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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78110 is a reply to message #78107] |
Tue, 09 January 2007 21:17   |
excelav
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;>>>>>Jon
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>Jon, I've heard the horror stories too. With any manufacture it's the luck
of the draw. Tascam only has a 90 day warranty. Like I said, clear your
slate and try one out for 30 days first. You could try to get the reseller
to agree to a return for a longer period of time if the product turns out
to be defective. Don't let the dealer try to talk you in to something else.
Remember, you could also get a good one too! For the money, I think it's
the way to go.
Good luck with your choice, and let us know what you end up doing.
James
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Thanks LaMont -
>
>I had considered keeping some of my Paris rig to use as a glorified mastering
>deck. Sounds like that's what you're suggesting here as a possible solution.
>
>I just finished talking to guy who is selling his 02r96v2 (which I've now
>determined is way out of my price range - even used) and he shared an absolute
>Tascam customer service horror story regarding a DM-24 he owned. 4 bad power
>supplies, LCD failed, lost studio time (had to ship it back something like
>6 times - from Hawaii!!!!) and Tascam apparently never did make it right
>for him.
>
>Hopefully they got it right with the new boards because the resounding impression
>I'm getting of Tascam's willingness/ability to stand behind their products
>is the only thing causing hesitation for me right now.
>
>Cheers,
>Jon
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>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>>Hey Jon,
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>>Trust me, the marriage of the Tascam 3200 & Cuabse 4 is a match made in
>heaven.
>>You will not miss the Paris sound.
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>>However to not throw away your Paris investment(s), instead of summing
out
>>of the 3200..you can...
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>>Another way.. 3200 out via SP/Dif. into Paris Mec/442 SP/dif..for just
a
>>stereo sum .. Again, good sound.
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>>3200 master (analog outs) into Paris MEC/442.. 24bit(input Card)..then
24bit
>>out car
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78120 is a reply to message #78110] |
Tue, 09 January 2007 23:48 |
Martin Harrington
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use at higher sample rates so with my POD Pro, Mytek Stereo AD/DA
> converters and DAC-1 (all of which operate at up to 96k) on my AD4-DD and my
> outboard gear on a pair of ADI8-DD's, I will have more than enough
> additional optical ports to handle everything else and can operate all audio
> I/O routing through a single PCI card. It's more flexible than using the 3 x
> HDSP cards and when the price of 2 x 64 bit Magma's (ne for the HDSP cards,
> the other for the RME cards) vs one (for just the RME cards), or even the
> possibility of needing none (if a new FW, etc. model comes out) or if I can
> configure all of my UAD-1 cards and the MADI PCI in the 5 PCI slots of my
> mobo without IRQ wars, the numbers start looking a lot more attractive.
>
> Deej
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bd74e2$1@linux...
>> Thanks Chris,
>>
>> I've been crunching the I/O port numbers here. I was coming up short on
>> I/O with the MADI so I am reconsidering the MADI . When I think in terms
>> of these systems, I think of the number of I/O ports since I interface a
>> lot of digital gear. My current HDSP rig (2 x 9652's and a Multiface PI)
>> totals 7 x optical I/O ports and 3 stereo coax ports, all usable
>> separately.
>>
>> The MADI rig with the ADAT bridge would then give me 8 optical ports
>> (either ADAT or spdif optical......right?) on the MADI bridge plus another
>> spdif optical port on the card for a total of nine that I could interface
>> with outboard devices and use simultaneously.........correct, or no?
>>
>> Now, if I added my Multiface to this setup, I would be compromising the
>> single PCI card scenario (which appeals to me) for another ADAT port, plus
>> another stereo coax port. This would give me a total of 10 - equal to what
>> I would have with the 3 xHDSP cards I currently use (or 11 if the one on
>> the plate of the MADi card can be used simultaneously), but a net gain of
>> yet another open port because I wouldn't be sacrificing an ADAT port on
>> the MADI bridge for an external A/D converter.
>>
>> I was wanting to be using as few PCI cards as possible with my setup and
>> three HDSP's along with 4 x Magmas seems like I'm pushing the ragged edge
>> as far as PCI bandwidth goes, but right now, with the GA-K7N8s mobo, it's
>> working. I'm wondering right now, since my performance is good, what the
>> realadvantage would be to going MADI if I have to have the Multiface to
>> achieve the I/O ports I need.
>>
>> Given that a system is running properly with either card, does the MADI
>> system achieve better performance/latency than an HDSP card if used solo?
>>
>> If so, do you think that adding a Muliface to the MADI system for the
>> ex
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78129 is a reply to message #78110] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 08:18 |
TCB
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I can write code and such, but if you wanted you
>> could
>> >even install some awful version of Windows.
>> >
>> >Very cool, and I'm posting this from my new audio laptop running a Debian
>> >VM,
>> >
>> >TCB
>>
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
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>Carl,
>
>I'm not really sure. They were all developed 100% on XP. The only thing
>I can think of is that you have an older version (ie bought it the second
>it came out :-). You can always go to www.greatidea.com/downloads to pick
>up the version that works for everyone else (hahaha).
>
>Chuck
Hey Chuck, while you're reading this... can you port NoLimit
to VST? Is it possible, and within the realms of the code
licence you aquired from the Emusians?
I'll give you a couple hundred $ if you can. Not much, I know,
for codework, but hey I'm just one guy and I'm willing to put
some bucks where my request is.
Neil"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Hi chris,
>
>I figured to just run at 88.2. I liked Neil's clips.
Why? It's been made pretty clear that I know nothing about
recording, and today I found out I know nothing about
acoustics, either.
NeilSo you just totally suck????
Damn dude!!! Well, I still like ya'
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45be836c$1@linux...
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> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Hi chris,
>>
>>I figured to just run at 88.2. I liked Neil's clips.
>
> Why? It's been made pretty clear that I know nothing about
> recording, and today I found out I know nothing about
> acoustics, either.
>
> NeilApparently, so - therefore you'd be well-advised to make me the
last guy whose techniques you'd want to emulate.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>So you just totally suck????
>
>Damn dude!!! Well, I still like ya'
>
>;o)
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45be836c$1@linux...
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>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>Hi chris,
>>>
>>>I figured to just run at 88.2. I liked Neil's clips.
>>
>> Why? It's been made pretty clear that I know nothing about
>> recording, and today I found out I know nothing about
>> acoustics, either.
>>
>> Neil
>
>Hold on partner!! :) I think Sun Servers will get the new 4
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78132 is a reply to message #78120] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 09:46 |
excelav
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w im gonna save this as a desktop back ground
DJ wrote:
DJ wrote:
> all I've go to do is pull these up and remember what fun it was to maintain
> and troubleshoot this.
>
> Heck......I might even get myself a computer case pretty soon and start
> behaving like a normal person.
> ;o)
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> all I've go to do is pull these up and remember what fun it was to maintain
> and troubleshoot this.
>
> Heck......I might even get myself a computer case pretty soon and start
> behaving like a normal person.
> ;o)
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comhttp://www.modernplugins.in-tw.com/
These sound almost like emulations that sound almost like the real thing.
(actually I haven't dl'd these. I'll let someone else on kvr-vst.com check
them for viruses
and crash generating code. They might actually be good for all I know).
dtNo way dude. I've got to suck up to native guys bigtime in order to survive
now.....at least until I figure out a way to bastardize this new system to
the point that no one but me recognizes how to use it, or would want to.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45be84c7$1@linux...
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> Apparently, so - therefore you'd be well-advised to make me the
> last guy whose techniques you'd want to emulate.
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>So you just totally suck????
>>
>>Damn dude!!! Well, I still like ya'
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45be836c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Hi chris,
>>>>
>>>>I figured to just run at 88.2. I liked Neil's clips.
>>>
>>> Why? It's been made pretty clear that I know nothing about
>>> recording, and today I found out I know nothing about
>>> acoustics, either.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
>Dimitrios,
Didn't know if you had tried it, but whether you use their stuff or not,
Auralex will do a free analysis of the room for you. I sent them a
diagram of the room and budget numbers and they sent back suggestions
based on that budget. THe important thing for mine was the location of
the bass traps.
Room works great and a couple other engineers who have come in have
commented on the the "evenness" of the room being a good thing.
Just a thought,
Hoov
Dimitrios wrote:
> Thanks all for your posts !
> Dear Don in your sketch (your room right ?) there is no glass in beetween
> the monitors.
> In this studio there is.
> What would you actaully suggest based on this very control room and recording
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78138 is a reply to message #78129] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 10:14 |
excelav
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t;"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote in message news:45be9216@linux...
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>>>http://www.modernplugins.in-tw.com/
>>>
>>>These sound almost like emulations that sound almost like the real thing.
>>>
>>>(actually I haven't dl'd these. I'll let someone else on kvr-vst.com
>
>
>>>check them for viruses
>>>and crash generating code. They might actually be good for all I know).
>>>
>>>dt
>>>
>>
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>Hi Neil,
rar is just another compression format. Winrar will unzip them (shareware).
Check tucows.com for file compression utilities. The plugins aren't quite
UAD-1 replacements, but not bad for freeware I guess. The limiters aren't
too good - tend to distort too easily, which kind of defeats the purpose.
re: scoring - I have everything tied together via gigabit lan, running Midi
Over Lan for midi
(seriously cool app - multiple ports, 16 channels each, multiple PC licenses
and more efficient
than hardware, and cheaper - works amazingly well).
I run lightpipe between RME cards for audio. Everything is routed back
through Totalmix and to the main monitors.
Basically Nuendo is setup with a few templates for different uses. I load
part of the orchestra on each system
in Kontakt (standalone) and have tracks already defined and routed via MOL
from Nuendo to each instrument on
the remotes. Once everything is loaded up, I have access to whatever I need
just be selecting the appropriate track. It's faster than loading only what
I need
as I go.
I usually run midi/tempo synced plugins in Nuendo itself as Kontakt doesn't
receive
external external midi clock in standalone mode, but with other
standalone VSTi's, that's no problem via MOL. I'll probably pick up VST
stack here
soon to be able to load other VSTi's remotely as well.
Regards,
Dedric
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45bea708$1@linux...
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> How do you unzip those things? I've seen that ".rar" extension
> before and I know it's some kind of compression algo, but what
> utility do you need to de-stuff it?
>
> Hey Dedric, also meant to ask you - you had said before (IIRC)
> that you do film scoring stuff, and you use several PC's at once
> due to all the VSTi's, etc... how do you sync & monitor those?
> Are they MIDI-synced & you monitor through a console, or what?
>
> Neil
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>Okay, I found a thread on them on kvr-vst so they are legit; and tried
>>them - no comment on quality yet
>>as I'm just running some loops through them quickly, but for freeware they
>>might be cool to have around.
>>
>>Sorry for the stereotype...not really fair.
>>
>>dt
>>
>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote in message news:45be9
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78139 is a reply to message #78133] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 10:27 |
excelav
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216@linux...
>>> http://www.modernplugins.in-tw.com/
>>>
>>> These sound almost like emulations that sound almost like the real
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> (actually I haven't dl'd these. I'll let someone else on kvr-vst.com
>
>>> check them for viruses
>>> and crash generating code. They might actually be good for all I know).
>>>
>>> dt
>>>
>>
>>
>In addition to come valid points that some other folks made,
now that I've looked at this photo again, I can tell you a
couple things right off the bat that are going to help even
BEFORE you start treating the room (or even after, in a couple
of these instances):
1.) Get some Mo-Pads under the speakers - do this even if
there's no room to put the speakers on stands behind the desk
like Gantt suggested. It'll decouple them from the desktop.
2) Get the speakers up higher - again the idea of stands would
work, but if there's no way to do that... can't tell how much
room there is behind the CR chair, but I can tell there's
SOMETHING there not too far behind the chair (right down at the
bottom left of the shot) - I assume that bookcase or set of
shelves or rack, or whatever it is, is there for a reason... if
that reason is that it's right up against the wall, then his
listening position is kinda close for those monitors, methinks.
You've got to get the speakers up to ear level, anyway. Right
now it looks like the tweets are even below ear level for a
setup that close. Try something like placing some bricks under
the speakers, then Mo-pads in between the bricks & the speakers.
It aint ncessarily pretty, but then neither are stacks of books.
3.) Get rid of that damn padded high-back chair! I assume
unless the guy is either super-tall or super-short that the back
of that chair is just above or right at shoulder level... right
below what? His ears. If he's kinda short & the top of the
chair comes up near the top of his head, then he's really
screwed, because the rear listening surface is no longer the
back wall, it's the back of the chair. Any guesses on how much
sound that chair is fucking with in those kind of close
listening quarters like that? (hint: the answer is "a lot!").
Those chairs are great for me to sit here & type things on the
Paris newsgroup (which is what I'm doing as I sit in one just
like it), but they're really, really bad to mix in. Why do you
think every studio that can afford Herman-Miller Aerons in the
control room, has them? They're comfy, high-backed, but the
webbing lets the sound right through the back! No sonic
weirdness! He needs a low back chair or something "like" an
Aeron (they're like $1,500 apeice, but there are cheap
clones... probably made in China... probably at the 737
factory :D )
4.) Further, with regard to the bookcase/rack/whatever it is
behind the chair... again that kinda concerns me that he's just
stuffed in kinda close to the speakers with no option to move
back a bit & let things breathe... is the room longer side to
side than it is front to back? If so, I think that's a problem
too - there are control rooms like that, but they're much bigger
control rooms, like maybe 28' long & 18' deep, not 8' front-to-
back. I've mixed in a wider-than-long control room before &
it sucked; and it was about 12' to 14' deep, by maybe 20' wide.
Still sucked. If it is wider than it is long, then he might
consider trying a swap so that the speakers are on what's
currently one of the side walls - yeah, the CR window would be
on one side or the other in that config, but his listening
position could actually be PAST the glass, which would mean
he'd only have to look at a
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78141 is a reply to message #78133] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 09:55 |
Jamie K
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this would work better with that foam on one wall & not the
opposite one - dunno what you've got on the two walls we can't
see. It won't be left-right symmetrical just to to test it, but
it might be worth a try to see if it gives the sound a bit more
chance to develop.
6.) I don't actually know what I'm talking about, so just ignore
everything I just typed.
Neil
<musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>
>
>Here is the control room picture.
