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| Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75884] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 17:30  |
Neil
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; fader" to off. Any of these could have an impact on the LED/meter, but
>don't
>> impact the actual signal being recorded to disk. Now set input gain.
Take
>> the signal to point of clipping and watch your hardware LEDs on the MEC.
>> The hardware and software clipping indicators should be quite close.
Then
>> set gain so that no clipping occurs.
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>> ===
>> 1. The global master meter does not have clip indicators
>> 2. The global master meter sometimes reads incorrectly based on the
>monitor
>> level
>> 3. If you are using Waves plug-ins on the mac, you cannot count on your
>settings
>> be restoring correctly during on update.
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>> So basically, sometimes for final mixes, I will "bounce" each submix,
then
>> create a new submix and add in all of my bounced files
>> and do a final bounce of that. That way I can use the submixes meter
as
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75889 is a reply to message #75884] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 17:24  |
Carl Amburn
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my 22"
widescreen Viewsonic monitors, they came with a CD that had 'drivers'
and a PDF manual on it. When I 'installed' the drivers, all that
happened was the copying of an .inf file to my Windows installer
directory (This was under XP, mind you...) which apparently had the
supported resolution info in it for Windows to digest. After a reboot,
I went to Display Settings, and the PC had recognised the monitor(s),
and the 1680x1050@60 option was the first selection on the dropdown
list. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am...
I have an AGP Matrox P650 video card, running the latest Matrox driver,
without triple-head, .net, or the Matrox Powerdesk app running, but I
don't know whether that makes any difference. Did your monitors come
with any software? This is all I can think of - I know John B.
previously had issues with a 1440x900 19" widescreen that he couldn't
get to work, also.
Sorry you are having trouble - I love my widescreen displays.
Larry Upton
Neil wrote:
> Do you have Plug & Play disabled? If not, that might help. That
> way the driver might be able to force Windows to use the
> settings of your choice.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
>>can't get my Paris machine to recogni
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75890 is a reply to message #75887] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 17:22 |
Martin Harrington
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ze the monitor. The machine is a
>>1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
>>card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
>>and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
>>latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
>>1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
>>get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
>>
>>I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
>>resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
>>Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
>>
>>...so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
>>screwed here, because I need:
>>
>>1. AGP
>>2. WinME
>>3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
>>
>>Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
>>
>>- Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
>>option.
>>
>
>The truth leaks out.
http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootixYeah, but can it run Sonar???.....oops!!!!.looks like it can. Looks like
Apple has finally done something right, IMHO.
;o)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The truth leaks out.
>
> http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootixmac vs pc war lol...
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:457f4001$1@linux...
> Yeah, but can it run Sonar???.....oops!!!!.looks like it can. Looks like
> Apple has finally done something right, IMHO.
>
> ;o)
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75891 is a reply to message #75887] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 18:44 |
Neil
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a>> wrote in message
> news:457f20d4$1@linux...
>>
>> The truth leaks out.
>>
>> http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootix
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>Paul, the GEF 5200 doesn't support that resolution. you will have to move
up to at least the 6000 series cards. Seems like I saw a 6200 at Newegg for
$35.
Edna
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:tbotn2hrqeut0tpkbiqliibb48sumgslaj@4ax.com...
> OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
> can't get my Paris machine to recognize the monitor. The machine is a
> 1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
> card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
> and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
> latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
> 1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
> get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
>
> I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
> resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
> Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
>
> ...so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
> screwed here, because I need:
>
> 1. AGP
> 2. WinME
> 3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
>
> Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
> p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
> option.
>BUGGERIT BUGGERIT BUGGERIT
"j to the c r o n" <fu@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>mac vs pc war lol...
>
>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:457f4001$1@linux...
>> Yeah, but can it run Sonar???.....oops!!!!.looks like it can. Looks like
>> Apple has finally done something right, IMHO.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:457f20d4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The truth leaks out.
>>>
>>> http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootix
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>>
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>Hey Gene! Is there any way you could test and give me an idea of the round
>>trip latency of the ProFire Lightbridge? I'm thinking about using one
to
>>move tracks back and forth between Paris and Cubase SX for processing.
>I'm
>>sure FW will add latency, the question is, will it be impractical?
>>
>>Thanks
>>James
>>
This is the only test that I have had the time to check.
Snare on track one.
ADAT loop out and back.
Record snare on track two.
Track two is recorded 134 samples BEFORE track one?
Changing PT Hardware Buffer size had no effect.
Pro Tools M-Powered 7.3
ProFire Lightbridge V1.8.1-3
GeneI currently have 2 EDS, someone just traded me an MEC and EDS and a C16 for
some work..Well, there was more to the trade no matter.
What Do I need to hook it all up..I have a LA Audio WC generator..does the
3rd EDS have to be hooked to an inerface at all I assume it does. do need
the little ribbon cable..any place sell em?
Also, I remember this EDS card may have issues..is there a danger in putting
it in if it is a bad card or will it just not work?
Thanks all
CYou just need the same little cables that your other 2 cards have. I don't
believe you need an interface hooked up, as long as the card with no interface
is not tagged as your primary card within Paris. I believe it can get word
clock passed to it internally from one of the other cards, and that is what
one of the cables is for. Someone correct this if I am wrong, please..
******************************************************
****Make sure your power supply is up to the task.****
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Can't answer the bad card question.....
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>I currently have 2 EDS, someone just traded me an MEC and EDS and a C16
for
>some work..Well, there was more to the trade no matter.
>
>What Do I need to hook it all up..I have a LA Audio WC generator..does the
>3rd EDS have to be hooked to an inerface at all I assume it does. do need
>the little ribbon cable..any place sell em?
>
>Also, I remember this EDS card may have issues..is there a danger in putting
>it in if it is a bad card or will it just not work?
>
>Thanks all
>CThanks! How are you Phil?
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75894 is a reply to message #75892] |
Fri, 10 November 2006 18:26 |
DJ
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he OS is when I start doing music creation and there aren't
> apps I find useful enough on linux so I'm stuck using one of the less attractive
> operating systems so I can use Live, SX, and so on. But in that I'm an exception.
> Most people could spend 100% of their computing lives using any OS if it
> had the basic apps I mentioned above.
Yep, although OS snobs like us would find reasons to prefer one over
another. And I have a variety of reasons to prefer OSX at this time.
> People talk about whether there will be a 'Google platform' some day. There
> already IS a google platform, in the sense that if Apple switched their (really
> irritating) file browser for the (actually better) XP file browser it wouldn't
> really matter, but if you took away google maps (or MySpace, or Facebook,
> etc) it would screw up a LOT of people.
If you took away OSX or WiXP it would screw up a lot of people, too. But
point taken about the growing importance of certain web sites.
OTOH, I like the concept of having local data rather than throwing my
data out onto a network.
> Now then, a remote control is a revolutionary way to get people in touch
> with information and entertainment? Remember what Jamie Zawinski said, if
> you want to know what software is going to be popular, think if it will help
> a 20 year old college student in his dorm room get laid. Google, MySpace,
> BitTorrnet and YouTube . . .
....and iTunes/iPhoto (music, pics and video) with remote control,
perfect in a dorm room.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Hey Thad,
>>
>> I'm curious, what of OSX is "busy bubbling gunk" and what is functional
>
>> yet aesthetic presentation of useful UI elements?
>>
>> I realize you don't actually work with OSX, but what I see every day is
>
>> more the latter than the former.
>>
>> Are you involved in the GUI initiatives on Linux in order to prevent the
>
>> creation of an unmitigated disaster along the lines of your impression
>> of OSX? :^)
>>
>> Also, clearly Apple actually has been a leader, in some areas, in
>> connecting people to info and entertainment: iTunes, iPods, their remote
>
>> control thingie (and perhaps the upcoming iTV).
>>
>> Not to take anything away from Microsoft and their XBox strategy - or
>>from Google, Bittorent, YouTube or MySpace, ranging from providing
>> value-added services to exploiting content producers and encouraging
>> theft to drive ad sales or build value. On a pure technical level, for
>> content distribution the Bittorent approach is compelling.
