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| Re: SOT: 2 Buss Drum Compression [message #79870 is a reply to message #79858] |
Sat, 10 February 2007 19:05   |
duncan
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ne, then a lot of the time you end up with EVERYTHING running
through that console... your cues, your playback, your mix outs
to the Alesis Masterlink (or whatever you're using), that kick
drum going through the Neve-alike mic pre that you wouldn't
have EQ'ed before you had the desk, but now you have it so
you'll patch into channel 22's line-in & boost a little 4k
before you hit the convertors.
IOW, it really DOES become your sonic signature, so you may as
well get a damn good one that not only sounds great from
input to playback, but will also earn it's keep by helping to
bring you business even when it's just sitting there looking
impressive, flying it's brand flag for the potential clients
coming by to see the place.
Otherwise if you've got killer mic pres & outboard in sufficient
enough quantities to get the jobs done, you're probably better
off getting a small, inexpensive mixer just for monitoring &
keeping if off to the side so it's not the centerpiece.
Neil
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>In my biz, I would not loose a client over these issues. They don't know
what
>neumann is, or pro tools, or any of that stuff and they don't really care.
>They just want the jingle I produce to bring them more business. As far
as
>the bands, if you have a neumann in the studio and pro tools L.E. They usually
>just say "Oh! you have pro tools and neumann mics... cool, I heard of them"
>FWIW
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Neil" <oiUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>That is the problem with the biz. So you aren't shit unless >you got
>an
>>>SSL and a full blown ProTools system.
>>>
>>>Did I say an SSL? No, I suggested an older lower-range Trident;
>>>it's going to sound a fuckload better from input to mixdown than,
>>>any Tascam I've ever heard AND it's got a name people recognize
>>>as being top-shelf.
>>>
>>>>I guess it depends on what you want to do. A lot comes down to
>>>>engineering skills.
>>>
>>>1.) You really don't "need" a console these days - what, with
>>>most people preferring to mix & match external mic pres &
>>>channel strips anyway.
>>>
>>>2.) If you DO get a console, it then becomes the focus of your
>>>room, and your rack of massenburg, neve, and API preamps takes
>>>an immediate back seat; and because lots of clients are brand-
>>>aware, you'd better make it a good desk, otherwise you may find
>>>your "investment" may actually cost you gigs.
>>>
>>>Isallimsayin.
>>>
>>
>>The SSL PT thing was a figure of speech, well maybe not. I have had people
>>actually say this many times. I guess my point is, it depends on what
level
>>you
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| Re: SOT: 2 Buss Drum Compression [message #79877 is a reply to message #79876] |
Sun, 11 February 2007 04:35 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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PAM.gr" target="_blank">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A>>=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:46054958$1@linux">news:46054958$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>He =
nice=20
idea !!<BR>Come on Aaron take a week here in Greece, I am 20 minutes =
away from=20
great<BR>beaches ! for summer vacation.<BR>I have a very nice studio=20
too...<BR><BR>Regarding senderella Tom,<BR>I don't know why your =
chainer does=20
not save !!<BR>I have made many presets with chainer.<BR>It loads as =
vst from=20
within Paris and saves as normal vst Paris driven plugin<BR>with save =
and then=20
scroll down copy to library...<BR>This is extremely stable no Paris =
crshes and=20
yes senderella is ONLY vst !<BR>No dx here only vst.<BR>I remember =
some old=20
testings but now we have faderworks and more stable Paris<BR>with XP =
by=20
disabling DX !<BR>I am sure DX is causing many problems to =
Paris.<BR>I=20
am making a project default with 64 chainer instances with 8=20
senderella<BR>auxes inside chainer and a faderworks instance with =
latency=20
compensation<BR>for all 4 eds cards !<BR>You know 14 samples from =
card1 to 2=20
and two samples thereafter, so when O<BR>load a new project all 4 eds =
cards=20
are alligned , faderworks is there to<BR>delay compensate any further =
plugins=20
and have 8 senderella auxes for DX auxing<BR>!<BR>I can send the =
preset=20
default (I don't know if it opens with Paris if you<BR>don't have 4=20
cards).<BR>Tom ask me what you want to take you thee where I =
am...<BR>This=20
also applies to the rest of you !<BR>It is not that difficult !<BR>If =
you make=20
a default project with all applied then you can work as if you<BR>were =
with a=20
Paris 4 version !<BR>]Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR>Paul Artola <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:artola@comcast.net">artola@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>Whew! A lot of information to wrap my brain around. I =
think it=20
is time<BR>>for Paris DVD - Part 2, starring Dimitrios. Hey Aaron! =
Up for a=20
week<BR>>in Greece?<BR>><BR>>- Paul Artola<BR>> =
Ellicott=20
City, Maryland<BR>><BR>>On 25 Mar 2007 01:17:27 +1000, =
"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@NOSPotenet.>@.gr">musurgio@NOSPotenet.>@.gr</A>>=
<BR>>wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>Hi, <BR>>>I=20
am glad there are 5-6 Paris users willing to test and work along=20
with<BR>senderella<BR>>>and Paris and as a matter of fact with =
making=20
Paris a better daw...<BR>>>I wish though that all yiou Paris =
users and=20
posters here would jump on<BR>because<BR>>>this would make =
things better=20
for all of us...<BR>>><BR>>>So Senderella really works =
great=20
!<BR>>><BR>>>FIRST OF ALL you have to put a line in your =
Paris cfg=20
:<BR>>>EDSTransfer=3D8,8<BR>>>Then... <BR>>>1) If you =
work=20
16bit file you need a 16bit empty track , you can make =
this<BR>>>just by=20
recording nothing for say 6 minutes and then name it=20
16bit_emptyfile.<BR>>>If you work 24 bit then you need a 24 bit =
empty=20
file.<BR>>>NOTE that you must send 16bit files over to an empty =
16bit=20
file and 24bit<BR>>>to an empty 24bits.<BR>>>OK you may =
ask what=20
is this empty thing needed ?<BR>>>Well this is for SUMMING the=20
senderella sends ,this means that wherever<BR>you<BR>>>put the=20
senderella as a RETURN (SUMMING AUX) there you have to put an=20
empty<BR>>>file.<BR>>><BR>>>2)Senderella has a =
redirect=20
option which means you can eather let the sending<BR>>>track to =
continue=20
sounding on main mix OR muting it by redirecting, =
so<BR>that<BR>>>it=20
only goes to senderella return.<BR>>><BR>>>3) You can have =
64=20
auxes !<BR>>><BR>>>4) This is submix =
crossable.&l
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| Re: SOT: 2 Buss Drum Compression [message #79933 is a reply to message #79858] |
Mon, 12 February 2007 09:34 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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