>Thanks,
>DimitriosI work with Brian McRae a lot here in town--he has aon
online service:
www.drumoverdubs.com
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
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>
>I'd recommend Rod Lincoln or Aaron Allen or Don Nafe...or........who am
=
>I leaving out? .
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:45be966d@linux...
> I've been thinking about trying out one of these guys that does his =
>drummin' thing via the internet. Seems to be a fair number of choices.
=
>The rates, from (so far) a low of 80.00 per track to a high of 120.00, =
>seem very reasonable. Have any of you tried out this kind of service?
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>Have you worked with anyone that you'd recommend to a fellow Paris dude?
> Hats off,
> MR
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>Ya know for a know for a guitar player you have some great insight
:-)
you're right they are monitoring against the long wall...not good
Don
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45beb245$1@linux...
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> In addition to come valid points that some other folks made,
> now that I've looked at this photo again, I can tell you a
> couple things right off the bat that are going to help even
> BEFORE you start treating the room (or even after, in a couple
> of these instances):
>
> 1.) Get some Mo-Pads under the speakers - do this even if
> there's no room to put the speakers on stands behind the desk
> like Gantt suggested. It'll decouple them from the desktop.
>
> 2) Get the speakers up higher - again the idea of stands would
> work, but if there's no way to do that... can't tell how much
> room there is behind the CR chair, but I can tell there's
> SOMETHING there not too far behind the chair (right down at the
> bottom left of the shot) - I assume that bookcase or set of
> shelves or rack, or whatever it is, is there for a reason... if
> that reason is that it's right up against the wall, then his
> listening position is kinda close for those monitors, methinks.
> You've got to get the speakers up to ear level, anyway. Right
> now it looks like the tweets are even below ear level for a
> setup that close. Try something like placing some bricks under
> the speakers, then Mo-pads in between the bricks & the speakers.
> It aint ncessarily pretty, but then neither are stacks of books.
>
> 3.) Get rid of that damn padded high-back chair! I assume
> unless the guy is either super-tall or super
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Wed, 10 January 2007 14:02 |
Martin Harrington
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ng it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>> CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>> NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>> kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>> convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>> better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>
>> Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>> about this myself.
>>
>> NeilNo blood, no foul.
Regards to you as well, and as always, cheers,
TCB
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>No you weren't too harsh - you were right. I deserved it.
>
>> be open to some really exciting coding talent that might come from unexpected
>places.
>
>Absolutely - hardware development included.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 1/30/07 12:11 AM, in article 45bee196$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>wrote:
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>>
>> I did miss that follow up, you're right. Didn't mean to be too harsh,
but
>> because of my day job I see the spectacular dedication and quality that
>> Chinese
>> and Indian programmers have. It's awe inspiring, to be honest. I apologize
>> if my reponse was a bit harsh. Let's call it quits and be open to some
really
>> exciting coding talent that might come from unexpected places.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> Thad - you missed my follow up post where I retracted this comment, but
>> that
>>> was too late anyway.
>>>
>>> You are right, my joke wasn't funny, or even a joke - it was supposed
to
>> be
>>> a take off on the whole C1 vs. U87 "debate" that rooted itself in the
pro
>>> audio community for several years, not a slight on the developers or
the
>>> Chinese in general. I apologize.
>>>
>>> There's nothing wrong with these plugins - they aren't superb, but the
>>> developer is on the right track and I hope he keeps going strong with
these,
>>> eventually making money off of them, competing with the best of them.
Other
>>> than some issues with the limiters, they are better than most freeware
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>> I tried all of them just to give them a chance - good ideas there. Yes,
>> you
>>> are right, and even the whole "Chinese mic" stereotype is ill-conceived
>> and
>>> unfair.
>>>
>>> I changed the subject to keep from propagating the poor analogy.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/29/07 10:26 PM, in article 45bec905$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, they're from China. Therefore they're 'emulations of emulations?'
>> Because
>>>> that's not in the least bit, well, you know, kind of, uh, racial
>>>> stereotyping?
>>>> Right? Those Orientals, well, they're good at copying, but that's all.
>> Right?
>>>> All the good ideas come from here where, you know, Europeans live. Those
>>>> other people just rip off our good ideas and make them cheaper.
>>>>
>>>> Dedric, you're a good guy, I know that from all of the posts I've seen
>> from
>>>> you here. But there are incredibly brilliant coders in China and India
>> right
>>>> now trying to make a living doing what they love. Some of them will
do
>> audio
>>>> DSP. Dismissing them out of hand, simply because they are from China,
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Wed, 10 January 2007 14:07 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
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>> well,
>>>> it's repellant.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Neil,
No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
Hoov
Neil wrote:
> Jeff...
>
> Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
> shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
> Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
> system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
> horsepower & torque.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>
>>Neil,
>>
>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>
>
>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>
>
>>into the Magma.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>
>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>
>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>
>>>
>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>
>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>model).
>>>
>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>
>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>
>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>
>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>about this myself.
>>>
>>>Neil
>
>Thad says that the shared video memory is a major issue with OTR
boxes... he knows a lot more about computers than I do, so I'm
kinda hesitant to try one. A guy I know that's pretty hip on
PC's (but knows nothing about audio, or configuring them for
audio, unfortunately) says that there's a way to disable that,
but you have to physically disconnect the onboard video
hardware after installing a separate video card. So, bang-
for-horsepower-buck-wise, you can definitely get a damn good
deal on some OTR PC's, but I don't know how much the issue
above would render that meaningless if Thad's spot-on. I really
don't have a clue, personally, as I've never tried an OTR PC's
mobo in any of my DAW rigs.
Neil
Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
>using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
>that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
>would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
>comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
>of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
>
>Hoov
>
>Neil wrote:
>> Jeff...
>>
>> Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
>> shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
>> Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
>> system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
>> horsepower & torque.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>
>>>Neil,
>>>
>>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>>
>>
>>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>>
>>
>>>into the Magma.
>>>
>>>Hoov
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run
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Wed, 10 January 2007 15:29 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks
as
>>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>>
>>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>>model).
>>>>
>>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>>
>>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>>
>>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>>
>>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>>about this myself.
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>
>>Yeh, typical video stinks on these things. I dropped a MSI dual head
card in it and it has been fine (it's GeForce 5200 based). So internal
expansion slots are as follows
AGP- 5200 video
PCI1-Multiface card
PCI2-Magma interface
PCI3-Turtle beach Catalina (to get Windows sound digital to a Benchmark
DAC1)
Only 3 PCI slots on this board
Onboard video and audio disabled
In the magma
4- EDS cards
1- promise ATA card (recording hard drives in magma).
Like I said cleaning the software is a pain. I actually immediately
reinstalled XP when I got it, loaded the latest drivers and followed the
process for an XP setup. No major hitches.
Hoov
Neil wrote:
> Thad says that the shared video memory is a major issue with OTR
> boxes... he knows a lot more about computers than I do, so I'm
> kinda hesitant to try one. A guy I know that's pretty hip on
> PC's (but knows nothing about audio, or configuring them for
> audio, unfortunately) says that there's a way to disable that,
> but you have to physically disconnect the onboard video
> hardware after installing a separate video card. So, bang-
> for-horsepower-buck-wise, you can definitely get a damn good
> deal on some OTR PC's, but I don't know how much the issue
> above would render that meaningless if Thad's spot-on. I really
> don't have a clue, personally, as I've never tried an OTR PC's
> mobo in any of my DAW rigs.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>
>>Neil,
>>
>>No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
>>using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
>>that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
>>would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
>>comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
>
>
>>of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>Jeff...
>>>
>>>Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
>&
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Wed, 10 January 2007 14:46 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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s - Native takes a shitload more
>>>horsepower & torque.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Neil,
>>>>
>>>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>
>
>>>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>>>
>>>
>>>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>>>
>>>
>>>>into the Magma.
>>>>
>>>>Hoov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks
>
> as
>
>>>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>>>
>>>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>>>model).
>>>>>
>>>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>>>
>>>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>>>about this myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>By the way, I just disabled video and audio in the BIOS.
Hoov
Neil wrote:
> Thad says that the shared video memory is a major issue with OTR
> boxes... he knows a lot more about computers than I do, so I'm
> kinda hesitant to try one. A guy I know that's pretty hip on
> PC's (but knows nothing about audio, or configuring them for
> audio, unfortunately) says that there's a way to disable that,
> but you have to physically disconnect the onboard video
> hardware after installing a separate video card. So, bang-
> for-horsepower-buck-wise, you can definitely get a damn good
> deal on some OTR PC's, but I don't know how much the issue
> above would render that meaningless if Thad's spot-on. I really
> don't have a clue, personally, as I've never tried an OTR PC's
> mobo in any of my DAW rigs.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>
>>Neil,
>>
>>No problem. I've started running a multiface w/Cubase SX3 on it (just
>>using paris in Live mode), but haven't had high enough track counts in
>>that scenario to tax the proc. My concern with off the shelf boxes
>>would probably lie more in compatibility. Horsepower would be
>>comparable to a custom build with similar proc, after you strip out all
>
>
>>of the consumer channel software that muddies up the water.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>>Jeff...
>>>
>>>Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
>>>shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
>>>Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
>>>system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
>>>horsepower & torque.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Neil,
>>>>
>>>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>
>
>>>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>>>
>>>
>>>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>>>
>>>
>>>>into the Magma.
>>>>
>>>>Hoov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Paul Artola <
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Wed, 10 January 2007 15:34 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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href="mailto:artola@comcast.net" target="_blank">artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks
>
> as
>
>>>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>>>
>>>>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>>>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>>>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>>>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>>>>model).
>>>>>
>>>>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>>>
>>>>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>>>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>>>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>>>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>>>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>>>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>>>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>>>>about this myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>you know, living longer has it's downside too...i'm just saying...
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:12:56 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>Thank you guys for all this great suggestions !!!
Dimitrios
"Ne
il" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>In addition to come valid points that some other folks made,
>now that I've looked at this photo again, I can tell you a
>couple things right off the bat that are going to help even
>BEFORE you start treating the room (or even after, in a couple
>of these instances):
>
>1.) Get some Mo-Pads under the speakers - do this even if
>there's no room to put the speakers on stands behind the desk
>like Gantt suggested. It'll decouple them from the desktop.
>
>2) Get the speakers up higher - again the idea of stands would
>work, but if there's no way to do that... can't tell how much
>room there is behind the CR chair, but I can tell there's
>SOMETHING there not too far behind the chair (right down at the
>bottom left of the shot) - I assume that bookcase or set of
>shelves or rack, or whatever it is, is there for a reason... if
>that reason is that it's right up against the wall, then his
>listening position is kinda close for those monitors, methinks.
>You've got to get the speakers up to ear level, anyway. Right
>now it looks like the tweets are even below ear level for a
>setup that close. Try something like placing some bricks under
>the speakers, then Mo-pads in between the bricks & the speakers.
>It aint ncessarily pretty, but then neither are stacks of books.
>
>3.) Get rid of that damn padded high-back chair! I assume
>unless the guy is either super-tall or super-short that the back
>of that chair is just above or right at shoulder level... right
>below what? His ears. If he's kinda short & the top of the
>chair comes up near the top of his head, then he's really
>screwed, because the rear listening surface is no longer the
>back wall, it's the back of the chair. Any guesses on how much
>sound that chair is fucking with in those kind of close
>listening quarters like that? (hint: the answer is "a lot!").
>Those chairs are great for me to sit here & type things on the
>Paris newsgroup (which is what I'm doing as I sit in one just
>like it), but they're really, really bad to mix in. Why do you
>think every studio that can afford Herman-Miller Aerons in the
>control room, has them? They're comfy, high-backed, but the
>webbing lets the sound right through the back! No sonic
>weirdness! He needs a low back chair or something "like" an
>Aeron (they're like $1,500 apeice, but there are cheap
>clones... probably made in China... probably at the 737
>factory :D )
>
>4.) Further, with regard to the bookcase/rack/whatever it is
>behind the chair... again that kinda concerns me that he's just
>stuffed in kinda close to the speakers with no option to move
>back a bit & let things breathe... is the room longer side to
>side than it is front to back? If so, I think that's a problem
>too - there are control rooms like that, but they're much bigger
>control rooms, like maybe 28' long & 18' deep, not 8' front-to-
>back. I've mixed in a wider-than-long control room before &
>it sucked; and it was about 12' to 14' deep, by maybe 20' wide.
>Still sucked. If it is wider than it is long, then he might
>consider trying a swap so that the speakers are on what's
>currently one of the side walls - yeah, the CR window would be
>on one side or the other in that config, but his listening
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Wed, 10 January 2007 15:47 |
excelav
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pliment, but think about it... if I couldn't
> hear what I was doing, it wouldn't matter if I had one year of
> of experience, or a thousand. I'm not saying: "work in a shitty
> acoustic environment because it's fun when you've got more of a
> challenge, mates!", I'm saying that you should let the room be
> the room and treat it minimally in terms of absorption because:
>
> 1.) You're right what you say about physics, and based on that,
> no amount of bass trapping or other treatment is going to
> COMPLETELY overcome the ENTIRE structure surrounding the space
> you're working in. No practical or realistic amount, anyway.
>
> 2.) Hence, there is no "perfect" environment.
> (Again, if there was, every top-notch studio would have this
> exact same "perfect" environment, yes?).
>
> 3.) The best mixing environment is one you're used to.
>
> 4.) The best recording environment is one you know how to make
> work for instrument "a" or vocal "b".
>
> 5.) If you overtreat a room, you've got a room with no "life"
> to it. This goes for recording rooms (70's drum sounds,
> anyone?) AND mixing rooms (ever sit an anechoic chamber? I've
> been in a near-anechoic one... your eardrums sound like they
> "compress" when the door closes - that, or any degree OF that,
> can't be good for mixing, can it?).
>
> 6.) Skip six... numerologically, it would bring bad karma to
> this thread.
>
> 7.) You don't need near as many bass traps as Ethan Winer &
> various mode calculating spreadsheets might suggest... most
> of you HAVE bass traps already built in... walls that are
> constructed of drywall with an air gap & then sheet insulation
> behind them fastened to the other side of the interior wall...
> hmmm....? Sound familiar? :) Kinda just like.... oh, I
> dunno - A BASS TRAP???
