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---=_linux44285dfa--The Drumagog plug-in will go in your normal VST Plug-In folder you have
PARIS pointing to. I installed the GOG sound files on an external Firewire
drive the I use for sample storage. It will probably be ok to put the GOG
files on any hard drive, but it would be best to put them on a drive other
than your boot drive or recording drive. Once you open Drumagog, you'll need
to "point" to or "set the path" to the GOG sound files.
Tony
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442847f4$1@linux...
>
> How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
> Steve Cox ProductionsThat's a strong rope! It would be sort of comical if it broke on him though.
Preferably with a video camera running.
Tony
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:44285dfa$1@linux...
>
>Focusrite will officially announce March 29th. $799.00 US is what I saw.
Tony
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4425a04e$1@linux...
> Well, there goes my car repairs.
> Anyone know when it's going to be released to public and if it's Mac/PC
> compatible?
> AA
>
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:4425661e$1@linux...
>>
>> Focusrite Liquid Mix
>>
>> http://www.jrrshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=6087& ;osCsid=601872369631efb3692bb2d31b6b7719
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Shirt says it all... ;o)
Can this be purchased?"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>The Drumagog plug-in will go in your normal VST Plug-In folder you have
>PARIS pointing to. I installed the GOG sound files on an external Firewire
>drive the I use for sample storage. It will probably be ok to put the GOG
>files on any hard drive, but it would be best to put them on a drive other
>than your boot drive or recording drive. Once you open Drumagog, you'll
need
>to "point" to or "set the path" to the GOG sound files.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442847f4$1@linux...
>>
>> How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>> Steve Cox Productions
>
>Yes, but she's very expensive.
Oh, you mean the shirt? ;>)
http://www.bustedtees.com/product.php?name=morecowbell
Tony
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:4428662c$1@linux...
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Shirt says it all... ;o)
>
> Can this be purchased?"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>Steve Cox Productions
None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name, Rem.....
Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that worked.
You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and has
always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the Hard
drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the "Easy
Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the plugins
folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in your
Hard Drive.
Drumogog is incredible!
Steve Cox Productions"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>Steve Cox Productions
>
>None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
>plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name, Rem.....
>Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
worked.
>
>You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and
has
>always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the Hard
>drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the "Easy
>Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the plugins
>folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in your
>Hard Drive.
>Drumogog is incredible!
>Steve Cox Productions
>
And That's how ya do it!!!Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take it
for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder. Anyway,
my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can follow
the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been running
Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install couldn't
have been easier.
Tony
PS - He spells his name Rim.
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442869c4$1@linux...
>
> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>Steve Cox Productions
>
> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name, Rem.....
> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
> worked.
>
> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and
> has
> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the Hard
> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the "Easy
> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
> plugins
> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in your
> Hard Drive.
> Drumogog is incredible!
> Steve Cox Productions
>I'm sorry, I didn't get back on the net till now, or I would've helped. Sounds
like you got it going though.
Rod
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>Kickback only produces a sinewave so you can add an 808 type kick drum
sound
>>to whatever you want. You need something like Drumagog to trigger samples.
>>You can google it, but I think it's www.drumagog.com
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>How do I setup Kickback to trigger a Bass Drum sample? I am assuming this
>>>is what this plug-in is intended for.
>>> Could someone e-mail me with some instructions? I believe I do have it
>>installed
>>>correctly. Just don't see a way to navigate to the sample in my G4.
>>>Steve Cox Productions stevec1@charter.net
>>I did download drumagog. Sure would like to talk to you on the phone. I
>could get this thing up and running in a hurry. If you wouldn't mind, would
>you consider e-mailing me your phone number so I could call you on my dime?
>Steve
>Danke' Grande dudes. I look forward to seeing how this thing turns out.
AA
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:442860f2@linux...
> Focusrite will officially announce March 29th. $799.00 US is what I saw.
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:4425a04e$1@linux...
>> Well, there goes my car repairs.
>> Anyone know when it's going to be released to public and if it's Mac/PC
>> compatible?
>> AA
>>
>> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> news:4425661e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Focusrite Liquid Mix
>>>
>>> http://www.jrrshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=6087& ;osCsid=601872369631efb3692bb2d31b6b7719
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>The Drumagog plug-in will go in your normal VST Plug-In folder you have
>PARIS pointing to. I installed the GOG sound files on an external Firewire
>drive the I use for sample storage. It will probably be ok to put the GOG
>files on any hard drive, but it would be best to put them on a drive other
>than your boot drive or recording drive. Once you open Drumagog, you'll
need
>to "point" to or "set the path" to the GOG sound files.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442847f4$1@linux...
>>
>> How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>> Steve Cox Productions
>
>In the Mac There is no such folder for Paris. There is a folder called plugins,
but that won't generate the plugin file. The installer needs to see a folder
called VSTPlugins. As the creator of Drumagog told me."Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
it
>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder. Anyway,
>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can follow
>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been running
>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install couldn't
>have been easier.
>
>Tony
>
>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>
>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>
>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name, Rem.....
>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
>> worked.
>>
>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and
>> has
>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the Hard
>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the "Easy
>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>> plugins
>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in your
>> Hard Drive.
>> Drumogog is incredible!
>> Steve Cox Productions
>>
>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was available,
from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first that
does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know, this
is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely post
anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I get
slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else while
I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth comments
I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>Steve,
Are we reading the same posts? What are you all steamed up about?
Chuck
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>it
>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder. Anyway,
>
>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can follow
>
>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been running
>
>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install couldn't
>
>>have been easier.
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name, Rem.....
>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
>
>>> worked.
>>>
>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and
>
>>> has
>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
Hard
>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
"Easy
>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>> plugins
>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in
your
>>> Hard Drive.
>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
>each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was
available,
>from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
that
>does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know, this
>is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely post
>anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I get
>slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else while
>I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
>trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth comments
>I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>
>Tony's "basic" answer was in response to your "basic" question:
"How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4"
This question did not elude to 25 years of studio
ownership... perhaps if the question were worded
differently, you would have received a more "pro" answer.
To be honest, I got the same impression by how you worded
the question... that you were a newbie.
I don't think for a moment that Tony was "talking down" to you.
Regards,
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>
>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>
> it
>
>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder. Anyway,
>
>
>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can follow
>
>
>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been running
>
>
>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install couldn't
>
>
>>have been easier.
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>>>None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
>>>plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name, Rem.....
>>>Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
>
>
>>>worked.
>>>
>>>You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and
>
>
>>>has
>>>always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the Hard
>>>drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the "Easy
>>>Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>plugins
>>>folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in your
>>>Hard Drive.
>>>Drumogog is incredible!
>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>>
>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>
> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was available,
> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first that
> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know, this
> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely post
> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I get
> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else while
> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth comments
> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>
>I like the description.
"Because less cowbell would result in less cowbell". ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Yes, but she's very expensive.
>
>Oh, you mean the shirt? ;>)
>
>http://www.bustedtees.com/product.php?name=morecowbell
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
>news:4428662c$1@linux...
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Shirt says it all... ;o)
>>
>> Can this be purchased?
>
>Steve,
Many apologies if my reply sounded a bit "harsh". I must have created a
folder called "VSTPlugins" several years ago as every time I have installed
Drumagog (including the original install) it's gone with without a hitch.
Like I said, I guess I just assumed everyone had a VST Plugins folder in
place. Mine's always been named "VSTPlugins". I think that's the standard
Steinberg name for the folder, but I'm not positive. I actually reinstalled
Drumagog just now to make sure I wasn't talking out my ass and apparently,
another program demo I recently tried out had installed another "VSTPlugins"
folder and Drumagog asked me which one it should use.
Again, I'm sorry if I sounded condescending, but when you ask a question,
get one reply, and then jump back in saying none of what you were told on
this group was right, well, it seems like you're being a bit condescending
yourself. I know that's not how you worded it, but that's how I took it.
Like my attempt to help you was just a bunch of crap and wasted your time or
something. I'm sorry you feel like you get "smart mouthed" every time you
come here. That certainly hasn't been my experience. I've been here since
2001 and this is by far one of the friendliest users groups on the web.
There aren't many of us PARIS people left and only a pitiful handful of Mac
PARIS people, so I hope if I have a question that you can help with, that
you will help. I will do the same for you, unless you'd prefer me not to.
Just let me know and I'll be glad to zip it.
Peace,
Tony
On 3/27/06 9:45 PM, in article 4428b142$1@linux, "Steve Cox"
<stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>> Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
> it
>> for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder. Anyway,
>
>> my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can follow
>
>> the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been running
>
>> Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install couldn't
>
>> have been easier.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>
>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name, Rem.....
>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
>
>>> worked.
>>>
>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and
>
>>> has
>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the Hard
>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the "Easy
>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>> plugins
>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in your
>>> Hard Drive.
>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>> Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was
> available,
> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first that
> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know, this
> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely post
> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I get
> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else while
> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth comments
> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>
>i don't know about his sense of style but surely he can get amy to
make him a sandwich.
On 28 Mar 2006 07:49:46 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system but
a little outdated.
Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very much
functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my taste.
They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound distant,
thin and not in front.
I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog board
feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like a good
option.
My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT lightpipe.
Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT card.
Now, there are some questions left...
1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows XP)?
Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not recording.
2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
lnyx...)
3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ series)
and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that Paris
in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks? Paris
is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with Paris
system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
Regards,
SFHey Steve
Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is very
tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
dumb questions around.
We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level of
experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware of
the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
Don
ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:4428b142$1@linux...
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
> it
>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>Anyway,
>
>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can follow
>
>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been running
>
>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>couldn't
>
>>have been easier.
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>> Rem.....
>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
>
>>> worked.
>>>
>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is and
>
>>> has
>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
>>> Hard
>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
>>> "Easy
>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>> plugins
>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in
>>> your
>>> Hard Drive.
>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>
>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was
> available,
> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
> that
> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know, this
> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
> post
> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I get
> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else while
> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
> comments
> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>
>Paris converters blow the doors off everything in their price range (new and
used) as well as 90% of every converter at 10 times their used price.
Your mixes will he hotter, livelier and more analogue than you could believe
possible from a DAW and as for you're Mackie...throw it away as Paris will
eat it for breackfast and throw it up all over your RME converters.
You will have (areguably) the best of both worlds and quickly come to
realise how inferior Cubase is and thank your lucky stars you made the
decision to add Paris to your rig.
As for running the two DAWs on one machine. I've heard it's been done but
inevitable the other platform gets an inferiority complex and insists on
moving to it's own rig where it can be "Top Dog"
;-)
Don
"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
>
> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>
> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system but
> a little outdated.
>
> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
> much
> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my taste.
> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
> distant,
> thin and not in front.
>
> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
> board
> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like a
> good
> option.
>
> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
> lightpipe.
> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>
> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
> card.
>
> Now, there are some questions left...
>
> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
> XP)?
> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
> recording.
>
> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
> lnyx...)
>
> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>
> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
> series)
> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
> Paris
> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
> Paris
> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
> Paris
> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>
> Regards,
> SF
>I got a tiger by the tail, it's plain to see. RIP to the king
o' Bakersfield. I guess I'm gonna have to run 20 red lights in his honor.
"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>"...They're gonna put me in the movies"
>
>
>http://tinyurl.com/jsqcf
>
>
>
>
>
>El Miguel
>
>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
aren't floating around..
DonIt may be worth adding that you can put a DSP system like Paris in a really
weak computer if you're merely summing with it.. The first rig I saw was
either a Pentium 90 or 150.. can't recall that detail, and it ran 'one'
(native, not the DSP) direct x plug before choking.... but Paris did
everything it was supposed to w/o any complaining or sluggishness.
Do yourself a major favor and find a host PC just for Paris, two DAWS in one
PC is going to be nothing but headaches for you.
AA
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44293379@linux...
> Paris converters blow the doors off everything in their price range (new
> and used) as well as 90% of every converter at 10 times their used price.
>
> Your mixes will he hotter, livelier and more analogue than you could
> believe possible from a DAW and as for you're Mackie...throw it away as
> Paris will eat it for breackfast and throw it up all over your RME
> converters.
>
> You will have (areguably) the best of both worlds and quickly come to
> realise how inferior Cubase is and thank your lucky stars you made the
> decision to add Paris to your rig.
>
> As for running the two DAWs on one machine. I've heard it's been done but
> inevitable the other platform gets an inferiority complex and insists on
> moving to it's own rig where it can be "Top Dog"
>
> ;-)
>
> Don
>
>
>
> "SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>>
>> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system
>> but
>> a little outdated.
>>
>> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
>> much
>> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
>> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my
>> taste.
>> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
>> distant,
>> thin and not in front.
>>
>> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
>> board
>> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like a
>> good
>> option.
>>
>> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
>> lightpipe.
>> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
>> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>>
>> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
>> card.
>>
>> Now, there are some questions left...
>>
>> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
>> XP)?
>> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
>> recording.
>>
>> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
>> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
>> lnyx...)
>>
>> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>>
>> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
>> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
>> series)
>> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
>> Paris
>> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
>> Paris
>> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
>> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
>> Paris
>> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>>
>> Regards,
>> SF
>>
>
>
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlYep and I've got to learn to use spellcheck
doi!
Don
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:44293d29$1@linux...
> It may be worth adding that you can put a DSP system like Paris in a
> really weak computer if you're merely summing with it.. The first rig I
> saw was either a Pentium 90 or 150.. can't recall that detail, and it ran
> 'one' (native, not the DSP) direct x plug before choking.... but Paris did
> everything it was supposed to w/o any complaining or sluggishness.
> Do yourself a major favor and find a host PC just for Paris, two DAWS in
> one PC is going to be nothing but headaches for you.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44293379@linux...
>> Paris converters blow the doors off everything in their price range (new
>> and used) as well as 90% of every converter at 10 times their used price.
>>
>> Your mixes will he hotter, livelier and more analogue than you could
>> believe possible from a DAW and as for you're Mackie...throw it away as
>> Paris will eat it for breackfast and throw it up all over your RME
>> converters.
>>
>> You will have (areguably) the best of both worlds and quickly come to
>> realise how inferior Cubase is and thank your lucky stars you made the
>> decision to add Paris to your rig.
>>
>> As for running the two DAWs on one machine. I've heard it's been done but
>> inevitable the other platform gets an inferiority complex and insists on
>> moving to it's own rig where it can be "Top Dog"
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>> "SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>>>
>>> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system
>>> but
>>> a little outdated.
>>>
>>> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
>>> much
>>> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
>>> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my
>>> taste.
>>> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
>>> distant,
>>> thin and not in front.
>>>
>>> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
>>> board
>>> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like a
>>> good
>>> option.
>>>
>>> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
>>> lightpipe.
>>> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording,
>>> MIDI,
>>> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>>>
>>> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
>>> card.
>>>
>>> Now, there are some questions left...
>>>
>>> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
>>> XP)?
>>> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
>>> recording.
>>>
>>> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
>>> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
>>> lnyx...)
>>>
>>> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>>>
>>> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
>>> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
>>> series)
>>> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
>>> Paris
>>> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
>>> Paris
>>> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard
>>> (near
>>> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
>>> Paris
>>> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> SF
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>Hi SF,
I used to run PARIS and Logic together (a few years ago now), but have found
that having 2 PCs (one for PARIS and one for Logic / Cubase / whatever) is
definitely the way to go. As Aaron says, the computer for Paris doesn't
need to be all that flash. My setup goes like this:-
PARIS System
Asus A7N8X-E
1GB TwinX (2 x 512) RAM
200GB system drive, 3 partitions (W98SE, WXPpro, storage area)
2 x 120GB audio drives (I keep a backup of everything on the second audio
drive)
3 EDS cards
MEC 1 - 2 x 8 in analog card and 1 x ADat
MEC 2 - 1 x ADat card
Logic System
Mac G5
RME HDSP 9652
I use lightpipes and coax S/PDIF to get VST instruments and some audio
tracks into PARIS from Logic, and audio from PARIS to Logic. Basically I
use PARIS as a summing box. PARIS is the MTC master.
This sounds something like what you're planning to do.
There's a few "gotchas" with setting up a PARIS system on Windows XP, for
example you have to install certain software components in a particular
order, and for some reason you can't have two ADat cards on one MEC, but
with a few workarounds you'll end up with good-quality AD/DA conversion, and
a really nice mixing environment. The only thing that's missing really is
flying faders.
There's lots of information around on the net, but if you get stumped I can
send you the documentation you'll need to get started.
Good luck and welcome 8)
Cheers,
Stewart.
dogster@tpg.com.au
SF wrote in message <4429187f$1@linux>...
>
>Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>
>I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system but
>a little outdated.
>
>Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very much
>functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
>I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my taste.
>They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
distant,
>thin and not in front.
>
>I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
board
>feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like a
good
>option.
>
>My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
lightpipe.
>Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
>VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>
>Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
card.
>
>Now, there are some questions left...
>
>1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows XP)?
>Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not recording.
>
>2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
>multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
>lnyx...)
>
>3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>
>4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
>mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
series)
>and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
Paris
>in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
Paris
>is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
>clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
Paris
>system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>
>Regards,
>SF
>Hey Mark
Glad to hear this stuff works. I've got 5 screens and 4 keyboards, I need
to do the same as you I think.
Cheers,
Stewart.
Mark McDermott wrote in message <44285d6b@linux>...
>
>Hey Guys,
>
>I had to do this just to rationalize my latest setup. Thought I'd share
just
>in case anyone's interested.
>
>I REALLY wanted to reduce the clutter on my control desk. I've got 2 Macs
>and 2 PCs that I use regularly. So, I had four keyboards/mice, 2 C-16s,
drum
>machine, etc. all on my desk. Yuck!
>
>The G4 runs PARIS 3.0 w/2-EDS, 1-MEC, 1-442, and 1-IF/2. G3 runs Performer
>for MIDI stuff (my latest forte into the unknown), new P4 system runs
SoundForge
>8 + assorted plugs, NT box is a file server for backup, app storage, etc.
>
>Here's what I came up with. It's cheap and it really works.
>
>The IO Gear boxes let me control all four computers with two kbds/mice
(meeses??).
>The G4 is connected to all 3 flat panels, sharing the 17" on left with the
>G3. This is great for PARIS. Mixer in the center. Project, Audio, Transport
>on left. Editor on the right. PCs share the 21" w/the G4. The 21" has DVI,
>VGA, S-Video and composite ins so I can switch the monitor between Mac
(DVI)
>and PCs (VGA) from its front panel.
>
>Holy crap! This is really working!!!
>
>Sanity check over. Now, back to work!
>
>MarkOK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that you
feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a community
of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that struck
a nerve. Tony I appologize.
Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was refered
to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all the
old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out and
see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check it.
Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type in the
word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote me,
but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST pluggins"
The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives, garage
sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way I have
ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call them.
THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to act
professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not psychics
here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more professional.
In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come to
the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to swear
on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was told
that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from others
who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me. Check
out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay low
and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if you
install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no folder
called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be how
there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't have
Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog was
the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I will
lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony, I
appologise.
Steve Cox
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hey Steve
>
>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is very
>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
>dumb questions around.
>
>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level of
>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>
>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware
of
>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>
>Don
>
>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>
>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>> it
>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>Anyway,
>>
>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can follow
>>
>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been running
>>
>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>couldn't
>>
>>>have been easier.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>
>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the drumagog
>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>> Rem.....
>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing that
>>
>>>> worked.
>>>>
>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is
and
>>
>>>> has
>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
>>>> Hard
>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
>>>> "Easy
>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>> plugins
>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in
>>>> your
>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>
>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was
>> available,
>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
>> that
>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know, this
>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
>> post
>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I
get
>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else while
>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>> comments
>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>
>>
>
>Hey Steve
Welcome to the forum...as we are a dying breed, we often assume people are
in the loop as to Paris's functionality and it's quirks.
Please hang around and enjoy the banter, get to know the guys and you will
become hooked by the knowledge, generousity and humour of the crew but not
necessarily in thast order. You'll also find late nite phone calls or skype
chats are not uncommon around here.
So once again welcome to the forum and I personally hope you decide to stick
around....(didn't I already say that)
Don
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442953df$1@linux...
>
> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that you
> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
> community
> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
> struck
> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was refered
> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all the
> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out and
> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check it.
> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type in
> the
> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
> me,
> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST pluggins"
> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
> garage
> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way I
> have
> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call them.
> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to act
> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
> psychics
> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
> professional.
> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come to
> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to
> swear
> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was told
> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from
> others
> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me.
> Check
> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay low
> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if you
> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no folder
> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be how
> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
> have
> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog was
> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I will
> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony, I
> appologise.
> Steve Cox
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Hey Steve
>>
>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
>
>>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is very
>
>>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
>
>>dumb questions around.
>>
>>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level of
>
>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>
>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware
> of
>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>>
>>Don
>>
>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>>> it
>>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>>Anyway,
>>>
>>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can
>>>>follow
>>>
>>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been
>>>>running
>>>
>>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>>couldn't
>>>
>>>>have been easier.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>
>>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the
>>>>> drumagog
>>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>>> Rem.....
>>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing
>>>>> that
>>>
>>>>> worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is
> and
>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
>
>>>>> Hard
>>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
>
>>>>> "Easy
>>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>>> plugins
>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in
>
>>>>> your
>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>
>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was
>
>>> available,
>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
>
>>> that
>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know,
>>> this
>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
>
>>> post
>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I
> get
>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>>> while
>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>> comments
>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hi
I just got offf the phone with a friend who said that no sound-replacer works
well with Paris bur he recommended drumagog and Logic. Are You guys successful
in using Drumagog with Paris on mac? My mac is an old 400 Mhz G4.
Thanks!!!
CJGHey Don, thanks! I think I will post a new fresh start. I will be interested
in your thoughts. I have a few minutes before my session with a jingle, it
will be "Paris in a Laptop"
God Bless,
Steve
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hey Steve
>
>Welcome to the forum...as we are a dying breed, we often assume people are
>in the loop as to Paris's functionality and it's quirks.
>
>Please hang around and enjoy the banter, get to know the guys and you will
>become hooked by the knowledge, generousity and humour of the crew but
not
>necessarily in thast order. You'll also find late nite phone calls or skype
>chats are not uncommon around here.
>
>So once again welcome to the forum and I personally hope you decide to stick
>around....(didn't I already say that)
>
>Don
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442953df$1@linux...
>>
>> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that
you
>> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
>> community
>> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
>> struck
>> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
>> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was refered
>> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all the
>> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out
and
>> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check
it.
>> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type in
>> the
>> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
>> me,
>> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST pluggins"
>> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
>> garage
>> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way
I
>> have
>> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call them.
>> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to act
>> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
>> psychics
>> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
>> professional.
>> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come
to
>> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to
>> swear
>> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was
told
>> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from
>> others
>> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me.
>> Check
>> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay low
>> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if
you
>> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no folder
>> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
>> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
>> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be how
>> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
>> have
>> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog was
>> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I will
>> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony,
I
>> appologise.
>> Steve Cox
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Hey Steve
>>>
>>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
>>
>>>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is
very
>>
>>>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
>>
>>>dumb questions around.
>>>
>>>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level
of
>>
>>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>>
>>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware
>> of
>>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>>>> it
>>>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>
>>>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can
>>>>>follow
>>>>
>>>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been
>>>>>running
>>>>
>>>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>>>couldn't
>>>>
>>>>>have been easier.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the
>>>>>> drumagog
>>>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>>>> Rem.....
>>>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing
>>>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is
>> and
>>>>
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
>>
>>>>>> Hard
>>>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
>>
>>>>>> "Easy
>>>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder
in
>>
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>
>>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one
for
>>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware
was
>>
>>>> available,
>>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
>>
>>>> that
>>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know,
>>>> this
>>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
>>
>>>> post
>>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help,
I
>> get
>>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>>>> while
>>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio
time
>>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>>> comments
>>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I run Paris in pretty much a solely dedicated G4, short of Peak and Toast.
I often have oppertunity to go on location. Because I have four paris systems
(between 2 studios) one is packed up and pretty much ready to go most of
the time. Lugging the G4 around is cumbersome enough, then there's the MEC.
I do have a Pizmo G3 with firewire and usb ports. I am not at all opposed
to using different software on location and then transferring and lining
up simple .wav files. Any suggestions?? BTW it would need to have phantom
power for the neumanns.
If you reply , (and however you reply)...... Stevie will be nice, I promise..
try me!
Steve Cox ProductionsYou might want to look at one of IOGear's higher-end products. They've got
a 4-way for about $150. I went with the two 2-ways as the local Fry's had
them both on sale and I saved about $80. I know, I'll probably regret it
later and end up spending the money anyway. You'd think I'd learn by now...
Just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2 for my studio so the money I saved was
already spent!
Let me know if you have any Q's. I'm happy to assist.
Mark
"Sound Dog" <dogster@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>Hey Mark
>
>Glad to hear this stuff works. I've got 5 screens and 4 keyboards, I need
>to do the same as you I think.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Stewart.
>
>
>Mark McDermott wrote in message <44285d6b@linux>...
>>
>>Hey Guys,
>>
>>I had to do this just to rationalize my latest setup. Thought I'd share
>just
>>in case anyone's interested.
>>
>>I REALLY wanted to reduce the clutter on my control desk. I've got 2 Macs
>>and 2 PCs that I use regularly. So, I had four keyboards/mice, 2 C-16s,
>drum
>>machine, etc. all on my desk. Yuck!
>>
>>The G4 runs PARIS 3.0 w/2-EDS, 1-MEC, 1-442, and 1-IF/2. G3 runs Performer
>>for MIDI stuff (my latest forte into the unknown), new P4 system runs
>SoundForge
>>8 + assorted plugs, NT box is a file server for backup, app storage, etc.
>>
>>Here's what I came up with. It's cheap and it really works.
>>
>>The IO Gear boxes let me control all four computers with two kbds/mice
>(meeses??).
>>The G4 is connected to all 3 flat panels, sharing the 17" on left with
the
>>G3. This is great for PARIS. Mixer in the center. Project, Audio, Transport
>>on left. Editor on the right. PCs share the 21" w/the G4. The 21" has DVI,
>>VGA, S-Video and composite ins so I can switch the monitor between Mac
>(DVI)
>>and PCs (VGA) from its front panel.
>>
>>Holy crap! This is really working!!!
>>
>>Sanity check over. Now, back to work!
>>
>>Mark
>
>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone has
some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
Thanks
BarryHello CJG,
I just installed it yesterday. I am totally blown away with Drumogog in my
Paris! I always have a hard time getting the bass drum track to sound the
way I want it to. Soooo I installed Drumagog as an insert and it will replace
the bass drum notes with the sampled bass drum of my choice. Velocity and
everything!I would be honored to walk you through step by step how to installand
use drumagog in paris in a 400 mhz G4.
Steve Cox Productions
"CJG" <grimmark@telia.com> wrote:
>
>Hi
>I just got offf the phone with a friend who said that no sound-replacer
works
>well with Paris bur he recommended drumagog and Logic. Are You guys successful
>in using Drumagog with Paris on mac? My mac is an old 400 Mhz G4.
>
>Thanks!!!
>CJGAnything by Soundelux
Microtech-Geffel tube
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:442963a8$1@linux...
> I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
> some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
>
>I knew a few years back of a guy using a Magma on a laptop and 2 eds cards..
I think it was a PC laptop, and the Magma a PCMCIA version. I believe he
reported finally getting it stable at 2 cards but no more than that IIRC. I
know the hardware architecture of your typical laptop is considerably slower
than a desktop, simply for power and physical space reasons.
Sorry I couldn't be more help on it dude, perhaps the cat that pulled that
trick is here/will speak out since the details escape my addled mind at the
moment.
AA
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:44295f55$1@linux...
>
> I run Paris in pretty much a solely dedicated G4, short of Peak and Toast.
> I often have oppertunity to go on location. Because I have four paris
> systems
> (between 2 studios) one is packed up and pretty much ready to go most of
> the time. Lugging the G4 around is cumbersome enough, then there's the
> MEC.
> I do have a Pizmo G3 with firewire and usb ports. I am not at all opposed
> to using different software on location and then transferring and lining
> up simple .wav files. Any suggestions?? BTW it would need to have phantom
> power for the neumanns.
> If you reply , (and however you reply)...... Stevie will be nice, I
> promise..
> try me!
> Steve Cox Productions
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlHi Steve,
Check out the following link to Magma's web site. I think this is what you're
looking for:
http://www.mobl.com/expansion/products/cardbus_expansion/
Hope this helps!
Mark
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>I run Paris in pretty much a solely dedicated G4, short of Peak and Toast.
>I often have oppertunity to go on location. Because I have four paris systems
>(between 2 studios) one is packed up and pretty much ready to go most of
>the time. Lugging the G4 around is cumbersome enough, then the
re's the MEC.
>I do have a Pizmo G3 with firewire and usb ports. I am not at all opposed
>to using different software on location and then transferring and lining
>up simple .wav files. Any suggestions?? BTW it would need to have phantom
>power for the neumanns.
>If you reply , (and however you reply)...... Stevie will be nice, I promise..
>try me!
>Steve Cox ProductionsHey Barry,
Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE ELectronics
Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently using
a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2 which
has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it sounds.
Mark
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
>Thanks
>
>Barry
>
>Hey SF,
Sounds like you've come to the right place!
Let me know if you decide to go with PARIS. I've got an EDS, C16, MEC and
a 3.0 license for sale.
Cheers!
Mark
"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>
>I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system but
>a little outdated.
>
>Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I li
ke very much
>functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
>I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my taste.
>They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound distant,
>thin and not in front.
>
>I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
board
>feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like a
good
>option.
>
>My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT lightpipe.
>Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
>VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>
>Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
card.
>
>Now, there are some questions left...
>
>1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows XP)?
>Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not recording.
>
>2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
>multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
>lnyx...)
>
>3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>
>4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
>mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ series)
>and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that Paris
>in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
Paris
>is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
>clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
Paris
>system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>
>Regards,
>SF
>front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>aren't floating around..
>
>Don
>Let me know how you like the UX2 I've been looking at it also but have been
waiting to hear a review on it first....
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Barry,
>
>Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE ELectronics
>Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
>but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently using
>a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2
which
>has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it sounds.
>
>Mark
>
>"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
a
>>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
a
>>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
>has
>>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Barry
>>
>>
>I have a Multiface here. I have a Cubase SX template set up a 1.5ms latency
that I use to patch the Multiface converters into my Paris rig via Paris
lightpipe fro tracking. I like them both. The Paris and Multiface converters
sound different from each other. I sometimes prefer the Multiface converters
to the Paris on some sources depending on the source, the mic and the
preamp.
I always track to Paris using the Paris converters, RME converters and Mytek
converters, batch convert them to .wavs, import them to a second DAW running
Cubase, then lightpipe them back to Paris during mixdown. This allows me to
take advantage of the PDC and editor in SX and the automation in both
systems.
There's a lot more to getting this to happen than I have described. If you
decide you want to go there, I have attached a word.doc that explains how it
is done.
I prefer the Paris mix bus to the one in SX and unless you just like the
sound of the Mackie mixer for some reason, you'll likely be happy with Paris
if you use it's strengths and accept it's limitations.
Deej
"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
>
> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>
> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system but
> a little outdated.
>
> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
much
> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my taste.
> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
distant,
> thin and not in front.
>
> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
board
> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like a
good
> option.
>
> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
lightpipe.
> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>
> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
card.
>
> Now, there are some questions left...
>
> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
XP)?
> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
recording.
>
> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
> lnyx...)
>
> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>
> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
series)
> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
Paris
> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
Paris
> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
Paris
> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>
> Regards,
> SF
>
I'm looking for two of each (front and back) preferably black but not
necessary
DOn
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:khqi229jc91rpof4m1b7ig5ur7aqvsfknh@4ax.com...
> front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>>aren't floating around..
>>
>>Don
>>
>Steve,
I have another theory on why you might get help more often when talking on
the phone. In my experience, (and this thread is a prime example) it's
pretty difficult to ask a complicated question, or give a complicated answer
in just a few words. Both parties assume the other understands what they
meant when often there just isn't enough information exchanged. Had we
talked on the phone, I'm sure through the course of trouble shooting we may
well have figured out what the hang up was. With that said, if you can
contact the software vendor directly, they may have the answer right away,
as they've probably seen the problem before. Unfortunately, all vendors
aren't nearly as accommodating as Rim Buntinas is and sometimes we have to
work together through trial and error to figure stuff out.
Over the years this group has developed into much more of a community of
PARIS and former PARIS users and fewer and fewer technical questions come
up. Though I've never meant many of the people I talk with here, I have a
definite sense that they are my friends and many times the banter tends to
be jovial. Don't get me wrong, everyone here can and will be helpful with
PARIS questions, but if you are looking for strictly technical support, you
will be disappointed with much of the "fluff" we engage in. With some
patience, there is a phenomenal amount of collective brain power here to be
tapped. This includes all areas of recording, not just PARIS related.
There are a million things I don't know about Macs and PARIS, but if you
ever want to bounce a question my way, feel free to give me a call.
515-233-3191. I have a day gig, so call in the evening CST if I'll need to
be at my rig. I might not have a quick answer for you, but I'll be glad to
do what I can to help.
Tony
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442953df$1@linux...
>
> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that you
> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
> community
> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
> struck
> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was refered
> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all the
> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out and
> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check it.
> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type in
> the
> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
> me,
> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST pluggins"
> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
> garage
> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way I
> have
> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call them.
> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to act
> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
> psychics
> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
> professional.
> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come to
> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to
> swear
> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was told
> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from
> others
> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me.
> Check
> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay low
> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if you
> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no folder
> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be how
> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
> have
> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog was
> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I will
> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony, I
> appologise.
> Steve Cox
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Hey Steve
>>
>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
>
>>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is very
>
>>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
>
>>dumb questions around.
>>
>>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level of
>
>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>
>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware
> of
>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>>
>>Don
>>
>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>>> it
>>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>>Anyway,
>>>
>>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can
>>>>follow
>>>
>>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been
>>>>running
>>>
>>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>>couldn't
>>>
>>>>have been easier.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>
>>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the
>>>>> drumagog
>>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>>> Rem.....
>>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing
>>>>> that
>>>
>>>>> worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is
> and
>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
>
>>>>> Hard
>>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
>
>>>>> "Easy
>>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>>> plugins
>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder in
>
>>>>> your
>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>
>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one for
>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware was
>
>>> available,
>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
>
>>> that
>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know,
>>> this
>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
>
>>> post
>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help, I
> get
>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>>> while
>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio time
>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>> comments
>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Will do.
I liked the idea of balanced and S/PDIF I/O on the UX2.
Have been using a PODxt with my live rig (Atomic Reactor tube amp) and really
like it. It's a pain in the butt to keep pulling the 'xt out of the amp everytime
I want to record so the Toneport will at least relieve that problem. Hopefully,
the mic pre and LA2A emulations will be the icing on the cake.
Mark
"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Let me know how you like the UX2 I've been looking at it also but have been
>waiting to hear a review on it first....
>
>
>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Barry,
>>
>>Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE ELectronics
>>Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
>>but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently
using
>>a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2
>which
>>has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it sounds.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
>a
>>>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
>a
>>>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
>>has
>>>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Barry
>>>
>>>
>>
>any preamp by Forssell
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:442963a8$1@linux...
> I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
> some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
>
>The first link below, the signal path for the femme vocalist is a Forssell
CS-1>SE Gemini. The male vocalist in the second link is a FForssell CS-1> SE
Gemini.
http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Doug%20Joyce/Tim%20Sullivan- Road%20To%20Para
dise/Love%20Me%20Tonight.mp3
http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/Doug%20Joyce/Tim%20Sullivan- Road%20To%20Para
dise/Heather%20Kathleen.mp3
"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote in message
news:44296841$1@linux...
>
> Hey Barry,
>
> Based on a suggestion from the inimitable Deej, I purchased an SE
ELectronics
> Gemini dual-tube condenser and am VERY happy. They sell for around $1250
> but I picked one up in mint condition on eBay for half that. Currently
using
> a Focusrite platinum-series pre but I just ordered a Line6 Toneport UX2
which
> has Neve and API emulation so I'm pretty excited to hear how good it
sounds.
>
> Mark
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
> has
> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Barry
> >
> >
>Steve,
My mobile set-up is a Focusrite Saffire running the included Cubase SE
software on a 1.67 G4 PowerBook. I only use the line inputs of the Saffire,
and I've heard a lot of people don't like the mic pres in this unit. If you
want decent mic pres, you might research some of the other Firewire
interfaces out there. Also, the Saffire will only record 4 inputs
simultaneously and that's using the SPDIF inputs additionally. Anyway, I
record 24 bit .wavs in Cubase and convert them to 24 bit .paf's with and old
version of SonicWorx. Long story short, PARIS on a Mac laptop would be a bit
cumbersome for mobile recording, but any good Firewire interface and your
laptop should get you good results, and the file transfers to PARIS aren't a
big deal.
Tony
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:44295f55$1@linux...
>
> I run Paris in pretty much a solely dedicated G4, short of Peak and Toast.
> I often have oppertunity to go on location. Because I have four paris
> systems
> (between 2 studios) one is packed up and pretty much ready to go most of
> the time. Lugging the G4 around is cumbersome enough, then there's the
> MEC.
> I do have a Pizmo G3 with firewire and usb ports. I am not at all opposed
> to using different software on location and then transferring and lining
> up simple .wav files. Any suggestions?? BTW it would need to have phantom
> power for the neumanns.
> If you reply , (and however you reply)...... Stevie will be nice, I
> promise..
> try me!
> Steve Cox Productionsshoot me yo address and i can get the backs out to you.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:14:33 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>I'm looking for two of each (front and back) preferably black but not
>necessary
>
>DOn
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:khqi229jc91rpof4m1b7ig5ur7aqvsfknh@4ax.com...
>> front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>>>aren't floating around..
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>
>This cowbell thing is getting some legs around these parts. I was listening
to the loocal rock station (Big Dog 99.7FM) in beautiful Farmington New
Mexico yesterday and they had a three song cowbell medley, Mississippi
Queen, Honky Tonk Women and Drive My Car.
Power to the cowbell!!!!!
I actually have this huge camel bell here in the studio that sounds more
like a cowbell than a cowbell.......I know, this is heresy.
;o)
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:442772d4$1@linux...
>
>
> Shirt says it all... ;o)Maybe Garage band and a simple firewire 2 ch mic pre w/phantom? I do have
a small 4 ch. headphones amp. I rarely would have to go more than 2 ch at
a time on location, if so, they can just pay for full rig set-up. I am still
open to anyone elses setup....
Steve Cox
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Steve,
>
>My mobile set-up is a Focusrite Saffire running the included Cubase SE
>software on a 1.67 G4 PowerBook. I only use the line inputs of the Saffire,
>and I've heard a lot of people don't like the mic pres in this unit. If
you
>want decent mic pres, you might research some of the other Firewire
>interfaces out there. Also, the Saffire will only record 4 inputs
>simultaneously and that's using the SPDIF inputs additionally. Anyway, I
>record 24 bit .wavs in Cubase and convert them to 24 bit .paf's with and
old
>version of SonicWorx. Long story short, PARIS on a Mac laptop would be a
bit
>cumbersome for mobile recording, but any good Firewire interface and your
>laptop should get you good results, and the file transfers to PARIS aren't
a
>big deal.
>
>Tony
>
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:44295f55$1@linux...
>>
>> I run Paris in pretty much a solely dedicated G4, short of Peak and Toast.
>> I often have oppertunity to go on location. Because I have four paris
>> systems
>> (between 2 studios) one is packed up and pretty much ready to go most
of
>> the time. Lugging the G4 around is cumbersome enough, then there's the
>> MEC.
>> I do have a Pizmo G3 with firewire and usb ports. I am not at all opposed
>> to using different software on location and then transferring and lining
>> up simple .wav files. Any suggestions?? BTW it would need to have phantom
>> power for the neumanns.
>> If you reply , (and however you reply)...... Stevie will be nice, I
>> promise..
>> try me!
>> Steve Cox Productions
>
>Thanks a million Rick
Anyone got a couple of front plates
Don
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:p71j229olpt1t1o1se8me4i8i4nav35crn@4ax.com...
> shoot me yo address and i can get the backs out to you.
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:14:33 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>I'm looking for two of each (front and back) preferably black but not
>>necessary
>>
>>DOn
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:khqi229jc91rpof4m1b7ig5ur7aqvsfknh@4ax.com...
>>> front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>>>>aren't floating around..
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I might Don. I'll dig around in the closet when I get home and let you know.
Tony
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44299ceb@linux...
> Thanks a million Rick
>
> Anyone got a couple of front plates
>
> Don
>
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:p71j229olpt1t1o1se8me4i8i4nav35crn@4ax.com...
>> shoot me yo address and i can get the backs out to you.
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:14:33 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm looking for two of each (front and back) preferably black but not
>>>necessary
>>>
>>>DOn
>>>
>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:khqi229jc91rpof4m1b7ig5ur7aqvsfknh@4ax.com...
>>>> front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>>>>>aren't floating around..
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>soooo.......what???......do the preset plates sound sort of metallic???
;op)
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44293713@linux...
> I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
> aren't floating around..
>
> Don
>
>That's the problem... they aren't metallic enough!! ;-)
David.
DJ wrote:
> soooo.......what???......do the preset plates sound sort of metallic???
>
> ;op)
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44293713@linux...
>
>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>>aren't floating around..
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>
>
>Hey Tony,
My appologies are sincere. Forgive me??
Steve Cox
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Steve,
>
>I have another theory on why you might get help more often when talking
on
>the phone. In my experience, (and this thread is a prime example) it's
>pretty difficult to ask a complicated question, or give a complicated answer
>in just a few words. Both parties assume the other understands what they
>meant when often there just isn't enough information exchanged. Had we
>talked on the phone, I'm sure through the course of trouble shooting we
may
>well have figured out what the hang up was. With that said, if you can
>contact the software vendor directly, they may have the answer right away,
>as they've probably seen the problem before. Unfortunately, all vendors
>aren't nearly as accommodating as Rim Buntinas is and sometimes we have
to
>work together through trial and error to figure stuff out.
>
>Over the years this group has developed into much more of a community of
>PARIS and former PARIS users and fewer and fewer technical questions come
>up. Though I've never meant many of the people I talk with here, I have
a
>definite sense that they are my friends and many times the banter tends
to
>be jovial. Don't get me wrong, everyone here can and will be helpful with
>PARIS questions, but if you are looking for strictly technical support,
you
>will be disappointed with much of the "fluff" we engage in. With some
>patience, there is a phenomenal amount of collective brain power here to
be
>tapped. This includes all areas of recording, not just PARIS related.
>
>There are a million things I don't know about Macs and PARIS, but if you
>ever want to bounce a question my way, feel free to give me a call.
>515-233-3191. I have a day gig, so call in the evening CST if I'll need
to
>be at my rig. I might not have a quick answer for you, but I'll be glad
to
>do what I can to help.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442953df$1@linux...
>>
>> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that
you
>> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
>> community
>> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
>> struck
>> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
>> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was refered
>> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all the
>> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out
and
>> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check
it.
>> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type in
>> the
>> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
>> me,
>> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST pluggins"
>> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
>> garage
>> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way
I
>> have
>> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call them.
>> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to act
>> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
>> psychics
>> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
>> professional.
>> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come
to
>> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to
>> swear
>> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was
told
>> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from
>> others
>> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me.
>> Check
>> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay low
>> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if
you
>> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no folder
>> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
>> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
>> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be how
>> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
>> have
>> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog was
>> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I will
>> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony,
I
>> appologise.
>> Steve Cox
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Hey Steve
>>>
>>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
>>
>>>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is
very
>>
>>>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
>>
>>>dumb questions around.
>>>
>>>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level
of
>>
>>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>>
>>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware
>> of
>>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>>>> it
>>>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>
>>>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can
>>>>>follow
>>>>
>>>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been
>>>>>running
>>>>
>>>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>>>couldn't
>>>>
>>>>>have been easier.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the
>>>>>> drumagog
>>>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>>>> Rem.....
>>>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing
>>>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is
>> and
>>>>
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
>>
>>>>>> Hard
>>>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
>>
>>>>>> "Easy
>>>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder
in
>>
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>
>>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one
for
>>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware
was
>>
>>>> available,
>>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
>>
>>>> that
>>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know,
>>>> this
>>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
>>
>>>> post
>>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help,
I
>> get
>>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>>>> while
>>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio
time
>>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>>> comments
>>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Here you go I found a use for PT you just track in PT so the customer
walks away thinking they are using "the best tools". They leave you pull
the files into PARIS and mixdown the now great sounding music pull the
24 bit mixdown wavs into Samplitude master and dither using POW-r and
this is what you get.
http://www.myspace.com/thejtb
All 3 songs done this way.
Let me know what you think!