>>
>> Oh, and you forgot AOL. ;^)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jam
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75897 is a reply to message #75892] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 19:36 |
LaMont
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icked back for some reason. Happy
>>Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>>catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>>in New York.
>>
>>For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>>Clearly, mom liked him better!
>>
>>Fraternally yours,
>>Paul
>>
>Hey, Happy Birthday Don!
And to Sakis and Paul!
David.
Don Nafe wrote:
> I guess that makes me one day older assuming the 13th is your birthday
>
> Happy Birthday guys!
>
> DOn
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> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:4580409f$1@linux...
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>>Happy Birthday to both of you!
>>
>>respect
>>Nappy
>>
>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>Brother -
>>>
>>>I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>>>Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>>>catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>>>in New York.
>>>
>>>For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>>>Clearly, mom liked him better!
>>>
>>>Fraternally yours,
>>>Paul
>>>
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>
>Happy birthday Paul, Sakis, and Don!!
MR
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:cr40o29asckjq6rm0plmprdi3chljhsubf@4ax.com...
> Brother -
>
> I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
> Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
> catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
> in New York.
>
> For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
> Clearly, mom liked him better!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Paul
>not only were Paul and Sakis born on the same date, but the exact same day
- year as well.
Happy Birthday, all of you!
-steve
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>I guess that makes me one day older assuming the 13th is your birthday
>
>Happy Birthday guys!
>
>DOn
>
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75899 is a reply to message #75884] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 18:51 |
Rob Arsenault
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her -
>
> I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
> Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
> catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
> in New York.
>
> For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
> Clearly, mom liked him better!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Paul
>Hey Jamie,
I appreciated reading both your comments and TCB's. A couple of things came
to mind. I too struggle with local versus network based data. I think its
important to "have" systems that allow for both. To the second thought, I
find it kind of wierd that so many users (me too) buy into the latest and
greatest. Especially when so many of the most common computer based tasks
can still be accomplished on pre 21st century soft and hard ware. I not
trying in the slightest to dis any particular product or approach, and Lord
knows (though I doubt He cares) I DO run and enjoy some 2000-plus tech, but
I got 13 years of productive music making out of my Atari running at what
was it ... 8mhz. Still kicks my butt when I think about it.
MR
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45805d88@linux...
> TCB wrote:
> > My #1 nom
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75900 is a reply to message #75890] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 18:58 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
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ination for busy, bubbling gunk is the Dock, which mysteriously
fills
> > up with every single application that is ever installed on the machine.
>
> The dock is not mandatory, but I find it handy. Given your opinions, if
> you actually used OSX you'd probably soon figure out how to make it more
> useful and less intrusive for you (system prefs/dock).
>
> I haven't noticed apps I install appearing there unless I put them
> there, other than the apps that come pre-installed.
>
> FYI you can simply drag off any that you don't want there.
>
> You can drag those remaining into any order you like. You can also put
> folders on the dock, and documents, anything you want handy.
>
>
> > Then
> > the icons get small (and often don't make much sense anyway) so it has
to
> > RESIZE itself when it's moused over. Because that makes a lot of sense,
in
> > the real world things often change size when I focus on them.
>
> Heh. Just that one thing does.
>
> You can specify whether dock items magnify or not. I prefer that they do
> because I've chosen to put a lot of stuff on the dock, and even on a 24"
> monitor (same as yours, I think) the icons are pretty small. The
> magnification works great. It's a useful, even clever approach IMO.
>
>
> > And of course
> > the Dock is always there, waiting to resize itself should you mouse over
> > some part of an app that happens to be near it.
>
> So now you know you can turn that feature off.
>
>
> > The fast user switching is
> > also great, when I change users it's REALLY important to me that it all
happen
> > like a big cube moved to a different side and the new user is there.
That
> > changes my life.
>
> Heh. It helps illustrate the user change for those who don't have the
> intrinsic understanding you do. Dunno if you can disable that, it's
> never annoyed me so I haven't looked.
>
>
> > But my real point is that the operating system doesn't matter anymore,
except
> > to the people who sell them and a smaller number of people who are
interested
> > in them. What most people want from their computers (including me) is
the
> > ability to get information, find answers to questions, get their job
done,
> > and sometimes be entertained. Those tasks are no longer significantly
related
> > to what OS is run. For them one needs a web browser, a media player,
some
> > 'office' applications, an email (and maybe news/rss) reader, and a few
extras.
>
> Yep, those can all be open source: TBird, Firefox, OpenOffice/NeoOffice,
> and VLC are a few I use on OSX.
>
>
> > For me those extras are audio apps, a command line, and a development
environment.
> > For you they might be an image editor and a video editor.
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75901 is a reply to message #75884] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 20:10 |
Kim
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r />
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> Same as what you mentioned plus a variety of animation software.
>
>
> > Personally, for a window manager (which is what most people mean by an
OS
> > anyway) I like Gnome. It's simple, it runs quickly on almost any
hardware.
> > The 'stock' install on Debian includes a drop down menu for all the
applications
> > installed, a bar where I can drop quick launch icons for the five apps I
> > use all the time, a shortcut to the root filesystem and my home
directory,
> > and a trash can.
>
> You could, with training (grin), set up the OSX dock to do that.
>
>
> > When I need directions, I go to google maps no matter what OS I'm using.
> > When I want to see a replay of the Michael Essien goal that took a point
> > from Arsenal on Sunday I go to YouTube. When I want to watch the whole
game
> > I fire up Azereus and download two VCD ISOs via BitTorrent. If I forget
the
> > name of the guy who assassinated McKinley I go to wikipedia. If I'm
going
> > to write code I use Eclipse or Emacs. The first time in my day I'm
restricted
> > IN ANY WAY by the OS is when I start doing music creation and there
aren't
> > apps I find useful enough on linux so I'm stuck using one of the less
attractive
> > operating systems so I can use Live, SX, and so on. But in that I'm an
exception.
> > Most people could spend
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75902 is a reply to message #75884] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 19:30 |
AlexPlasko
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100% of their computing lives using any OS if it
> > had the basic apps I mentioned above.
>
> Yep, although OS snobs like us would find reasons to prefer one over
> another. And I have a variety of reasons to prefer OSX at this time.
>
>
> > People talk about whether there will be a 'Google platform' some day.
There
> > already IS a google platform, in the sense that if Apple switched their
(really
> > irritating) file browser for the (actually better) XP file browser it
wouldn't
> > really matter, but if you took away google maps (or MySpace, or
Facebook,
> > etc) it would screw up a LOT of people.
>
> If you took away OSX or WiXP it would screw up a lot of people, too. But
> point taken about the growing importance of certain web sites.
>
> OTOH, I like the concept of having local data rather than throwing my
> data out onto a network.
>
>
> > Now then, a remote control is a revolutionary way to get people in touch
> > with information and entertainment? Remember what Jamie Zawinski said,
if
> > you want to know what software is going to be popular, think if it will
help
> > a 20 year old college student in his dorm room get laid. Google,
MySpace,
> > BitTorrnet and YouTube . . .
>
> ...and iTunes/iPhoto (music, pics and video) with remote control,
> perfect in a dorm room.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> > TCB
> >
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! [message #75905 is a reply to message #75901] |
Sun, 12 November 2006 20:09 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>So how old are you two anyway...me...51
>
>DOn
>
>"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:cr40o29asckjq6rm0plmprdi3chljhsubf@4ax.com...
>> Brother -
>>
>> I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>> Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>> catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>> in New York.
>>
>> For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>> Clearly, mom liked him better!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Paul
>>
>
>Well a big happy birthday to both of you! :o)
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Brother -
>
>I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>in New York.
>
>For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>Clearly, mom liked him better!
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Paul
>On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:54:57 -0500, Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Brother -
>
>I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>in New York.
>
>For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>Clearly, mom liked
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Sun, 12 November 2006 20:21 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
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him better!
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Paul
Happy birfin' day to da bot' a' youse.
From another December Club member (29th - you still have time to buy
me stuff....)
pabOn Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:43:20 -0600, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>I know this is 'waaay' off topic. However, this is one magic mutter and
>worth the 8 minutes to watch.
>
> http://video.google.com:80/videoplay?docid=52495189749786283 34
>
>AA
>
That's freakin' amazing....
