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| Attn: piano guys -- HELP!!!! [message #55020] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 21:48  |
Paul Braun
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d have been pleasant.
Further complicating the problem is the fact that you normally
get your highest rainfall in the June/July time frame there, so
we'd have been stuck trying to maneuver in well-soaked earth,
while the Autobahns & bridges on West German side would have
been crammed with whatever civilians weren't partying in Spain
trying to get out towards the west, and the Autobahns coming
from the east would have been stuffed full of Russian tanks &
BMP's pinning us against the rivers.
Assuming a completely conventional war, we still wouldn't have
lost the whole war, had one occurred... we had superior air
power, for example, but that takes time to scramble & mobilize
& assist in killing thousands of tanks, and then rearm & refuel
to do more of the same, but we would have lost most of our
ground forces in Europe, and half of what was West Germany
would have been overrun before we could have beaten them back,
that's for sure.
It's a damn good thing that never happened. I dunno how many of
you reading this actually realize to this extent what the deal
really was, but that's what would've occurred. A LOT of
Americans knew this same shit that I just typed, but were ready
to be there for our allies, and I guess that's what pisses me
off sometimes when I hear someone that we were ready & willing
to deal with (& die in) the above scenario in order to defend
talk shit about us... Derek, I don't mean you specifically, I'm
just talking in general terms now.
Anyway, I guess I'm done for now... made my points, tired of
typing, not going
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| Re: Attn: piano guys -- HELP!!!! [message #55044 is a reply to message #55020] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 05:45  |
neil[1]
Messages: 164
Registered: October 2006
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@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
> We've eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and now we're using the Knowledge to
> create Nuclear Weapons and inject human stem cells into monkeys. It will
> be no surprise when we get kicked out of our Garden of Eden by God or
> Nature.
>
>"DC" <dcicchetti@urs2.net> wrote:
>So, do you think that Rabin had any more hope of success with these
>people than did Clinton or anyone else?
yes, absolutely. talk about it all as you will, rabin remains
the ONLY person to ever effectively reduce the terror plague down
there. you obviously missed the part where i stressed
that i do acknowledge that both approaches, both the
deescalation
one and the brute force one can lead to success.
thats what i wrote. nothing about cowboys or some such,
thats only the stuff you projected into my words, because
im a (insert yet another dumbass euro stereotype here).
so, yes, i do acknowledge that both roads can lead to success.
do you? it appears you dont, so whos the dogmatic type here?
>No it doesn't, or it would have worked with Hussein, Kim Il Sung,
>Hitler and the Branch Davidians. You are not allowing for insanity
>and evil in the world and you are assuming that a rational person's
>version of a more attractive situation will always be accepted.
from a palaestinian point of view, israel is the aggressor
that took their land. they dont have the military power,
so they go the terror route. being the frakkingeuropacifistidiotdude that
i am, i despise that
just as much, so id prefer it if you dont switch between
calling me a blind pacifist one moment and then a guy
that doesnt criticize palaestina (and thus somewhat supports the use of terror),
whatever fits the best.
from their point of view, theyre actually doing exactly
the same thing - use brute force. they dont have planes,
so they use suicide bombers. if you were on their side,
its what you would recommend. and if the enemy threatened to
use more power, youd recommend that the enemy gets a
demonstration of your force.
somewhere in there lies a fundamental, unsolvable problem.
throw in a ticking clock (islamic countries
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| Re: Attn: piano guys -- HELP!!!! [message #55071 is a reply to message #55044] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 12:51 |
cygnus
Messages: 21
Registered: June 2005
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s your
>post gets over the standard stereotype attitude. it seems to
>help that i repeatedly write about the things i dont
>think, even though it doesnt fit into your arrogant euro pacifist drawer:
Derek, you SAID you were a pacifist, well, except for Bosnia. And I
never ever said anything about being 100% right. I said we must
do what we are doing in the absence of an alternative. You have
not sold me on your alternative yet. Sorry.
>- i acknowledge the use of force as concept to end a conflict.
>it often is the most peaceful way to go.
Ok, so you are not a pacifist. How about taking off the moral
equivilence between Israel and the Palestinians?
>- i dont blindly believe that everything on this world can be
>negotiated
Fair enough, so support us in our war on the ghouls and head-
choppers. If ever there was a time for war this it it.
IM-ever-so-HO of course.
>- im not here because of some anti-US agenda. i have family
>in the US, have been there many times and like it here.
>im only interested in a civiliced discussion about the
>several approaches (yes i dare to believe there are several
>approaches, because of the fact that theres a not too bad
>track record of deescalation in history)
De-escalation is what Spain did, and all those in London paid for it.
This is not the time for de-escalation.
>yes. too bad it wouldnt work because their religious
>fanatic idiots.
But there are millions of muslims (I've known a few myself) who
would never join the ghouls. Maybe the
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| Re: Attn: piano guys -- HELP!!!! [message #55083 is a reply to message #55071] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 20:41 |
Pete Ruthenburg
Messages: 127
Registered: June 2005
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God at all. Perhaps at minimum they
>>have perverted Islam? Your hatred of religion will not offer an
>>alternative.
>no hatred. a very cynical distance though, yes, definetly.
>i did say a few words about personal belief on the one
>hand on huge monotheistic religious institutions on the other hand and whether
>the latter is any good for this planet.
>you can go back and read it if youre interested, but i guess
>for now its enough. and now ill go to bed. all that
>non-non-judgementalism has make me tired. maybe i secrectly am a
>politically correct euro hypocrite after all, but im
>doing my best ;-)
Ah, but if there is a God, then, regardless of the failures of human
denominations, some things are better than others, and God just
may have a preference concerning how we live that lies outside
our ideas, and what you think is good for the planet is likely to be
wrong, as is so for me as well.
Just a thought.
DCThe "old" ones with PCI ver.2.2 sockets are the ones to go for with Paris,
for the most with AMD processors but Intel will do the job well too. Asus
and Epox are good names but I think most of them can do the job with
nForce2, VIA or SIS chipsets for PCI 2.2 cards. A card like Matrox
Millenium G450 or 550 will do the graphical job well but I know cards with
ATI or NVidia chips will do it too. 512MB RAM of good quality, 2 IDE
harddisks, Maxtor, Seagate or WD, 40/160 MB, a DVD/CD burner and an ATX
power supply 400/550w. Most of these things are in regular use here, so it's
more to find out what you will use and can get easily. You can find out more
on internet.
Most of these firms are using their names on internet as www.epox.com
erlilo
"Spappy" <Spappy122@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:42d70819$1@linux...
>I think you guys are right. This computer is way to lame. I need to build a
>new one.
>
> So can you guys give me a list of components
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| Re: Attn: piano guys -- HELP!!!! [message #55085 is a reply to message #55083] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 21:14 |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
Registered: September 2005
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ng famously. Don't get me wrong, this
>kind of discourse is good. It helps us understand each other better, if even
>just a little. My wish is that we can all have these discussions, and even
>when they've been heated, at the end still be the great international
>community of PARIS people. That's it, the ICPP! Well, er...maybe a different
>acronym would be better. Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I
>respect you all, weather we share the same view or not.
>
>Tony
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>On 7/14/05 10:05 PM, in article 42d7280a$
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