PS I let the drummer whose studio we used for tracking and owned it
before we formed the band together. Anyway he "was" a bigtime PT
defender that was completely put out that I insist all the mixing be
done in PARIS and not his PT rig, till he heard PARIS and asked "how can
I make my PT mixes sound like that?", my response "You can't!"
And yes I know what you PT guys are thinking, "Yes I can all I need is a
Trident console to mixdown with!" :)
JameyJamey Tiffee wrote:
> Here you go I found a use for PT you just track in PT so the customer
> walks away thinking they are using "the best tools". They leave you pull
> the files into PARIS and mixdown the now great sounding music pull the
> 24 bit mixdown wavs into Samplitude master and dither using POW-r and
> this is what you get.
>
> http://www.myspace.com/thejtb
>
> All 3 songs done this way.
>
> Let me know what you think!
>
> PS I let the drummer whose studio we used for tracking and owned it
> before we formed the band together. Anyway he "was" a bigtime PT
> defender that was completely put out that I insist all the mixing be
> done in PARIS and not his PT rig, till he heard PARIS and asked "how can
> I make my PT mixes sound like that?", my response "You can't!"
>
> And yes I know what you PT guys are thinking, "Yes I can all I need is a
> Trident console to mixdown with!" :)
> Jamey
Oh yeah the MP3's were created with iTunes on PC default settings.You might be referring to my old setup, as I think I was probably the first around here if I remember correctly to go this route back in the day. I had a Dell PC Laptop with a magma 4 slot PCMCIA running 4 EDS cards. I had an external 7200 rpm drive in the laptop, as well as an external firewire drive. All running on Win XP.
I used that for a couple years with no big problems to speak of at all.
Cheers,
TC
Aaron Allen wrote:
> I knew a few years back of a guy using a Magma on a laptop and 2 eds cards..
> I think it was a PC laptop, and the Magma a PCMCIA version. I believe he
> reported finally getting it stable at 2 cards but no more than that IIRC. I
> know the hardware architecture of your typical laptop is considerably slower
> than a desktop, simply for power and physical space reasons.
> Sorry I couldn't be more help on it dude, perhaps the cat that pulled that
> trick is here/will speak out since the details escape my addled mind at the
> moment.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:44295f55$1@linux...
>
>>I run Paris in pretty much a solely dedicated G4, short of Peak and Toast.
>>I often have oppertunity to go on location. Because I have four paris
>>systems
>>(between 2 studios) one is packed up and pretty much ready to go most of
>>the time. Lugging the G4 around is cumbersome enough, then there's the
>>MEC.
>>I do have a Pizmo G3 with firewire and usb ports. I am not at all opposed
>>to using different software on location and then transferring and lining
>>up simple .wav files. Any suggestions?? BTW it would need to have phantom
>>power for the neumanns.
>>If you reply , (and however you reply)...... Stevie will be nice, I
>>promise..
>>try me!
>>Steve Cox Productions
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>Hey Steve! I just wanted to jump in here and say a few things. First welcome
to the NG! I've been here since, well, I think around 1997, mostly lurking,
and learning. A lot of the greats have moved on, and a lot of the greats
are still here, and some still pop in every once in awhile. If you stick
around this place it will grow on you.
I have to step up and say that I think that there must have been a bit of
a miss understanding, or something. It's too bad you got off to a bad start
here, hopefully things will get ironed out. I have to say that Tony is one
of the coolest guys here, and I hope you guys get to know each other, so
to speak. I will personally vouch for both of you guys and say that your
both good guys, honest men and great to do business with. Tony has always
been willing to help out with questions, especially Mac questions. I also
know that you will be a great asset to the NG, if you choose to stick around.
Both of you guys have personally volunteered to help me out and even picked
up the phone to do so, and I really appreciate that, thanks!
Again, welcome to the Paris news group!
James
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Steve,
>
>I have another theory on why you might get help more often when talking
on
>the phone. In my experience, (and this thread is a prime example) it's
>pretty difficult to ask a complicated question, or give a complicated answer
>in just a few words. Both parties assume the other understands what they
>meant when often there just isn't enough information exchanged. Had we
>talked on the phone, I'm sure through the course of trouble shooting we
may
>well have figured out what the hang up was. With that said, if you can
>contact the software vendor directly, they may have the answer right away,
>as they've probably seen the problem before. Unfortunately, all vendors
>aren't nearly as accommodating as Rim Buntinas is and sometimes we have
to
>work together through trial and error to figure stuff out.
>
>Over the years this group has developed into much more of a community of
>PARIS and former PARIS users and fewer and fewer technical questions come
>up. Though I've never meant many of the people I talk with here, I have
a
>definite sense that they are my friends and many times the banter tends
to
>be jovial. Don't get me wrong, everyone here can and will be helpful with
>PARIS questions, but if you are looking for strictly technical support,
you
>will be disappointed with much of the "fluff" we engage in. With some
>patience, there is a phenomenal amount of collective brain power here to
be
>tapped. This includes all areas of recording, not just PARIS related.
>
>There are a million things I don't know about Macs and PARIS, but if you
>ever want to bounce a question my way, feel free to give me a call.
>515-233-3191. I have a day gig, so call in the evening CST if I'll need
to
>be at my rig. I might not have a quick answer for you, but I'll be glad
to
>do what I can to help.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442953df$1@linux...
>>
>> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that
you
>> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
>> community
>> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
>> struck
>> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
>> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was refered
>> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all the
>> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out
and
>> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check
it.
>> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type in
>> the
>> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
>> me,
>> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST pluggins"
>> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
>> garage
>> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way
I
>> have
>> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call them.
>> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to act
>> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
>> psychics
>> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
>> professional.
>> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come
to
>> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to
>> swear
>> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was
told
>> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from
>> others
>> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me.
>> Check
>> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay low
>> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if
you
>> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no folder
>> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
>> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
>> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be how
>> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
>> have
>> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog was
>> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I will
>> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony,
I
>> appologise.
>> Steve Cox
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Hey Steve
>>>
>>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
>>
>>>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is
very
>>
>>>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
>>
>>>dumb questions around.
>>>
>>>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level
of
>>
>>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>>
>>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware
>> of
>>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just take
>>>> it
>>>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>
>>>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can
>>>>>follow
>>>>
>>>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been
>>>>>running
>>>>
>>>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>>>couldn't
>>>>
>>>>>have been easier.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the
>>>>>> drumagog
>>>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>>>> Rem.....
>>>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing
>>>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That is
>> and
>>>>
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on the
>>
>>>>>> Hard
>>>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do the
>>
>>>>>> "Easy
>>>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder
in
>>
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>
>>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run this
>>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one
for
>>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware
was
>>
>>>> available,
>>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
>>
>>>> that
>>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know,
>>>> this
>>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
>>
>>>> post
>>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help,
I
>> get
>>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>>>> while
>>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio
time
>>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>>> comments
>>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
Neil
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
>preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
>Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
has
>some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>
>Thanks
>
>Barry
>
>And not black enough
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4429a21c$1@linux...
> That's the problem... they aren't metallic enough!! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> soooo.......what???......do the preset plates sound sort of metallic???
>>
>> ;op)
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44293713@linux...
>>
>>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>>>aren't floating around..
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Thanks Tony, greatly appreciated
DOn
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:44299fb4$1@linux...
>I might Don. I'll dig around in the closet when I get home and let you
>know.
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44299ceb@linux...
>> Thanks a million Rick
>>
>> Anyone got a couple of front plates
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:p71j229olpt1t1o1se8me4i8i4nav35crn@4ax.com...
>>> shoot me yo address and i can get the backs out to you.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:14:33 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm looking for two of each (front and back) preferably black but not
>>>>necessary
>>>>
>>>>DOn
>>>>
>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:khqi229jc91rpof4m1b7ig5ur7aqvsfknh@4ax.com...
>>>>> front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few
>>>>>>plates
>>>>>>aren't floating around..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4429d2f3$1@linux...
> And not black enough
shit did I say that out loud
:-o
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As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, =
I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little =
play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank =
are in order - what could be mo' fun?=20
Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and =
pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under =
a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on =
them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I =
may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more =
forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks =
that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine =
not taking him up on that one.=20
http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
As Always, Mucho Gracias
AA
PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really, =
just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Always, Mucho Gracias</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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chips on my end.. yes, I think you were the dude with the brass monkeys to
try this deviant experiment. And kudos to you for it.
A Question TC, if you would be so kind.. did you have power supply noise
issues on your Dell, and what model/year?
I've had loads of problems with keeping my 4 year old Dell Inspiron8000 out
of buzz/hum mode, wondering if you knew some secret sauce for what I `think`
to be a ground / filtering problem inherent to dell laptop supplies. Battery
is quiet as a mouse.. A/C brings all kinds of problems I can't seem to get
rid of.
AA
"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:4429c317@linux...
> You might be referring to my old setup, as I think I was probably the
> first around here if I remember correctly to go this route back in the
> day. I had a Dell PC Laptop with a magma 4 slot PCMCIA running 4 EDS
> cards. I had an external 7200 rpm drive in the laptop, as well as an
> external firewire drive. All running on Win XP.
>
> I used that for a couple years with no big problems to speak of at all.
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> I knew a few years back of a guy using a Magma on a laptop and 2 eds
>> cards.. I think it was a PC laptop, and the Magma a PCMCIA version. I
>> believe he reported finally getting it stable at 2 cards but no more than
>> that IIRC. I know the hardware architecture of your typical laptop is
>> considerably slower than a desktop, simply for power and physical space
>> reasons.
>> Sorry I couldn't be more help on it dude, perhaps the cat that pulled
>> that trick is here/will speak out since the details escape my addled mind
>> at the moment.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:44295f55$1@linux...
>>
>>>I run Paris in pretty much a solely dedicated G4, short of Peak and
>>>Toast.
>>>I often have oppertunity to go on location. Because I have four paris
>>>systems
>>>(between 2 studios) one is packed up and pretty much ready to go most of
>>>the time. Lugging the G4 around is cumbersome enough, then there's the
>>>MEC.
>>>I do have a Pizmo G3 with firewire and usb ports. I am not at all opposed
>>>to using different software on location and then transferring and lining
>>>up simple .wav files. Any suggestions?? BTW it would need to have phantom
>>>power for the neumanns.
>>>If you reply , (and however you reply)...... Stevie will be nice, I
>>>promise..
>>>try me!
>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlHow about white, with a silver airbrushed Polar Bear head on
the gas tank?
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>
>As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, =
>I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little =
>play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank
=
>are in order - what could be mo' fun?=20
>Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
>
> Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and
=
>pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
> Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under
=
>a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
> Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on =
>them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
>
>Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I =
>may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more =
>forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks =
>that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine
=
>not taking him up on that one.=20
>
>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
>
>As Always, Mucho Gracias
>AA
>
>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really,
=
>just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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>have my=20
>ole' Interceptor painted, I'm having some trouble deciding where I =
>want to=20
>land. Thus, a little play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from
=
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>
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>is no good if=20
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>Let's face=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Up until now it's been nothing more =
>than a daily=20
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=
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>sticks=20
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>size=3D2>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html</FONT></A></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Always, Mucho Gracias</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, =
>there are no=20
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>about/covering.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
>you?<BR><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>LIME GREEN with matching body armour
heehehehehehe
Don
"Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com> wrote in message news:4429d98d$1@linux...
>
> How about white, with a silver airbrushed Polar Bear head on
> the gas tank?
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, =
>>I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little =
>>play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank
> =
>>are in order - what could be mo' fun?=20
>>Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
>>
>> Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and
> =
>>pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
>> Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under
> =
>>a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
>> Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on =
>>them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
>>
>>Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I =
>>may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more =
>>forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks =
>>that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine
> =
>>not taking him up on that one.=20
>>
>>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
>>
>>As Always, Mucho Gracias
>>AA
>>
>>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really,
> =
>>just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>><HTML><HEAD>
>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>><STYLE></STYLE>
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>><BODY>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I near the time when I'm going to =
>>have my=20
>>ole' Interceptor painted, I'm having some trouble deciding where I =
>>want to=20
>>land. Thus, a little play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from
> =
>>the=20
>>Paris think tank are in order - what could be mo' fun? </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Things I'm looking at the top of the =
>>list=20
>>are:</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Upkeep</U> (for =
>>instance, black=20
>>looks great but always needs cleaning and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to
> =
>>
>>fix)</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Visibility</U>. Color =
>>is no good if=20
>>it's mixed with my broken body under a pickup cause they =
>>"didn't see"=20
>>me.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Cool factor.</U> =
>>Let's face=20
>>it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on them. (yes, I realize =
>>this ain't=20
>>no Harley!)</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Up until now it's been nothing more =
>>than a daily=20
>>driver, but I think I may want to push a little fun on that now that the
> =
>>weather=20
>>is more forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the =
>>sticks=20
>>that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine
> =
>>not=20
>>taking him up on that one. </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><A href=3D"http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html"><FONT =
>>face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html</FONT></A></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Always, Mucho Gracias</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, =
>>there are no=20
>>wrong answers really, just looking for what I may not be thinking=20
>>about/covering.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>>and=20
>>you?<BR><A=20
>>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>You could go with a theme. Paint it the Superman colors and have the diamond
shaped Superman logo on the side of the tank, or you could Paint it Gold
and have the Paris logo painted on the side. This is the Paris news group,
right??? Oh my sense of humor is not working tonight.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>
>As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, =
>I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little =
>play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank
=
>are in order - what could be mo' fun?=20
>Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
>
> Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and
=
>pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
> Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under
=
>a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
> Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on =
>them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
>
>Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I =
>may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more =
>forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks =
>that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine
=
>not taking him up on that one.=20
>
>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
>
>As Always, Mucho Gracias
>AA
>
>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really,
=
>just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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><BODY>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I near the time when I'm going to =
>have my=20
>ole' Interceptor painted, I'm having some trouble deciding where I =
>want to=20
>land. Thus, a little play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from
=
>the=20
>Paris think tank are in order - what could be mo' fun? </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Things I'm looking at the top of the =
>list=20
>are:</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Upkeep</U> (for =
>instance, black=20
>looks great but always needs cleaning and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to
=
>
>fix)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Visibility</U>. Color =
>is no good if=20
>it's mixed with my broken body under a pickup cause they =
>"didn't see"=20
>me.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Cool factor.</U> =
>Let's face=20
>it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on them. (yes, I realize =
>this ain't=20
>no Harley!)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Up until now it's been nothing more =
>than a daily=20
>driver, but I think I may want to push a little fun on that now that the
=
>weather=20
>is more forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the =
>sticks=20
>that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine
=
>not=20
>taking him up on that one. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><A href=3D"http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html"><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html</FONT></A></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Always, Mucho Gracias</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, =
>there are no=20
>wrong answers really, just looking for what I may not be thinking=20
>about/covering.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
>you?<BR><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
>I like the gold, or metallic purple...
....but then I have no taste. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>
>As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, =
>I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little =
>play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank
=
>are in order - what could be mo' fun?=20
>Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
>
> Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and
=
>pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
> Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under
=
>a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
> Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on =
>them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
>
>Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I =
>may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more =
>forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks =
>that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine
=
>not taking him up on that one.=20
>
>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
>
>As Always, Mucho Gracias
>AA
>
>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really,
=
>just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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>have my=20
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>want to=20
>land. Thus, a little play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from
=
>the=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Upkeep</U> (for =
>instance, black=20
>looks great but always needs cleaning and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to
=
>
>fix)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Visibility</U>. Color =
>is no good if=20
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>"didn't see"=20
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>Let's face=20
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>this ain't=20
>no Harley!)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>than a daily=20
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>sticks=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Always, Mucho Gracias</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>
>Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not clear.
It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've noticed
that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does a
good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
edgier.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
>
> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly a
> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or a
> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
> has
> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Barry
> >
> >
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Never mind my previous answer....never having been much of a show off, I =
personally like the subtler of the two blues...sorta like a 67 austin =
mini blowing the doors off a 97 corvette...has a nice feel about it
Don
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:4429d595$1@linux...
As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, =
I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little =
play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank =
are in order - what could be mo' fun?=20
Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning =
and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body =
under a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on =
them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I =
may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more =
forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks =
that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine =
not taking him up on that one.=20
http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
As Always, Mucho Gracias
AA
PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers =
really, just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Never mind my previous answer....never =
having been=20
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blues...sorta like=20
a 67 austin mini blowing the doors off a 97 corvette...has a nice feel =
about=20
it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I near the time when I'm going to =
have my=20
ole' Interceptor painted, I'm having some trouble deciding where =
I want=20
to land. Thus, a little play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts =
from=20
the Paris think tank are in order - what could be mo' fun? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Things I'm looking at the top of the =
list=20
are:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Upkeep</U> (for =
instance, black=20
looks great but always needs cleaning and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ =
to=20
fix)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Visibility</U>. Color =
is no good=20
if it's mixed with my broken body under a pickup cause they =
"didn't=20
see" me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Cool factor.</U> =
Let's face=20
it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on them. (yes, I realize =
this=20
ain't no Harley!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Up until now it's been nothing more =
than a daily=20
driver, but I think I may want to push a little fun on that now that =
the=20
weather is more forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out =
in the=20
sticks that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't =
imagine=20
not taking him up on that one. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Always, Mucho Gracias</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, =
there are=20
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about/covering.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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and=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C652AB.30BA7890--Dark... that's what I thought, but didn't want to prompt the
answer by saying so... see if you can get ahold of a Focusrite
Red series preamp & try that with the 4060... see if you like
that combo. You'll put some edge on that puppy, fer sure, and
still retain the fullness. Seriously, try one with that mic if
you can.
Another option for that mic might be a Chandler TG2... warm &
Neve-ish, but with a better high-end than your typical classic
Neve sound... not quite hyped, but more extended & defined,
maybe - is the way I'd describe it. Although if that mic is
already pretty warm-sounding, that combination might prove too
much in that department... might come across as a big "bump" in
the low-mids.
Now, if you just hate the mic overall, but want something to
match up nicely with the Great River, I'm sure you can find
lots of options, depending on your price range... good ol' u-87
never totally sucks (except can be midrange-honk-y on male vox
sometimes, if yaknowhutahmean); TLM-103... warmth of the GR
should help take some of the edge off; and the Baby Bottle
totally ROCKS on male vox, and would (IME) pair well with the
somewhat Neve-ishness of the Great River - I've used a Baby
Bottle through a Neve 1073 & an original LA-2A and it killed on
male (hard rock/metal) vocals.
Another option, since you're looking for a way out of "dark"
territory might be the Blueberry... a totally underrated mic,
IMO, and the top end sounds to my ears almost exactly like a
C-12, while the bottom end/low mids are definitely a bit rolled
off compared to that particular mic... couple that with the
Great River warmth, and you might be happy.
If you want to try a Baby Bottle, and/or a Blueberry, I'd
consider lending you one of each of mine in exchange for you
lending me the 4060 for awhile... I'd be curious to see how the
4060 sounded through My Chandler TG2. We'd have to agree on a
set amount of time for the mics to be away, and each agree to
pay shipping to & from on each end so it'd be fair, but I'm
always interested in trying new combinations that might serve
to enlighten, so let me know if that might be an option you
want to consider.
Honestly, though, I think your best & easiest bet might be to
grab a Muscusrite Red Series & try that 4060 out through that
& see what you think.
Neil
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not clear.
>It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've noticed
>that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does
a
>good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
>edgier.
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
>>
>> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
a
>> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
a
>> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if anyone
>> has
>> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >Barry
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I actually have this huge camel bell here in the studio that
>sounds more like a cowbell than a cowbell.......I know, this
>is heresy.
You are hereby banned from any further cowbell discussions.
A Fatwa against you for even MENTIONING this!
:)Pretty cool... nice stuff.
Only thing I could suggest is to consider making the
transitions "bigger"... it seems in each of those songs there's
a transition (like from the verse to the chorus, etc) that is
kinda begging for another guitar to be added in at the time it
hits, lead vox to be doubled, or some such stuff like that.
I like it though, nice work! :)
Neil
Jamey Tiffee <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote:
>Jamey Tiffee wrote:
>> Here you go I found a use for PT you just track in PT so the customer
>> walks away thinking they are using "the best tools". They leave you pull
>> the files into PARIS and mixdown the now great sounding music pull the
>> 24 bit mixdown wavs into Samplitude master and dither using POW-r and
>> this is what you get.
>>
>> http://www.myspace.com/thejtb
>>
>> All 3 songs done this way.
>>
>> Let me know what you think!
>>
>> PS I let the drummer whose studio we used for tracking and owned it
>> before we formed the band together. Anyway he "was" a bigtime PT
>> defender that was completely put out that I insist all the mixing be
>> done in PARIS and not his PT rig, till he heard PARIS and asked "how can
>> I make my PT mixes sound like that?", my response "You can't!"
>>
>> And yes I know what you PT guys are thinking, "Yes I can all I need is
a
>> Trident console to mixdown with!" :)
>> Jamey
>Oh yeah the MP3's were created with iTunes on PC default settings.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Definitely yellow as it travels faster than other colors and hence is =
more quickly visible. Or, maybe b/w overo, for the horse chicks :)
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:4429d595$1@linux...
As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, =
I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little =
play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank =
are in order - what could be mo' fun?=20
Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning =
and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body =
under a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on =
them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I =
may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more =
forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks =
that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine =
not taking him up on that one.=20
http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
As Always, Mucho Gracias
AA
PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers =
really, just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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overo, for=20
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href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I near the time when I'm going to =
have my=20
ole' Interceptor painted, I'm having some trouble deciding where =
I want=20
to land. Thus, a little play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts =
from=20
the Paris think tank are in order - what could be mo' fun? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Things I'm looking at the top of the =
list=20
are:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Upkeep</U> (for =
instance, black=20
looks great but always needs cleaning and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ =
to=20
fix)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Visibility</U>. Color =
is no good=20
if it's mixed with my broken body under a pickup cause they =
"didn't=20
see" me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <U>Cool factor.</U> =
Let's face=20
it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on them. (yes, I realize =
this=20
ain't no Harley!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Up until now it's been nothing more =
than a daily=20
driver, but I think I may want to push a little fun on that now that =
the=20
weather is more forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out =
in the=20
sticks that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't =
imagine=20
not taking him up on that one. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Always, Mucho Gracias</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, =
there are=20
no wrong answers really, just looking for what I may not be thinking=20
about/covering.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C652AC.33A45CA0--The bad news?
Typing Paris Newsgroup into google fails to show any relevant sites in the
top 100 listed, far as I could see. Poop.
On the other hand...
Googling "Paris Newsgroup" (in quotes) brings parisfaqs.com to the top. Paris.hiddensounds.com
is at six. news.parisnewsgroup.com is at eighteen.
