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| MIDI Editing Question [message #75982] |
Tue, 14 November 2006 11:45  |
Neil
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t; >> >>> I have some wav files that were recorded in Live 5. I can't,
> >> >>> however,
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> >> >>> load
> >> >>> them into Paris. Well, it loads them, but only as files that are 2k
> > big.
> >> >>> The original files are on the order of tens of megabytes. And,
does
> >>
> >> >>> anyone
> >> >>> know where I can find AudioX's "Auto Add" program? I can't locate
> > audiox
> >> >>> anywhere on the net.
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>> MR
> >> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>Have you actually encountered these bugs John, or are you just going on what
the forum says?
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4582c6ba$1@linux...
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| Re: MIDI Editing Question [message #75994 is a reply to message #75982] |
Tue, 14 November 2006 13:50  |
Sarah
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t; <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45834c91@linux...
> Hi all
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> Actually it isn't bad at all but several inital comments on this
> particular track I'm mixing is there's too much fret noise on the
> acoustic.
>
> Most of it is between chords (picking)
>
> One thought was using a de-esser...all other's are more than welcome
>
> Don
>Manully editing might be the best bet... Don, if you're trying
a de-esser for that, you might need like 3 or 4 of 'em in a
row, each centered on different frequencies. Fortunately,
Spitfish doesn't take up much CPU power (if that's what you're
using).
Also, you could try re-micing it through your monitors (muting
the playback on the recording channel) with a dynamic mic
backed-off a bit from the speakers... whatever you do, don't
compress when playing back to re-mic if you try this. That'll
just make the squeak stand out more.
Wanna send me a sample of the wav file & I'll see if I can come
up with an idea for you?
Neil
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> Are you talking about strings buzzing against frets, or fingers
>chirping and squeaking on the string windings? Cuz I've solved the latter
>to my satisfaction by switching to Elixirs. To fix the noise that's already
>there, I'd be inclined to just go in there with a wave editor and manually
>fix the noises one at a time, but then, I'm obsessive. :)
>
>Sarah
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>www.sarahtonin.com
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>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45834c91@
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| Re: MIDI Editing Question [message #75995 is a reply to message #75994] |
Tue, 14 November 2006 13:55 |
Sarah
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;linux...
>> Hi all
>>
>> Actually it isn't bad at all but several inital comments on this
>> particular track I'm mixing is there's too much fret noise on the
>> acoustic.
>>
>> Most of it is between chords (picking)
>>
>> One thought was using a de-esser...all other's are more than welcome
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>Ok - yeesh, I've recovered my files!!! I'm thinking I got pretty lucky
because there was a "shadow" of them somewhere on the drive - as if they
were deleted (I never deleted them). And this little freebie did the
trick...
http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/UK/welcome.htm
rock,
-Carl
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:4582ead2$1@linux...
> I've been pretty lucky, but I've finally had an encounter with a project
> glitch. I've got a Paris song project that, while working on it became
very
> sluggish and upon crashing down corrupted the files in the folder. I was
> actually rendering all new tracks at the time for a backup. So, basically,
> I've got the folder name, which looks good, but the two sub-folders inside
> it (which contain all the PAF audio files) have funny looking random caps,
> and Windows ME won't let me access them. Anyone else run into this before?
> I'm pretty sure that my hard drive bay cable was just loosing a connection
> that caused some disk-writing errors - the hard drive is fine now, except
> that folder.
>
> Anyone ever recovered PAF's before?
>
> TIA,
> -Carl
>
> http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp? article_type=ae&article_path=/arts_entertainment/ae06121 5_1.htm
Everyone in this article except Cindy has recorded here. I'm mixing/remixing
a couple of projects right now that have various groupings of all of these
musicians. I hadn't listened to this material in a while. There are some
truly phenomenal talents in this area. The author of this article isn't
exaggerating when describing how talented these folks are. I'
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| Re: MIDI Editing Question [message #76008 is a reply to message #76005] |
Wed, 15 November 2006 05:54 |
Don Nafe
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n't<BR>close or click <BR><BR>OK at =
this=20
time.<BR>re-add powered, don't add vst suffix, disable midi, DO NOT =
CHECK THE=20
RESCAN<BR>PLUGS OR FORCE <BR><BR>RESCAN FAILED PLUGS BOX (this is a =
sure fire=20
way to loose presets)<BR>that's it<BR><BR>Note....starting with 4.5 =
you will=20
get (I do anyway, in Paris)an error that<BR>says the Farichild =
<BR><BR>mono=20
and EX M plug is not installed. To defeat this, install 4.5 again,=20
specifying<BR>a folder <BR><BR>other than the correct folder (you will =
delete=20
it later) and select the "install<BR>mono versions"<BR>box. Go into =
the mono=20
folder that's in the folder you chose, copy the Fairchild<BR>and EX-M=20
DLL's<BR>(there the only ones that don't have the word (mono) in =
parenthisis)=20
and<BR>copy them to the <BR><BR>correct folder. Then delete the bogus =
folder,=20
or the UAD dll's. I use the<BR>steinberg/vst folder, <BR><BR>since =
that's what=20
it defaults to, and tha
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| Re: MIDI Editing Question [message #76021 is a reply to message #76020] |
Wed, 15 November 2006 14:03 |
neil[1]
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any ideas on why I have to reload my =
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C720FC.A2A4B860--Basically, there is nothing between me and the speakers but a patio table
barely bigger than 2 C16's, the computer monitor, the computer KB, and a
couple of HD's. All racks are out of line of sight of the speakers and
angled so
they don't reflect at me.