He's definitely a family member.
pab"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>My #1 nomination for busy, bubbling gunk is the Dock, which mysteriously
fills
>up with every single application that is ever installed on the machine.
Then
>the icons get small (and often don't make much sense anyway) so it has to
>RESIZE itself when it's moused over. Because that makes a lot of sense,
in
>the real world things often change size when I focus on them. And of course
>the Dock is always there, waiting to resize itself should you mouse over
>some part of an app that happens to be near it. The fast user switching
is
>also great, when I change users it's REALLY important to me that it all
happen
>like a big cube moved to a different side and the new user is there. That
>changes my life.
Ok, Just because you don't know how to use the Dock, doesn't make the Dock
stupid! Go to the top left hand corner and click on the apple icon. The
fifth item down is the dock, turn magnification off. You will also find
all of the Dock Preferences there.
Have too many short cut icons in the dock and want a short cut icon off the
dock, drag it off the dock, release and it's gone. Or you can highlight
an item in the dock, right mouse click, go "remove", and it's gone. Want
to add a short cut to the dock, drag an icon on to the dock, it adds it.
That's just one of many ways to do it. You want the dock out of the way,
go apple icon, Dock, go "Hide Dock". Want the Dock to appear again, put
your curser in the area where the Dock would be and it reappears. You can
set the timing on this in the preferences for how fast you want it back.
Move you curser off the Dock area, it disappears again. Or you can set
up hot corners, where you can place the curser for a second or tw
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corner of the screen and the dock appears. The Dock rocks, you just have
to know how to use it. There are many things you can do with the Dock, I'm
sure you could find ways to set it up so it would be workable.
>
>But my real point is that the operating system doesn't matter anymore, except
>to the people who sell them and a smaller number of people who are interested
>in them. What most people want from their computers (including me) is the
>ability to get information, find answers to questions, get their job done,
>and sometimes be entertained. Those tasks are no longer significantly related
>to what OS is run. For them one needs a web browser, a media player, some
>'office' applications, an email (and maybe news/rss) reader, and a few extras.
>For me those extras are audio apps, a command line, and a development environment.
>For you they might be an image editor and a video editor.
Everything you say people wand in a computer/ operating system comes on a
stock Mac right out of the box, including the image and AV editors
>
>Personally, for a window manager (which is what most people mean by an OS
>anyway) I like Gnome. It's simple, it runs quickly on almost any hardware.
>The 'stock' install on Debian includes a drop down menu for all the applications
>installed, a bar where I can drop quick launch icons for the five apps I
>use all the time, a shortcut to the root filesystem and my home directory,
>and a trash can.
>
>When I need directions, I go to google maps no matter what OS I'm using.
>When I want to see a replay of the Michael
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Essien goal that took a point
>from Arsenal on Sunday I go to YouTube. When I want to watch the whole game
>I fire up Azereus and download two VCD ISOs via BitTorrent. If I forget
the
>name of the guy who assassinated McKinley I go to wikipedia. If I'm going
>to write code I use Eclipse or Emacs. The first time in my day I'm restricted
>IN ANY WAY by the OS is when I start doing music creation and there aren't
>apps I find useful enough on linux so I'm stuck using one of the less attractive
>operating systems so I can use Live, SX, and so on. But in that I'm an exception.
>Most people could spend 100% of their computing lives using any OS if it
>had the basic apps I mentioned above.
>
>People talk about whether there will be a 'Google platform' some day. There
>already IS a google platform, in the sense that if Apple switched their
(really
>irritating) file browser for the (actually better) XP file browser it wouldn't
>really matter, but if you took away google maps (or MySpace, or Facebook,
>etc) it would screw up a LOT of people.
Once again, I don't think you know how to use the Mac file browser correctly,
because you are so use to using the suck ass windows file browser that you
don't get it. I'll just say that the Mac file browser sucks so bad that
MS copied it for Windows Vista!
>
>Now then, a remote control is a revolutionary way to get people in touch
>with information and entertainment? Remember what Jamie Zawinski said, if
>you want to know what software is going to be popular, think if it will
help
>a 20 year old college student in his dorm room get laid. Google, MySpace,
>BitTorrnet and YouTube . . .
>
A remote is just a nice feature to have for a multimedia system. It's the
wow, James Bond factor, and it also enhances the overall users experience.
Some of the pioneering technologies came from Apple and the mac community.
Programs like Sherlock and Watson helped shape what is available today with
their concepts.
As far as the college student, I could tell you some personal stories, but
I'll save that, and just say that I know personally that a Mac can take a
college student places; )
>TCB
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Thad,
>>
>>I'm curious, what of OSX is "busy bubbling gunk" and what is functional
>
>>yet aesthetic presentation of useful UI elements?
>>
>>I realize you don't actually work with OSX, but what I see every day is
>
>>more the latter than the former.
>>
>>Are you involved in the GUI initiatives on Linux in order to prevent the
>
>>creation of an unmitigated disaster along the lines of your impression
>>of OSX? :^)
>>
>>Also, clearly Apple actually has been a leader, in some areas, in
>>connecting people to info and entertainment: iTunes, iPods, their remote
>
>>control thingie (and perhaps the upcoming iTV).
>>
>>Not to take anything away from Microsoft and their XBox strategy - or
>>from Google, Bittorent, YouTube or MySpace, ranging from providing
>>value-added services to exploiting content producers and encouraging
>>theft to drive ad sales or build value. On a pure technical level, for
>>content distribution the Bittorent approach is compelling.
>>
>>Oh, and you forgot AOL. ;^)
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>> From what I've seen of Vista it's nothing to write home about. But if
>MSoft
>>> was looking to strive for a better GUI (Vista isn't about a better GUI,
>IMHO,
>>> it's about a more lucrative way to screw your customers) I'd suggest
they
>>> aim higher than the busy, bubb
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>>>
>>> But my guess is that Vista will be the end of the 'OS wars.' Sun had
it
>right
>>> (just way ahead of their time, which is nearly as bad as being late),
>the
>>> computer is the network. Neither Apple nor MSoft has been a leader in
>providing
>>> new and exiting ways to connect people with information or entertainment.
>>> Bittorrent, Google, YouTube, MySpace. Repeat after me, Bittorrent, Google,
>>> YouTube, MySpace . . .
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The truth leaks out.
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>>>> http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootix
>>>
>Happy B-day to all of you guys.
James
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Brother -
>
>I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>in New York.
>
>For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>Clearly, mom liked him better!
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Paul
>Happy B-day both of you!
Graham
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Brother -
>
>I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>in New York.
>
>For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>Clearly, mom liked him better!
>
>Fraternally yours,
>Paul
>Oh wonderful! I have a new song that needs a ton of tracks.
SO you think I can just attach the card and rock on?
Shoould I then switch out my 442 for the new MEC to lessen the drain on the
Comps PS?
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>I run 6 EDS cards - with one MEC, and various other interfaces depending
on
>what I need. Seems like I remember chaining my wordclock output from my
"A"
>interface to all of the other ones (before I had an external wordclock).
You
>do need the EDS 10 and 16 pin jumper cables though. You can actually make
>these yourself with ribbon cable and connectors - I actually might have
some
>laying around here.
>
>rock on,
>-Carl
>
>"Sound Dog" <dogster@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:45801b9d$1@linux...
>> Hi Cujo,
>>
>> My understanding is that you do need external wordclock to run more than
2
>> MECs / 442s. I have 3 EDS cards in my setup running 2 MECs, with nothing
>> attached to the 3rd EDS.
>>
>> Also, make sure you've got adequate ventilation in your computer - these
>> babies get hot.
>>
>> I got a set of EDS cables thru http://www.eastcoastmusic.com a couple
of
>> years ago, from Morgan Pettinato. Maybe they can still supply.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Stewart.
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil Aiken wrote in message <45800842$1@linux>...
>> >
>> >You just need the same little cables that your other 2 cards have. I
>don't
>> >believe you need an interface hooked up, as long as the card with no
>> interface
>> >is not tagged as your primary card within Paris. I believe it can get
>word
>> >clock passed to it internally from one of the other cards, and that is
>what
>> >one of the cables is for. Someone correct this if I am wrong, please..