Googling Ensoniq Paris Newsgroup brought homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/
to the top of the list (which is basically www.parisfaqs.com). new.parisnewsgroup.com
also showed up at number eleven.
EmuEnsoniq paris newsgroup only brings two results. Paris.hiddensounds.com
and news.parisnewsgroup.com, which are both the same site. Can't miss with
that one.
Emu Ensoniq Paris Newsgroup once again brings Parisfaqs to the top of the
list. Paris.hiddensounds.com comes up second, with news.parisnewsgroup.com
at seven.
Emu Paris Newsgroup once again brings parisfaqs up as first. news.parisnewsgroup.com
is at eight.
Google appears to have dropped the links to the old www.greatidea.com links.
Unfortunately Paris Newsgroup not in quotes doesn't get us on the list, but
anybody who adds a brand name in should be able to find us.
Looks like we've survived the change of url.
Cheers,
Kim.This sounds like an option. Where are you located. I'm in Milwaukee. Any
other Parisians in this area.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429f5f5$1@linux...
>
> Dark... that's what I thought, but didn't want to prompt the
> answer by saying so... see if you can get ahold of a Focusrite
> Red series preamp & try that with the 4060... see if you like
> that combo. You'll put some edge on that puppy, fer sure, and
> still retain the fullness. Seriously, try one with that mic if
> you can.
>
> Another option for that mic might be a Chandler TG2... warm &
> Neve-ish, but with a better high-end than your typical classic
> Neve sound... not quite hyped, but more extended & defined,
> maybe - is the way I'd describe it. Although if that mic is
> already pretty warm-sounding, that combination might prove too
> much in that department... might come across as a big "bump" in
> the low-mids.
>
> Now, if you just hate the mic overall, but want something to
> match up nicely with the Great River, I'm sure you can find
> lots of options, depending on your price range... good ol' u-87
> never totally sucks (except can be midrange-honk-y on male vox
> sometimes, if yaknowhutahmean); TLM-103... warmth of the GR
> should help take some of the edge off; and the Baby Bottle
> totally ROCKS on male vox, and would (IME) pair well with the
> somewhat Neve-ishness of the Great River - I've used a Baby
> Bottle through a Neve 1073 & an original LA-2A and it killed on
> male (hard rock/metal) vocals.
>
> Another option, since you're looking for a way out of "dark"
> territory might be the Blueberry... a totally underrated mic,
> IMO, and the top end sounds to my ears almost exactly like a
> C-12, while the bottom end/low mids are definitely a bit rolled
> off compared to that particular mic... couple that with the
> Great River warmth, and you might be happy.
>
> If you want to try a Baby Bottle, and/or a Blueberry, I'd
> consider lending you one of each of mine in exchange for you
> lending me the 4060 for awhile... I'd be curious to see how the
> 4060 sounded through My Chandler TG2. We'd have to agree on a
> set amount of time for the mics to be away, and each agree to
> pay shipping to & from on each end so it'd be fair, but I'm
> always interested in trying new combinations that might serve
> to enlighten, so let me know if that might be an option you
> want to consider.
>
> Honestly, though, I think your best & easiest bet might be to
> grab a Muscusrite Red Series & try that 4060 out through that
> & see what you think.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not
clear.
> >It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've
noticed
> >that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does
> a
> >good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
> >edgier.
> >
> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
> >>
> >> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
> a
> >> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River or
> a
> >> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if
anyone
> >> has
> >> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
> >> >Barry
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Something about this thread made me think: "What if the Funklogic boys
made special plates for Paris MECs?"
I think that would be pretty cool. I would spend a few dollars for
something to dress up my otherwise unpopulpated MEC, wouldn't you?
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few plates
>aren't floating around..
>
>Don
>I'm in El paso, West Texas. I'm guessing safe & reasonably
rapid shipping would be anywhere from 15 to 30 bucks each way
if you want to swap mics temporarily, if that's what you're
alluding to. The more I think about it, though, from what I've
heard about the 4060, the more I think you'll like the
Mucusrite Red for that mic... are there any dealers in
your area you could check one out through?
Neil
"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>This sounds like an option. Where are you located. I'm in Milwaukee. Any
>other Parisians in this area.
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429f5f5$1@linux...
>>
>> Dark... that's what I thought, but didn't want to prompt the
>> answer by saying so... see if you can get ahold of a Focusrite
>> Red series preamp & try that with the 4060... see if you like
>> that combo. You'll put some edge on that puppy, fer sure, and
>> still retain the fullness. Seriously, try one with that mic if
>> you can.
>>
>> Another option for that mic might be a Chandler TG2... warm &
>> Neve-ish, but with a better high-end than your typical classic
>> Neve sound... not quite hyped, but more extended & defined,
>> maybe - is the way I'd describe it. Although if that mic is
>> already pretty warm-sounding, that combination might prove too
>> much in that department... might come across as a big "bump" in
>> the low-mids.
>>
>> Now, if you just hate the mic overall, but want something to
>> match up nicely with the Great River, I'm sure you can find
>> lots of options, depending on your price range... good ol' u-87
>> never totally sucks (except can be midrange-honk-y on male vox
>> sometimes, if yaknowhutahmean); TLM-103... warmth of the GR
>> should help take some of the edge off; and the Baby Bottle
>> totally ROCKS on male vox, and would (IME) pair well with the
>> somewhat Neve-ishness of the Great River - I've used a Baby
>> Bottle through a Neve 1073 & an original LA-2A and it killed on
>> male (hard rock/metal) vocals.
>>
>> Another option, since you're looking for a way out of "dark"
>> territory might be the Blueberry... a totally underrated mic,
>> IMO, and the top end sounds to my ears almost exactly like a
>> C-12, while the bottom end/low mids are definitely a bit rolled
>> off compared to that particular mic... couple that with the
>> Great River warmth, and you might be happy.
>>
>> If you want to try a Baby Bottle, and/or a Blueberry, I'd
>> consider lending you one of each of mine in exchange for you
>> lending me the 4060 for awhile... I'd be curious to see how the
>> 4060 sounded through My Chandler TG2. We'd have to agree on a
>> set amount of time for the mics to be away, and each agree to
>> pay shipping to & from on each end so it'd be fair, but I'm
>> always interested in trying new combinations that might serve
>> to enlighten, so let me know if that might be an option you
>> want to consider.
>>
>> Honestly, though, I think your best & easiest bet might be to
>> grab a Muscusrite Red Series & try that 4060 out through that
>> & see what you think.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >Thanks for the ideas. The 4060 on my voice is dark, nasally and not
>clear.
>> >It seems to take the bite out of everything and smooth it over. I've
>noticed
>> >that it's a good mic for someone that sings very loudly because it does
>> a
>> >good job of mellowing everything out. I'm looking for something a little
>> >edgier.
>> >
>> >"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4429ce77$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> What don't you like about the 4060? Just curious.
>> >>
>> >> Neil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >I'm starting to explore some new options for a microphone and possibly
>> a
>> >> >preamp. Currently, I am running an AT4060 into either a Great River
or
>> a
>> >> >Peavey VMP-2. I'm not happy with the AT4060 and was wondering if
>anyone
>> >> has
>> >> >some combos that they are ecstatic about for vocals.
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >Barry
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Thank You Steve!!
I will seriously consider a DRUMAGOG then.
Thanks for offering me help! You will hear from me if I need help - again
thanks!
CJG
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>Hello CJG,
>I just installed it yesterday. I am totally blown away with Drumogog in
my
>Paris! I always have a hard time getting the bass drum track to sound the
>way I want it to. Soooo I installed Drumagog as an insert and it will replace
>the bass drum notes with the sampled bass drum of my choice. Velocity and
>everything!I would be honored to walk you through step by step how to installand
>use drumagog in paris in a 400 mhz G4.
>Steve Cox Productions
>"CJG" <grimmark@telia.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi
>>I just got offf the phone with a friend who said that no sound-replacer
>works
>>well with Paris bur he recommended drumagog and Logic. Are You guys successful
>>in using Drumagog with Paris on mac? My mac is an old 400 Mhz G4.
>>
>>Thanks!!!
>>CJG
>Do you have all the appropriate keyword strings in all their
likely search permutations set in HTML for the homepage? For
example: "Paris Newsgroup, Paris News Group, Paris FAQ, Paris
Users, Paris Users Group, Paris -Hilton, Paris -Hilton FAQ,
Paris DAW, Paris Audio, Emu Paris, Ensoniq Paris, EmuEnsoniq
Paris, Paris MEC, Paris EDS, Paris 442, Paris Converters, Paris
Gear, Paris Gear for sale, Paris gear 4 Sale", etc, etc, etc.
I know you're a pretty smart guy with regard to this stuff,
Kimmers, so you prolly already know this, but just in case you
didn't, you may want to add these keyword strings to your
homepage HTML, separated my commas, as indicated. Again, please
don't be offended if you already have this stuff set up, I just
thought I'd mention it, in case you weren't aware of how much
this can increase the search engine rankings, depending on what
people type in in any given search engine, Google or otherwise.
Neil
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The bad news?
>
>Typing Paris Newsgroup into google fails to show any relevant sites in the
>top 100 listed, far as I could see. Poop.
>
>On the other hand...
>
>Googling "Paris Newsgroup" (in quotes) brings parisfaqs.com to the top.
Paris.hiddensounds.com
>is at six. news.parisnewsgroup.com is at eighteen.
>
>Googling Ensoniq Paris Newsgroup brought homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/
>to the top of the list (which is basically www.parisfaqs.com). new.parisnewsgroup.com
>also showed up at number eleven.
>
>EmuEnsoniq paris newsgroup only brings two results. Paris.hiddensounds.com
>and news.parisnewsgroup.com, which are both the same site. Can't miss with
>that one.
>
>Emu Ensoniq Paris Newsgroup once again brings Parisfaqs to the top of the
>list. Paris.hiddensounds.com comes up second, with news.parisnewsgroup.com
>at seven.
>
>Emu Paris Newsgroup once again brings parisfaqs up as first. news.parisnewsgroup.com
>is at eight.
>
>Google appears to have dropped the links to the old www.greatidea.com links.
>Unfortunately Paris Newsgroup not in quotes doesn't get us on the list,
but
>anybody who adds a brand name in should be able to find us.
>
>Looks like we've survived the change of url.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim."Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I know you're a pretty smart guy with regard to this stuff,
>Kimmers, so you prolly already know this...
Indeed I do already know this, but I am slack to the same degree that I am
knowledgable, and hence while I do know that you can add metatags and keywords
to allow search engines to better understand what the site is about, I'm
yet to actually do it, so your reminder is quite fair. ;o)
The fact that we've done this well without me even really trying shows just
how well the site would probably do if I was to put the effort in. I should
get off my proverbial. I do have some web stuff I need to do in the next
monthor so. It may be time for an update to the newsgroup site, at which
point I can update some of those bad links on the site, and insert some keyword
tags and the like...
Indeed, to get things moving, I might start a thread...
Cheers,
Kim.I need (rather badly) to do an update of the newsgroup website. Those who
visit via the website may well have noticed the (hopelessly outdated) list
of Paris links on the site.
I'd like to get a list of all the Paris sites that are about. I beleive about
half the ones already listed are still working. I'm pretty sure I've heard
a couple thrown around on the group here that I don't have up there however.
So, I'd be really greatful if some people could name all the sites that are
out there, which no doubt many of you have stashed in your bookmarks. Also,
anybody who has their own little archives and wants to share, now's the time.
:o)
Time to get stuff in some kind of order around here. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.(715) 387-6740 any time....stevec1@charter.net www.stevecoxproductions.com
"CJG" <grimmark@telia.com> wrote:
>
>Thank You Steve!!
>I will seriously consider a DRUMAGOG then.
>Thanks for offering me help! You will hear from me if I need help - again
>thanks!
>
>CJG
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hello CJG,
>>I just installed it yesterday. I am totally blown away with Drumogog in
>my
>>Paris! I always have a hard time getting the bass drum track to sound the
>>way I want it to. Soooo I installed Drumagog as an insert and it will replace
>>the bass drum notes with the sampled bass drum of my choice. Velocity and
>>everything!I would be honored to walk you through step by step how to installand
>>use drumagog in paris in a 400 mhz G4.
>>Steve Cox Productions
>>"CJG" <grimmark@telia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi
>>>I just got offf the phone with a friend who said that no sound-replacer
>>works
>>>well with Paris bur he recommended drumagog and Logic. Are You guys successful
>>>in using Drumagog with Paris on mac? My mac is an old 400 Mhz G4.
>>>
>>>Thanks!!!
>>>CJG
>>
>Thanks James,
yeahhh..... I know... I appologized, but I amay have to fly over there n'
see him, maybe take him and his wife out for supper or something. Not sure
yet. but, I did stick my foot in my mouth.
Steve
"James McClsokey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Steve! I just wanted to jump in here and say a few things. First welcome
>to the NG! I've been here since, well, I think around 1997, mostly lurking,
>and learning. A lot of the greats have moved on, and a lot of the greats
>are still here, and some still pop in every once in awhile. If you stick
>around this place it will grow on you.
>
>I have to step up and say that I think that there must have been a bit of
>a miss understanding, or something. It's too bad you got off to a bad start
>here, hopefully things will get ironed out. I have to say that Tony is
one
>of the coolest guys here, and I hope you guys get to know each other, so
>to speak. I will personally vouch for both of you guys and say that your
>both good guys, honest men and great to do business with. Tony has always
>been willing to help out with questions, especially Mac questions. I also
>know that you will be a great asset to the NG, if you choose to stick around.
> Both of you guys have personally volunteered to help me out and even picked
>up the phone to do so, and I really appreciate that, thanks!
>
>Again, welcome to the Paris news group!
>
>James
>
>
>
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>Steve,
>>
>>I have another theory on why you might get help more often when talking
>on
>>the phone. In my experience, (and this thread is a prime example) it's
>>pretty difficult to ask a complicated question, or give a complicated answer
>
>>in just a few words. Both parties assume the other understands what they
>
>>meant when often there just isn't enough information exchanged. Had we
>>talked on the phone, I'm sure through the course of trouble shooting we
>may
>>well have figured out what the hang up was. With that said, if you can
>>contact the software vendor directly, they may have the answer right away,
>
>>as they've probably seen the problem before. Unfortunately, all vendors
>
>>aren't nearly as accommodating as Rim Buntinas is and sometimes we have
>to
>>work together through trial and error to figure stuff out.
>>
>>Over the years this group has developed into much more of a community of
>
>>PARIS and former PARIS users and fewer and fewer technical questions come
>
>>up. Though I've never meant many of the people I talk with here, I have
>a
>>definite sense that they are my friends and many times the banter tends
>to
>>be jovial. Don't get me wrong, everyone here can and will be helpful with
>
>>PARIS questions, but if you are looking for strictly technical support,
>you
>>will be disappointed with much of the "fluff" we engage in. With some
>>patience, there is a phenomenal amount of collective brain power here to
>be
>>tapped. This includes all areas of recording, not just PARIS related.
>>
>>There are a million things I don't know about Macs and PARIS, but if you
>
>>ever want to bounce a question my way, feel free to give me a call.
>>515-233-3191. I have a day gig, so call in the evening CST if I'll need
>to
>>be at my rig. I might not have a quick answer for you, but I'll be glad
>to
>>do what I can to help.
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442953df$1@linux...
>>>
>>> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that
>you
>>> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
>>> community
>>> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
>
>>> struck
>>> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
>>> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was refered
>>> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all
the
>>> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out
>and
>>> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check
>it.
>>> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type
in
>
>>> the
>>> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
>
>>> me,
>>> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST pluggins"
>>> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
>
>>> garage
>>> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way
>I
>>> have
>>> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call them.
>>> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to
act
>>> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
>>> psychics
>>> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
>
>>> professional.
>>> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come
>to
>>> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to
>
>>> swear
>>> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was
>told
>>> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from
>
>>> others
>>> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me.
>
>>> Check
>>> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay
low
>>> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if
>you
>>> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no folder
>>> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
>>> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
>>> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be
how
>>> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
>
>>> have
>>> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog
was
>>> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I will
>>> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony,
>I
>>> appologise.
>>> Steve Cox
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>Hey Steve
>>>>
>>>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post follow
>>>
>>>>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is
>very
>>>
>>>>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most obviously
>>>
>>>>dumb questions around.
>>>>
>>>>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level
>of
>>>
>>>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>>>
>>>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just unaware
>>> of
>>>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just
take
>>>>> it
>>>>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>>
>>>>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can
>>>>>>follow
>>>>>
>>>>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been
>>>>>>running
>>>>>
>>>>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>>>>couldn't
>>>>>
>>>>>>have been easier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the
>>>>>>> drumagog
>>>>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>>>>> Rem.....
>>>>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing
>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That
is
>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on
the
>>>
>>>>>>> Hard
>>>>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do
the
>>>
>>>>>>> "Easy
>>>>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder
>in
>>>
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run
this
>>>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one
>for
>>>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware
>was
>>>
>>>>> available,
>>>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the first
>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know,
>
>>>>> this
>>>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I rarely
>>>
>>>>> post
>>>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help,
>I
>>> get
>>>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>
>>>>> while
>>>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio
>time
>>>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>>>> comments
>>>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hey Don,
Did I respond to this one before, telling you I would check on it? Well,
I have three fronts and three backs. Black.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Thanks Tony, greatly appreciated
>
>DOn
>
>
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>news:44299fb4$1@linux...
>>I might Don. I'll dig around in the closet when I get home and let you
>>know.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44299ceb@linux...
>>> Thanks a million Rick
>>>
>>> Anyone got a couple of front plates
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:p71j229olpt1t1o1se8me4i8i4nav35crn@4ax.com...
>>>> shoot me yo address and i can get the backs out to you.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:14:33 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'm looking for two of each (front and back) preferably black but not
>>>>>necessary
>>>>>
>>>>>DOn
>>>>>
>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:khqi229jc91rpof4m1b7ig5ur7aqvsfknh@4ax.com...
>>>>>> front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few
>>>>>>>plates
>>>>>>>aren't floating around..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Samplitube plugin for Paris? tell me more Jamey Tiffee. I have IKs Amplitube
and T-Racks. Is this another one of their plugins? If so can you tell me
how it could benifit me in Paris?
Steve Cox ProductionsDo you want them? Steve
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4429d2f3$1@linux...
>
>
>> And not black enough
>
>shit did I say that out loud
>
>:-o
>
>Don
>
>Gee, things have changed since the Ensoniq FAQ of April '97:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970403201456/paris.ensoniq.com/ parisfaq.htm
PARIS FAQ
FAQ navigation:
1. What is PARIS?
2. Who's selling PARIS?
3. Interface 442 features?
4. Interface MEC features?
5. Minimum Requirements?
6. What file formats does PARIS use and support?
7. How will PARIS implement automation?
8. Will PARIS have good plug-in effects?
9. Can PARIS accept Plug-ins?
10. Will PARIS be compatible with Intel MMX processors?
11. How many channels can you include in a submix?
12. Quicktime support?
13. Which digital sequencer software program will work with PARIS?
14. What are the MIDI capabilities of the PARIS sequencer?
15. How many simultaneous playback channels can PARIS have (8?, 16?, 24?)?
16. How many inputs and outputs can each EDS-1000 card handle?
17. How will PARIS handle dithering?
18. Can I do all my mixing and analog I/O through PARIS, without using
a mixer?
19. Staying updated on PARIS?
20. How can I get the complete specifications available for PARIS?
21. Will Paris import SMF format sequences?
22. What if I have more questions that are not answered on this FAQ document?
Q1: What is PARIS?
A: PARIS (Professional Audio Recording Integrated System) is a versatile,
expandable recording/mixing/processing system. The core system consists of
ENSONIQ's EDS-1000 PCI card and a cross-platform CD-ROM containing software
that runs under either the MacOS or Windows 95/NT operating systems. The
PARIS software provides an intuitive and highly responsive graphic interface
for the system's integral automated 128-track digital recorder and mixer,
complete with four-band parametric EQ, aux sends and real-time DSP effects,
including dynamics processing and high-quality reverb. PARIS supports plug-ins
for additional effects and software features with an open software architecture
which will be available to third-party developers. PARIS also supports the
use of multiple cards to further extend real-time processing power and I/O
capability.
The EDS-1000 PCI card is equipped with connectors for an expandable input/output
system and a dedicated hardware control surface. External input/output options
include the basic two-channel audio external Interface 2, the Interface 442,
and the expandable mainframe Interface MEC (Modular Expansion Chassis). The
mainframe's basic configuration provides an essential complement of analog
and digital I/O, as well as video and word-clock synchronization. The mainframe
also provides expansion slots for a family of modules designed to allow the
user to fully customize the system configuration. Add-on Modules will include
Analog I/O (XLR and TRS jacks), Digital I/O (S/P DIF and AES/EBU), ADAT Optical,
Tascam TDIF, and SMPTE Timecode units.
TOP
Q2: Who will be selling PARIS?
A: We are now developing a network of ENSONIQ Digital Systems dealers. We
are looking for dealers who are best qualified to sell and support PARIS.
The official dealer list will be announced as we get closer to the launch
date.
TOP
Q3: What are the features of the Interface 442?
A: The Interface 442 is a 1U rack-mountable enclosure which connects to the
EDS-1000 PCI card. It provides four analog inputs, four analog outputs and
one stereo digital input and output (S/PDIF), as well as an external sync
input and output and a connector for an Interface 2 module. The front panel
has eight analog signal level indicators as well as sync and sample rate
status LEDs.
TOP
Q4: What are the features of the Interface MEC?
A: The Interface MEC comes with four analog inputs, four analog outputs,
one stereo digital input and output (S/PDIF), external sync input and output
connectors, and a front panel headphone output as standard features, and
can accommodate up to nine additional expansion modules. The expansion modules
typically contain two, four or eight inputs or outputs, depending on the
function and type of connectors used on the module. For example, when XLR
connectors are required for analog outputs, there are four per module. Another
example is the ADAT interface, which will provide eight inputs and outputs
on a single module. Each EDS-1000 card can be connected to one Interface
442 or Interface MEC, providing a total of up to 20 inputs and 20 outputs
per card. The maximum system configuration will be three to four cards typically,
and is limited by the number of available PCI slots as well as CPU speed
and power.
TOP
Q5: What are the minimum computer requirements for PARIS?
A: As we get closer to the release of PARIS we will have more specific information
on computer requirements and compatibility. Based on preliminary testing
we feel that PARIS will work efficiently on a computer with a 120 MHz or
higher PowerPC or a 133 or higher Pentium. Compatible computers must have
at least one available full-size PCI slot.
TOP
Q6: What file formats does PARIS use and support?