It made a huge improvement. It's funny, I will build a studio for a client
that is tweaked to the last decimal, but my own was not. Well now it is
and I like it.
The analyzer is an Audio Toolbox Contractor version and Terralink
software. I can go up to 1/12 oct FFT analysis and do RT60, and a lots of
other useful tests
DC
"Graham Duncan" <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
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>DC,
>
>That's cool. Affirmative on the speaker stands! I always find it a bit
>of a compromise since one needs some equipment in front of you to mix, etc.
> If you find those pics I'd like to see your solution. I'm using some home-built
>stands, Ikea tables and low Raxxess racks at the moment and I'm pretty happy.
>
>
>What analyzer are you using?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Graham
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinthestudio.org> wrote:
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>>Hi Graham,
>>
>>I used to have the typical big KK audio console with the monitors on
>>it. I could not get good results with it, so I pulled out the analyzer
>
>>and took a hard look at it. The top of the console was extending
>>the baffle of the speaker and causing comb filters and low-mid
>>boost, while the racks on either side were causing the sub to
>>produce standing waves and more comb filters. It was just awful.
>>
>>I can't find the pics right now, but I ended up with a patio table
>>(with lots space between the boards of the top) from Ikea for the
>>KB, C16's and computer monitor, the racks pushed off to the side
>>and angled away so as to not reflect sound from the monitors,
>>and the speakers on solid steel (filled with lead shot) stands with
>>cement blocks on top and then Auralex MoPads on top of that.
>>
>>It was a pretty low-buck solution and both measures and sounds
>>wonderful. It is so accurate now, and translates so well, that I am
>>even confident mastering on it.
>>
>>BTW, there are speakers now, from Tannoy and JBL (and probably
>>others) that can correct for the baffle extension. What they cannot
>>correct is the ref
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| Re: MIDI Editing Question [message #76360 is a reply to message #76021] |
Thu, 23 November 2006 00:52 |
Tom Bruhl
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pretty good,<BR>>> I think - very smooth. The limiter is either =
>>totally=20
>>incapable<BR>>> of brickwaling, or I haven't figured out how to =
>>get it=20
>>there,<BR>>> because I've had to adjust the master level down to =
>>avoid=20
>>overs<BR>>> even when using this. It has a bunch of presets (not =
>>all of=20
>>the<BR>>> plugins do), some of which seem pretty useful as=20
>>starting<BR>>> points. I wouldn't want to run a Mastering house =
>>using=20
>>this<BR>>> application, so their choice of name may be stretching =
>>things=20
>>a<BR>>> bit, but if you want to strap something nice & smooth =
>>&=20
>>clear-<BR>>> sounding/uncolored across your Pulsar mixer's 2-buss, =
>>then=20
>>this<BR>>> would be the one to use).<BR>>><BR>>> =
>>*Vinco=20
>>Vintage Compressor (a one-trick pony dead-on (at least<BR>>> as =
>>far as I=20
>>can tell from what I've run through it so far)<BR>>> emulation of =
>>an 1176,=20
>>but cleaner - maybe a little<BR>>> less "attitude". I've never =
>>found the=20
>>'76's to be all that<BR>>> useful, personally, but for those who =
>>lust=20
>>after them, his<BR>>> one's not a bad clone at=20
>>all.<BR>>><BR>>> *PSY-Q (Totally fuckin' useless attempt at =
>>a stereo=20
>>spread<BR>>> modifer... as I think I pointed out before, this =
>>thing=20
>>has<BR>>> about two degress of variance before it starts chewing =
>>the=20
>>hell<BR>>> out of your signal & barfing up something almost=20
>>vaguely<BR>>> resembling music. A waste of code, IMO). Want a =
>>killer=20
>>stereo<BR>>> spread modifier? Get the one that comes in Ozone =
>>instead.=20
>>It's<BR>>> the only good one I've heard since the Bedini=20
>>B.A.S.E.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> *Surroundmixer =
>>STM-48s<BR>>>=20
>>*Production Mixer STM-2448<BR>>> *Inline Mixer =
>>STM-1632<BR>>> (OK,=20