>
> 8.) You probably DO need SOME trapping, though, and if you can
> trap a little bit of bass & get rid of standing waves to the
> point where they'd be even as ridiculously high as -30 or
> -40db, you could probably get a decent mix in a shower stall -
> assuming you've done more than a handful of mixes in said
> shower stall.
>
> 9.) Bigger is better, #8 notwithstanding.
>
> 10.) Don't "overspeaker" the room - if you've got a 10' throw
> to the room, you do NOT need soffit-mounted Westlake Audio's
> with the 15" woofs... for most (not all, depends on dimensions)
> home/project studios I think anything more than nearfields are
> a waste other than to give the band something to RAWK OUT TO!,
> while you're tracking.
>
> 11.) I can't think of a #11... I was just on a roll & couldn't
> stop typing in time.
>
>
> Neil"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
You said:
***On the downside I do have an anomaly...the sound coming from
my left speaker is louder than the right...now I initially
thought signal chain and tested every individual component in
my monitoring chain from the MEC to the speakers including
having all the components tested and everything is in proper
working order so after much discussion with a few more
knowledgeable people in the field I (we) have come to the
conclusion that the difference in wall construction of the two
exterior walls vs the interior walls, as well as the windows
that are on my long wall are the main cause of the
problem....the fix...well the easiest was to just adjust the
volume on the amp...do some mixes and test them...so far so
good but come spring I'm going to look at this and other areas
(mentioned above) and see if a cost effective solution can be
found.***
Which proves what I said, in that:
***You're right what you say about physics, and based on that,
>> no amount of bass trapping or other treatment is going to
>> COMPLETELY overcome the ENTIRE structure surrounding the space you're
working in. No practical or realistic amount,
anyway.
>>
>> 2.) Hence, there is no "perfect" environment.***
Which further validates all my statements that followed.
So I don't know what you're 'agreeing to disagree' with me on.
NeilThat is exactly why I chose to go with the creamware
AA
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45bee72d$1@linux...
>
> Jeff...
>
> Thanks for that info, but I was referring to (and maybe I
> shoulda been clearer) running Native on an OTR PC... running
> Paris is a little (OK, a LOT!) different than running a Native
> system, due to the DSP in Paris - Native takes a shitload more
> horsepower & torque.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite-DOT-com> wrote:
>>Neil,
>>
>>I've been running my system in an "off the rack" Gateway 3Ghz box for
>>about a year and a half. Haven't had the hours in that time that a lot
>
>>of you get but it has been rock solid steady since I moved all EDS cards
>
>>into the Magma.
>>
>>Hoov
>>
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am contemplating doing the same thing, minus the Creamware cards.
>>>>Basically want a decent XP box to run UAD and other plugs. Looks like
>>>>I will have RME i/o at the heart of it and going cheap with NTracks as
>>>>my VST instantiator.
>>>>
>>>>I am still configuring this setup, but basically looking to get a UAD
>>>>Ultra Pak card, 2 RME multifaces (actually the Steinberg NUENDO
>>>>models) + 2 PCI HDSP cards, and a cheap PC. Dell has a Pentium4
>>>>(2.8GHz, IIRC) with 512Mb, 80gig drive and XP Home for $349. I would
>>>>probably add another 512Mb on top, since graphics are shared.
>>>>
>>>>Any suggestions or comments?
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>>
>>> Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>> like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>> Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>> range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>> model).
>>>
>>> Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>>
>>> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>>
>>> The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>> buying it for the hardware,
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Jamie K
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eemed to go okay in that there were no errors
>during installation, but when running PARIS or Sound Forge 7 I don't see
>the Waves NPP DX plugins at all. I did try to contact Waves just for the
>heck of it, but they won't give any advice, which is understandable given
>the age of version 2 and that in theory I could upgrade. I'm just hoping
>to avoid the expense. Thanks, all.Neil
Nothing major in terms of disagreement
The point regarding walls as bass traps...wall mass definitely can and does
effect the acoustics but not in trapping lower frequencies, at least the way
Iunderstand bass traps (and I could be wrong here)....and although you
didn't state it I got the impression you think I have too much
treatment...and compared to the minimalist approach you're probably right
but after looking at my personal observations as well as the numbers
generated by the room analysis programs, I believe I have most of the bases
covered...sure there are a couple of areas I can address in the future but
for now I'm quite comfortable mixing in there.
The other thing is the importance of experience in the equation...all things
being equal a more experienced AE will always get better results than an
inexperienced one...being intimately familiar with you room and your gear
allows you to compensate for it's weaknesses. Being able to spot problem
areas is also a matter of experience...probably the more important of the
two.
Funny thing regarding my situation with the unbalanced room - it wasn't
until I cleaned out me room of non essential junk, which let it breathe so
to speak, that I noticed the weighting of one side of the room. So the
treatment exposed a flaw in the room that I was unaware of...which can be a
good or bad thing.
Bottom line here is we all agree that Dimitrios can and should improve his
recording and mixing environment and as such we are all contributing to that
end.
Don
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45bf53a9$1@linux...
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
> You said:
> ***On the downside I do have an anomaly...the sound coming from
> my left speaker is louder than the right...now I initially
> thought signal chain and tested every individual component in
> my monitoring chain from the MEC to the speakers including
> having all the components tested and everything is in proper
> working order so after much discussion with a few more
> knowledgeable people in the field I (we) have come to the
> conclusion that the difference in wall construction of the two
> exterior walls vs the interior walls, as well as the windows
> that are on my long wall are the main cause of the
> problem....the fix...well the easiest was to just adjust the
> volume on the amp...do some mixes and test them...so far so
> good but come spring I'm going to look at this and other areas
> (mentioned above) and see if a cost effective solution can be
> found.***
>
> Which proves what I said, in that:
> ***You're right what you say about physics, and based on that,
>>> no amount of bass trapping or other treatment is going to
>>> COMPLETELY overcome the ENTIRE structure surrounding the space you're
> working in. No practical or realistic amount,
> anyway.
>>>
>>> 2.) Hence, there is no "perfect" environment.***
>
>
> Which further validates all my statements that followed.
>
> So I don't know what you're 'agreeing to disagree' with me on.
>
> NeilAs many of you know, I was one of the first to integrate a Native DAW (2000)
Nuendo 1.2 into my daily studio rig along side of Paris.
After many project studio schematics and possible 'What next" brainstorming
session, I came to the conclusion that "I could have my cake".
By this I mean: To integrate an Analog or Digital Mixer for:
-I/Os
-Work-flow
-Summing
-Aesthetics: Big Studio Looks brings the $$$ :)
That being said, I had to integrate Pro-Tools into this equation. So, I built
a super fast Dual Operton (native) PC for Nuendo,Pro Tools & Acid and kept
my Paris machine, Paris.. As well as a few VSTi/Giga Studio box. And I'm
completing a DRUm-Only Vsti PC..
So there you have it..One thing might change this year. I got a very good
chance to get a Yamaha DM2000 & HD2 deal of a lifetime.. But, I realy really
love my SOundcraft Ghost (56 channels) and it's Mic Pres and EQ...Tough choices..
Oh well, maybe I'll add a B-Room??
"Jon Jiles" <nope@nope.com> wrote:
>
>Ok... so all of you that have bailed on Paris but still hang here because
>it's an excellent newsgroup..
>
>What are you using now? Software, Converters, control surface, etc?
>
>I'm being forced closer to the Paris crossroads and am trying to figure
out
>what I should do when/if I have to go there.
>
>Thanks,
>JonHey Don,
For the window, make a '703 insert for it. Simply cover the window
when mixing. A large studio I worked at in Vancouver did this and it
worked well.
David.
Don Nafe wrote:
> Neil, I think most of what you've said rings true, especially your comments
> in Dimitrios' second post above, very observant, although there are a couple
> of things that I will "agree to disagree with you" about.
>
> For everyone else, I want to qualify this next diatribe by saying I am no
> expert in the field but I did a lot of research, spoke personally to a
> number of people who are a lot more knowledgeable than I am AND had the room
> evaluated by two companies. And between me and the fence post I came up with
> my basic room treatment plan.
>
> sorry it's a little long in the tooth but I kept adding things I felt were
> relevant as want along and what you have below is pretty well the whole
> shebang (and a fun read I hope)
>
>
> Now after a few months of research, asking really dumb questions, posing
> scenarios etc. I went ahead and bought my materials then went to town and
> the very first step was to rip out the walls between two bedrooms to make a
> room roughly 20' X 10' X 8' not exactly a "golden" room but a heck of a lot
> better than the 10' X 8' room I had been mixing in...talk about a friggin
> acoustic nightmare.
>
> I also purchased a Hafler P1500 power amp and a pair of Noteperfect Alpha
> Pro's from Australia (sight unseen) after auditioning more monitors than I
> care to remember. Everything from Mackie HR 824's through the JBL, KRK,
> Genelec & Quested lines etc. to B&W 800 series and all I can say was that
> process was an ear opening experience.
>
> For those who might be interested in the Alpha's (shameless plug here) I
> can best describe them as B&W 805 book shelf speakers with the bottom end of
> the 804 floor model...and at 1/2 the price of the 805's I can say it was
> the scariest moment
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1.) You're right what you say about physics, and based on that,
>>no amount of bass trapping or other treatment is going to
>>COMPLETELY overcome the ENTIRE structure surrounding the space
>>you're working in. No practical or realistic amount, anyway.
>>
>>2.) Hence, there is no "perfect" environment.
>>(Again, if there was, every top-notch studio would have this
>>exact same "perfect" environment, yes?).
>>
>>3.) The best mixing environment is one you're used to.
>>
>>4.) The best recording environment is one you know how to make
>>work for instrument "a" or vocal "b".
>>
>>5.) If you overtreat a room, you've got a room with no "life"
>>to it. This goes for recording rooms (70's drum sounds,
>>anyone?) AND mixing rooms (ever sit an anechoic chamber? I've
>>been in a near-anechoic one... your eardrums sound like they
>>"compress" when the door closes - that, or any degree OF that,
>>can't be good for mixing, can it?).
>>
>>6.) Skip six... numerologically, it would bring bad karma to
>>this thread.
>>
>>7.) You don't need near as many bass traps as Ethan Winer &
>>various mode calculating spreadsheets might suggest... most
>>of you HAVE bass traps already built in... walls that are
>>constructed of drywall with an air gap & then sheet insulation
>>behind them fastened to the other side of the interior wall...
>>hmmm....? Sound familiar? :) Kinda just like.... oh, I
>>dunno - A BASS TRAP???
>>
>>8.) You probably DO need SOME trapping, though, and if you can
>>trap a little bit of bass & get rid of standing waves to the
>>point where they'd be even as ridiculously high as -30 or
>>-40db, you could probably get a decent mix in a shower stall -
>>assuming you've done more than a handful of mixes in said
>>shower stall.
>>
>>9.) Bigger is better, #8 notwithstanding.
>>
>>10.) Don't "overspeaker" the room - if you've got a 10' throw
>>to the room, you do NOT need soffit-mounted Westlake Audio's
>>with the 15" woofs... for most (not all, depends on dimensions)
>>home/project studios I think anything more than nearfields are
>>a waste other than to give the band something to RAWK OUT TO!,
>>while you're tracking.
>>
>>11.) I can't think of a #11... I was just on a roll & couldn't
>>stop typing in time.
>>
>>
>>Neil
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Neil
>
>Nothing major in terms of disagreement
>
>The point regarding walls as bass traps...wall mass definitely
>can and does effect the acoustics but not in trapping lower
>frequencies, at least the way I understand bass traps.
I'm not saying that bass traps are ineffective, I'm just saying
that unless the mode calculations you're using take into account
the materials & methods of construction of the room, you may
think you need more bass traps than you really do in a typical
modern construction of drywall/airspace/sheet insulation.
In this type of construction, every segment of wall between
studs is, in effect, a bass trap. Is it a super-efficent,
perfectly-designed one with no leakage? Hell, no. Is it
something that in fact, DOES make a difference in trapping some
low end? Yeah, only problem is you still need more trapping in
corners, mostly. Again, this is going to vary from one room to
another, allimsayinis: You probably don't need as many bass
traps as some purveyors of said items might lead you to beleive,
if you're working in a room of this nature.
>and although you didn't state it I got the impression you think
>I have too much treatment...
No, I don't think you have "too much" - I was just saying that
$5 Grand & dozens of hours of labor later & you still have a
problem - a kinda funky one, too (mismatched L/R db levels),
plus a couple of dips in crucial frequency ranges... is that
really all that much better than what you could've achieved with
minimal treatment? Something like 8 Auralex LNRD's (two stacked
in each corner), plus a couple of absorption panels here & there
to knock down standing waves in key spots?
Now you're looking at spending MORE to correct the imbalance and
wondering if it's practical to do so...? Don, I'm not
criticizing you for trying, I'm simply wondering out loud if a
minimalist approach might have saved you a lot of money and
yielded the same, if not better, results. Like you said
yourself... it's physics at work - and my contention is that no
"practical" amount of treatment is going to overcome the
thousands of pounds of mass in various materials that each wall
is comprised of. This is why some people do "rooms within a
room", and others spend more money on acoustic treatment than
the building itself cost. It takes a LOT to overcome your right
wall being made of brick fascia/plywood/sheet insulation/air
gap/drywall and your left wall being made of drywall/air
gap/drywall, for example.
NeilThe Lexi box looks pretty cool, but I would worry that the softwares
that come with it require it only. My Tascam US428 came with a version
of Cubasis that only works the the US428. Curse those farggin
bastiges!
- Paul
On 30 Jan 2007 16:26:29 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>
>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>model).
>
>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>
>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>
>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>CubaseLE it comes package
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
>up?..HUH!!????
Yes, I'll take all that brightly-colored stuff to the rear of
the photo away for you.
Won't charge you very much to haul it off, either.
:)Sure Deej.. just throw it all in a box and send it to me, you have my
address right?
AA
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
> up?..HUH!!????
>
>
>
>sorry.....I didn't realize the files I posted were so huge. I FU'ed.
KIM!!!!?????
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
> up?..HUH!!????
>
>
>
>Sounds like fun. I'll pack the skis....err broom... and head over that way.
;-)
Dedric
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
> up?..HUH!!????
>
>
>
>Hi greg,
If the software ran native the quite possibly.
You would have to write vista specific drivers for the eds cards to work.
