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| Drum "group" compression [message #68051] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 17:35  |
CJG
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hauled out every musical
>instrument we could get our hands on and started to jam...Dad on sax, my
two
>uncles were on piano and trumpet, my cousins were on organ, guitar and bass
>and I was on the drums...
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| Re: Drum "group" compression [message #68054 is a reply to message #68051] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 18:06  |
Deej [1]
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>My Dad was a tough but fair military man from the old school yet he mellowed
>with the times and was a complete push over when he was around his
>Grandchildren. He never fully agreed with many of the choices I made in
life
>but respected me for pursing them and was always there when I needed him,
>which was more than once.
>
>I can proudly say he was a pretty good musician in his day. Tenor sax was
>his axe of choice but he could wail on piano and during the late 40's and
>early 50's had at least three bands going, from little combo's to huge big
>band jazz bands. As he used to say "it kept roast beef on our table when
>others were eating hamburger"
>
>I had the privilege of playing with him in the eighties when the big band
he
>was in needed a fill in drummer while their drummer recovered from major
>heart surgery...very cool time indeed and I do believe I earned his respect
>as a musician, I know my respect for him increased immeasurably.
>
>Another amazing music moment happened when our family went out west to
>attend my cousin's wedding...Dad's two brothers and their families were
all
>there, as well as my grandmother...anyway the day after the wedding the
>whole crew went down to my Uncle's basement, hauled out every musical
>instrument we could get our hands on and started to jam...Dad on sax, my
two
>uncles were on piano and trumpet, my cousins were on organ, guitar and bass
>and I was on the drums....and there sitting in the corner of the room was
my
>grandmother...with tears of joy running down her cheeks...to say it was
>magical would be an understatement.
>
>Shortly after Dad was admitted into the hospital I got a chance to sit with
>him and do that Father and son thing...I had to tell him how I truly felt
>about him no matter how hard it was...you see Dad was never big on showing
>emotion or saying I love you but we sure let it all out that day. Tears
of
>sadness, love and joy were shed by the bucketful and I am truly grateful
for
>that day.
>
>In the end he refused the IV that was his life support and after 12 days
his
>body finally gave out.
>
>I will miss the old fart.
>
>Peace
>
>Don
>
>
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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| Re: Drum "group" compression [message #68056 is a reply to message #68054] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 18:19 |
Neil
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sm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44887d21$1@linux...
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>>This is ridiculous, but it's no more ridiculous than Pat Boon doing a
>>Metal
>>album. Bon jovi and Brett Michaels doing country, is also lame.
>>
>>It's funny and sad at the same time, this guy used to sell out arenas.
>>In his book Crazy From The Heat, he tells what really happened with VH and
>>the reunion. He also talks about how he is constantly recording all
>>different
>>genres of music with people from all genres of music, from country, blues,
>>jazz to motown, etc. That book is an interesting read, and a few good
>>laughs.
>>
>>It's too bad he hasn't been able to do much with his records since VH
>>days,
>>because some of the stuff is great. The DLR Band record has some rippin
>>tunes on it. There is some really great playing on it.
>>
>>James
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>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
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>>> http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/archives/1762-David- Lee-Roth-Perform
>>>s-Jump-Bluegrass-Style!-Video.html
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yes it does!...especially on vinyl...<br>
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......and, with all respect due to you guys, I think that it was pretty
cool...I mean, like , in a kinda Corb Lund sorta way...lol... I love
bluegrass so I'd plunk out 25 bucks to go see them do that stuff...even
if just to see if they could keep a straight face.....<br>
j<br>
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Don Nafe wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Skyscraper kicks ass!
Don
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| Re: Drum "group" compression [message #68057 is a reply to message #68054] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 18:25 |
jef knight[1]
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>This is ridiculous, but it's no more ridiculous than Pat Boon doing a
Metal
album. Bon jovi and Brett Michaels doing country, is also lame.
It's funny and sad at the same time, this guy used to sell out arenas.
In his book Crazy From The Heat, he tells what really happened with VH and
the reunion. He also talks about how he is constantly recording all
different
genres of music with people from all genres of music, from country, blues,
jazz to motown, etc. That book is an interesting read, and a few good
laughs.
It's too bad he hasn't been able to do much with his records since VH
days,
because some of the stuff is great. The DLR Band record has some rippin
tunes on it. There is some really great playing on it.
James
"DJ" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net"><animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net></a> wrote:
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--------------000901040903070002090008--Thanks for the pop culture update, DJ-
I am not a bluegrass fan at all, but man, that song was...
beautiful. Joyous, great musicianship. Wow.