A: PARIS supports Sound Designer II/Pro Tools, .WAV and AIFF file formats,
in addition to the special optimized native PARIS 24-bit format.
TOP
Q7: How will PARIS implement automation?
A: All standard mixer controls, including faders, panning and effect returns,
will be automated.
TOP
Q8: Will PARIS have good plug-in effects?
A: The quality of our plug-in effects is very high. The same superb effects
that are available in our new fully professional DP/Pro 24-bit Effects Processor
will be available for PARIS, and we have received inquiries from numerous
third-party plug-in developers about providing support for PARIS.
TOP
Q9: Can PARIS accept FX plug-ins?
A: We have also been contacted by many of the 3rd party plug-in manufacturers
and are working with them to ensure that there will be many plug-ins available
for PARIS as soon as possible.
TOP
Q10: Will PARIS be compatible with Intel MMX processors?
A: PARIS will be compatible with MMX processors, and we intend to provide
specific support for MMX capabilities as well as multiple processors. While
this support may not be available in the initial release, it will be implemented
as soon as possible.
TOP
Q11: How many channels can you include in a submix?
A: The submix of the current 16 channels being mixed is invisibly computed
and updated continuously while you are working, and should never take longer
than one pass to compute. Depending on the number of EDS-1000 cards in the
system, the speed of the CPU and the capabilities of the disk subsystem,
more than one 16 channel submix may be computed in real time (as opposed
to using the "invisible" submix tracks).
TOP
Q12: Will PARIS provide QuickTime support?
A: We are planning to offer support for QuickTime in PARIS, but more detailed
information is not available at this time.
TOP
Q13: Which digital sequencer software program will work with PARIS?
A: ENSONIQ has been contacted by almost every software sequencer manufacturer
on the market today regarding this subject. We believe that compatibility
is important and are developing a program which will allow other software
programs to use our hardware. At the recent Frankfurt Musikmesse, we had
meetings with several leading manufacturers including Steinberg and Emagic,
who expressed interest in adapting their products to support the PARIS hardware.
TOP
Q14: What are the MIDI capabilities of the PARIS sequencer?
A: The PARIS sequencer will allow MIDI data to be managed transparently within
the same editing environment as the audio data, and should prove to be a
viable and attractive alternative to other dedicated sequencer applications.
PARIS version 1.0 will include all commonly used MIDI sequencer features,
including support for Standard MIDI Files (SMF), sophisticated non-destructive
quantization, and both event list and "piano roll" editing of MIDI data.
TOP
Q15: How many simultaneous playback channels can PARIS have (8?, 16?, 24?)?
A: A single card system will support a minimum of 16 simultaneous real-time
playback tracks, and probably more, up to the limits of the disk subsystem,
the CPU and the cards installed. You are always working within one of the
eight 16-channel submixes.
TOP
Q16: How many inputs and outputs can each EDS-1000 card handle?
A: One EDS-1000 card can handle a maximum of 20 inputs and 20 outputs when
connected to an Interface MEC with the appropriate expansion modules installed.
TOP
Q17: How will PARIS handle dithering?
A: PARIS will be able to mix down to stereo master tracks which can be compiled
into a CD master image file suitable for use with CD mastering software.
It is possible that some of these features may be included in the PARIS application.
TOP
Q18: Can I do all my mixing and analog I/O through PARIS, without using a
mixer?
A: PARIS will have everything needed except microphone pre-amps, and we expect
to be offering them as another option in the future.
TOP
Q19: How can I stay up to date on PARIS?
A: The best way to stay up to date on PARIS will be through the PARIS web
site at:
http://www.paris.ensoniq.com
We will be updating the site weekly as new information becomes available.
TOP
Q20: How can I get the complete specifications available for PARIS?
A: The latest specifications available for PARIS at this point can be found
at the following URL:
http://www.paris.ensoniq.com/thespecs.htm
TOP
Q21: What if I have more questions that are not answered on this FAQ document?
A: As we approach the target release of the PARIS system, we do not yet have
all of the final specifications and features available. We will be posting
updated information on this Web site as we move closer to the release date.
Please check the site regularly for updated information.
However, if you do have a specific question please feel free to send it to
me at: parisweb@ensoniq.com
Q22: Will Paris import SMF format sequences?
A:Paris will be able to import Standard MIDI File format sequences from the
sequencing program of your choice." We will be updating the site weekly as
new information becomes available.I recirded a lovely and sensitive acoustic guitar intro today,
Originally the band was playing under but we decided to use acoutic only.
So, after paying to the backing drum track, the guitarist after many takes
got it perfect. Unfortunately, after muting the drums, it became apparent
that one of my cats, Clyde, who has a sinus problem, was asleep next to the
guitarist, snoring up a storm. It's kind of charming, but I am wondering
now if I can write off his vet bills next year.Steve... you have been lucky enough to stumble upon a forum
that contains a metric buttload of killer minds, that never
cease to amaze me in what they know, how they know it, and how
they apply it, across a very wide number of fields of
endeavor... really, truly.
Anyway, I'm going to reply to a bit of your last post, so read
onward, if you please:
>Alright... you have a community of folks here and I rather new
>to the forum have posted something that struck a nerve.
Easy to do in any forum where you're the "newbie",
fuggeddaboudit; these people are forgiving.
>Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I
>was refered to this site, told just what you guys are all
>saying here, about all the old pros of the Paris n'all.....
>Great!! so I started checking it out and see what gets covered
>on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check it.
>Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris.
What do expect from old pros... they already know all about
Paris & use it every day... you think a guy who's been using it
for five years & has it down is going to have a question about
how to edit something or whatnot? Unlikely... so they talk
about politics & the weather, and in Deej's case, how many
skunks & bears his fucking huge dogs ate last week.
>In fact, type in the word Paris in the search engine. Know
>what you'll find?
Hilton? A city in France? A link to a website selling a creepy
sex video?
>The only way I have ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed
>someone and asked if I may call them.
>THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be
>accountable to act
No, because then you asked someone a specific question about a
specific thing... you got the same help here by doing just
that. If you had posted the same question on rec-audio-pro, you
would've gotten one guy who told you (no matter what the issue
was & what gear you were using) that you were using shit gear
because it wasn't 2" analog and that was your problem, another
who would've told you if it ain't Pro-Tools, it sucks, and
another who would've asked what genre of music you were
recording, what mics you were using, what preamps, etc., as if
that had anything to do with your particular question, and if
you had gotten one good answer, it would've been from someone
on this group who also happens to post there from time to time.
Here you had just a couple of questions from those trying to
help, and at least one good answer that you also happened to
have duplicated from Rim... good for him for knowing how to give
good support to his clients.
>In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I
>don't come to the forum to screw around,
Well, then you're in the wrong place, MUTHAFUCKA!!! because
there's lots of screwing around going on here... there ALWAYS
is among friends, though, isn't there? There's also lots of
good info, as well, however, so you ought to consider hanging
around.
>I come here because I was told that this is a website of
>professional people who can ask for help from others
>who have been through the mill. This is a very serious
>business for me.
It's a very serious business for lots of people here, and it's
also a hobby for lots of peope here, and it's also something in
between for lots of people here. Point is, many of the "lots of
people here" might just - and don't be offended when I say
this - MIGHT JUST know more about your Paris setup and how to
get the most out of it than you do, regardless of how seriously
they each take it in terms of career or monetary gains; and the
reason for that is because they're all passionate about the
system, and are always looking for ways to improve on what
they've got... lemme give you a few examples of what people on
this NG have done for the Paris User Collective; get ready to
be somewhat impressed:
A.) Did you know that Chuck Duffy, the guy who originally
started this newsgroup, ran & maintained the servers
on his own dime in Maryland for a number of years, including
this particular URL, plus a chatserver? Never aked for a penny
of help from anyone, and only did this to help all Paris users.
Passionate about the system.
B.) Did you know that Kim in Australia, the guy who currently
serves up this NG, runs & maintains the servers on his own
dime? Also hasn't asked for a penny of help from anyone, though
a number of folks have offered. Passionate about the system.
C.) Did you know that even though Emu/Ensoniq, and Intelligent
Devices ceased supporting Paris, people on this users group who
are also programmers had come up with a driver for windows XP
so that you can run Paris on updated Windows systems? I forget
who did this, but good lord, think about it... users concocting
& writing their own drivers, and you can get the for free! How
often do you find that? (never). Passonate about the system.
D.) Did you know that the previously-mentioned Chuck Duffy is
also a programmer, and that he ported a bunch of Ensoniq plug-
ins from other platforms over to the Paris EDS format, and also
wrote some new ones, and then made them available for a very
reasonable fee, and finally (recently) made them available for
absolutely NOTHING!???! Ask nicely after reading this post, and
someone might point you to them.
Anyway, I'm not even a Paris user anymore and I still hang out
here... One reason is that I like these guys, and another
reason is that the collective brain trust is pretty
remarkable... want to know about a certain mic or preamp?
Chances are someone here has used it. Want to know about how to
sync an external app (VSTi on a separate computer, MIDI, Synth
Workstation, Video, etc.) to Paris? Chances are someone here
has done it. Want to know if a '67 SG with black soapbars
sounds better through a newer Marshall or an older Mesa for a
Blink-182 sound, or whether a Shiny Box ribbon sounds better
than a Royer on an upright bass, or if you should go with a
set of Mackie 824's or Dynaudio BM5A's for your new set of
nearfields, you'll get lots of good & very useful opinions here.
It's a lot more than just a Paris users group, if you get my
drift, and well worth being a part of, so stick around.
NeilDoes anybody know the official Paris release date? It was '97 wasn't it?
Google says it was available December '97 at least. Must have been sooner.
Anybody know the date, or have a better idea? Let's celebrate the 10th anniversary
next year! :o)
I remember this page "back in the day":
http://web.archive.org/web/19970717151612/www.paris.ensoniq. com/html/paris.htm
....and this one...
http://web.archive.org/web/19980627231724/http://www.paris.e nsoniq.com/
Ah, the memories. Back when I thought Ensoniq would keep their promises,
and that digital home studios would take the power back from the record companies
back to the artists... oh how dreams are shattered. ;o)
Anyhow, we should have a birthday. If we can't find a date we need to make
one up! :o)
Which brings forth another important question. When did the newsgroup start?
I remember it was around by mid '98 when I bought Paris.
Or is all this information lost in the depths of the great beyond...?
I know I took the NG over September '04. I have the date somewhere. Think
it was the 19th... ...in any case the newsgroup archives stretch back to
a year before I took it over. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.Well you could download cat de-snorer from digital fish phones as you suggested...
;o)
....or you could use Antares Snorto-tune, which will at least put the snoring
back in tune with the guitar. ;o)
Personally I'd just drown the cat out with some cowbells or some mooing from
Line 6's Cow-Farm. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>I recirded a lovely and sensitive acoustic guitar intro today,
>Originally the band was playing under but we decided to use acoutic only.
>So, after paying to the backing drum track, the guitarist after many takes
>got it perfect. Unfortunately, after muting the drums, it became apparent
>that one of my cats, Clyde, who has a sinus problem, was asleep next to
the
>guitarist, snoring up a storm. It's kind of charming, but I am wondering
>now if I can write off his vet bills next year.
>It was November 1997.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:442a19c2$1@linux...
>
>
> Does anybody know the official Paris release date? It was '97 wasn't it?
> Google says it was available December '97 at least. Must have been sooner.
> Anybody know the date, or have a better idea? Let's celebrate the 10th
anniversary
> next year! :o)
>
> I remember this page "back in the day":
>
>
http://web.archive.org/web/19970717151612/www.paris.ensoniq. com/html/paris.h
tm
>
> ...and this one...
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/19980627231724/http://www.paris.e nsoniq.com/
>
> Ah, the memories. Back when I thought Ensoniq would keep their promises,
> and that digital home studios would take the power back from the record
companies
> back to the artists... oh how dreams are shattered. ;o)
>
> Anyhow, we should have a birthday. If we can't find a date we need to make
> one up! :o)
>
> Which brings forth another important question. When did the newsgroup
start?
> I remember it was around by mid '98 when I bought Paris.
>
> Or is all this information lost in the depths of the great beyond...?
>
> I know I took the NG over September '04. I have the date somewhere. Think
> it was the 19th... ...in any case the newsgroup archives stretch back to
> a year before I took it over. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim."Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I know you're a pretty smart guy with regard to this stuff,
>>Kimmers, so you prolly already know this...
>
>Indeed I do already know this, but I am slack to the same degree that I
am
>knowledgable, and hence while I do know that you can add metatags and keywords
>to allow search engines to better understand what the site is about, I'm
>yet to actually do it, so your reminder is quite fair. ;o)
>
>The fact that we've done this well without me even really trying shows just
>how well the site would probably do if I was to put the effort in. I should
>get off my proverbial. I do have some web stuff I need to do in the next
>monthor so. It may be time for an update to the newsgroup site, at which
>point I can update some of those bad links on the site, and insert some
keyword
>tags and the like...
>
>Indeed, to get things moving, I might start a thread...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
OK then, for starters, just try copying & pasting this exact
thread into your HTML for the homepage:
<meta name="Keywords" content="Paris Newsgroup, Paris News
Group, Paris FAQ, Paris Users, Paris Users Group, Paris
-Hilton, Paris -Hilton FAQ, Paris DAW, Paris Audio, Emu Paris,
Ensoniq Paris, EmuEnsoniq Paris, Paris MEC, Paris EDS, Paris
442, Paris Converters, Paris Gear, Paris Gear for sale, Paris
Gear 4 Sale">
(NOTE: this should include the ">" at the end, and the "<" at
the beginning, plus each & every quotation mark shown in the
list above... however, it should all be on one line in your
HTML).
Make sure there's no spaces except for the obvious ones
(between the commas & the next keyphrase, plus any space
between separate words in each keyphrase... avoid double-
spaces, IOW).
That'll get you started, anyway :)
NeilI think SPL makes a cat desnorer that actually senses the frequency, then
phase inverts it to cancell the noise......it's more expensive than their
rat, desqueaker though.
;oP
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:442a1ac6$1@linux...
>
>
> Well you could download cat de-snorer from digital fish phones as you
suggested...
> ;o)
>
> ...or you could use Antares Snorto-tune, which will at least put the
snoring
> back in tune with the guitar. ;o)
>
> Personally I'd just drown the cat out with some cowbells or some mooing
from
> Line 6's Cow-Farm. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I recirded a lovely and sensitive acoustic guitar intro today,
> >Originally the band was playing under but we decided to use acoutic only.
> >So, after paying to the backing drum track, the guitarist after many
takes
> >got it perfect. Unfortunately, after muting the drums, it became apparent
> >that one of my cats, Clyde, who has a sinus problem, was asleep next to
> the
> >guitarist, snoring up a storm. It's kind of charming, but I am wondering
> >now if I can write off his vet bills next year.
> >
>Jamey, did you see my post asking you about samplitude? Steve Cox
Jamey Tiffee <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote:
>Jamey Tiffee wrote:
>> Here you go I found a use for PT you just track in PT so the customer
>> walks away thinking they are using "the best tools". They leave you pull
>> the files into PARIS and mixdown the now great sounding music pull the
>> 24 bit mixdown wavs into Samplitude master and dither using POW-r and
>> this is what you get.
>>
>> http://www.myspace.com/thejtb
>>
>> All 3 songs done this way.
>>
>> Let me know what you think!
>>
>> PS I let the drummer whose studio we used for tracking and owned it
>> before we formed the band together. Anyway he "was" a bigtime PT
>> defender that was completely put out that I insist all the mixing be
>> done in PARIS and not his PT rig, till he heard PARIS and asked "how can
>> I make my PT mixes sound like that?", my response "You can't!"
>>
>> And yes I know what you PT guys are thinking, "Yes I can all I need is
a
>> Trident console to mixdown with!" :)
>> Jamey
>Oh yeah the MP3's were created with iTunes on PC default settings."DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>It was November 1997.
Don't suppose you have an exact date?
I mean, a man can drink a lot of beer if he has to celebrate for the whole
month...
....come to think of it, a man can just drink a lot of beer regardless. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.And that's why I'm lazy. Because if you sit on your butt long enough somebody
else will do it for you. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com> wrote:
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I know you're a pretty smart guy with regard to this stuff,
>>>Kimmers, so you prolly already know this...
>>
>>Indeed I do already know this, but I am slack to the same degree that I
>am
>>knowledgable, and hence while I do know that you can add metatags and keywords
>>to allow search engines to better understand what the site is about, I'm
>>yet to actually do it, so your reminder is quite fair. ;o)
>>
>>The fact that we've done this well without me even really trying shows
just
>>how well the site would probably do if I was to put the effort in. I should
>>get off my proverbial. I do have some web stuff I need to do in the next
>>monthor so. It may be time for an update to the newsgroup site, at which
>>point I can update some of those bad links on the site, and insert some
>keyword
>>tags and the like...
>>
>>Indeed, to get things moving, I might start a thread...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
>OK then, for starters, just try copying & pasting this exact
>thread into your HTML for the homepage:
>
><meta name="Keywords" content="Paris Newsgroup, Paris News
>Group, Paris FAQ, Paris Users, Paris Users Group, Paris
>-Hilton, Paris -Hilton FAQ, Paris DAW, Paris Audio, Emu Paris,
>Ensoniq Paris, EmuEnsoniq Paris, Paris MEC, Paris EDS, Paris
>442, Paris Converters, Paris Gear, Paris Gear for sale, Paris
>Gear 4 Sale">
>
>(NOTE: this should include the ">" at the end, and the "<" at
>the beginning, plus each & every quotation mark shown in the
>list above... however, it should all be on one line in your
>HTML).
>
>Make sure there's no spaces except for the obvious ones
>(between the commas & the next keyphrase, plus any space
>between separate words in each keyphrase... avoid double-
>spaces, IOW).
>
>That'll get you started, anyway :)
>
>
>Neil>...and this one...
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/19980627231724/http://www.paris.e nsoniq.com/
>
>Ah, the memories.
Yeah, look at the scroll at the bottom of the window when you
click on that link... "Paris MEC Interface is now shipping!"
OMIGOD, REALLY? lol
NeilWell, if I've done a little something for you, then so be it!
You've done a lot for everyone here... now get to copying &
pasting, you bastard! lol
Neil
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>And that's why I'm lazy. Because if you sit on your butt long enough somebody
>else will do it for you. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I know you're a pretty smart guy with regard to this stuff,
>>>>Kimmers, so you prolly already know this...
>>>
>>>Indeed I do already know this, but I am slack to the same degree that
I
>>am
>>>knowledgable, and hence while I do know that you can add metatags and
keywords
>>>to allow search engines to better understand what the site is about, I'm
>>>yet to actually do it, so your reminder is quite fair. ;o)
>>>
>>>The fact that we've done this well without me even really trying shows
>just
>>>how well the site would probably do if I was to put the effort in. I should
>>>get off my proverbial. I do have some web stuff I need to do in the next
>>>monthor so. It may be time for an update to the newsgroup site, at which
>>>point I can update some of those bad links on the site, and insert some
>>keyword
>>>tags and the like...
>>>
>>>Indeed, to get things moving, I might start a thread...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>>OK then, for starters, just try copying & pasting this exact
>>thread into your HTML for the homepage:
>>
>><meta name="Keywords" content="Paris Newsgroup, Paris News
>>Group, Paris FAQ, Paris Users, Paris Users Group, Paris
>>-Hilton, Paris -Hilton FAQ, Paris DAW, Paris Audio, Emu Paris,
>>Ensoniq Paris, EmuEnsoniq Paris, Paris MEC, Paris EDS, Paris
>>442, Paris Converters, Paris Gear, Paris Gear for sale, Paris
>>Gear 4 Sale">
>>
>>(NOTE: this should include the ">" at the end, and the "<" at
>>the beginning, plus each & every quotation mark shown in the
>>list above... however, it should all be on one line in your
>>HTML).
>>
>>Make sure there's no spaces except for the obvious ones
>>(between the commas & the next keyphrase, plus any space
>>between separate words in each keyphrase... avoid double-
>>spaces, IOW).
>>
>>That'll get you started, anyway :)
>>
>>
>>Neil
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote:
>"Paris MEC Interface is now shipping!"
>OMIGOD, REALLY? lol
ROTF!! Oh gosh. Doesn't actually do it in Firefox, I had to switch to IE,
but it was worth it just for that. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------030401010305080006010506
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It's gotta be red!! but then I've always been partial to
red, as you can see in the attached picture of my last
bike... :-( I still miss it!
David.
Aaron Allen wrote:
>
> As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted,
> I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little
> play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank
> are in order - what could be mo' fun?
> Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
>
> Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and
> pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
> Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under
> a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
> Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on
> them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
>
> Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I
> may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more
> forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks
> that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine
> not taking him up on that one.
>
> http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
>
> As Always, Mucho Gracias
> AA
>
> PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really,
> just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
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> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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--------------030401010305080006010506--Hey Neil,
Yeah... your right. I ended up appologizing to a lot of people and did give
my word I won't be posting any HOT replies anymore. I didn't sleep well after
the post. Hard to sleep with one foot in your mouth and the other one in
your... well you get the picture. I am asking everyone offended... Forgive
me??
Steve
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Steve... you have been lucky enough to stumble upon a forum
>that contains a metric buttload of killer minds, that never
>cease to amaze me in what they know, how they know it, and how
>they apply it, across a very wide number of fields of
>endeavor... really, truly.
>Anyway, I'm going to reply to a bit of your last post, so read
>onward, if you please:
>
>>Alright... you have a community of folks here and I rather new
>>to the forum have posted something that struck a nerve.
>
>Easy to do in any forum where you're the "newbie",
>fuggeddaboudit; these people are forgiving.
>
>>Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I
>>was refered to this site, told just what you guys are all
>>saying here, about all the old pros of the Paris n'all.....
>>Great!! so I started checking it out and see what gets covered
>>on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check it.
>>Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris.
>
>What do expect from old pros... they already know all about
>Paris & use it every day... you think a guy who's been using it
>for five years & has it down is going to have a question about
>how to edit something or whatnot? Unlikely... so they talk
>about politics & the weather, and in Deej's case, how many
>skunks & bears his fucking huge dogs ate last week.
>
>>In fact, type in the word Paris in the search engine. Know
>>what you'll find?
>
>Hilton? A city in France? A link to a website selling a creepy
>sex video?
>
>>The only way I have ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed
>>someone and asked if I may call them.
