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| Re: Gas hostages [message #85210 is a reply to message #85202] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 05:35   |
Aaron Allen
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64;linux...
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>> I agree and I concur.
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>> Simultaneously.
>>
>> Everyone should own this CD!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I know this has been done, but...
>>>
>>>If you haven't got this CD GET IT! Mine arrived this week after much
>>>procrastinating
>>>and I just gave it a first listen and I've got to say, despite the rave
>> reviews
>>>it already received here, I have been blown away. It's really really
>>>*really*
>>>good.
>>>
>>>At track eleven I looked at the stereo, noted track eleven on the display
>>>and thought "Oh no, it CAN'T be over!". Fortunately there were still three
>>>tracks to go. Admittedly it's a 14 track disk running only 45 odd minutes,
>>>and it probably sits nicely at that length, but the songs are all
>>>relatively
>>>short. This however keeps the disk alive throughout.
>>>
>>>New ideas are thrown up constantly, and it is always interesting and yet
>>>always appealing. I have confidence it will survive many listens, and
yet
>>>is amazing from the first. Timing tricks, unexpected yet comfortable chord
>>>changes, wonderful harmonies and performances, and from what I could tell
>>>on the little boom box that scored the first play, an excellent production
>>>and sound quality.
>>>
>>>I won't go on and on, but I could. If you've been wondering about buying
>>>this, get it. I can't wait to play it to my friends.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
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>
>Hey man, are you SURE that the Mytek convertors sound better
than the RME's? Not that I'm doubting your word, I'm just
wondering if the fact that you're using a Fireface (Firewire
buss) vs. a Multiface (PCI buss) makes a differece?
I just don't see how a better convertor set than the Multiface
can be had for less than some ungodly-high price point (perhaps
I am ignorant, though, I will allow- - i haven't tried
everything that's out there... i just know how good/how well
these reproduce accurate audio).
Talk to us, Dimi. Have you compared anything in the RME realm
besides the Fireface to the Mytek?
NeilI'll try & demo them. $799 apiece is NOT bad if they are kinda
like a baby-brother equivalent to the 801's, which I know a
number of places - including Abbey Road - use for mastering.
Neil
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| Re: OT: Gas hostages [message #85222 is a reply to message #85202] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 06:56 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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t;
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>Neil wrote:
>> Hey man, are you SURE that the Mytek convertors sound better
>> than the RME's?
>The Mytek's converters sound excellent. They should sense they are 3
>times the price of the Multiface/Fireface I/Os. To some people they will
>sound better than RME's. But sense Mytek make no affordable sound cards
>with analog I/O on them it is not correct to compare them the
>Multiface/Fireface I/O. Mytek makes dedicated AD and DA converters only
>so the only comparison would be the ADI-8 DS, ADI-2 or ADI8-QS models.
>The RME converters used on the used on the Fireface, Multiface and
>HDSP9632 are some of the best you will get integrated onto a sound card.
>The Myteks should logically sound better than the Multiface and
>Fireface. If they didn't I don't think Mytek would be in business..:)
>
>> Not that I'm doubting your word, I'm just
>> wondering if the fact that you're using a Fireface (Firewire
>> buss) vs. a Multiface (PCI buss) makes a differece?
>>
>The Fireface 800 has slightly better converters than the Multiface. The
>Multiface has the same converters as the Fireface 400. There is not
>sound difference being caused by one being Fire wire and one being PCI.
>
>> I just don't see how a better convertor set than the Multiface
>> can be had for less than some ungodly-high price point (perhaps
>> I am ignorant, though, I will allow- - i haven't tried
>> everything that's out there... i just know how good/how well
>> these reproduce accurate audio).
>>
>
>It can't. Mytek makes nothing that is the same price wise and
>functionality wish that comes close the value of these RME converters.
>It wouldn't be fair to be comparing the price of a used or discontinued
>piece of Mytek gear. The closest product they make that can honestly be
>compared is the 8x192 with the fire wire option card but that sell for
>$3900.
>
>
>> Talk to us, Dimi. Have you compared anything in the RME realm
>> besides the Fireface to the Mytek?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>Chris
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762What is SC?
DJ wrote:
> I've been playing around with it today, comparing it to different combos
> of the vintage Neve stuff. It's less colored, but it's got that same hi
> fi vibe and can do some rather extreme things if abused properly. I
> think it can SC as well. Haven't looked that far under the hood yet. If
> it can SC, my life will be complete and my studio will be finished and I
> will never need to buy another piece of gear or sortware ever again.
>
> ;oD
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote
> in message news:467dfde0$1@linux...
> So I shouldn't need it right?
> T.
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> wrote in message news:Report message to a moderator
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| Re: OT: Gas hostages [message #85229 is a reply to message #85202] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 07:19 |
chuck duffy
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"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>Anyone know some good sites for impulses to use in SIR ? I am really impressed
>with the PCM90 drum impulses on a snare with some PSP Vintage Warmer on
it.
> SweetI'm a bit concerned when using a clock that the MEC
> sample lite goes to 48k, but I guess I could live with it. Would an
> external clock make a significant difference on a 1-MEC system or would a
> DAConverter help clear up any muddyness or harshness more?
The DAC-1 will give you clearer picture of your mix. It is far superior to
the Paris DAC, even if Paris is clocked to an external source. The external
clock will improve the A/D and D/A resolution of your entire system,
including the D/A that you use to monitor you mix. This D/A converter still
will not achieve the level of resolution of a Benchmark DAC-1, Mytek Stereo
D/A, Lavry, etc, but it will definitely help. What I would look for is
something like an old Apogee PSX 100
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM99/Apogee/PSX-100. html
...........or an older Mytek Stereo AD/DA unit (I forget that they are named,
but Dimitrios would know.he has one) and David Seymour at Mytek might be
able to help you find one..
These units have a clock that you can use to clock Paris externally and you
will get a superior A/D converter for critical tracking and a superior D/A
converter for monitoring, all in the same box.
You don't need anything capable of over 48KHz sample rate with Paris.
DeejI take it this would work?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mytek-StudioClock-192-CX-Clock-Genera tor_W0QQitemZ320130097707QQihZ011QQcategoryZ41784QQrdZ1QQssP ageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem
Seems like a good deal, even though it's 192...
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
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> I'm a bit concerned when using a clock that the MEC
>> sample lite goes to 48k, but I guess I could live with it. Would an
>> external clock make a significant difference on a 1-MEC system or would
a
>> DAConverter help clear up any muddyness or harshness more?
>
>
>The DAC-1 will give you clearer picture of your mix. It is far superior
to
>the Paris DAC, even if Paris is clocked to an extern
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| Re: OT: Gas hostages [message #85233 is a reply to message #85222] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 07:32 |
Dedric Terry
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e employer is basically the workers sponsor at this point
and
>>> is
>>>> reaponsible for him/her.
>>>> Employees must purchase vehicle insurance.
>>>> Worker receives a Worker-guest card that entitles them to basic
>>>> (rudimentary) medical services under employers medical insurance policy.
>>>> worker can buy supplemental healthcare which will be only good as long
as
>>>> his/her status is legimate.
>>>> Worker can change jobs just like any American citizen.
>>>> Worker-guest card is forfeit upon leaving job and new "ttransitional
"
>>>> card
>>>> is issued - good for two weeks.
>>>> Workers can only receive social services with proof of
>>>> employment/worker-guest card or temporary "unexpired" transitional card.
>>>> If card expires, they are considered illegal and are subject to immediate
>>>> deportation and denial of all social services.
>>>> Employers receive a $20,000 fine *per instance* if caught hiring illegal
>>>> workers
>>>> No more sanctuary cities. Law enforcement is *required* to randomly
check
>>>> national ID/worker cards
>>>> Profiling allowed (I hate this, but it's necessary)
>>>> If someone doesn't have valid National ID or workers card, they are
>>>> detained
>>>> until they can show proof. No proof, you go back to country of origin.
>>>> Worker gets busted for serious misdemeanor.......goes home - can reapply
>>> for
>>>> worker permit within 1 year. Felony, goes to jail, then home.- never
come
>>>> back.
>>>> Rescind the law that allows children born of non-citizens in this country
>>> to
>>>> be automatic citizens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com <mailto:Meta@Dimensional.com>> wrote
>>> in
>>>>>> message news:467591fd@linux...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Aaron, do you have any sources of data for the actual cost of
>>>>>> providing
>>>>>> > health care to illegal aliens? What numbers are you using?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Do you know the amount of taxes paid by illegal aliens?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Do you know the amount of money saved in the economy, overall,
by
>>> the
>>>>>> > low wages they are paid?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm just curious. It would be interesting to know any stats you
are
>>>>>> using.
>>>>>> This'll get you started. And they're old numbers for the most part,
>>>>>> could be an improvement in the situation but I seriously doubt it.
I've
>>>>>> seen growth in my area for sure and I'd expect the same for this region
>>>>>> of states all the way to Cali.
