch sensitive stuff working. 4 * 19" LCD vertical,=20
> and 4 * 17" LCD touch senstive at 45 degree angle below them.=20
> Only single touch at a time, but adjusting sliders, sweeping=20
> frequencies on the EQs etc - this is the interface of the=20
> future. Great fun manipulating the UAD stuff also.
>
> Mic.
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Me too.I'd like to have 4 x LCD's mounted in a desk, face up at an =
>angle
> >approximating the angle of a mixing board.
> >
> >"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote in message news:43ff3c9e$1@linux...
> >>
> >> That's just friggin cool. I wanna see Paris run on it.
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mic,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you doing this Mic? I've =
>wanted this=20
>since the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sony DMX R100 came out. What does =
>it=20
>cost</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for a touch sensitive screen? Do =
>you need a=20
>pen</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or can you do it with your =
>fingers? Do your=20
>17"s</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mimic the 19"s?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Take a pic I have to =
>see!!!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Mic Cross" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:crzymnmchl@comcast.net">crzymnmchl@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:43ff5634$1@linux">news:43ff5634$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Hi=20
> DJ,<BR><BR>I have my touch sensitive stuff working. 4 * 19" LCD =
>vertical,=20
> <BR>and 4 * 17" LCD touch senstive at 45 degree angle below them. =
><BR>Only=20
> single touch at a time, but adjusting sliders, sweeping =
><BR>frequencies on the=20
> EQs etc - this is the interface of the <BR> future. Great fun=20
> manipulating the UAD stuff also.<BR><BR>Mic.<BR><BR><BR><BR>"DJ" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>Me too.I'd like to have 4 x LCD's mounted in a desk, =
>face up at=20
> an angle<BR>>approximating the angle of a mixing=20
> board.<BR>><BR>>"Paul" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:pn@nospam.com">pn@nospam.com</A>> wrote in message =
><A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:43ff3c9e$1@linux">news:43ff3c9e$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B=
>R>>>=20
> That's just friggin cool. I wanna see Paris run on=20
> it.<BR>>><BR>>> "DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>>> >http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/<BR>>> =
>
> ><BR>>> =
>><BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>One thing is becoming really clear about this hybrid mixing, ie-Cubase
>>streaming into Paris......it's amazingly flexible. For instance, I can
apply
>>processing on bass tracks in SX and then further influence the way the
>>processor works by either really slamming it with the SX channel and then
>>attenuating it a bit with the Paris fader, or I can be much less aggressive
>>with the processor as relates to how hard I'm hitting it in SX and then
>>boost the level in Paris, and add or attenuate this further by using the
>EQ
>>makeup gain as well. It's almost like having too many gain
>>staging/processing options. Sheesh!
>
>
>Dee
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I'd say they're worth trying to see how
they work for you.
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
Don Nafe wrote:
> Shouldn't that post have read - Bose POS
>
> I actually had a sound gig with four 802's a side...wasn't too bad, lows
> were a little light but it had fairly good clarity and the band was doing
> "hair metal" material
>
> Don
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43fe529c@linux...
>> I heard them recently at a songwriters expo. Get a Mackie PA. You'll be
>> doing yourself and your audience a favor.
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fe177a@linux...
>>> Going to be doing a 1 man show here pretty quick, and the PAS looks made
>> for
>>> that kind of thing. Anybody have any experience with it?
>>>
>>> Kent
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Just did a little more testing.
With just /intaffinity set, the system goes considerably longer if the
affinity for the Paris process is set to the last processor. However, I
would eventually get a locked transport.
Seems /onecpu is the way to go (/intaffinity tossed in for good measure).
-Rohde
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
news:43fe6fe4$1@linux...
>
> Thanks for trying and also for letting us know how it went, Rohde. I'm
> glad
> it's working for you!
>
> All the best,
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Rohde Wakefield" <rohde @ iname.com> wrote:
>>OK - did some more testing yesterday. Again, this is an AMD X2 3800+ dual
>
>>core processor.
>>
>>With just /intaffinity, the transport would be locked up almost
>>immediately.
>
>>I could never use the C16 for anything.
>>
>>With /intaffinity and /onecpu (/intaffinity probably unnecessary), it
>>works
>
>>fine with no lockups.
>>
>>For me, this is acceptable as I can reboot and do my video editing work
> with
>>both cores engaged. I don't need more horsepower than one core for Paris.
>>
>>It seems like there was a way to force which processor was tasked to
>>handle
>
>>the interrupts and its also possible to set the application to just one
>
>>processor. This may be another possibility that I'll look into later.
>>
>>-Rohde
>>
>>"Rohde Wakefield" <rohde @ iname.com> wrote in message news:...
>>> Hi Mike.
>>>
>>> I ran into this flag a month ago but haven't had a chance to test it
>>> during a session. I actually ran my last session (recording scratch
>>> tracks
>
>>> of my wife) without the C16 - just forgot to hook it up and never took
> the
>>> time to shutdown PARIS once we got rolling.
>>>
>>> When I found the switch, I also tried another switch (/onecpu). I'm
>>> about
>
>>> 80% sure one of these does the trick. That night I tried it and played
>
>>> through a project, trying fast moves on the C-16 - didn't see the
>>> problems
>
>>> I had before of the transport locking up.
>>>
>>> Hopefully someone using the system a bit more fulltime will have a
>>> chance
>
>>> to try it out.
>>>
>>> -Rohde
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mike.....> wrote in message news:43f64525$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone tried using the "/INTAFFINITY" switch in the boot.ini file
> to
>>>> ressolve
>>>> the c16 issues with Windows XP?
>>>>
>>>> The switch tells Windows to rout all interupt requests through one CPU,
>
>>>> instead
>>>> of spreading them out over two. It definitly solves some driver
>>>> problems
>>>> in dual CPU systems.
>>>>
>>>> I ran accross it trying to resolve a problem with a USB card on my Dual
>
>>>> Athlon.
>>>> I don't have any c16s to try it with, but my testing seems to show that
>>>> it puts about 10% more load on the highest numbered CPU, which is a
>>>> small
>>>> price to pay if it solves a driver issue, especially in a dual core or
>
>>>> cpu
>>>> situation.
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering....
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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mine but it=20
wasn't easy as I recall. Brian did too. I think it has to do with
the order that you install the cards from the initial install among
other things. DJ almost did I think.
Tom
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
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Not here.
David.
Don Nafe wrote:
> Speaking of which, has anyone got two ADAT modules on a single MEC =
working=20
> with XP?
>=20
> DOn
>=20
>=20
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message=20
> news:43fe75f0@linux...
>=20
>>If you need to interface with ADAT machines and/or are using =
multiple MECs
>>and wanting to use more than one ADAT card per MEC, you will not =
like=20
>>Paris
>>on XP. If ADAT compatibility and using multiple ADAT cards per MEC =
isn't=20
>>an
>>issue with you, Paris on XP is great, IMO.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
>>news:43fe2075$1@linux...
>>
>>>I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it =
seems a
>>>lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at =
the
>>
>>Waves
>>
>>>Q-Clone thing.'
>>>
>>>If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the =
XP
>>
>>environment?
>>
>>>Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
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here.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Don Nafe wrote:<BR><BR>> Speaking of =
which, has=20
anyone got two ADAT modules on a single MEC working <BR>> with =
XP?<BR>>=20
<BR>> DOn<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "DJ" <<A=20
=
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_@animas.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <BR>> <A=20
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<BR>>>If=20
you need to interface with ADAT machines and/or are using multiple=20
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you will=20
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using=20
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you,=20
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=
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wrote in=20
=
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guess=20
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a<BR>>>>lot of new software runs only on XP. In =
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6396D.5844CC00-->only different
> bugs. :)
Are there that many different bugs on XP? I've learnt to deal with the bugs
on ME but new/different ones would be a pain in the (rimes with
class)....!!!
2EDS/MEC/442 /1ADAT/8in/8out on ME
Rob
> Actually it runs quite good. You should make sure that the machine you
> are using now is able to run though.
>
> Looks at www.musicxp.net for great guide to installed and tweaking XP.
> Also look at the http://www.parisfaqs.com/ for the right and only way to
> install Paris on XP.
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Gary Flanigan wrote:
> > I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it seems
a
> > lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at the
Waves
> > Q-Clone thing.'
> >
> > If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the XP
environment?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762I was successful with 2 x ADAT cards in the MEC attached to card A and 1 x
ADAT module in my two other MECs. Never could get more than tht to work.
Deej
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43ff0953@linux...
> Speaking of which, has anyone got two ADAT modules on a single MEC working
> with XP?
>
> DOn
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43fe75f0@linux...
> > If you need to interface with ADAT machines and/or are using multiple
MECs
> > and wanting to use more than one ADAT card per MEC, you will not like
> > Paris
> > on XP. If ADAT compatibility and using multiple ADAT cards per MEC isn't
> > an
> > issue with you, Paris on XP is great, IMO.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
> > news:43fe2075$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it seems
a
> >> lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at the
> > Waves
> >> Q-Clone thing.'
> >>
> >> If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the XP
> > environment?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
>
>Kent
I am a jazz trumpet player and I bought and have one and I absolutly LOVE
it! I have played live in many, situations, through all kinds of systems,
and have NEVER sounded so natural and good as with this system. It also
can integrate into a standard system, because I did a concert of my music
with it mixed in with a traditional system of EV speakers and it worked great.
I have also used it for some of my friends for vocal stuff, and they all
just were very surprised and pleased with the results. If you are in a heavy
rock band, it may not be for you, but if you are looking for the most natural
sound you can get, try one. I agree that Bose hi fi systems are not desireable,
but this is entirely different. These people did their homework. Now I
am sure there are people who have had problems with them, and NOTHING is
right for EVERYONE, but I love mine. It was one of the best investments
I ever made in regards to audio, including my precious Paris! When I first
played through it in the store, with my trumpet, I heard my trumpet louder,
but I had to ask if it was even on. It reproduced my horn so clearly, I
just wasn't sure. I have used it in hlarge halls, and was amazed at how
the sound filled every section of the hall evenely and with the same volume.
I would go to a local Guitar Center store if one is near you, to try them
in person. They also have a good return policy if they don't work for you.
Lou Guarino
www.enchantedvibrations.comLightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety switch
has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the safety
switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if I
lose power altogether soon though.
Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be lucky
if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
Cheers,
Kim.Well, I found what tripped the safety switch. A small leak has emerged right
near, would you beleive, the NG server, and a few drops have water have landed
in the NG server monitor, causing a short which has then tripped the safety
switch.
The server itself looks dry though. I think we're safe. I have a million
15 inch monitors if that one doesn't work when it dries out...
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>
>After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety switch
>has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
safety
>switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
>and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if I
>lose power altogether soon though.
>
>Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
>has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
>the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be lucky
>if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,
computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and=20
no information to start with.
Problem #1:
After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they
just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that made=20
no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant data=20
was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all midi=20
connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was being seen. =20
Cubase wasn't open. I have not been beaten.
I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the=20
old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I thought.=20
Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded what=20
I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were for the com =
port.
Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I bring
them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
the exact same drivers that were already in there for the 8x8. Well
the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, the
directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows should=20
recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was recognized was the=20
smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two computers to
find out that the green FastLane smoked!
This is the final straw. =20
Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB=20
line somehow. =20
I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8=20
that works and merges without Fn drivers.
What is there?
The "sick of it all" guy,
Tom
PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
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changed. FM=20
Alive </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>was =
getting long=20
sysex messages that made </FONT></DIV>
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sense. It would=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>work at =
editing the=20
synths but irrelevant data </FONT></DIV>
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constantly being=20
seen to the program. </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
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from the Motu=20
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alone and=20
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reinstall my=20
Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the </FONT></DIV>
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way. =20
Midi in/out of Cubase through</FONT></DIV>
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one=20
input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed</FONT></DIV>
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ins/outs of hardware=20
synths. Piece of cake so I thought. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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dig=20
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drivers for the=20
FastLane again... I loaded what </FONT></DIV>
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</FONT><FONT=20
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ones but they=20
weren't. They were for the com port.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Okay, so I =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>download the newest ones =
from Motu's=20
site. I bring</FONT></DIV>
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computer to=20
realize minus Clockworks they are</FONT></DIV>
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same drivers that=20
were already in there for the 8x8. Well</FONT></DIV>
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wasn't working=20
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'reinstall' them just=20
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are to plug in=20
the device (USB cable) and Windows should </FONT></DIV>
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new=20
hardware. The only thing that was recognized was the </FONT></DIV>
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color=3D#800000><FONT=20
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two=20
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color=3D#800000>find out that=20
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final=20
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Motu are=20
flakey as hell.</FONT></DIV>
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sent a higher=20
than normal voltage down the USB </FONT></DIV>
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somehow. =20
</FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I now need a =
new small=20
in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that works =
</FONT><FONT=20
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drivers.</FONT></DIV>
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there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>The "sick of =
it all"=20
guy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>PS Midi is still =
cool. Motu=20
is not.</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C639A2.497976A0--Soooo.....I guess we need to buy you a new house?
;O)
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ffe26f@linux...
>
>
> Well, I found what tripped the safety switch. A small leak has emerged
right
> near, would you beleive, the NG server, and a few drops have water have
landed
> in the NG server monitor, causing a short which has then tripped the
safety
> switch.
>
> The server itself looks dry though. I think we're safe. I have a million
> 15 inch monitors if that one doesn't work when it dries out...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
> >
> >After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
switch
> >has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
> safety
> >switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
> >and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if I
> >lose power altogether soon though.
> >
> >Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
> >has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
> >the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
lucky
> >if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kim.
>Well, it's like I was saying with the UPS, it works out much cheaper if we
just all chip in,than if I have to pay for the whole thing. See, at last
roll call a year or whatever back we got well over a hundred replies. So
if we can get 100 people to just put in a meazley $5000 each... ;o)
I've got a Paypal account!! :o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Soooo.....I guess we need to buy you a new house?
>
>;O)
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ffe26f@linux...
>>
>>
>> Well, I found what tripped the safety switch. A small leak has emerged
>right
>> near, would you beleive, the NG server, and a few drops have water have
>landed
>> in the NG server monitor, causing a short which has then tripped the
>safety
>> switch.
