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Don't waste your time/money with this [message #78214] Thu, 11 January 2007 20:06 Go to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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n Dimitiros!
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>You remember Wormhole ?
>>>Although there was a great support for us paris users regarding the update
>>>of wormhole I don't think that more than 3-4 of us ,including me, have
>bought
>>>wormhole.
>>>I don't wanna be pushy with your money and urge you to spend them towards
>>>anything for that matter but you understand my position and how we Paris
>>>users show our appreciation to this author of Vertex...
>>>We have to decide if we want some people get involved in developing Paris
>>>any further or let eventually Paris fade away...
>>>I formyself I am here for me and all of you to fight till nothing can
be
>>>done...
>>>I will buy it because ALREADY is a GREAT plugin because you can SOLO a
>bunch
>>>of audio tracks along submixes , mute other and finally be able to do
what
>>>clients sometimes (always ?) ask like can I hear please only the guitars
>>>? or can I hear only main and backing vocals ?
>>>Now add to the above this Latency compensation thing which was based on
>>a
>>>idea of mine with manually giving the latency of a certain plugin and
letting
>>>the rest of audio tracks follow that latency.
>>>
>>>I am signing this:
>>>Dimitrios Bitzenis
>>
>Thanks Don for all your efforts and insight!!!
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c13bd5$1@linux...
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>I guess using the term bass trap to describe the cavity
>> between wall studs
>>>had me confused...I'm sure some frequencies get trapped in
>> there but I doubt it's low end.
>>
>> So....... lessee... a 2'x4' reflector/airspace/insulator can
>> trap low end, but a 2'x'8' or 2'x10' one can't?
>>
>> Got it.
>
>From my understanding of base traps none of those wall cavities sizes will

>absorb low end frequencies because there isn't enough a) volume of true
dead
>air space in the cavity and b) depth in the cavity to attenuate low end

>frequencies.
>
>Remember none of my 2X4 wall or ceiling panels are being used to trap or

>absorb bass - they are basically broadband absorbers for mid range and
I'm
>sure they smooth out the rooms reflections somewhat too.
>
>But when I use a 2x8 panel set across the corner of the room I have created

>a 8 cubic foot (assuming my math is correct) dead air zone behind the corner

>panel
Hmmm.........I'll be hornswaggled!!!!! [message #78218 is a reply to message #78214] Thu, 11 January 2007 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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ng reported that the people who planted the
>>>>>"light brites" had put them up days ago and they weren't being noticed
>>>>>SO
>>>>>they decided to call in a threat to the police. If that story pans out
>>>>>to
>>>>>be true then they are in deep doo doo.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do love Aqua Teen though! hahaha The movie comes out in March.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:71f3s2t7qnib500vkqbduo9g1ahdii4ugu@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>"BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>>>>>>badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>>>>>>that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>>>>>>alert.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
>>>>>>attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>>>>>>placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>>>>>>animated cartoon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>>>>>>possible improvised bombs.
>>>>>>Reuters Pictures
>>>>>>Photo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Editors Choice: Best pictures
>>>>>>from the last 24 hours.
>>>>>>View Slideshow
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>>>>>>rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>>>>>>a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>>>>>>blew it up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>>>>>>found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>>>>>>squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>>>>>>in parts of the city.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>>>>>>wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>>>>>>image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>>>>>>called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
>>>>>>Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"
>>>>>
>
>I am very accustomed to the wind from two great danes. What doesn't kill me
makes me stornger.



"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote in message
news:45c26a86$1@linux...
> Personally, I'd be a little concerned about the source of the wind...
> (especially with two adolescents in the house!!!)
>
> :-)
>
> JH
>
> DJ wrote:
>> the wind speaks to me. It doesn't matter from whence............
>>
>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3vh4s2pdku3qeott2a8vlcfc6e8241mjm8@4ax.com...
>>
>>>you sure you're not just hearing a reflection of blowing your own
>>>nose???
>>>
>>>On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:13:40 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've quit watching TV or reading the paper. I do, however listen for the
>>>>sound of the drums echoing through the canyons at night and the bugling
>>>>of
>>>>the spirit elk. They tell me what I must do.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:k244s2tb3k1jg8qqfekim46dj0r2fidfut@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>>guess i'll have to get cable one of these days...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:25:52 -0600, "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yea, when I first saw one of the devices I thought "IT'S A LIGHT
>>>>>>BRITE!".
>>>>>>That being said it is now being reported that the people who planted
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>"light brites" had put them up days ago and they weren't being noticed
>>>>>>SO
>>>>>>they decided to call in a threat to the police. If that story pans
>>>>>>out to
>>>>>>be true then they are in deep doo doo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do love Aqua Teen though! hahaha The movie comes out in March.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:71f3s2t7qnib500vkqbduo9g1ahdii4ugu@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>>>>>>>badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>>>>>>>that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>>>>>>>alert.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September
>>>>>>>11
>>>>>>>attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>>>>>>>placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>>>>>>>animated cartoon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>>>>>>>possible
Re: Hmmm.........I'll be hornswaggled!!!!! [message #78223 is a reply to message #78218] Fri, 12 January 2007 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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br /> >I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8 years,

