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OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78879] Tue, 23 January 2007 11:30 Go to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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>>>>>>>>>Any of these would work in that budget and give you the cuemix controls
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>similar to Presonus and RME.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1x MOTU 8Pre
>>>>>>>>>1x Presonus Digimax FS
>>>>>>>>>$1080.00
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Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78882 is a reply to message #78879] Tue, 23 January 2007 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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;>>>> 2G Ram
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 10k rpm OS drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 10k rpm Audio drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 7200 rpm maxtor for the OS temp file only. (would I be
> better
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out this?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 firewire card w/TI chipset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78883 is a reply to message #78882] Tue, 23 January 2007 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is your setup going to be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well my entire PARIS rig is on its way to Connect-icut.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New gear on its way..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been watchinbg the Cubase tutorials and man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that softwaer has tons of functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuff I used to dream of and dint know really existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got a Firewire card and a memory upgrade on the way too.
>>>>>>>>>&
Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78884 is a reply to message #78883] Tue, 23 January 2007 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;>>>>>>>>> I am excited to get into it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will let you all know how it is going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ADK
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>>>> ADK
>>>>>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>> ADK
>>>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>&
Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78885 is a reply to message #78883] Tue, 23 January 2007 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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gt; (859) 635-5762
>That's what I'm referring to when I describe my Multiface. It is a Nuendo
branded Multiface called the Multiset. Same thing as the original Multiface.
My ADI8-DS units are also Nuendo branded as well. You can often find these
on an EBay search using Nuendo as the keyword. Sometimes the owners don't
know to list these under an RME keyword as well and there are fewer folks
watching them/less bidding competition. I picked up one of my Nuendo branded
ADI8-DS units for $550.00 last week. The RME branded (same) units are going
for quite a bit more on EBay and, to my knowledge, there is no difference
other than the badging. In any event, they sound great.

Deej


"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
news:45db2a97@linux...
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks, I'm keeping my eyes open on ebay!
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC
>
> Paul Artola wrote:
>> TC -
>>
>> I have recently been reworking my studio and along the way I picked up
>> a pair of Steinberg/RME Multisets (another name for the original
>> Multiface) and a single PCI HDSP card. I got the Multisets off ebay -
>> one for $200 and the other for $300. The PCI card cost $240. These
>> make a killer combination for the money, I think.
>>
>> - Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, MarylandWell, that was a subject of another long sad post of mine. Basically the
room stinks, low cielings, small, rectangular. Can't really be treated because
it's the family rec room.

The instrument I like alot, but it's a small yamaha student upright. It
doesn't mic well, based on surroundings mostly, probably limitations of the
technician, lord knows I tried for months to get a decent sound on tape.


That's when I got the brilliant idea to go with giga for pianos, and man
the sound was great but that lead to needing an 88 key weighted controller,
a search that took forever. Then giga worked but it wasn't integrated with
cubase and I couldn't stand that because it just got to complicated when
all I wanted to do was take ten minutes and record a song real quick. Then
I got the brilliant idea to try halion, and import my gigas, which worked
ok, but in the end I could never get acceptable, playable latencies in that
environment using the presonus.

In the end it's all so stupid and ridiculous that I gave up, which bums me
out, because I think I am approaching writing some decent songs.

