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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64826 is a reply to message #64806] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 23:01   |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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>> I'm trying to figure out if I can set up a P4 system with 3 EDS cards
and
>> an RME HDSP9652 in a Zalman fanless case, the objective being to allow
>> recording in the control room area (some of my clients don't like being
in
>> an iso booth). Will my components fuse together in a molten ball of
copper
>> ?
>>
>> Anyone tried this before ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Stewart.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>With the size of the cards, and how close they sit to each
other, I don't think it would be too practical. If it were
one circuit board it may work, but not with the two stuck
together.
David.
Sound Dog wrote:
> Would it be feasible to cool them using heat pipes do you think ?
>
> Stewart.
>
> EK Sound wrote in message <442d6a00@linux>...
>
>>EDS cards will overheat if there is no forced ventilation. They get
>>EXTREMELY hot, and with 3 in one case, you will have no end of pops
>>and crackles in your audio.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Sound Dog wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Does anyone know how hot EDS cards are supposed to get ? Mine get up to
>>>similar temperatures to video cards, that is, just about too hot to
>
> touch -
>
>>>is this normal ?
>>>
>>>I'm trying to figure out if I can set up a P4 system with 3 EDS cards
>
> and
>
>>>an RME HDSP9652 in a Zalman fanless case, the objective being to allow
>>>recording in the control room area (some of my clients don't like being
>
> in
>
>>>an iso booth). Will my components fuse together in a molten ball of
>
> copper
>
>>>?
>>>
>>>Anyone tried this before ?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Stewart.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>Just now finished installing it on my Receptor for live use. I'll be firing
it up tomorrow morning - can't wait!!!
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I've had an absolutely wonderful pianist over here for a session tonight
>doing some cover tunes. He's got a Yamaha controller with some nice piano
>sounds and was pretty leery of using a VSTi so we started out using his
>keyboard DI'ed. I also midi'ed him up to Ivory and started tracking both
>Ivory and the Yammy into Paris. Then I A/B'ed the tracks for him and after
>about an hour I couldn't get the guy to stay focused on the session he was
>so wrapped up in it. Luckily, the artist who hired him was pretty forgiving
>of the waste of session time and we got to enjoy some pretty inspired
>noodling around...............on the clock of course. I'd say the session
>went 3 hours over because of Ivory so it came close to paying for itself
in
>one gig.
>
>This VSTi is truly amazing in the hands of a great player with a great
>controller. I forget which Yamaha controller he was using, but it was an
>older one with fully weighted keys and complemented Ivory to a tee.
>
>(yawn......off to bed now..........ta!)
>
>;o).
>
>
>
>
>Once you get your optimum velocity curve dialed in, you're gonna be grinnin
like a cheshire cat.
;o)
"Phil Aiken" <paiken@partners.org> wrote in message news:442e00d7$1@linux...
>
> Just now finished installing it on my Receptor for live use. I'll be
firing
> it up tomorrow morning - can't wait!!!
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I've had an absolutely wonderful pianist over here for a session tonight
> >doing some cover tunes. He's got a Yamaha controller with some nice piano
> >sounds and was pretty leery of using a VSTi so we started out using his
> >keyboard DI'ed. I also midi'ed him up to Ivory and started tracking both
> >Ivory and the Yammy into Paris. Then I A/B'ed the tracks for him and
after
> >about an hour I couldn't get the guy to stay focused on the session he
was
> >so wrapped up in it. Luckily, the artist who hired him was pretty
forgiving
> >of the waste of session time and we got to enjoy some pretty inspired
> >noodling around...............on the clock of course. I'd say the session
> >went 3 hours over because of Ivory so it came close to paying for itself
> in
> >one gig.
> >
> >This VSTi is truly amazing in the hands of a great player with a great
> >controller. I forget which Yamaha controller he was using, but it was an
> >older one with fully weighted keys and complemented Ivory to a tee.
> >
> >(yawn......off to bed now..........ta!)
> >
> >;o).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Where did you find this?
Excellent. Saved it. Gonna print it and put it up in the studio.
The girlfriend will definately get it: men are pretty simple.
MR
(Although, I might Photoshop it and put the "man" section on the
bottom -closer to reality.)
"James" <no@noway.com> wrote in message news:442ccbc2$1@linux...
>
>any single canadian women looking for a soon to be
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64839 is a reply to message #64826] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 08:39 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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lugins inserted as opposed to inserting analogue gear into a
straight
> Paris mix. I'm definitely leaning toward the Paris/analogue mix. Even with
> all of the processing power available and having the Paris summing bus,
> something about the hybrid mix just sound smaller. Maybe it's the
truncation
> that happens when 40+ tracks that are being processed at 32 bit in SX are
> flown over a 20 bit ADAT pipe. I dunno
>
> I know there are lots of advantages to having the editing power of SX and
I
> did use it a lot in my last project. As far as plugins go, I'm getting
> something that suits me just fine using analog processors in Paris. Are
they
> emulations of LA-2A's or 1176's.......well nooooo.........but I've got a
> couple of Distressors, a couple of RNC's which output at +4 and are
balanced
> with 1:1 Jensen and Cinemags.They sound great and the comps in my Avalon
> 737, Meek VC-1, Forssell CS-1 and Focusrite RED7 channel strips do a good
> job inserted on tracks, plus there's an SPL Transient designer for kick,
an
> SPL de-esser and an old TL Audio tube EQ here. Patching this stuff into a
> mix just seems to bring it to life in a way I'm not hearing in a hybrid
mix.
