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| Re: punching in a loop [message #63184 is a reply to message #63181] |
Mon, 16 January 2006 12:57   |
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John [1]
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>>>4 those interested there are...
>>>>
>>>>4 eds cards
>>>>3 mecs 2 black and 1 blue
>>>>3 c-16's
>>>>3 input cards analog
>>>>4 output cards analog
>>
>>
>>my own personal opinion is that the brain works on two levels, the intellectual
and emotional. You can intellectually figure out things musically from now
until forever, and come up with what should be a good jazz solo line, or,
with sufficient background in the music and physical facility, you can just
forget all about that lydian/modal stuff and just let the music come out.
Well, sometimes you can. Perhaps it's rationalization after the fact.
Dizzy or Louis could play whole solos, if they chose, with only one or two
well placed notes. Miles, too. Scales not necessary. It's the placement that's
important.
But my opinion is that CC couldn't have cared less about scales and modes
and what does and doesn't work. He just did it. I'm just guessing here, but
he was a young kid from the sticks.. I don't think he had years of music
theory. He just listened and played. That's why he so confounded schooled
players.
Reminds me of a supposed meeting between Fats Waller and Artur Rubinstein.
I may have the names mixed up -- you can substitute "great jazz pianist"
and "great classical pianist" -- but the story went that AR said, here's
a chorus of, oh, some standard jazz tune, like "I've Got Rhythm", and he
played it, and AT said, that's great! and AR said, well, I've been working
it out for the last two months. So AT sat down and ripped one off, equally
great. AR said, wow, when did you write that? and AT said, just now, when
I sat down...
-steve
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Agreed, but my harmony knowledge is pretty decent. I'm not great, but I
can
>hear what, say, Wes Montgomery is doing or what Miles is doing reasonably
>well. I can't do it myself but I can say, "Hmmm, that's a Lydian blues lick
>of all things."
>
>Personally I think CC is so hard to understand because he was _not_ thinking
>about harmony, and especially not about modal harmony as jazz is taught
these
>days. There's more of that on some of the lo-fi "jam" tapes that exist but
>even then he doesn't sound like he's thinking as theoretically as the other
>proto-beboppers. But then again, I'm not a jazz player so what do I know.
>
>
>TCB
>
>"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote:
>>I know what you went through Thad. When I was really young I was in a band
>
>>that had me learn a lot of solos note for note. There were some solos i
>
>>could not figure out what the guy was thinking, and the missing
>>understanding was the harmonization. I did not understand the chord
>>progressions. Most rock players start out with the blues 1/4/5 progression
>
>>and never learn about the 2/5/1 progression that jazz uses. The real fun
>is
>>when you play the 2/5/1 inside a 4/5/1 - bebop blues.
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43f0d61c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> At one point in my life I learned about half a dozen Charlie Christian
>
>>> solos
>>> note for note. I could translate practically zero of it into anything
>
>>> useful,
>>> other that that CC was a supremely melodic thinker and player. I couldn't
>>> figure out much of anything about the way he was thinking about putting
>
>>> things
>>> together. I'm sure a better player could, but I sure couldn't.
>>>
>>> TC
>>>
>>> "Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote:
>>>>DC, you haf=ve Charlie Chrisitan listed in your Lines. Do you play his
>>>>lines?
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:43ece0ac$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a review of my new amp. Boy is it nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dcguitarjournal.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Thanks, Neil.
>
>Mike Durham played all the electric stuff thru an amp, though I can't
>remember what kind of amp, mic'ed with a 57. Jason Roller played a Larivee
>acoustic mic'ed with a Studer stereo mic. The vocals they carried over
to
>Nashville's Quad Studios to record, and I'm not sure of what mic they used,
>but I do know they used a Neve pre and an LA2A comp.
>
>CL
>
>
>"Neil" <IUOIU@IOU.com> wrote in message news:43f1e48d$1@linux...
>>
>> Nice job, DeWd! :) Really great sounds & mixes... is the
>> rhythm guitar on: "If it Mattered to Me" a modeled tone, or at
>> least recorded direct? Just wondering - it has that kind of
>> characteristic.
>>
>> What was your signal chain for her voice? It's a nice straight-
>> ahead vocal tone without any over-coloration of any kind.
>>
>> As other people have mentioned, nice choices on sounds overall
>> across the board on all the cuts... "It Don't Help" is my
>> personal fave, I think.
>>
>> N
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