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Any of you go to reunions? [message #94811]

Thu, 17 January 2008 05:36

dc[3]
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has any right to say any of those things. Personally, I
>believe I am in more danger of hell than someone who lives as
>an honest atheist all their lives and give Jesus a chance on their
>deathbed.
>
>I cannot pass judgment on anyone's eternal destiny.
>
>The question that concerns me this Easter is answering the
>question of what we would see if we could take a time machine
>back to Jesus tomb on early Sunday morning after his death.
>
>Would we see a bunch of guys stealing a body, or would we
>see a resurrected Lord and Saviour?

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94815 is a reply to message #94811]

Thu, 17 January 2008 08:55

Deej
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r /> >>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080321/D8VHSS681.html
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I think it's time to boycott China and their products, there is no sense
>>>in
>>>>supporting this government in any way.
>>>>
>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VELU0G0.html
>>>>
>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VEM3KG0.html
>>>
>>
>That it did. Twilight zone material....

I believe I've heard D'Souza interviewed (PBS maybe) and he seems pretty
observant and has a solid view of Islam as well (I've also heard mid-East
scholars (native Muslims, not Americans) say the same thing he is).

It's hard to point the finger directly at "the left" a

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94816 is a reply to message #94815]

Thu, 17 January 2008 09:23

dc[3]
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s a group since that's
a broad brush stroke, but in general, Islamic extremists are emboldened by
our lack of moral principals as a culture, which as D'Souza points out, is
propagated by the non-conservative side of our country. I also have a feeling
these terrorists really don't need a solid excuse - just a target to hate,
and we fit the bill, as does a good bit of Europe as well (lest Europeans
sit idly by and point an accusing finger at us). This is of course leaving
out a much bigger story of what has been happening to non-Muslims in Sudan,
Iran, Syria, etc for many years. Ours and Europe's time may be coming...

I agree with D'Souza's proposition that an amoral approach in our country
(that is usually called "left" since it isn't conservative by intent or belief)
is doing nothing to help us in the eyes of extremist Islam, and by nature,
propagates a social and moral trend that is obviously offe

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94821 is a reply to message #94815]

Thu, 17 January 2008 10:31

TCB
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y" and I can tell you it was worse
than you think. He'd kick their butts.

I think ole Billy Graham would pass muster though.

>when jesus told
>peter to build the church upon this rock he wasn't speaking of some
>edifice that would take 100 years to build. he was talking about
>faith and all that it entails both the good and the less than good.
>all inclusive, not some exclusive club where only the self proclaimed
>saved were welcomed.

Yes! The true church is invisible and does not have a headquarters!
you are so right.

>but, being humans we feel compelled to make it after our own design.
>something we can understand when truely we can't. we can site phrases
>like "only god know" or "he works in mysterious way" or don't question
>the ways of the lord' because we then don't have to (as god in his
>devine wisdom) endowed us to...is to ask why.

Well we should ask why, and we should challenge God at times, and
I have been very angry with God on occasion. It's OK, he can take it.
Still at the end of the day, we either trust or we do not. I can tell you
that trusting is better. Without a doubt.

>what kind of parent wants his or her child never to ask a question.
>to me, asking doesn't imply disrespect of what is. it says i've got
>the brain you gave me so make me understand; i do. do unto
>others...plain and simple. you do that and there is no need for
>anything else.

But we can't. We are all fallen and lost, and we need a savior. Which
explains why Jesus did what he did. Yes, sometimes atheists live more
moral lives than some Christians, but real Christians are still living
better lives than they would have without him. Going to heaven is
not a work/merit system, which is why my atheist uncle, friend to Madalyn
Murray O'Hare and hater

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94823 is a reply to message #94821]

Thu, 17 January 2008 11:11

D-unit

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e them do unto you. what
>>>else can be said for human behavior. of course not everyone has that
>>>capability due to thier genetic wiring. just as some people can kill
>>>without remorse others cannot accept certain "truths"; it is that
>>>equal deserving of eternal hell according to some religious sects i
>>>find problematic. after all the vengeful god of the old testament
>>>become the god of love in the new and i'm not really feelin' the love
>>>here according to the words of some. (not spoken here but lets be
>>>honest out in the real world you can't swing a dead cat and not hit
>>>someone who is willing to tell you that hell, hades, sheol is your
>>>final destination.
>>>
>>>On 22 Mar 2008 02:42:44 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rick, there's some good insights here. How God works is not
>>>>always transparent to us.
>>>
>>>see, now that's where i think the problem lies. god should know that
>>>we're not going to get the message as he wants us to because we're
>>>human and will translate anything to our own advantage. of all the
>>>things to deserve eternal damnation for (if you believe in it) one
>>>would t

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94835 is a reply to message #94811]