>>
>> The server itself looks dry though. I think we're safe. I have a million
>> 15 inch monitors if that one doesn't work when it dries out...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>> >
>> >After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
>switch
>> >has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
>> safety
>> >switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
>> >and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if
I
>> >lose power altogether soon though.
>> >
>> >Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
>> >has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
>> >the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
>lucky
>> >if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Kim.
>>
>
>Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
SteveI beleive they are skipping Paris 4 altogether and going straight to Paris 5
to make up for lost time.
"Steve" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:43fff73a$1@linux...
>
> Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
> SteveDude,
It's already been out for awhile (3rd edition even)..
http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-07645 76305.html
Cheers,
TC
Steve wrote:
> Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
> Steve"Steve" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
>Steve
Steve-
i'm tempted to say, yeah, it's out, but there's no info on it, 'cause it
won't record any info... but enought jokin.
those other guys are a' pullin' yer leg. Ain't no Paris 4 now, ain't gonna
be no Paris 4 later.
Them other guys may have been jokin' with you 'cause they thought you was
me.
Give guys named Steve a break, guys....!
-steve the artguyi had to switch to m-audio when i couldn't get my M24 controller to
work.
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:27:40 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
>versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
>than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,
>computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
>no information to start with.
>
>Problem #1:
>After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
>to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
>and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
>I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
>to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they
>just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that made
>no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant data
>was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all midi
>connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was being seen.
>Cubase wasn't open. I have not been beaten.
>
>I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
>as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
>the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
>old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
>Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
>to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I thought.
>
> Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded what
>I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were for the com port.
>Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I bring
>them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
>the exact same drivers that were already in there for the 8x8. Well
>the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
>then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, the
>directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows should
>recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was recognized was the
>smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two computers to
>find out that the green FastLane smoked!
>This is the final straw.
>
>Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
>I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB
>line somehow.
>
>I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8
>that works and merges without Fn drivers.
>What is there?
>
>The "sick of it all" guy,
>Tom
>
>PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
>i'll just transfer by pp balance over to you to get the ball
rolling...just name a room after me.
the footballhead suite
On 25 Feb 2006 16:53:16 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Well, it's like I was saying with the UPS, it works out much cheaper if we
>just all chip in,than if I have to pay for the whole thing. See, at last
>roll call a year or whatever back we got well over a hundred replies. So
>if we can get 100 people to just put in a meazley $5000 each... ;o)
>
>I've got a Paypal account!! :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Soooo.....I guess we need to buy you a new house?
>>
>>;O)
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ffe26f@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I found what tripped the safety switch. A small leak has emerged
>>right
>>> near, would you beleive, the NG server, and a few drops have water have
>>landed
>>> in the NG server monitor, causing a short which has then tripped the
>>safety
>>> switch.
>>>
>>> The server itself looks dry though. I think we're safe. I have a million
>>> 15 inch monitors if that one doesn't work when it dries out...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>>> >
>>> >After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
>>switch
>>> >has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
>>> safety
>>> >switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
>>> >and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if
>I
>>> >lose power altogether soon though.
>>> >
>>> >Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
>>> >has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
>>> >the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
>>lucky
>>> >if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Kim.
>>>
>>
>>$5000 !!!!!
AU!!!!!
Damn that's cheap!!!!
Sign Deej up!!!!!
Don
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fff0cc$1@linux...
>
>
> Well, it's like I was saying with the UPS, it works out much cheaper if we
> just all chip in,than if I have to pay for the whole thing. See, at last
> roll call a year or whatever back we got well over a hundred replies. So
> if we can get 100 people to just put in a meazley $5000 each... ;o)
>
> I've got a Paypal account!! :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Soooo.....I guess we need to buy you a new house?
>>
>>;O)
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43ffe26f@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I found what tripped the safety switch. A small leak has emerged
>>right
>>> near, would you beleive, the NG server, and a few drops have water have
>>landed
>>> in the NG server monitor, causing a short which has then tripped the
>>safety
>>> switch.
>>>
>>> The server itself looks dry though. I think we're safe. I have a million
>>> 15 inch monitors if that one doesn't work when it dries out...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>>> >
>>> >After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
>>switch
>>> >has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
>>> safety
>>> >switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another
>>> >socket
>>> >and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if
> I
>>> >lose power altogether soon though.
>>> >
>>> >Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if
>>> >water
>>> >has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right.
>>> >Between
>>> >the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
>>lucky
>>> >if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Kim.
>>>
>>
>>
>IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!Hi all
I have a couple of projects coming up that are going to be using huge track
counts in the beginning stages and although virtual tracks are nice they
really are a PITA.
So the question is - for a four EDS Card set up is their a MB / CPU
combination out there that works with paris that would allow the addition of
a UAD1 card (making five slots total) or should I start looking at a magma
chassis for this setup?
DonOh and while I'm asking...best vide
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it has the most
user upgradeable parts. You can replace the noisy fans and power supply
with better quality ones very easily. YOu can find them cheap on E bay.
Chris
Don Nafe wrote:
> Oh and while I'm asking...best video card(s) for a four monitor setup
>
> DOn
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44005187@linux...
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>I have a couple of projects coming up that are going to be using huge
>>track counts in the beginning stages and although virtual tracks are nice
>>they really are a PITA.
>>
>>So the question is - for a four EDS Card set up is their a MB / CPU
>>combination out there that works with paris that would allow the addition
>>of a UAD1 card (making five slots total) or should I start looking at a
>>magma chassis for this setup?
>>
>>
>>Don
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Chris Ludwig
ADK
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(859) 635-5762with paris!!!?
rick wrote:
> IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
>
>
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Chris Ludwig
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chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
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(859) 635-5762Hi Tom,
Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has always worked for
me as well as the Edirol stuff.
Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a mention
which it is you have.
Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on board USB ports!!
Chris
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
> versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
> than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,
> computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
> no information to start with.
>
> Problem #1:
> After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
> to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
> and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
> I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
> to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they
> just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that made
> no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant data
> was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all midi
> connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was being seen.
> Cubase wasn't open. I have not been beaten.
>
> I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
> as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
> the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I thought.
>
> Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded what
> I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were for the com port.
> Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I bring
> them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
> the exact same drivers that were already in there for the 8x8. Well
> the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
> then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, the
> directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows should
> recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was recognized was the
> smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two computers to
> find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> This is the final straw.
>
> Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB
> line somehow.
>
> I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8
> that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> What is there?
>
> The "sick of it all" guy,
> Tom
>
> PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
>
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Chris Ludwig
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(859) 635-5762Oh,
Sorry, Steve actually meant "4", and not "for"..
Damn internet lingo has me so confused sometimes :)
L8R,
TC
steve the artguy wrote:
> "Steve" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
>>Steve
>
>
> Steve-
>
> i'm tempted to say, yeah, it's out, but there's no info on it, 'cause it
> won't record any info... but enought jokin.
>
> those other guys are a' pullin' yer leg. Ain't no Paris 4 now, ain't gonna
> be no Paris 4 later.
>
> Them other guys may have been jokin' with you 'cause they thought you was
> me.
>
> Give guys named Steve a break, guys....!
>
> -steve the artguyThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Kim I found youa new house!!!
Notice on the top left corner its got wireless!!
Kim wrote:
> Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>
> After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety switch
> has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the safety
> switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
> and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if I
> lose power altogether soon though.
>
> Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
> has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
> the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be lucky
> if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
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Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
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Don
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:440084e3@linux...
> Hi Don,
> I would get a magma no matter what setup you use if you are doing a 4 card
> system.
> If you can still find them the Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 (NForce 3 chipset)
> and the ASUS A8V (not deluxe) (VIA 800 chipset).
> They are all AGP with 5 PCI slots. YOu would have to do one of those
> Matrox AGP/PCI video card combos methods to get 4 monitors. Honestly I
> would say stick with 3 monitors using the Matrox P750. Allot less
> variables and resource issues going on that way.
> I would avoid dual core cpus unless you are doing Cubase VST stuff on the
> same machine. The Athlon 64 4000+ or one of the FX series would be the
> best for number crunching a bunch of Waves plug ins. YOu also will reduce
> issues with the UAD and Paris not having a dual CPU setup.
>
> For more current motherboard with PCI-E the best one I've tried is the
> ASUS A8R-MVP but like all new board they have at most 3 PCI slots.
> Try to avoid Nforce 4 chipsets if you are using UAD and TC power core. The
> N4 chipset in general kicks ass if you are doing native only.
>
> Also try to avoid boards with to many convenient on board stuff. You will
> probably have to disable them anyways. Silicon Image SATA controller work
> nice on DAWS but the Promise SATA suck ass just disable from the get go.
> Most all the on board nics work great.
>
>
> MOst all the new board do behave as soon as you start to put more than 3
> PCI cards int he machine. Trying to put in 4 EDS cards would be hit or
> miss. The Magma 13 slot is the best one to get because it has the most
> user upgradeable parts. You can replace the noisy fans and power supply
> with better quality ones very easily. YOu can find them cheap on E bay.
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> Oh and while I'm asking...best video card(s) for a four monitor setup
>>
>> DOn
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44005187@linux...
>>
>>>Hi all
>>>
>>>I have a couple of projects coming up that are going to be using huge
>>>track counts in the beginning stages and although virtual tracks are nice
>>>they really are a PITA.
>>>
>>>So the question is - for a four EDS Card set up is their a MB / CPU
>>>combination out there that works with paris that would allow the addition
>>>of a UAD1 card (making five slots total) or should I start looking at a
>>>magma chassis for this setup?
>>>
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762And a circle drive!
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:440088dc@linux...
> Kim I found youa new house!!!
> Notice on the top left corner its got wireless!!
>
>
>
>
> Kim wrote:
>
> > Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
> >
> > After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
switch
> > has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
safety
> > switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another
socket
> > and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if I
> > lose power altogether soon though.
> >
> > Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
> > has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
> > the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
lucky
> > if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------
----Do tell Rick..We are dying to know..
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
>
>so it's not just your left and right hands...i feel much better
now...thanks.
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:34:31 -0800, TC
<tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>Oh,
>
>Sorry, Steve actually meant "4", and not "for"..
>
>Damn internet lingo has me so confused sometimes :)
>
>L8R,
>
>TC
>
>
>steve the artguy wrote:
>> "Steve" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
>>>Steve
>>
>>
>> Steve-
>>
>> i'm tempted to say, yeah, it's out, but there's no info on it, 'cause it
>> won't record any info... but enought jokin.
>>
>> those other guys are a' pullin' yer leg. Ain't no Paris 4 now, ain't gonna
>> be no Paris 4 later.
>>
>> Them other guys may have been jokin' with you 'cause they thought you was
>> me.
>>
>> Give guys named Steve a break, guys....!
>>
>> -steve the artguyhell, for me with anything. no it's with dp, pt and logic. what used
to occupy 60% plus on my old POS now takes 5% with half the ram. but
i may get back into recording if the next few days of testing (and
increasing the ram to 6 gbs) will let me know what;s up. so far, i'm
pretty encouraged.
dual core 2.3, w/10.4.5 and logic pro 7.2
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:20:09 -0500, Chris Ludwig
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>with paris!!!?
>
>
>rick wrote:
>
>> IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
>>
>>it's run 16 hrs. without crashing on a 45 track 52 plugins with 6
impulse response verbs 3 minute loop.
On 26 Feb 2006 04:55:10 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>
>Do tell Rick..We are dying to know..
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
>>
>>it does seem to work with the HUI.
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:29:52 -0500, Chris Ludwig
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has always worked for
>me as well as the Edirol stuff.
>Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a mention
>which it is you have.
>Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on board USB ports!!
>
>Chris
>
>Tom Bruhl wrote:
>
>> This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
>> versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
>> than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,
>> computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
>> no information to start with.
>>
>> Problem #1:
>> After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
>> to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
>> and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
>> I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
>> to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they
>> just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that made
>> no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant data
>> was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all midi
>> connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was being seen.
>> Cubase wasn't open. I have not been beaten.
>>
>> I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
>> as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
>> the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
>> old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
>> Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
>> to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I thought.
>>
>> Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded what
>> I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were for the com port.
>> Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I bring
>> them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
>> the exact same drivers that were already in there for the 8x8. Well
>> the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
>> then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, the
>> directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows should
>> recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was recognized was the
>> smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two computers to
>> find out that the green FastLane smoked!
>> This is the final straw.
>>
>> Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
>> I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB
>> line somehow.
>>
>> I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8
>> that works and merges without Fn drivers.
>> What is there?
>>
>> The "sick of it all" guy,
>> Tom
>>
>> PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I was successful with 2 x ADAT cards in the MEC attached to card A and 1
x
>ADAT module in my two other MECs. Never could get more than tht to work.
>
>Deej
>
DJ, I recall that you are using Mytek converters. Is this through the ADAT
I/O? Is the hit from 24 bit to 20 worth the better quality of the converters?
Thanks
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:43ff0953@linux...
>> Speaking of which, has anyone got two ADAT modules on a single MEC working
>> with XP?
>>
>> DOn
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:43fe75f0@linux...
>> > If you need to interface with ADAT machines and/or are using multiple
>MECs
>> > and wanting to use more than one ADAT card per MEC, you will not like
>> > Paris
>> > on XP. If ADAT compatibility and using multiple ADAT cards per MEC isn't
>> > an
>> > issue with you, Paris on XP is great, IMO.
>> >
>> > Deej
>> >
>> > "Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
>> > news:43fe2075$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> I guess the title says it all. I'm still running Win98SE, but it seems
>a
>> >> lot of new software runs only on XP. In particular, I'm looking at
the
>> > Waves
>> >> Q-Clone thing.'
>> >>
>> >> If this is truly viable, where might I find a FAQ on setup fo the XP
>> > environment?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any help.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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Chris,
No midi on the Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as
is the whole computer during the summer. I plan
to get an RME with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will
still need the 8x8 though.
It's between emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or
Edirol UM 880.
Anyone like these?
Tom
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message =
news:44008766@linux...
Hi Tom,
Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has always worked =
for=20
me as well as the Edirol stuff.
Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a mention=20
which it is you have.
Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on board USB ports!!
Chris
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
> versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
> than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,
> computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
> no information to start with.
> =20
> Problem #1:
> After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
> to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
> and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
> I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
> to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they
> just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that made
> no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant data
> was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all midi
> connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was being =
seen.=20
> Cubase wasn't open. I have not been beaten.
> =20
> I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
> as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
> the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I thought.=20
> =20
> Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded what
> I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were for the =
com port.
> Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I bring
> them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
> the exact same drivers that were already in there for the 8x8. Well
> the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
> then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, the
> directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows should
> recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was recognized was =
the
> smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two computers to
> find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> This is the final straw.=20
> =20
> Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB
> line somehow.=20
> =20
> I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8
> that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> What is there?
> =20
> The "sick of it all" guy,
> Tom
> =20
> PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> =20
--=20
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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------=_NextPart_000_0164_01C63A32.9CD10E40--After I had finished renovations back in 2000 it was time to turn the heating
system back on.
I went down to the basement, fired it up and heard the sound of running,
dripping cascading water coming from upstairs. Ran upstairs to find that
I had never capped the input side of a radiator I (permanently) removed from
the 1st floor bathroom.
Ran back to the basement to find water showering all over the old ibm netfinity
that ran the newsgroup. Darn thing never missed a beat.
Chuck
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Well, I found what tripped the safety switch. A small leak has emerged right
>near, would you beleive, the NG server, and a few drops have water have
landed
>in the NG server monitor, causing a short which has then tripped the safety
>switch.
>
>The server itself looks dry though. I think we're safe. I have a million
>15 inch monitors if that one doesn't work when it dries out...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>>
>>After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety switch
>>has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
>safety
>>switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
>>and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if
I
>>lose power altogether soon though.
>>
>>Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
>>has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
>>the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be lucky
>>if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>Hehe, well hell.
This was just a few drops. Just happenned they made their way in through
the vent in the top of the monitor.
Actualy running water... now that sounds troubling. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"chuck d" <chuck@wee.com> wrote:
>
>After I had finished renovations back in 2000 it was time to turn the heating
>system back on.
>
>I went down to the basement, fired it up and heard the sound of running,
>dripping cascading water coming from upstairs. Ran upstairs to find that
>I had never capped the input side of a radiator I (permanently) removed
from
>the 1st floor bathroom.
>
>Ran back to the basement to find water showering all over the old ibm netfinity
>that ran the newsgroup. Darn thing never missed a beat.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Well, I found what tripped the safety switch. A small leak has emerged
right
>>near, would you beleive, the NG server, and a few drops have water have
>landed
>>in the NG server monitor, causing a short which has then tripped the safety
>>switch.
>>
>>The server itself looks dry though. I think we're safe. I have a million
>>15 inch monitors if that one doesn't work when it dries out...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>>>
>>>After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
switch
>>>has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
>>safety
>>>switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another socket
>>>and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if
>I
>>>lose power altogether soon though.
>>>
>>>Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
>>>has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
>>>the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
lucky
>>>if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>It’s nice that the newsgroup has some traditions.
g
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hehe, well hell.
>
>This was just a few drops. Just happenned they made their way in through
>the vent in the top of the monitor.
>
>Actualy running water... now that sounds troubling. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"chuck d" <chuck@wee.com> wrote:
>>
>>After I had finished renovations back in 2000 it was time to turn the heating
>>system back on.
>>
>>I went down to the basement, fired it up and heard the sound of running,
>>dripping cascading water coming from upstairs. Ran upstairs to find that
>>I had never capped the input side of a radiator I (permanently) removed
>from
>>the 1st floor bathroom.
>>
>>Ran back to the basement to find water showering all over the old ibm netfinity
>>that ran the newsgroup. Darn thing never missed a beat.
>>
>>ChuckTried all your advice and none of it worked prefectly for me.
Got my head out my arse and paired it back down to one MEC.
Everything is perfect, and I just reassign cards and submixes when I want
to mix things up.
Thanks to you for your help.
JimmyChris,
FYI (and I know this is sort of OT) but I've had really good results using a
PCI latency adjustment tool to get things happening with 4 x UAD cards and 3
x RME cards in a 13 slot Magma. I'm getting around 60-65% (up from around
35-40%) UAD-1 resource usage before I start getting crackling. That's a
*lot* of UAD-1 plugins.
Deej
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:440084e3@linux...
> Hi Don,
> I would get a magma no matter what setup you use if you are doing a 4
> card system.
> If you can still find them the Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 (NForce 3
> chipset) and the ASUS A8V (not deluxe) (VIA 800 chipset).
> They are all AGP with 5 PCI slots. YOu would have to do one of those
> Matrox AGP/PCI video card combos methods to get 4 monitors. Honestly I
> would say stick with 3 monitors using the Matrox P750. Allot less
> variables and resource issues going on that way.
> I would avoid dual core cpus unless you are doing Cubase VST stuff on
> the same machine. The Athlon 64 4000+ or one of the FX series would be
> the best for number crunching a bunch of Waves plug ins. YOu also will
> reduce issues with the UAD and Paris not having a dual CPU setup.
>
> For more current motherboard with PCI-E the best one I've tried is the
> ASUS A8R-MVP but like all new board they have at most 3 PCI slots.
> Try to avoid Nforce 4 chipsets if you are using UAD and TC power core.
> The N4 chipset in general kicks ass if you are doing native only.
>
> Also try to avoid boards with to many convenient on board stuff. You
> will probably have to disable them anyways. Silicon Image SATA
> controller work nice on DAWS but the Promise SATA suck ass just disable
> from the get go. Most all the on board nics work great.
>
>
> MOst all the new board do behave as soon as you start to put more than 3
> PCI cards int he machine. Trying to put in 4 EDS cards would be hit or
> miss. The Magma 13 slot is the best one to get because it has the most
> user upgradeable parts. You can replace the noisy fans and power supply
> with better quality ones very easily. YOu can find them cheap on E bay.
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
> > Oh and while I'm asking...best video card(s) for a four monitor setup
> >
> > DOn
> >
> >
> > "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44005187@linux...
> >
> >>Hi all
> >>
> >>I have a couple of projects coming up that are going to be using huge
> >>track counts in the beginning stages and although virtual tracks are
nice
> >>they really are a PITA.
> >>
> >>So the question is - for a four EDS Card set up is their a MB / CPU
> >>combination out there that works with paris that would allow the
addition
> >>of a UAD1 card (making five slots total) or should I start looking at a
> >>magma chassis for this setup?
> >>
> >>
> >>Don
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762Deej,
I think it's time for you to stop, take a deep breath and smell a rosewood
fretboard :-)
Chuck
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Chris,
>
>FYI (and I know this is sort of OT) but I've had really good results using
a
>PCI latency adjustment tool to get things happening with 4 x UAD cards and
3
>x RME cards in a 13 slot Magma. I'm getting around 60-65% (up from around
>35-40%) UAD-1 resource usage before I start getting crackling. That's a
>*lot* of UAD-1 plugins.
>
>Deej
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:440084e3@linux...
>> Hi Don,
>> I would get a magma no matter what setup you use if you are doing a 4
>> card system.
>> If you can still find them the Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 (NForce 3
>> chipset) and the ASUS A8V (not deluxe) (VIA 800 chipset).
>> They are all AGP with 5 PCI slots. YOu would have to do one of those
>> Matrox AGP/PCI video card combos methods to get 4 monitors. Honestly I
>> would say stick with 3 monitors using the Matrox P750. Allot less
>> variables and resource issues going on that way.
>> I would avoid dual core cpus unless you are doing Cubase VST stuff on
>> the same machine. The Athlon 64 4000+ or one of the FX series would be
>> the best for number crunching a bunch of Waves plug ins. YOu also will
>> reduce issues with the UAD and Paris not having a dual CPU setup.
>>
>> For more current motherboard with PCI-E the best one I've tried is the
>> ASUS A8R-MVP but like all new board they have at most 3 PCI slots.
>> Try to avoid Nforce 4 chipsets if you are using UAD and TC power core.
>> The N4 chipset in general kicks ass if you are doing native only.
>>
>> Also try to avoid boards with to many convenient on board stuff. You
>> will probably have to disable them anyways. Silicon Image SATA
>> controller work nice on DAWS but the Promise SATA suck ass just disable
>> from the get go. Most all the on board nics work great.
>>
>>
>> MOst all the new board do behave as soon as you start to put more than
3
>> PCI cards int he machine. Trying to put in 4 EDS cards would be hit or
>> miss. The Magma 13 slot is the best one to get because it has the most
>> user upgradeable parts. You can replace the noisy fans and power supply
>> with better quality ones very easily. YOu can find them cheap on E bay.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Don Nafe wro
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John [1]
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ts!!
>=20
> Chris
>=20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>=20
> > This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
> > versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
> > than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, =
editors,
> > computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
> > no information to start with.
> >=20
> > Problem #1:
> > After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
> > to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
> > and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
> > I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
> > to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =
away,they
> > just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that =
made
> > no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant =
data
> > was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all =
midi
> > connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was =
being
> seen.
> > Cubase wasn't open. I have not been =
beaten.
> >=20
> > I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
> > as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
> > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> > old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> > Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> > to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I =
thought.
> >=20
> > Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded =
what
> > I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were =
for
> the com port.
> > Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I =
bring
> > them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
> > the exact same drivers that were already in there for the =
8x8. Well
> > the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
> > then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, =
the
> > directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows =
should
> > recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was =
recognized
> was the
> > smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two =
computers to
> > find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> > This is the final straw.
> >=20
> > Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> > I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB
> > line somehow.
> >=20
> > I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8
> > that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> > What is there?
> >=20
> > The "sick of it all" guy,
> > Tom
> >=20
> > PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> >=20
>=20
> --=20
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
--=20
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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still need=20
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<BR>> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
=
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experience. The=20
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midi ports on it? I couldn't find a =
mention<BR>> =20
which it is you have.<BR>> Hopefully the =
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<BR>> Chris<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>>=20
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> versed=20
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multi-timberal synths, controllers,=20
editors,<BR>> > computers, midi =
merging,=20
SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and<BR>> =
> no=20
information to start with.<BR>> >=20
<BR>> > Problem=20
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> to my=20
TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch=20
bay<BR>> > and crashing Windows =
into an=20
auto restart from black screen<BR>> =
> I=20
loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of=20
Amiga)<BR>> > to send this sysex=20
data. Well the problems didn't go=20
away,they<BR>> > just =
changed. FM=20
Alive was getting long sysex messages that=20
made<BR>> > no sense. It =
would work=20
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seen to=20
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midi<BR>> > connections from the =
Motu 8x8=20
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<BR>> > I decided to try my =
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------=_NextPart_000_0187_01C63A7E.951576E0--What about the wintertime, or isn't there something like that where you
live?-)
Cheers
Erling
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i melding news:4401486b$1@linux...
>
>
> Excellent! ;o) That looks like just the ticket!
>
> I'll bet it's more likely top have stable power than this place. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>Kim I found youa new house!!!
>>Notice on the top left corner its got wireless!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Kim wrote:
>>
>>> Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>>>
>>> After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
> switch
>>> has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that the
> safety
>>> switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another
>>> socket
>>> and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me if
> I
>>> lose power altogether soon though.
>>>
>>> Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
>>> has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
>>> the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
> lucky
>>> if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>Hehe. Yes, we have winter, though I've heard people talking about the idea
that the European seasons don't really apply to Australia, and that we should
have six seasons or some such thing...
....but despite this talk, and despite global warming, Melbourne still has
a fairly cool patch especially around July/August. And much as I see a certain
romance in living in a straw hut, it really wouldn't be warm enough, nor
waterproof enough. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>What about the wintertime, or isn't there something like that where you
>live?-)
>
>Cheers
>Erling
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i melding news:4401486b$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Excellent! ;o) That looks like just the ticket!
>>
>> I'll bet it's more likely top have stable power than this place. ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Kim I found youa new house!!!
>>>Notice on the top left corner its got wireless!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lightening, thunder, and rain, oh the rain...
>>>>
>>>> After several glitches in the power, now, for some reason, the safety
>> switch
>>>> has tripped, which of course cut power to the server. It seems that
the
>> safety
>>>> switch is only on some circuits though. I've run a lead to another
>>>> socket
>>>> and the server UPS is getting fed mains again. Wouldn't surprise me
if
>> I
>>>> lose power altogether soon though.
>>>>
>>>> Now to work out why the safety switch wont reset. I'm wondering if water
>>>> has gotten into the wiring somewhere... something's not right. Between
>>>> the wiring in this house, and the electricity in this street, I'll be
>> lucky
>>>> if this house doesn't burn down one of these days...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>no it's a g5. if i were even to buy an intel mac it wouldn't be until
they were out for a couple of years for studio use...i'd be afraid
that i'd be buying something like i had in the fs800...disaster.
the test was with logic as all the files for dp have waves, drumagog
and other plugs that need to be authorized. my partner has the iloks
for those in arizona at the moment and will be gone till the 3/27.
as far as sids with logic goes i usually convert or record through
outboard gear the synths and use them as audio tracks once i get the
part right.
my next project...i don't know. for the last year plus i've been
letting the studio pay me to stay out of it other than as a janitor
and tech head. for me right now i think i'd like to specialize in
acoustic stuff and leave the everybody is playing the same mostly bad
to scott.
for the last few months i've gotten back into song writing and working
on my playing chops...okay, slops is probably more like it but i
really missed do that. i'm trying to replace the voices in my head
with melodies.
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:31:23 -0700, Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com>
wrote:
>
>Hey Rick, that's good to hear! Is it the new Intel laptop or iMac?
>
>Is that loop test with Logic or with DP? If it's with Logic are some of
>those plugins soft synths? If some are soft synths have any randomly
>quit playing?
>
>Apple's Logic tour is coming to Colorado in a couple of weeks and I'm
>getting way tired of that bug and gonna bring it up.
>
>Anyway, it's great that you finally have a working Mac. Aside from the
>bug I mentioned with Logic, it offers a pretty capable environment.
>
>So now that you have finally have a working system what's your next
>recording project?
