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| Re: Windows INstaller HELP [message #79639 is a reply to message #79638] |
Wed, 07 February 2007 06:33   |
Aaron Allen
 Messages: 1988 Registered: May 2008
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deny it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The record companies have been pushing such crap music for the last
>15
>>>>years
>>>>>>that they were in trouble. With the advent of MP3s and the increased
>>>use
>>>>>>of personal computers, the record companies could no longer maintain
>>control
>>>>>>of their music. With P2P file sharing, and the huge salaries they
were
>>>>>paying
>>>>>>the pimps to run the record companies, and the crap artists they signed,
>>>>>>they were losing revenue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve Jobs came to them with a good BUSINESS MODEL/PLAN! It was a
great
>>>>>>deal for the record companies. Apple pays them on average, $0.85 per
>>>song!
>>>>>> Apple had to set up the whole infrastructure and maintain the system
>>>out
>>>>>>of pocket. Many of the songs are remastered, and Apple has the task
>>of
>>>>>encoding
>>>>>>all of the songs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The reason the record companies signed with Apple is not because Steve
>>>>Jobs
>>>>>>brow beat them. They signed because it was a good deal and because
>they
>>>>>>were on their asses! Record companies were mismanaged and were going
>>>out
>>>>>>of business, and were being restructured at that time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve Jobs business plan worked, and has help save the record industry.
>>>>>
>>>>>>In order to get them to go for the plan, Apple had to agree to limit
>>the
>>>>>>number of copies a user can have on a number of machines. It is a
reasonable
>>>>>>number of copies! I believe it six. Unlike MS/Rapsody, where as soon
>>>>as
>>>>>>you stop paying MS, the music stops being playable. At least you get
>>>to
>>>>>>keep what you buy with iTunes, unlike MS's DRM bullshit!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The record companies are doing fine now, and now the greedy bastards
>>want
>>>>>>more. They are trying to force Apple to raise prices. Jobs would
like
>>>>>to
>>>>>>see them relax and open the market up more by dropping the DRM. The
>>Pay
>>>>>>to play model sucks for consumers. It's MS's pay to play DRM that
Apple
>>>>>>is fighting against. Yet you blame Apple, and accuse them of the
pay
>>>>of
>>>>>>play model.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Look at the record companies and the lock they have on music distribution
>>>>>>and Air play. Apple has tried to help artist and independent record
>>labels
>>>>>>to get their product out there to the public. Apple has given the
public
>>>>>>a place to buy music, a lot of music at a reasonable price. Apple
doesn't
>>>>>>force you to buy the whole record to get one good song.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The greedy entitled record companies have tried to screw the artists
>>and
>>>>>>musicians out of their fair share. They are trying to squeeze everybody
>>>>>>they and their greasy lawyers can. Look at how many people the r
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| Re: Windows INstaller HELP [message #79640 is a reply to message #79639] |
Wed, 07 February 2007 06:41   |
brandon[2]
 Messages: 380 Registered: June 2006
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ecord
>>>>companies
>>>>>>and the RIAA have sued! They have their lobby group the RIAA which
>is
>>>>a
>>>>>>gang of thug lawyers that pushes everybody around. Impoverished kids
>>>and
>>>>>>single moms! They don't care, pay up or else! Slime!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MS, look at the things they've done. They have stolen from Apple,
netscape,
>>>>>>Sun, the list goes on, and the list is long. Look at how much they
>>have
>>>>>>taken. They steal, then they turn around and prosecute people that
>copy
>>>>>>their software, when much of it was stolen by them. How many times
>have
>>>>>>you heard of Apple having people prosecuted?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yep, it's Apple that is evil, and it's Steve Jobs that is the bad guy.
>>>>
>>>>>It's
>>>>>>Jobs that wants to take your freedoms away, not Gates and his Pay to
>>Play
>>>>>>model.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Get a clue!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, my main take on it is that I don't care, I simply will not buy
>>>things
>>>>>>>in a format that treats me like I'm a criminal. My secondary take
on
>>>it
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>that Esteban Jobs is wicked smart and managed to brow beat the record
>>>>labels
>>>>>>>into using his store precisely because of the DRM it had. Now that
>he's
>>>>>>cornered
>>>>>>>the market he's campaigning for the removal of the DRM because, surprise,
>>>>>>>customers don't like it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm also quite sure that some day in the not too distant future when
>>>you
>>>>>>>buy a car you'll have to sign and EULA that says, 'This 'motor vehicle'
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>licensed, not sold, to you . . .'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this one. I'm trying
>to
>>>>convince
>>>>>>>the Mold Monkies to release our upcoming second CD as both .ogg and
>>flac
>>>>>>>files into the file sharing universe. I'm hoping to include a note
>pointing
>>>>>>>people to our web site and saying only that if they like our music
>it
>>>>would
>>>>>>>be really cool if they would buy a sticker or a T-Shirt or pick up
>my
>>>>bar
>>>>>>>tab some night. I haven't completely convinced the guys, I don't write
>>>>>songs
>>>>>>>for this band so it's their copyright not mine, but I'm getting closer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thad-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What's your take on the idea that DRM is being foisted on all online
>>>>stores
>>>>>>>>by the
>>>>>>>>respective rights holders/publishers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>FLAC is very good. If anyone's on Mac, Amadeus will play FLAC files...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ted
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Other than the DRM and the fact that you're locked into their hardware,
>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>not bad. Which is kind of like the famous, 'Other than, Mrs. Lincoln,
>>>>>>how
>>>>>>>>>was the show?'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>For higher quality audio, check out FLAC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>OK, so I'm an (admittedly) old curmudgeon and only listen to compressed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>audio files when I absolutely have to and I especially go out of
>>my
>>>>>way
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>avoid having anything to do with Mac related stuff as a matter
of
>>>principle,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>but Amy likes Apple and so I loaded ITunes on her new PC and I've
>>>been
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>playing around with it. Yeah, I know.........I'm only 5 years behind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>everyone else here, but anyway, all I can say is that I *really*
>>like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>ITunes. I can't find anything I don't like about it. If I were
going
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>design something like this, I couldn't do it any better (now hows
>>>that
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>egotism?).
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