>>>>>> This study is one of the first to estimate the total impact of illegal
>>>>>> immigration on the federal budget. Most previous studies have focused
>>> on
>>>>>> the state and local level and have examined only costs or tax payments,
>>>>>> but not both. Based on Census Bureau data, this study finds that,
when
>>>>>> all taxes paid (direct and indirect) and all costs are considered,
>>>>>> illegal households created a net fiscal deficit at the federal level
>>> of
>>>>>> more than $10 billion in 2002. We also estimate that, if there was
an
>>>>>> amnesty for illegal aliens, the net fiscal deficit would grow to nearly
>>>>>> $29 billion.
>>>>>> http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
>>>>>> Washington Post found about the same thing
>>>>>> "Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion
>>> in
>>>>>> costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion
in
>>>>>> taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per
>>>>>> illegal household," said Steven A. Camarota, author of the study.
>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33783-2004Aug 25.html
>>>>>> Here's a 2004 finding
>>>>>> http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/12/06/news/top_stories/ 19_56_5812_5_04.txt
>>>>>> SBI ain't cuttin it in this 2006 study.
>>>>>> http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back406.html
>>>>>> Deportation doesn't seem such a great idea
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 27 July 2005
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New Study: Deporting Illegal Aliens Will Cost $41 Billion A
>>>>>> Year.Do They Take American Express??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> < http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2005/07/27/new-study-deportin g-illegal-aliens-will-cost-41-billion-a-year-do-they-take-am erican-express/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Bryanna Bevens
>>>>>> <http://blog.vdare.com/archives/author/bryanna-bevens/>]
>>>>>> @ 11:24 am [Email author <mailto:bbevens@vdareedit.com?subject=New
>>>>>> Study:
>>>>>&
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| Re: OT: Gas hostages [message #85237 is a reply to message #85233] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 09:16 |
TCB
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gt; to disagree about that one. I've been in and out of hospitals the
last
>>>>>> year with both a sick 5 yr old boy and a girlfriend post brain tumor.
>>>>>> She's a tough survivor. I'm telling you what I'm seeing bro, first
>>>>>> hand.
>>>>>> I could relate some horror stories.
>>>>>> Sorry for the delayed response.... Father's Day, priorities and such
>>> :)
>>>>>> > Cheers,
>>>>>> > -Jamie
>>>>>> > www.JamieKrutz.com <http://www.jamiekrutz.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers back atcha'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>> >> "LaMOnt " <jjdpro@ameritech.net <mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net>>
>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>> in message news:46755eae$1@linux...
>>>>>> >>> Aaron please read my last post. My question to those who think
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> >>> is:
>>>>>> >>> "Then, what is the cure"??
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I did read you last post, which prompted mine. Let me elaborate
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> >> don't see what I meant.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> the 'govt' way is to beat down the vendor to the lowest
>>>>>> denominator,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> >> hold the
>>>>>> >>> payment as long as you possibly can. Let's not even get into
the
>>>>>> >>> 'entitlement' problems or running away any decent health care
>>>>>> worker
>>>>>> >>> because
>>>>>> >>> of govt mandates.
>>>>>> >>> Does the current health system need work? Absolutely. Do we need
>>> the
>>>>>> fed
>>>>>> >>> gov't doing it? NO.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The cure. That's not easy, nor is it going to be fast or smooth.
>>> I'd
>>>>>> >> approach it as a layered answer, like almost all problems in life,
>>>>>> and see
>>>>>> >> what works. What works will depend on so many variables, like
>>>>>> region,
>>>>>> >> patient, nature of illness, how the illness was obtained,
>>>>>> cure/easing
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> >> symptoms, procedures involved, doctors, insurance, hospital,
>>>>>> etc....
>>>>>> >> Calculating for those variables will be a mountain, however I
think
>>>>>> the very
>>>>>> >> first thing we have to do is stop the leeching and free riders.
>>>>>> Illegals?
>>>>>> >> Sorry, you will not be admitted to the hospital because we're
tired
>>>>>> of you
>>>>>> >> sucking the life out of our economy. Welfare? You're likely to
be
>>> in
>>>>>> line
>>>>>> >> behind the guys that have prepaid through insurance or other
>>>>>> programs. Don't
>>>>>> >> like it? Get legal, get registered, get a job, start paying taxes
>>> and
>>>>>> >> insurance like the legal working population. Harsh? Yeah.
>>>>>> Necessary?
>>>>>> At this
>>>>>> >> point, yeah - think it is because where we're headed is a train
>>>>>> wreck
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> >> everyone and I can see the wheels coming off as we speak. At this
>>>>>> point
>>>>>> >> there is no gentle answer, there has been too much ripping off
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> >> many ways to fix it nicely. I pay taxes, I pay insurance and I
take
>>>>>> the best
>>>>>> >> care of my self as I possibly can. So, explain to me why should
I
>>>>>> have to
>>>>>> >> buy healthcare for someone who doesn't?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> And that is 'exactly' the problem with entitlement. Too many people
>>>>>> feel
>>>>>> >> entitled to sit on their asses and collect welfare and debt free
>>>>>> health care
>>>>>> >> as it is on the backs of those that work for a living. Gov't has
>>> got
>>>>>> a real
>>>>>> >> historical problem with handling that particular because
>>>>>> entitlement
>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>> >> dependant voters for party lines, particularly Democrats but not
>>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>> >> always. Corruption is corruption. I have a huge problem with
>>>>>> bribery
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> >> that. I've seen it in business practices and I've seen it in gov't
>>>>>> and I'm
>>>>>> >> sick of it. *Here, let me help you* becomes *now you need me to
>>>>>> survive so
>>>>>> >> you better do what I say or I'll cut you off*. You can't seriously
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >> that. Jesus saw it. Teach a man to fish.. ringing any bells?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> If we are waiting on big business to continue to foot the bill
for
>>>>>> >>> employer
>>>>>> >>> pid medical insurance, well, thoes days are coming to and drastic
>>>>>> end.
>>>>>> >>> Even
>>>>>> >>> with the employers like GM are not going to continue to give
their
>>>>>> >>> employee
>>>>>> >>> top notch medical care.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Nope, they're not going to continue it. Everyone is tired of being
>>>>>> bilked
>>>>>> >> for being responsible by those that aren't. The $100 aspirin?
That
>>> is
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> >> very likely to have come from greasy suit happy lawyers/clients
and
>>>>>> free
>>>>>> >> loaders.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> This is a cultural issure. Tehre are those in this country who
>>>>>> belive that
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| Re: OT: Gas hostages [message #85238 is a reply to message #85233] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 09:19 |
Jamie K
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>>>>> >>> great health care is not for all , but only to those who can
>>>>>> afford
>>>>>> it..
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> There are those that believe it should be given scot free to them
>>>>>> from my
>>>>>> >> hard work. Your point? This isn't cultural unless you count illegal
>>>>>> entry
>>>>>> >> into the country and laziness as a culture. Add welfare state
to
>>>>>> that,
>>>>>> >> though it's not a 100% as are not the other catagories.
>>>>>> Unfortunately
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >> don't have the resources to successfully divide these groups into
>>> the
>>>>>> >> trying/not trying sub groups with exception to the laziness group.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Now: other than the top 3 percent earners in this country, who
can
>>>>>> pay for
>>>>>> >>> a decent medical insurance plan (not top notched) today??? Not
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> >>> families
>>>>>> >>> can afford on average $600-1000 per month for health care..With
>>>>>> rising
>>>>>> >>> fuel
>>>>>> >>> cost, food, utilities...it's just not in the budget for mant
these
>>>>>> days..
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Where did those figures arive from? I'm not saying health care
'is'
>>>>>> >> affordable, but I would like to get some idea of how you came
to
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> >> numbers as an average.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> And, if you are one of fortunate millionairs, well, you are only
>>> one
>>>>>> >>> catstrophic
>>>>>> >>> illness away from seeing all of your fortune sucked away...That's
>>>>>> >>> horrible!!
>>>>>> >>> to work hard to acheive financial freedom, only to have it sucked
>>>>>> from you
>>>>>> >>> because you "aford it"... What happens when another loved one
has
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> >>> debilitating
>>>>>> >>> disorder ????