>>absolutely NONE of these are really plugins... they're<BR>>> =
>>MIXERS, one=20
>>of which you have to have in your routing window &<BR>>> be =
>>able to=20
>>route signals through it in order to actually MIX -<BR>>> or =
>>sum -=20
>>anything!<BR>>> See, the routing window works something like =
>>this... you=20
>>drop<BR>>> in a module that represents where your signal is coming =
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>>from,<BR>>> then you drop in a mixer module - you pick the =
>>smallest=20
>>mixer<BR>>> you really need, because the bigger the mixer, the =
>>more=20
>>DSP<BR>>> power it takes - then you drop in a module that=20
>>represents<BR>>> where you want your signal to go FROM the mixer, =
>>and in a=20
>>very<BR>>> small nutshell, that's it. The different modules get=20
>>connected<BR>>> very much like how you do it in Paris' virtual=20
>>patchbay.<BR>>><BR>>> The part about "where your signal is =
>>coming=20
>>from" could mean a<BR>>> hardware input (ADAT/Analog/SPDIF/AES) or =
>>it=20
>>could mean a<BR>>> software/ASIO input (like for example if you =
>>were=20
>>running<BR>>> Cubase or Nuendo or whatnot & you had a =
>>36-channel mix=20
>>going on<BR>>> & you wanted to run each channel individually =
>>through=20
>>the<BR>>> Pulsar DSP mixer, you'd drop in an "ASIO Source" module, =
>>do=20
>>a<BR>>> couple other things that I don't want to get into right=20
>>now,<BR>>> and connect tha module to the mixer in your routing=20
>>window...<BR>>> now if it's a 32-channel mix you couldn't use the =
>>"1632"=20
>>mixer<BR>>> mentioned above, because you'd be four channels short, =
>>so=20
>>you'd<BR>>> have to select the 48-channel mixer to get all those=20
>>channels<BR>>> individually. The part about "where you want your =
>>signal to=20
>>go<BR>>> to FROM the mixer" is similar... do you want it to go to=20
>>analog<BR>>> outs? Straight to somewhere on the hard disk? Back =
>>into=20
>>your<BR>>> native app on 2 new tracks so you can keep the mixes in =
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>>the<BR>>> same project? A combination of Analog outs for=20
>>monitoring<BR>>> purposes, lightpipe outs to your Alesis =
>>Masterlink, and=20
>>also<BR>>> straight to the hard disk for a backup copy, all at =
>>once?=20
>>You<BR>>> can do this, too.<BR>>><BR>>> *MasterVerb =
>>Classic=20
>>(seems to me like the same basic algo's as<BR>>> the MasterVerb, =
>>but=20
>>without as much control and a different<BR>>> GUI - haven't messed =
>>with it=20
>>enough to be able to tell if it<BR>>> sounds much different or=20
>>not)<BR>>><BR>>> *Compressor, Limiter, Gate, Expander,=20
>>(plain-vanilla dynamics<BR>>> plugs without any form of coloration =
>>or=20
>>attitude whatsover...<BR>>> great if that's what you want, *YAWN* =
>>if it's=20
>>not.)<BR>>><BR>>> *Parametric EQ, 4-Pole, HighCut Filter, =
>>LowCut=20
>>Filter,<BR>>> (OK, I THOUGHT I was going to go in the order they=20
>>mentioned<BR>>> it, but these needed to be grouped together... =
>>these are=20
>>all<BR>>> the same basic EQ plugin, and the only reason I think =
>>they=20
>>make<BR>>> them "separate" plugins is to give you the choice to=20
>>conserve<BR>>> DSP if you only need one band (hi cut or lo cut, =
>>for=20
>>example) -<BR>>> again, if there was a way to get more plain than=20
>>plain<BR>>> vanilla... how about a soy-based vanilla? - then that =
>>would=20
>>be<BR>>> the way to describe these plugins. Looking for a nice =
>>phat=20
>>Neve-<BR>>> ish, phasey, smeary, analog EQ... y'aint gonna find it =
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>>here,<BR>>> al. Phase-linear - I'm guessing - to the point of: "Is =
>>it=20
>>even<BR>>> ON?" is the game here. Clean? Yep. Musical?=20
>>Nope.<BR>>><BR>>> *Filter, Chorus, 4-Tap, Chorus, Flanger, =
>>Phaser,=20
>>Delay, Dual<BR>>> Delay, AutoPan, AutoWah, Distortion, =
>>Dither/Shaper,=20
>>Early<BR>>> Reflector, Harmonic Chorus/Flanger, Multitap Delay,=20
>>Overdrive,<BR>>> Pitch Shifter, Resonator, RingModulator,=20
>>Tremolo<BR>>><BR>>> I haven't used ANY of the delays yet, =
>>but most=20
>>of the<BR>>> modulation EFX all appear to be cut from the same =
>>mold, in=20
>>the<BR>>> manner of the different EQ plugs - most of the mod EFX=20