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>rick wrote:
>> it's run 16 hrs. without crashing on a 45 track 52 plugins with 6
>> impulse response verbs 3 minute loop.
>>
>> On 26 Feb 2006 04:55:10 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Do tell Rick..We are dying to know..
>>>
>>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>"I want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but i've not had
any problems with the m-audio stuff.
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>I'm trying to avoid drivers at all costs.
>Midi in/out sounds far more stable to me.
>I want a stand alone box.
>
>USB/MIDI = Extra unknown sysex data
> Computer crashes
> Smoked hardware
> Midi Communication loss
> 7 days of lost revenue
>
>or is that just Motu?
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message news:44015426@linux...
> Hi Tom,
> The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The Emagic PC driver
> development/support is non existent.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Chris,
> > No midi on the Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as
> > is the whole computer during the summer. I plan
> > to get an RME with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will
> > still need the 8x8 though.
> >
> > It's between emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or
> > Edirol UM 880.
> >
> > Anyone like these?
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>> wrote in message news:44008766@linux...
> > Hi Tom,
> > Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has always worked for
> > me as well as the Edirol stuff.
> > Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a mention
> > which it is you have.
> > Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on board USB ports!!
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> >
> > > This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
> > > versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
> > > than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,
> > > computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
> > > no information to start with.
> > >
> > > Problem #1:
> > > After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
> > > to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
> > > and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
> > > I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
> > > to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they
> > > just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that made
> > > no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant data
> > > was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all midi
> > > connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was being
> > seen.
> > > Cubase wasn't open. I have not been beaten.
> > >
> > > I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
> > > as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
> > > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> > > old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> > > Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> > > to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I thought.
> > >
> > > Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded what
> > > I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were for
> > the com port.
> > > Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I bring
> > > them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
> > > the exact same drivers that were already in there for the 8x8. Well
> > > the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
> > > then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, the
> > > directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows should
> > > recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was recognized
> > was the
> > > smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two computers to
> > > find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> > > This is the final straw.
> > >
> > > Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> > > I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB
> > > line somehow.
> > >
> > > I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8
> > > that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> > > What is there?
> > >
> > > The "sick of it all" guy,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Ludwig
> > ADK
> > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> > <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > (859) 635-5762
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762Man,
I thought you were talking about running Paris on your new Mac.
Of cousre Logic 7x works with the G5(s).Duhh :)
"LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>
>Do tell Rick..We are dying to know..
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
>>
>>
>If you are going to be there anyway, swing by Coast
Recording Equipment... it's "the" audio boneyard!
http://www.coastrecording.com/
Prices are silly steep but it's fun to walk around and check
out the stuff.
David.
DJ wrote:
> I'm going to be in the LA area (well, sort of-Ontario/Loma Linda actually)
> tomorrow. I've got business there Monday morning but Monday afternoon and
> Tuesday I'm going to probably be cruising some of my old haunts in the
> Valley and Hollywood/West LA, plus snarking around for goodies for the
> studio. Haven't been in LA since the early 70's.
>
> If anyone wants to *do lunch*, or whatever, my cell phone is 970-769-0488.
>
> Deej
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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M-Audio is first on the list of two then...
Thanks you guys.
Tom
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com...
"I want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but i've not had
any problems with the m-audio stuff.
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>I'm trying to avoid drivers at all costs.
>Midi in/out sounds far more stable to me.
>I want a stand alone box.
>
>USB/MIDI =3D Extra unknown sysex data
> Computer crashes
> Smoked hardware
> Midi Communication loss
> 7 days of lost revenue
>
>or is that just Motu?
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message =
news:44015426@linux...
> Hi Tom,
> The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The Emagic PC driver=20
> development/support is non existent.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Chris,
> > No midi on the Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as
> > is the whole computer during the summer. I plan
> > to get an RME with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will
> > still need the 8x8 though.
> > =20
> > It's between emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or
> > Edirol UM 880.
> > =20
> > Anyone like these?
> > Tom
> > =20
> > =20
> >=20
> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>> wrote in message =
news:44008766@linux...
> > Hi Tom,
> > Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has always =
worked for
> > me as well as the Edirol stuff.
> > Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a =
mention
> > which it is you have.
> > Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on board USB ports!!
> >=20
> > Chris
> >=20
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> >=20
> > > This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
> > > versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less =
pleasant
> > > than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, =
editors,
> > > computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
> > > no information to start with.
> > >=20
> > > Problem #1:
> > > After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
> > > to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
> > > and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black =
screen
> > > I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
> > > to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =
away,they
> > > just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages =
that made
> > > no sense. It would work at editing the synths but =
irrelevant data
> > > was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected =
all midi
> > > connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was =
being
> > seen.
> > > Cubase wasn't open. I have not =
been beaten.
> > >=20
> > > I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu =
8x8
> > > as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
> > > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> > > old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> > > Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> > > to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I =
thought.
> > >=20
> > > Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I =
loaded what
> > > I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were =
for
> > the com port.
> > > Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I =
bring
> > > them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they =
are
> > > the exact same drivers that were already in there for the =
8x8. Well
> > > the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd =
'remove'
> > > then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the =
reinstall, the
> > > directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and =
Windows should
> > > recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was =
recognized
> > was the
> > > smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two =
computers to
> > > find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> > > This is the final straw.
> > >=20
> > > Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> > > I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the =
USB
> > > line somehow.
> > >=20
> > > I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone =
8x8
> > > that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> > > What is there?
> > >=20
> > > The "sick of it all" guy,
> > > Tom
> > >=20
> > > PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> > >=20
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Chris Ludwig
> > ADK
> > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> > <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > (859) 635-5762
>
> --=20
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks you guys.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"rick" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com">news:nc0302h597i=
7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>"I=20
want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but i've =
not=20
had<BR>any problems with the m-audio stuff.<BR><BR>On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 =
02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
<BR><BR>>I'm=20
trying to avoid drivers at all costs.<BR>>Midi in/out sounds far =
more=20
stable to me.<BR>>I want a stand alone box.<BR>><BR>>USB/MIDI =
=3D =20
Extra unknown sysex=20
=
data<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &=
nbsp; & nbsp; =20
Computer=20
=
crashes<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbs p; =20
Smoked=20
=
hardware<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nb sp; =20
Midi Communication=20
=
loss<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &=
nbsp; & nbsp; =20
7 days of lost revenue<BR>><BR>>or is that just=20
Motu?<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:44015426@linux">news:44015426@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
Hi Tom,<BR>> The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The =
Emagic PC=20
driver <BR>> development/support is non=20
existent.<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
Chris<BR>><BR>><BR>> =20
Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> > Chris,<BR>> > No midi =
on the=20
Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as<BR>> > is the whole =
computer during the summer. I plan<BR>> > to get an =
RME with=20
ADAT and midi interfaces. I will<BR>> > still need =
the 8x8=20
though.<BR>> > <BR>> > It's between =
emagic=20
unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or<BR>> > Edirol UM =
880.<BR>> =20
> <BR>> > Anyone like these?<BR>> >=20
Tom<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> =
>=20
<BR>> > "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A><BR>>=
=20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
gt;>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44008766@linux">news:44008766@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
> Hi Tom,<BR>> =20
> Sadly a common MOTU experience. The =
M-Audio stuff=20
has always worked for<BR>> > me as =
well as=20
the Edirol stuff.<BR>> > Does your =
sound=20
card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a mention<BR>> =20
> which it is you have.<BR>> =20
> Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on =
board=20
USB ports!!<BR>> > <BR>> =
> =20
Chris<BR>> > <BR>> > =
Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> =
> =2 0
> This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly=20
well<BR>> > > versed with =
midi as=20
a whole. This has been far less pleasant<BR>> =20
> > than my first day with =
multi-timberal=20
synths, controllers, editors,<BR>> =
> =2 0
> computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer =
and<BR>> =20
> > no information to start=20
with.<BR>> > > =
<BR>> =20
> > Problem #1:<BR>> =20
> > After not being able to =
transmit sysex=20
from my Amiga<BR>> > > to =
my TX7s=20
without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay<BR>> =20
> > and crashing Windows into an =
auto=20
restart from black screen<BR>> =
> =2 0
> I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of=20
Amiga)<BR>> > > to send =
this=20
sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they<BR>> =20
> > just changed. FM Alive =
was=20
getting long sysex messages that made<BR>> =20
> > no sense. It would work =
at=20
editing the synths but irrelevant data<BR>> =20
> > was constantly being seen to =
the=20
program. I disconnected all midi<BR>> =20
> > connections from the Motu 8x8 =
and=20
STILL USB-MIDI data was being<BR>> =
> =20
seen.<BR>> > > Cubase =
wasn't=20
=
open. & nbsp; & n=
bsp; &n bsp; &n b=
sp; =20
I have not been beaten.<BR>> =
> >=20
<BR>> > > I decided to =
try my=20
original concept of using this Motu 8x8<BR>> =20
> > as a stand alone and program a =
few=20
presets, disconnect<BR>> > =
> the=20
USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the<BR>> =20
> > old fashioned way. Midi =
in/out=20
of Cubase through<BR>> > =
>=20
Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed<BR>> =20
> &nb
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loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of =
Amiga)
> > > to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =
away,they
> > > just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages =
that made
> > > no sense. It would work at editing the synths but =
irrelevant data
> > > was constantly being seen to the program. I =
disconnected all midi
> > > connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data =
was being
> > seen.
> > > Cubase wasn't open. I have not =
been beaten.
> > >=20
> > > I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu =
8x8
> > > as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
> > > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> > > old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> > > Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> > > to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I =
thought.
> > >=20
> > > Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I =
loaded what
> > > I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They =
were for
> > the com port.
> > > Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I =
bring
> > > them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they =
are
> > > the exact same drivers that were already in there for =
the 8x8. Well
> > > the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd =
'remove'
> > > then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the =
reinstall, the
> > > directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and =
Windows should
> > > recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was =
recognized
> > was the
> > > smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two =
computers to
> > > find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> > > This is the final straw.
> > >=20
> > > Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> > > I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the =
USB
> > > line somehow.
> > >=20
> > > I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand =
alone 8x8
> > > that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> > > What is there?
> > >=20
> > > The "sick of it all" guy,
> > > Tom
> > >=20
> > > PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> > >=20
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Chris Ludwig
> > ADK
> > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> > <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > (859) 635-5762
>
> --=20
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you using the M-audio 8x8 with =
XP?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am reading about just as many =
unhappy=20
customers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using this box as the =
Motu.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd hate to return one problem for=20
another...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:4402008b@linux">news:4402008b@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>M-Audio is first on the list of two=20
then...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks you guys.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"rick" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com">news:nc0302h597i=
7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>"I=20
want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but =
i've not=20
had<BR>any problems with the m-audio stuff.<BR><BR>On Sun, 26 Feb =
2006=20
02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
<BR><BR>>I'm=20
trying to avoid drivers at all costs.<BR>>Midi in/out sounds far =
more=20
stable to me.<BR>>I want a stand alone =
box.<BR>><BR>>USB/MIDI=20
=3D Extra unknown sysex=20
=
data<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &=
nbsp; & nbsp; =20
Computer=20
=
crashes<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbs p; =20
Smoked=20
=
hardware<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nb sp; =20
Midi Communication=20
=
loss<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &=
nbsp; & nbsp; =20
7 days of lost revenue<BR>><BR>>or is that just=20
Motu?<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44015426@linux">news:44015426@linux</A>...<BR>> Hi =
Tom,<BR>> The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The =
Emagic PC=20
driver <BR>> development/support is non=20
existent.<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
Chris<BR>><BR>><BR>> =20
Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> > Chris,<BR>> > No =
midi on the=20
Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as<BR>> > is the =
whole=20
computer during the summer. I plan<BR>> > to get =
an RME=20
with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will<BR>> > still =
need=20
the 8x8 though.<BR>> > <BR>> > It's =
between=20
emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or<BR>> > Edirol UM=20
880.<BR>> > <BR>> > Anyone like=20
these?<BR>> > Tom<BR>> > =
<BR>> =20
> <BR>> > <BR>> =
> =20
"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A><BR>>=
=20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
gt;>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44008766@linux">news:44008766@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
> Hi Tom,<BR>> =20
> Sadly a common MOTU experience. The =
M-Audio=20
stuff has always worked for<BR>> =
> me as=20
well as the Edirol stuff.<BR>> > =
Does=20
your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a=20
mention<BR>> > which it is you=20
have.<BR>> > Hopefully the MOTU =
didn't=20
damage your on board USB ports!!<BR>> > <BR>> =20
> Chris<BR>> > <BR>> =
> Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> >=20
<BR>> > > This is after =
over a=20
week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well<BR>> =20
> > versed with midi as a =
whole. =20
This has been far less pleasant<BR>> =20
> > than my first day with=20
multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,<BR>> =20
> > computers, midi merging, =
SMPTE to=20
Midi Song Pointer and<BR>> =
> >=20
no information to start with.<BR>> =20
> > <BR>> =20
> > Problem #1:<BR>> =20
> > After not being able to =
transmit=20
sysex from my Amiga<BR>> > =
> to=20
my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay<BR>> =
> > and crashing Windows into an =
auto=20
restart from black screen<BR>> =
> =2 0
> I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of=20
Amiga)<BR>> > > to send =
this=20
sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =
away,they<BR>> =20
> > just changed. FM Alive =
was=20
getting long sysex messages that made<BR>> =20
> > no sense. It would =
work at=20
editing the synths but irrelevant data<BR>> =20
> > was constantly being seen to =
the=20
program. I disconnected all midi<BR>> =20
> > connections from the Motu =
8x8 and=20
STILL USB-MIDI data was being<BR>> =
> =20
seen.<BR>> > > Cubase =
wasn't=20
=
open. & nbsp; & n=
bsp; &n bsp; &n b=
sp; =20
I have not been beaten.<BR>> =
> =2 0
> <BR>> > > I =
decided to try=20
my original concept of using this Motu 8x8<BR>> =20
> > as a stand alone and program =
a few=20
presets, disconnect<BR>> > =
>=20
the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the<BR>> =20
> > old fashioned way. =
Midi in/out=20
of Cubase through<BR>> > =
>=20
Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed<BR>> =20
> > to all ins/outs of hardware=20
synths. Piece of cake so I thought.<BR>> =20
> > <BR>> =20
> > Now to dig up the =
drivers for=20
the FastLane again... I loaded what<BR>> =20
> > I thought were the right =
ones but=20
they weren't. They were for<BR>> =
> =20
the com port.<BR>> > > =
Okay, so=20
I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I =
bring<BR>> =20
> > them into the computer to =
realize=20
minus Clockworks they are<BR>> =
> =2 0
> the exact same drivers that were already in there for the =
8x8. =20
Well<BR>> > > the 8x8 =
wasn't=20
working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'<BR>> =20
> > then 'reinstall' them just =
to be=20
safe. After the reinstall, the<BR>> =20
> > directions are to plug in =
the device=20
(USB cable) and Windows should<BR>> =20
> > recognize the new =
hardware. =20
The only thing that was recognized<BR>> =20
> was the<BR>> =20
> > smell of burning =
components. I=20
quickly shut down two computers to<BR>> =20
> > find out that the green =
FastLane=20
smoked!<BR>> > > This =
is the=20
final straw.<BR>> > >=20
<BR>> > > Drivers from =
Motu are=20
flakey as hell.<BR>> > =
> I=20
swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the =
USB<BR>> =20
> > line somehow.<BR>> =20
> > <BR>> =20
> > I now need a new small =
in/out box=20
(2x2) and a stand alone 8x8<BR>> =
> =2 0
> that works and merges without Fn drivers.<BR>> =20
> > What is there?<BR>> =
> > <BR>> =20
> > The "sick of it all"=20
guy,<BR>> > > =
Tom<BR>> =20
> > <BR>> =20
> > PS Midi is still cool. =
Motu is=20
not.<BR>> > > =
<BR>> =20
> <BR>> > -- <BR>> =20
> Chris Ludwig<BR>> =20
> ADK<BR>> =
> =20
<A href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
gt;<BR>> =20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
gt;<BR>> =20
> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">www.adkproaudio.com</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">http://www.adkproaudio.com</A>><BR=
>> =20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A>><=
BR>> =20
> (859) 635-5762<BR>><BR>> -- =
<BR>> Chris Ludwig<BR>> ADK<BR>> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
gt;<BR>> =20
<A href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">www.adkproaudio.com</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A>><=
BR>> =20
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------=_NextPart_000_01FC_01C63AF6.6390FD10--I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4. The G4
has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very small place,
so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine room, not
even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building a big box
out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter chassis
fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little popped
up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
Thanks.