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Millionaire or not, we all face this divide. Being super rich
or
>>>>>> super broke
>>>>>> >> makes no difference here. At current system/rates, they'll get
your
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> >> for any serious long term illness either way. And old age is
>>>>>> considered a
>>>>>> >> long term illness these days, curable only by death. That sucks,
>>> but
>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>> >> reality we all better prepare for in the event we live into
>>>>>> retirement or
>>>>>> >> beyond.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> The goverment system won't be great, but if packaged as a 60-70
>>>>>> percent
>>>>>> >>> "supplement"
>>>>>> >>> to your employer or self paid medical plan, then all can have
>>>>>> dignified
>>>>>> >>> health
>>>>>> >>> coverage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> And who pays the other 30-40 percent on those that are here illegal
>>>>>> (how
>>>>>> >> would you collect on an illegal _anyway_ with the feds?), live
on
>>>>>> welfare or
>>>>>> >> don't have insurance/money?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Our employers, reflected back to the cost of their goods and what
>>>>>> they can
>>>>>> >> pay us for producing them. That's right.. right back where we
are
>>>>>> now. Those
>>>>>> >> that have will not have for long because those that don't will
take
>>>>>> it away
>>>>>> >> through gov't mandate and the law of economics. The average Joe
>>>>>> gets
>>>>>> screwed
>>>>>> >> again. We'll pay for the poor through taxes, then again through
the
>>>>>> health
>>>>>> >> care overages we'll have to provide post gov't supplement. Any
fool
>>>>>> can look
>>>>>> >> at social security (hah, what a misnomer) and see what will happen.
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> >> been paying my life on a fund that I'm likely to never collect
>>>>>> upon.
>>>>>> I'm not
>>>>>> >> willing to add another to that list. Entitlement is crap and it
>>>>>> doesn't work
>>>>>> >> for any length of time before becoming corruption.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Sorry man, I don't see this working. But it's a nice thought.
We've
>>>>>> got to
>>>>>> >> start dealing with our border and overpopulation problems because
>>> so
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> >> things are a result of this root issue.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> AA
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude
>>>>>> <mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> Exactly Deej. I can tell you right now first hand experience
that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> 'govt'
>>>>>> >>>> way is to beat down the vendor to the lowest denominator, then
>>> hold
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> payment as long as you possibly can. Let's not even get into
the
>>>>>> >>>> 'entitlement' problems or running away any decent health care
>>>>>> worker
>>>>>> >>>> because
>>>>>> >>>> of govt mandates.
>>>>>> >>>> Does the current health system need work? Absolutely. Do we
need
>>>>>> the fed
>>>>>> >>>> gov't doing it? NO.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> AA
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
>>>>>> wrote in message news:467556c0$1@linux...
>>>>>> >>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net <mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net>>
>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>> news:4674c045$1@linux...
>>>>>> >>>>>> The reason for the new film SICKO.. I really don't under stand
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> >>> who
>>>>>> >>>>>> say
>>>>>> >>>>>> they don;t want a national health care system.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> It's not until the current medical/Insurance system reams
you
>>> and
>>>>>> yours
>>>>>> >>>>>> then
>>>>>> >>>>>> do you 'see why it's needed'. But knoowwww The Gove will do
a
>>>>>> even wost
>>>>>> >>>>>> job.
>>>>>> >>>>>> That Bull-Shit!! At least, the bill will get paid.. Ok, I
can
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> >>>>>> someone
>>>>>> >>>>>> saying by who??
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> The reason that these doctors are not taking Medicare patients
>>> is
>>>>>> >>>>> because
>>>>>> >>>>> the government runs it in such a wonderful way.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>HI Neil,
If you didn't have the the Lucid hooked up and were just clocking the
Multiface from the Lavry or Mytek then maybe but I don't think you will
if the Cubase file is rendered in Cubase. If you ran it through
converters in a real time bounce or if you mixed the while project then
it mill probably be a little different sense those converters do have
some sound difference than the RME. You will have to do a whole lot of
comparison tests with different clocking scenarios. But I bet the
results will be so close as to be questionable as to whether a file is
already recorded and mixed rendered internal in Cubase will sound
different if using different clocks sources. I'm sure I'll be disagreed
with but sense it is just an opinion not a scientifically based
statement take it with a grain of salt.
Chris
Neil wrote:
> So, Chris...
>
> If I'm not going out of my D/A's to a tape deck like Dimitrios
> is doing, if I were to get let's say a Mytek, or perhaps even a
> Lavry Blue D/A set & locked the Multiface to the Lavry clock
> (which claim to be a killer jitter-eliminator) & then rendered
> my mix to disk in Cubase as normal, would I hear a difference
> between that mix & one that was rendered with the Multiface
> clocked either to itself or to my Lucid GenX6-96?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Neil wrote:
>>
>>> Hey man, are you SURE that the Mytek convertors sound better
>>> than the RME's?
>>>
>> The Mytek's converters sound excellent. They should sense they are 3
>> times the price of the Multiface/Fireface I/Os. To some people they will
>>
>
>
>> sound better than RME's. But sense Mytek make no affordable sound cards
>>
>
>
>> with analog I/O on them it is not correct to compare them the
>> Multiface/Fireface I/O. Mytek makes dedicated AD and DA converters only
>>
>
>
>> so the only comparison would be the ADI-8 DS, ADI-2 or ADI8-QS models.
>> The RME converters used on the used on the Fireface, Multiface and
>> HDSP9632 are some of the best you will get integrated onto a sound card.
>>
>
>
>> The Myteks should logically sound better than the Multiface and
>> Fireface. If they didn't I don't think Mytek would be in business..:)
>>
>>
>>> Not that I'm doubting your word, I'm just
>>> wondering if the fact that you're using a Fireface (Firewire
>>> buss) vs. a Multiface (PCI buss) makes a differece?
>>>
>>>
>> The Fireface 800 has slightly better converters than the Multiface. The
>>
>
>
>> Multiface has the same converters as the Fireface 400. There is not
>> sound difference being caused by one being Fire wire and one being PCI.
>>
>>
>>> I just don't see how a better convertor set than the Multiface
>>> can be had for less than some ungodly-high price point (perhaps
>>> I am ignorant, though, I will allow- - i haven't tried
>>> everything that's out there... i just know how good/how well
>>> these reproduce accurate audio).
>>>
>>>
>> It can't. Mytek makes nothing that is the same price wise and
>> functionality wish that comes close the value of these RME converters.
>> It wouldn't be fair to be comparing the price of a used or discontinued
>>
>
>
>> piece of Mytek gear. The closest product they make that can honestly be
>>
>
>
>> compared is the 8x192 with the fire wire option card but that sell for
>> $3900.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Talk to us, Dimi. Have you compared anything in the RME realm
>>> besides the Fireface to the Mytek?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>> Chris
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762OK, I'm looking into clocks using the SweetWater catalog.
Apogee Big Ben $1345
Lucid Genx192 $700
Kim sent from eBay
Mytek StudioClock 192-CX $690 states it's more robust and a better square
wave then Big Ben.
DJ sent
Apogee PSX-100 $3000
I'm gonna read up on all. Anyone have fav's.
Thanks all.HI DJ,
All we have are our ears.
Chris
DJ wrote:
> Dimitrios has an older Mytek AD/DA 24bit/48kHZ capable converter. I had it
> here briefly before I transshipped it to him. It is a work of art. These are
> built like a brick shithouse and were very expensive back when they were
> being manufactured. When I compared it to my Mytek Stereo96 AD and DA (at
> 44.1/48), I could hear basically no difference at all. Dimitrios likely has
> the system clocked to this box as well which wouldn't hurt anything. I did a
> little comparison to my RME converters (and I have also compared my Mytek
> AD/DA's) to both the Multiface and a couple of ADI8-DS units I have here. My
> entire system is clocked off the distributed signal of the Mytek AD
> converter and I don't really think the RME converters are majorly inferior
> sounding in comparison to the Mytek. There ares some differences but they
> are more along the lines of *differences* rather than super extreme
> improvements in detail and imaging. Maybe my ears just like certain
> converters or maybe the FF800 converters suck in comparison with the older
> Multiface converters, which seem to have a bit of a cult following. I have
> actually seen people in black hooded robes carrying torches and chanting
> while walking down the road outside my house with a Multiface on a small
> altar on the back of a donkey cart during full moons. I really sorta prefer
> the Multiface converters to the more expensive ADI8-DS converters. It's not
> like I'm going to ditch them, but there is a tiny difference that I think I
> probably hear, sometimes, maybe, if the wind is blowing in the right
> direction, the humidity levels are just right and I've had proper amounts of
> caffiene and sugar administered interveniously.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:467e7f16$1@linux...
>
>> Neil wrote:
>>
>>> Hey man, are you SURE that the Mytek convertors sound better
>>> than the RME's?
>>>
>> The Mytek's converters sound excellent. They should sense they are 3 times
>> the price of the Multiface/Fireface I/Os. To some people they will sound
>> better than RME's. But sense Mytek make no affordable sound cards with
>> analog I/O on them it is not correct to compare them the
>> Multiface/Fireface I/O. Mytek makes dedicated AD and DA converters only so
>> the only comparison would be the ADI-8 DS, ADI-2 or ADI8-QS models.
>> The RME converters used on the used on the Fireface, Multiface and
>> HDSP9632 are some of the best you will get integrated onto a sound card.
>> The Myteks should logically sound better than the Multiface and Fireface.
>> If they didn't I don't think Mytek would be in business..:)
>>
>>
>>> Not that I'm doubting your word, I'm just
>>> wondering if the fact that you're using a Fireface (Firewire
>>> buss) vs. a Multiface (PCI buss) makes a differece?
