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| Re: Does anyone have an extra China cymbal that Terry can borrow? [message #97677 is a reply to message #97675] |
Mon, 31 March 2008 20:50   |
Neil
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or ³what we
>> >might
>> >once have been² has some minor academic/historical interest to me, but
>> >as
>> a
>> >"minority case" - a returning user after years of absence - I naturally
>> come
>> >to it from the perspective of ³where we are right now². Iım not
> interested
>> >in ³might have beens² any more - Iım interested in what we might achieve
>> >starting from here and going forward.
>> >
>> >So while it's true we were larger long ago, a hard floor of 125 real
> users
>> >is a good strong number, an excellent number, for aficionado-driven
> efforts
>> >for a discontinued niche market DAW to go forward with. Itıs much larger
>> >than some aficionado groups for other pieces of discontinued technology,
>> and
>> >some of those smaller groups have got quite a lot of very meaningful
>> >work
>> >done. And 400 users worldwide may not be Nuendo numbers but for small
>> >developers itıs nothing to sneeze at.
>> >
>> >Hope this is of interest!
>> >
>> >- Kerry
>> >
>>
>
>This is a highly interesting pattern that crops up again and again - one
visible PARIS user here on the NG equals two more invisible ones outside.
The estimates previously made of overall PARIS users weren't made using that
ratio; they were derived by completely different means of guesstimation. As
Aaron has mentioned, the sales numbers for the PARIS video bear these
numbers out (they were a bit higher, but attrition since then would account
for that).
But this model does seem to be a pretty compelling one. Using that ratio,
125 identified users would give an additional 250 non-identified users,
which would add up to 375 overall - which would put us within a single-digit
margin of error of our overall estimate of 400.
I don't know much about statistics but that does seem to be a pretty
compelling symmetry.
To me, given the rapid advances and massive price drops of
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| Re: Does anyone have an extra China cymbal that Terry can borrow? [message #97679 is a reply to message #97677] |
Mon, 31 March 2008 20:55 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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508$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Yeah, it could be a litle bigger. I know of two Paris users I'm in
>>> regular
>>> contact with, that to my knowledge, have never posted on this sight. So
>> I'm
>>> thinking there might be a few more of us that post here that might have
>> similar
>>> contacts that just don't post. Probably not a large number, but then
>> again,
>>> maybe more than you might think. For example, if ther are 400 users world
>>> wide, and 100 of them have 2 people they know of (like me) that have
>>> never
>>> posted, that's 200 more users right there.
>>> Or not, I don't know. just thinking.
>>> Rod
>>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi folks. Hereıs one of a series of updates/info posts (and - brace
>>>> yourselves - some action requests) which Iıll be putting in separate
>> posts.
>>>>
>>>> Iıve been working on some basic infrastructure that I reckon we need to
>>>> support any forward motion. Blog/wiki/networking/development rig are
>>>> certainly part of that infrastructure but we also had a serious need for
>>>> hard info - things like current community size and composition etc. If
>>>> we
>>>> want to tell outside developers who we are as a community, we better
>>>> know
>>>> who we are first, and I had the suspicion that my "spitball"
>>>> guesstimates
>>>> weren't doing us much justice.
>>>>
>>>> Now, Iım not trained in data collection and analysis but I do fine at
>>>> research and detective work, and what I lack in skills I cheerfully
>>>> supplement with grunt work. I wanted to share one of the results of that
>>>> basic research with you all.
>>>>
>>>> Iıve seen the question ³how big is the PARIS community?² asked several
>> times
>>>> before. As far as I know we never got a definitive answer. We've now got
>>> a
>>>> fairly firm "floor" for the size of the current PARIS user community. It
>>>> stands at an eye-opening (at least to me) 125 current users - and
>>>> rising,
>>> so
>>>> if anything thatıs an unde
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