> Add the Paris plugs and it's a pretty decent mix arsenal. If I sold 3 x
> UAD-1 cards and my HDSP 9652's, I could likely afford another nice
> compressor or two.........maybe an ELOP or something.
>
> Actually, I really wouldn't mind having two more Distressors. I may just
do
> this. The only thing I'm gonna miss is instant recall, but hell, I've got
a
> damn digital camera around here somewhere.
>
> I think I've given the monster hybrid DAW thing a fair chance. It sounds
> good, but I'm just not sold on it. I've worked my ass off putting it
> together and getting it to work properly and I think part of my reluctance
> to let it go is the many hours spent learning how to use this thing.
>
> I dunno. decisions......decisions.........
>
>Doesn't seem to matter whether the ASIO direct monitoring is on or off in
totalmix and what's really wierd is it doesn't seem to matter whether or not
Cubase SX is even timeline synced. Apparently, it's seeing the incoming
audio (and I would assume the clock associated with it) and the PDC in SX is
automatically playing the audio ahead in time by the amount of delay it's
automatically compensating. I know this sounds impossible, but it seems to
be happening.........errrr.........well it actually *is happening. I just
checked it by processing a pair of kic tracks trrough a pair of 1176's and
recorded the returns to a stereoi pair of Paris tracks. Placing them side by
side, they are exactly lined up on the timeline and the only reason they
won't phase cancel is because the processed tracks are now louder, having
been processed by the 1176's.
This is so strange.........I think I may need to go to sleep and wake up in
the morning and see if this was some kind of hallucination.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:442f73f8@linux...
> I tried this about a year ago and then blew it off because it didn't seem
to
> be working. Just for the hell of it, I just did it again. Basically, in a
> nutshell, what appears to be happening......and get this......I can take
> track from Paris, create an insert through an ADAT I/O, send this signal
> from the ADAT output of paris to an ADAT input of an RME card. Now I open
> Cubase SX and create an audio channel and set the channel's ADAT I/O to
the
> RME input that is receiving the ADAT signal from the Paris insert send.
Then
> I set this Cubase audio channel output to send through an adat output
which
> is connected to the Paris insert return. Next I drop a UAD-1 1176 (or
> whatever) in the insert slot of the Cubase channel, making sure that ASIO
> direct monitoring is disabled in Cubase SX but *enabled* in the RME HDSP
> Totalmix applet (not sure yet if this makes any difference.....I'll know
> more as I experiment with it. When I hit play on the Paris transport,
Paris
> sends ADAT sync to Cubase and the applications lock up their timelines and
> play back in sync. The thing that is blowing me away is that apparently,
the
> Cubase PDC *sees* this incoming timecode and actually plays back the audio
> that is being processed through the UAD-1 plugin sample
> accurately....effectively providing plugin delay compensation of UAD-1
> plugins in Paris.
>
> Since it didn't work a year ago, I'm wondering why it's working now. Maybe
> it has something to do with leaving the ASIIO direct monitoring enabled in
> Totalmix, but not in SX......or maybe it was just a bug in the SX PDC. I'm
> going to play around with this some more, but it sure is cool to be able
to
> insert a Pultec and an 1176 on a drum track that is being streamed from
> Paris. It will also (theoretically) be possible to bus an entire Paris
drum
> submix to soimething like a stereo Fairchild and return it to a stereo
pair
> of Paris tracks.
>
> This would be a nice way to keep the mix in Paris, but to still process
> certain tracks with UAD processors if needed.
>
> Hmmmm.........
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:442f665c@linux...
> > I've been A/B'ing some mixes here, comparing the sonics of flying the
> tracks
> > across the digital matrix from Cubase SX to Paris and having a bunch of
> > UAD-1 plugins inserted as opposed to inserting analogue gear into a
> straight
> > Paris mix. I'm definitely leaning toward the Paris/analogue mix. Even
with
> > all of the processing power available and having the Paris summing bus,
> > something about the hybrid mix just sound smaller. Maybe it's the
> truncation
> > that happens when 40+ tracks that are being processed at 32 bit in SX
are
> > flown over a 20 bit ADAT pipe. I dunno
> >
> > I know there are lots of advantages to having the editing power of SX
and
> I
> > did use it a lot in my last project. As far as plugins go, I'm getting
> > something that suits me just fine using analog processors in Paris. Are
> they
> > emulations of LA-2A's or 1176's.......well nooooo.........but I've got a
> > couple of Distressors, a couple of RNC's which output at +4 and are
> balanced
> > with 1:1 Jensen and Cinemags
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64870 is a reply to message #64839] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 14:42 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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ny difference.....I'll
> know
>> >> > more as I experiment with it. When I hit play on the Paris
>> >> > transport,
>> >> Paris
>> >> > sends ADAT sync to Cubase and the applications lock up their
> timelines
>> >and
>> >> > play back in sync. The thing that is blowing me away is that
> apparently,
>> >> the
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