>>>
>>>
>> The Fireface 800 has slightly better converters than the Multiface. The
>> Multiface has the same converters as the Fireface 400. There is not sound
>> difference being caused by one being Fire wire and one being PCI.
>>
>>
>>> I just don't see how a better convertor set than the Multiface
>>> can be had for less than some ungodly-high price point (perhaps
>>> I am ignorant, though, I will allow- - i haven't tried
>>> everything tha
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| Re: Gas hostages [message #85241 is a reply to message #85210] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 10:40 |
duncan
Messages: 123
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. It was on the harmony-central link. Apogee Press Release dtd Jan
28,1999. List price $2995. Of course that was years ago and I'm sure the
price has fallen quite a bit on this item if it's even made anymore.
I think what I'd like for an end product is a simple but quality and
accurate clock with at least 2 outputs. One to the MEC and one to a DAC
which I also need to purchase. I can understand this arrangement. The
PSX-100 seems a bit complicated but something like this might be available
with less bells and whistles. A good clock with AD/DA routing also. Sounds
too good to be true. At least until I see the price tag.
But in a simple system I understand that I would send the output of the
clock to the MEC clock in. And then figure out how to clock Paris correctly
using an external source in the project window. I think I can figure this
out and create a default. I've got the 8 page MEC booklet.
Then I could either use the MEC clock output or the external clock's other
outputs to send to the DAC (probably the preferred method). That's it.
That's what I want.
Have a nice evening.
Wayne
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:467f24aa@linux...
> The PSX 100 is 3K? If I was gonna spend 3k it would be on a Mytek 8
> channel ADDA. I had no idea the PSX was even being made now, muchless
> going for $3k.
>
> If all you're looking for is a clock, buy a Lucid GenX-6 (not the 96k
> version.. You don't need 96k.
>
> Deej
>
> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:467f1e66@linux...
>> OK, I'm looking into clocks using the SweetWater catalog.
>> Apogee Big Ben $1345
>> Lucid Genx192 $700
>>
>> Kim sent from eBay
>> Mytek StudioClock 192-CX $690 states it's more robust and a better
>> square wave then Big Ben.
>>
>> DJ sent
>> Apogee PSX-100 $3000
>>
>> I'm gonna read up on all. Anyone have fav's.
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
>
> http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:3ifpxqrg ldse
glam rock relic.
AA
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:467ed62e$1@linux...
> Who's Brett Michaels?No, sadly they probably meant if you come here learn the language, give the
same share of taxation we all have to and add something positive to the
society and you've missed the point.
Seriously, I care not who comes from where as long as they offer something
to make the country greater for their families, themselves and those already
here. When I have freinds that pull their kids out of certain schools
because they received honors by _default_ of actually speaking English,
Houston we gotta big fat problem. you guys may not be geographically in a
place to have this happening in your town, but it's coming soon to ya at
this rate if we don't get a handle on it.
AA
"Lamont" <jjd@aol.com> wrote in message news:467ee788$1@linux...
>
> That's right. They did not mean Africans, asians or even the natives of
> this
> land..Sad really sad..
>
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>Hi jeff,
>>Sadly I think they only wanted it to read..
>>
>>"Give me your European tired, your European poor,
>>Your European huddled masses yearning to breathe free
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| Re: Gas hostages [message #85243 is a reply to message #85241] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 10:25 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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> Nah, that was so 20th century...
>>>
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:467f2d05$1@linux...
>
> The US goverment..
Is this the same US government that runs the same country that these people
want to immigrate to because it is so evil?Dj, Come one.. Chris is right. This whole bring me you tired..blah blah..
it seems..is only for Europeans..
Many many other people for around this glob would love to become american
citizens. But, because of politics, they (US Gov )try to keep a certain ethic
group numbers down..
Now, in the case of the mexicans , it's a know fact that even with immagration
reform, their numbers would drasticly create another political power base.
In this case, for now, they (mexican/hispanics) would vote democratic...
Even more important: The REal reason your president and other s want an open
boarder is because they know that we need to beuild up our armed forces.
Seeing that most americans (Whites, Blacks, Asians) are not volutaring to
enlist atthe numbers the Gove sees fit to maintain a vital fighting army..
Teedy Kennedy today just spoke on George Steponaplis show stating that very
thing...."The new bill states that in order to become a citizen a imagrant
must "first server in the armed" forces..Then, after they have serverd ,
they become citizens.
This is what they (US Gov) wanted from the start..TTo build up the armed
forces with the ultra poor.. Seeing that that the only ethic group who are
volutaring they services these days are your poor to middle poor whites..
You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in the
Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their sons
to war.. No different today..
I would not send my son(s) to war in Iraq. Would you?
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:467f2d05$1@linux...
>>
>> The US goverment..
>
>Is this the same US government that runs the same country that these people
>want to immigrate to because it is so evil?
>
>Aaron, are you saying that todays immigrants are not aading any value at all
??
Heck, most americans are not adding any value to days.. Truthe be told, most
don;pt even pay taxes ..
And, if they (immigrants) purchase good and services, are tehy not paying
taxes??
Language: The Ellis Island crew did'nt speak the laguage.. It took them awhile.
Oh yeah, they added Ganges, an the Mafia,organized crime.. Good citizens
from Italy..right..
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>No, sadly they probably meant if you come here learn the language, give
the
>same share of taxation we all have to and add something positive to the
>society and you've missed the point.
>Seriously, I care not who comes from where as long as they offer something
>to make the country greater for their families, themselves and those already
>here. When I have freinds that pull their kids out of certain schools
>because they received honors by _default_ of actually speaking English,
>Houston we gotta big fat problem. you guys may not be geographically in
a
>place to have this happening in your town, but it's coming soon to ya at
>this rate if we don't get a handle on it.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Lamont" <jjd@aol.com> wrote in message news:467ee788$1@linux...
>>
>> That's right. They did not mean Africans, asians or even the natives of
>> this
>> l
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| Re: OT: Gas hostages [message #85246 is a reply to message #85229] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 10:25 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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rich and connected all got out of vietnam and only
>>poor whites and blacks ended up there, is a lie.
>>
>>Read that book and get hip. It may open up a whole new world for you...
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>
>.....hmmm... ...I see what you're writing but can't hear it....
.....hmmmm....;-)
erlilo
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:467f2216@linux...
> HI DJ,
> All we have are our ears.
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Dimitrios has an older Mytek AD/DA 24bit/48kHZ capable converter. I had
>> it here briefly before I transshipped it to him. It is a work of art.
>> These are built like a brick shithouse and were very expensive back when
>> they were being manufactured. When I compared it to my Mytek Stereo96 AD
>> and DA (at 44.1/48), I could hear basically no difference at all.
>> Dimitrios likely has the system clocked to this box as well which
>> wouldn't hurt anything. I did a little comparison to my RME converters
>> (and I have also compared my Mytek AD/DA's) to both the Multiface and a
>> couple of ADI8-DS units I have here. My entire system is clocked off the
>> distributed signal of the Mytek AD converter and I don't really think the
>> RME converters are majorly inferior sounding in comparison to the Mytek.
>> There ares some differences but they are more along the lines of
>> *differences* rather than super extreme improvements in detail and
>> imaging. Maybe my ears just like certain converters or maybe the FF800
>> converters suck in comparison with the older Multiface converters, which
>> seem to have a bit of a cult following. I have actually seen people in
>> black hooded robes carrying torches and chanting while walking down the
>> road outside my house with a Multiface on a small altar on the back of a
>> donkey cart during full moons. I really sorta prefer the Multiface
>> converters to the more expensive ADI8-DS converters. It's not like I'm
>> going to ditch them, but there is a tiny difference that I think I
>> probably hear, sometimes, maybe, if the wind is blowing in the right
>> direction, the humidity levels are just right and I've had proper amounts
>> of caffiene and sugar administered interveniously.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:467e7f16$1@linux...
>>
>>> Neil wrote:
>>>
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| Re: OT: Gas hostages [message #85251 is a reply to message #85238] |
Fri, 25 May 2007 11:11 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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>>> The RME converters used on the used on the Fireface, Multiface and =
>>> HDSP9632 are some of the best you will get integrated onto a sound =
card.=20
>>> The Myteks should logically sound better than the Multiface and=20
>>> Fireface. If they didn't I don't think Mytek would be in =
business..:)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not that I'm doubting your word, I'm just
>>>> wondering if the fact that you're using a Fireface (Firewire
>>>> buss) vs. a Multiface (PCI buss) makes a differece?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The Fireface 800 has slightly better converters than the =
Multiface. The=20
>>> Multiface has the same converters as the Fireface 400. There is =
not=20
>>> sound difference being caused by one being Fire wire and one being =
PCI.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just don't see how a better convertor set than the Multiface
>>>> can be had for less than some ungodly-high price point (perhaps
>>>> I am ignorant, though, I will allow- - i haven't tried
>>>> everything that's out there... i just know how good/how well
>>>> these reproduce accurate audio).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It can't. Mytek makes nothing that is the same price wise and=20
>>> functionality wish that comes close the value of these RME =
converters.=20
>>> It wouldn't be fair to be comparing the price of a used or =
discontinued=20
>>> piece of Mytek gear. The closest product they make that can =
honestly be=20
>>> compared is the 8x192 with the fire wire option card but that sell =
for=20
>>> $3900.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Talk to us, Dimi. Have you compared anything in the RME realm
>>>> besides the Fireface to the Mytek?