>>THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be
>>accountable to act
>
>No, because then you asked someone a specific question about a
>specific thing... you got the same help here by doing just
>that. If you had posted the same question on rec-audio-pro, you
>would've gotten one guy who told you (no matter what the issue
>was & what gear you were using) that you were using shit gear
>because it wasn't 2" analog and that was your problem, another
>who would've told you if it ain't Pro-Tools, it sucks, and
>another who would've asked what genre of music you were
>recording, what mics you were using, what preamps, etc., as if
>that had anything to do with your particular question, and if
>you had gotten one good answer, it would've been from someone
>on this group who also happens to post there from time to time.
>Here you had just a couple of questions from those trying to
>help, and at least one good answer that you also happened to
>have duplicated from Rim... good for him for knowing how to give
>good support to his clients.
>
>>In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I
>>don't come to the forum to screw around,
>
>Well, then you're in the wrong place, MUTHAFUCKA!!! because
>there's lots of screwing around going on here... there ALWAYS
>is among friends, though, isn't there? There's also lots of
>good info, as well, however, so you ought to consider hanging
>around.
>
>>I come here because I was told that this is a website of
>>professional people who can ask for help from others
>>who have been through the mill. This is a very serious
>>business for me.
>
>It's a very serious business for lots of people here, and it's
>also a hobby for lots of peope here, and it's also something in
>between for lots of people here. Point is, many of the "lots of
>people here" might just - and don't be offended when I say
>this - MIGHT JUST know more about your Paris setup and how to
>get the most out of it than you do, regardless of how seriously
>they each take it in terms of career or monetary gains; and the
>reason for that is because they're all passionate about the
>system, and are always looking for ways to improve on what
>they've got... lemme give you a few examples of what people on
>this NG have done for the Paris User Collective; get ready to
>be somewhat impressed:
>
>A.) Did you know that Chuck Duffy, the guy who originally
>started this newsgroup, ran & maintained the servers
>on his own dime in Maryland for a number of years, including
>this particular URL, plus a chatserver? Never aked for a penny
>of help from anyone, and only did this to help all Paris users.
>Passionate about the system.
>
>B.) Did you know that Kim in Australia, the guy who currently
>serves up this NG, runs & maintains the servers on his own
>dime? Also hasn't asked for a penny of help from anyone, though
>a number of folks have offered. Passionate about the system.
>
>C.) Did you know that even though Emu/Ensoniq, and Intelligent
>Devices ceased supporting Paris, people on this users group who
>are also programmers had come up with a driver for windows XP
>so that you can run Paris on updated Windows systems? I forget
>who did this, but good lord, think about it... users concocting
>& writing their own drivers, and you can get the for free! How
>often do you find that? (never). Passonate about the system.
>
>D.) Did you know that the previously-mentioned Chuck Duffy is
>also a programmer, and that he ported a bunch of Ensoniq plug-
>ins from other platforms over to the Paris EDS format, and also
>wrote some new ones, and then made them available for a very
>reasonable fee, and finally (recently) made them available for
>absolutely NOTHING!???! Ask nicely after reading this post, and
>someone might point you to them.
>
>Anyway, I'm not even a Paris user anymore and I still hang out
>here... One reason is that I like these guys, and another
>reason is that the collective brain trust is pretty
>remarkable... want to know about a certain mic or preamp?
>Chances are someone here has used it. Want to know about how to
>sync an external app (VSTi on a separate computer, MIDI, Synth
>Workstation, Video, etc.) to Paris? Chances are someone here
>has done it. Want to know if a '67 SG with black soapbars
>sounds better through a newer Marshall or an older Mesa for a
>Blink-182 sound, or whether a Shiny Box ribbon sounds better
>than a Royer on an upright bass, or if you should go with a
>set of Mackie 824's or Dynaudio BM5A's for your new set of
>nearfields, you'll get lots of good & very useful opinions here.
>
>It's a lot more than just a Paris users group, if you get my
>drift, and well worth being a part of, so stick around.
>
>
>NeilHehe... I remember when we got our first system... a Bundle
II... it came with a coupon for an upgrade to the MEC when
they were shipping. It was about 4 months I think that we
had the system before the MEC was released. We still have
that original system... and LOTS more! ;-)
David.
Neil wrote:
>>...and this one...
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/19980627231724/http://www.paris.e nsoniq.com/
>>
>>Ah, the memories.
>
>
> Yeah, look at the scroll at the bottom of the window when you
> click on that link... "Paris MEC Interface is now shipping!"
> OMIGOD, REALLY? lol
>
> Neil
>My memory is a bit foggy, as I remember it, it was first shown at the January
NAMM show 1997. S.C.S was there doing the demo along with others from Ensoniq.
I remember looking at the 442 and telling them that the standard was 8 in
and 8 out on all audio interfaces that were coming out at that time. I
thought the system was cool, but the 4 I/O wouldn't cut it, because Adats,
DA 88s and 8 Bus boards were 8 ch., and the standard. It seamed like it
took a year before the MEC were available.
At the show they where giving out free MIDI spiders. It was a rubber spider
on the end of a MIDI cable, its eyes would light up to test your MIDI ports
for signal, I still have some new in the package.
Get you red hot Paris Pro collectables!
Speaking of stuff I have, would anybody be interested in buying the official,
limited edition Paris Pro tour poster? Only $20.00, it will look great framed
on your studio wall! I'll even ship it for free. How about an official,
vary limited Paris Pro button up shirt, never worn, by me anyway. Its blue
with an embroidered Paris Pro logo on it. Can you tell it's tax time and
I could use a few extra bucks; )
One of these days I'm gonna throw these things up on ebay.
James
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Does anybody know the official Paris release date? It was '97 wasn't it?
>Google says it was available December '97 at least. Must have been sooner.
>Anybody know the date, or have a better idea? Let's celebrate the 10th anniversary
>next year! :o)
>
>I remember this page "back in the day":
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/19970717151612/www.paris.ensoniq. com/html/paris.htm
>
>...and this one...
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/19980627231724/http://www.paris.e nsoniq.com/
>
>Ah, the memories. Back when I thought Ensoniq would keep their promises,
>and that digital home studios would take the power back from the record
companies
>back to the artists... oh how dreams are shattered. ;o)
>
>Anyhow, we should have a birthday. If we can't find a date we need to make
>one up! :o)
>
>Which brings forth another important question. When did the newsgroup start?
>I remember it was around by mid '98 when I bought Paris.
>
>Or is all this information lost in the depths of the great beyond...?
>
>I know I took the NG over September '04. I have the date somewhere. Think
>it was the 19th... ...in any case the newsgroup archives stretch back
to
>a year before I took it over. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Cutting and pasting complete. I even fixed up the text which said we'd been
running on the new server for a month now. ;o)
Now if there's no permissions issues on the server it should be working already.
;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Well, if I've done a little something for you, then so be it!
>You've done a lot for everyone here... now get to copying &
>pasting, you bastard! lol
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>And that's why I'm lazy. Because if you sit on your butt long enough somebody
>>else will do it for you. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I know you're a pretty smart guy with regard to this stuff,
>>>>>Kimmers, so you prolly already know this...
>>>>
>>>>Indeed I do already know this, but I am slack to the same degree that
>I
>>>am
>>>>knowledgable, and hence while I do know that you can add metatags and
>keywords
>>>>to allow search engines to better understand what the site is about,
I'm
>>>>yet to actually do it, so your reminder is quite fair. ;o)
>>>>
>>>>The fact that we've done this well without me even really trying shows
>>just
>>>>how well the site would probably do if I was to put the effort in. I
should
>>>>get off my proverbial. I do have some web stuff I need to do in the next
>>>>monthor so. It may be time for an update to the newsgroup site, at which
>>>>point I can update some of those bad links on the site, and insert some
>>>keyword
>>>>tags and the like...
>>>>
>>>>Indeed, to get things moving, I might start a thread...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>OK then, for starters, just try copying & pasting this exact
>>>thread into your HTML for the homepage:
>>>
>>><meta name="Keywords" content="Paris Newsgroup, Paris News
>>>Group, Paris FAQ, Paris Users, Paris Users Group, Paris
>>>-Hilton, Paris -Hilton FAQ, Paris DAW, Paris Audio, Emu Paris,
>>>Ensoniq Paris, EmuEnsoniq Paris, Paris MEC, Paris EDS, Paris
>>>442, Paris Converters, Paris Gear, Paris Gear for sale, Paris
>>>Gear 4 Sale">
>>>
>>>(NOTE: this should include the ">" at the end, and the "<" at
>>>the beginning, plus each & every quotation mark shown in the
>>>list above... however, it should all be on one line in your
>>>HTML).
>>>
>>>Make sure there's no spaces except for the obvious ones
>>>(between the commas & the next keyphrase, plus any space
>>>between separate words in each keyphrase... avoid double-
>>>spaces, IOW).
>>>
>>>That'll get you started, anyway :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil
>>
>Hey Neil! That was harsh, but to the point. You mentioned rec-audio-pro,
but forgot to mention the Fletcher factor! If a newbee went on there and
accidently said that they didn't agree with Fletcher, about a hundred of
his brainwashed followers would jump all over the poor guy. He'd be severely
insulted, his life threatened multiple times, and would be tarred and feathered,
and that would be in the first fifteen minutes! No offense to Fletcher,
but he is a self professed audio snob, and some people go to far with it
all. Not all news groups are created equal, and this one is a LOT more civil.
James
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Steve... you have been lucky enough to stumble upon a forum
>that contains a metric buttload of killer minds, that never
>cease to amaze me in what they know, how they know it, and how
>they apply it, across a very wide number of fields of
>endeavor... really, truly.
>Anyway, I'm going to reply to a bit of your last post, so read
>onward, if you please:
>
>>Alright... you have a community of folks here and I rather new
>>to the forum have posted something that struck a nerve.
>
>Easy to do in any forum where you're the "newbie",
>fuggeddaboudit; these people are forgiving.
>
>>Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I
>>was refered to this site, told just what you guys are all
>>saying here, about all the old pros of the Paris n'all.....
>>Great!! so I started checking it out and see what gets covered
>>on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check it.
>>Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris.
>
>What do expect from old pros... they already know all about
>Paris & use it every day... you think a guy who's been using it
>for five years & has it down is going to have a question about
>how to edit something or whatnot? Unlikely... so they talk
>about politics & the weather, and in Deej's case, how many
>skunks & bears his fucking huge dogs ate last week.
>
>>In fact, type in the word Paris in the search engine. Know
>>what you'll find?
>
>Hilton? A city in France? A link to a website selling a creepy
>sex video?
>
>>The only way I have ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed
>>someone and asked if I may call them.
>>THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be
>>accountable to act
>
>No, because then you asked someone a specific question about a
>specific thing... you got the same help here by doing just
>that. If you had posted the same question on rec-audio-pro, you
>would've gotten one guy who told you (no matter what the issue
>was & what gear you were using) that you were using shit gear
>because it wasn't 2" analog and that was your problem, another
>who would've told you if it ain't Pro-Tools, it sucks, and
>another who would've asked what genre of music you were
>recording, what mics you were using, what preamps, etc., as if
>that had anything to do with your particular question, and if
>you had gotten one good answer, it would've been from someone
>on this group who also happens to post there from time to time.
>Here you had just a couple of questions from those trying to
>help, and at least one good answer that you also happened to
>have duplicated from Rim... good for him for knowing how to give
>good support to his clients.
>
>>In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I
>>don't come to the forum to screw around,
>
>Well, then you're in the wrong place, MUTHAFUCKA!!! because
>there's lots of screwing around going on here... there ALWAYS
>is among friends, though, isn't there? There's also lots of
>good info, as well, however, so you ought to consider hanging
>around.
>
>>I come here because I was told that this is a website of
>>professional people who can ask for help from others
>>who have been through the mill. This is a very serious
>>business for me.
>
>It's a very serious business for lots of people here, and it's
>also a hobby for lots of peope here, and it's also something in
>between for lots of people here. Point is, many of the "lots of
>people here" might just - and don't be offended when I say
>this - MIGHT JUST know more about your Paris setup and how to
>get the most out of it than you do, regardless of how seriously
>they each take it in terms of career or monetary gains; and the
>reason for that is because they're all passionate about the
>system, and are always looking for ways to improve on what
>they've got... lemme give you a few examples of what people on
>this NG have done for the Paris User Collective; get ready to
>be somewhat impressed:
>
>A.) Did you know that Chuck Duffy, the guy who originally
>started this newsgroup, ran & maintained the servers
>on his own dime in Maryland for a number of years, including
>this particular URL, plus a chatserver? Never aked for a penny
>of help from anyone, and only did this to help all Paris users.
>Passionate about the system.
>
>B.) Did you know that Kim in Australia, the guy who currently
>serves up this NG, runs & maintains the servers on his own
>dime? Also hasn't asked for a penny of help from anyone, though
>a number of folks have offered. Passionate about the system.
>
>C.) Did you know that even though Emu/Ensoniq, and Intelligent
>Devices ceased supporting Paris, people on this users group who
>are also programmers had come up with a driver for windows XP
>so that you can run Paris on updated Windows systems? I forget
>who did this, but good lord, think about it... users concocting
>& writing their own drivers, and you can get the for free! How
>often do you find that? (never). Passonate about the system.
>
>D.) Did you know that the previously-mentioned Chuck Duffy is
>also a programmer, and that he ported a bunch of Ensoniq plug-
>ins from other platforms over to the Paris EDS format, and also
>wrote some new ones, and then made them available for a very
>reasonable fee, and finally (recently) made them available for
>absolutely NOTHING!???! Ask nicely after reading this post, and
>someone might point you to them.
>
>Anyway, I'm not even a Paris user anymore and I still hang out
>here... One reason is that I like these guys, and another
>reason is that the collective brain trust is pretty
>remarkable... want to know about a certain mic or preamp?
>Chances are someone here has used it. Want to know about how to
>sync an external app (VSTi on a separate computer, MIDI, Synth
>Workstation, Video, etc.) to Paris? Chances are someone here
>has done it. Want to know if a '67 SG with black soapbars
>sounds better through a newer Marshall or an older Mesa for a
>Blink-182 sound, or whether a Shiny Box ribbon sounds better
>than a Royer on an upright bass, or if you should go with a
>set of Mackie 824's or Dynaudio BM5A's for your new set of
>nearfields, you'll get lots of good & very useful opinions here.
>
>It's a lot more than just a Paris users group, if you get my
>drift, and well worth being a part of, so stick around.
>
>
>NeilThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Tom
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Something about this thread made me think: "What if the Funklogic boys
made special plates for Paris MECs?"
I think that would be pretty cool. I would spend a few dollars for
something to dress up my otherwise unpopulpated MEC, wouldn't you?
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C652DF.5C77FD70--Here are some conceptual ideas for the Paris News Group. Let me know what
you guys think.
The Paris assets page
Things that are missing:
A dedicated file page, with files like BT's SMPTE file, Deej's setup, file,
or direct links to Chuck's Plugin page. The guy that comes on the NG for
the first time three months from now, will miss out because he won't know
that they even exist. If he found them, his next question would be how to
install them, a page would come in handy for this and similar things like
this, were additional instruction are needed.
How to cook in Paris!
Paris recipes, tips and tricks. Have each guy that wants to, list their favorite
and most useful tip or trick. There are subjects that could be covered better,
like free form mode, or automation, etc. Recipes, for example, a recipe
for your favorite way to record electric bass with Paris. List things like
equipment used, settings, type of strings used, mic placement, materials
used such as wind screen or packing blankets, and where you got them.
Paris Directory
In stead of having more web pages and our personal information floating around
in cyber space, that can easily be sniffed, have a down loadable pdf or Word
document that would have a bio with contact information, our interest, what
instruments we play, etc. This could be set up in a standardized templet
form.
The Paris Players Directory
An idea that kind of piggybacks the Directory idea, it would be a Paris Players
Directory. The directory would list what instruments you play, what style
or genera of music. It would be a directory of volunteer musicians that
would be willing to play on up to three tracks for free or for one dollar.
This would be like having a community of hired guns that could spice up
your tracks. If the track is used, you would just agree to give acknowledgment
for the track. If a song or work actually sold nationally, you would still
get performance royalties. It could be worked out. We would all get to
know each other even better.
It is fast and easy to send files direct via Instant Messaging software.
so shooting Paris project file across the net would be easy. We could pay
pal each other, or what ever. Again this could be set up in a templet. All
of us have some kind of studio, and all of us have some kind of talent, lets
utilize it! This would work kind of like Deej's cyber band idea. Together
we could create great music that we could have never created alone.
James
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I need (rather badly) to do an update of the newsgroup website. Those who
>visit via the website may well have noticed the (hopelessly outdated) list
>of Paris links on the site.
>
>I'd like to get a list of all the Paris sites that are about. I beleive
about
>half the ones already listed are still working. I'm pretty sure I've heard
>a couple thrown around on the group here that I don't have up there however.
>
>So, I'd be really greatful if some people could name all the sites that
are
>out there, which no doubt many of you have stashed in your bookmarks. Also,
>anybody who has their own little archives and wants to share, now's the
time.
>:o)
>
>Time to get stuff in some kind of order around here. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Well I wanted to start by getting what already exists up to scratch, and
then improving from there, but while we're on it...
>A dedicated file page,
I can host some stuff if need be... I have space...
>with files like BT's SMPTE file
Well I don't have a copy, but if I can get one... I'm sure somebody can
shoot them to me...
>Deej's setup
Gee, How much space do you think I have? ;o) Seriously, I think this is better
to be covered by things like John's Paris NG archives: http://kfocus.com/paris/
or Steve the art guy's page. Everyone has a different setup, so while DJ's
setup is extremely interesting, his isn't the only setup of interest...
....he just talks the most. ;o)
>or direct links to Chuck's Plugin page.
I can do that. Indeed I will do that. That's important. I may even move a
copy to locally here in case the files go missing.
> his next question would be how to
>install them...
Most of them come with a readme already in the zip I beleive. Going beyond
that is difficult, as you never know where a given user may go wrong. Don't
suppose you feel like writing a graphical tutorial to put with them? A PDF
perhaps?
>How to cook in Paris!
>Paris recipes, tips and tricks.
This is more down the line of what Doug W's ParisFaq's is about than my NG
site. I guess FAQ's is kinda tips and tricks. It's hard because I see what
you're getting at, yet in a way this stuff is out there, it's just spread
out. The really hard thing is that everybody's priority on what is a handy
tip or trick is different. In a very real way, Doug W has listed his priorities
on his site, John on his, and Steve the art guy on his. It's not likely that
there's ever going to be a site where a person can go which just has everything
a man needs, because everybody needs different stuff.
Info on how to get a given sound could be handy, though it's usefulness is
subject to what gear a person has. I'm not keen to go this far in the immediate
future with my site though. Sounds like a lot of work. ;o)
>have a down loadable pdf or Word
>document that would have a bio with contact information,
IIRC the Paris Directory didn't go as well as hoped, largely not because
of the format, but because people didn't bother to or weren't intereted in
submitting. Unfortunate, but I must confess I was guilty myself...
In any case I know search engines are capable of searching PDFs and DOCs.
Not sure what the spammers use, but I suspect they can too.
>The Paris Players Directory
This is an interesting idea, and it would probably work even better if it
wasn't restricted to Paris. I suspect you'd be largely restricted to hobby
muso's / studio owners if you expect people to work for nothing, but if you
could reach enough people you might get something happening. In any case
you could list people's rates for those who aren't free. In fact it's probably
a damned brilliant business idea in that context. A worldwide internet muso
for hire directory. People could charge anything from nothing, credit acknowledgement,
to royalty or rates, or both. Have samples... list styles and what instruments
a person has.
Got any web design skills? ;o) You could be rich! ;o)
Actually, seriously, you have a lot of ideas in here overall. The Paris community
does appear to be slowly but surely shrinking. You have a lot of ideas, and
I'm sure many of them would be appreciated were you to put something together.
I'm sure certain mainstays, such as ParisFaq's and this site, will be here
for many years to come, but we're all keen to see new additions. :o) And
I'll happily link to anything that you create that's Paris related.
Got any webspace?
Cheers,
Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I need (rather badly) to do an update of the newsgroup website. Those who
>>visit via the website may well have noticed the (hopelessly outdated) list
>>of Paris links on the site.
>>
>>I'd like to get a list of all the Paris sites that are about. I beleive
>about
>>half the ones already listed are still working. I'm pretty sure I've heard
>>a couple thrown around on the group here that I don't have up there however.
>>
>>So, I'd be really greatful if some people could name all the sites that
>are
>>out there, which no doubt many of you have stashed in your bookmarks. Also,
>>anybody who has their own little archives and wants to share, now's the
>time.
>>:o)
>>
>>Time to get stuff in some kind of order around here. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>love the spiderman anti skid device on the rear seat...neato..
;o)
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:25:15 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
<nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, I'm having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little play in Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank are in order - what could be mo' fun?
>Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
>
> Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
> Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under a pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
> Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on them. (yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
>
>Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I may want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more forgiving. I have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks that's offered to shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine not taking him up on that one.
>
>http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
>
>As Always, Mucho Gracias
>AA
>
>PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really, just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlhaven't been laid in a while ...huh?
On 29 Mar 2006 13:35:23 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The bad news?
>
>Typing Paris Newsgroup into google fails to show any relevant sites in the
>top 100 listed, far as I could see. Poop.
>
>On the other hand...
>
>Googling "Paris Newsgroup" (in quotes) brings parisfaqs.com to the top. Paris.hiddensounds.com
>is at six. news.parisnewsgroup.com is at eighteen.
>
>Googling Ensoniq Paris Newsgroup brought homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/
>to the top of the list (which is basically www.parisfaqs.com). new.parisnewsgroup.com
>also showed up at number eleven.
>
>EmuEnsoniq paris newsgroup only brings two results. Paris.hiddensounds.com
>and news.parisnewsgroup.com, which are both the same site. Can't miss with
>that one.
>
>Emu Ensoniq Paris Newsgroup once again brings Parisfaqs to the top of the
>list. Paris.hiddensounds.com comes up second, with news.parisnewsgroup.com
>at seven.
>
>Emu Paris Newsgroup once again brings parisfaqs up as first. news.parisnewsgroup.com
>is at eight.
>
>Google appears to have dropped the links to the old www.greatidea.com links.
>Unfortunately Paris Newsgroup not in quotes doesn't get us on the list, but
>anybody who adds a brand name in should be able to find us.
>
>Looks like we've survived the change of url.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Does anyone investigated if Paris will work under the new Microsoft
operating system Vista? Will the new xp driver function similarly in the new
OS?
RichDang those flying bears. They're quite a nuisance.
RichDoes anybody know if the ID support for ver. 3.0 (challenge, response) still
works?Don,
about paris converters sounding that good...do you find DA converters also
so good? I posted similar question at gearslutz.com and most people trashed
paris converters...
