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| Re: Dear Obi Wan, I've gone over to the dark side.... [message #65342 is a reply to message #65341] |
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Deej [1]
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="mailto:dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au" target="_blank">dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
>news:443d39fb$1@linux...
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>> Since i put my 2 cents in about the pro tools mix bus, ive had nothing
but
>> grief from this group. If you install PT's rigs for a living, you must
be
>> completely aware of the superior sound quality. Its great Paris still
>works
>> for you, but theres alot better sounding stuff out there now. Im past
the
>> point of being PC about it all, its just the facts.
>>
>> Higher sample rates, amazing pluggins, motorised faders, routing
>sounds
>> wherever your creativity takes you, and most of all, product support and
>> ongoing development into the future.
>>
>> Ive had some emails from some of you trying to prove that Paris is
>better
>> than all this. If thats what you think, Im Ok with that, but its time
to
>> look at the ever impressive world of other Daws.
>>
>> I was being nice about this at first, but a handful of you made a
>simple
>> post of mine into a war.
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamthemoon.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>I dont use any analogue from the control 24. I have a lot of external
>pres,
>> >>and a central station. The control 24 is purely a controller for Pro
>tools
>> >>for me. I dont get what you are saying in regards to the I/O thing.
>> >
>> >
>> >It's got good mic pres in it, you should try them. Where it bites
>> >you is when you use the onboard control room monitoring circuits.
>> >They sound lousy and use up 192 I/O outputs. Also, every mic
>> >pre from the control 24 that you use will take up an analog input
>> >on the 192 just like an outboard mic pre because there is no A-D
>> >conversion in the Control 24.
>> >
>> >
>> >>Sounds
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| Re: Dear Obi Wan, I've gone over to the dark side.... [message #65343 is a reply to message #65342] |
Sat, 11 March 2006 13:01 |
Chris Latham
Messages: 109
Registered: June 2005
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>> >>like youve been on a few forums reading too much shit.
>> >
>> >Sounds like you jump to conclusions a lot. I am on no other DAW
>> >forums. I design and install studios and PT's systems.
>> >That's how I know these things.
>> >
>> >
>> >> paris is awesome, but i dont believe it could be anyones first choice
>> >>of Daw these days, seeing as its dead. I remained on Paris after the
>fall
>> >>down for all those years, purely because the expense of changing over
>was
>> >>enormous.
>> >
>> >
>> >Dave, no one minds that you left Paris. really. It still works for
>> >me, and I will use it as long as I can, then I will probably get into
>> >Sequoia.
>> >
>> >DC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Hmmmm.......OK then. I haven't followed all the posts.
"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:443d489e$1@linux...
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> Im not talking about the C24 monitor section. I addressed that in an
earlier
> post. Im talking bout the way i got nailed, just for liking the pt's mix
> bus more than the paris one.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Dave,
> >
> >I think the PT mix bus sounds just fine and I don't think that's what DC
> was
> >saying. There seems to be an issue with the circuitry in the monitoring
> >section of the Control 24 needing to be bypassed in order to hear the PT
> mix
> >bus. I just got off the phone with Ed Stasuim a few minutes ago. He's
got
> a
> >pretty respectable PT HD system at his studio here and he monitors
through
> a
> >passive volume control. His system sounds great BTW. It's the one that
> >really opened my eyes as to how far PT has come sonically. This guy has
> gold
> >and platinum records all over his studio walls so you're in good company
> ;o)
> >
> >Anyway, I'm hoping this isn't taken as some kind of slam and more like
> >offering useful info to help you achieve what you're looking for.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"Dave Parkin" <dave@blackbirdstudio.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:443d39fb$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Since i put my 2 cents in about the pro tools mix bus, ive had nothing
> but
> >> grief from this group. If you install PT's rigs for a living, you must
> be
> >> completely aware of the superior sound quality. Its great Paris still
> >works
> >> for you, but theres alot better sound
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| Re: Dear Obi Wan, I've gone over to the dark side.... [message #65348 is a reply to message #65343] |
Sun, 12 March 2006 04:05 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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:1@linux..." target="_blank">1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Dear Tom,
>>>> I was trying it on a snare...
>>>> I believe that the 0 release is a new way of using that eds =
>>>>compressor.
>>>> I am now very satisfied with the results I get changing the lookahead
>>>=
>>>>(try
>>>> 0 lookahead for great punch) the ratio from 1.15 to 1.40 and then the
>>>=
>>>>attack
>>>> to achieve any desired sttings...
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Dimitrios,
>>>> >What's your application for these settings?
>>>> >Tom
>>>> > "rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message =3D
>>>> >news:443bd829$1@linux...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for the info (again - you've had a ton of great posts)...
