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I LOVE MY MESA TREMOVERB! [message #71230] Mon, 14 August 2006 19:27 Go to next message
Jeremy Luzier is currently offline  Jeremy Luzier   UNITED STATES
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with onboard RAID and SATA controller
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Re: I LOVE MY MESA TREMOVERB! [message #71236 is a reply to message #71230] Mon, 14 August 2006 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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am's founder) as "evil
and
> inhuman" because if it's command to "spread by the sword the faith". The
> Pope made no such characterization - just quoted the old guy, and it isn't
> even clear if he quoted any of the "offensive" text.
>
> As a protest, two Catholic, two Anglican, and one Greek church in the West
> Bank were attacked by Palestinians using guns, firebombs and lighter
fluid -
> charring the churches and riddling them with bullet holes.
>
> Umm...reality check: 2+2=4. The Earth still c
Re: I LOVE MY MESA TREMOVERB! [message #71255 is a reply to message #71236] Tue, 15 August 2006 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Flanigan is currently offline  Gary Flanigan
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these additional
> practices should be imposed on society as a whole.
>
> The Golden Rule may also be of use as a basic moral foundation.
>
> So yes, you can have a moral system, one that BTW protects the freedom
> to practice religious beliefs (or not), without basing it on any one
> religion. And it can protect all religions better than a system based on
> any one religion (AKA a theocracy).
>
> There are other issues surrounding religions, such as the many examples
> of selfless dedication to helping others on the one hand, and hijacked
> religions used to legitimize earthly power structures in other cases.
> Dedric, I look forward to talking with you about the positives and
> negatives of various religions, and where a moral culture ought to go
> from here, whenever we next get together.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
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Re: I LOVE MY MESA TREMOVERB! [message #71323 is a reply to message #71230] Wed, 16 August 2006 15:11 Go to previous message
Jeremy Luzier is currently offline  Jeremy Luzier   UNITED STATES
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> >>> not bound even by his own word….” This is not seen as an insult.
> >>> Islam embraces this description. In offering this description of
> >>> Islam, Benedict refers to the views of leading modern French
> >>> Islamist R. Arnaldez as discussed in the writings of Professor
> >>> Theodore Khoury of Munster.
> >>>
> >>> Likewise the secularists express no dismay at the pope’s
> >>> characterization of a secularist as: “(A) subject (who) then
> >>> decides, on the basis of his experiences, what he considers
> >>> tenable in matters of religion, and the subjective ‘conscience’
> >>> becomes the sole arbiter of what is ethical.”
> >>>
> >>> Benedict asserts that without reason, or without God, there can
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