But DLR was so weird. He looked and sounded desperate,
kind of like Jim Carrey on a bad day.
If someone else was singing, I would check it out for sure.
The thing they did with the old synth lick was just awesome.
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>
>yes it does!...especially on vinyl...
>
>.....and, with all respect due to you guys, I think that it was pretty
>cool...I mean, like , in a kinda Corb Lund sorta way...lol... I love
>bluegrass so I'd plunk out 25 bucks to go see them do that stuff...even
>if just to see if they could keep a straight face.....
>j
>
>Don Nafe wrote:
>
>>Skyscraper kicks ass!
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>>Do
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| Re: Drum "group" compression [message #68058 is a reply to message #68054] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 18:22 |
CJG
Messages: 16
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>>
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>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:44887d21$1@linux...
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>>>This is ridiculous, but it's no more ridiculous than Pat Boon doing a
>>>Metal
>>>album. Bon jovi and Brett Michaels doing country, is also lame.
>>>
>>>It's funny and sad at the same time, this guy used to sell out arenas.
>>>In his book Crazy From The Heat, he tells what really happened with VH
and
>>>the reunion. He also talks about how he is constantly recording all
>>>different
>>>genres of music with people from all genres of music, from country, blues,
>>>jazz to motown, etc. That book is an interesting read, and a few good
>>>laughs.
>>>
>>>It's too bad he hasn't been able to do much with his records since VH
>>>days,
>>>because some of the stuff is great. The DLR Band record has some rippin
>>>tunes on it. There is some really great playing on it.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/archives/1762-David- Lee-Roth-Perform
>>>>s-Jump-Bluegrass-Style!-Video.html
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>yes it does!...especially on vinyl...<br>
><br>
>.....and, with all respect due to you guys, I think that it was pretty
>cool...I mean, like , in a kinda Corb Lund sorta way...lol... I love
>bluegrass so I'd plunk out 25 bucks to go see them do that stuff...even
>if just to see if they could keep a straight face.....<br>
>j<br>
><br>
>Don Nafe wrote:
><blockquote cite="mid44888270@linux" type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">Skyscraper kicks ass!
>
>Don
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com"><excelsm@hotmail.com></a>
>wrote in message
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| Re: Drum "group" compression [message #68059 is a reply to message #68056] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 18:19 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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ss="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="news:44887d21$1@linux">news:44887d21$1@linux</a>...
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap="">This is ridiculous, but it's no more ridiculous than Pat
Boon doing
>a
>Metal
>album. Bon jovi and Brett Michaels doing country, is also lame.
>
>It's funny and sad at the same time, this guy used to sell out arenas.
>In his book Crazy From The Heat, he tells what really happened with VH and
>the reunion. He also talks about how he is constantly recording all
>different
>genres of music with people from all genres of music, from country, blues,
>jazz to motown, etc. That book is an interesting read, and a few good
>laughs.
>
>It's too bad he hasn't been able to do much with his records since VH
>days,
>because some of the stuff is great. The DLR Band record has some rippin
>tunes on it. There is some really great playing on it.
>
>James
>
>
>"DJ" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net"><animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net></a>
>wrote:
> </pre>
> <blockquote type="cite">
> <pre wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href=" http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/archives/1762-David- Lee-Roth-Perform"> http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/archives/1762-David- Lee-Roth-Perform</a>
>s-Jump-Bluegrass-Style!-Video.html
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>Don - I am sorry to hear about your Dad passing.
Best wishes and condolences,
Dedric.
On 6/7/06 6:54 PM, in article 44877418$1@linux, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca>
wrote:
> Hey All
>
> I thought you should know that my Dad finally passed away from complications
> due to ALS. He put up one helluva fight
>
> My Dad was a tough but fair military man from the old school yet he mellowed
> with the times and was a complete push over when he was around his
> Grandchildren. He never fully agreed with many of the choices I made in life
> but respected me for pursing them and was always there when I needed him,
> which was more than once.
>
> I can proudly say he was a pretty good musician in his day. Tenor sax was
> his axe of choice but he could wail on piano and during the late 40's and
> early 50's had at least three bands going, from little combo's to huge big
> band jazz bands. As he used to say "it kept roast beef on our table when
> others were eating hamburger"
>
> I had the privilege of playing with him in the eighties when the big band he
> was in needed a fill in drummer while their drummer recovered from major
> heart surgery...very cool time indeed and I do believe I earned his respect
> as a musician, I know my respect for him increased immeasurably.
>
> Another amazing music moment happened when our family went out west to
> attend my cousin's wedding...