Oh and whats the point of running paris in vista? paris will not take
adavantage of anything vista or current pc hardwrae at all.
Chris
Greg Bratton wrote:
>Anyone know if PARIS could possibly run in VISTA under some sort of "compatability
>mode"?
>
>Just wondering if anyone has actually attempted it.
>
>I might give it a shot if no one else has tried.
>
>Let me know!!!
>
>Thanks, Greg
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Sweetttt!! I'd hire him in a minute..Man!!
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Here's the guy you need!
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt-M2pyXZX8
>
>Mike what style are you looking for?
>
>James
>
>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've been thinking about trying out one of these guys that does his drummin'
>>thing via the internet. Seems to be a fair number of choices. The rates,
>>from (so far) a low of 80.00 per track to a high of 120.00, seem very
>>reasonable. Have any of you tried out this kind of service? Have you
>>worked with anyone that you'd recommend to a fellow Paris dude?
>>Hats off,
>>MR
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------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C744A2.4D0C7040--"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
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>
>
>
Hey Deej! If I buy some cross over cables or something, will you throw in
your refrigerator echo chamber thing: )
It sure looks like you've got your work cut out for you.
James
>
>Hey...me too...I was Beta testing too....thanks to DJ.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>
>From Rim at Drumagog:
>
>We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products in the
=
>Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new versions
=
>add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're not =
>familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an amazing
=
>library of sounds (see www.fxpansion.com).
>
>These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples from
=
>within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is all =
>done without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional latency
=
>is introduced. =20
>
>Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.
>
>Two new products are available:
>Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to =
>trigger BFD. It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading
=
>of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all the
=
>regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
>
>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted =
>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering =
>info, please visit the drumagog order page: www.drumagog.com/buy.htm
>
>
>
>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick that
=
>sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and =
>then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was =
>working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it =
>then, but they weren't quite there.
>
>Anyway....there it is.
>
>:o)
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><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the =
>arrival of two=20
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>Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
>Fxpansion's=20
>BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module =
>plug-in=20
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>enable instant=20
>access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
>by directly=20
>triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
>complicated=20
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>available:<BR>Drumagog=20
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>BFD. =20
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>WAV, AIF=20
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=
>Pro=20
>(with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger=20
>BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a =
>discounted=20
>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
>ordering=20
>info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
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><P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to
=
>be able to=20
>replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of
=
>the BFD=20
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=
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>then, but=20
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>
>I'll go with you Dedric. If we all work together, I think we can corner
the many tentacled beast and maybe lure it into a cage. As bait, I have
a box marked "Paris 4 upgrade."
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Sounds like fun. I'll pack the skis....err broom... and head over that way.
> ;-)
>
> Dedric
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
>> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
>> up?..HUH!!????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Neato!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> From Rim at Drumagog:
>
>
> *We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products in
> the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new
> versions add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're
> not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an
> amazing library of sounds (see **www.fxpansion.com*
> <http://www.fxpansion.com/>*).*
>
> *These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples from
> within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is all
> done without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional latency
> is introduced.
>
> Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.*
>
> *Two new products are available:
> Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to
> trigger BFD. It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading
> of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
> Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all the
> regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
>
> If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted
> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering
> info, please visit the drumagog order page: **www.drumagog.com/buy.htm*
> <http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm>
>
> **
>
> Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick that
> sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and
> then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was
> working
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very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it
> then, but they weren't quite there.
>
> Anyway....there it is.
>
> :o)
>
>
>I woke this morning, eager to resume a mix I had ben working on last night.
Coffee in hand, calm and prepared to do the best mixing work I've ever done,
I turned on the Paris comp......turned on the Paris comp......TURNED ON THE
PARIS COMP! It didn't come on.......It kept getting stuck on the screen that
says something like " We're sorry for the inconvience, but do to a hardware
problem. Windows was unable to start" so I try safe mode....same screen.
Yadda Yadda....8 hours later and parts from 2 computers laying on my floor(after
swapping out drivebays, drives, ide cables, power supplies, and taking all
PCI cards and perferials out of the equation) (I stole from my cubase comp
to swap out parts). It ended up being the memory....I think....I'm pretty
sure. I have 2 512 sticks of crucial. When I took the 2nd one out everything
started working. So, I switched them out, and put the 2nd one in the 1st
slot by itself....that worked also (several boots just to be sure) So I put
the previous 1st stick in the 2nd slot, leaving the previous 2nd stick in
the 1st slot...computer won't even post. I switch them back around to their
original positions, and it goes back to the original error screen. I tried
the above permutations in the 1st and 3rd slots, and the 2nd and 3rd slots
and the result is the same, one way, nothing at all, the other, it goes to
the original error screen, but both sticks seem fine by themselves. I've
never had this happen, but I think I've read about it, where a stick can
be bad when mixed with other sticks but seem OK by it self. Does that sound
right??? I've had both sticks working together for about 2 years. Guess
I'll be calling Chris Ludwig tomorrow.
I can limp by on 512 for a couple days I guess.
RodErr, they'll be fine. ;o)
Sure they take a few seconds to reach your screen, but they're worth it for
the laugh. ;o)
Last I checked we've got another 7 years of HDD space. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>sorry.....I didn't realize the files I posted were so huge. I FU'ed.
>KIM!!!!?????
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
>> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
>> up?..HUH!!????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>You guys come on over. I'm gonna need hands next week. MADI system on the
way.
;o)
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45c0087a$1@linux...
>
> I'll go with you Dedric. If we all work together, I think we can corner
> the many tentacled beast and maybe lure it into a cage. As bait, I have a
> box marked "Paris 4 upgrade."
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Sounds like fun. I'll pack the skis....err broom... and head over that
>> way. ;-)
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
>>> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
>>> up?..HUH!!????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>It really is neato too. You could literally use a carboard box for a kick,
snare and toms and then drop this on the audio events and have a totally
monster sound. I didn't try it with hats or other cymbals but for the meat
'n potatoes stuff, it's killer. I'm going to have to get the BFD percussion
bundle now.
;o)
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45c00894@linux...
>
> Neato!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> From Rim at Drumagog:
>> *We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products in
>> the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new
>> versions add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're
>> not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an
>> amazing library of sounds (see **www.fxpansion.com*
>> <http://www.fxpansion.com/>*).*
>>
>> *These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples from
>> within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is all done
>> without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional latency is
>> introduced. Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.*
>>
>> *Two new products are available:
>> Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to
>> trigger BFD. It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading
>> of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
>> Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all the
>> regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
>>
>> If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted
>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering
>> info, please visit the drumagog order page: **www.drumagog.com/buy.htm*
>> <http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm>
>>
>> ** Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick
>> that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and
>> then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was
>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it
>> then, but they weren't quite there.
>>
>> Anyway....there it is.
>>
>> :o)
>>
>>I have a roll your own PC, MSI MOBO. as soon as I drop in more than 512K of
memory all hell breaks lose. Won't start or will start and keep re starting.
Hardware error messages, crashes, freezes. Tried all the BIOS tricks, on,
off, etc. I've tried 4 different brands of memory. switch them around, no
change.
I love standards and compatibility.
James
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I woke this morning, eager to resume a mix I had ben working on last night.
>Coffee in hand, calm and prepared to do the best mixing work I've ever done,
>I turned on the Paris comp......turned on the Paris comp......TURNED ON
THE
>PARIS COMP! It didn't come on.......It kept getting stuck on the screen
that
>says something like " We're sorry for the inconvience, but do to a hardware
>problem. Windows was unable to start" so I try safe mode....same screen.
>Yadda Yadda....8 hours later and parts from 2 computers laying on my floor(after
>swapping out drivebays, drives, ide cables, power supplies, and taking all
>PCI cards and perferials out of the equation) (I stole from my cubase comp
>to swap out parts). It ended up being the memory....I think....I'm pretty
>sure. I have 2 512 sticks of crucial. When I took the 2nd one out everything
>started working. So, I switched them out, and put the 2nd one in the 1st
>slot by itself....that worked also (several boots just to be sure) So I
put
>the previous 1st stick in the 2nd slot, leaving the previous 2nd stick in
>the 1st slot...computer won't even post. I switch them back around to their
>original positions, and it goes back to the original error screen. I tried
>the above permutations in the 1st and 3rd slots, and the 2nd and 3rd slots
>and the result is the same, one way, nothing at all, the other, it goes
to
>the original error screen, but both sticks seem fine by themselves. I've
>never had this happen, but I think I've read about it, where a stick can
>be bad when mixed with other sticks but seem OK by it self. Does that sound
>right??? I've had both sticks working together for about 2 years. Guess
>I'll be calling Chris Ludwig tomorrow.
>I can limp by on 512 for a couple days I guess.
>
>RodI think CubaseLE works with any ASIO-compliant card... just
check with whomever you plan to buy it from first to verify,
though. Again, the Lexi box itself is kinda crap, but for a
buck & a quarter you've got a 32-track Native DAW & a killer
reverb... good to get you started in native-land without
much of an investment.
Plus there's all the free VST plugins that John just posted a
link for... another advantage of VST.
Neil
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>The Lexi box looks pretty cool, but I would worry that the softwares
>that come with it require it only. My Tascam US428 came with a version
>of Cubasis that only works the the US428. Curse those farggin
>bastiges!
>
>- Paul
>
>
>On 30 Jan 2007 16:26:29 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>I have a comment & a suggestion:
>>
>>Comment: the Multifaces RAWK - they are VERY clean - you will
>>like them. BTW and FYI, there's no difference between the
>>Nuendo-branded ones & the regular RMEs of that same date/model
>>range (the RME Multiface II's are different, though - newer
>>model).
>>
>>Suggestion: Consider buying this...
>>
>>http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha/
>>
>>The convertors & mic pres in this line suck, but you're not
>>buying it for the hardware, you'd be buying it for the
>>CubaseLE it comes packaged with (use THAT instead of your
>>NTracks VST instantiatorizixorthingy) and for the major ass-
>>kickin' Lexicon Pantheon
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Reverb it comes with. Use the
>>convertor box as a doorstop. Check & see if CubaseLE might be a
>>better solution for you than the Ntracks first.
>>
>>Lemme know how the off-the-rack PC works - I am very curious
>>about this myself.
>>
>>Neil
>To me, BFD is for the Old school engineer, who has all his or her gates comp
tricks. Those sample are as RAW as they come.
For my production needs, I require "Ready To Go" sounds. I have BFD & DKFH(C&V)
and for my needs, DKFH(Custom vintage) is it for me. As well as Battery II.
Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every Proejct.
I have 2 X 80 gig drives just for Drums from a vast array of Drum libs. I
will be builinga Drum only VST computer for all these wonderfull drum libs
and drum VSTi..
Like, Drum-core.WOW!! Amazing sounds and playing. As well as hese guys (Additive
Audio) are really on to something good as far virtual drum recording..
http://www.xlnaudio.com/index.php?page=products&p_page=a udio
But, back to the subject.. I'd like to trigger DKFH(CV) from Drumagog. Trigerring
hose raw sounds requires too much work..
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>
>From Rim at Drumagog:
>
>We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products in the
=
>Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new versions
=
>add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're not =
>familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an amazing
=
>library of sounds (see www.fxpansion.com).
>
>These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples from
=
>within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is all =
>done without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional latency
=
>is introduced. =20
>
>Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.
>
>Two new products are available:
>Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to =
>trigger BFD. It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading
=
>of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all the
=
>regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
>
>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted =
>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering =
>info, please visit the drumagog order page: www.drumagog.com/buy.htm
>
>
>
>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick that
=
>sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and =
>then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was =
>working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it =
>then, but they weren't quite there.
>
>Anyway....there it is.
>
>:o)
>
>
>
>
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><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the =
>arrival of two=20
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>Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
>Fxpansion's=20
>BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module =
>plug-in=20
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>size=3D2><STRONG>).</STRONG></FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These new Drumagog products =
>enable instant=20
>access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
>by directly=20
>triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
>complicated=20
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><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Two new products are =
>available:<BR>Drumagog=20
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>WAV, AIF=20
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>(with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger=20
>BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a =
>discounted=20
>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
>ordering=20
>info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>href=3D"http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2><STRONG>www.drumagog.com/buy.htm</STRONG></FONT ></A></P>
><P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to
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>be able to=20
>replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of
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>the BFD=20
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>
>James -
Buy a ... oh, nevermind! Heehee.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 31 Jan 2007 15:50:07 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I have a roll your own PC, MSI MOBO. as soon as I drop in more than 512K of
>memory all hell breaks lose. Won't start or will start and keep re starting.
> Hardware error messages, crashes, freezes. Tried all the BIOS tricks, on,
>off, etc. I've tried 4 different brands of memory. switch them around, no
>change.
>
>I love standards and compatibility.
>
>James
>To my fellow Motown Brethern, Jame McCloskey.. Check this babay out. I must
admit,I'm Jeaslous!! (smile)!! :) :)
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Soundabout/SoundaboutMain.htm lLaMont,
I think there is a BFD>DKFH wrapper. Maybe.......you could............(evil
grin)
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c02d52$1@linux...
>
> To me, BFD is for the Old school engineer, who has all his or her gates
> comp
> tricks. Those sample are as RAW as they come.
>
> For my production needs, I require "Ready To Go" sounds. I have BFD &
> DKFH(C&V)
> and for my needs, DKFH(Custom vintage) is it for me. As well as Battery
> II.
>
> Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
> Proejct.
> I have 2 X 80 gig drives just for Drums from a vast array of Drum libs. I
> will be builinga Drum only VST computer for all these wonderfull drum libs
> and drum VSTi..
>
> Like, Drum-core.WOW!! Amazing sounds and playing. As well as hese guys
> (Additive
> Audio) are really on to something good as far virtual drum recording..
> http://www.xlnaudio.com/index.php?page=products&p_page=a udio
>
>
> But, back to the subject.. I'd like to trigger DKFH(CV) from Drumagog.
> Trigerring
> hose raw sounds requires too much work..
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From Rim at Drumagog:
>>
>>We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products in the
> =
>>Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new versions
> =
>>add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're not =
>>familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an amazing
> =
>>library of sounds (see www.fxpansion.com).
>>
>>These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples from
> =
>>within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is all =
>>done without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional latency
> =
>>is introduced. =20
>>
>>Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.