>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O, disk

>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives? I've

>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the Seagate

>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
than
>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,

>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It

>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
heck
>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>Richard
>
>
>
>Thanks John,
There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>
> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>
> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>years,
>
>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>>disk
>
>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives? I've
>
>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>Seagate
>
>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
> than
>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,
>
>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>
>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
> heck
>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Hey Jon! There is a Tascam DM-3200 with a FW card about to go on ebay for
$2000.00. It's in Chicago and shipping is $97.00.

here are the links:

http://cgi.ebay.com/TASCAM-DM-3200-Digital-Mixing-Firewire-o ption_W0QQitemZ180080107203QQihZ008QQcategoryZ23785QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://search.ebay.com/Tascam-DM-3200_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactio nZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfromZR9QQ fromZR9QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQ sacatZQ2d1QQsacurZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZTascamQ20DMQ2d3200QQs spagenameZSTRKQ3aMEFSRCHQ3aSRCH

James


"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi LaMont,
>
>Yup, the firewire seems very interesting (32 in/32 out@ 96k) but the MKII's
>not out yet. Apparently some people have tried / are using a firmware updated
>version of the firewire card that was originally intended for the DM-24.
>
>If I do this I will stick to the HD9652 for now.
>
>How dangerous do you think it would be to consider the DM3200 used?.. and
>what do you think it should be worth?
>
>Cheers,
>jj
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Jon,
>>
>>- most DM24 users/owners units have been rock solid
>>- having stated the above, Yamaha Desks are as solid as they come. They
>rarley
>>break down. O2rs(orignals) are still cranking to this day.
>>
>>Have you considerd the Firewire Option? 32/32 ins/outs?
>>
>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks LaMont -
>>>
>>>I had considered keeping some of my Paris rig to use as a glorified mastering
>>>deck. Sounds like that's what you're suggesting here as a possible solution.
>>>
>>>I just finished talking to guy who is selling his 02r96v2 (which I've
now
>>>determined is way out of my price range - even used) and he shared an
absolute
>>>Tascam customer service horror story regarding a DM-24 he owned. 4 bad
>power
>>>supplies, LCD failed, lost studio time (had to ship it back something
like
>>>6 times - from Hawaii!!!!) and Tascam apparently never did make it right
>>>for him.
>>>
>>>Hopefully they got it right with the new boards because the resounding
>impression
>>>I'm getting of Tascam's willingness/ability to stand behind their products
>>>is the only thing causing hesitation for me right now.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Jon
>>>
>>>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hey Jon,
>>>>
>>>>Trust me, the marriage of the Tascam 3200 & Cuabse 4 is a match made
in
>>>heaven.
>>>>You will not miss the Paris sound.
>>>>
>>>>However to not throw away your Paris investment(s), instead of summing
>>out
>>>>of the 3200..you can...
>>>>
>>>>Another way.. 3200 out via SP/Dif. into Paris Mec/442 SP/dif..for just
>>a
>>>>stereo sum .. Again, good sound.
>>>>
>>>>3200 master (analog outs) into Paris MEC/442.. 24bit(input Card)..then
>>24bit
>>>>out card..to master or internal bounce..
>>>>
>>>>You can't loose either way you go.. Grat choice!!
>>>>P.S. Put into an Argosy!!! :)
>>>>take care.
>>>>
>>>>- 3200 out (Adat x 2) 16 lightpipes stems into MEC (with 2 adat cards)..
>>>>For stem mixing. Very cool.. Very good sound. and provides a means of
>Matering
>>>>within Paris.
>>>>
>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a pretty ringing endorsement LaMont!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm definitely leaning towards the 3200 and Cubase 4. The only client
>>in
>>>>>my studio is me and I'm really just trying to get to a simpler workflow
>>>>,for
>>>>>the songwriting end of things, and still achieve quality results at
the
>>>>end
>>>>>of the process.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can you eplain to me in a little more detail how you (and apparently
>BT)
>>>>>would be/are using Paris as the master summing mixer/recorder in this
>>scenario?
>>>>>
>>>>>I've currently got Cubase SX3 lightpiped into Paris via a RME 9652 (
>a
>>>mini-Deej