MRI'm not sure how they do it, but the Dell in my office is really quiet - one
of the quietest machines I have heard. You couild check their fans out
somehow.
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4402294d$1@linux...
> I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4. The G4
> has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very small
> place,
> so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine room, not
> even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building a big
> box
> out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter chassis
> fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little popped
> up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
>
> Thanks.
> MR
>
>It's more than just the fans, the entire chassis is designed and built by a
specific facility 'just' for keeping things quiet. Dell has gone to great
lengths on this particular.
AA
"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message news:440239bf@linux...
> I'm not sure how they do it, but the Dell in my office is really quiet -
> one of the quietest machines I have heard. You couild check their fans out
> somehow.
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4402294d$1@linux...
>> I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4. The
>> G4
>> has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very small
>> place,
>> so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine room,
>> not
>> even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building a big
>> box
>> out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter chassis
>> fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little
>> popped
>> up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> MR
>>
>>
>
>I wish it would come out the out the day after the rest of the world got in
there and helped.
Mike (a Canadian)
"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>I hear that PARIS 4 is coming out the day after Bush gets smart and we
>withdraw from Iraq.....
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:r0b102hk0n983rdlnq0147hjfi4f74ij7c@4ax.com...
>> so it's not just your left and right hands...i feel much better
>> now...thanks.
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:34:31 -0800, TC
>> <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Oh,
>> >
>> >Sorry, Steve actually meant "4", and not "for"..
>> >
>> >Damn internet lingo has me so confused sometimes :)
>> >
>> >L8R,
>> >
>> >TC
>> >
>> >
>> >steve the artguy wrote:
>> >> "Steve" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
>> >>>Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Steve-
>> >>
>> >> i'm tempted to say, yeah, it's out, but there's no info on it, 'cause
>it
>> >> won't record any info... but enought jokin.
>> >>
>> >> those other guys are a' pullin' yer leg. Ain't no Paris 4 now, ain't
>gonna
>> >> be no Paris 4 later.
>> >>
>> >> Them other guys may have been jokin' with you 'cause they thought you
>was
>> >> me.
>> >>
>> >> Give guys named Steve a break, guys....!
>> >>
>> >> -steve the artguy
>>
>
>I cut a small hole in the wall to run the cables through and put the computer
in the next room.
I spent a whole lot of $ buying "quiet" fans that were never quiet enough.
I wouldn't even go there.
Good luck!
Mike
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4. The
G4
>has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very small place,
>so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine room, not
>even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building a big
box
>out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter chassis
>fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little popped
>up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
>
>Thanks.
>MR
>
>Got an extra Digipatch lying around....if you're interested...
Jimmy
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:440143bd$1@linux...
> Welcome Jimmy
>
> ;o)
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:44010ec8@linux...
> > Tried all your advice and none of it worked prefectly for me.
> >
> > Got my head out my arse and paired it back down to one MEC.
> >
> > Everything is perfect, and I just reassign cards and submixes when I
want
> > to mix things up.
> >
> > Thanks to you for your help.
> >
> > Jimmy
> >
> >
>
>Yep. It's got to be physical separation of computer from critical space.
Jimmy
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
news:440251b8$1@linux...
>
> I cut a small hole in the wall to run the cables through and put the
computer
> in the next room.
>
> I spent a whole lot of $ buying "quiet" fans that were never quiet enough.
> I wouldn't even go there.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4. The
> G4
> >has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very small
place,
> >so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine room,
not
> >even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building a big
> box
> >out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter chassis
> >fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little
popped
> >up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >MR
> >
> >
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Was there a parade?
Tom
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
news:4402563f@linux...
Yep. It's got to be physical separation of computer from critical =
space.
Jimmy
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
news:440251b8$1@linux...
>
> I cut a small hole in the wall to run the cables through and put the
computer
> in the next room.
>
> I spent a whole lot of $ buying "quiet" fans that were never quiet =
enough.
> I wouldn't even go there.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4. =
The
> G4
> >has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very =
small
place,
> >so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine =
room,
not
> >even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building =
a big
> box
> >out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter =
chassis
> >fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little
popped
> >up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >MR
> >
> >
>
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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C63B13.8F016AD0--DO a google for VERAXFANS they make a set up for the noisy Mac
>
>
>Was there a parade?
>Tom
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
>news:4402563f@linux...
> Yep. It's got to be physical separation of computer from critical =
>space.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
> news:440251b8$1@linux...
> >
> > I cut a small hole in the wall to run the cables through and put the
> computer
> > in the next room.
> >
> > I spent a whole lot of $ buying "quiet" fans that were never quiet =
>enough.
> > I wouldn't even go there.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4.
=
>The
> > G4
> > >has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very =
>small
> place,
> > >so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine =
>room,
> not
> > >even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building
=
>a big
> > box
> > >out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter =
>chassis
> > >fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little
> popped
> > >up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >MR
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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> <DIV>"uptown jimmy" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:johnson314@bellsouth.net">johnson314@bellsouth.net</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A =
>href=3D"news:4402563f@linux">news:4402563f@linux</A>...</DIV>Yep.=20
> It's got to be physical separation of computer from critical=20
> space.<BR><BR>Jimmy<BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com">mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message<BR><A=20
> =
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>t; I=20
> cut a small hole in the wall to run the cables through and put=20
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>whole lot=20
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>
> wouldn't even go there.<BR>><BR>> Good luck!<BR>><BR>>=20
> Mike<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Mike R." <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:emarenot@yahoo.com">emarenot@yahoo.com</A>> =
>wrote:<BR>>=20
> >I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me =
>G4. =20
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>now) stuck=20
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>closet to=20
> stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building a big<BR>>=20
> box<BR>> >out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking =
>some=20
> quieter chassis<BR>> >fans would help too. I googled =
>"super quiet=20
> fans," but very little<BR>popped<BR>> >up. Anybody out =
>there found=20
> a useful solution?<BR>> ><BR>> >Thanks.<BR>> =
>>MR<BR>>=20
> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>How many of you guys that are having issues with interfaces
have installed XP Service Pack 2?
The reason I ask is that I upgraded to a new mobo & CPU
recently, and my RME Multiface was working OK until I loaded
Service Pack 2, and now the drivers aren't being recognized at
all, and I'm having difficulty getting it to roll back properly
to the system restore point before SP#2.
Anyone else experiencing driver issues with SP2, or could it be
something else completely?
Neil
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rick,
>Are you using the M-audio 8x8 with XP?
>I am reading about just as many unhappy customers
>using this box as the Motu.
>
>I'd hate to return one problem for another...
>Tom
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:4402008b@linux...
> M-Audio is first on the list of two then...
>
> Thanks you guys.
> Tom
>
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com...
> "I want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but i've not =
>had
> any problems with the m-audio stuff.
>
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" =
><arpegio@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm trying to avoid drivers at all costs.
> >Midi in/out sounds far more stable to me.
> >I want a stand alone box.
> >
> >USB/MIDI =3D Extra unknown sysex data
> > Computer crashes
> > Smoked hardware
> > Midi Communication loss
> > 7 days of lost revenue
> >
> >or is that just Motu?
> >
> >
> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message =
>news:44015426@linux...
> > Hi Tom,
> > The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The Emagic PC driver=20
> > development/support is non existent.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > > No midi on the Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as
> > > is the whole computer during the summer. I plan
> > > to get an RME with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will
> > > still need the 8x8 though.
> > > =20
> > > It's between emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or
> > > Edirol UM 880.
> > > =20
> > > Anyone like these?
> > > Tom
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> > > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>> wrote in message =
>news:44008766@linux...
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has =
>always worked for
> > > me as well as the Edirol stuff.
> > > Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find
=
>a mention
> > > which it is you have.
> > > Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on board USB ports!!
> > >=20
> > > Chris
> > >=20
> > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > >=20
> > > > This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly =
>well
> > > > versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less =
>pleasant
> > > > than my first day with multi-timberal synths, =
>controllers, editors,
> > > > computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and
> > > > no information to start with.
> > > >=20
> > > > Problem #1:
> > > > After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
> > > > to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch =
>bay
> > > > and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black =
>screen
> > > > I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of =
>Amiga)
> > > > to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =
>away,they
> > > > just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages
=
>that made
> > > > no sense. It would work at editing the synths but =
>irrelevant data
> > > > was constantly being seen to the program. I =
>disconnected all midi
> > > > connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data =
>was being
> > > seen.
> > > > Cubase wasn't open. I have not
=
>been beaten.
> > > >=20
> > > > I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu
=
>8x8
> > > > as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
> > > > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> > > > old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> > > > Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> > > > to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I
=
>thought.
> > > >=20
> > > > Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I =
>loaded what
> > > > I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They =
>were for
> > > the com port.
> > > > Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I
=
>bring
> > > > them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they
=
>are
> > > > the exact same drivers that were already in there for =
>the 8x8. Well
> > > > the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd =
>'remove'
> > > > then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the =
>reinstall, the
> > > > directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and =
>Windows should
> > > > recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was =
>recognized
> > > was the
> > > > smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two =
>computers to
> > > > find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> > > > This is the final straw.
> > > >=20
> > > > Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> > > > I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the
=
>USB
> > > > line somehow.
> > > >=20
> > > > I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand =
>alone 8x8
> > > > that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> > > > What is there?