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Chris
>>> --=20
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>> ADK
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>>
>
> --=20
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762=20
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message=20
<A =
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....I=20
see what you're writing but can't hear it....=20
<BR>....hmmmm....;-)<BR><BR>erlilo<BR><BR>"Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>> =
skrev i en=20
meddelelse <BR><A=20
href=3D"news:467f2216@linux">news:467f2216@linux</A>...<BR>> HI =
DJ,<BR>>=20
All we have are our ears.<BR>>=20
Chris<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> <BR>> DJ wrote:<BR>>> =
Dimitrios=20
has an older Mytek AD/DA 24bit/48kHZ capable converter. I had =
<BR>>> it=20
here briefly before I transshipped it to him. It is a work of art.=20
<BR>>> These are built like a brick shithouse and were very =
expensive=20
back when <BR>>> they were being manufactured. When I compared =
it to my=20
Mytek Stereo96 AD <BR>>> and DA (at 44.1/48), I could hear =
basically no difference at all. <BR>>> Dimitrios likely has the =
system=20
clocked to this box as well which <BR>>> wouldn't hurt anything. =
I did a=20
little comparison to my RME converters <BR>>> (and I have also =
compared=20
my Mytek AD/DA's) to both the Multiface and a <BR>>> couple of =
ADI8-DS=20
units I have here. My entire system is clocked off the <BR>>>=20
distributed signal of the Mytek AD converter and I don't really think =
the=20
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comparison to the=20
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along the=20
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improvements in=20
detail and <BR>>> imaging. Maybe my ears just like certain =
converters or=20
maybe the FF800 <BR>>> converters suck in comparison with the =
older=20
Multiface converters, which <BR>>> seem to have a bit of a cult=20
following. I have actually seen people in <BR>>> black hooded =
robes=20
carrying torches and chanting while walking down the <BR>>> road =
outside=20
my house with a Multiface on a small altar on the back of a =
<BR>>>=20
donkey cart during full moons. I really sorta prefer the =
Multiface=20
<BR>>> converters to the more expensive ADI8-DS converters. It's =
not=20
like I'm <BR>>> going to ditch them, but there is a tiny =
difference that=20
I think I <BR>>> probably hear, sometimes, maybe, if the wind is =
blowing=20
in the right <BR>>> direction, the humidity levels are just =
right and=20
I've had proper amounts <BR>>> of caffiene and sugar =
administered=20
interveniously.<BR>>><BR>>>=20
;o)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> "Chris Ludwig" <<A=20
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wrote in=20
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=
href=3D"news:467e7f16$1@linux">news:467e7f16$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B=
R>>>>=20
Neil wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>> Hey man, are you SURE =
that the=20
Mytek convertors sound better<BR>>>>> than the=20
RME's?<BR>>>>><BR>>>> The Mytek's converters =
sound=20
excellent. They should sense they are 3 <BR>>>> times the =
price of=20
the Multiface/Fireface I/Os. To some people they will <BR>>>> =
sound=20
better than RME's. But sense Mytek make no affordable sound cards=20
<BR>>>> with analog I/O on them it is not correct to compare =
them the=20
<BR>>>> Multiface/Fireface I/O. Mytek makes dedicated AD and =
DA=20
converters only <BR>>>> so the only comparison would be the =
ADI-8 DS,=20
ADI-2 or ADI8-QS models.<BR>>>> The RME converters used on =
the used=20
on the Fireface, Multiface and <BR>>>> HDSP9632 are some of =
the best=20
you will get integrated onto a sound card. <BR>>>> The Myteks =
should=20
logically sound better than the Multiface and <BR>>>> =
Fireface. If=20
they didn't I don't think Mytek would be in=20
business..:)<BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>>>> Not =
that I'm=20
doubting your word, I'm just<BR>>>>> wondering if the fact =
that=20
you're using a Fireface (Firewire<BR>>>>> buss) vs. a =
Multiface=20
(PCI buss) makes a=20
differece?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>> The =
Fireface 800 has slightly better converters than the Multiface. The=20
<BR>>>> Multiface has the same converters as the Fireface =
400. There=20
is not <BR>>>> sound difference being caused by one being =
Fire wire=20
and one being PCI.<BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>>>> =
I just=20
don't see how a better convertor set than the =
Multiface<BR>>>>>=20
can be had for less than some ungodly-high price point=20
(perhaps<BR>>>>> I am ignorant, though, I will allow- - i =
haven't=20
tried<BR>>>>> everything that's out there... i just know =
how=20
good/how well<BR>>>>> these reproduce accurate=20
audio).<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>> It =
can't.=20
Mytek makes nothing that is the same price wise and <BR>>>>=20
functionality wish that comes close the value of these RME converters. =
<BR>>>> It wouldn't be fair to be comparing the price of a =
used or=20
discontinued <BR>>>> piece of Mytek gear. The closest product =
they=20
make that can honestly be <BR>>>> compared is the 8x192 with =
the fire=20
wire option card but that sell for <BR>>>>=20
=
$3900.<BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>>><BR>>>>>=
;=20
Talk to us, Dimi. Have you compared anything in the RME=20
realm<BR>>>>> besides the Fireface to the=20
Mytek?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>=20
Neil<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>>=20
Chris<BR>>>> -- <BR>>>> Chris Ludwig<BR>>>> =
ADK<BR>>>> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
gt;<BR>>>>=20
<A href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com">www.adkproaudio.com</A> <<A=20
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href=3D"http://www.adkproaudio.com/">http://www.adkproaudio.com/</A>><=
BR>>>>=20
(859) 635-5762<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> <BR>><BR>> -- =
<BR>>=20
Chris Ludwig<BR>> ADK<BR>> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&=
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=
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ
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> nVidia GeForce have been great for me on XP. Matrox, not so much. I've
> used ATI as well, but they felt a little sluggish IMO - not a scietific
> eval, but that's how it worked on my rig(s).
>
> AA
>
>
> "Vadim Volchek" <visa2000bic@mail.ru> wrote in message
> news:467e193e@linux...
>> Helloy All!
>>
>> What the video cards are recomend for Paris Pro? (Win XP)
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>
>Hi Neil,
The difference beetween the Mytek's DA and RME ADI-PRO8 DA is night and day
for me.
The difference beetween AD is not big.
The Mytek has almost totally lack of distortion across bandwith while rme
has much there and I am sure itr is because of jitter.
The mytek's device has jitter elimination circuitry on botha analog and digital
in/out.
Also there is a punch and stereo widening.
What else should I detect to say that mytek are superior.
I am not fond of the rme stuff as much as the nhype around them.
I find their sound totally unpunched ,some might say warm, a smiley curve
meaning there is not great mid clarity and the stereo image is just ok until
you hear a Mytek or lavry DA !
The RME's ad section clocked by mytek sounds nice.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Hey man, are you SURE that the Mytek convertors sound better
>than the RME's? Not that I'm doubting your word, I'm just
>wondering if the fact that you're using a Fireface (Firewire
>buss) vs. a Multiface (PCI buss) makes a differece?
>
>I just don't see how a better convertor set than the Multiface
>can be had for less than some ungodly-high price point (perhaps
>I am ignorant, though, I will allow- - i haven't tried
>everything that's out there... i just know how good/how well
>these reproduce accurate audio).
>
>Talk to us, Dimi. Have you compared anything in the RME realm
>besides the Fireface to the Mytek?
>
>NeilThis was my first exposure to impulse responses after playing with the other
type reverbs for months. Are you guys finding that they blow the others
away?
I am very impressed with the "real" room sound I'm getting, but I guess that's
the whole point. They just sound so much better to me and I'm wondering
if you guys concur. oh, wikipedia has some great links too I found.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I think mine are from here:
>
> http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?option=com_remository& ;Itemid=29
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>Anyone know some good sites for impulses to use in SIR ? I am really impressed
>>with the PCM90 drum impulses on a snare with some PSP Vintage Warmer on
>it.
>> Sweet
>Real room IRs are great. Look for the Round Rooms - I really liked
them.. Also I compared the IRs of the TC M5000 with my old M5000 and
they were essentially the same except for a slight graininess in the IR.
John wrote:
> This was my first exposure to impulse responses after playing with the other
> type reverbs for months. Are you guys finding that they blow the others
> away?