>>>>>set-up if, you will) but being a guy who only gets to work on my stuff
>>>in
>>>>>the evenings after work or on the weekends, the opportunity for confusion
>>>>>in such a kludge ridden set-up doesn't lend itself to the creative workflow.
>>>>>That's why Cubase and a nice board/control surface appeals. My big dilemma
>>>>>though is that I still absolutely love the way Paris sounds.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, thanks a ton for the input, greatly appreciated! I've got much
>>>to
>>>>>consider.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>jon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Jon, I can chime in here on this question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I often work at a local studio http://www.lamourrecording.com/
>>>>>>which has (2) Yamaha's DM2000. I can't speak highly enough of these
>powerful
>>>>>>beast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Great feel, 96 channels @ 96K
>>>>>>Pro Tools, Neundo/Cubase/Sonar/Logic Controller
>>>>>>Nice Comps/EQs on every channel
>>>>>>(8) SPX-1000's DSP processors (REVerbs, Delays, Chorus.etc)
>>>>>>Some of the sweetest (24) Mic pres you'll find
>>>>>>All in a foot print that keeps the Engineer/Operator right in
>>>>>>front of the mix..There's a ton more features..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had a chance (2years) ago to take the then Tascam 3200 for week session
>>>>>>spin. Due to the fact that no body in our area had a O2r/96, we rented
>>>>>>the tascam.. Man, to my ears and others, the Tascam delivers the goods.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>would have to say that the Tascam 3200 sonics was more "thick" than
>the
>>>>>DM2000.
>>>>>>Different converters and clocks.. But, we mananged to get thru a sesion
>>>>>without
>>>>>>opening the manual!!
>>>>>>You're not going to do that with the Yammys.. he 3200 had full eq and
>>>dynamics
>>>
Re: Don't waste your time/money with this [message #78228 is a reply to message #78214] Fri, 12 January 2007 02:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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wrote:
>>>Morgan,
>>>Is there any possibility of video taping this and posting it to the web?
>> It
>>>would be great to be able to grok Cubase, TCB style.
>>>Regards, MR
>>>
>>>"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:45c29ed1@linux...
>>>> Greetings :)
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday February 6th 7pm
>>>> Steinberg Yamaha
>>>> CUBASE/NUENDO/
>>>> http://www.steinberg.net/24_1.html
>>>> All things VST
>>>> Hosted by CUBASE and Computer GURU Thad Brown
>>>> * The first hour is always reserved for newcomers and beginners
>>>> as always - special pricing for event !
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday February 13th 7pm
>>>> Songwriters Workshop
>>>> This Special workshop is hosted by :
>>>> Seth Lef
Re: Don't waste your time/money with this [message #78232 is a reply to message #78228] Fri, 12 January 2007 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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t;> tom@eastcoastmusicmall.com
>>>>
>>>> Trade in Your Old Gear NOW!! Why not have your old gear help you get
new
>>>> gear?
>>>> Take a look around your house and you'll probably find some instruments,
>>>> components or perhaps an odd drum or cymbal. Chances are you have been
>>>> considering buying a new instrument or finally picking up that new piece
>>>of
>>>> recording gear.
>>>> We're always looking for anything. Bring it in and trade it for
>>>> something new
>>>> or turn it
>>>> into cash. Just come in any time during business hours and it'll be
our
>>>> pleasure to help you.
>>>>
>>>> Morgan Pettinato!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/starr_rd1.htm
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/newstore.htm
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/paris.html
>>>>
>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/pc.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eastcoast Music Mall
>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com
>>>> e-mail
Re: Don't waste your time/money with this [message #78233 is a reply to message #78232] Fri, 12 January 2007 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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ef="mailto:morganp@ntplx.net" target="_blank">morganp@ntplx.net
>>>> 800-901-2001 or 203-748-2799 fax 203-791-2504
>>>> Specializing in Quality gear and
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>>>>
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>>>> Always open 7 days / We ship anywhere
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> audio/multi-media)
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>>
Re: Don't waste your time/money with this [message #78251 is a reply to message #78233] Fri, 12 January 2007 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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you =

have already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your edits are=20
finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne plug.

