| Zippedy do da day!!!!!!!! [message #54736] |
Sun, 19 June 2005 10:58  |
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Deej [3]
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Registered: June 2005
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ly to you, then that's good. It's ugly to
> me
> >> too. When I look at what is happening I see stereotypes, though they
are
> >not
> >> racial, they are cultural, they are constantly evolving and they are
very
> >> real. From around 1965 through 1995 I spent a good part of my life as
> part
> >> of one of these evolving stereotypes.
> >>
> >> I am old compared to most of the folks here, I think. I was born in
1950.
> >> The town where I was born was a small town in the southern US which was
> >full
> >> of hypocracy and racial predjudice. I remember some very ugly things
very
> >> vividly. Without going into a lot of detail about this, the effect of
> this
> >> made me really angry and very willing to believe that there was
something
> >> wrong with what my parents generation was saying, but not doing. I also
> >came
> >> to distrust organized religion at a very early age because of these
> >> experiences and the hypocracy I saw.
> >>
> >> My grandmother had a big hammond organ in her parlor and also a baby
grand
> >> piano. From the time I was about 5 years old, I would climb up on the
> >> benches and play the keys. I was told I had a *good ear* because I
could
> >> listen to the radio songs and figure out how to play them on the keys
> >> (though I couldn't reach the pedals ;o). During the 50's, I lived in
south
> >> Texas (part of the time in Erling's favorite place, Corpus Christi,
Texas)
> >> and travelled across the bo
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| Re: Zippedy do da day!!!!!!!! [message #54743 is a reply to message #54736] |
Sun, 19 June 2005 15:42  |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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gt; >> didn't want to be part of America anymore and I had seen a place during
> my
> >> travels down there where I thought I might be happy. It was a deserted
> >place
> >> with a *feeling* about it. I can't describe it, but others who I have
> met
> >> there who are more travelled than I am tell me they feel the same kind
> of
> >> *energy* there that they have felt in places like Jerusalem, Katmandhu,
> >> Mecca and other locations which are considered to be religious
> >destinations.
> >> In 1973, it was just a deserted beach with a little store owned by a
> >Zapotec
> >> Indian named Ramon Aguilar Villalobos and this exended family, two of
> >which
> >> were his in-laws, Manuel and Maria who basically founded this small
> >village
> >> back in the early 20th century and were very old. I spent a good part
> of
> >my
> >> life in this place and lived with this family during those times from
> 1973
> >> until 1990. Unfortunately, this place is nothing like it used to be and
> >now
> >> even has websites dedicated to it, but I guess that's part of the story
> >> about thie place.
> >> I am going to post a link to this place so that you can see it. You may
> >have
> >> been there or know people who have. There is more to this story but I
> have
> >> work to do today so I will stop now and continue later when I have the
> >time.
> >> This story actually does lead somewhere that is relevant to this
> >> conversation. Sorry it has been so long but you have asked me a
question
> >> that is valid, but not easily answered, so I'll continue later if you
> are
> >> interested. Though I haven't been there for a while, this was my home
> and
> >is
> >> still my second home-
> >>
> >> I know a lot of the people in these pictures. I watched them grow up
and
> >> taught a few of them how to swim and catch fish. the beautiful young
> >woman,
> >> Claudia is the
> >> niece of my friend Ramon. The two people, John and Maria were guests at
> my
> >>
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| Re: Zippedy do da day!!!!!!!! [message #54753 is a reply to message #54736] |
Mon, 20 June 2005 01:38 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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>doug, the "let me explain america to you" part was, of course, pure irony.
but im somehow glad that
you missed it, because it should give you a nice impression
about how your ranting about
the europe you believe to know so much about comes
across to someone who actually does know a thing or two
about europe because he happens to live there.
the sad part being, in your case it wasnt irony.
"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:
>First of all, now I am really astounded at you. You say you know so much
>about America??????? You are also getting your information from a very small
>sample. I know you lived here for a while and have visited here often, but
>you don't live here *now* and you are obviously choosing very carefully
what
>you want to believe. If you want to consider your sources to be any more
>valid than mine, then first consider where your sources are coming from
and
>make sure you consider them all. I will try to do the same..........but
I
>assure you that if you ignore cultural differences which, whether you like
>it or not, are the reasons that stereotypes are created, they you do truly
>have your head buried in the sand.
>
>"derek" <derekvonkrogh@gmx.net> wrote in message news:42d6bf8a$1@linux...
>>
>> wheres the part with the long visits to the countries you seem
>> to know enough about to be sure that your stereotypes are
>> "real"? you are really trying to tell ME (i LIVE here...) that your
>> stereotypes are "the truth" because of the bunch
>> stereotype-ish people that conveniently lived somewhere
>> near you in the last 20 years? you know, i happen to know
>> some americans that live here too. so let me explain to you
>> what america is and how america works, because i do know.
&g
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