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| Re: Drum "group" compression [message #68060 is a reply to message #68058] |
Thu, 11 May 2006 18:24 |
CJG
Messages: 16
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Dad's two brothers and their families were all
> there, as well as my grandmother...anyway the day after the wedding the
> whole crew went down to my Uncle's basement, hauled out every musical
> instrument we could get our hands on and started to jam...Dad on sax, my two
> uncles were on piano and trumpet, my cousins were on organ, guitar and bass
> and I was on the drums....and there sitting in the corner of the room was my
> grandmother...with tears of joy running down her cheeks...to say it was
> magical would be an understatement.
>
> Shortly after Dad was admitted into the hospital I got a chance to sit with
> him and do that Father and son thing...I had to tell him how I truly felt
> about him no matter how hard it was...you see Dad was never big on showing
> emotion or saying I love you but we sure let it all out that day. Tears of
> sadness, love and joy were shed by the bucketful and I am truly grateful for
> that day.
>
> In the end he refused the IV that was his life support and after 12 days his
> body finally gave out.
>
> I will miss the old fart.
>
> Peace
>
> Don
>
>
>
>As opposed to that unplanned one we just had. ;o) Sorry about that, and me
having an extra long day at work and all too. So seeing as how the router
crashed, I'm going to do a firmware upgrade. There's some fairly major bug
fixes I'm not running so hopefully it will smooth things out.
It should only be for an hour or so. Hopefully not even that. It will be
done around 0:00GMT 10/6/06.
But to those who were wondering, no it had nothing to do with the server
crashing due to bad UPS power as was the case a few months back. That problem
is dealt with, and not coming back, and nobody here will be shelling out
for a new router! ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.Steve Vai on anything kicks !
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Skyscraper kicks ass!
>
>Don
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44887d21$1@linux...
>>
>> This is ridiculous, but it's no more ridiculous than Pat Boon doing a
>> Metal
>> album. Bon jovi and Brett Michaels doing country, is also lame.
>>
>> It's funny and sad at the same time, this guy used to sell out arenas.
>> In his book Crazy From The Heat, he tells what really happened with VH
and
>> the reunion. He also talks about how he is constantly recording all
>> different
>> genres of music with people from all genres of music, from country, blues,
>> jazz to motown, etc. That book is an interesting read, and a few good
>> laughs.
>>
>> It's too bad he hasn't been able to do much with his records since VH
>> days,
>> because some of the stuff is great. The DLR Band record has some rippin
>> tunes on it. There is some really great playing on it.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/archives/1762-David- Lee-Roth-Perform
>>>s-Jump-Bluegrass-Style!-Video.html
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| Re: Drum "group" compression......hey rick [message #68157 is a reply to message #68149] |
Sat, 13 May 2006 11:43 |
rick
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h 2nd Magma chassis (a 7 slot unit) All of my UAD-1 cards are in the
> >> 13
> >> slot chassis and all occupy IRQ 19 with the host card in mobo PCI slot
> >> #4.
> > I
> >> have been able to get my two HDSP 9652's on IRQ 17 & 18 by putting them
> >> in
> >> the 7 slot Magma with the host card in mobo PCI slot #3.
> >> Adding the Multiface PCI card to this chassis scrambles the IRQ
> > assignments
> >> to the point that either one of the HDSP RME cards is on IRQ 16 with
the
> >> video card and/or one of the cards is sharing an IREQ with the UAD-1
> >> cards............both bad scenarios. However, putting both HDSP cards
in
> >> slots 1 & 2 of the 7 slot Magma and my Multiface PCI in slot #2 of the
> > mobo
> >> has allowed the RME cards to live on IRQ's 17 and 18, the UAD-1 cards
to
> >> occupy IRQ 19 and the video card to occupy IRQ 16. The DAW has been
> > running
> >> for over an hour in playback mode without crashing. Tomorrow I'll be
> >> stressing it big time to see if the crackling in the audio is resolved.
> >> If
> >> I'm successful, I'll have pushed this system about as far as this
> >> architecture can go I think.
> >>
> >> Though it appears that the 7 slot Magma may have solved my problem, in
a
> > way
> >> it's sort of disappointing. I was expecting a friendlier IRQ assignment
> >> scenario. I recently sold a 7 slot SBS chassis because after getting
the
> > 13
> >> slot Magma and having good luck with it, I figured the Magma's were
just
> >> a
> >> better product. Now I have my doubts. I think the 7 slot SBS chassis
was
> > at
> >> least as friendly as the 7 slot Magma, and perhaps moreso. My previous
> >> experience with the SBS leads me to believe that I might have been more
> >> successful with it in my current scenario than with the Magma.