>> >
>> >******************************************************
>> >****Make sure your power supply is up to the task.****
>> >******************************************************
>> >
>> >Can't answer the bad card question.....
>> >
>> >
>> >"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I currently have 2 EDS, someone just traded me an MEC and EDS and a
C16
>> >for
>> >>some work..Well, there was more to the trade no matter.
>> >>
>> >>What Do I need to hook it all up..I have a LA Audio WC generator..does
>the
>> >>3rd EDS have to be hooked to an inerface at all I assume it does. do
>need
>> >>the little ribbon cable..any place sell em?
>> >>
>> >>Also, I remember this EDS card may have issues..is there a danger in
>> putting
>> >>it in if it is a bad card or will it just not work?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks all
>> >>C
>> >
>>
>>
>
>Chris,
Have you heard the TC Konnekt 24D? I'm curious about how you can't route
anything on the Focusrite unit -- does it have a mixer/submixer control panel
at all? And what about the M-Audio Light Bridge? Does it have routing like
the RME Digiface?
Thanks,
Graham
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
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>> FYI you can simply drag off any that you don't want there.
>>
>> You can drag those remaining into any order you like. You can also put
>> folders on the dock, and documents, anything you want handy.
>>
>>
>>> Then
>>> the icons get small (and often don't make much sense anyway) so it has
> to
>>> RESIZE itself when it's moused over. Because that makes a lot of sense,
> in
>>> the real world things often change size when I focus on them.
>> Heh. Just that one thing does.
>>
>> You can specify whether dock items magnify or not. I prefer that they do
>> because I've chosen to put a lot of stuff on the dock, and even on a 24"
>> monitor (same as yours, I think) the icons are pretty small. The
>> magnification works great. It's a useful, even clever approach IMO.
>>
>>
>> > And of course
>>> the Dock is always there, waiting to resize itself should you mouse over
>>> some part of an app that happens to be near it.
>> So now you know you can turn that feature off.
>>
>>
>> > The fast user switching is
>>> also great, when I change users it's REALLY important to me that it all
> happen
>>> like a big cube moved to a different side and the new user is there.
> That
>>> changes my life.
>> Heh. It helps illustrate the user change for those who don't have the
>> intrinsic understanding you do. Dunno if you can disable that, it's
>> never annoyed me so I haven't looked.
>>
>>
>>> But my real point is that the operating system doesn't matter anymore,
> except
>>> to the people who sell them and a smaller number of people who are
> interested
>>> in them. What most people want from their computers (including me) is
> the
>>> ability to get information, find answers to questions, get their job
> done,
>>> and sometimes be entertained. Those tasks are no longer significantly
> related
>>> to what OS is run. For them one needs a web browser, a media player,
> some
>>> 'office' applications, an email (and maybe news/rss) reader, and a few
> extras.
>> Yep, those can all be open source: TBird, Firefox, OpenOffice/NeoOffice,
>> and VLC are a few I use on OSX.
>>
>>
>>> For me those extras are audio apps, a command line, and a development
> environment.
>>> For you they might be an image editor and a video editor.
>> Same as what you mentioned plus a variety of animation software.
>>
>>
>>> Personally, for a window manager (which is what most people mean by an
> OS
>>> anyway) I like Gnome. It's simple, it runs quickly on almost any
> hardware.
>>> The 'stock' install on Debian includes a drop down menu for all the
> applications
>>> installed, a bar where I can drop quick launch icons for the five apps I
>>> use all the time, a shortcut to the root filesystem and my home
> directory,
>>> and a trash can.
>> You could, with training (grin), set up the OSX dock to do that.
>>
>>
>>> When I need directions, I go to google maps no matter what OS I'm using.
>>> When I want to see a replay of the Michael Essien goal that took a point
>>> from Arsenal on Sunday I go to YouTube. When I want to watch the whole
> game
>>> I fire up Azereus and download two VCD ISOs via BitTorrent. If I forget
> the
>>> name of the guy who assassinated McKinley I go to wikipedia. If I'm
> going
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spend 100% of their computing lives using any OS if it
>>> had the basic apps I mentioned above.
>> Yep, although OS snobs like us would find reasons to prefer one over
>> another. And I have a variety of reasons to prefer OSX at this time.
>>
>>
>>> People talk about whether there will be a 'Google platform' some day.
> There
>>> already IS a google platform, in the sense that if Apple switched their
> (really
>>> irritating) file browser for the (actually better) XP file browser it
> wouldn't
>>> really matter, but if you took away google maps (or MySpace, or
> Facebook,
>>> etc) it would screw up a LOT of people.
>> If you took away OSX or WiXP it would screw up a lot of people, too. But
>> point taken about the growing importance of certain web sites.
>>
>> OTOH, I like the concept of having local data rather than throwing my
>> data out onto a network.
>>
>>
>>> Now then, a remote control is a revolutionary way to get people in touch
>>> with information and entertainment? Remember what Jamie Zawinski said,
> if
>>> you want to know what software is going to be popular, think if it will
> help
>>> a 20 year old college student in his dorm room get laid. Google,
> MySpace,
>>> BitTorrnet and YouTube . . .
>> ...and iTunes/iPhoto (music, pics and video) with remote control,
>> perfect in a dorm room.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey Thad,
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious, what of OSX is "busy bubbling gunk" and what is functional
>>>> yet aesthetic presentation of useful UI elements?
>>>>
>>>> I realize you don't actually work with OSX, but what I see every day is
>>>> more the latter than the former.
>>>>
>>>> Are you involved in the GUI initiatives on Linux in order to prevent
> the
>>>> creation of an unmitigated disaster along the lines of your impression
>>>> of OSX? :^)
>>>>
>>>> Also, clearly Apple actually has been a leader, in some areas, in
>>>> connecting people to info and entertainment: iTunes, iPods, their
> remote
>>>> control thingie (and perhaps the upcoming iTV).
>>>>
>>>> Not to take anything away from Microsoft and their XBox strategy - or
>>> >from Google, Bittorent, YouTube or MySpace, ranging from providing
>>>> value-added services to exploiting content producers and encouraging
>>>> theft to drive ad sales or build value. On a pure technical level, for
>>>> content distribution the Bittorent approach is compelling.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and you forgot AOL. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>> From what I've seen of Vista it's nothing to write home about. But if
>>> MSoft
>>>>> was looking to strive for a better GUI (Vista isn't about a better
> GUI,
>>> IMHO,
>>>>> it's about a more lucrative way to screw your customers) I'd suggest
> they
>>>>> aim higher than the busy, bubbling gunk that is OS X.FurryFeline.
>>>>>
>>>>> But my guess is that Vista will be the end of the 'OS wars.' Sun had
> it
>>> right
>>>>> (just way ahead of their time, which is nearly as bad as being late),
>>> the
>>>>> computer is the network. Neither Apple nor MSoft has been a leader in
>>> providing
>>>>> new and exiting ways to connect people with information or
> entertainment.
>>>>> Bittorrent, Google, YouTube, MySpace. Repeat after me, Bittorrent,
> Google,
>>>>> YouTube, MySpace . . .
>>>>>
>>>
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>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The truth leaks out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootix
>
>Hi Fella's,
I've recorded a couple of things with the Profire
Lightbridge and my macbook pro. I did a test recording
@ 24bit/48/khz, 24 track to the internal drive and
it did not hiccup at all for about 30 minutes.
The computer processor allowed me to monitor
with 128 samples latency in real time (no plugins).
I did a live recording of an R&B band off of my Yamaha
O1V96 (17 tracks @ 16bit/44.1khz) for 90 minutes no problem. For safety sake
I set the latency to 500 samples .I'm going to get an Express 34 card and
SATA
drive (7200rpm, 500 gig, 16 mb buffer) and I anticipate
no problem recording 32 trcks @ 24bit/48Khz.
cheers,
Mike
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Gene! It sounds like it could be usable if it's only around 3ms. I'm
>wondering about multi tracks. Please let me know more when you find out.
> What do you think of PT with it? Can you get 32 track of I/O in PT at
44.1,
>48K? It was unclear if it is stuck at 18 I/Os with PT at 44.1/48.