> > > >=20
> > > > The "sick of it all" guy,
> > > > Tom
> > > >=20
> > > > PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > Chris Ludwig
> > > ADK
> > > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> > > <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > > (859) 635-5762
> >
> > --=20
> > Chris Ludwig
> > ADK
> > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > (859) 635-5762
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you using the M-audio 8x8 with =
>XP?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am reading about just as many =
>unhappy=20
>customers</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using this box as the =
>Motu.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd hate to return one problem for=20
>another...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A href=3D"news:4402008b@linux">news:4402008b@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>M-Audio is first on the list of two=20
> then...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks you guys.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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> <DIV>"rick" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com">news:nc0302h597i=
>7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>"I=20
> want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but =
>i've not=20
> had<BR>any problems with the m-audio stuff.<BR><BR>On Sun, 26 Feb =
>2006=20
> 02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
><BR><BR>>I'm=20
> trying to avoid drivers at all costs.<BR>>Midi in/out sounds far =
>more=20
> stable to me.<BR>>I want a stand alone =
>box.<BR>><BR>>USB/MIDI=20
> =3D Extra unknown sysex=20
> =
>data<BR>> &=
>nbsp; =20
> Computer=20
> =
>crashes<BR>> &nbs=
>p; =20
> Smoked=20
> =
>hardware<BR>> &nb=
>sp; =20
> Midi Communication=20
> =
>loss<BR>> &=
>nbsp; =20
> 7 days of lost revenue<BR>><BR>>or is that just=20
> Motu?<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44015426@linux">news:44015426@linux</A>...<BR>> Hi =
>
> Tom,<BR>> The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The =
>Emagic PC=20
> driver <BR>> development/support is non=20
> existent.<BR>><BR>><BR>> =
>Chris<BR>><BR>><BR>> =20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> > Chris,<BR>> > No =
>midi on the=20
> Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as<BR>> > is the =
>whole=20
> computer during the summer. I plan<BR>> > to get =
>an RME=20
> with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will<BR>> > still =
>need=20
> the 8x8 though.<BR>> > <BR>> > It's =
>between=20
> emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or<BR>> > Edirol UM=20
> 880.<BR>> > <BR>> > Anyone like=20
> these?<BR>> > Tom<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> > <BR>> > <BR>> =
>> =20
> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A><BR>&g
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the puzzle [message #63478 is a reply to message #63453] |
Fri, 20 January 2006 15:34 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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t;=
> =20
> > <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
>gt;>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44008766@linux">news:44008766@linux</A>...<BR>> =20
> > Hi Tom,<BR>> =20
> > Sadly a common MOTU experience. The =
>M-Audio=20
> stuff has always worked for<BR>> =
>> me as=20
> well as the Edirol stuff.<BR>> > =
>Does=20
> your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a=20
> mention<BR>> > which it is you=20
> have.<BR>> > Hopefully the MOTU =
>didn't=20
> damage your on board USB ports!!<BR>> > <BR>> =20
> > Chris<BR>> > <BR>> =
>
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> >=20
> <BR>> > > This is after =
>over a=20
> week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well<BR>> =20
> > > versed with midi as a =
>whole. =20
> This has been far less pleasant<BR>> =20
> > > than my first day with=20
> multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,<BR>> =20
> > > computers, midi merging, =
>SMPTE to=20
> Midi Song Pointer and<BR>> =
>> >=20
> no information to start with.<BR>> =20
> > > <BR>> =20
> > > Problem #1:<BR>> =20
> > > After not being able to =
>transmit=20
> sysex from my Amiga<BR>> > =
>> to=20
> my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay<BR>> =
>
> > > and crashing Windows into an =
>auto=20
> restart from black screen<BR>> =
>> =20
> > I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of=20
> Amiga)<BR>> > > to send =
>this=20
> sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =
>away,they<BR>> =20
> > > just changed. FM Alive =
>was=20
> getting long sysex messages that made<BR>> =20
> > > no sense. It would =
>work at=20
> editing the synths but irrelevant data<BR>> =20
> > > was constantly being seen to =
>the=20
> program. I disconnected all midi<BR>> =20
> > > connections from the Motu =
>8x8 and=20
> STILL USB-MIDI data was being<BR>> =
>> =20
> seen.<BR>> > > Cubase =
>wasn't=20
> =
>open. &n=
>bsp; &nb=
>sp; =20
> I have not been beaten.<BR>> =
>> =20
> > <BR>> > > I =
>decided to try=20
> my original concept of using this Motu 8x8<BR>> =20
> > > as a stand alone and program =
>a few=20
> presets, disconnect<BR>> > =
>>=20
> the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the<BR>> =20
> > > old fashioned way. =
>Midi in/out=20
> of Cubase through<BR>> > =
>>=20
> Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed<BR>> =20
> > > to all ins/outs of hardware=20
> synths. Piece of cake so I thought.<BR>> =20
> > > <BR>> =20
> > > Now to dig up the =
>drivers for=20
> the FastLane again... I loaded what<BR>> =20
> > > I thought were the right =
>ones but=20
> they weren't. They were for<BR>> =
>> =20
> the com port.<BR>> > > =
>Okay, so=20
> I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I =
>bring<BR>> =20
> > > them into the computer to =
>realize=20
> minus Clockworks they are<BR>> =
>> =20
> > the exact same drivers that were already in there for the =
>8x8. =20
> Well<BR>> > > the 8x8 =
>wasn't=20
> working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'<BR>> =20
> > > then 'reinstall' them just =
>to be=20
> safe. After the reinstall, the<BR>> =20
> > > directions are to plug in =
>the device=20
> (USB cable) and Windows should<BR>> =20
> > > recognize the new =
>hardware. =20
> The only thing that was recognized<BR>> =20
> > was the<BR>> =20
> > > smell of burning =
>components. I=20
> quickly shut down two computers to<BR>> =20
> > > find out that the green =
>FastLane=20
> smoked!<BR>> > > This =
>is the=20
> final straw.<BR>> > >=20
> <BR>> > > Drivers from =
>Motu are=20
> flakey as hell.<BR>> > =
>> I=20
> swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the =
>USB<BR>> =20
> > > line somehow.<BR>> =20
> > > <BR>> =20
> > > I now need a new small =
>in/out box=20
> (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8<BR>> =
>> =20
> > that works and merges without Fn drivers.<BR>> =20
> > > What is there?<BR>> =
>
> > > <BR>> =20
> > > The "sick of it all"=20
> guy,<BR>> > > =
>Tom<BR>> =20
> > > <BR>> =20
> > > PS Midi is still cool. =
>Motu is=20
> not.<BR>> > > =
><BR>> =20
> > <BR>> > -- <BR>> =20
> > Chris Ludwig<BR>> =20
> > ADK<BR>> =
>> =20
> <A href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>
=
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
>gt;<BR>> =20
> > <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
>gt;<BR>> =20
> > <A=20
> href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">www.adkproaudio.com</A> <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">http://www.adkproaudio.com</A>><BR=
>>> =20
> > <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A>><=
>BR>> =20
> > (859) 635-5762<BR>><BR>> -- =
>
> <BR>> Chris Ludwig<BR>> ADK<BR>> <A=20
> href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A> =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
>gt;<BR>> =20
> <A href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">www.adkproaudio.com</A> =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A>><=
>BR>> =20
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I'm SP1 both Paris and Cubase.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44028f33$1@linux...
How many of you guys that are having issues with interfaces
have installed XP Service Pack 2?
The reason I ask is that I upgraded to a new mobo & CPU
recently, and my RME Multiface was working OK until I loaded
Service Pack 2, and now the drivers aren't being recognized at
all, and I'm having difficulty getting it to roll back properly
to the system restore point before SP#2.
Anyone else experiencing driver issues with SP2, or could it be
something else completely?
Neil
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rick,
>Are you using the M-audio 8x8 with XP?
>I am reading about just as many unhappy customers
>using this box as the Motu.
>
>I'd hate to return one problem for another...
>Tom
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
>news:4402008b@linux...
> M-Audio is first on the list of two then...
>
> Thanks you guys.
> Tom
>
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com...
> "I want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but i've =
not =3D
>had
> any problems with the m-audio stuff.
>
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" =3D
><arpegio@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm trying to avoid drivers at all costs.
> >Midi in/out sounds far more stable to me.
> >I want a stand alone box.
> >
> >USB/MIDI =3D3D Extra unknown sysex data
> > Computer crashes
> > Smoked hardware
> > Midi Communication loss
> > 7 days of lost revenue
> >
> >or is that just Motu?
> >
> >
> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:44015426@linux...
> > Hi Tom,
> > The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The Emagic PC =
driver=3D20
> > development/support is non existent.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > > No midi on the Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as
> > > is the whole computer during the summer. I plan
> > > to get an RME with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will
> > > still need the 8x8 though.
> > > =3D20
> > > It's between emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or
> > > Edirol UM 880.
> > > =3D20
> > > Anyone like these?
> > > Tom
> > > =3D20
> > > =3D20
> > >=3D20
> > > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> > > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>> wrote in message =3D
>news:44008766@linux...
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has =
=3D
>always worked for
> > > me as well as the Edirol stuff.
> > > Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't =
find
=3D
>a mention
> > > which it is you have.
> > > Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on board USB =
ports!!
> > >=3D20
> > > Chris
> > >=3D20
> > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > >=3D20
> > > > This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly =
=3D
>well
> > > > versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less =
=3D
>pleasant
> > > > than my first day with multi-timberal synths, =3D
>controllers, editors,
> > > > computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer =
and
> > > > no information to start with.
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Problem #1:
> > > > After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
> > > > to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch =
=3D
>bay
> > > > and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black =
=3D
>screen
> > > > I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of =
=3D
>Amiga)
> > > > to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =
=3D
>away,they
> > > > just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex =
messages
=3D
>that made
> > > > no sense. It would work at editing the synths but =
=3D
>irrelevant data
> > > > was constantly being seen to the program. I =3D
>disconnected all midi
> > > > connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data =
=3D
>was being
> > > seen.
> > > > Cubase wasn't open. I have =
not
=3D
>been beaten.
> > > >=3D20
> > > > I decided to try my original concept of using this =
Motu
=3D
>8x8
> > > > as a stand alone and program a few presets, =
disconnect
> > > > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the
> > > > old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
> > > > Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
> > > > to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so =
I
=3D
>thought.
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... =
I =3D
>loaded what
> > > > I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They =
=3D
>were for
> > > the com port.
> > > > Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. =
I
=3D
>bring
> > > > them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks =
they
=3D
>are
> > > > the exact same drivers that were already in there for =
=3D
>the 8x8. Well
> > > > the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd =
=3D
>'remove'
> > > > then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the =3D
>reinstall, the
> > > > directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and =
=3D
>Windows should
> > > > recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was =
=3D
>recognized
> > > was the
> > > > smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two =
=3D
>computers to
> > > > find out that the green FastLane smoked!
> > > > This is the final straw.
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
> > > > I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down =
the
=3D
>USB
> > > > line somehow.
> > > >=3D20
> > > > I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand =
=3D
>alone 8x8
> > > > that works and merges without Fn drivers.
> > > > What is there?
> > > >=3D20
> > > > The "sick of it all" guy,
> > > > Tom
> > > >=3D20
> > > > PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
> > > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > > --=3D20
> > > Chris Ludwig
> > > ADK
> > > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com>
> > > <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > > (859) 635-5762
> >
> > --=3D20
> > Chris Ludwig
> > ADK
> > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > (859) 635-5762
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rick,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Are you using the M-audio 8x8 =
with =3D
>XP?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am reading about just as many =
=3D
>unhappy=3D20
>customers</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>using this box as the =3D
>Motu.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'd hate to return one problem =
for=3D20
>another...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> <A href=3D3D"news:4402008b@linux">news:4402008b@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>M-Audio is first on the list =
of two=3D20
> then...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks you guys.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
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> <DIV>"rick" <<A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =3D
>wrote in=3D20
> message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com">news:nc0302h5=
97i=3D
>7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>"I=3D20
> want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but =3D
>i've not=3D20
> had<BR>any problems with the m-audio stuff.<BR><BR>On Sun, 26 Feb =
=3D
>2006=3D20
> 02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>wrote:=
=3D
><BR><BR>>I'm=3D20
> trying to avoid drivers at all costs.<BR>>Midi in/out sounds far =
=3D
>more=3D20
> stable to me.<BR>>I want a stand alone =3D
>box.<BR>><BR>>USB/MIDI=3D20
> =3D3D Extra unknown sysex=3D20
> =3D
>data<BR>> &=3D
>nbsp; =3D20
> Computer=3D20
> =3D
>crashes<BR>> &nbs=3D
>p; =3D20
> Smoked=3D20
> =3D
>hardware<BR>> &nb=3D
>sp; =3D20
> Midi Communication=3D20
> =3D
>loss<BR>> &=3D
>nbsp; =3D20
> 7 days of lost revenue<BR>><BR>>or is that just=3D20
> Motu?<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=3D20
> =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
=3D
>wrote in=3D20
> message <A=3D20
> =3D
>href=3D3D"news:44015426@linux">news:44015426@linux</A>...<BR>> Hi =3D
>
> Tom,<BR>> The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The =3D
>Emagic PC=3D20
> driver <BR>> development/support is non=3D20
> existent.<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D
>Chris<BR>><BR>><BR>> =3D20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> > Chris,<BR>> > No =3D
>midi on the=3D20
> Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as<BR>> > is the =3D
>whole=3D20
> computer during the summer. I plan<BR>> > to get =3D
>an RME=3D20
> with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will<BR>> > still =3D
>need=3D20
> the 8x8 though.<BR>> > <BR>> > It's =3D
>between=3D20
> emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or<BR>> > Edirol UM=3D20
> 880.<BR>> > <BR>> > Anyone like=3D20
> these?<BR>> > Tom<BR>> > =3D
><BR>> =3D20
> > <BR>> > <BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A><BR>>=
=3D
> =3D20