>=
>>>>I'm =3D
>>>> >going
>>>> > to try this one out ASAP! =3D20
>>>> >
>>>> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >By changing the ratio down to 1.25:1 and the lookahead up to 0.012
>>>=
>>>>it
>>>> =3D
>>>> >is
>>>> > becoming
>>>> > >frighteningly close to LA2
>>>> > >
>>>> > >I think the whole new thing is that the EDS compressor becomes
a
>>=
>>>>=3D
>>>> >wonderful
>>>> > >compressor if you use 0 as release time as standard and -96 =
>>>>threshold
>>>> =3D
>>>> >then
>>>> > >you can tailor the sound to your likings.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Cheers,
>>>> > >Dimitrios
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>Hi,
>>>> > >>I was comparing eds compressor setting I found with LA2 from =
>>>>UAD1, I
>>>> =3D
>>>> >think
>>>> > >>you can tweak to make it sound the same.
>>>> > >>Can anyone try these settings and compare with his UAD1 ?
>>>> > >>If someone agrees I might sell then my UAD1 ? :)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>Threshold: -96
>>>> > >>Ratio: 1.40:1
>>>> > >>Attack: 0.80
>>>> > >>Release : 00000000
>>>> > >>Lookahead 0.004 (lower gives more punch !! ,better than LA2)
>>>> > >>Output 10.3
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>Regards,
>>>> > >>Dimitrios
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>
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| Re: Dear Obi Wan, I've gone over to the dark side.... [message #65359 is a reply to message #65355] |
Mon, 13 March 2006 01:38 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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t;"=3D<BR>>Dimitrios"=3D20=
>>>><BR>> =20
>>>> <<A href=3D3D"<A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20'>mailto:m=
>>>>usurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20</A><BR>>&n=
>>>>bsp;=20
>>>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Hi,<BR>>>I was =
>>>>comparing=20
>>>> eds =3D<BR>>compressor=3D20<BR>> setting I found with LA2 =
>>>>from UAD1, I=20
>>>> think<BR>>>you can tweak =3D<BR>>to =
>>>>make=3D20<BR>> it=20
>>>> sound the same.<BR>>>Can anyone try these settings and=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>compare with=3D20<BR>> his UAD1 =
>>>>?<BR>>>If someone=20
>>>> agrees I might sell then my =3D<BR>>UAD1 ?=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> :)<BR>>><BR>>>Threshold:=20
>>>> -96<BR>>>Ratio:=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>1.40:1<BR>>>Attack:=20
>>>> 0.80<BR>>>Release :=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> 00000000<BR>>>Lookahead 0.004 (lower gives more punch !! =
>>>>,better=20
>>>> =3D<BR>>than=3D20<BR>> =
>>>>LA2)<BR>>>Output=3D20<BR>> =20
>>>> =
>>>>=3D<BR>>10.3<BR>>><BR>>>Regards,<BR>>=
>>>>>Dimitrios<BR>><BR></BL=3D<BR>>OCKQUOTE></B=
>>>>ODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I need a couple more Paris Adat Optical Cards for the MEC. Someone did get
back with me a month ago, but %#@*&(^% I lost the e-mail!
Steve the not so Art GuyYes, Gary, thank you. I couldn't remember the exact quote for my
paraphrase. :)
SJB
"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
news:443d2ca9$1@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>As godmother of this particular mob, I can assure you shipping to
>>Australia
>
>>is no problem. We may ask you for a favor in the future. :)
>>
> As in "Someday, and that day may never come, I may ask you to do a
> service.
> But until that day, please accept this as a gift on the day of completing
> my mix." ??Dumb Q re: melodyne
can the new piches be truggered via midi? i.e. a keyboard
Don
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:443c5fff$1@linux...
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>nothing like any flatulence I've ever heard though :>)
>
> Hehe... no I find it's not too bad on vocals, and the artifacts are less
> noticable the less you change the pitch, so moving just 20 cents in a
> direction
> isn't that big a problem.
>
> But try moving something sharp and percussing by 6 semitones and you'll
> see
> what I mean. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>>E
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4439bd2f$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> There are far better ways to change pitch.
>>>
>>> Paris has a rather old system. Percussive sounds change from a sharp
>>> crack
>>> into more of a fart. ;o) It works alright on vocals though actually, as
>>they
>>> are much softer by nature, but there would be far better things to use,
>>and
>>> mostly I've only used it for pitch corrections of 10% of a semitone or
>>something.
>>> After processing I usually find I need to boost the level by a couple
> of
>>> db.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't try a whole band though... that's destined for
>>> dissapointment.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> >How well does it work?
>>> >
>>> >Could I slow down a song 10% without it sounding messed u
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