>
>Thanks
>James
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hey Gene! Is there any way you could test and give me an idea of the
>round
>>>>trip latency of the ProFire Lightbridge? I'm thinking about using one
>>to
>>>>move tracks back and forth between Paris and Cubase SX for processing.
>>
>>>I'm
>>>>sure FW will add latency, the question is, will it be impractical?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>James
>>>>
>>
>>This is the only test that I have had the time to check.
>>Snare on track one.
>>ADAT loop out and back.
>>Record snare on track two.
>>Track two is recorded 134 samples BEFORE track one?
>>Changing PT Hardware Buffer size had no effect.
>>
>>Pro Tools M-Powered 7.3
>>ProFire Lightbridge V1.8.1-3
>>
>>Gene
>>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Gene! It sounds like it could be usable if it's only around 3ms. I'm
>wondering about multi tracks. Please let me know more when you find out.
> What do you think of PT with it? Can you get 32 track of I/O in PT at
44.1,
>48K? It was unclear if it is stuck at 18 I/Os with PT at 44.1/48.
>
>Thanks
>James
>
I’m doing a mix right now that is stemming 16 out from PT to Paris for summing.
PT MP is hobbled at a max I/O of 18 by Digi, but it is possible to get a
“Paris” sounding mix with this setup even without more outputs.
The latency has no effect on this config. Paris is simply sitting there,
running in ‘Live Mix” mode. As usual, I am returning to the Mac for the 2-track
mix – in this instance its 2 channels in Pro Tools. Whatever the small amount
of latency is in this loop, it is not affecting my tightest mutes or delaying
any metering to the point that I can perceive it.
My choice for PT for this mix has to do with the complexity of the mix and
the fact that PT has the best options for editing and mix automation (for
me), and it integrates very nicely with my MotorMix.
I have the Oxford plugs running native in PT, so having an unlimited number
of Oxford plugs and Waves SSL plugs gives a lot of options. So far I like
this better than mixing from Logic or DP. The limited number of tracks (48
mono or stereo) and the limited I/O will force me to use other options in
some circumstances, but this setup benefits from many of Pro Tools strengths
and maintains most of the Paris depth. It’s what I’ve been preaching for
years.
I’m not sure I will have any way to verify the throughput latency. Both Performer
and Logic mess with the input timing just the way PT seems to do. I think
I’m out of options for verifying it, but I’m open for suggestions.
Gene
P.S. I’m also enjoying the Medodyne Plugin.Wow...what a coincedence you guys are talking about this.
I am trying to work a trade with Morgan on one right now.
I saw the ad for the 8pre on MIX Magazine.
Looks great for my needs.
The 8 ADAT lightpipe outs should interface
with the PARIS ADAT card correct?
I am just looking for more mic pres for drumset micing, etc..
Brandon
"Graham Duncan" <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>
>Chris,
>
>Have you heard the TC Konnekt 24D? I'm curious about how you can't route
>anything on the Focusrite unit -- does it have a mixer/submixer control
panel
>at all? And what about the M-Audio Light Bridge? Does it have routing
like
>the RME Digiface?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Graham
>
>Chris
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your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>> Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>> catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>> in New York.
>>
>> For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>> Clearly, mom liked him better!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Paul
>>
>Happy B-day to two of my favorite Paris drinking buddies!
Gene"Mike Mullin" <lunarlordship@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>Hi Fella's,
>I've recorded a couple of things with the Profire
>Lightbridge and my macbook pro. I did a test recording
>@ 24bit/48/khz, 24 track to the internal drive and
>it did not hiccup at all for about 30 minutes.
>The computer processor allowed me to monitor
>with 128 samples latency in real time (no plugins).
>I did a live recording of an R&B band off of my Yamaha
>O1V96 (17 tracks @ 16bit/44.1khz) for 90 minutes no problem. For safety
sake
>I set the latency to 500 samples .I'm going to get an Express 34 card and
>SATA
>drive (7200rpm, 500 gig, 16 mb buffer) and I anticipate
>no problem recording 32 trcks @ 24bit/48Khz.
>cheers,
>Mike
I’m getting some incredible numbers out of my MacBook Pro. I have gone over
130 tracks playback using my FirmTek RAID and Logic.
The LightBridge seems to work well with the FirmTek.
This is truly a studio under your arm.
I posted some results here:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=80869
geneHey guys! Thanks for the info. Maybe Deej could pipe in with some test
ideas for the round trip thing.
Gene, are you sub mixing the PT 48 track down to 18 outs? At least there
are other software options for 32x34 I/Os.
Thanks again.
James
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Gene! It sounds like it could be usable if it's only around 3ms.
I'm
>>wondering about multi tracks. Please let me know more when you find out.
>> What do you think of PT with it? Can you get 32 track of I/O in PT at
>44.1,
>>48K? It was unclear if it is stuck at 18 I/Os with PT at 44.1/48.
>>
>>Thanks
>>James
>>
>
>I’m doing a mix right now that is stemming 16 out from PT to Paris for summing.
>
>
>PT MP is hobbled at a max I/O of 18 by Digi, but it is possible to get a
>“Paris” sounding mix with this setup even without more outputs.
>
>The latency has no effect on this config. Paris is simply sitting there,
>running in ‘Live Mix” mode. As usual, I am returning to the Mac for the
2-track
>mix – in this instance its 2 channels in Pro Tools. Whatever the small amount
>of latency is in this loop, it is not affecting my tightest mutes or delaying
>any metering to the point that I can perceive it.
>
>My choice for PT for this mix has to do with the complexity of the mix and
>the fact that PT has the best options for editing and mix automation (for
>me), and it integrates very nicely with my MotorMix.
>
>I have the Oxford plugs running native in PT, so ha
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ving an unlimited number
>of Oxford plugs and Waves SSL plugs gives a lot of options. So far I like
>this better than mixing from Logic or DP. The limited number of tracks (48
>mono or stereo) and the limited I/O will force me to use other options in
>some circumstances, but this setup benefits from many of Pro Tools strengths
>and maintains most of the Paris depth. It’s what I’ve been preaching for
>years.
>
>I’m not sure I will have any way to verify the throughput latency. Both
Performer
>and Logic mess with the input timing just the way PT seems to do. I think
>I’m out of options for verifying it, but I’m open for suggestions.
>
>Gene
>
>P.S. I’m also enjoying the Medodyne Plugin.
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"Mike Mullin" <lunarlordship@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Fella's,
>>I've recorded a couple of things with the Profire
>>Lightbridge and my macbook pro. I did a test recording
>>@ 24bit/48/khz, 24 track to the internal drive and
>>it did not hiccup at all for about 30 minutes.
>>The computer processor allowed me to monitor
>>with 128 samples latency in real time (no plugins).
>>I did a live recording of an R&B band off of my Yamaha
>>O1V96 (17 tracks @ 16bit/44.1khz) for 90 minutes no problem. For safety
>sake
>>I set the latency to 500 samples .I'm going to get an Express 34 card and
>>SATA
>>drive (7200rpm, 500 gig, 16 mb buffer) and I anticipate
>>no problem recording 32 trcks @ 24bit/48Khz.
>>cheers,
>>Mike
>
>
>I’m getting some incredible numbers out of my MacBook Pro. I have gone over
>130 tracks playback using my FirmTek RAID and Logic.
>The LightBridge seems to work well with the FirmTek.
>This is truly a studio under your arm.
>I posted some results here:
>http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=80869
>gene
>
Gene, that is incredible!"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Gene, are you sub mixing the PT 48 track down to 18 outs? At least there
>are other software options for 32x34 I/Os.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>James
>
>
Typically my most important 10 or12 tracks get individual outputs, that leaves
me two or three subs/stems.
When I’m working from Logic I go out 32 outs from my 2408 system to Paris.
GeneThat UPS seems to work. Thanks guys...
....now the power company is racing the UPS... will they get it back up
or will we go offline? ;o)Power company won. ;o)
UPS lasts at least half an hour...
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>That UPS seems to work. Thanks guys...
>
>...now the power company is racing the UPS... will they get it back up
>or will we go offline? ;o)if you're not already, you will be someday so happy birthday old
man....errr men.