>>are<BR>>> pretty funky, and something I wouldn't use, so I can't=20
>>really<BR>>> comment much on these. The dither has quite a few=20
>>settings,<BR>>> some of which sound OK, and some of which sound =
>>like=20
>>crap...<BR>>> there's about ninetymillion dither/noise-shaping =
>>algos=20
>>out<BR>>> there now, so I'm not even sure what some of the=20
>>presets<BR>>> represent! Anyway, to sum it all up, this batch=20
>>above<BR>>> represents really about 4 total plugin's (Delay,=20
>>Modulation,<BR>>> Dither, and Distortion) that happen to be broken =
>>up into=20
>>a<BR>>> number of sub-applets for probably both convenience=20
>>and<BR>>> conservation of DSP... can't blame 'em for=20
>>that.<BR>>><BR>>> This above3 lsit of stuff, as far as I can =
>>tell=20
>>(unless I'm<BR>>> missing something somewhere) is identical to =
>>what you'd=20
>>get if<BR>>> you select their Mix & Master pack as the =
>>software=20
>>option<BR>>> if you order either the "Home" card ($450-ish with 3 =
>>DSP=20
>>chips)<BR>>> or the "Project" card ($750-ish with 6 DSP chips)... =
>>Thad got=20
>>a<BR>>> special they have for the "Professional" card ($1,250-ish=20
>>with<BR>>> 14 DSP chps) wherein if you buy that card you get both =
>>the=20
>>Mix<BR>>> & Master pack PLUS the Synths & Samplers pack =
>>(which I=20
>>know<BR>>> nothing about since I don't have that software=20
>>bundle).<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Argh... tired of typing now =
>>- will=20
>>fill you in on the confusing<BR>>> differences between the names =
>>of the=20
>>cards (both new AND old/yet<BR>>> continuing to be referenced in =
>>their own=20
>>literature), and the<BR>>> different i/o options you have to pick =
>>from=20
>>later on.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Neil <BR>>=20
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>yeah.it's easy enough to google anything isn't it?
http://stateoftheday.blogspot.com/2006/09/whom-would-hitler- shake-hands-with.html
It's typical that this site attacks Rumsfeld while twisting the truth of the
situation. Rumsfeld wasn't appeasing Sadaam, but Chamberlain was certainly
appeasing Hitler. Alliances shift.......especially when they are alliances
of convenience and this is done often in international politics. It's ugly,
but it's a fact of international politics. The point that this site tries to
make is so idiotically naieve (but in this case simply self serving of the
site's agenda).
anyway................I can see where this is going and neither of us is
likely to change the other's mind. I'll wager though that the fleeting pity
that we felt, for whatever reason, is more than Sadaam ever felt when
feeding people feet first into a wood chipper.
Regards,
Deej
"bunuel" <bunuel@conar.fr> wrote in message news:4596b519$1@linux...
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> Yeh, me too.
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> "DC" <dc@saddaminhell.com> wrote:
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>>I did too. Then I remembered.
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>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>As much as this guy was to be despised, the look on his face when he saw
>>the
>>>noose was wrenching and despite myself, I felt pity.
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@saddaminhell.com> wrote in message news:4595fb0a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> The New York Times goes into mourning....
>>>
>>>
>>
>Thanks Neil, it was a while back for sure.
The next one I have slated for release is much less "punk"
I'll let you guys hear it although I had nothing to do with the production.
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Not my cup o' tea, music-wise, but it sounds great for that
>genre, Cuj! Methinks you nailed it.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>>Thanks! that was a long time back, not even a phase switch to play with!
>>
>>The next one of theirs I am putting out was a major label production mastered
>>by B Ludwig, it is also killer, should be up in a month or so. More 50's
>>influences on it.
>>
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