> > <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</=
A>&=3D
>gt;>=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
>href=3D3D"news:44008766@linux">news:44008766@linux</A>...<BR>> =3D20
> > Hi Tom,<BR>> =3D20
> > Sadly a common MOTU experience. The =3D
>M-Audio=3D20
> stuff has always worked for<BR>> =3D
>> me as=3D20
> well as the Edirol stuff.<BR>> > =3D
>Does=3D20
> your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find a=3D20
> mention<BR>> > which it is you=3D20
> have.<BR>> > Hopefully the MOTU =3D
>didn't=3D20
> damage your on board USB ports!!<BR>> > <BR>> =3D20
> > Chris<BR>> > <BR>> =3D
>
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> >=3D20
> <BR>> > > This is after =3D
>over a=3D20
> week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well<BR>> =3D20
> > > versed with midi as a =3D
>whole. =3D20
> This has been far less pleasant<BR>> =3D20
> > > than my first day with=3D20
> multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,<BR>> =3D20
> > > computers, midi merging, =3D
>SMPTE to=3D20
> Midi Song Pointer and<BR>> =3D
>> >=3D20
> no information to start with.<BR>> =3D20
> > > <BR>> =3D20
> > > Problem #1:<BR>> =3D20
> > > After not being able to =3D
>transmit=3D20
> sysex from my Amiga<BR>> > =3D
>> to=3D20
> my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay<BR>> =3D
>
> > > and crashing Windows into an =3D
>auto=3D20
> restart from black screen<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> > I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of=3D20
> Amiga)<BR>> > > to send =3D
>this=3D20
> sysex data. Well the problems didn't go =3D
>away,they<BR>> =3D20
> > > just changed. FM Alive =3D
>was=3D20
> getting long sysex messages that made<BR>> =3D20
> > > no sense. It would =3D
>work at=3D20
> editing the synths but irrelevant data<BR>> =3D20
> > > was constantly being seen to =3D
>the=3D20
> program. I disconnected all midi<BR>> =3D20
> > > connections from the Motu =3D
>8x8 and=3D20
> STILL USB-MIDI data was being<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> seen.<BR>> > > Cubase =3D
>wasn't=3D20
> =3D
>open. &n=3D
>bsp; &nb=3D
>sp; =3D20
> I have not been beaten.<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> > <BR>> > > I =3D
>decided to try=3D20
> my original concept of using this Motu 8x8<BR>> =3D20
> > > as a stand alone and program =3D
>a few=3D20
> presets, disconnect<BR>> > =3D
>>=3D20
> the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the<BR>> =3D20
> > > old fashioned way. =3D
>Midi in/out=3D20
> of Cubase through<BR>> > =3D
>>=3D20
> Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed<BR>> =3D20
> > > to all ins/outs of hardware=3D20
> synths. Piece of cake so I thought.<BR>> =3D20
> > > <BR>> =3D20
> > > Now to dig up the =3D
>drivers for=3D20
> the FastLane again... I loaded what<BR>> =3D20
> > > I thought were the right =3D
>ones but=3D20
> they weren't. They were for<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> the com port.<BR>> > > =3D
>Okay, so=3D20
> I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I =3D
>bring<BR>> =3D20
> > > them into the computer to =3D
>realize=3D20
> minus Clockworks they are<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> > the exact same drivers that were already in there for the =3D
>8x8. =3D20
> Well<BR>> > > the 8x8 =3D
>wasn't=3D20
> working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'<BR>> =3D20
> > > then 'reinstall' them just =3D
>to be=3D20
> safe. After the reinstall, the<BR>> =3D20
> > > directions are to plug in =3D
>the device=3D20
> (USB cable) and Windows should<BR>> =3D20
> > > recognize the new =3D
>hardware. =3D20
> The only thing that was recognized<BR>> =3D20
> > was the<BR>> =3D20
> > > smell of burning =3D
>components. I=3D20
> quickly shut down two computers to<BR>> =3D20
> > > find out that the green =3D
>FastLane=3D20
> smoked!<BR>> > > This =3D
>is the=3D20
> final straw.<BR>> > >=3D20
> <BR>> > > Drivers from =3D
>Motu are=3D20
> flakey as hell.<BR>> > =3D
>> I=3D20
> swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the =3D
>USB<BR>> =3D20
> > > line somehow.<BR>> =3D20
> > > <BR>> =3D20
> > > I now need a new small =3D
>in/out box=3D20
> (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> > that works and merges without Fn drivers.<BR>> =3D20
> > > What is there?<BR>> =3D
>
> > > <BR>> =3D20
> > > The "sick of it all"=3D20
> guy,<BR>> > > =3D
>Tom<BR>> =3D20
> > > <BR>> =3D20
> > > PS Midi is still cool. =3D
>Motu is=3D20
> not.<BR>> > > =3D
><BR>> =3D20
> > <BR>> > -- <BR>> =3D20
> > Chris Ludwig<BR>> =3D20
> > ADK<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> <A =
href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>
=3D
><<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</=
A>&=3D
>gt;<BR>> =3D20
> > <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</=
A>&=3D
>gt;<BR>> =3D20
> > <A=3D20
> href=3D3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">www.adkproaudio.com</A> =
<<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">http://www.adkproaudio.com</A>><BR=
=3D
>>> =3D20
> > <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A>><=
=3D
>BR>> =3D20
> > (859) 635-5762<BR>><BR>> -- =3D
>
> <BR>> Chris Ludwig<BR>> ADK<BR>> <A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A> =3D
><<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</=
A>&=3D
>gt;<BR>> =3D20
> <A href=3D3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">www.adkproaudio.com</A> =
=3D
><<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A>><=
=3D
>BR>> =3D20
> (859) 635-5762<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44028f33$1@linux">news:44028f33$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>How =
many of=20
you guys that are having issues with interfaces<BR>have installed XP =
Service=20
Pack 2?<BR><BR>The reason I ask is that I upgraded to a new mobo & =
CPU<BR>recently, and my RME Multiface was working OK until I =
loaded<BR>Service=20
Pack 2, and now the drivers aren't being recognized at<BR>all, and I'm =
having=20
difficulty getting it to roll back properly<BR>to the system restore =
point=20
before SP#2.<BR><BR>Anyone else experiencing driver issues with SP2, =
or could=20
it be<BR>something else completely?<BR><BR>Neil<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Rick,<BR>>Are you using the M-audio =
8x8 with=20
XP?<BR>>I am reading about just as many unhappy =
customers<BR>>using this=20
box as the Motu.<BR>><BR>>I'd hate to return one problem for=20
another...<BR>>Tom<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:4402008b@linux...<BR>> M-Audio is first on =
the list of=20
two then...<BR>><BR>> Thanks you guys.<BR>> =20
Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> "rick" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:parnell68@hotmail.com">parnell68@hotmail.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message=20
=
=3D<BR>>news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com...<BR>>&nbs=
p; =20
"I want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but =
i've not=20
=3D<BR>>had<BR>> any problems with the m-audio =
stuff.<BR>><BR>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:44:36 =
-0500,=20
"Tom Bruhl" =3D<BR>><<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>><BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >I'm trying to avoid =
drivers at=20
all costs.<BR>> >Midi in/out sounds far more =
stable to=20
me.<BR>> >I want a stand alone=20
box.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>USB/MIDI=20
=3D3D Extra unknown sysex data<BR>> =20
=
> &a mp;nbsp; &a mp;nb=
sp; &nb sp;=20
Computer crashes<BR>> =20
=
> &a mp;nbsp; &a mp;nb=
sp; &nb sp;=20
Smoked hardware<BR>> =20
=
> &a mp;nbsp; &a mp;nb=
sp; &nb sp;=20
Midi Communication loss<BR>> =20
=
> &a mp;nbsp; &a mp;nb=
sp; &nb sp;=20
7 days of lost revenue<BR>> =20
><BR>> >or is that just=20
Motu?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> > "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D<BR>>news:44015426@linux...<BR>> =
> =20
Hi Tom,<BR>> > The would shoot for the =
M-Audio=20
or Edirol. The Emagic PC driver=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
development/support is non existent.<BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
Chris<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> > Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> > >=20
Chris,<BR>> > > No midi on the Delta =
66 but=20
that's soon to be gone as<BR>> > > is =
the=20
whole computer during the summer. I =
plan<BR>> =20
> > to get an RME with ADAT and midi interfaces. I=20
will<BR>> > > still need the 8x8=20
though.<BR>> > >=20
=3D20<BR>> > > It's between emagic =
unitor 8,=20
MidiSport 8x8 or<BR>> > > Edirol UM=20
880.<BR>> > > =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> > Anyone like these?<BR>> =
> >=20
Tom<BR>> > > =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =3D20<BR>> > =20
>=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A><BR>>=
=20
> > <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
gt;>=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:44008766@linux...<BR>> =20
> > Hi =
Tom,<BR>> =20
> > Sadly a common MOTU =
experience. The=20
M-Audio stuff has =3D<BR>>always worked =
for<BR>> =20
> > me as well as the Edirol=20
stuff.<BR>> > =
> Does=20
your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't find<BR>=3D<BR>>a =
mention<BR>> > =
> =20
which it is you have.<BR>> > =20
> Hopefully the MOTU didn't damage your on =
board=20
USB ports!!<BR>> > =20
>=3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
Chris<BR>> > =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> > =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > This is after over =
a week=20
of Midi Hell. I am fairly =
=3D<BR>>well<BR>> =20
> > > versed with midi as =
a=20
whole. This has been far less=20
=3D<BR>>pleasant<BR>> > =20
> > than my first day with =
multi-timberal=20
synths, =3D<BR>>controllers, editors,<BR>> =
> =20
> > computers, midi merging, SMPTE =
to Midi=20
Song Pointer and<BR>> > =20
> > no information to start=20
with.<BR>> > =
> =2 0
>=3D20<BR>> > =20
> > Problem =
#1:<BR>> =20
> > > After not being =
able to=20
transmit sysex from my Amiga<BR>> > =20
> > to my TX7s without it 'taking =
out' the=20
Motu 8x8 patch =3D<BR>>bay<BR>> > =20
> > and crashing Windows into an =
auto=20
restart from black =3D<BR>>screen<BR>> =
> =20
> > I loaded FM Alive. This =
allows=20
the PC (instead of =3D<BR>>Amiga)<BR>> =
> =20
> > to send this sysex data. =
Well=20
the problems didn't go =3D<BR>>away,they<BR>> =
> =20
> > just changed. FM Alive =
was=20
getting long sysex messages<BR>=3D<BR>>that =
made<BR>> =20
> > > no sense. It =
would=20
work at editing the synths but =3D<BR>>irrelevant=20
data<BR>> > =
> =2 0
> was constantly being seen to the program. I =
=3D<BR>>disconnected=20
all midi<BR>> > =20
> > connections from the Motu 8x8 =
and=20
STILL USB-MIDI data =3D<BR>>was being<BR>> =
> =20
> seen.<BR>> =
> =20
> > Cubase wasn't=20
=
open. & nbsp; & n=
bsp; &n bsp; &n b=
sp; =20
I have not<BR>=3D<BR>>been beaten.<BR>> =
> =20
> >=3D20<BR>> =
> > > I decided to try my =
original concept of using this =
Motu<BR>=3D<BR>>8x8<BR>> =20
> > > as a stand alone =
and=20
program a few presets, disconnect<BR>> > =
> > the USB, reinstall my Fastlane =
2x2 and=20
hook it up the<BR>> > =20
> > old fashioned way. Midi =
in/out=20
of Cubase through<BR>> > =20
> > Fastlane to one input/output =
of Motu=20
8x8 then routed<BR>> > =20
> > to all ins/outs of hardware=20
synths. Piece of cake so=20
I<BR>=3D<BR>>thought.<BR>> > =20
> >=3D20<BR>> =
> > > Now to dig up =
the=20
drivers for the FastLane again... I =3D<BR>>loaded=20
what<BR>> > =
> =2 0
> I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They =
=3D<BR>>were=20
for<BR>> > > =
the com=20
port.<BR>> > =
> =2 0
> Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. =20
I<BR>=3D<BR>>bring<BR>> > =20
> > them into the computer to =
realize=20
minus Clockworks they<BR>=3D<BR>>are<BR>> =
> =20
> > the exact same drivers that =
were=20
already in there for =3D<BR>>the 8x8. =
Well<BR>> =20
> > > the 8x8 wasn't =
working=20
flawlessly so I thought I'd =
=3D<BR>>'remove'<BR>> =20
> > > then 'reinstall' =
them just=20
to be safe. After the =3D<BR>>reinstall, =
the<BR>> =20
> > > directions are to
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t;
> > > (859) 635-5762
> >
> > --
> > Chris Ludwig
> > ADK
> > chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> > www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> > (859) 635-5762LaMont...dude...are you trying to make me feel good about myself...you
rock!!!
On 27 Feb 2006 00:09:31 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Man,
>I thought you were talking about running Paris on your new Mac.
>Of cousre Logic 7x works with the G5(s).Duhh :)
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>>
>>Do tell Rick..We are dying to know..
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
>>>
>>>
>>Hey Mike! I would think about building an isolation box. Check out the Paris
Q&A page for some ideas. I was thinking about building a box and racking
my PC and placing my mac below. On the fan replacement side you might want
to look at Stealth but, I don't know if they will work with a Mac.
James
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I'm running an old Power PC UMax SuperMac S900 and a new-to-me G4. The
G4
>has a 1.7 Ghz Sonnet Encore ST G4 upgrade. I moved into a very small place,
>so the studio is (for now) stuck in a small bedroom. No machine room, not
>even a closet to stick the 'putes in. I'm thinking about building a big
box
>out of thick dense foam wall board, but I'm thinking some quieter chassis
>fans would help too. I googled "super quiet fans," but very little popped
>up. Anybody out there found a useful solution?
>
>Thanks.
>MR
>
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Rick,
As Mr. Davis (not Sammy) would say:
"You're freakin' me out..."
Two comps both connected via USB? Hubs are great huh?
I'm spooked but it's good that you got that happening.
I think the Motu Clockworks software is the problem
at this end. Now that it's programmed I won't let it see
the software. I know many are happy with Motu products.
I am so disgusted with drivers, incompatibility and bugs
that I am less patient than I used to be. Most hardware that
is software driven (internally) is usually very stable if not=20
missing a few features. I'd prefer stability anytime.
T.
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:p4j502po6jf055k5ue2gv7fqhfbh5pj3kr@4ax.com...
no, i'm using the 4x4 for the m24 controller (3 I/O's) and one for the
keystation. actually it's connected to both the mac and a pc via usb
to allow sharing of hardware.
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:02:13 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Rick,
>Are you using the M-audio 8x8 with XP?
>I am reading about just as many unhappy customers
>using this box as the Motu.
>
>I'd hate to return one problem for another...
>Tom
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4402008b@linux...
> M-Audio is first on the list of two then...
>
> Thanks you guys.
> Tom
>
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:nc0302h597i7bptq7jeq5ca7h4j9o2j9r8@4ax.com...
> "I want a stand alone box." they still have drivers but i've =
not had
> any problems with the m-audio stuff.
>
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:44:36 -0500, "Tom Bruhl" =
<arpegio@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm trying to avoid drivers at all costs.
> >Midi in/out sounds far more stable to me.
> >I want a stand alone box.
> >
> >USB/MIDI =3D Extra unknown sysex data
> > Computer crashes
> > Smoked hardware
> > Midi Communication loss
> > 7 days of lost revenue
> >
> >or is that just Motu?
> >
> >
> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message =
news:44015426@linux...
> > Hi Tom,
> > The would shoot for the M-Audio or Edirol. The Emagic PC =
driver=20
> > development/support is non existent.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > Chris,
> > > No midi on the Delta 66 but that's soon to be gone as
> > > is the whole computer during the summer. I plan
> > > to get an RME with ADAT and midi interfaces. I will
> > > still need the 8x8 though.
> > > =20
> > > It's between emagic unitor 8, MidiSport 8x8 or
> > > Edirol UM 880.
> > > =20
> > > Anyone like these?
> > > Tom
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> > > <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>> wrote in message =
news:44008766@linux...
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > Sadly a common MOTU experience. The M-Audio stuff has =
always worked for
> > > me as well as the Edirol stuff.
> > > Does your sound card have midi ports on it? I couldn't =
find a mention
> > > which it is you have.
> > >
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563f@linux" target="_blank">4402563f@linux">news:4402563f@linux</A>...</DIV>Yep. =
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r
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The hardware and/or the hardware controllers for the adat card.
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:4403989e$1@linux...
>>
>> Aaron, what are you talking about dude...what's questionable?