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Okay then via spdf to Cubase and back then? Realtime in auto mode =
anyway?
> I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase for processing=20
> otherwise huh?
> I think I need another MEC now that I think of it. Good for another =

> ADAT and SPDF
> with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT 20 for the rack =
space...
> Maybe 1.3 will do...
> =20
> I really like realtime everything.
> Poor old analog me
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>> =
wrote in
> message news:45c7a9df@linux...
> My guess is it won't work as well.
>=20
>=20
> "EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote =
in
> message news:45c79b4c@linux...
> >I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in Paris... =
it
> utilizes
> >VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand alone app... =
maybe
> that
> >would be a better bet for you.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> >> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
> >> Is it totally functional except for automation?
> >> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work arounds.
> >> Good to go in Paris?
> >>
> >> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> >> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
> >> Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode. =
Previously,
Re: Don't waste your time/money with this [message #78254 is a reply to message #78251] Fri, 12 January 2007 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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to:askme@nospam.com" target="_blank">askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A> &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>&gt;&gt; =
wrote=20
in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c79b4c@linux">news:45c79b4c@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&gt;I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in Paris...=20
it<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
utilizes<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;VST V2.4&nbsp; =
Melodyne is=20
also available as a stand alone app... =
maybe<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
that<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;would be a better bet =
for=20
you.<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
David.<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; Anybody using =
Melodyne=20
in Paris here?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; Is it =
totally=20
functional except for =
automation?<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;&gt; I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work=20
arounds.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&nbsp; Good to =
go in=20
Paris?<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=2 0
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "EK Sound" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A> &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:a
Re: Hmmm.........I'll be hornswaggled!!!!! [message #78276 is a reply to message #78218] Fri, 12 January 2007 20:29 Go to previous message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot   UNITED STATES
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od quality as it gets?
> Worth the
> > extra cash?
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > > message news:45c7b357@linux...
> > > Just to explain... the Melodyne plugin has to "record" the
> > track from
> > > the host first... in real time. Then you can
> manipulate the
> > sound
> > > during playback. One issue here... if you try to go
> back to
> > the track
> > > (not that you need to) and make additional edits,
> these edits
> > will
> > > have to be recorded into Melodyne again. You would
> lose what
> > work you
> > > have already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your
> edits are
> > > finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne plug.
> > >
> > > David.
> > >
> > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > > Okay then via spdf to Cubase and back then?
> Realtime in auto
> > > mode anyway?
> > > > I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase for
> > processing
> > > > otherwise huh?
> > > > I think I need another MEC now that I think of it.
> Good
> > for another
> > > > ADAT and SPDF
> > > > with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT
> 20 for the
> > > rack space...
> > > > Maybe 1.3 will do...
> > > >
> > > > I really like realtime everything.
> > > > Poor old analog me
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net
> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>
> > <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>
> > > <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>> wrote in
> > > > message news:45c7a9df@linux...
> > > > My guess is it won't work as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > > > message news:45c79b4c@linux...
> > > > >I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would
> work in
> > > Paris... it
> > > > utilizes
> > > > >VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a
> stand alone
> > > app... maybe
> > > > that
> > > > >would be a better bet for you.
> > > > >
> > > > > David.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > > >> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
> > > > >> Is it totally functional except for automation?
> > > > >> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the
> usual work
> > arounds.
> > > > >> Good to go in Paris?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > > <mailto:askme@nospam.com> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > > > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > > > >> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
> > > > >> Autotune 5 now has time locked
> graphical mode.
> > > Previously,
> > > > Autotune
> > > > >> was unable to extract the timebase from the
> > project
> > > (I guess
> > > > DX does
> > > > >> not support this). Now that it is VST, they
> > are able to
> > > > include this.
> > > > >> Previously, you would have to work
> from the
> > exact
> > > same point
> > > > >> everytime... which is why they
> generally recommend
> > > you work
> > > > on one
> > > > >> line at a time, and render each line
> when you have
> > > finished
> > > > tuning.
> > > > >> With version 5, you can work on any
> point in
> > the time
> > > line
> > > > with no
> > > > >> troubles. That being said, Melodyne
> kicks the
> > snot
> > > out of
> > > > Autotune!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> David.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> > > > >> > Haven't tried it but I think only the
> > newest VST
> > > version of
> > > > >> autotune has
> > > > >> > a functional graphical mode.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Chris
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Don Nafe wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Hi guys
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Cubase newbie here
> > > > >> >>
>
Re: Hmmm.........I'll be hornswaggled!!!!! [message #78277 is a reply to message #78276] Fri, 12 January 2007 18:19 Go to previous message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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> > > >> >> just wondering if there's a trick
> to using
> > > graphical mode in
> > > > >> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple
> > vocal track
> > > > staring at
> > > > >> "0" and
> > > > >> >> I see the graph showing up after
> the vocals
> > > > start...about a 1/2
> > > > >> second
> > > > >> >> or so.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Am I missing something here?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> DOn
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
> and you?
> > > > >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > > >Here is a link to some online demos...