> >>
> >> Anyway.......it's hard to say and if my testing tomorrow goes well,
I'll
> > be
> >> settling into mix mode. I've got a lot to do here.
> >>
> >> I do have another dual core CPU and video card on order right now and a
> >> Gigabye NForce 3 mobo. This mobo is also supposed to be friendly with
> > UAD-1
> >> cards. I'll probably be building another system with this. For what
> > exactly,
> >> I'm not quite sure If my crurrent system is stable tomorrow, I'll be
> >> leaving it be, most
likely..........yeah.......right!!!......Hey.......if
> >> someone wants to loan me an EDS card, 442 aand C-16, I might bench this
> >> thing and see if I can get Paris working with a dual core CPU.
> >>
> >> That might be a worth while experiment.
> >>
> >> ;o)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>I'm having great success with the BlueTubes, C1, RenComp, and Sonalksis but
so far the Aux problem eludes me.
"Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>by the way, there sure a lot of crappy vst compressors out there.
>
>Yes there are, but there's some quite good ones as well -
>If you're talking about some of the free or cheaper ones,
>I think this is true of a LOT of freeware/shareware/donationware
>plugins. You do have to dig through the trash to get to the
>treasure, but on the other hand, try to find a freeware TDM
>plugin... anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
>
>What instruments are you looking to compress, and which VST
>comps have you tried? I've found I certainly prefer certain
>ones for certain tasks maybe I can give you a list of the ones
>I've found most useful.
>
>NeilI know Don
:)
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Looks like it...DUH!
>
>No offense meant "D"
>
>;-)
>
>Don
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:448d61a8@linux...
>> Did I accidentally block Dimitrious?...any trick in unblocking?
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>Hi Chuck ..I'll bring the beer..I'll be over in about an hour to try that
pizza recipie.....
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:448cb8d0$1@linux...
>
> This is mostly for Jimmy... :-)
>
> Jimmy, when I read that you got it after ten tries I almost pissed myself.
> I have been working at it for the past ten years and have yet to produce
> a pie that I'm satisfied with. But anyway..
>
> Here is my ramble.. You gotta have a stone, or you gotta have some clay
> tiles. The stone needs to be heated in a 500 degree oven for at least 30
> minutes before hand. The dough needs to be at room temperature (go figure
> :-).
>
> Now here's where I go different from everyone else I know. I never,
never,
> ever put the pizza together and throw it in the oven.
>
> First I sprinkle the stone with corn meal - it will smoke like crazy, and
> after tossing the dough lay it out on the stone. Brush the top litely
with
> olive oil and push the assembly back into the oven.
>
> Watch carefully, and when the top of the dough starts to turn the
slightest
> brown it's time for the sauce. This is the crucial time, it's where
everyone
> makes the mistakes... Poke the bubbles that are forming and do the sauce.
> It doesn't take much sauce, a couple tablespoons full of crushed
tomato/garlic/olive
> oil, or a nice pesto. Too much sauce destroys the pie.
>
> Put it back into the oven until the sauce is hot and just starting to dry.
> There's nothing worse than a pie with sloppy, dripping sauce.
>
> Now it's time for cheese. Use interesting mixtures of fresh mozz, parm,
> romano, assagio, whatever you have on hand, but the key is this.... The
cheeses
> have to COOK, brown and almost burn to bring out the real flavor.
>
> Once you get to the point where you can reliably produce a great pie you
> can move on to adding toppings.
>
> The other thing people often overlook is that a grill is an excellent
pizza
> oven, but you need to watch the pie like crazy. Soaked apple wood is a
good
> wood to try on top of the coals.
>
> The other aspect that is often overlooked is the crust. A mixture of
crushed
> red pepper, kosher salt, parmesean and olive oil brushed over the crust
about
> 2/3 the way through is NUTS!
>
> I love pizza !
>
> Chuck
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>You can use VST/DX for EQ and Gain to further this technique.
AA
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:448d64f9$1@linux...
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> John, use two auxes both with st.compressors.
> On aux 1 use yours compressor setting, on aux2 set compressor ratio 1:1,
> it's mesn sound no compressed.Mute chanells with drums in mixer and keep
> aux in "pre fader modes" in aux setting on chanell.Now you'll mixed all in
> aux master section,aux1 >aux2 by
> "return trim".Keep attention, use the same lookahead setting for both
> compressors!!!
>
>
> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>John
>>
>>Maybe you should use anly aux for all, I mean mixed aux-dry drum &
>>aux-c
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