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>My guess would be er, ... questionable.. hardware or hardware routines.
>> The
>>>only quasi-reliable Adat machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface 16
bit
>>
>>>machines. Blackface and XT never seemed to lock up right (or, more
>>>correctly - they 'locked up' alright, causing lots of power down/reboot
>>
>>>situations), and the LT was a nightmare at Tisway. Ditto with a coupla
my
>>
>>>friends machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP thing
at
>>
>>>all, rather a Paris issue. Losing the ability to sync at all was something
>>
>>>that XP beta drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty shaky
to
>>
>>>begin with IMO. It is good to know though that you are seeing sync from
>> the
>>>adat card 9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to extract/sync.
>>>Thanks, dude!
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:440359b0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't
>>>> hooking
>>>> it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
>>>> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, but when
>> I
>>>> had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then converted to
>> MTC
>>>> that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rod,
>>>>>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>>>>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>>>>>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>>>>>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>>>>
>>>>>David,
>>>>>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>>>>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>>>>>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>>>>>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>>>>>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =20
>>>>>
>>>>>That may have been a dream.
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
>>>>>news:440333cd$1@linux...
>>>>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE
>>>> =
>>>>>
>>>>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be=20
>>>>> rock solid.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>>>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>>>>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>>>>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>>>>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>>>>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>>>>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>>>>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>>>>> > =20
>>>>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.
>>>>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>>>>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE work
>>>>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)
>>>>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is capable
>>>>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>>>>> > =20
>>>>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>>>>> > =20
>>>>> > All clocked out,
>>>>> > Tom
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can do either? Once the RME =
>>>>>card is=20
>>>>>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have the option of ADAT sync but I
=
>>>>>wasn't sure=20
>>>>>that</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be =
>>>>>ready for=20
>>>>>that when the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time comes. Sounds like the best=20
>>>>>lock.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along with
>>>> =
>>>>>my Amiga so=20
>>>>>the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default =
>>>>>projects. I=20
>>>>>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how to implement that into Cubase in
>> =
>>>>>their manual=20
>>>>>though.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any tips on setting that up? I =
>>>>>heard=20
>>>>>something about a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =
>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That may have been a =
>>>>>dream.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
>>>>>href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
>>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>>> =
>>>>>href=3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
>>>>>ly=20
>>>>> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE <BR>files
>>>> =
>>>>>and feed=20
>>>>> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be <BR>rock=20
>>>>> solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =
>>>>>Cubase 90%=20
>>>>> of the time for MIDI only<BR>> do I need to worry about sample=20
>>>>> accuracy? I don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up" =
>>>>>on=20
>>>>> another pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or =
>>>>>MTC.<BR>>=20
>>>>> MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> but =
>>>>>I'm=20
>>>>> already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit<BR>> in =
>>>>>terms of=20
>>>>> lock time using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>> <BR>> Cubase seems =
>>>>>like it=20
>>>>> will be okay using the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>> That seems to =
>>>>>generate=20
>>>>> MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.<BR>> Is this better than going =
>>>>>through=20
>>>>> the hoops to make SMPTE work<BR>> into Cubase instead? Is it =
>>>>>best to=20
>>>>> go MTC (paris) to MTC (Cubase)<BR>
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the [message #63545 is a reply to message #63541] |
Sat, 21 January 2006 16:22 |
Dedric Terry
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>>>>>shenanigans=20
>>>>> the Motu piece is capable<BR>> of? This would mean another =
>>>>>midi box=20
>>>>> in the Cubase rig.<BR>> <BR>> I haven't slept for a long=20
>>>>> time.<BR>> <BR>> All clocked out,<BR>>=20
>>>>>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Rod,
All is good here using SMPTE from Paris to Motu Midi Express XT
for Cubase MTC. Almost instant lock up. Amiga was about as good...
I'm gonna miss the old girl.
The TX7 freeware editor isn't so hot and likes to rock the Motu's boat.
I might be investing in FM7 for stability's sake. $279 ouch.
Thanks for all the help. Cubase is working while minimized too. =20
Thanks Neil.
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4403a7b7$1@linux...
gotcha
r
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The hardware and/or the hardware controllers for the adat card.
>AA
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message=20
>news:4403989e$1@linux...
>>
>> Aaron, what are you talking about dude...what's questionable?
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>My guess would be er, ... questionable.. hardware or hardware =
routines.
>> The
>>>only quasi-reliable Adat machine sync I saw was the Adat Silverface =
16
bit
>>
>>>machines. Blackface and XT never seemed to lock up right (or, more
>>>correctly - they 'locked up' alright, causing lots of power =
down/reboot
>>
>>>situations), and the LT was a nightmare at Tisway. Ditto with a =
coupla
my
>>
>>>friends machines and my own digs. I don't believe this is an XP =
thing
at
>>
>>>all, rather a Paris issue. Losing the ability to sync at all was =
something
>>
>>>that XP beta drivers brought to the table, but they were pretty =
shaky
to
>>
>>>begin with IMO. It is good to know though that you are seeing sync =
from
>> the
>>>adat card 9 pin in XP, I may someday need that info to =
extract/sync.
>>>Thanks, dude!
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:440359b0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, adat 9 pin sync works in XP just fine, as long as you aren't =
>>>> hooking
>>>> it up to an ACTUAL ADAT. Go figure.
>>>> As far as SMPTE goes, I havn't tried that since I got the RME, =
but when
>> I
>>>> had the Dakota, the setting was in there (SMPTE in, then =
converted to
>> MTC
>>>> that cubase could read)you might check that out also.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rod,
>>>>>So I can do either? Once the RME card is installed I'll
>>>>>have the option of ADAT sync but I wasn't sure that
>>>>>worked from Paris in XP. I'll be ready for that when the
>>>>>time comes. Sounds like the best lock.
>>>>>
>>>>>David,
>>>>>I have been using SMPTE all along with my Amiga so the
>>>>>SMPTE stripe lives in my default projects. I haven't seen
>>>>>how to implement that into Cubase in their manual though.
>>>>>Any tips on setting that up? I heard something about a
>>>>>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =3D20
>>>>>
>>>>>That may have been a dream.
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>>>news:440333cd$1@linux...
>>>>> Personally speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time =
locked SMPTE
>>>> =3D
>>>>>
>>>>> files and feed LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It =
will be=3D20
>>>>> rock solid.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>>>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of the time for MIDI only
>>>>> > do I need to worry about sample accuracy? I don't
>>>>> > see drum tracks needing to "line up" on another pass.
>>>>> > I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or MTC.
>>>>> > MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)
>>>>> > but I'm already using 5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit
>>>>> > in terms of lock time using MTC over SMPTE?
>>>>> > =3D20
>>>>> > Cubase seems like it will be okay using the Motu Midi Express =
XT.
>>>>> > That seems to generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's sake.
>>>>> > Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE =
work
>>>>> > into Cubase instead? Is it best to go MTC (paris) to MTC =
(Cubase)
>>>>> > and bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is =
capable
>>>>> > of? This would mean another midi box in the Cubase rig.
>>>>> > =3D20
>>>>> > I haven't slept for a long time.
>>>>> > =3D20
>>>>> > All clocked out,
>>>>> > Tom
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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>>>>><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>So I can do either? Once the =
RME =3D
>>>>>card is=3D20
>>>>>installed I'll</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>have the option of ADAT sync =
but I
=3D
>>>>>wasn't sure=3D20
>>>>>that</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>worked from Paris in XP. =
I'll be =3D
>>>>>ready for=3D20
>>>>>that when the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time comes. Sounds like the =
best=3D20
>>>>>lock.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have been using SMPTE all =
along with
>>>> =3D
>>>>>my Amiga so=3D20
>>>>>the</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my =
default =3D
>>>>>projects. I=3D20
>>>>>haven't seen</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>how to implement that into =
Cubase in
>> =3D
>>>>>their manual=3D20
>>>>>though.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any tips on setting that up? =
I =3D
>>>>>heard=3D20
>>>>>something about a</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase???? =
=3D
>>>>></FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>That may have been a =3D
>>>>>dream.</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>>>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =3D
>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=3D20
>>>>> wrote in message <A=3D20
>>>>> =3D
=
>>>>>href=3D3D"news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>P=
ersonal=3D
>>>>>ly=3D20
>>>>> speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE =
<BR>files
>>>> =3D
>>>>>and feed=3D20
>>>>> LTC to the Express for Cubase to follow. It will be =
<BR>rock=3D20
>>>>> solid.<BR>&
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dream.<BR>>>>>>Tom<BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>=
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"EK Sound" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
wrote in message=20
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=3D<BR>>>>>>news:440333cd$1@linux...<BR>>>>>&g=
t; =20
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feed LTC to=20
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solid.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> =20
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wrote:<BR>>>>>> > If I'm using Cubase 90% of =
the time=20
for MIDI only<BR>>>>>> > do I need to worry =
about=20
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drum=20
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pass.<BR>>>>>> =20
> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or=20
MTC.<BR>>>>>> > MTC means another IRQ for the =
MIDI=20
card(I have a Magma)<BR>>>>>> > but I'm =
already using=20
5 EDS and a UAD. Is there a =
benefit<BR>>>>>> >=20
in terms of lock time using MTC over =
SMPTE?<BR>>>>>> >=20
=3D20<BR>>>>>> > Cubase seems like it will be =
okay using=20
the Motu Midi Express XT.<BR>>>>>> > That =
seems to=20
generate MTC from SMPTE for Cubase's =
sake.<BR>>>>>> >=20
Is this better than going through the hoops to make SMPTE=20
work<BR>>>>>> > into Cubase instead? Is =
it best=20
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and=20
bypass the internal USB shenanigans the Motu piece is=20
capable<BR>>>>>> > of? This would mean =
another=20
midi box in the Cubase rig.<BR>>>>>> >=20
=3D20<BR>>>>>> > I haven't slept for a long=20
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face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time comes. Sounds like the=20
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best=3D20<BR> >>>>>lock.</FONT&a mp;gt;</DIV> <BR>>&g=
t;>>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> >>>>><DIV>& amp;lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
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size=3D3D2>David,</FONT></DIV&am p;gt; <BR>>>>>><=
DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have been using SMPTE all along=20
with<BR>>>>> =3D<BR>>>>>>my Amiga=20
=
so=3D20<BR> >>>>>the</FONT& ;gt;</DIV> <BR>>>&g=
t;>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>SMPTE stripe lives in my default=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>projects. =
I=3D20<BR>>>>>>haven't=20
=
seen</FONT></DIV><BR> >>>>><DIV>& amp;lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>how to implement that into Cubase =
in<BR>>>=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>their=20
=
manual=3D20<BR> >>>>>though.</FONT ></DIV> <BR>&g=
t;>>>><DIV>< ;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any tips on setting that up? I=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>heard=3D20<BR >>>>>>something =
about=20
a</FONT></DIV><BR> >>>>><DIV>& amp;lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>SMPTE plugin for Cubase????=20
=
=3D<BR> >>>>></FONT> ;</DIV> <BR>>>>>&=
gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> >>>>><DIV>& amp;lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>That may have been a=20
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=3D<BR> >>>>>dream.</FONT& amp;gt;</DIV> <BR>>>>=
;>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
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size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>>>>><DIV=
><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> >>>>><DIV>& amp;lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> >>>>><DIV>& amp;lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
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</DIV><BR> >>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3 D20 <BR>>>>&g=
t;>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
0px"><BR>>>>>> <DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
=3D<BR>>>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=3D20'>mailto:askme=
@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>>>&g=
t;> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>>>>>> =20
=3D<BR>>>>>>href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Personal=
'>news:440333cd$1@linux">news:440333cd$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
;Personal</A>=3D<BR>>>>>>ly=3D20 <BR>>>>>>&n=
bsp;=20
speaking, I would get a hold of the Paris time locked SMPTE=20
<BR>files<BR>>>>> =3D<BR>>>>>>and=20
feed=3D20<BR>>>>>> LTC to the Express for Cubase =
to follow.=20
It will be <BR>rock=3D20<BR>>>>>> =20
solid.<BR><BR>David.<BR&a mp;gt;<BR>Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> If I'm using =3D<BR>>>>>>Cubase=20
90%=3D20<BR>>>>>> of the time for MIDI =
only<BR>>=20
do I need to worry about sample=3D20<BR>>>>>> =
accuracy? I=20
don't<BR>> see drum tracks needing to "line up"=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>on=3D20<BR >>>>>> =
another=20
pass.<BR>> I am using Paris XP and can use SMPTE or=20
=
=3D<BR> >>>>>MTC.<BR&g t;>=3D20 <BR>>>>>>=
; =20
MTC means another IRQ for the MIDI card(I have a Magma)<BR>> =
but=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>I'm=3D20<BR >>>>>> =
already using 5=20
EDS and a UAD. Is there a benefit<BR>> in=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>terms of=3D20<BR>>>>>> =
lock time=20
using MTC over SMPTE?<BR>> <BR>> Cubase seems=20
=3D<BR>>>>>>like it=3D20<BR>>>>>> =
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| Re: OT: Namm news!!!! Hot Off the Press ..Another Piece to the [message #63556 is a reply to message #63552] |
Sat, 21 January 2006 21:26 |
Michele Hobbs
Messages: 17
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he out the day after the rest of the world got
> in
> there and helped.
>
> Mike (a Canadian)
>
>
> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>>I hear that PARIS 4 is coming out the day after Bush gets smart and we
>>withdraw from Iraq.....
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:r0b102hk0n983rdlnq0147hjfi4f74ij7c@4ax.com...
>>> so it's not just your left and right hands...i feel much better
>>> now...thanks.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:34:31 -0800, TC
>>> <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Oh,
>>> >
>>> >Sorry, Steve actually meant "4", and not "for"..
>>> >
>>> >Damn internet lingo has me so confused sometimes :)
>>> >
>>> >L8R,
>>> >
>>> >TC
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >steve the artguy wrote:
>>> >> "Steve" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Is there a Paris 4 coming out? is there info on it?
>>> >>>Steve
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Steve-
>>> >>
>>> >> i'm tempted to say, yeah, it's out, but there's no info on it, 'cause
>>it
>>> >> won't record any info...
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