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Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87364]

Fri, 29 June 2007 10:05

Don Nafe

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87366 is a reply to message #87364]

Fri, 29 June 2007 10:18

EK Sound

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87368 is a reply to message #87366]

Fri, 29 June 2007 10:49

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87370 is a reply to message #87368]

Fri, 29 June 2007 11:07

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87372 is a reply to message #87364]

Fri, 29 June 2007 11:25

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87375 is a reply to message #87364]

Fri, 29 June 2007 12:16

Ted Gerber

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87389 is a reply to message #87375]

Sat, 30 June 2007 02:10

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87409 is a reply to message #87389]

Sat, 30 June 2007 12:38

Ted Gerber

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87411 is a reply to message #87366]

Sat, 30 June 2007 13:49

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87413 is a reply to message #87411]

Sat, 30 June 2007 14:19

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87427 is a reply to message #87409]

Sun, 01 July 2007 15:55

Sandy Tipping

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87429 is a reply to message #87427]

Sun, 01 July 2007 16:46

Ted Gerber

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87430 is a reply to message #87427]

Sun, 01 July 2007 16:55

Aaron Allen

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87431 is a reply to message #87430]

Sun, 01 July 2007 17:05

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87432 is a reply to message #87427]

Sun, 01 July 2007 17:06

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87436 is a reply to message #87431]

Sun, 01 July 2007 20:10

Aaron Allen

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-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c4ccb@linux...
Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only with video card, one EDS and one =
MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the 2nd EDS, try another, =
etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20

AA

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c263f@linux...
Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.

I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the same in =

the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.

Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My =
experiences though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables. =

Start small, test every little component, unless you've got a =
bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying =
lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead =
cables out of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20

AA

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love to =
save the money
on those scsi cables.

What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did =
verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on by a gremlin?

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87437 is a reply to message #87436]

Mon, 02 July 2007 06:01

Ted Gerber

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#64;linux..." target="_blank">469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these =
issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did =
also.
Tom=20

"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,

Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? If so did=20
you see the same issue?

Jeff

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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87439 is a reply to message #87429]

Mon, 02 July 2007 06:32

Sandy Tipping

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uhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the best =
I've got=20
right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on =
another comp, try=20
each EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each SCSI =
cable=20
individually with the 442.  If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will have =
an=20
answer.  Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Paris rig without the Magma.  If I can get=20
regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's the =
Magma power=20
supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable.  I'm =
thinking power=20
supply.  I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing even =
when the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them =
wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a logical =
approach to=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87440 is a reply to message #87432]

Mon, 02 July 2007 06:33

Sandy Tipping

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component,=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is off.  =
I'll double=20
check though.  I'd love to save the money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi =
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about =
Deoxit in the=20
female scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canadian Parisites [message #87448 is a reply to message #87440]

Mon, 02 July 2007 17:03

Don Nafe

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;>>>Adam: Recommended by Brad. I can't get on to their website.
>>>>www.adam-audio.com Site doesn't load.
>>>>
>>>>DynAudio: Unknown.
>>>>
>>>>Event: Had a friends studio using low end Event monitors and were
>>>>blown quite easily. Also the sound was muddy on bottom and thin on top.
>>>>
>>>>Focal: Recommended by Dave. I don't anything about this company. I
>>>>can not find any data.
>>>>
>>>>Mackie: Not my 1st choice but if someone has positive/negative
>>>>feedback, I'd appreciate it. From what I've recently learned about my
>>>>1604vlz (upper mid harshness and lower mid muddyness) I'm uncomfortable
>>>>about them and I'm not sure I want Mackie speakers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm really looking to stay at the $999 price range for a pair of active
>>>>6". I would like zero colorization and a large sweet spot if possible.
>>>>Anybody using any of the above? I'm leaning towards the Adams but only
>>>>because of Brad. I'm sure I won't be able to listen to many of the
>>>>above monitors. I may get lucky on one/maybe two at best. I'm relying
>>>>heavily on the inputs I recieve from this newsgroup. I too am quite
>>>>"anal" about sound. I want it clean, clear, deep and rich. I think I
>>>>can mix it if I get true reference monitors.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>Wayne Carson
>>>>Paris user since '97
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Don't have office?=20
OK, 2 options. Go get a google email account ( http://gmail.google.com ) =
and use the online one, or go to www.openoffice.org and get open office. =
Has excel type program.=20

Both are free.

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c64a4@linux...
Thanks Aaron. I'm moving the small stuff up to an open area with =
another comp right now.
I'll begin my madness shortly. I don't have Excel but I am wicked =
good with chisel and stone.
I'll post when something turns up to get your opinion(s).
Tom

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c5774@linux...
Tom, you may find it useful to print out an excel trouble shooting =
chart and check off the items as you tag them good/bad. I find that =
keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like this (IE, never enough time =
to just do it all in one sitting) is just about impossible. Label each =
'part', give it a proper set of

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