Aaron&Stewart,
its seems that separate machine is the way to go. Which operating system
is the best for running Paris 2.2 and which drivers are the best? Is there
any reason to move to Paris 3.0 if I just use paris for mixing and converters?
Mark,
I already found this paris rig for sale. I will try to arrange to have a
listen before I buy. What is the resonable price for mec/c16/eds1000/8in/adat
rig and is it hard to resell if I do not like it? Are Paris components easy
to resell in Europe?
Deej,
You have very nice DAW setup!
Where exactly Paris magic happens? Is it AD converters, summing or something
else? Is there any "sonical" reason to record tracks in Paris if I have cubase/rme
DAW which I am familiar with?
Now, I will try to explain what I miss with cubase/rme setup.
I compose electronic music, and I use a lot of older analog synths and samplers,
which sounds VERY nice, much better then newer stuff. When I just route them
directly to analog desk, everything is fine. It is really easy to mix a song
because every instrument finds its place in the mix easily. Everything sounds
full, fat and in-your-face with nice 3D space.
When recording same instruments with RME, I loose this character of original
sound. Everything gets behind, tracks sound separated (not "glued" together)
but the biggest disadvantage is that I loose a lot of "space" (created with
older lexicon reverbs). It is more 2D instead of 3D.
In other words...when I mix analog, it is very easy to find the right level.
In digital, it is either to loud or to quiet.
Final question. Does Paris converters/mixbus behave more like analog gear/desk...
or closer to sterile cubase/rme digital stuff?
My production is not about hi-fi, details and such... I just look for natural,
fat, full bodied sound. Is Paris the right place to look for these?
Or is it just closer to analog than Protools but not quite analog?
Regards,
SF
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I have a Multiface here. I have a Cubase SX template set up a 1.5ms latency
>that I use to patch the Multiface converters into my Paris rig via Paris
>lightpipe fro tracking. I like them both. The Paris and Multiface converters
>sound different from each other. I sometimes prefer the Multiface converters
>to the Paris on some sources depending on the source, the mic and the
>preamp.
>
>I always track to Paris using the Paris converters, RME converters and Mytek
>converters, batch convert them to .wavs, import them to a second DAW running
>Cubase, then lightpipe them back to Paris during mixdown. This allows me
to
>take advantage of the PDC and editor in SX and the automation in both
>systems.
>
>There's a lot more to getting this to happen than I have described. If you
>decide you want to go there, I have attached a word.doc that explains how
it
>is done.
>
>I prefer the Paris mix bus to the one in SX and unless you just like the
>sound of the Mackie mixer for some reason, you'll likely be happy with Paris
>if you use it's strengths and accept it's limitations.
>
>Deej
>
>"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>>
>> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system
but
>> a little outdated.
>>
>> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
>much
>> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
>> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my taste.
>> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
>distant,
>> thin and not in front.
>>
>> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
>board
>> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like
a
>good
>> option.
>>
>> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
>lightpipe.
>> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
>> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>>
>> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
>card.
>>
>> Now, there are some questions left...
>>
>> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
>XP)?
>> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
>recording.
>>
>> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to RME
>> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
>> lnyx...)
>>
>> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>>
>> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
>> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
>series)
>> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
>Paris
>> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
>Paris
>> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
>> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
>Paris
>> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>>
>> Regards,
>> SF
>>
>
>
>Oh, I may also need the optional Leaf Blower Extractor! Well I could have
used the article in the new tape Op about creative Phase Reversal. put 2
mics on the cat flip one and whamo no mare cat, My wife wouldn't have been
to happy.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I think SPL makes a cat desnorer that actually senses the frequency, then
>phase inverts it to cancell the noise......it's more expensive than their
>rat, desqueaker though.
>
>;oP
>
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:442a1ac6$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Well you could download cat de-snorer from digital fish phones as you
>suggested...
>> ;o)
>>
>> ...or you could use Antares Snorto-tune, which will at least put the
>snoring
>> back in tune with the guitar. ;o)
>>
>> Personally I'd just drown the cat out with some cowbells or some mooing
>from
>> Line 6's Cow-Farm. ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> "cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >I recirded a lovely and sensitive acoustic guitar intro today,
>> >Originally the band was playing under but we decided to use acoutic only.
>> >So, after paying to the backing drum track, the guitarist after many
>takes
>> >got it perfect. Unfortunately, after muting the drums, it became apparent
>> >that one of my cats, Clyde, who has a sinus problem, was asleep next
to
>> the
>> >guitarist, snoring up a storm. It's kind of charming, but I am wondering
>> >now if I can write off his vet bills next year.
>> >
>>
>
>I also recall a post by one of the intrepid Paris users Dimitrios regarding
a Pwoer Supply mod that opened up the converters.
Did anyone try this?
"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Don,
>
>about paris converters sounding that good...do you find DA converters also
>so good? I posted similar question at gearslutz.com and most people trashed
>paris converters...
>
>Aaron&Stewart,
>
>its seems that separate machine is the way to go. Which operating system
>is the best for running Paris 2.2 and which drivers are the best? Is there
>any reason to move to Paris 3.0 if I just use paris for mixing and converters?
>
>Mark,
>
>I already found this paris rig for sale. I will try to arrange to have a
>listen before I buy. What is the resonable price for mec/c16/eds1000/8in/adat
>rig and is it hard to resell if I do not like it? Are Paris components easy
>to resell in Europe?
>
>Deej,
>
>You have very nice DAW setup!
>
>Where exactly Paris magic happens? Is it AD converters, summing or something
>else? Is there any "sonical" reason to record tracks in Paris if I have
cubase/rme
>DAW which I am familiar with?
>
>Now, I will try to explain what I miss with cubase/rme setup.
>
>I compose electronic music, and I use a lot of older analog synths and samplers,
>which sounds VERY nice, much better then newer stuff. When I just route
them
>directly to analog desk, everything is fine. It is really easy to mix a
song
>because every instrument finds its place in the mix easily. Everything sounds
>full, fat and in-your-face with nice 3D space.
>When recording same instruments with RME, I loose this character of original
>sound. Everything gets behind, tracks sound separated (not "glued" together)
>but the biggest disadvantage is that I loose a lot of "space" (created with
>older lexicon reverbs). It is more 2D instead of 3D.
>In other words...when I mix analog, it is very easy to find the right level.
>In digital, it is either to loud or to quiet.
>
>Final question. Does Paris converters/mixbus behave more like analog gear/desk...
>or closer to sterile cubase/rme digital stuff?
>My production is not about hi-fi, details and such... I just look for natural,
>fat, full bodied sound. Is Paris the right place to look for these?
>Or is it just closer to analog than Protools but not quite analog?
>
>Regards,
>SF
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I have a Multiface here. I have a Cubase SX template set up a 1.5ms latency
>>that I use to patch the Multiface converters into my Paris rig via Paris
>>lightpipe fro tracking. I like them both. The Paris and Multiface converters
>>sound different from each other. I sometimes prefer the Multiface converters
>>to the Paris on some sources depending on the source, the mic and the
>>preamp.
>>
>>I always track to Paris using the Paris converters, RME converters and
Mytek
>>converters, batch convert them to .wavs, import them to a second DAW running
>>Cubase, then lightpipe them back to Paris during mixdown. This allows me
>to
>>take advantage of the PDC and editor in SX and the automation in both
>>systems.
>>
>>There's a lot more to getting this to happen than I have described. If
you
>>decide you want to go there, I have attached a word.doc that explains how
>it
>>is done.
>>
>>I prefer the Paris mix bus to the one in SX and unless you just like the
>>sound of the Mackie mixer for some reason, you'll likely be happy with
Paris
>>if you use it's strengths and accept it's limitations.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>>>
>>> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system
>but
>>> a little outdated.
>>>
>>> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
>>much
>>> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
>>> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my taste.
>>> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
>>distant,
>>> thin and not in front.
>>>
>>> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
>>board
>>> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like
>a
>>good
>>> option.
>>>
>>> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
>>lightpipe.
>>> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording, MIDI,
>>> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>>>
>>> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
>>card.
>>>
>>> Now, there are some questions left...
>>>
>>> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
>>XP)?
>>> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
>>recording.
>>>
>>> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to
RME
>>> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
>>> lnyx...)
>>>
>>> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>>>
>>> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
>>> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
>>series)
>>> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
>>Paris
>>> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
>>Paris
>>> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard (near
>>> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
>>Paris
>>> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> SF
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>HI Rich,
Sense the driver model is changing with Vista I don't think there will
any hope of it working. There also will be no point. Paris is best run
on the hardware that was around when Paris was. My advice is to use a
machine to run Paris and Paris only. Build a new machine for everything
else. After this year its is more than likely you will not be able to
buy any motherboards or processors that will work with Paris. Stockpile
some vintage computer parts to go with your vintage Paris system.
:)
Chris
Rich Lamanna wrote:
> Does anyone investigated if Paris will work under the new Microsoft
> operating system Vista? Will the new xp driver function similarly in the new
> OS?
>
> Rich
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Eventiter, Kickback, Mod Pack--Any mauals for these? I got these from Morgan
Petello when I got my 3.0 years ago, but don't have a clue how to use them.
Steve-not the art guy-Man that is a bummer
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Rich,
>Sense the driver model is changing with Vista I don't think there will
>any hope of it working. There also will be no point. Paris is best run
>on the hardware that was around when Paris was. My advice is to use a
>machine to run Paris and Paris only. Build a new machine for everything
>else. After this year its is more than likely you will not be able to
>buy any motherboards or processors that will work with Paris. Stockpile
>some vintage computer parts to go with your vintage Paris system.
>:)
>
>Chris
>
>
>Rich Lamanna wrote:
>> Does anyone investigated if Paris will work under the new Microsoft
>> operating system Vista? Will the new xp driver function similarly in the
new
>> OS?
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762I forgot the link to recent paris thread at gearslutz...
http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=64177
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>I also recall a post by one of the intrepid Paris users Dimitrios regarding
>a Pwoer Supply mod that opened up the converters.
>Did anyone try this?
>
>
>
>"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>about paris converters sounding that good...do you find DA converters also
>>so good? I posted similar question at gearslutz.com and most people trashed
>>paris converters...
>>
>>Aaron&Stewart,
>>
>>its seems that separate machine is the way to go. Which operating system
>>is the best for running Paris 2.2 and which drivers are the best? Is there
>>any reason to move to Paris 3.0 if I just use paris for mixing and converters?
>>
>>Mark,
>>
>>I already found this paris rig for sale. I will try to arrange to have
a
>>listen before I buy. What is the resonable price for mec/c16/eds1000/8in/adat
>>rig and is it hard to resell if I do not like it? Are Paris components
easy
>>to resell in Europe?
>>
>>Deej,
>>
>>You have very nice DAW setup!
>>
>>Where exactly Paris magic happens? Is it AD converters, summing or something
>>else? Is there any "sonical" reason to record tracks in Paris if I have
>cubase/rme
>>DAW which I am familiar with?
>>
>>Now, I will try to explain what I miss with cubase/rme setup.
>>
>>I compose electronic music, and I use a lot of older analog synths and
samplers,
>>which sounds VERY nice, much better then newer stuff. When I just route
>them
>>directly to analog desk, everything is fine. It is really easy to mix a
>song
>>because every instrument finds its place in the mix easily. Everything
sounds
>>full, fat and in-your-face with nice 3D space.
>>When recording same instruments with RME, I loose this character of original
>>sound. Everything gets behind, tracks sound separated (not "glued" together)
>>but the biggest disadvantage is that I loose a lot of "space" (created
with
>>older lexicon reverbs). It is more 2D instead of 3D.
>>In other words...when I mix analog, it is very easy to find the right level.
>>In digital, it is either to loud or to quiet.
>>
>>Final question. Does Paris converters/mixbus behave more like analog gear/desk...
>>or closer to sterile cubase/rme digital stuff?
>>My production is not about hi-fi, details and such... I just look for natural,
>>fat, full bodied sound. Is Paris the right place to look for these?
>>Or is it just closer to analog than Protools but not quite analog?
>>
>>Regards,
>>SF
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>I have a Multiface here. I have a Cubase SX template set up a 1.5ms latency
>>>that I use to patch the Multiface converters into my Paris rig via Paris
>>>lightpipe fro tracking. I like them both. The Paris and Multiface converters
>>>sound different from each other. I sometimes prefer the Multiface converters
>>>to the Paris on some sources depending on the source, the mic and the
>>>preamp.
>>>
>>>I always track to Paris using the Paris converters, RME converters and
>Mytek
>>>converters, batch convert them to .wavs, import them to a second DAW running
>>>Cubase, then lightpipe them back to Paris during mixdown. This allows
me
>>to
>>>take advantage of the PDC and editor in SX and the automation in both
>>>systems.
>>>
>>>There's a lot more to getting this to happen than I have described. If
>you
>>>decide you want to go there, I have attached a word.doc that explains
how
>>it
>>>is done.
>>>
>>>I prefer the Paris mix bus to the one in SX and unless you just like the
>>>sound of the Mackie mixer for some reason, you'll likely be happy with
>Paris
>>>if you use it's strengths and accept it's limitations.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
>>>>
>>>> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system
>>but
>>>> a little outdated.
>>>>
>>>> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
>>>much
>>>> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
>>>> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my
taste.
>>>> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
>>>distant,
>>>> thin and not in front.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
>>>board
>>>> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like
>>a
>>>good
>>>> option.
>>>>
>>>> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
>>>lightpipe.
>>>> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording,
MIDI,
>>>> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
>>>>
>>>> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
>>>card.
>>>>
>>>> Now, there are some questions left...
>>>>
>>>> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
>>>XP)?
>>>> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
>>>recording.
>>>>
>>>> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to
>RME
>>>> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee, mytek,
>>>> lnyx...)
>>>>
>>>> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
>>>>
>>>> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16 channel
>>>> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
>>>series)
>>>> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
>>>Paris
>>>> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
>>>Paris
>>>> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard
(near
>>>> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
>>>Paris
>>>> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> SF
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I will send you two fronts then today.
Steve Cox-not the art guyHiya
I had to do this just last week. I sent 2 emails (support@intdevices.com)
and rang twice (+1-410-902-0091) and got my response code just in time
before the trial period ran out.
Cheers,
Stewart.
Jerrypop wrote in message <442a79bf$1@linux>...
>
>Does anybody know if the ID support for ver. 3.0 (challenge, response)
still
>works?Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Rich,
>Sense the driver model is changing with Vista I don't think there will
>any hope of it working. There also will be no point. Paris is best run
>on the hardware that was around when Paris was. My advice is to use a
>machine to run Paris and Paris only. Build a new machine for everything
>else. After this year its is more than likely you will not be able to
>buy any motherboards or processors that will work with Paris. Stockpile
>some vintage computer parts to go with your vintage Paris system.
>:)
Which reminds me... I have, just sitting around, an HP PC mini-
tower that's a few years old, it's got a Celeron 600, IIRC, and
Windows ME (again, IIRC - it's been awhile since I booted it up).
If anyone needs something like this, I'd let it go fer cheeep,
plus shipping... I kept it in case I ever wanted to try running
a separate PC for VSTi's, but that whole category of software
quickly outgrew the processor capabilities of that computer.
You could probably find a faster Celeron than the one that's
in it & swap out the CPU for not too much dough.
NeilAnswers below:
"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:442a7b2e$1@linux...
>
> Don,
>
> about paris converters sounding that good...do you find DA converters also
> so good? I posted similar question at gearslutz.com and most people
trashed
> paris converters...
The D/A converters are subject to jitter and will sound better if you use an
external clock. The Lucid GenX6 does a good job of this.
>
> Aaron&Stewart,
>
> its seems that separate machine is the way to go. Which operating system
> is the best for running Paris 2.2 and which drivers are the best? Is there
> any reason to move to Paris 3.0 if I just use paris for mixing and
converters?
If you intend to expand your system to something like mine, you will need
to run Windows 98SE or windows ME (I use ME). The Paris XP driver does not
recognize more than one ADAT module per MEC and will not recognize an ADAT
machine at all..
>
> Mark,
>
> I already found this paris rig for sale. I will try to arrange to have a
> listen before I buy. What is the resonable price for
mec/c16/eds1000/8in/adat
> rig and is it hard to resell if I do not like it? Are Paris components
easy
> to resell in Europe?
EDS - $250.00 - $300.00 tops
MEC- $175.00 - $250.00 tops
C-16- $100.00 - $150.00 tops
A8iT- $300.00 - $350.00 tops
ADi- $250.00 $300.00 Tops
(subject to free market supply and demand, of course)
I don't know about resale in Europe though)
s there any "sonical" reason to record tracks in Paris if I have cubase/rme
> DAW which I am familiar with?
>
No.
ow, I will try to explain what I miss with cubase/rme setup.
>
> I compose electronic music, and I use a lot of older analog synths and
samplers,
> which sounds VERY nice, much better then newer stuff. When I just route
them
> directly to analog desk, everything is fine. It is really easy to mix a
song
> because every instrument finds its place in the mix easily. Everything
sounds
> full, fat and in-your-face with nice 3D space.
> When recording same instruments with RME, I loose this character of
original
> sound. Everything gets behind, tracks sound separated (not "glued"
together)
> but the biggest disadvantage is that I loose a lot of "space" (created
with
> older lexicon reverbs). It is more 2D instead of 3D.
> In other words...when I mix analog, it is very easy to find the right
level.
> In digital, it is either to loud or to quiet.
Paris is the same way. You have 5 different gain stage options in the Paris
mixer.
analog gear/desk...
> or closer to sterile cubase/rme digital stuff?
> My production is not about hi-fi, details and such... I just look for
natural,
> fat, full bodied sound. Is Paris the right place to look for these?
> Or is it just closer to analog than Protools but not quite analog?
It's obviously not analog, but it's very close.
egards,
> SF
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I have a Multiface here. I have a Cubase SX template set up a 1.5ms
latency
> >that I use to patch the Multiface converters into my Paris rig via Paris
> >lightpipe fro tracking. I like them both. The Paris and Multiface
converters
> >sound different from each other. I sometimes prefer the Multiface
converters
> >to the Paris on some sources depending on the source, the mic and the
> >preamp.
> >
> >I always track to Paris using the Paris converters, RME converters and
Mytek
> >converters, batch convert them to .wavs, import them to a second DAW
running
> >Cubase, then lightpipe them back to Paris during mixdown. This allows me
> to
> >take advantage of the PDC and editor in SX and the automation in both
> >systems.
> >
> >There's a lot more to getting this to happen than I have described. If
you
> >decide you want to go there, I have attached a word.doc that explains how
> it
> >is done.
> >
> >I prefer the Paris mix bus to the one in SX and unless you just like the
> >sound of the Mackie mixer for some reason, you'll likely be happy with
Paris
> >if you use it's strengths and accept it's limitations.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"SF" <sound_forward@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4429187f$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi everyone! I just found this great newsgroup!
> >>
> >> I have never used Paris but I heard that it is a GREAT sounding system
> but
> >> a little outdated.
> >>
> >> Right now I use Cubase SX / RME multiface as my DAW, which I like very
> >much
> >> functionally, but I don't like its sonics at all.
> >> I find RME converters (at least those on multiface) not good for my
taste.
> >> They have great detail but they are not very "analogish". They sound
> >distant,
> >> thin and not in front.
> >>
> >> I would like to get a small mixing system that will be closer to analog
> >board
> >> feel and sound but with digital board functionality. Paris looks like
> a
> >good
> >> option.
> >>
> >> My plan is to use cubase as DAW and connect it with Paris with ADAT
> >lightpipe.
> >> Paris will be used only for mixing and AD-DA converters. Recording,
MIDI,
> >> VST plugins and VST instruments will remain in cubase.
> >>
> >> Paris rig will consist of one EDS card, c16, mec, 8 analog ins and ADAT
> >card.
> >>
> >> Now, there are some questions left...
> >>
> >> 1. is it possible to use Paris and cubase sx in same computer (windows
> >XP)?
> >> Cubase will be running, and paris will be used only for mix, not
> >recording.
> >>
> >> 2. how good are Paris AD converters on 8 input card in comparison to
RME
> >> multiface and also compared to more expensive converters (apogee,
mytek,
> >> lnyx...)
> >>
> >> 3. same question about stock MEC DA converters (20bit)
> >>
> >> 4. How good is paris for mixing? Right now, I have old Mackie 16
channel
> >> mixer (which sounds way better than mackie 8-bus series and newer VLZ
> >series)
> >> and it sound superior compared to mix inside cubase. Do you think that
> >Paris
> >> in-the-box mix can equal or surpass the quality of better analog desks?
> >Paris
> >> is known to its similar behaviour to analog boards when pushed hard
(near
> >> clipping). Do you think that I could retire my analog desk if I go with
> >Paris
> >> system? I use my analog desk only for line level, not for preamps...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> SF
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>Steve,
No apology necessary. I had extra thick skin installed when I used to
frequent rec.audio.pro many years ago. ;>)
We're cool!
Tony
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442a0cc7$1@linux...
>
> Thanks James,
> yeahhh..... I know... I appologized, but I amay have to fly over there n'
> see him, maybe take him and his wife out for supper or something. Not sure
> yet. but, I did stick my foot in my mouth.
> Steve
> "James McClsokey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Steve! I just wanted to jump in here and say a few things. First
>>welcome
>>to the NG! I've been here since, well, I think around 1997, mostly
>>lurking,
>>and learning. A lot of the greats have moved on, and a lot of the greats
>>are still here, and some still pop in every once in awhile. If you stick
>>around this place it will grow on you.
>>
>>I have to step up and say that I think that there must have been a bit of
>>a miss understanding, or something. It's too bad you got off to a bad
>>start
>>here, hopefully things will get ironed out. I have to say that Tony is
> one
>>of the coolest guys here, and I hope you guys get to know each other, so
>>to speak. I will personally vouch for both of you guys and say that your
>>both good guys, honest men and great to do business with. Tony has always
>>been willing to help out with questions, especially Mac questions. I also
>>know that you will be a great asset to the NG, if you choose to stick
>>around.
>> Both of you guys have personally volunteered to help me out and even
>> picked
>>up the phone to do so, and I really appreciate that, thanks!
>>
>>Again, welcome to the Paris news group!
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>
>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>I have another theory on why you might get help more often when talking
>>on
>>>the phone. In my experience, (and this thread is a prime example) it's
>
>>>pretty difficult to ask a complicated question, or give a complicated
>>>answer
>>
>>>in just a few words. Both parties assume the other understands what they
>>
>>>meant when often there just isn't enough information exchanged. Had we
>
>>>talked on the phone, I'm sure through the course of trouble shooting we
>>may
>>>well have figured out what the hang up was. With that said, if you can
>
>>>contact the software vendor directly, they may have the answer right
>>>away,
>>
>>>as they've probably seen the problem before. Unfortunately, all vendors
>>
>>>aren't nearly as accommodating as Rim Buntinas is and sometimes we have
>>to
>>>work together through trial and error to figure stuff out.