>>
>>Two new products are available:
>>Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to =
>>trigger BFD. It does not
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contain any internal sounds, or permit loading
> =
>>of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
>>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all the
> =
>>regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
>>
>>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted =
>>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering =
>>info, please visit the drumagog order page: www.drumagog.com/buy.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick that
> =
>>sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and =
>>then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was =
>>working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it =
>>then, but they weren't quite there.
>>
>>Anyway....there it is.
>>
>>:o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the =
>>arrival of two=20
>>exciting new products in the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog=20
>>Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
>>Fxpansion's=20
>>BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module =
>>plug-in=20
>>with an amazing library of sounds (see </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>>href=3D"http://www.fxpansion.com/"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2><STRONG>www.fxpansion.com</STRONG></FONT></A ><FONT face=3DArial
> =
>>
>>size=3D2><STRONG>).</STRONG></FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These new Drumagog products =
>>enable instant=20
>>access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
>>by directly=20
>>triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
>>complicated=20
>>setups, and no additional latency is introduced. =
>><BR><BR>Note: A copy=20
>>of BFD is required to use the new features.</STRONG></FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Two new products are =
>>available:<BR>Drumagog=20
>>BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to trigger =
>>BFD. =20
>>It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading of external =
>>WAV, AIF=20
>>or SDII files.<BR>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog
> =
>>Pro=20
>>(with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger=20
>>BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a =
>>discounted=20
>>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
>>ordering=20
>>info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>>href=3D"http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2><STRONG>www.drumagog.com/buy.htm</STRONG></FONT ></A></P>
>><P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to
> =
>>be able to=20
>>replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of
> =
>>the BFD=20
>>kits and then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It
> =
>>was=20
>>working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it =
>>then, but=20
>>they weren't quite there.</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway....there it is.</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>:o)</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Man that should happen on PC. Very Hipp.
Dubay
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c03049$1@linux...
>
> To my fellow Motown Brethern, Jame McCloskey.. Check this babay out. I
> must
> admit,I'm Jeaslous!! (smile)!! :) :)
>
>
> http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Soundabout/SoundaboutMain.htm lThe Asus S7333 has been stable as a rock with 2 512 sticks of crucial for
the last 2 years...till today
Rod
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I have a roll your own PC, MSI MOBO. as soon as I drop in more than 512K
of
>memory all hell breaks lose. Won't start or will start and keep re starting.
> Hardware error messages, crashes, freezes. Tried all the BIOS tricks,
on,
>off, etc. I've tried 4 different brands of memory. switch them around,
no
>change.
>
>I love standards and compatibility.
>
>James
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>I woke this morning, eager to resume a mix I had ben working on last night.
>>Coffee in hand, calm and prepared to do the best mixing work I've ever
done,
>>I turned on the Paris comp......turned on the Paris comp......TURNED ON
>THE
>>PARIS COMP! It didn't come on.......It kept getting stuck on the screen
>that
>>says something like " We're sorry for the inconvience, but do to a hardware
>>problem. Windows was unable to start" so I try safe mode....same screen.
>>Yadda Yadda....8 hours later and parts from 2 computers laying on my floor(after
>>swapping out drivebays, drives, ide cables, power supplies, and taking
all
>>PCI cards and perferials out of the equation) (I stole from my cubase comp
>>to swap out parts). It ended up being the memory....I think....I'm pretty
>>sure. I have 2 512 sticks of crucial. When I took the 2nd one out everything
>>started working. So, I switched them out, and put the 2nd one in the 1st
>>slot by itself....that worked also (several boots just to be sure) So I
>put
>>the previous 1st stick in the 2nd slot, leaving the previous 2nd stick
in
>>the 1st slot...computer won't even post. I switch them back around to their
>>original positions, and it goes back to the original error screen. I tried
>>the above permutations in the 1st and 3rd slots, and the 2nd and 3rd slots
>>and the result is the same, one way, nothing at all, the other, it goes
>to
>>the original error screen, but both sticks seem fine by themselves. I've
>>never had this happen, but I think I've read about it, where a stick can
>>be bad when mixed with other sticks but seem OK by it self. Does that sound
>>right??? I've had both sticks working together for about 2 years. Guess
>>I'll be calling Chris Ludwig tomorrow.
>>I can limp by on 512 for a couple days I guess.
>>
>>Rod
>Tell me it's a 1949-53 Power Wagon!
I want one.
DC
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I've got some packages for sale cheap over on the FS group.
>
>I've also got this truck with a blown engine sitting in my front yard
>......the paint is good.
>
>;0)
>
>Hey Lamont! Thanks for the post. Yes, a vary cool little program. I could
use this to go through all the little bits and pieces of musical ideas from
over the years. It would save me a lot of time and make life easier. It
would be easier to organize, find and snip out parts of music to arrange
and compose songs. For commercials, this would really be a time saver.
I have to say that all of this can be done with a bit of scripting, but it
would be more time consuming and a bit clunkier. Notice when he first finds
the audio file there is a play button etc. under the file window, just tap
the space bar to play or stop. Movie files are the same, they will play
a thumb nail movie in the finder the same as the audio files. There are
some tricks already with in the finder, and you can automate and script even
more functions easily. Sound About sure takes the work out of it though!
Here are a couple more good things from audio ease.
For DP users!
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/wrapper/wrapperMain.html
BarbaBatch for OSX and OS9
http://www.audioease.com/Pages/BarbaBatch4/BarbaBatch4.html
LaMont, your next computer should be a Mac pro tower with dual quad cores.
That way you will be able to run the best of both worlds of software; )
James
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>To my fellow Motown Brethern, Jame McCloskey.. Check this babay out. I must
>admit,I'm Jeaslous!! (smile)!! :) :)
>
>
> http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Soundabout/SoundaboutMain.htm lhands???more like a front end loader.
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:09:34 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>You guys come on over. I'm gonna need hands next week. MADI system on the
>way.
>
>;o)
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45c0087a$1@linux...
>>
>> I'll go with you Dedric. If we all work together, I think we can corner
>> the many tentacled beast and maybe lure it into a cage. As bait, I have a
>> box marked "Paris 4 upgrade."
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> Sounds like fun. I'll pack the skis....err broom... and head over that
>>> way. ;-)
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
>>>> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
>>>> up?..HUH!!????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>oh oh... not the right thing to say to the "mad engineer" dude.
On 31
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Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
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Jan 2007 14:43:13 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Err, they'll be fine. ;o)
>
>Sure they take a few seconds to reach your screen, but they're worth it for
>the laugh. ;o)
>
>Last I checked we've got another 7 years of HDD space. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>sorry.....I didn't realize the files I posted were so huge. I FU'ed.
>>KIM!!!!?????
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45bfd3f3@linux...
>>> So is somebody gonna come over here and help me clean this ****
>>> up?..HUH!!????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Dear Aaron,
Private message me if you can.
Regards,
Dimitrios1995 Honda Passport
;o)
"DC" <dc@spammersinCA.org> wrote in message news:45c03cc4$1@linux...
>
> Tell me it's a 1949-53 Power Wagon!
>
> I want one.
>
> DC
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I've got some packages for sale cheap over on the FS group.
>>
>>I've also got this truck with a blown engine sitting in my front yard
>>......the paint is good.
>>
>>;0)
>>
>>
>Thanks Lamont and Neil!
I picked both up and will have to give them a shot. Sounds like a good way
to moove Wav's between SX and Paris....
Don has given me a ton of help with this also (Adat to SX) .
Thanks again for all the help!!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Rich,
>
>TapeIT is one those little apps that a Must have for working withing multi
>DAWs..
>
>I typically use it in Nuendo to render(bounce)complete (but) indiviual tracks(wavs
>files) to a folder. Then I can call up these wavs and pick my DAW that I
>wan to mix in..
>
>TapeIt is a great way to bounce Vsti's. Yes you can render more than on
track
>at a time. And it can be midi controlled as well..
>
>
>
>
>"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Lamont:
>>
>> You use Tape It to create a wav from Paris or Cubase for import into one
>>or the other? Will this do a track by track (one to one) and or a submix
>>of say drums with effects etc to R L two track or?? I'll have to take
>>a look... what are you using it for?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>DJ and others..
>>>
>>>Here is a wayy too cool tool for quick bounces "within" Cubase or Paris..So
>>>you can dothese quick track bounces into a folder, then call up ..Say
Paris
>>>to Mix in..
>>>Only $19.00 bucks..Check it out..
>>>
>>>http://www.silverspike.com/?Products:TapeIt
>>>
>>>This is a must have for those of use who work in multiple DAWS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>I'm getting some old projects ready for batching in WL so I can import
>>them
>>>
>>>>into my Cubase DAW before I start breaking down my system. Guys, if I
>didn't
>>>
>>>>need the features in Cubase 4, I would't be doing this. I've been listening
>>>
>>>>to Cubase pretty constantly with the Neve box for the last few days so
>>I'm
>>>
>>>>imprinted on the sound. Listening to Paris again is like a breath of
fresh
>>>
>>>>air.....but the other is close enough, I do like the way it sounds and
>>I'm
>>>
>>>>committed. It ain't Paris though. I'm gonna miss this.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
><begin paste>
Sony settles with FTC
The Federal Trade Commission says Sony BMG went too far with anti-piracy
and other measure that "...limited the devices on which the music could be
played, restricted the number of copies that could be made, and contained
technology that monitored their listening habits to send them marketing messages."
It also made customer computers susceptible to hackers. All of this should
have been made clear to customers beforehand, says the FTC. Once on a customer's
computer, the software was said to be difficult to remove, and this led to
a requirement that the company reimburse customers up to 150 dollars for
damage done to their computer while attempting to do so. Customers also have
until 6/31/07 to exchange the CDs. "Installations of secret software that
create security risks are intrusive and unlawful," said FTC Chairman Deborah
Platt Majoras. "Consumers' computers belong to them, and companies must ade!
quately disclose unexpected limitations on the customary use of their products
so consumers can make informed decisions regarding whether to purchase and
install that content.""LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every Proejct.
On EVERY project???
Why don't you just learn to record better drums?
:)oooooooo..........
(ducking for cover)
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bb38$1@linux...
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
>>Proejct.
>
> On EVERY project???
>
> Why don't you just learn to record better drums?
>
> :)I want one of these:
http://www.vintagepowerwagons.com/products/vehicles/vehicle- 8887.htm
Someone tried to sell me a nice ex-Forest Service one for 1200.oo back
in the 1970's and I always regretted not buying it.
DC
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>1995 Honda Passport
>
>;o)
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinCA.org> wrote in message news:45c03cc4$1@linux...
>>
>> Tell me it's a 1949-53 Power Wagon!
>>
>> I want one.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I've got some packages for sale cheap over on the FS group.
>>>
>>>I've also got this truck with a blown engine sitting in my front yard
>>>......the paint is good.
>>>
>>>;0)
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>WOW!!
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
><begin paste>
>Sony settles with FTC
>The Federal Trade Commission says Sony BMG went too far with anti-piracy
>and other measure that "...limited the devices on which the music could
be
>played, restricted the number of copies that could be made, and contained
>technology that monitored their listening habits to send them marketing
messages."
>It also made customer computers susceptible to hackers. All of this should
>have been made clear to customers beforehand, says the FTC. Once on a customer's
>computer, the software was said to be difficult to remove, and this led
to
>a requirement that the company reimburse customers up to 150 dollars for
>damage done to their computer while attempting to do so. Customers also
have
>until 6/31/07 to exchange the CDs. "Installations of secret software that
>create security risks are intrusive and unlawful," said FTC Chairman Deborah
>Platt Majoras. "Consumers' computers belong to them, and companies must
ade!
>quately disclose unexpected limitations on the customary use of their products
>so consumers can make informed decisions regarding whether to purchase and
>install that content."
>Hey James,
I already got a lead out for one.(Wink Wink).
Now with all the talk about Logic 8, I'm starting to get a warm fuzzy feeling
about getting into a Mac Pro..
Take care.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Lamont! Thanks for the post. Yes, a vary cool little program. I could
>use this to go through all the little bits and pieces of musical ideas from
>over the years. It would save me a lot of time and make life easier. It
>would be easier to organize, find and snip out parts of music to arrange
>and compose songs. For commercials, this would really be a time saver.
>
>I have to say that all of this can be done with a bit of scripting, but
it
>would be more time consuming and a bit clunkier. Notice when he first finds
>the audio file there is a play button etc. under the file window, just tap
>the space bar to play or stop. Movie files are the same, they will play
>a thumb nail movie in the finder the same as the audio files. There are
>some tricks already with in the finder, and you can automate and script
even
>more functions easily. Sound About sure takes the work out of it though!
>
>Here are a couple more good things from audio ease.
>
>For DP users!
>
>http://www.audioease.com/Pages/wrapper/wrapperMain.html
>
>BarbaBatch for OSX and OS9
>http://www.audioease.com/Pages/BarbaBatch4/BarbaBatch4.html
>
>LaMont, your next computer should be a Mac pro tower with dual quad cores.
> That way you will be able to run the best of both worlds of software;
)
>
>James
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>To my fellow Motown Brethern, Jame McCloskey.. Check this babay out. I
must
>>admit,I'm Jeaslous!! (smile)!! :) :)
>>
>>
>> http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Soundabout/SoundaboutMain.htm l
>Lol!!
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Messages: 1976
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y internal sounds, or permit loading
>> =
>>>of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
>>>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all the
>> =
>>>regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
>>>
>>>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted =
>>>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering
=
>>>info, please visit the drumagog order page: www.drumagog.com/buy.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick that
>> =
>>>sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and =
>>>then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was =
>>>working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it
=
>>>then, but they weren't quite there.
>>>
>>>Anyway....there it is.
