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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76731 is a reply to message #76728] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 12:11   |
DJ
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ey are
> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of third
> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
> average
> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
> Again,
> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>
> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
> better
> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>
> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
> copied
> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the aqua
> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip off
> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it for
> years.
>
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>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>Re-invented
>>>> the phone...
>>>
>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>>
>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>
>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
>>with
>>>> the propaganda.
>>>
>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>
>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>>> claim
>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>
>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>
>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
> and
>>>>
>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>
>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have foun
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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76739 is a reply to message #76731] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 13:34 |
AlexPlasko
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>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Howdy.
I need to buy a copy of XP, and the OEM version is nicely inexpensive. Does
Microsoft slap any weird penalties on the home user for buying an OEM
version? Less customer support or something?
Thanks.
JimmyI don't think it's legal. Oem software can only come from the OEM if i'm
correct.
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Howdy.
>
>I need to buy a copy of XP, and the OEM version is nicely inexpensive. Does
>Microsoft slap any weird penalties on the home user for buying an OEM
>version? Less customer support or something?
>
>Thanks.
>Jimmy
>
>It's not the manu's that keep me from using it, it's the apps... or should I
say, lack of full on 64 bit app support.
AA
"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote in message news:45a6ab4c@linux...
> Ummmm... I have a 64bit notebook... but the XP is 32 bit. M$ does have a
> 64bit version, BUT you must purchase it separately (there is no OEM that I
> know if). However, the 64bit has been very very buggy and unstable. In
> fact, if you have a 64bit PC, you can goto M$ and download their version
> free. I am sure it is a demo... but anyway, from what I been reading, the
> 64bit isn't really ready for mainstream computers, and plus very few
> manufacturers are supporting it...
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:45a588c3@linux...
>> I"ve had a 64 bit version of Win XP for at least a year sitting on my
>> desk, possibly longer. Vista is 64 bit. You can bet MacOS will have it
>> soon if they don't already (honestly, just haven't kept an eye on that as
>> it is not even close to affecting me in any way).
>> The problem I see is this: USB and FIREWIRE will end up dominating this,
>> simply because as I'm sure you've all noted, PCI slots are going
>> away/shrinking in number per motherboard. This is an even older issue
>> with Macs. It's coming guys, and IMO I don't think there is much we can
>> do about it.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45a56a69$1@linux...
>>>
>>> They will. it's just not a need right now. Where's the 64bit OS that
>>> will
>>> need 7 slots or even 13 slots???
>>>
>>> "DJ" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76742 is a reply to message #76739] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 13:57 |
DJ
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ey would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>
> problem
>
>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>
>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
>
> 1994!
>
>>I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use the
>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>>A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but you
>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
>
> tinker
>
>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>
> folks.
>
>>Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>
>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was impressed
>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>
> The
>
>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest. My
>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>to arms challenge.
>>
>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is better
>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>>I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
>>it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a smaller
>>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>
> can
>
>>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>>It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you rip
>>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>
>>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>>when your going to bash something.
>>
>>James
>>
>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>
>>>what we all see.
>>>--
>>>Martin Harrington
>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>
>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>>>
>>>>than
>>>>
>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>>
>>are
>>
>>>>perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
>
> third
>
>>>>party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
>>>>time will tell if the iPhone will
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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76745 is a reply to message #76742] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 13:59 |
EK Sound
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>Hi Jimmy,
To buy it legally you have to buy it with some computer hardware i.e.,
mobo, ram, cpu, hd, cd, floppy, ps, etc.
You might as well buy the retail copy at that point.
Chris
Uptown Jimmy wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I need to buy a copy of XP, and the OEM version is nicely inexpensive. Does
> Microsoft slap any weird penalties on the home user for buying an OEM
> version? Less customer support or something?
>
> Thanks.
> Jimmy
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comM$...customer support....is there such a thing?
D
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45a6dd18$1@linux...
