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| Re: OT - SIR [message #68422 is a reply to message #68403] |
Sat, 20 May 2006 11:06   |
Tom Bruhl
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> I take it your MAC crashed in the middle of typing.... ;-)
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> David.
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> James McCloskey wrote:
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> > PC (nerdy older guy) and MAC (younger guy) facing camera, standing side
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> > side between two computer monitors
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> > MAC
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> > Hi, I'm a Mac.
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> > PC
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> > Hi, I'm a PC.
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> > I'm into music, video, games, stuff like that .
..I do believe Apple needs to come down on their pricing, and I've said so here
in the past. You get what you pay for though! If you were to compare a
Hyundai or a KIA to a Cadillac, you have different pricing structures. The
Cadillac has a simulated birds eye maple dash, the KIA has a cheap gray dash.
Do you need a fancy dash?, I don't know but your definitely paying for it
in the price of the Cadillac! Do you need a computer with a fancy aluminum
alloy case?, I don't know but you are paying for it in the price of the Mac!
Macs also cost more because they are not mass produced in the quantities
that PCs are. It's like saying Ferraris suck because they cost five times
more than Cadillacs.
There is other tangible and intangible value in the price of a Mac, such
as your time, Macs just work! Almost no down time, there's not much time
spent on trying to get things to work. What is your time worth? PC guys
here are constantly fussing with their PCs, IRQ conflicts, hardware conflicts,
.dll file issues, driver issues, malicious code and other headaches. If
you want to fuss, cool, but time is money.
I think the Mac drivers are better, and they're built in. No need to go searching
for the drivers. The iLife software rocks! Figure about $100.00 a program,
and then figure in that they actually work! There is no need for Anti Spyware
software, pop up blocking software. The need for anti virus software is
minimal, on a PC it is absolutely necessary if you are going on the internet
and down loading anything. Viruses still get buy the software on a PC, what
does time and lost data cost? On a mac you don't have to be a security administrator.
Macs are harder to hack.
The united States Navy, Hues aircraft and Boeing did cost of operation studies
in the past. It was something like 6 IT guys per 100 PCs to maintain and
administrate. It was 1 IT guy per 100 plus Macs to maintain and administrate.
Because of the lower labor costs, the over all costs for business is lower
with macs.
So Macs do cost more initially, but that cost is offset by the time saved
and the rest of the above mentioned. You get what you pay for!
I think the MacBook is a reasonable deal for what you get.
I'm not saying a Mac is perfect, it just looks that way next to a Windows
box!
I like my PCs too, I just know my Macs are better!
I say use what works for you.
James
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>OK, my turn...
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>>FADE IN:
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>>interior, bright, spacious room, background non-descript
>>PC (nerdy older guy) and MAC (younger guy) facing camera,
>>standing side by side between two computer monitors.
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>>MAC
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>>Hi, I'm a Mac.
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>>PC
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>>And I'm a PC.
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>>MAC
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>>I used to be different than him, but now I'm being built
>>like a PC with Intel chips & everything.
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>>PC
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>>Ummm... but you're still going to cost like three times as
>>much as a PC?
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>>MAC
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>>Uhhh... Yeah! <winks at camera>
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>FADE TO BLACK>PC guys
>here are constantly fussing with their PCs, IRQ conflicts, hardware
conflicts,
>dll file issues, driver issues, malicious code and other headaches. If
>you want to fuss, cool, but time is money.
OK James. I would be really curious to know if you think you could set up
two Macs to work exactly like I've got my PC's working and tell me if
everything works perfectly first time. I would be really curious to know. My
Paris PC cost me about $500.00. My Native PC cost me around $700.00
(neither price includes montors or audio hardware).
You will need a Mac for Paris (which I assume you've already got) and it
will need to have at least a 2G CPU, I G of RAM and 4 x video heads.. The
Native machine will need to be running Cubase SX and have a dual 2.5G CPU, 4
G RAM, 4 x UAD-1 cards 3 x RME HDSP cards running in two separate Magma
chassis' (unless you can somehow cram all of this into a mobo and 1 Magma)
and three video heads.
I will admit it took a while to get this working properly on a PC, (properly
meaning the *exact* way I had planned it to work) but it certainly did not
put me out of business for one second or lose me any money because I had
total control of the OS and I could work around every glitch I encountered
until I found the sweet spot. No downtime........none at all........just
lots of options when I needed them while I configured the
system..........and yes, there is some configuration time involved to be
sure, but I'm the one doing the configuring rather than having an OS handed
to me that has ten tons of crap bundled with it that I'll never use and I'm
expected to take or leave. Can you strip this stuff out of Mac OS like you
can with Windows? I'm curious.
Regards,
Deej
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44934f4e$1@linux...
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> I do believe Apple needs to come down on their pricing, and I've said so
here
> in the past. You get what you pay for though! If you were to compare a
> Hyundai or a KIA to a Cadillac, you have different pricing structures.
The
> Cadillac has a simulated birds eye maple dash, the KIA has a chea
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