>>>
>>>:o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From Rim at Drumagog:</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>><DIV>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the =
>>>arrival of two=20
>>>exciting new products in the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog=20
>>>Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
>>>Fxpansion's=20
>>>BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module =
>>>plug-in=20
>>>with an amazing library of sounds (see </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"http://www.fxpansion.com/"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2><STRONG>www.fxpansion.com</STRONG></FONT></A ><FONT face=3DArial
>> =
>>>
>>>size=3D2><STRONG>).</STRONG></FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These new Drumagog products =
>>>enable instant=20
>>>access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
>>>by directly=20
>>>triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
>>>complicated=20
>>>setups, and no additional latency is introduced. =
>>><BR><BR>Note: A copy=20
>>>of BFD is required to use the new features.</STRONG></FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Two new products are =
>>>available:<BR>Drumagog=20
>>>BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to trigger
=
>>>BFD. =20
>>>It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading of external
=
>>>WAV, AIF=20
>>>or SDII files.<BR>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog
>> =
>>>Pro=20
>>>(with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger=20
>>>BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a
=
>>>discounted=20
>>>upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
>>>ordering=20
>>>info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>>>href=3D"http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2><STRONG>www.drumagog.com/buy.htm</STRONG></FONT ></A></P>
>>><P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to
>> =
>>>be able to=20
>>>replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of
>> =
>>>the BFD=20
>>>kits and then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It
>> =
>>>was=20
>>>working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it
=
>>>then, but=20
>>>they weren't quite there.</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway....there it is.</FONT></P&g
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excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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t; sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and =
>> then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was =
>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it =
>> then, but they weren't quite there.
>>
>> Anyway....there it is.
>>
>> :o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> <HTML><HEAD>
>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>> </HEAD>
>> <BODY>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From Rim at Drumagog:</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV>
>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the =
>> arrival of two=20
>> exciting new products in the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog=20
>> Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
>> Fxpansion's=20
>> BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module =
>> plug-in=20
>> with an amazing library of sounds (see </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>> href=3D"http://www.fxpansion.com/"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.fxpansion.com</STRONG></FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial
> =
>> size=3D2><STRONG>).</STRONG></FONT></P>
>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These new Drumagog products =
>> enable instant=20
>> access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
>> by directly=20
>> triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
>> complicated=20
>> setups, and no additional latency is introduced. =
>> <BR><BR>Note: A copy=20
>> of BFD is required to use the new features.</STRONG></FONT></P>
>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Two new products are =
>> available:<BR>Drumagog=20
>> BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to trigger =
>> BFD. =20
>> It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading of external =
>> WAV, AIF=20
>> or SDII files.<BR>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog
> =
>> Pro=20
>> (with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger=20
>> BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a =
>> discounted=20
>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
>> ordering=20
>> info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>> href=3D"http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.drumagog.com/buy.htm</STRONG></FONT ></A></P>
>> <P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to
> =
>> be able to=20
>> replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of
> =
>> the BFD=20
>> kits and then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It
> =
>> was=20
>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it =
>> then, but=20
>> they weren't quite there.</FONT></P>
>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway....there it is.</FONT></P>
>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>:o)</FONT></P>
>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
>Too fun!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> It really is neato too. You could literally use a carboard box for a kick,
> snare and toms and then drop this on the audio events and have a totally
> monster sound. I didn't try it with hats or other cymbals but for the meat
> 'n potatoes stuff, it's killer. I'm going to have to get the BFD percussion
> bundle now.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45c00894@linux...
>> Neato!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> From Rim at Drumagog:
>>> *We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products in
>>> the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new
>>> versions add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're
>>> not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an
>>> amazing library of sounds (see **www.fxpansion.com*
>>> <http://www.fxpansion.com/>*).*
>>>
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Thu, 11 January 2007 14:58 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
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r />
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>oooooooo..........
>
>(ducking for cover)
>
>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bb38$1@linux...
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
>>>Proejct.
>>
>> On EVERY project???
>>
>> Why don't you just learn to record better drums?
>>
>> :)
>
>:)
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c0d6e7$1@linux...
>
> Stop it...I'm not that bad..
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>oooooooo..........
>>
>>(ducking for cover)
>>
>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bb38$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
>>>>Proejct.
>>>
>>> On EVERY project???
>>>
>>> Why don't you just learn to record better drums?
>>>
>>> :)
>>
>>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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So I hear the PCIe bus can handle 500MHz whereas our wimpy ass PCI =
busses can only go 133.
I also hear that the PCIe bus doesn't share any bandwidth at all with =
the PCI bus.
Taken from a post on another forum:
PCIe guarantees a certain amount of undivided=20
bandwidth to a device in the PCIe slot. It's a dedicated channel. On a=20
modern Intel Chipset like the 965 there will be some contention between=20
devices on the south bridge chip (USB2, LAN, Serial ATA disks, PCIe) but =
the bandwidth between the north and south bridge chips is quite high=20
relative to the bandwidth of the south bridge devices.
So I'm wondering what this means exactly? Does it mean that there is =
enough bandwidth to hang 7 x PCI cards in a 7 x Slot Magma chassis and =
not have to worry about IRQ sharing, especially if there is a PCIe =
graphics card in the equation?.........and of course, something like =
this gets the hampsters jumping on the wheel in my brain and my brain =
comes up with a way to potentially make a computer perform an unnatural =
act by using a PCI video card on the PCI bus since that bus doesn't =
share with anything else, thus eliminating any possibility of problems =
down the road with a graphics card.
......the stated conclusion from the other forum........
The bottom line is that a PCIe device with hard real time requirements=20
(like a multiport audio device) will have fewer problems maintaining=20
stable audio input and output.
........so there is morepotential to poperate a native system at lower =
latencies???
C'mon folks, step up to the mic and talk to me here.
;o)
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amount of=20
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channel.=20
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between=20
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thus=20
eliminating any possibility of problems down the road with a graphics=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.....the stated conclusion from the =
other=20
forum........</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><EM>The bottom line is that a =
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will have=20
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output.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.......so there is morepotential to =
poperate a=20
native system at lower latencies???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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talk to me=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C74527.C8E28D00--LaMont...
Can you post some sample clips of this layering technique?
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c0d204$1@linux...
>
> I Have!! Nice.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hey LaMont, you should upgrade to Battery 3. Big improvements.
> >
> >Cheers,
> > -Jamie
> > www.JamieKrutz.com
> >
> >
> >LaMont wrote:
> >> To me, BFD is for the Old school engineer, who has all his or her gates
> comp
> >> tricks. Those sample are as RAW as they come.
> >>
> >> For my production needs, I require "Ready To Go" sounds. I have BFD &
> DKFH(C&V)
> >> and for my needs, DKFH(Custom vintage) is it for me. As well as Battery
> II.
> >>
> >> Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
Proejct.
> >> I have 2 X 80 gig drives just for Drums from a vast array of Drum libs.
> I
> >> will be builinga Drum only VST computer for all these wonderfull drum
> libs
> >> and drum VSTi..
> >>
> >> Like, Drum-core.WOW!! Amazing sounds and playing. As well as hese guys
> (Additive
> >> Audio) are really on to something good as far virtual drum recording..
>
> >> http://www.xlnaudio.com/index.php?page=products&p_page=a udio
> >>
> >>
> >> But, back to the subject.. I'd like to trigger DKFH(CV) from Drumagog.
> Trigerring
> >> hose raw sounds requires too much work..
> >> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>From Rim at Drumagog:
> >>> We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products in
> the
> >> =
> >>> Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new
versions
> >> =
> >>> add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're not =
> >>> familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an
amazing
> >> =
> >>> library of sounds (see www.fxpansion.com).
> >>>
> >>> These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples
from
> >> =
> >>> within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is all
> =
> >>> done without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional
latency
> >> =
> >>> is introduced. =20
> >>>
> >>> Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.
> >>>
> >>> Two new products are available:
> >>> Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to
> =
> >>> trigger BFD. It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit
loading
> >> =
> >>> of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
> >>> Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all
the
> >> =
> >>> regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
> >>>
> >>> If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted
> =
> >>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering
> =
> >>> info, please visit the drumagog order page: www.drumagog.com/buy.htm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick
that
> >> =
> >>> sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and
> =
> >>> then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was =
> >>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it
> =
> >>> then, but they weren't quite there.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway....there it is.
> >>>
> >>> :o)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >>> <HTML><HEAD>
> >>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> >>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=3DGENERATOR>
> >>> <STYLE></STYLE>
> >>> </HEAD>
> >>> <BODY>
> >>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From Rim at Drumagog:</FONT></DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >>> <DIV>
> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the =
> >>> arrival of two=20
> >>> exciting new products in the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and
Drumagog=20
> >>> Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
> >>> Fxpansion's=20
> >>> BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module =
> >>> plug-in=20
> >>> with an amazing library of sounds (see </STRONG></FONT><A=20
> >>> href=3D"http://www.fxpansion.com/"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.fxpansion.com</STRONG></FONT></A><FONT
face=3DArial
> >> =
> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>).</STRONG></FONT></P>
> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These new Drumagog products =
> >>> enable instant=20
> >>> access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
> >>> by directly=20
> >>> triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
> >>> complicated=20
> >>> setups, and no additional latency is introduced. =
> >>> <BR><BR>Note: A copy=20
> >>> of BFD is required to use the new features.</STRONG></FONT></P>
> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Two new products are =
> >>> available:<BR>Drumagog=20
> >>> BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to trigger
> =
> >>> BFD. =20
> >>> It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading of external
> =
> >>> WAV, AIF=20
> >>> or SDII files.<BR>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of
Drumagog
> >> =
> >>> Pro=20
> >>> (with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to
trigger=20
> >>> BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a
> =
> >>> discounted=20
> >>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
> >>> ordering=20
> >>> info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
> >>> href=3D"http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.drumagog.com/buy.htm</STRONG></FONT ></A></P>
> >>> <P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great
> to
> >> =
> >>> be able to=20
> >>> replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one
> of
> >> =
> >>> the BFD=20
> >>> kits and then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well.
> It
> >> =
> >>> was=20
> >>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce it
> =
> >>> then, but=20
> >>> they weren't quite there.</FONT></P>
> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway....there it is.</FONT></P>
> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>:o)</FONT></P>
> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></
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Ted Gerber
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just not enough felt/wood on the kick. Well,
the
> bottom snare mic could have something, maybe I can copy it and EQ out some
> of the beater hitting the drum. Nope, not really. OK, let's add a sample
> with a nice sharp attack to it. Whoa, now the snare sounds all weird . .
> " and pretty soon my drums sound like a Budweiser commercial.
>
> But I still do it anyway . . .
>
> TCB
>
> "LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >
> >Lol!! Ok ..
> >Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school of
production.
> >
> >Rule #1: Why use just one snare when adding 2 more while yield the sound
> >you're going for..
> >
> >Same for the Bass drum. The original BD is fine, but if I Copy that track
> > x2 then Drummagog them with added Lower thump DW kick and a High
(plat)-Ludwig
> >Kick ..and a third Drumagog a track with a nice 808 kick for R & B.. All
> >mixed at different levels to achieve that ultimate Kick and Snare track..
> >
> >In Hip & R & B, it's normal to "build your" drum tracks. A common Hip &
> R
> >&B tracks will consist of :
> >
> >-4 Kicks
> >-4 snares
> >-2 hats
> >-2shakers
> >
> >All mixed and blend to perfection that's not obvious to the listener, but
> >has added debt to the track.
> >
> >I get really good Live Drum performances in the studio, but the A-list
Engineers
> >are layering those initial tracks to take it to the next level. This
occurs
> >in Rock, Metal, Country, Gospel, Hip Hop/R &B..
> >
> >When I mentor your Engineer's the first questions or complaints I get
from
> >them is "Why doesn't my mixes sound like (Favorite artist)??
> >My Response:
> >Your mixes lack layers. : You snare (Live) is too thin or too thick, You
> >kick, is too sample sounding or lacks definition.and so on..
> >Then, I'll use NI's Battery to illustrate why layering (even Live drums)
> >is essential to achieving the sound you're going after..
> >
> >So, just recording better drums is onlythe first step in competing
(Sound-wise)
> >with the Big Boy mixes..
> >Take Care :)
> >
> >
> >"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>>Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
Proejct.
> >>
> >>On EVERY project???
> >>
> >>Why don't you just learn to record better drums?
> >>
> >>:)
> >
>Sure.. I'll get an example together tonight. But, you can easily try this
out by using any version of Battery vsti..
-Load in a drum sample in a cell,
- then right mouse click to add a sample..add another sample
-Now listen to the results.
-If one sample is over shadowing the other, adjust the levels to that sample.
Keep reapeating the add sample until you have achieved your desired sound..
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>LaMont...
>
>Can you post some sample clips of this layering technique?
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c0d204$1@linux...
>>
>> I Have!! Nice.
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hey LaMont, you should upgrade to Battery 3. Big improvements.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> > -Jamie
>> > www.JamieKrutz.com
>> >
>> >
>> >LaMont wrote:
>> >> To me, BFD is for the Old school engineer, who has all his or her gates
>> comp
>> >> tricks. Those sample are as RAW as they come.
>> >>
>> >> For my production needs, I require "Ready To Go" sounds. I have BFD
&
>> DKFH(C&V)
>> >> and for my needs, DKFH(Custom vintage) is it for me. As well as Battery
>> II.
>> >>
>> >> Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
>Proejct.
>> >> I have 2 X 80 gig drives just for Drums from a vast array of Drum libs.
>> I
>> >> will be builinga Drum only VST computer for all these wonderfull drum
>> libs
>> >> and drum VSTi..
>> >>
>> >> Like, Drum-core.WOW!! Amazing sounds and playing. As well as hese guys
>> (Additive
>> >> Audio) are really on to something good as far virtual drum recording..
>>
>> >> http://www.xlnaudio.com/index.php?page=products&p_page=a udio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> But, back to the subject.. I'd like to trigger DKFH(CV) from Drumagog.
>> Trigerring
>> >> hose raw sounds requires too much work..
>> >> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>From Rim at Drumagog:
>> >>> We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products
in
>> the
>> >> =
>> >>> Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new
>versions
>> >> =
>> >>> add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're not
=
>> >>> familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an
>amazing
>> >> =
>> >>> library of sounds (see www.fxpansion.com).
>> >>>
>> >>> These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples
>from
>> >> =
>> >>> within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is all
>> =
>> >>> done without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional
>latency
>> >> =
>> >>> is introduced. =20
>> >>>
>> >>> Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.
>> >>>
>> >>> Two new products are available:
>> >>> Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed
to
>> =
>> >>> trigger BFD. It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit
>loading
>> >> =
>> >>> of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
>> >>> Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all
>the
>> >> =
>> >>> regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a discounted
>> =
>> >>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For ordering
>> =
>> >>> info, please visit the drumagog order page: www.drumagog.com/buy.htm
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick
>that
>> >> =
>> >>> sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits and
>> =
>> >>> then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was
=
>> >>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce
it
>> =
>> >>> then, but they weren't quite there.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyway....there it is.