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:54:57 -0500, Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Brother -
>
>I got your email, but my reply was kicked back for some reason. Happy
>Birthday, Sakis! Hope you have a wonderful year, and I look forward to
>catching up with you (and any others from clan Paris) at the AES show
>in New York.
>
>For those who don't know, Sakis and I were born on the same day!
>Clearly, mom liked him better!
>
>Fraternally yours,
>PaulI would like to run my 3 eds sytem with xp and waves ssl bundle...
anyone use that combination with no crashes and blue screen.....
please help me to decide..yes or no..it has to be stable because I work for
money with my Pasis system..
SplicoHey Gene... what type of remote recording are you doing with
your laptop, mostly? Live bands at clubs & festivals? Nearby
symphony orchestras with a lotta spot-micing?
Sounds like you have a serious out-of-studio setup there.
Neil
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Gene, are you sub mixing the PT 48 track down to 18 outs? At least there
>>are other software options for 32x34 I/Os.
>>
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>
>Typically my most important 10 or12 tracks get individual outputs, that
leaves
>me two or three subs/stems.
>When I’m working from Logic I go out 32 outs from my 2408 system to Paris.
>GeneHey Jamie
I've been running Logic on an old (1998 I think) Mac clone. Recently a
friend gave me a good deal on a G4 which I've been running Cubase on.
Generally I record and mix on Paris in a PC. My Cubase projects have been
really teeny to date, but I tried to get 16 tracks up last night -just
audio, no effects -and it was starting to crackel. I'd love to be able to
run a dual G5. I imagine I could get pretty much all my tracks going on a
larger faster machine -synths, FX, tracks. I figure I'm gonna stick with my
setup for another year or two and then sink some cash into something that
will allow me to get it all done ITB, Being spread out over several
computers I can only glimpse how effecient the creative process will be for
me. Sounds like its been a real boost for you. I can't wait.
Cheers,
MR
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4580b48c@linux...
>
> Hey Mike,
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Martin Harrington
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>
> Systems that allow for both, I agree.
>
> You're right that a lot of common tasks are fine on older boxes. Word
> processing, web browsing, email. Although some apps have bloated up to
> the point that they feel better on more recent computers.
>
> Speaking of Atari, that takes me back. My old Ataris were great for
> MIDI. My old Amigas opened up a world of video production (live
> switching and deck control) and animation. The NeXT was an amazing
> graphics and development box. BeOS was on its way to greatness with
> media production when it was criminally run over and left to die.
>
> Back to the present, the dual G5 is helpful and even necessary for some
> of the high bandwidth tasks that have found a home here, like complex
> synth/FX plugins, updated animation/graphics apps and hard drive based
> HiDef video editing. With all these CPU cycles handy, this box and its
> apps are doing the job it used to take several racks of gear to do, if
> it could be done at all, so it's saving me a bunch of money and
> expanding my capabilities.
>
> The overall OSX foundation and GUI is fairly well thought out and
> usable. I wouldn't say it's perfect but it's better than the current
> alternatives for what I do.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Mike R. wrote:
> > Hey Jamie,
> > I appreciated reading both your comments and TCB's. A couple of things
came
> > to mind. I too struggle with local versus network based data. I think
its
> > important to "have" systems that allow for both. To the second thought,
I
> > find it kind of wierd that so many users (me too) buy into the latest
and
> > greatest. Especially when so many of the most common computer based
tasks
> > can still be accomplished on pre 21st century soft and hard ware. I not
> > trying in the slightest to dis any particular product or approach, and
Lord
> > knows (though I doubt He cares) I DO run and enjoy some 2000-plus tech,
but
> > I got 13 years of productive music making out of my Atari running at
what
> > was it ... 8mhz. Still kicks my butt when I think about it.
> > MR
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45805d88@linux...
> >> TCB wrote:
> >>> My #1 nomination for busy, bubbling gunk is the Dock, which
mysteriously
> > fills
> >>> up with every single application that is ever installed on the
machine.
> >> The dock is not mandatory, but I find it handy. Given your opinions, if
> >> you actually used OSX you'd probably soon figure out how to make it
more
> >> useful and less intrusive for you (system prefs/dock).
> >>
> >> I haven't noticed apps I install appearing there unless I put them
> >> there, other than the apps that come pre-installed.
> >>
> >> FYI you can simply drag off any that you don't want there.
> >>
> >> You can drag those remaining into any order you like. You can also put
> >> folders on the dock, and documents, anything you want handy.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Then
> >>> the icons get small (and often don't make much sense anyway) so it has
> > to
> >>> RESIZE itself when it's moused over. Because that makes a lot of
sense,
> > in
> >>> the real world things often change size when I focus on them.
> >> Heh. Just that one thing does.
> >>
> >> You can specify whether dock items magnify or not. I prefer that they
do
> >> because I've chosen to put a lot of stuff on the dock, and even on a
24"
> >> monitor (same as yours, I think) the icons are pretty small. The
> >> magnification works great. It's a useful, even clever approach IMO.
> >>
> >>
> >> > And of course
> >>> the Dock is always there, waiting to resize itself should you mouse
over
> >>> some part of an app that happens to be near it.
> >> So now you know you can turn that feature off.
> >&g
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> >>
> >> > The fast user switching is
> >>> also great, when I change users it's REALLY important to me that it
all
> > happen
> >>> like a big cube moved to a different side and the new user is there.
> > That
> >>> changes my life.
> >> Heh. It helps illustrate the user change for those who don't have the
> >> intrinsic understanding you do. Dunno if you can disable that, it's
> >> never annoyed me so I haven't looked.
> >>
> >>
> >>> But my real point is that the operating system doesn't matter anymore,
> > except
> >>> to the people who sell them and a smaller number of people who are
> > interested
> >>> in them. What most people want from their computers (including me) is
> > the
> >>> ability to get information, find answers to questions, get their job
> > done,
> >>> and sometimes be entertained. Those tasks are no longer significantly
> > related
> >>> to what OS is run. For them one needs a web browser, a media player,
> > some
> >>> 'office' applications, an email (and maybe news/rss) reader, and a few
> > extras.
> >> Yep, those can all be open source: TBird, Firefox,
OpenOffice/NeoOffice,
> >> and VLC are a few I use on OSX.
> >>
> >>
> >>> For me those extras are audio apps, a command line, and a development
> > environment.
> >>> For you they might be an image editor and a video editor.
> >> Same as what you mentioned plus a variety of animation software.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Personally, for a window manager (which is what most people mean by an
> > OS
> >>> anyway) I like Gnome. It's simple, it runs quickly on almost any
> > hardware.
> >>> The 'stock' install on Debian includes a drop down menu for all the
> > applications
> >>> installed, a bar where I can drop quick launch icons for the five apps
I
> >>&
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Mon, 13 November 2006 05:20 |
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> >>> IN ANY WAY by the OS is when I start doing music creation and there
> > aren't
> >>> apps I find useful enough on linux so I'm stuck using one of the less
> > attractive
> >>> operating systems so I can use Live, SX, and so on. But in that I'm an
> > exception.
> >>> Most people could spend 100% of their computing lives using any OS if
it
> >>> had the basic apps I mentioned above.
> >> Yep, although OS snobs like us would find reasons to prefer one over
> >> another. And I have a variety of reasons to prefer OSX at this time.
> >>
> >>
> >>> People talk about whether there will be a 'Google platform' some day.
> > There
> >>> already IS a google platform, in the sense that if Apple switched
their
> > (really
> >>> irritating) file browser for the (actually better) XP file browser it
> > wouldn't
> >>> really matter, but if you took away google maps (or MySpace, or
> > Facebook,
> >>> etc) it would screw up a LOT of people.
> >> If you took away OSX or WiXP it would screw up a lot of people, too.
But
> >> point taken about the growing importance of certain web sites.
> >>
> >> OTOH, I like the concept of having local data rather than throwing my
> >> data out onto a network.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Now then, a remote control is a revolutionary way to get people in
touch
> >>> with information and entertainment? Remember what Jamie Zawinski said,
> > if
> >>> you want to know what software is going to be popular, think if it
will
> > help
> >>> a 20 year old college student in his dorm room get laid. Google,
> > MySpace,
> >>> BitTorrnet and YouTube . . .