>
> I am very impressed with the "real" room sound I'm getting, but I guess that's
> the whole point. They just sound so much better to me and I'm wondering
> if you guys concur. oh, wikipedia has some great links too I found.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think mine are from here:
>>
>> http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?option=com_remository& ;Itemid=29
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> Anyone know some good sites for impulses to use in SIR ? I am really impressed
>>> with the PCM90 drum impulses on a snare with some PSP Vintage Warmer on
>> it.
>>> Sweet
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote in message news:467f4a21$1@linux...
>
> Dj, Come one.. Chris is right. This whole bring me you tired..blah blah..
> it seems..is only for Europeans..
>
I disagree. I believe it is meant for those who are willing to abide by the
laws of this country, accept the economic model of this country, learn the
common language of this country so that they can understand the laws and
thrive within the economic model.
> Many many other people for around this glob would love to become american
> citizens. But, because of politics, they (US Gov )try to keep a certain
> ethic
> group numbers down..
No, I think it is because it has become necessary to accept people now who
can and are willing to assimilate here rather than to insulate themselves
into a culturally insular ghetto and try to recreate their old life and
soci
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Fri, 25 May 2007 11:22 |
chuck duffy
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nics) would vote democratic...
>
Except for the ones who have accepted the economic opportunities and thrived
and who mostly vote along conservative lines. As the last of the
conservatives are purged from the Democratic party, these folks have nowhere
to go but the Repulican party. Same thing can be said for other ethnic
groups, including successful, upwardly mobile blacks who have taken off the
victim suit that Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders" along with
the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted the
ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign on
"the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted Kennedy
and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's.
> Even more important: The REal reason your president and other s want an
> open
> boarder is because they know that we need to beuild up our armed forces.
> Seeing that most americans (Whites, Blacks, Asians) are not volutaring to
> enlist atthe numbers the Gove sees fit to maintain a vital fighting army..
>
> Teedy Kennedy today just spoke on George Steponaplis show stating that
> very
> thing...."The new bill states that in order to become a citizen a imagrant
> must "first server in the armed" forces..Then, after they have serverd ,
> they become citizens.
This has always been the fast track to citizenship, not just recently.
Another hing you're missing is that we are not forcing anyone o do anything.
there are requirements for for becoming a citizen here. The first one should
be to obey the laws and not cross the border illegally.
>
> This is what they (US Gov) wanted from the start..TTo build up the armed
> forces with the ultra poor.. Seeing that that the only ethic group who are
> volutaring they services these days are your poor to middle poor whites..
> You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in the
> Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
> sons
> to war.. No different today..
> I would not send my son(s) to war in Iraq. Would you?
These "poor kids" have a pretty high level of education for the most part
LaMont.. I would not send my son anywhere. If he were of age, I would allow
him to make his own decisions.
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:467f2d05$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The US goverment..
>>
>>Is this the same US government that runs the same country that these
>>people
>
>>want to immigrate to because it is so evil?
>>
>>
>I had installed all of the skunkworks plugs - I removed all but the
eventiter and the mods.
I really love the plugs and as time permits, I'll start adding them in again
until I isolate which one was causing the problem on my computer.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:467ea667@linux...
>I hadn't seen that reaction yet, but I think some of the skunkworks plugs
>were deemed too buggy
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Fri, 25 May 2007 12:18 |
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Messages: 123
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and it was suggested to not install them. Which of
>them did you have installed?
>
> AA
>
>
> "Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:467e51e8@linux...
>>I sure appreciate all the helpful tips posted here and wanted to share
>>that I found the solution to a problem when I migrated Paris to Windows XP
>>Pro.
>>
>> The problem was that the EDS compressors were not working for the channel
>> inserts. It was frustrating since I really like using them and all the
>> other insert efx were working.
>>
>> I'm a big fan of Chuck's plugins and had installed all of them.
>> Unfortunately, on my box, there was a conflict. When I removed all but
>> the basic EDS effects dlls from the system32 folder the compressors
>> worked again.
>>
>> I still have the eventiter and modulation efx working so that good since
>> I like them alot too.
>>
>> Anyways, since I had posted in the midst of my confusion, thought I post
>> the solution too.
>>
>
>FreakQ is the one that seemed to cause the most issues I believe, and it
seemed like there was a little 3 pack that had something in it that created
issues, name escapes me at the moment. Define "all" of them that you
installed and I can likely pick the one out.
AA
"Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:467fb883$1@linux...
>I had installed all of the skunkworks plugs - I removed all but the
>eventiter and the mods.
>
> I really love the plugs and as time permits, I'll start adding them in
> again until I isolate which one was causing the problem on my computer.
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:467ea667@linux...
>>I hadn't seen that reaction yet, but I think some of the skunkworks plugs
>>were deemed too buggy and it was suggested to not install them. Which of
>>them did you have installed?
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:467e51e8@linux...
>>>I sure appreciate all the helpful tips posted here and wanted to share
>>>that I found the solution to a problem when I migrated Paris to Windows
>>>XP Pro.
>>>
>>> The problem was that the EDS compressors were not working for the
>>> channel inserts. It was frustrating since I really like using them and
>>> all the other insert efx were working.
>>>
>>> I'm a big fan of Chuck's plugins and had installed all of them.
>>> Unfortunately, on my box, there was a conflict. When I removed all but
>>> the basic EDS effects dlls from the system32 folder the compressors
>>> worked again.
>>>
>>> I still have the eventiter and modulation efx working so that good since
>>> I like them alot too.
>>>
>>> Anyways, since I had posted in the midst of my confusion, thought I post
>>> the solution too.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:467f4bac$1@linux...
>
> Aaron, are you saying that todays immigrants are not aading any value at
> all
> ??
The ones that cross illegal and have to hide out from the gov't, can drive
drunk KILL someone and walk away from it because the local/state law
enforcement can't touch them since they're an INS problem, and INS can't get
to them because there aren't enough of them (we've come up from 2 to 7 in
this state.. the WHOLE state...)? Buddy if that's your idea of value you
better get a new set of morals.
BTW, stop trying to put words in my mouth. Read back to me where I wrote
that all immigrants are not bringing value.
>
> Heck, most americans are not adding any value to days.. Truthe be told,
> most
> don;pt even pay taxes ..
That's crap and if you really and truly believe it you've surrounded
yourself with criminals and need to evaluate your placement in life.
>
> And, if they (immigrants) purchase good and services, are tehy not paying
> taxes??
Ok, here we go with the "READ THE WORDS I WROTE" part of this again. Pay the
same share of taxation that we all have to . So, if they aren't paying
yearly federal taxes because they can't *exist* here legally.. how are they
doing that LaMont?
What part of that was not clear to you?
>
> Language: The Ellis Island crew did'nt speak the laguage.. It took them
> awhile.
> Oh yeah, they added Ganges, an the Mafia,organized crime.. Good citizens
> from Italy..right..
You forgot the mexican gangs, the chinese gangs, etc.... So what's that got
to do with it? Oh yeah, it's part of the immigration process to actually
speak the native tongue. Oh, wait. I don't see what that has to do with
still. Not speaking the language = mafia. Uh huh. Yeah. Maybe you better
clarify that. Or perhaps you should close your mouth before you piss off the
Italian Americans, cause you know they might just send Guido the Brick after
you. Or Lenny the Punch. M
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Fri, 25 May 2007 11:30 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
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r />
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:467ea667@linux...
>>>I hadn't seen that reaction yet, but I think some of the skunkworks plugs
>>>were deemed too buggy and it was suggested to not install them. Which
of
>>>them did you have installed?
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:467e51e8@linux...
>>>>I sure appreciate all the helpful tips posted here and wanted to share
>>>>that I found the solution to a problem when I migrated Paris to Windows
>>>>XP Pro.
>>>>
>>>> The problem was that the EDS compressors were not working for the
>>>> channel inserts. It was frustrating since I really like using them and
>>>> all the other insert efx were working.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a big fan of Chuck's plugins and had installed all of them.
>>>> Unfortunately, on my box, there was a conflict. When I removed all but
>>>> the basic EDS effects dlls from the system32 folder the compressors
>>>> worked again.
>>>>
>>>> I still have the eventiter and modulation efx working so that good since
>>>> I like them alot too.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, since I had posted in the midst of my confusion, thought I
post
>>>> the solution too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>La Mont!!!....Oliver Stone is now the national historian?????!!!!!
ROTFLMAO!!!!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote in message news:467f6821$1@linux...
>
> No, that's bull-shitt..!!! You don;t wha you're talking about..
> Please..Did you see Oliver Stone's movie??
>
> I peersonally know of many of my relatives( African Americans) poor who
> got
> drafted and there where numerous whites sending their sons to college to
> avoid the draft , and send to canada..
> That's truth..
>
> So, you can keep you most educated BS facts..!!
> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>
>>>You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in the
>>>Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>>sons
>>>to war.. No different today..
>>
>>
>>One problem, it's bullshit.