>>>
>>>Over the years this group has developed into much more of a community of
>>
>>>PARIS and former PARIS users and fewer and fewer technical questions come
>>
>>>up. Though I've never meant many of the people I talk with here, I have
>>a
>>>definite sense that they are my friends and many times the banter tends
>>to
>>>be jovial. Don't get me wrong, everyone here can and will be helpful with
>>
>>>PARIS questions, but if you are looking for strictly technical support,
>>you
>>>will be disappointed with much of the "fluff" we engage in. With some
>>>patience, there is a phenomenal amount of collective brain power here to
>>be
>>>tapped. This includes all areas of recording, not just PARIS related.
>>>
>>>There are a million things I don't know about Macs and PARIS, but if you
>>
>>>ever want to bounce a question my way, feel free to give me a call.
>>>515-233-3191. I have a day gig, so call in the evening CST if I'll need
>>to
>>>be at my rig. I might not have a quick answer for you, but I'll be glad
>>to
>>>do what I can to help.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:442953df$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that
>>you
>>>> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
>>>> community
>>>> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
>>
>>>> struck
>>>> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
>>>> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was
>>>> refered
>>>> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all
> the
>>>> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out
>>and
>>>> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check
>>it.
>>>> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type
> in
>>
>>>> the
>>>> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
>>
>>>> me,
>>>> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST
>>>> pluggins"
>>>> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
>>
>>>> garage
>>>> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way
>>I
>>>> have
>>>> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call
>>>> them.
>>>> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to
> act
>>>> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
>>>> psychics
>>>> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
>>
>>>> professional.
>>>> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't come
>>to
>>>> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how to
>>
>>>> swear
>>>> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was
>>told
>>>> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help from
>>
>>>> others
>>>> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for me.
>>
>>>> Check
>>>> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay
> low
>>>> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly, if
>>you
>>>> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no
>>>> folder
>>>> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
>>>> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
>>>> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be
> how
>>>> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
>>
>>>> have
>>>> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog
> was
>>>> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I
>>>> will
>>>> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony,
>>I
>>>> appologise.
>>>> Steve Cox
>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>Hey Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to post
>>>>>follow
>>>>
>>>>>up questions when the answer doesn't make sense to you. This group is
>>very
>>>>
>>>>>tolerant and very helpful, I know because I ask some of the most
>>>>>obviously
>>>>
>>>>>dumb questions around.
>>>>>
>>>>>We're not psychics here, we have no idea who you are, what your level
>>of
>>>>
>>>>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>>>>
>>>>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just
>>>>>unaware
>>>> of
>>>>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a bind.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4428b142$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Have you never used VST plug-ins with PARIS before? I guess I just
> take
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>for granted that everyone has already created a VST plug in folder.
>>>>>>>Anyway,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>my instructions were correct assuming you had a VST folder and can
>
>>>>>>>follow
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the Drumagog directions on resetting the path to that folder. Been
>
>>>>>>>running
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Drumagog with PARIS on my G4 for a couple years now and the install
>>>>>>>couldn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>have been easier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>PS - He spells his name Rim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:442869c4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>How and where do I install DRUMAGOG in Paris 3.0 MAC G4
>>>>>>>>>Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None of what I have read on this forum regarding installing the
>>>>>>>> drumagog
>>>>>>>> plugin. So I called the guy who created the program. Unique name,
>>>>>>>> Rem.....
>>>>>>>> Anyhow I will post what he had me do because it was the only thing
>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't have a folder in Paris that is called VSTPlugins. That
> is
>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> always been everyones big holdup! You have to Create a folder on
> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hard
>>>>>>>> drive and Label it (and with NO GAPS)
>>>>>>>> VSTPlugins. (no .) Then when you hit the installer and let it do
> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Easy
>>>>>>>> Install" it will look for THAT folder that you created.
>>>>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into the
>>>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System folder
>>in
>>>>
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run
> this
>>>>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin, one
>>for
>>>>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was aware
>>was
>>>>
>>>>>> available,
>>>>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the
>>>>>> first
>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya know,
>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I
>>>>>> rarely
>>>>
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help,
>>I
>>>> get
>>>>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>>
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio
>>time
>>>>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Good on ya Steve! I looked and looked, but can't lay my hands on my extra's.
I know have a couple. . . somewhere. :>(
Tony
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442a0ed4$1@linux...
>
> Hey Don,
> Did I respond to this one before, telling you I would check on it? Well,
> I have three fronts and three backs. Black.
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Thanks Tony, greatly appreciated
>>
>>DOn
>>
>>
>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>>news:44299fb4$1@linux...
>>>I might Don. I'll dig around in the closet when I get home and let you
>
>>>know.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44299ceb@linux...
>>>> Thanks a million Rick
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got a couple of front plates
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:p71j229olpt1t1o1se8me4i8i4nav35crn@4ax.com...
>>>>> shoot me yo address and i can get the backs out to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:14:33 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm looking for two of each (front and back) preferably black but not
>>>>>>necessary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DOn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:khqi229jc91rpof4m1b7ig5ur7aqvsfknh@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> front or back??? i have 2 blk and 1 blue for the rear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:08:52 -0500, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I can't believe with all the buying and selling as of late a few
>>>>>>>>plates
>>>>>>>>aren't floating around..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>The yellow seems to fit that bike really nicely IMHO.
Tony
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4429d595$1@linux...
As I near the time when I'm going to have my ole' Interceptor painted, I'm
having some trouble deciding where I want to land. Thus, a little play in
Photoshop and some polling of thoughts from the Paris think tank are in
order - what could be mo' fun?
Things I'm looking at the top of the list are:
Upkeep (for instance, black looks great but always needs cleaning and
pre-paint flaws are _tough_ to fix)
Visibility. Color is no good if it's mixed with my broken body under a
pickup cause they "didn't see" me.
Cool factor. Let's face it, chicks dont dig ugly bikes or dudes on them.
(yes, I realize this ain't no Harley!)
Up until now it's been nothing more than a daily driver, but I think I may
want to push a little fun on that now that the weather is more forgiving. I
have a buddy with a nice paint shop out in the sticks that's offered to
shoot the paint for a 6 pack of import. Can't imagine not taking him up on
that one.
http://smirk.bjenterprise.com/VF/index.html
As Always, Mucho Gracias
AA
PS - Feel free to drop thoughts here, there are no wrong answers really,
just looking for what I may not be thinking about/covering.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlThanks Tony, That means a lot. Hey did you see my post, wondering about any
manuals or info on how to use them free inserts" Mod Pack, Kickback and Eventiter?
I am always looking for great plugins for Paris-(mac)
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Steve,
>
>No apology necessary. I had extra thick skin installed when I used to
>frequent rec.audio.pro many years ago. ;>)
>
>We're cool!
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:442a0cc7$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks James,
>> yeahhh..... I know... I appologized, but I amay have to fly over there
n'
>> see him, maybe take him and his wife out for supper or something. Not
sure
>> yet. but, I did stick my foot in my mouth.
>> Steve
>> "James McClsokey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Steve! I just wanted to jump in here and say a few things. First
>>>welcome
>>>to the NG! I've been here since, well, I think around 1997, mostly
>>>lurking,
>>>and learning. A lot of the greats have moved on, and a lot of the greats
>>>are still here, and some still pop in every once in awhile. If you stick
>>>around this place it will grow on you.
>>>
>>>I have to step up and say that I think that there must have been a bit
of
>>>a miss understanding, or something. It's too bad you got off to a bad
>>>start
>>>here, hopefully things will get ironed out. I have to say that Tony is
>> one
>>>of the coolest guys here, and I hope you guys get to know each other,
so
>>>to speak. I will personally vouch for both of you guys and say that your
>>>both good guys, honest men and great to do business with. Tony has always
>>>been willing to help out with questions, especially Mac questions. I
also
>>>know that you will be a great asset to the NG, if you choose to stick
>>>around.
>>> Both of you guys have personally volunteered to help me out and even
>>> picked
>>>up the phone to do so, and I really appreciate that, thanks!
>>>
>>>Again, welcome to the Paris news group!
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>Steve,
>>>>
>>>>I have another theory on why you might get help more often when talking
>>>on
>>>>the phone. In my experience, (and this thread is a prime example) it's
>>
>>>>pretty difficult to ask a complicated question, or give a complicated
>>>>answer
>>>
>>>>in just a few words. Both parties assume the other understands what they
>>>
>>>>meant when often there just isn't enough information exchanged. Had we
>>
>>>>talked on the phone, I'm sure through the course of trouble shooting
we
>>>may
>>>>well have figured out what the hang up was. With that said, if you can
>>
>>>>contact the software vendor directly, they may have the answer right
>>>>away,
>>>
>>>>as they've probably seen the problem before. Unfortunately, all vendors
>>>
>>>>aren't nearly as accommodating as Rim Buntinas is and sometimes we have
>>>to
>>>>work together through trial and error to figure stuff out.
>>>>
>>>>Over the years this group has developed into much more of a community
of
>>>
>>>>PARIS and former PARIS users and fewer and fewer technical questions
come
>>>
>>>>up. Though I've never meant many of the people I talk with here, I have
>>>a
>>>>definite sense that they are my friends and many times the banter tends
>>>to
>>>>be jovial. Don't get me wrong, everyone here can and will be helpful
with
>>>
>>>>PARIS questions, but if you are looking for strictly technical support,
>>>you
>>>>will be disappointed with much of the "fluff" we engage in. With some
>>>>patience, there is a phenomenal amount of collective brain power here
to
>>>be
>>>>tapped. This includes all areas of recording, not just PARIS related.
>>>>
>>>>There are a million things I don't know about Macs and PARIS, but if
you
>>>
>>>>ever want to bounce a question my way, feel free to give me a call.
>>>>515-233-3191. I have a day gig, so call in the evening CST if I'll need
>>>to
>>>>be at my rig. I might not have a quick answer for you, but I'll be glad
>>>to
>>>>do what I can to help.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:442953df$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> OK..... I am taking in all that all of you are saying. It appears that
>>>you
>>>>> feel it is I that have offended you (Tony). Alright... you have a
>>>>> community
>>>>> of folks here and I rather new to the forum have posted something that
>>>
>>>>> struck
>>>>> a nerve. Tony I appologize.
>>>>> Aside from the VST issue, I will tell you what set me off. I was
>>>>> refered
>>>>> to this site, told just what you guys are all saying here, about all
>> the
>>>>> old pros of the Paris n'all..... Great!! so I started checking it out
>>>and
>>>>> see what gets covered on the forum. Daily (for a while) I would check
>>>it.
>>>>> Never saw anything remotely mentioned about the Paris. In fact, type
>> in
>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> word Paris in the search engine. Know what you'll find? Now don't quote
>>>
>>>>> me,
>>>>> but I think there is a couple entries. Type in "installing VST
>>>>> pluggins"
>>>>> The point I am myphed about is,90% is every other software, relatives,
>>>
>>>>> garage
>>>>> sales, and my favorite, crafty ways to swear on the web. The only way
>>>I
>>>>> have
>>>>> ever gotten help, was if I e-mailed someone and asked if I may call
>>>>> them.
>>>>> THEN! I got help. Know why?? Because now you would be accountable to
>> act
>>>>> professional. Don, in regard to "cut us some slack" and "we're not
>>>>> psychics
>>>>> here" Point well taken. That's constructive, and calls me to act more
>>>
>>>>> professional.
>>>>> In regard to "get thicker skined" well... point taken but, I don't
come
>>>to
>>>>> the forum to screw around, tell jokes with cute little ways of how
to
>>>
>>>>> swear
>>>>> on the web (which I am not accusing you of) I come here because I was
>>>told
>>>>> that this is a website of professional people who can ask for help
from
>>>
>>>>> others
>>>>> who have been through the mill. This is a very serious business for
me.
>>>
>>>>> Check
>>>>> out my website and you will see. stevecoxproductions.com I will lay
>> low
>>>>> and cut off any heated posts that I may feel led to enter. Lastly,
if
>>>you
>>>>> install Paris on a computer solely commited to Paris, there is no
>>>>> folder
>>>>> called VSTPlugins. The folder paris has ( HD>System
>>>>> Folder>Ensoniq>Plugins)is
>>>>> all you find. When one of you mentioned Stienberg, ahhhh that may be
>> how
>>>>> there is a folder somewhere on their HD labled VSTPlugins. But I don't
>>>
>>>>> have
>>>>> Stienberg anything or MOTU anything. I have Paris. Rim from Drumagog
>> was
>>>>> the first ever of anyone who instantly knew what the problem was. I
>>>>> will
>>>>> lay low now, and will reply as professionally as possible. Again Tony,
>>>I
>>>>> appologise.
>>>>> Steve Cox
>>>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>Hey Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry about your previous NG experiences but you might want to po
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| Re: Power_supply_upgrade_photo [message #64684 is a reply to message #64682] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 14:32  |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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>>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I
>>>>>>>> rarely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real help,
>>>>I
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what else
>>>>
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of studio
>>>>time
>>>>>>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it. Later......
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Paul's got you covered.
Tony
"Paul" <pn@nc.com> wrote in message news:442ad4f8$1@linux...
>
> Steve,
>
> The manuals and install instructions for the effects are inside the zip
> files.
> Enjoy.
>
>
> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks Tony, That means a lot. Hey did you see my post, wondering about
> any
>>manuals or info on how to use them free inserts" Mod Pack, Kickback and
> Eventiter?
>>I am always looking for great plugins for Paris-(mac)
>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>Steve,
>>>
>>>No apology necessary. I had extra thick skin installed when I used to
>>>frequent rec.audio.pro many years ago. ;>)
>>>
>>>We're cool!
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>news:442a0cc7$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks James,
>>>> yeahhh..... I know... I appologized, but I amay have to fly over there
>>n'
>>>> see him, maybe take him and his wife out for supper or something. Not
>>sure
>>>> yet. but, I did stick my foot in my mouth.
>>>> Steve
>>>> "James McClsokey" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Power_supply_upgrade_photo [message #64693 is a reply to message #64681] |
Sun, 19 February 2006 21:23 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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hics here, we have no idea who you are, what your
>>>>>>>>level
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>experience is etc. so cut us some slack.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That being said Tony gave you the correct answer...you were just
>>>>>>>>unaware
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>the "VSTPlugin folder" issue...no need to get your knickers in a
>>>>>>>>bind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ps. This is the internet, grow some thicker skin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:4428b142$Report message to a moderator
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| Re: Power_supply_upgrade_photo [message #64697 is a reply to message #64694] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 00:30 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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ted.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is what creates the plugin. Then you drag that plugin into
>>the
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>>>>>>> folder that is in the Ensoniq folder that is in the System
>>>>>>>>>>> folder
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> Hard Drive.
>>>>>>>>>>> Drumogog is incredible!
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Cox Productions
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Tony, I'm not an idiot. So quit talking to me like one. I have run
>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> studio for 25 years. I bought the first two Paris' in Wisconsin,
>>one
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>> each studio. I have installed every possible VST plugin I was
>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> available,
>>>>>>>>> from T-Racks editing suite to Amplitube to Waves etc. This is the
>>
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> does not install itself correctly using it's own installer. Ya
>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> is the very reason I have told other people on the forum that I
>
>>>>>>>>> rarely
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>>> anything, because every time I do, instead of getting any real
>>>>>>>>> help,
>>>>>I
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> slapped upside the head with comments like yours. Tell ya what
>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> I'm still hot here, sometimes I would rather waiste a day of
>>>>>>>>> studio
>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>> trying to figure it out myself then (sadly)to risk the smart mouth
>>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>> I get almost every time I enter a post. Hardly worth it.
>>>>>>>>> Later......
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>All I got from him, was the installers and info on how to install.
Steve
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Paul's got you covered.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Paul" <pn@nc.com> wrote in message news:442ad4f8$1@linux..
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| Re: Power_supply_upgrade_photo [message #64698 is a reply to message #64697] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 01:02 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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.
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> The manuals and install instructions for the effects are inside the zip
>> files.
>> Enjoy.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks Tony, That means a lot. Hey did you see my post, wondering about
>> any
>>>manuals or info on how to use them free inserts" Mod Pack, Kickback and
>> Eventiter?
>>>I am always looking for great plugins for Paris-(mac)
>>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>Steve,
>>>>
>>>>No apology necessary. I had extra thick skin installed when I used to
>>>>frequent rec.audio.pro many years ago. ;>)
>>>>
>>>>We're cool!
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:442a0cc7$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks James,
>>>>> yeahhh..... I know... I appologized, but I amay have to fly over there
>>>n'
>>>>> see him, maybe take him and his wife out for supper or something. Not
>>>sure
>>>>> yet. but, I did stick my foot in my mouth.
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> "James McClsokey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Steve! I just wanted to jump in here and say a few things. First
>>>
>>>>>>welcome
>>>>>>to the NG! I've been here since, well, I think around 1997, mostly
>>>>>>lurking,
>>>>>>and learning. A lot of the greats have moved on, and a lot of the
>>>>>>greats
>>>>>>are still here, and some still pop in every once in awhile. If you
>> stick
>>>>>>around this place it will grow on you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have to step up and say that I think that there must have been a
bit
>>>of
>>>>>>a miss understanding, or something. It's too bad you got off to a
bad
>>>
>>>>>>start
>>>>>>here, hopefully things will get ironed out. I have to say that Tony
>> is
>>>>> one
>>>>>>of the coolest guys here, and I hope you guys get to know each other,
>>>so
>>>>>>to speak. I will personally vouch for both of you guys and say that
>> your
>>>>>>both good guys, honest men and great to do business with. Tony has
>>>>>>always
>>>>>>been willing to help out with questions, especially Mac questions.
I
>>>also
>>>>>>know that you will be a great asset to the NG, if you choose to stick
>>>
>>>>>>around.
>>>>>> Both of you guys have personally volunteered to help me out and even
>>>
>>>>>> picked
>>>>>>up the phone to do so, and I really appreciate that, thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Again, welcome to the Paris news group!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Steve,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have another theory on why you might get help more often when
>>>>>>>talking
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>the phone. In my experience, (and this thread is a prime example)
it's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>pretty difficult to ask a complicated question, or give a complicated
>>>
>>>>>>>answer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>in just a few words. Both parties assume the other understands what
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| Re: Power_supply_upgrade_photo [message #64714 is a reply to message #64698] |
Mon, 20 February 2006 10:33 |
lamont[1]
Messages: 7
Registered: February 2006
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to get a given sound could be handy, though it's usefulness
is
>subject to what gear a person has. I'm not keen to go this far in the immediate
>future with my site though. Sounds like a lot of work. ;o)
I'm sure your right.
>
>>have a down loadable pdf or Word
>>document that would have a bio with contact information,
>
>IIRC the Paris Directory didn't go as well as hoped, largely not because
>of the format, but because people didn't bother to or weren't intereted
in
>submitting. Unfortunate, but I must confess I was guilty myself...
It was vary out dated, and I think most people didn't know about it or where
to look for it.
>
>In any case I know search engines are capable of searching PDFs and DOCs.
>Not sure what the spammers use, but I suspect they can too.
I think it would be a lot harder to data mine a pdf file. Maybe we could
go under ground with this file and distribute it among us directly with out
posting it. This file would be voluntary anyway.
>
>>The Paris Players Directory
>
>This is an interesting idea, and it would probably work even better if it
>wasn't restricted to Paris. I suspect you'd be largely restricted to hobby
>muso's / studio owners if you expect people to work for nothing, but if
you
>could reach enough people you might get something happening. In any case
>you could list people's rates for those who aren't free. In fact it's probably
>a damned brilliant business idea in that context. A worldwide internet muso
>for hire directory. People could charge anything from nothing, credit acknowledgement,
>to royalty or rates, or both. Have samples... list styles and what instruments
>a person has.
well I wasn't just thinking of Paris files, but it would make us more compatible
with each other.
I have been thinking about doing this as a business, and I intend to do so
in time. Making it a profitable business model is a whole other story.
I thought it would be something that would help all of us out at one time
or another. I was thinking UP to 3 free tracks to get started, you could
pay for the track you use maybe, and if somebody wanted more they could pay
for more based on somebody's set rate. It would be great to be able to choose
from a pool of talent. I'll bet there are some great players here. The
concept of having a rock song that has something missing and putting it out
to five different players, and having the track come back with something
that fits so well. Something that you have just never thought of. Have
a jazz guitarist lay down a track on your funk project. Michael Jackson
did this kind of thing on the song "Beat it" when he had Eddie Van Halen
a rock guitarist, lay down the guitar tracks.
This could lead to work and income for our studios. As an example, I write
all kinds of music, If I wrote a country song, but I don't play fiddle, I
could look in the Directory for somebody that has it in their profile. So
say somebody in CO.; ) has a hot fiddle player that he works with, I could
send him the tracks with a keyboard melody of basically how I want the fiddle
part to go. The experienced fiddle player could play the melody and fill
in the nooks and crannies. That could change the whole dynamic of the song.
The best part, everybody would get paid. This could also showcase our talents
as players and engineers.
>
>Got any web design skills? ;o) You could be rich! ;o)
I know basic HTML and Dreamweaver. I would call myself a neophyte, but stick
around, I'll get smarter! Yes, I would be glad to help in any way, time
is my only problem, so it may be a little slow getting things done.
>
>Actually, seriously, you have a lot of ideas in here overall. The Paris
community
>does appear to be slowly but surely shrinking. You have a lot of ideas,
and
>I'm sure many of them would be appreciated were you to put something together.
>I'm sure certain mainstays, such as ParisFaq's and this site, will be here
>for many years to come, but we're all keen to see new additions. :o) And
>I'll happily link to anything that you create that's Paris related.
Cool!
Shrinkage is never good! I know it's a lot, but let's make it more, and
better if we can.
>
>Got any webspace?
I have a little now and I will be buying more in the future, and I guess
I could always do the freebee single page stuff to get started.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
Thanks for all your hard work Kim!
James
>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I need (rather badly) to do an update of the newsgroup website. Those
who
>>>visit via the website may well have noticed the (hopelessly outdated)
list
>>>of Paris links on the site.
>>>
>>>I'd like to get a list of all the Paris sites that are about. I beleive
>>about
>>>half the ones already listed are still working. I'm pretty sure I've heard
>>>a couple thrown ar
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