> >> ...and iTunes/iPhoto (music, pics and video) with remote control,
> >> perfect in a dorm room.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Jamie
> >> www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >>> TCB
> >>>
> >>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hey Thad,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm curious, what of OSX is "busy bubbling gunk" and what is
functional
> >>>> yet aesthetic presentation of useful UI elements?
> >>>>
> >>>> I realize you don't actually work with OSX, but what I see every day
is
> >>>> more the latter than the former.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you involved in the GUI initiatives on Linux in order to prevent
> > the
> >>>> creation of an unmitigated disaster along the lines of your
impression
> >>>> of
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Mon, 13 November 2006 05:27 |
brandon[2]
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OSX? :^)
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, clearly Apple actually has been a leader, in some areas, in
> >>>> connecting people to info and entertainment: iTunes, iPods, their
> > remote
> >>>> control thingie (and perhaps the upcoming iTV).
> >>>>
> >>>> Not to take anything away from Microsoft and their XBox strategy - or
> >>> >from Google, Bittorent, YouTube or MySpace, ranging from providing
> >>>> value-added services to exploiting content producers and encouraging
> >>>> theft to drive ad sales or build value. On a pure technical level,
for
> >>>> content distribution the Bittorent approach is compelling.
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh, and you forgot AOL. ;^)
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> -Jamie
> >>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> TCB wrote:
> >>>>> From what I've seen of Vista it's nothing to write home about. But
if
> >>> MSoft
> >>>>> was looking to strive for a better GUI (Vista isn't about a better
> > GUI,
> >>> IMHO,
> >>>>> it's about a more lucrative way to screw your customers) I'd suggest
> > they
> >>>>> aim higher than the busy, bubbling gunk that is OS X.FurryFeline.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But my guess is that Vista will be the end of the 'OS wars.' Sun had
> > it
> >>> right
> >>>>> (just way ahead of their time, which is nearly as bad as being
late),
> >>> the
> >>>>> computer is the network. Neither Apple nor MSoft has been a leader
in
> >>> providing
> >>>>> new and exiting ways to connect people with information or
> > entertainment.
> >>>>> Bittorrent, Google, YouTube, MySpace. Repeat after me, Bittorrent,
> > Google,
> >>>>> YouTube, MySpace . . .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> TCB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> The truth leaks out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >
http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootix
> >
> >Hi James,
Awesome. It's funny that it takes a little share guy to manage to come
out with a potentially useful CD/editing mastering program. And nice
and cheap to boot. It looks like some old win98se share stuff though:).
For $80.00 who cares lol. If this thing works well he's gonna have a hit.
Chris
James McCloskey wrote:
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2006/XO-Audio-XO-Wave-0 .19.0.html
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762"Neil" <IOUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Gene... what type of remote recording are you doing with
>your laptop, mostly? Live bands at clubs & festivals? Nearby
>symphony orchestras with a lotta spot-micing?
>
>Sound
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Mon, 13 November 2006 06:51 |
Ted Gerber
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s like you have a serious out-of-studio setup there.
>
>Neil
>
Running my MacBook Pro to see how far I could push it was primarily academic.
For my own production work 48 is typical with occasional songs going into
the 80-90-track range.
I don’t do a lot of traditional remote work. (I did when I was young.)
I have started many tracks in commercial studios over the years, and still
do. With this setup I can bring my laptop with reference tracks and click
tracks already prepped and just plug into the house converters and go. At
end of session unplug and leave.
I also wanted to take “works in progress” with me for editing, arranging
and even adding new parts when I’m away from my home setup. This is where
the power is important. If I am working on a song with 50 tracks and I want
to add a VSTI part or two, previous generations of laptops would fail. On
a recent session I was re-arranging the song on my laptop while the first
passes of the recording were starting. I had a new version of the song ready
with both tracks and sheet music to pass to the studios Pro Tools HD rig
and musicians in just a few minutes.
And when I’m at home I have one more very powerful computer that can be a
Logic Node, a rack of soft synths, or 20 convolution reverbs.
GeneWhenever you decide to upgrade, you'll be amazed. For example, any of
the current core 2 duo Intel Macs should be faster than what I use. And
the dual G5 I use is already fast enough to handle all the tracks, FX
and soft synths I've thrown at it.
The next jump is likely to be an 8 core Intel system. Apple's version
could be officially announced as early as next month. Should be able to
handle all your tracks/FX/synths, cook dinner, mow the lawn, cure
cancer, fix that leaky faucet, remodel the attic, beat you at chess and
come up with a unified field theory all at the same time...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Mike R. wrote:
> Hey Jamie
> I've been running Logic on an old (1998 I think) Mac clone. Recently a
> friend gave me a good deal on a G4 which I've been running Cubase on.
> Generally I record and mix on Paris in a PC. My Cubase projects have been
> really teeny to date, but I tried to get 16 tracks up last night -just
> audio, no effects -and it was starting to crackel. I'd love to be able to
> run a dual G5. I imagine I could get pretty much all my tracks going on a
> larger faster machine -synths, FX, tracks. I figure I'm gonna stick with my
> setup for another year or two and then sink some cash into something that
> will allow me to get it all done ITB, Being spread out over several
> computers I can only glimpse how effecient the creative process will be for
> me. Sounds like its been a real boost for you. I can't wait.
> Cheers,
> MR
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4580b48c@linux...
>> Hey Mike,
>>
>> Systems that allow for both, I agree.
>>
>> You're right that a lot of common tasks are fine on older boxes. Word
>> processing, web browsing, email. Although some apps have bloated up to
>> the point that they feel better on more recent computers.
>>
>> Speaking of Atari, that takes me back. My old Ataris were great for
>> MIDI. My old Amigas opened up a world of video production (live
>> switching and deck control) and animation. The NeXT was an amazing
>> graphics and development box. BeOS was on its way to greatness with
>> media production when it was criminally run over and left to die.
>>
>> Back to the present, the dual G5 is helpful and even necessary for some
>> of the high bandwidth tasks that have found a home here, like complex
>> synth/FX plugins, updated animation/graphics apps and hard drive based
>> HiDef video editing. With all these CPU cycles handy, this box and its
>> apps are doing the job it used to take several racks of gear to do, if
>> it could be done at all, so it's saving me a bunch of money and
>> expanding my capabilities.
>>
>> The overall OSX foundation and GUI is fairly well thought out and
>> usable. I wouldn't say it's perfect but it's better than the current
>> alternatives for what I do.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Mike R. wrote:
>>> Hey Jamie,
>>> I appreciated reading both your comments and TCB's. A couple of things
> came
>>> to mind. I too struggle with local versus network based data. I think
> its
>>> important to "have" systems that allow for both. To the second thought,
> I
>>> find it kind of wierd that so many users (me too) buy into the latest
> and
>>> greatest. Especially when so many of the most common computer based
> tasks
>>> can still be accomplished on pre 21st century soft and hard ware. I not
>>> trying in the slightest to dis any particular product or approach, and
> Lord
>>> knows (though I doubt He cares) I DO run and enjoy some 2000-plus tech,
> but
>>> I got 13 years of productive music making out of my Atari running at
> what
>>> was it ... 8mhz. Still kicks my butt when I think about it.
>>> MR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45805d88@linux...
>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>> My #1 nomination for busy, bubbling gunk is the Dock, which
> mysteriously
>>> fills
>>>>> up with every single application that is ever installed on the
> machine.
>>>> The dock is not mandatory, but I find it handy. Given your opinions, if
>>>> you actually used OSX you'd probably soon figure out how to make it
> more
>>>> useful and less intrusive for you (system prefs/dock).
>>>>
>>>> I haven't noticed apps I install appearing there unless I put them
>>>> there, other than the apps that come pre-installed.
>>>>
>>>> FYI you can simply drag off any that you don't want there.
>>>>
>>>> You can drag those remaining into any order you lik
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Mon, 13 November 2006 07:37 |
Nil
Messages: 245
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web browser, a media player,
>>> some
>>>>> 'office' applications, an email (and maybe news/rss) reader, and a few
>>> extras.
>>>> Yep, those can all be open source: TBird, Firefox,
> OpenOffice/NeoOffice,
>>>> and VLC are a few I use on OSX.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For me those extras are audio apps, a command line, and a development
>>> environment.