Thu, 17 January 2008 15:49

Gantt Kushner

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gt;>>yourself, read the context, ask questions, and attempt to actually
>>>understand
>>>>>>>>>other people. You just read a single word and extrapolated that
>into
>>>>>>left
>>>>>>>>>field.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This had nothing to do with race. You might has well launched off
>>>a
>>>>>diatribe
>>>>>>>>>on the problems with meteor storms on Pluto.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And in case you were wondering, by "fabric" I meant guts to stand
>>up
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>what you believe in with integrity, honor and respect, but without
>>>any
>>>>>>>pansy,
>>>>>>>>>pacifist whining and hiding behind labels and stereotypes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Btw - posting like this without your real name is cowardly and destroys
>>>>>>

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94837 is a reply to message #94815]

Thu, 17 January 2008 16:16

John [1]
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t;>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>played if racism was'nt true and alive today! You may look at
my
>>>comments
>>>>>>>>>>as detour
>>>>>>>>>>into left field,but my comments are directed at your comment about
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>"fabric"
>>>>>>>>>>of are country. The truth is almost all the founding fathers were
>>>slave
>>>>>>>>>owners,and
>>>>>>>>>>some only freed their slaves after they died. Now there is one
thing
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>agree
>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>with you is that this place has gone way down!
>>

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94841 is a reply to message #94811]

Thu, 17 January 2008 19:08

chuck duffy
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yah.com" target="_blank">bla-bla@yah.com> wrote in message news:47e3dde1$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The fabric of are nation? What is that? Salvery? segragation?
>>>racisim?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> KKK?
>>>>>>>>>>>> self-righteousness!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've heard two separate commentaries (one a major news agency,
>>>the
>>>>>>>oth

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94843 is a reply to message #94811]

Thu, 17 January 2008 19:38

Aaron Allen

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ombers, sarin gas, and extremist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>protests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The news agency report basically said exactly what you are DJ
>>-
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>US
>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>doing the same thing - bowing down and letting our "pacifist"
>>leftwing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>veil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of "peace" and "equality" and "justice" dupe us into giving
up
>>>those
>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94844 is a reply to message #94811]

Thu, 17 January 2008 19:41

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

ideals, playing right into the hands of extremism and even terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the paradox that's become our country. And this is just
>>>>one
>>>>>>>>case
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>how the left is ironically proposing and touting exactly the
>opposite
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>what is the fabric of our country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>DT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 3/21/08 7:49 AM, in article 47e3bffd@linux, "Mr. Simplicity"
>>>>>>>>>>>>><noway@jose.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't this cute?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://markhumphrys.com/left.islamic.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94849 is a reply to message #94811]

Fri, 18 January 2008 02:52

rick

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/> >>>>>ones
>>>>>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't quite understand that they will be the first to be slaughtered
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have thrown a wrench in the gears of those who are willing
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. They just do not get it. The Islamists parrot the leftist
>>>>>>American
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Imperialist tripe that the leftists love to hear and ascribe
>>>to
>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94850 is a reply to message #94811]

Fri, 18 January 2008 02:56

Sarah

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the Islamists do it by design, to dupe the left into helping
>>>>>>>them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy the protectors of the culture that the left hopes
to
>>>protect
>>>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to appease those who will not be appeased until the
>leftists
>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either dead or are kneeling toward Mecca. Once it is too late,
>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whine about how pissed off they are that there's no separation
>>>>>between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mosque and state...right before they are separated from their
>>>>heads.
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognized it years ago. So did lots of other people.....funny,
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear a peep out of OBama though.
>>>>>>>>>>>&

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94855 is a reply to message #94815]

Fri, 18 January 2008 07:18

Rod Lincoln
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Looks like Creamware is staying in the game in a big way. Good to see. Now
if this could just be used as a realtime VST plugin........(sigh).No they have not.. Not any of them. The conservative media has tried to "marginalize"
Rev Jackson and Sharpton for speaking and revealing the truth.

Aaron one great American Fredrick Douglas stated that " Aa true patriot
is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins."

So, are we as citizens of this nation not to speak out against injustices
that still exist today? I wish for God that we did not a predijuce and racism
in this country. Believe or not most African Americans are TIRED of it. It's
OLD.. But, you still have folks who hate and marginalize because of thier
heritage and skin color. So, yes to many Rev Jackson Sharpon, Farrakan, Panthers
are heros for standing up and fighting for their causes.. I'm sorry if you
don;t understand that..

There's not double standard here.

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>and I'm sure MalcolmX, Jesse Jackson or the Black Panthers would have/never

>have, ever omitted or rug swept truth.
>C'mon dude, that's a double bladed knife and throwing daggers at each other

>ain't helping any of us.
>
>> The Bull-shit American History I'm talking about is the one that was
>> "taught

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Re: Any of you go to reunions? [message #94862 is a reply to message #94849]

Fri, 18 January 2008 09:39

dc[3]
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n here,but I think its time for me to say goodbye. Since
>I no longer
>own PARIS and I don't care to talk about politics and religion I'm moving
>along.
>All the best to everyon

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