>> >>>
>> >>> :o)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >>> <HTML><HEAD>
>> >>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>> >>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>> >>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=3DGENERATOR>
>> >>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>> >>> </HEAD>
>> >>> <BODY>
>> >>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From Rim at Drumagog:</FONT></DIV>
>> >>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> >>> <DIV>
>> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the
=
>> >>> arrival of two=20
>> >>> exciting new products in the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and
>Drumagog=20
>> >>> Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
>> >>> Fxpansion's=20
>> >>> BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module
=
>> >>> plug-in=20
>> >>> with an amazing library of sounds (see </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>> >>> href=3D"http://www.fxpansion.com/"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.fxpansion.com</STRONG></FONT></A><FONT
>face=3DArial
>> >> =
>> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>).</STRONG></FONT></P>
>> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These new Drumagog products
=
>> >>> enable instant=20
>> >>> access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
>> >>> by directly=20
>> >>> triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
>> >>> complicated=20
>> >>> setups, and no additional latency is introduced. =
>> >>> <BR><BR>Note: A copy=20
>> >>> of BFD is required to use the new features.</STRONG></FONT></P>
>> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Two new products are =
>> >>> available:<BR>Drumagog=20
>> >>> BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to trigger
>> =
>> >>> BFD. =20
>> >>> It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading of external
>> =
>> >>> WAV, AIF=20
>> >>> or SDII files.<BR>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of
>Drumagog
>> >> =
>> >>> Pro=20
>> >>> (with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to
>trigger=20
>> >>> BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for
a
>> =
>> >>> discounted=20
>> >>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
>> >>> ordering=20
>> >>> info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
>> >>> href=3D"http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.drumagog.com/buy.htm</STRONG></FONT ></A></P>
>> >>> <P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
>> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great
>> to
>> >> =
>> >>> be able to=20
>> >>> replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one
>> of
>> >> =
>> >>> the BFD=20
>> >>> kits and then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well.
>> It
>> >> =
>> >>> was=20
>> >>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce
it
>> =
>> >>> then, but=20
>> >>> they weren't quite there.</FONT></P>
>> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway....there it is.</FONT></P>
>> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>:o)</FONT></P>
>> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>I dont have battery.
Can this be done with Drumagog only?
on seperate channels?
Maybe have the original and the sample and use Drumagogs blend feature?
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"LaMont " <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:45c0fbfd$1@linux...
>
> Sure.. I'll get an example together tonight. But, you can easily try this
> out by using any version of Battery vsti..
>
> -Load in a drum sample in a cell,
> - then right mouse click to add a sample..add another sample
> -Now listen to the results.
> -If one sample is over shadowing the other, adjust the levels to that
sample.
> Keep reapeating the add sample until you have achieved your desired
sound..
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >LaMont...
> >
> >Can you post some sample clips of this layering technique?
> >
> >--
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Brandon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c0d204$1@linux...
> >>
> >> I Have!! Nice.
> >>
> >> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hey LaMont, you should upgrade to Battery 3. Big improvements.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers,
> >> > -Jamie
> >> > www.JamieKrutz.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >LaMont wrote:
> >> >> To me, BFD is for the Old school engineer, who has all his or her
gates
> >> comp
> >> >> tricks. Those sample are as RAW as they come.
> >> >>
> >> >> For my production needs, I require "Ready To Go" sounds. I have BFD
> &
> >> DKFH(C&V)
> >> >> and for my needs, DKFH(Custom vintage) is it for me. As well as
Battery
> >> II.
> >> >>
> >> >> Having said all of that, Drummagog is a God Send!! I use it on every
> >Proejct.
> >> >> I have 2 X 80 gig drives just for Drums from a vast array of Drum
libs.
> >> I
> >> >> will be builinga Drum only VST computer for all these wonderfull
drum
> >> libs
> >> >> and drum VSTi..
> >> >>
> >> >> Like, Drum-core.WOW!! Amazing sounds and playing. As well as hese
guys
> >> (Additive
> >> >> Audio) are really on to something good as far virtual drum
recording..
> >>
> >> >> http://www.xlnaudio.com/index.php?page=products&p_page=a udio
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> But, back to the subject.. I'd like to trigger DKFH(CV) from
Drumagog.
> >> Trigerring
> >> >> hose raw sounds requires too much work..
> >> >> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>From Rim at Drumagog:
> >> >>> We are proud to announce the arrival of two exciting new products
> in
> >> the
> >> >> =
> >> >>> Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and Drumagog Platinum. These new
> >versions
> >> >> =
> >> >>> add the ability to directly trigger Fxpansion's BFD. If you're not
> =
> >> >>> familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module plug-in with an
> >amazing
> >> >> =
> >> >>> library of sounds (see www.fxpansion.com).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> These new Drumagog products enable instant access to BFD's samples
> >from
> >> >> =
> >> >>> within the Drumagog screen, by directly triggering BFD. This is
all
> >> =
> >> >>> done without MIDI or other complicated setups, and no additional
> >latency
> >> >> =
> >> >>> is introduced. =20
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Note: A copy of BFD is required to use the new features.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Two new products are available:
> >> >>> Drumagog BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed
> to
> >> =
> >> >>> trigger BFD. It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit
> >loading
> >> >> =
> >> >>> of external WAV, AIF or SDII files.
> >> >>> Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of Drumagog Pro (with all
> >the
> >> >> =
> >> >>> regular drumagog features), plus the ability to trigger BFD.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for a
discounted
> >> =
> >> >>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For
ordering
> >> =
> >> >>> info, pl
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ease visit the drumagog order page:
www.drumagog.com/buy.htm
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's great to be able to replace a kick
> >that
> >> >> =
> >> >>> sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from one of the BFD kits
and
> >> =
> >> >>> then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as well. It was
> =
> >> >>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce
> it
> >> =
> >> >>> then, but they weren't quite there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Anyway....there it is.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> :o)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >> >>> <HTML><HEAD>
> >> >>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >> >>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> >> >>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=3DGENERATOR>
> >> >>> <STYLE></STYLE>
> >> >>> </HEAD>
> >> >>> <BODY>
> >> >>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From Rim at Drumagog:</FONT></DIV>
> >> >>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> >>> <DIV>
> >> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>We are proud to announce the
> =
> >> >>> arrival of two=20
> >> >>> exciting new products in the Drumagog lineup: Drumagog BFD and
> >Drumagog=20
> >> >>> Platinum. These new versions add the ability to directly trigger =
> >> >>> Fxpansion's=20
> >> >>> BFD. If you're not familiar with BFD, it's an acoustic drum module
> =
> >> >>> plug-in=20
> >> >>> with an amazing library of sounds (see </STRONG></FONT><A=20
> >> >>> href=3D"http://www.fxpansion.com/"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> >> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.fxpansion.com</STRONG></FONT></A><FONT
> >face=3DArial
> >> >> =
> >> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>).</STRONG></FONT></P>
> >> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>These new Drumagog products
> =
> >> >>> enable instant=20
> >> >>> access to BFD's samples from within the Drumagog screen, =
> >> >>> by directly=20
> >> >>> triggering BFD. This is all done without MIDI or other =
> >> >>> complicated=20
> >> >>> setups, and no additional latency is introduced. =
> >> >>> <BR><BR>Note: A copy=20
> >> >>> of BFD is required to use the new features.</STRONG></FONT></P>
> >> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Two new products are =
> >> >>> available:<BR>Drumagog=20
> >> >>> BFD is a simple version of Drumagog which is only designed to
trigger
> >> =
> >> >>> BFD. =20
> >> >>> It does not contain any internal sounds, or permit loading of
external
> >> =
> >> >>> WAV, AIF=20
> >> >>> or SDII files.<BR>Drumagog Platinum is a full-blown version of
> >Drumagog
> >> >> =
> >> >>> Pro=20
> >> >>> (with all the regular drumagog features), plus the ability to
> >trigger=20
> >> >>> BFD.<BR><BR>If you own a copy of Drumagog Pro, you are eligible for
> a
> >> =
> >> >>> discounted=20
> >> >>> upgrade to Drumagog Platinum. The upgrade price is $89. For =
> >> >>> ordering=20
> >> >>> info, please visit the drumagog order page: </STRONG></FONT><A=20
> >> >>> href=3D"http://www.drumagog.com/buy.htm"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> >> >>> size=3D2><STRONG>www.drumagog.com/buy.htm</STRONG></FONT ></A></P>
> >> >>> <P><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </P>
> >> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog BFD is very cool. It's
great
> >> to
> >> >> =
> >> >>> be able to=20
> >> >>> replace a kick that sounds like a cardboard box with a kick from
one
> >> of
> >> >> =
> >> >>> the BFD=20
> >> >>> kits and then blend the Eldorado Studio room into the track as
well.
> >> It
> >> >> =
> >> >>> was=20
> >> >>> working very well for me before NAMM. I thought they would announce
> it
> >> =
> >> >>> then, but=20
> >> >>> they weren't quite there.</FONT></P>
> >> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway....there it is.</FONT></P>
> >> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>:o)</FONT></P>
> >> >>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>I dont have battery.
I have an old version that I haven't used in forever - I'll
sell it to you cheep if you want it. It's just sitting on a
shelf in the box.
Neil"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45bf6d42$1@linux...
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Neil
>>
>>Nothing major in terms of disagreement
>>
>>The point regarding walls as bass traps...wall mass definitely
>>can and does effect the acoustics but not in trapping lower
>>frequencies, at least the way I understand bass traps.
>>
>
> I'm not saying that bass traps are ineffective, I'm just saying
> that unless the mode calculations you're using take into account
> the materials & methods of construction of the room, you may
> think you need more bass traps than you really do in a typical
> modern construction of drywall/airspace/sheet insulation.
> In this type of construction, every segment of wall between
> studs is, in effect, a bass trap. Is it a super-efficent,
> perfectly-designed one with no leakage? Hell, no. Is it
> something that in fact, DOES make a difference in trapping some
> low end? Yeah, only problem is you still need more trapping in
> corners, mostly. Again, this is going to vary from one room to
> another, allimsayinis: You probably don't need as many bass
> traps as some purveyors of said items might lead you to beleive,
> if you're working in a room of this nature.
>
I guess using the term bass trap to describe the cavity between wall studs
had me confused...I'm sure some frequencies get trapped in there but I doubt
it's low end.
>>
>>and although you didn't state it I got the impression you think
>>I have too much treatment...
>>
>
> No, I don't think you have "too much" - I was just saying that
> $5 Grand & dozens of hours of labor later & you still have a
> problem - a kinda funky one, too (mismatched L/R db levels),
> plus a couple of dips in crucial frequency ranges... is that
> really all that much better than what you could've achieved with
> minimal treatment? Something like 8 Auralex LNRD's (two stacked
> in each corner), plus a couple of absorption panels here & there
> to knock down standing waves in key spots?
>
> Now you're looking at spending MORE to correct the imbalance and
> wondering if it's practical to do so...? Don, I'm not
> criticizing you for trying, I'm simply wondering out loud if a
> minimalist approach might have saved you a lot of money and
> yielded the same, if not better, results. Like you said
> yourself... it's physics at work - and my contention is that no
> "practical" amount of treatment is going to overcome the
> thousands of pounds of mass in various materials that each wall
> is comprised of. This is why some people do "rooms within a
> room", and others spend more money on acoustic treatment than
> the building itself cost. It takes a LOT to overcome your right
> wall being made of brick fascia/plywood/sheet insulation/air
> gap/drywall and your left wall being made of drywall/air
> gap/drywall, for example.
As for me spending $5000 to end up with a problem...that's not really
accurate or fair. Yes there is a problem but it was the acoustic treatment
that brought the problem to my attention. Granted, one of the options to
remedy this problem is very expensive, but there are others that might tame
this beast which are incredibly cheap by comparison (as in pennies on the
dollar) I'll find out soon enough...either way the temporary fix is
working.
As for the rooms frequency response...I'll take these two gentle 5db dips
over the 20-40db spikes the room exhibited right after construction. That
empty room sucked donkey balls. But as I expected (hoped) with each
improvement to the monitoring and the acoustics I could hear a noticeable
difference in the room. that alone speaks volumes about how much treatment
was required to achieve my end.
I 'd also like to add that last fall I spent the better part of a week
shooting the room with various combinations of panels in the room and
without even looking at the graphs the difference in what I heard was
amazing. Remember this is a mixing room not a tracking room...would I track
in a room with this rooms acoustic signature...I doubt it as it's too dead
for my liking. But for mixing it's very nice.
From the outset this room was never intended to compete sonically or
economically with commercial studios. It was to be a comfortable place where
I could go (in my home) to mix CDs and to that end it has succeeded. I agree
that to do this properly would have required tens of thousands of dollars
and many more hours of research and labour on my part, so in that respect
spending $5000 to renovate and treat a room AND upgrade my monitoring system
would have to be considered a minimalist approach.
DonIf it's Battery 1, you'll need to upgrade it before it will even really
work. It should be upgradable, though.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Neil wrote:
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> I dont have battery.
>
> I have an old version that I haven't used in forever - I'll
> sell it to you cheep if you want it. It's just sitting on a
> shelf in the box.
>
> NeilI may take yo up on that offer.
Can Click tracks be generated Quickly and painlessly in battery.?
What are the benefits over Drumagog ? I thought they were the same thing
basically.
I really need a plug that makes quick easy click tracks with real drum
sounds and records it
to tape or spits out a wav file for import.
I just want to select a time signature and a tempo and a drum kit.
Maybe lay out my own little 4 bar beat and have it loop it.
I got a TD-10 module but I dont have the rest of the set set up to where I
can play what I want..
record it to the TD-10 and then quantize it...then record to tape.
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0fcfa$1@linux...
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
> >I dont have battery.
>
> I have an old version that I haven't used in forever - I'll
> sell it to you cheep if you want it. It's just sitting on a
> shelf in the box.
>
> NeilHi LaMont,
Yup, the firewire seems very interesting (32 in/32 out@ 96k) but the MKII's
not out yet. Apparently some people have tried / are using a firmware updated
version of the firewire card that was originally intended for the DM-24.