>>>>> For you they might be an image editor and a video editor.
>>>> Same as what you mentioned plus a variety of animation software.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, for a window manager (which is what most people mean by an
>>> OS
>>>>> anyway) I like Gnome. It's simple, it runs quickly on almost any
>>> hardware.
>>>>> The 'stock' install on Debian includes a drop down menu for all the
>>> applications
>>>>> installed, a bar where I can drop quick launch icons for the five apps
> I
>>>>> use all the time, a shortcut to the root filesystem and my home
>>> directory,
>>>>> and a trash can.
>>>> You could, with training (grin), set up the OSX dock to do that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> When I need directions, I go to google maps no matter what OS I'm
> using.
>>>>> When I want to see a replay of the Michael Essien goal that took a
> point
>>>>> from Arsenal on Sunday I go to YouTube. When I want to watch the whole
>>> game
>>>>> I fire up Azereus and download two VCD ISOs via BitTorrent. If I
> forget
>>> the
>>>>> name of the guy who assassinated McKinley I go to wikipedia. If I'm
>>> going
>>>>> to write code I use Eclipse or Emacs. The first time in my day I'm
>>> restricted
>>>>> IN ANY WAY by the OS is when I start doing music creation and there
>>> aren't
>>>>> apps I find useful enough on linux so I'm stuck using one of the less
>>> attractive
>>>>> operating systems so I can use Live, SX, and so on. But in that I'm an
>>> exception.
>>>>> Most people could spend 100% of their computing lives using any OS if
> it
>>>>> had the basic apps I mentioned above.
>>>> Yep, although OS snobs like us would find reasons to prefer one over
>>>> another. And I have a variety of reasons to prefer OSX at this time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> People talk about whether there will be a 'Google platform' some day.
>>> There
>>>>> already IS a google platform, in the sense that if Apple switched
> their
>>> (really
>>>>> irritating) file browser for the (actually better) XP file browser it
>>> wouldn't
>>>>> really matter, but if you took away google maps (or MySpace, or
>>> Facebook,
>>>>> etc) it wou
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Mon, 13 November 2006 07:55 |
Rod Lincoln
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ar as the college student, I could tell you some personal stories, but
>I'll save that, and just say that I know personally that a Mac can take
a
>college student places; )
>
>>TCB
>>
>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Thad,
>>>
>>>I'm curious, what of OSX is "busy bubbling gunk" and what is functional
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>>>yet aesthetic presentation of useful UI elements?
>>>
>>>I realize you don't actually work with OSX, but what I see every day is
>>
>>>more the latter than the former.
>>>
>>>Are you involved in the GUI initiatives on Linux in order to prevent the
>>
>>>creation of an unmitigated disaster along the lines of your impression
>
>>>of OSX? :^)
>>>
>>>Also, clearly Apple actually has been a leader, in some areas, in
>>>connecting people to info and entertainment: iTunes, iPods, their remote
>>
>>>control thingie (and perhaps the upcoming iTV).<
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Rod Lincoln
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>>>
>>>Not to take anything away from Microsoft and their XBox strategy - or
>>>from Google, Bittorent, YouTube or MySpace, ranging from providing
>>>value-added services to exploiting content producers and encouraging
>>>theft to drive ad sales or build value. On a pure technical level, for
>
>>>content distribution the Bittorent approach is compelling.
>>>
>>>Oh, and you forgot AOL. ;^)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>> From what I've seen of Vista it's nothing to write home about. But if
>>MSoft
>>>> was looking to strive for a better GUI (Vista isn't about a better GUI,
>>IMHO,
>>>> it's about a more lucrative way to screw your customers) I'd suggest
>they
>>>> aim higher than the busy, bubbling gunk that is OS X.FurryFeline.
>>>>
>>>> But my guess is that Vista will be the end of the 'OS wars.' Sun had
>it
>>right
>>>> (just way ahead of their time, which is nearly as bad as being late),
>>the
>>>> computer is the network. Neither Apple nor
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! - OK, here's my assessments & also the answers [message #75932 is a reply to message #75920] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 08:14 |
DJ
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MSoft has been a leader in
>>providing
>>>> new and exiting ways to connect people with information or entertainment.
>>>> Bittorrent, Google, YouTube, MySpace. Repeat after me, Bittorrent, Google,
>>>> YouTube, MySpace . . .
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The truth leaks out.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/12/apple-microsoft-mac-tech-cz _dl_1212mac.html?partner=yahootix
>>>>
>>
>Yes like most cool things on Linux it's free.
James McCloskey wrote:
> Well, I guess I should point out that this is also available for Linux, and
> it's free.
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> Hi James,
>> Awesome. It's funny that it takes a little share guy to manage to come
>> out with a potentially useful CD/editing mastering program. And nice
>> and cheap to boot. It looks like some old win98se share stuff though:).
>
>> For $80.00 who cares lol. If this thing works well he's gonna have a hit.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2006/XO-Audio-XO-Wave-0 .19.0.html
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comI, for one, welcome our ubergeek overlords. But as a member of the
ubergeek overlords, you're overthinking this one.
Your OSX dock objections seem trivial given that your main hangup is
something you could turn off easily.
"Learning" the dock takes about five seconds. I'll sign you up for
classes if you like, they're on Tuesday from 1pm to 1:00:05pm... ;^)
BTW, from my experience on development projects, ubergeeks are very
likely not the best UI designers for geek-challenged folks.
Which is not to say Apple's designers always do the right thing or that
there aren't other ways to design a useful dock.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> The Dock is a tool to launch applications quickly. Why, oh why, should I
> need to 'learn' anything to use a quick application launcher? All of the
> eye candy was designed by someone with an agenda to make things bubbly and
> pretty, which might make sense from a marketing perspective but if it causes
> someone as familiar with computers as I am to find it annoying it's bad design.
> Forgive me a little conceit here but I'd guess I'm easily in the top 5% worldwide
> when it comes to skill using computers, so I'll do the 'right' thing a lot
> more often than most people, so I don't think I should need to spend significant
> amounts of time customizing something as simple as an application launcher.
>
>
> It's like years ago when some early version of Windows Media Player changed
> the aspect ratio of a video when the window was resized. Yes, there was a
> key command (L if I remember) to keep the aspect ratio, but it was much more
> sensible and easy if it did what everyone should expect it to do in the first
> place, which is keep the aspect ratio in the first place.Yay! I finally spent money on something other than PARIS that was worth a
damn! (Maybe I should have just bought a UPS instead of getting married/divorced?)
Mark
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Power company won. ;o)
>
>UPS lasts at least half an hour...
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>That UPS seems to work. Thanks guys...
>>
>>...now the power company is racing the UPS... will they get it back up
>>or will we go offline? ;o)
>Somebody finally got the speakers up off the console!!
Yeah!
Now they just need to make the tops of those racks acoustically
diffusive or transparent, and you could almost do some work in
there.
DC
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I thought I would post this. I always thought Nigel B. studio
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| Re: Summing Comparison Files Posted! - OK, here's my assessments & also the answers [message #75933 is a reply to message #75911] |
Wed, 11 October 2006 08:17 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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furniture
was
>great stuff, but check this out. http://www.akadesign.co.uk/
>
>The furniture you can buy is one thing, but the custom work they have done
>is something else, wow! The site is a little funny to navigate. From the
>menu bar at the top, the sub categories appear below. Select from the sub
>categories, then the pictures from the numbered boxes on the left of the
>screen, then select each picture to the right of the main picture to see
>all of them.
>
>Under facilities, check out Space Studios, it look likes something strait
>from a si-fi movie set. The designs rock!
>
>Warning! These pictures might give you wood, or just some crazy ideas for
>your studio.
>
>JamesThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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I have some wav files that were recorded in Live 5. I can't, however, load
them into Paris. Well, it loads them, but only as files that are 2k big.
The original files are on the order of tens of megabytes. And, does anyone
know where I can find AudioX's "Auto Add" program? I can't locate audiox
anywhere on the net.
Thanks
MR
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Hoov
Mike R. wrote:
> I have some wav files that were recorded in Live 5. I can't, however, load
> them into Paris. Well, it loads t
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