>>
>>http://www.stolenvalor.com/
>>
>>Read it and discover that the vietnam soldier was the most highly educated
>>group ever to serve. They have had the highest success in life, the
>>fewest
>>mental problems, and the lowest drug addiction of any veterans in the
>>20th century.
>>
>>The idea that the rich and connected all got out of vietnam and only
>>poor whites and blacks ended up there, is a lie.
>>
>>Read that book and get hip. It may open up a whole new world for you...
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>Sorry I didn't respond to this earlier. I've been _very_ busy chasing girls
>and playing golf.
Man I wish I was this busy...
I guess I'm surprised that the converters would make that much of a diference
that they would be used as an "effect"...
D your saying that they open things up enough to use them this way?
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Sorry I didn't respond to this earlier. I've been _very_ busy chasing girls
>and playing golf.
>
>I think we agree more than we don't here. But what we're talking about then
>is recoding from source A to destination B and using the Mytek as an effect.
>Which I think is insane but, yes, it's possible. Passing the sound out the
>Mytek and then tracking it back via the Mytek seems more insane. But we're
>talking about using a converter as an effect, and I guess its come to this.
>
>
>TCB
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>But you can't _record_ that.
>>
>>You can if you go out of the Mytek (or whatever's) analog outs
>>to tape or another digital machine's analog in's... if that 2nd
>>machine is clocked to the Mytek (or whatever's) clock, then it
>>could preceiveably result in a higher-quality 2-track file.
>>
>>>Put another way, if Dimitrios fed the SPDIF of
>>>an RME Mutliface (BTW - running down RME gear on sonics is pretty ballsy
>>>in my opinion. Maybe not the best in the world, but certainly not the
worst)
>>
>>Oh, I'm not running down the RME stuff... I LOVE my Multifaces
>>(Multifascia?). Are there better convertors? Apparently...
>>though I don't know if a Mytek or Benchmark are among those.
>>
>>>and ran it through Deej's Benchmark it would sound like the Benchmark.
>So
>>>what Dimitrios is hearing is the converter. A perfect DA -> AD loop, with
>>>infinite sample rate and word length, would create exactly the exact same
>>>file as the original. So why do it?
>>
>>To improve upon a convertor that may have a more jittery clock?
>>I guess if he's going out of an RME's analog outs to 2-track
>>tape, and he's hearing a difference with the Mytek's output,
>>then that difference would be translated to tape.
>>
>>>Clock jitter? You said yourself jitter
>>>is a record/playback issue. The
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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C7B74C.505BF5F0--DC, it's a know fact that the Top 3percent earners pay little to any taxes
awith Dual citizenships in other countries to avoid paying taxes.. That's
knowing how to play the game legally.
Why are we not going after these types? Maybe it's because we all aspire
to become rich AND avoid paying taxes?? That's the American Dream....
Personally, I have avery good accountant (Wife) and we do just fine with
paying no more than we Legally have to in taxes..
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Loopholes..???Write offs.???
>
>Tell me more about these!! We use all of them that we are legally
>able to use and still pay about 30% of our income in taxes.
>
>Don't you?
>
>DC
>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Heck, most americans are not adding any value to days.. Truthe be told,
>>>most
>>>>don;pt even pay taxes ..
>>>
>>>Nonsense. Everyone I know pays about 30% of their income in taxes, not
>>>counting sales tax.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>
>Thanks Kim.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:467f1450$1@linux...
>
>
> I take it this would work?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mytek-StudioClock-192-CX-Clock-Genera tor_W0QQitemZ320130097707QQihZ011QQcategoryZ41784QQrdZ1QQssP ageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem
>
> Seems like a good deal, even though it's 192...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm a bit concerned when using a clock that the MEC
>>> sample lite goes to 48k, but I guess I could live with it. Would an
>>> external clock make a significant difference on a 1-MEC system or would
> a
>>> DAConverter help clear up any muddyness or harshness more?
>>
>>
>>The DAC-1 will give you clearer picture of your mix. It is far superior
> to
>>the Paris DAC, even if Paris is clocked to an external source. The
>>external
>
>>clock will improve the A/D and D/A resolution of your entire system,
>>including the D/A that you use to monitor you mix. This D/A converter
>>still
>
>>will not achieve the level of resolution of a Benchmark DAC-1, Mytek
>>Stereo
>
>>D/A, Lavry, etc, but it will definitely help. What I would look for is
>>something like an old Apogee PSX 100
>>
>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM99/Apogee/PSX-100. html
>>
>>..........or an older Mytek Stereo AD/DA unit (I forget that they are
>>named,
>
>>but Dimitrios would know.he has one) and David Seymour at Mytek might be
>
>>able to help you find one..
>>
>>These units have a clock that you can use to clock Paris externally and
> you
>>will get a superior A/D converter for critical tracking and a superior D/A
>
>>converter for monitoring, all in the same box.
>>
>>You don't need anything capable of over 48KHz sample rate with Paris.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>Great tip. Thanks. Anyone know how to convert mac impulses to pc interleaved
waves? Specifically these:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fokkie/IR.htm#Schellingwoude
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Real room IRs are great. Look for the Round Rooms - I really liked
>them.. Also I compared the IRs of the TC M5000 with my old M5000 and
>they were essentially the same except for a slight graininess in the IR.
>
>John wrote:
>> This was my first exposure to impulse responses after playing with the
other
>> type reverbs for months. Are you guys finding that they blow the others
>> away?
>>
>> I am very impressed with the "real" room sound I'm getting, but I guess
that's
>> the whole point. They just sound so much better to me and I'm wondering
>> if you guys concur. oh, wikipedia has some great links too I found.
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think mine are from here:
>>>
>>> http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?option=com_remository& ;Itemid=29
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> Anyone know some good sites for impulses to use in SIR ? I am really
impressed
>>>> with the PCM90 drum impulses on a snare with some PSP Vintage Warmer
on
>>> it.
>>>> Sweet
>>I keep hearing about this "SIR"-- How do you use him/it/them with Paris on
a Mac? Do you need Altivec or some other program?
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Great tip. Thanks. Anyone know how to convert mac impulses to pc interleaved
>waves? Specifically these:
>
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~fokkie/IR.htm#Schellingwoude
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>Real room IRs are great. Look for the Round Rooms - I really liked
>>them.. Also I compared the IRs of the TC M5000 with my old M5000 and
>>they were essentially the same except for a slight graininess in the IR.
>>
>>John wrote:
>>> This was my first exposure to impulse responses after playing with the
>other
>>> type reverbs for months. Are you guys finding that they blow the others
>>> away?
>>>
>>> I am very impressed with the "real" room sound I'm getting, but I guess
>that's
>>> the whole point. They just sound so much better to me and I'm wondering
>>> if you guys concur. oh, wikipedia has some great links too I found.
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think mine are from here:
>>>>
>>>> http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?option=com_remository& ;Itemid=29
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>> Anyone know some good sites for impulses to use in SIR ? I am really
>impressed
>>>>> with the PCM90 drum impulses on a snare with some PSP Vintage Warmer
>on
>>>> it.
>>>>> Sweet
>>>
>SIR appears to be windows only vst
http://www.knufinke.de/sir/No..I was simply simplifing the facts for you(in a movie).. Your links are
nothing more than a few opinions on the events that went on @ Vietnam..
I have many many eye withnesss who tell of a different story..
Bottom line: The Bush's , Clinton's weasled their way out the Vietnam war.
Same as today.. Some ofdthevery same folks who are for this so called war
in Iraq, are the very same ones who: 1) Would not voluntare themselves
2) would not send their own kids..
Your Proseident and others want themexicans in the US because : 1) Need to
build the armed forces..being that most whites and Blacks are not volutaring
..
Then there's big business who wants the cheap labor.. If we study our past,
this is One of the recipes that prompted the Civil war.. With the North want
to abolish Slavery to get the cheap labor from the south's Plantations..
Are we heading for another civil war?? who knows? But, both sides of the
immigration debate is just as passionate players decing the the Civil War...
Caught in the middle as always is the poor and so- called middle class ..
Just like the poor southern whites hated the Slaves because they were (given
task) to farm, share-crop, and run estates...While many southern whites struggled..
Same as today..
That's the hypocrisy of it all..
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>
>>No, that's bull-shitt..!!! You don;t wha you're talking about..
>>Please..Did you see Oliver Stone's movie??
>
>Do you really look to the movies for your history?
>
>Amazing...
>
>
>>I peersonally know of many of my relatives( African Americans) poor who
>got
>>drafted and there where numerous whites sending their sons to college to
>>avoid the draft , and send to canada..
>>That's truth..
>>
>>So, you can keep you most educated BS facts..!!
>
>When you want to learn what really happened, the facts are
>available. Please don't quote Oliver Stone movies for your
>support when the actual history is readily available,
>
>DC
>
>
>
>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in
>the
>>>>Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>>>sons
>>>>to war.. No different today..
>>>
>>>
>>>One problem, it's bullshit.