> Hi Jimmy,
> To buy it legally you have to buy it with some computer hardware i.e.,
> mobo, ram, cpu, hd, cd, floppy, ps, etc.
>
> You might as well buy the retail copy at that point.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
> Uptown Jimmy wrote:
>> Howdy.
>>
>> I need to buy a copy of XP, and the OEM version is nicely inexpensive.
>> Does
>> Microsoft slap any weird penalties on the home user for buying an OEM
>> version? Less customer support or something?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.comHi Ted and others,
I think the reason(s) why the mention of Steve Jobs and Keynotes brings out
so much venom, as you say, is because of the both the past and even current
lies and propaganda that spews from his mouth..
Statements like : Re-invent and Faster Personal Computer ever in my opinion
is just plain wrong. I know too many had working people who believed His
(Jobs) hype. Only to be sorely disa pointed when they found out that the
Cpu test were rigged, and their Mac did "crash" on both OS8,9 and even OS-X(all
versions).
He (Jobs) usually mocks at windows user and Microsoft when he starts his
keynote.(read: Dumb) When 90 percent of this world are using Windows based
computers.
So, the venom is actually corrections to the lies Mr Jobs spews. When Mac
users come and reguritate Mr Jobs lies, most Windows users will not just
let them get away with such.
I don't see anything wrong with setting the record straight.
P.S.
The Mac Pro is currently thee fastest Personal Computer on the market.. :)
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
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>I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
>in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but
I'm
>not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub
with
>friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
>vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
>platforms in question).
>
>I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
>points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
>injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>no
>control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
Religion
>and
>War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new product
>from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>mockery just makes no sense.
>
>Ted
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
Unlike
>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
I've
>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>built
>>many PCs
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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76747 is a reply to message #76731] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 17:10 |
emarenot
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ople.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>>
>>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone,
the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>>
>>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
>it
>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>>it's
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and
a
>>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a
>Psion
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a
lot
>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if
>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now.
None
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>>has
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76752 is a reply to message #76742] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 14:45 |
AlexPlasko
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ey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is
>it
>>>> a
>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Actually I'm 6th generation Canadian. In fact my wife
just found out she's part Metis. Something to do with
Louis and the boys horsing around a bit East of you 100
years ago or so.
I've been in Calgary a few times since I last saw
you. Been in too much of a rush to drop in. Hopefully next time...
Peace,
Ted
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>You sound like a MAC guy... ;-)
>
>David.
>hehehe
>
>Ted Gerber wrote:
>
>> I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
>> in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but
I'm
>> not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub
with
>> friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
>> vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
>> platforms in question).
>>
>> I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
>> points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
>> injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>> no
>> control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>> things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
Religion
>> and
>> War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new
product
>> from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>> mockery just makes no sense.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
Unlike
>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
I've
>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>>
>> built
>>
>>>many PCs
>>>
>>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
>>>I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but
that's
>>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
>>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>>
>>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all
the
>>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
Some
>>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced
at
>>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like
the
>>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
>>>Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may be
>>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>>
>>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>>>You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here. It's
>>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>>>That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
>>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I
don't
>>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>>
>> problem
>>
>>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>>
>>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using t
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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76762 is a reply to message #76756] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 17:42 |
Neil
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henever someone
>>points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
>>injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>>no
>>control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>>things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
>Religion
>>and
>>War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new product
>>from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>>mockery just makes no sense.
>>
>>Ted
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
>Unlike
>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
>I've
>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sol
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| Re: A question about Cubase 4 [message #76764 is a reply to message #76762] |
Mon, 04 December 2006 17:08 |
DJ
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or audio, don't use
the
>>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>>> A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but
you
>>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
>>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
>>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
>>tinker
>>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>>folks.
>>> Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>>
>>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was
>impressed
>>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
>>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>
>>The
>>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest.
>My
>>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>>to arms challenge.
>>>
>>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is
>better
>>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>>>
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