http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=256

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:

> Oh it does that too?!!! That sounds even better!
>
> Cool stuff. I'll be checking it out.
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca
> <mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca>> wrote in message
> news:45c7f392@linux...
> I wouldn't say "no artifacts" but the results are really
> good... but I doubt if I would use it to re-pitch or re-time
> a song on an album... just individual tracks. The guy
> giving the demo at NAMM turned a regular 4 on the floor tune
> into a shuffle with it. If you wanted to use it for
> realigning drum tracks ala Beat Detective, the Studio
> version would work best.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > David,
> > Wow! So no artifacts across a whole mix? Can you alter speed
> > without altering pitch? That's the ticket for me.
> >
> > So for effecting vocal channels and possibly a whole mix for tempo
> > with use in Paris and Cubase which version would you suggest?
> > I guess I only need one channel (stereo) if it has to process
> offline
> > all the time.
> > Am I right?
> >
> > Sounds like studio is the full mix version that I'd want huh?
> > Thanks for the info.
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > message news:45c7bfd2$1@linux...
> > It really depends on what you are using it for. The plugin
> has all
> > the standard features, whereas the "essential" and "uno"
> versions only
> > offer manual pitch correction. The Cre8 version is good if
> you want
> > to make backing vocal tracks from a lead vocal, without
> having to have
> > several plugins open at one time. The Studio version is just
> that, a
> > fully featured recording and editing package. The quality is
> the same
> > regardless of the version. The one thing that Studio does
> that the
> > others don't do is manipulating polyphonic files, like
> guitars, keys,
> > or even entire mixes. The time manipulation capabilities on
> a full
> > mix is nothing short of amazing.
> >
> > For most "tuning" uses, the plugin works great.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > David,
> > > So there's no real-time automatic mode? Maybe standalone
> on my
> > Paris comp
> > > is the way to go then. A friend of mine has the full
> blown version
> > > around here.
> > > I'll have to get a demo from him. He loves it with Logic.
> > >
> > > Is the polyphonic version as good quality as it gets?
> Worth the
> > extra cash?
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > > message news:45c7b357@linux...
> > > Just to explain... the Melodyne plugin has to "record" the
> > track from
> > > the host first... in real time. Then you can
> manipulate the
> > sound
> > > during playback. One issue here... if you try to go
> back to
> > the track
> > > (not that you need to) and make additional edits,
> these edits
> > will
> > > have to be recorded into Melodyne again. You would
> lose what
> > work you
> > > have already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your
> edits are
> > > finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne plug.
> > >
> > > David.
> > >
> > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > > Okay then via spdf to Cubase and back then?
> Realtime in auto
> > > mode anyway?
> > > > I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase for
> > processing
> > > > otherwise huh?
> > > > I think I need another MEC now that I think of it.
> Good
> > for another
> > > > ADAT and SPDF
> > > > with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT
> 20 for the
> > > rack space...
> > > > Maybe 1.3 will do...
> > > >
> > > > I really like realtime everything.
> > > > Poor old analog me
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net
> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>
> > <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>
> > > <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>> wrote in
> > > > message news:45c7a9df@linux...
> > > > My guess is it won't work as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com> <
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