>>>
>>>http://www.stolenvalor.com/
>>>
>>>Read it and discover that the vietnam soldier was the most highly educated
>>>group ever to serve. They have had the highest success in life, the fewest
>>>mental problems, and the lowest drug addiction of any veterans in the
>>>20th century.
>>>
>>>The idea that the rich and connected all got out of vietnam and only
>>>poor whites and blacks ended up there, is a lie.
>>>
>>>Read that book and get hip. It may open up a whole new world for you...
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>
>You what DJ, Iasked my uncles who were in Namm , and they stated that the
movie was really close ..Only , that the movie did not go as deep ..
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>La Mont!!!....Oliver Stone is now the national historian?????!!!!!
>
>ROTFLMAO!!!!
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote in message news:467f6821$1@linux...
>>
>> No, that's bull-shitt..!!! You don;t wha you're talking about..
>> Please..Did you see Oliver Stone's movie??
>>
>> I peersonally know of many of my relatives( African Americans) poor who
>> got
>> drafted and there where numerous whites sending their sons to college
to
>> avoid the draft , and send to canada..
>> That's truth..
>>
>> So, you can keep you most educated BS facts..!!
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in
the
>>>>Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>>>sons
>>>>to war.. No different today..
>>>
>>>
>>>One problem, it's bullshit.
>>>
>>>http://www.stolenvalor.com/
>>>
>>>Read it and discover that the vietnam soldier was the most highly educated
>>>group ever to serve. They have had the highest success in life, the
>>>fewest
>>>mental problems, and the lowest drug addiction of any veterans in the
>>>20th century.
>>>
>>>The idea that the rich and connected all got out of vietnam and only
>>>poor whites and blacks ended up there, is a lie.
>>>
>>>Read that book and get hip. It may open up a whole new world for you...
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I think PC Freebies was the problem - although right now just for
troubleshooting, I also removed FreakQ, I did previously have that running
with no problem.
"PaulN" <pn@nospam.com> wrote in message news:467fcd01$1@linux...
>
> My experience is that "PC Freebies" is the culpret. I had all kinds of
> weirdness
> going on until I uninstalled them.
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>FreakQ is the one that seemed to cause the most issues I believe, and it
>
>>seemed like there was a little 3 pack that had something in it that
>>created
>
>>issues, name escapes me at the moment. Define "all" of them that you
>>installed and I can likely pick the one out.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:467fb883$1@linux...
>>>I had installed all of the skunkworks plugs - I removed all but the
>>>eventiter and the mods.
>>>
>>> I really love the plugs and as time permits, I'll start adding them in
>
>>> again until I isolate which one was causing the problem on my computer.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:467ea667@linux...
>>>>I hadn't seen that reaction yet, but I think some of the skunkworks
>>>>plugs
>
>>>>were deemed too buggy and it was suggested to not install them. Which
> of
>>>>them did you have installed?
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark" <sharonaloveslife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:467e51e8@linux...
>>>>>I sure appreciate all the helpful tips posted here and wanted to share
>
>>>>>that I found the solution to a problem when I migrated Paris to Windows
>
>>>>>XP Pro.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem was that the EDS compressors were not working for the
>>>>> channel inserts. It was frustrating since I really like using them and
>
>>>>> all the other insert efx were working.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a big fan of Chuck's plugins and had installed all of them.
>>>>> Unfortunately, on my box, there was a conflict. When I removed all but
>
>>>>> the basic EDS effects dlls from the system32 folder the compressors
>
>>>>> worked again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have the eventiter and modulation efx working so that good
>>>>> since
>
>>>>> I like them alot too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyways, since I had posted in the midst of my confusion, thought I
> post
>>>>> the solution too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>How is autotune 5 working with paris on win xp? I had version 3 but
considering the upgrade.
Does 5 play well with Paris? I'm not jazzed about the iLok idea but.... does
it seems to work ok?
Thanks!DJ,
I would not expect you or many other whites to understand the plight of the
Black america.. You stated" Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders"
along with
the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted the
ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign
on
"the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted Kennedy
and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's."
That system 'welfare' bythe way still has many more whites than blacks on
payroll..
Due to the in-herited racism that's plagued this country , blacks needed
help..
Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are what
you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
type-smile) and make a really good living..
I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for Blacks
since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King Jr
if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people really
do ned a helping hand.
Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in a
White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the local
Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that things
were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not after
the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like after
the Civil war.. Why??
Is there still racism in America??
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote in message news:467f4a21$1@linux...
>>
>> Dj, Come one.. Chris is right. This whole bring me you tired..blah blah..
>> it seems..is only for Europeans..
>>
>I disagree. I believe it is meant for those who are willing to abide by
the
>laws of this country, accept the economic model of this country, learn the
>common language of this country so that they can understand the laws and
>thrive within the economic model.
>
>> Many many other people for around this glob would love to become american
>> citizens. But, because of politics, they (US Gov )try to keep a certain
>> ethic
>> group numbers down..
>
>No, I think it is because it has become necessary to accept people now who
>can and are willing to assimilate here rather than to insulate themselves
>into a culturally insular ghetto and try to recreate their old life and
>society here in a new country. It's a normal thing to do at first, but
>nowadays, there is less emphqasis on becoming "American" and more emphasis
>on taking what America has to offer while refusing to honor it's existing
>laws.
>>
>> Now, in the case of the mexicans , it's a know fact that even with
>> immagration
>> reform, their numbers would drasticly create another political power base.
>> In this case, for now, they (mexican/hispanics) would vote democratic...
>>
>Except for the ones who have accepted the economic opportunities and thrived
>and who mostly vote along conservative lines. As the last of the
>conservatives are purged from the Democratic party, these folks have nowhere
>to go but the Repulican party. Same thing can be said for other ethnic
>groups, including successful, upwardly mobile blacks who have taken off
the
>victim suit that Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders" along with
>the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted the
>ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign
on
>"the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted Kennedy
>and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's.
>
>> Even more important: The REal reason your president and other s want an
>> open
>> boarder is because they know that we need to beuild up our armed forces.
>> Seeing that most americans (Whites, Blacks, Asians) are not volutaring
to
>> enlist atthe numbers the Gove sees fit to maintain a vital fighting army..
>>
>> Teedy Kennedy today just spoke on George Steponaplis show stating that
>> very
>> thing...."The new bill states that in order to become a citizen a imagrant
>> must "first server in the armed" forces..Then, after they have serverd
,
>> they become citizens.
>
>This has always been the fast track to citizenship, not just recently.
>Another hing you're missing is that we are not forcing anyone o do anything.
>there are requirements for for becoming a citizen here. The first one should
>be to obey the laws and not cross the border illegally.
>>
>> This is what they (US Gov) wanted from the start..TTo build up the armed
>> forces with the ultra poor.. Seeing that that the only ethic group who
are
>> volutaring they services these days are your poor to middle poor whites..
>> You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in
the
>> Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>> sons
>> to war.. No different today..
>> I would not send my son(s) to war in Iraq. Would you?
>
>These "poor kids" have a pretty high level of education for the most part
>LaMont.. I would not send my son anywhere. If he were of age, I would allow
>him to make his own decisions.
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| Re: OT: Guess I don't qualify [message #85368 is a reply to message #85359] |
Sat, 26 May 2007 11:20 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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>(859) 635-5762Aaron, that's crap on your part to believe that every single so-called illegal
immigrant is a criminal. That's crap.
Again, was every family or person who came to this country via (slave trade,
Ellis Island, or even indentured servitude) criminals? Could there have been
some on the criminal element who came to this country via Ellis Island? or
the slave trade? or indentured servitude?
By your definition, they are.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:467f4bac$1@linux...
>>
>> Aaron, are you saying that todays immigrants are not aading any value
at
>> all
>> ??
>
>The ones that cross illegal and have to hide out from the gov't, can drive
>drunk KILL someone and walk away from it because the local/state law
>enforcement can't touch them since they're an INS problem, and INS can't
get
>to them because there aren't enough of them (we've come up from 2 to 7 in
>this state.. the WHOLE state...)? Buddy if that's your idea of value you
>better get a new set of morals.
>BTW, stop trying to put words in my mouth. Read back to me where I wrote
>that all immigrants are not bringing value.
>
>>
>> Heck, most americans are not adding any value to days.. Truthe be told,
>> most
>> don;pt even pay taxes ..
>
>That's crap and if you really and truly believe it you've surrounded
>yourself with criminals and need to evaluate your placement in life.
>>
>> And, if they (immigrants) purchase good and services, are tehy not paying
>> taxes??
>
>Ok, here we go with the "READ THE WORDS I WROTE" part of this again. Pay
the
>same share of taxation that we all have to . So, if they aren't paying
>yearly federal taxes because they can't *exist* here legally.. how are they
>doing that LaMont?
>What part of that was not clear to you?
>
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| Re: OT: Guess I don't qualify [message #85372 is a reply to message #85368] |
Sat, 26 May 2007 12:44 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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