Chuck

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Man, that is a sad story Chuck.
>
>Maybe you should get a stand alone recorder next to your piano.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieK
Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78886 is a reply to message #78883] Tue, 23 January 2007 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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rutz.com
>
>
>chuck duffy wrote:
>> I hear you man. It kills me, because I am normally deep voodoo uncommonly
>> good at solving software, hardware and driver problems.
>>
>> I'm glad all of you guys have solid rigs, but my cubase, firewire experience
>> has left me never wanting to touch a computer again. I honestly get a
pit
>> in my stomache when I think about recording. And it aint just pre-sonus.
>> I have been through so much crap with this shit that it kills me. I
had
>> a little midiman keyboard with lots of faders and knobs and stuff that
was
>> perfect for B4, had a working template that mapped everything to the draw
>> pulls and knobs on the B4.
>>
>> Loved it. Then the USB quit working. So I switched to the conventional
>> MIDI port, then the keys started breaking. So I switched to an edirol
with
>> lots of knobs and faders. No mapping for B4. Spent two days learning
how
>> to create the mapping, saved the template to the device.
>>
>> Things were fine, then the template mysteriously disappeared from the
keyboard,
>> so I reloaded, then it stopped retaining settings completely when powered
>> down. For a little while I wresled with re-loading the template from
disk
>> to the device every time I wanted to play. I memorized the 13 keystrokes
>> required, but then didn't play for a while and forgot, broke out the manual
>> and said f*** it and gave up.
>>
>> A critical hard drive died, without backup and I lost half my projects
that
>> I wanted to finish after a 10 year hiatus from actually doing any serious
>> recording. 10% of the ones that I didn't loose are corrupt paris projects
>> for whatever reason.
>>
>> Got a new computer, reloaded paris JUST TO EXPORT and fought with 1/1
initialization
>> for half a day. Then got it running and faced the real world for a couple
>> of weeks, returned to find that the demo had expired and I couldn't find
>> antipace.
>>
>> Went to use GIGA on the new computer and worked through their warped re-authorization
>> process that involved me removing hacking the registry for everything
I had
>> just re-installed. Figured out how to get the GSIF drivers working and
outputing
>> SPDIF from an ECHO MIA. Couldn't reliably get the pre-sonus and MIA to
sync
>> with sp/dif so gave up and decided to go analog.
>>
>> Got it working and noticed that the piano sounded like absolute shit.<
Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78889 is a reply to message #78885] Tue, 23 January 2007 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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in the audio realm?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>> Actually, two different laptops using the on-board fire-wire and with
a
>>> PCMCIA
>>>> firewire interface. One desktop using on-board firewire and PCI firewire.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sorry you're having so much trouble with it, Chuck. Maybe I'm just
getting
>>>>> lucky, or maybe the hardware is scared of not working around me. Are
you
>>>>> using it on a desktop or laptop?
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thad,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know about the general opinion, since I haven't done much
research,
>>>>>> but my personal experience with the Firepod has been a disaster.
Snaps,
>>>>>> crackles, pops, lockups, usable only at unplayable latencies (figure
>> that
>>>>>> out :-)). Two different computers, three different chipsets, all
the
>>> driver
>>>>>> revs. Extremely inflexible live monitoring, lack of panning when
used
>>>> in
>>>>>> standalone mode. The list goes on and on, and I've basically given
up
>>>> on
>>>>>> recording because I can't afford the time or the money to research
and
>>>> buy
>>>>>> something different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> But there seems to be this general opinion that there is something
'wrong'
>>>>>>> with the driver in all cases. Needing to have the right chipset for
>> an
>>>>> esoteric
>>>>>>> third party add-on is a mild pain and something that should be known,
>>>> but
>>>>>>> the idea that the Presonus gear doesn't work correctly or has 'bad
drivers'
>>>>>>> is just bosh. I'm not saying you were implying this, but I've started
>>>> to
>>>>>>> hear/read that in various places.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've had a Firebox for a while and have only ever had problems with
>>> it
>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> using it as what we used to call a wave device, i.e. using it as
a
>> system
>>>>>>>> soun
Re: OT: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78891 is a reply to message #78886] Tue, 23 January 2007 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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the project/tracks on
the
>>> network
>>>>>>>>> >from the main DAW in the studio and import them.
>>>>>>>>>> Is the Presonus driver so shabby that it would not be usable for
>> simple
>>>>>>>>>> stuff like this? She will be using my old DAW rig for her new
graphics/music
>>>>>>>>>> computer. ASUS A8V-Dlx, AMD 64 4400x2 CPU 2G RAM on XP SP2. I
figured
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> FW
>>>>>>>>>> port on this would probably handle simple two track recording.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there another simple and inexpensive (and better) 2 track recording
>>>>>>>>>> interface that is bundled with Cubase SE?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> HI Brandon,
>>>>>>>>>>> Driver -
>>>>>>>>>>> Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers.
>>>>> You
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat
in
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> internal routing control.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the headphone
>>>>>>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>>>>>>> Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues
>> then
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost
>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>> unit with some other device.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Focusrite Sapphire Pro is the only other in that price range
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> similar features. It doesn't have the routing features of the
Presonus
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> has the same number of I/O.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the long run I think you really better off going with the
MOTU
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> RME
>>>>>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If the the budget is an issues then I would recommend.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any of these would work in that budget and give you the cuemix
controls
>>>>>>>>>>> similar to Presonus and RME.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
Re: DJ? Core2Duo/quadcore motherboards [message #78896 is a reply to message #78879] Tue, 23 January 2007 18:37 Go to previous message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   BRAZIL
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gt;>> really want a card on the motherboard to do that with I
think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still learning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually I think I will hook them both up via firewire
directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the comp. Then I will monitor thru the Presonus.
>>>>
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