If I do this I will stick to the HD9652 for now.
How dangerous do you think it would be to consider the DM3200 used?.. and
what do you think it should be worth?
Cheers,
jj
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Jon,
>
>- most DM24 users/owners units have been rock solid
>- having stated the above, Yamaha Desks are as solid as they come. They
rarley
>break down. O2rs(orignals) are still cranking to this day.
>
>Have you considerd the Firewire Option? 32/32 ins/outs?
>
>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks LaMont -
>>
>>I had considered keeping some of my Paris rig to use as a glorified mastering
>>deck. Sounds like that's what you're suggesting here as a possible solution.
>>
>>I just finished talking to guy who is selling his 02r96v2 (which I've now
>>determined is way out of my price range - even used) and he shared an absolute
>>Tascam customer service horror story regarding a DM-24 he owned. 4 bad
power
>>supplies, LCD failed, lost studio time (had to ship it back something like
>>6 times - from Hawaii!!!!) and Tascam apparently never did make it right
>>for him.
>>
>>Hopefully they got it right with the new boards because the resounding
impression
>>I'm getting of Tascam's willingness/ability to stand behind their products
>>is the only thing causing hesitation for me right now.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Jon
>>
>>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Jon,
>>>
>>>Trust me, the marriage of the Tascam 3200 & Cuabse 4 is a match made in
>>heaven.
>>>You will not miss the Paris sound.
>>>
>>>However to not throw away your Paris investment(s), instead of summing
>out
>>>of the 3200..you can...
>>>
>>>Another way.. 3200 out via SP/Dif. into Paris Mec/442 SP/dif..for just
>a
>>>stereo sum .. Again, good sound.
>>>
>>>3200 master (analog outs) into Paris MEC/442.. 24bit(input Card)..then
>24bit
>>>out card..to master or internal bounce..
>>>
>>>You can't loose either way you go.. Grat choice!!
>>>P.S. Put into an Argosy!!! :)
>>>take care.
>>>
>>>- 3200 out (Adat x 2) 16 lightpipes stems into MEC (with 2 adat cards)..
>>>For stem mixing. Very cool.. Very good sound. and provides a means of
Matering
>>>within Paris.
>>>
>>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Wow!!!!
>>>>
>>>>That's a pretty ringing endorsement LaMont!!!!
>>>>
>>>>I'm definitely leaning towards the 3200 and Cubase 4. The only client
>in
>>>>my studio is me and I'm really just trying to get to a simpler workflow
>>>,for
>>>>the songwriting end of things, and still achieve quality results at the
>>>end
>>>>of the process.
>>>>
>>>>Can you eplain to me in a little more detail how you (and apparently
BT)
>>>>would be/are using Paris as the master summing mixer/recorder in this
>scenario?
>>>>
>>>>I've currently got Cubase SX3 lightpiped into Paris via a RME 9652 (
a
>>mini-Deej
>>>>set-up if, you will) but being a guy who only gets to work on my stuff
>>in
>>>>the evenings after work or on the weekends, the opportunity for confusion
>>>>in such a kludge ridden set-up doesn't lend itself to the creative workflow.
>>>>That's why Cubase and a nice board/control surface appeals. My big dilemma
>>>>though is that I still absolutely love the way Paris sounds.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, thanks a ton for the input, greatly appreciated! I've got much
>>to
>>>>consider.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Jon, I can chime in here on this question.
>>>>>
>>>>>I often work at a local studio http://www.lamourrecording.com/
>>>>>which has (2) Yamaha's DM2000. I can't speak highly enough of these
powerful
>>>>>beast.
>>>>>
>>>>>Great feel, 96 channels @ 96K
>>>>>Pro Tools, Neundo/Cubase/Sonar/Logic Controller
>>>>>Nice Comps/EQs on every channel
>>>>>(8) SPX-1000's DSP processors (REVerbs, Delays, Chorus.etc)
>>>>>Some of the sweetest (24) Mic pres you'll find
>>>>>All in a foot print that keeps the Engineer/Operator right in
>>>>>front of the mix..There's a ton more features..
>>>>>
>>>>>I had a chance (2years) ago to take the then Tascam 3200 for week session
>>>>>spin. Due to the fact that no body in our area had a O2r/96, we rented
>>>>>the tascam.. Man, to my ears and others, the Tascam delivers the goods.
>>>>I
>>>>>would have to say that the Tascam 3200 sonics was more "thick" than
the
>>>>DM2000.
>>>>>Different converters and clocks.. But, we mananged to get thru a sesion
>>>>without
>>>>>opening the manual!!
>>>>>You're not going to do that with the Yammys.. he 3200 had full eq and
>>dynamics
>>>>>on every channel as well as I think 4 DSP processors for Verbs and dleays
>>>>>chorus FX.. The verbs were the star of this board. The algo's were from
>>>>TC!!
>>>>>the verb masters. Man, these verbs sounded like our TC 3000 ..really!!.
>>>>The
>>>>>Eqs were usuable as are the Comps/Lim..We click on the DAW controller
>>layer
>>>>>button, scrolled to the DAW template (Pro Tools)..Boom!! "Houston We
>have
>>>>>Controll".. That easy.. We had transport, channel faders and Master
faders
>>>>>and edit scroll.. To be honest, we probable had more functions,but like
>>>>I
>>>>>stated earlier, we had not read the manual..
>>>>>Oh well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Like I told James, I'm looking seriously @ the DM4800 X2 for my Home
>studio..To
>>>>>host Both Nuendo & Pro Tools...AND yes, Liek BrianT does in Houston,
>Paris
>>>>>will be used a he master summing mixer/recorder..
>>>>>
>>>>>The DM3200/4800 can't be beat in their price range. They have the sound,
>>>>>looks, and product maturity. Tascam knew they had a winner with the
DM24,then
>>>>>knocked the ball out of the park with the DM3200, and now DM 4800..
>>>>>
>>>>>Now that it's official that Mackie has dropped the Ball with the DXB(20K
>>>>>Plus), now selling are drastic discounts. The DXB is a one sweet sounding
>>>>>board as well. At 9k it competes very well with Yammys O2r/96..But,
(2)
>>>>x
>>>>>DM4800 @ around is just as and (imo) more potent ..AND dropped in a
cool
>>>>>Argosy, BAMM!..
>>>>>
>>>>>Report message to a moderator
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nanaheyhey@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for all the info James!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How do they stack up against the Yamaha boards? (O2r96v2 and the DM1000v2,etc)
>>>>>>Also, Cubase implementation will be a key factor if I move from Paris.
>>>>I
>>>>>>will consider the Yamaha boards too (used though due to price) because
>>>>of
>>>>>>the Yammy/Steinberg connection and better Cubase implementation I would
>>>>>suppose.
>>>>>>The Tascam boards do seem like a very good value though... especially
>>>if
>>>>>>they don't break and are not horribly non-intuitive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By the way, the mic pres on the DM-32 and DM-48 are greatly improved
>>>and
>>>>>>vary
>>>>>>>usable. It was only the DM-24 that had the problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey Jon!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Some of the guys on the DA7 NG have switched to the Tascam DM 32s.
>>
>>>A
>>>>>customer
>>>>>>>>of mine also has one. The mixes from both source sound good. You
>>should
>>>>>>>>always test drive before you buy. You have to like it. I would
think
>>>>>>twice
>>>>>>>>before buying a DM-24, the Mic pres were not so good, they had low
>>head
>>>>>>>room.
>>>>>>>> If you use the DM-24 for line ins only, I think you'd be Ok. There
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>an upgrade for the mic pres through Tascam, they may no longer be
>doing
>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hear the DM manuals are terrible, you can go down load them. If
>>you
>>>>>>buy
>>>>>>>>one, make sure you have 30 full days to test it. Clear your planner
>>>>for
>>>>>>>>test time. Read the manual in advance and go to the NG a lot before
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>get it. Every once in awhile Tascam puts out a lemon, so you want
>>to
>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>able to fully test what you buy from them. Unless they have changed
>>>>their
>>>>>>>>policy, they only have a 90 day warranty!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <snoid@sheboygan.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Anyone here actually had any real hands on with this board/controller,
>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>with Cubase 4? James got me intrigued but I have read that the build
>>>>>quolity
>>>>>>>>>may be somewhat on cheesy side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>James Mc is a Dealer maybe he could chime in. Ok. How old is it?
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi LaMont,
>
>Yup, the firewire seems very interesting (32 in/32 out@ 96k) but the MKII's
>not out yet. Apparently some people have tried / are using a firmware updated
>version of the firewire card that was originally intended for the DM-24.
>
>If I do this I will stick to the HD9652 for now.
>
>How dangerous do you think it would be to consider the DM3200 used?.. and
>what do you think it should be worth?
>
>Cheers,
>jj
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Jon,
>>
>>- most DM24 users/owners units have been rock solid
>>- having stated the above, Yamaha Desks are as solid as they come. They
>rarley
>>break down. O2rs(orignals) are still cranking to this day.
>>
>>Have you considerd the Firewire Option? 32/32 ins/outs?
>>
>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks LaMont -
>>>
>>>I had considered keeping some of my Paris rig to use as a glorified mastering
>>>deck. Sounds like that's what you're suggesting here as a possible solution.
>>>
>>>I just finished talking to guy who is selling his 02r96v2 (which I've
now
>>>determined is way out of my price range - even used) and he shared an
absolute
>>>Tascam customer service horror story regarding a DM-24 he owned. 4 bad
>power
>>>supplies, LCD failed, lost studio time (had to ship it back something
like
>>>6 times - from Hawaii!!!!) and Tascam apparently never did make it right
>>>for him.
>>>
>>>Hopefully they got it right with the new boards because the resounding
>impression
>>>I'm getting of Tascam's willingness/ability to stand behind
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Thu, 11 January 2007 18:39 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
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to get to a simpler workflow
>>>>,for
>>>>>the songwriting end of things, and still achieve quality results at
the
>>>>end
>>>>>of the process.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can you eplain to me in a little more detail how you (and apparently
>BT)
>>>>>would be/are using Paris as the master summing mixer/recorder in this
>>scenario?
>>>>>
>>>>>I've currently got Cubase SX3 lightpiped into Paris via a RME 9652 (
>a
>>>mini-Deej
>>>>>set-up if, you will) but being a guy who only gets to work on my stuff
>>>in
>>>>>the evenings after work or on the weekends, the opportunity for confusion
>>>>>in such a kludge ridden set-up doesn't lend itself to the creative workflow.
>>>>>That's why Cubase and a nice board/control surface appeals. My big dilemma
>>>>>though is that I still absolutely love the way Paris sounds.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, thanks a ton for the input, greatly appreciated! I've got much
>>>to
>>>>>consider.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>jon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Jon, I can chime in here on this question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I often work at a local studio http://www.lamourrecording.com/
>>>>>>which has (2) Yamaha's DM2000. I can't speak highly enough of these
>powerful
>>>>>>beast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Great feel, 96 channels @ 96K
>>>>>>Pro Tools, Neundo/Cubase/Sonar/Logic Controller
>>>>>>Nice Comps/EQs on every channel
>>>>>>(8) SPX-1000's DSP processors (REVerbs, Delays, Chorus.etc)
>>>>>>Some of the sweetest (24) Mic pres you'll find
>>>>>>All in a foot print that keeps the Engineer/Operator right in
>>>>>>front of the mix..There's a ton more features..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had a chance (2years) ago to take the then Tascam 3200 for week session
>>>>>>spin. Due to the fact that no body in our area had a O2r/96, we rented
>>>>>>the tascam.. Man, to my ears and others, the Tascam delivers the goods.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>would have to say that the Tascam 3200 sonics was more "thick" than
>the
>>>>>DM2000.
>>>>>>Different converters and clocks.. But, we mananged to get thru a sesion
>>>>>without
>>>>>>opening the manual!!
>>>>>>You're not going to do that with the Yammys.. he 3200 had full eq and
>>>dynamics
>>>>>>on every channel as well as I think 4 DSP processors for Verbs and
dleays
>>>>>>chorus FX.. The verbs were the star of this board. The algo's were
from
>>>>>TC!!
>>>>>>the verb masters. Man, these verbs sounded like our TC 3000 ..really!!.
>>>>>The
>>>>>>Eqs were usuable as are the Comps/Lim..We click on the DAW controller
>>>layer
>>>>>>button, scrolled to the DAW template (Pro Tools)..Boom!! "Houston We
>>have
>>>>>>Controll".. That easy.. We had transport, channel faders and Master
>faders
>>>>>>and edit scroll.. To be honest, we probable had more functions,but
like
>>>>>I
>>>>>>stated earlier, we had not read the manual..
>>>>>>Oh well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Like I told James, I'm looking seriously @ the DM4800 X2 for my Home
>>studio..To
>>>>>>host Both Nuendo & Pro Tools...AND yes, Liek BrianT does in Houston,
>>Paris
>>>>>>will be used a he master summing mixer/recorder..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The DM3200/4800 can't be beat in their price range. They have the sound,
>>>>>>looks, and product maturity. Tascam knew they had a winner with the
>DM24,then
>>>>>>knocked the ball out of the park with the DM3200, and now DM 4800..
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now that it's official that Mackie has dropped the Ball with the DXB(20K
>>>>>>Plus), now selling are drastic discounts. The DXB is a one sweet sounding
>>>>>>board as well. At 9k it competes very well with Yammys O2r/96..But,
>(2)
>>>>>x
>>>>>>DM4800 @ around is just as and (imo) more potent ..AND dropped in a
>cool
>>>>>>Argosy, BAMM!..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.argosyconsole.com/dm3200.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nanaheyhey@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for all the info James!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How do they stack up against the Yamaha boards? (O2r96v2 and the DM1000v2,etc)
>>>>>>>Also, Cubase implementation will be a key factor if I move from Paris.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>will consider the Yamaha boards too (used though due to price) because
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>the Yammy/Steinberg connection and better Cubase implementation I
would
>>>>>>suppose.
>>>>>>>The Tascam boards do seem like a very good value though... especially
>>>>if
>>>>>>>they don't break and are not horribly non-intuitive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By the way, the mic pres on the DM-32 and DM-48 are greatly improved
>>>>and
>>>>>>>vary
>>>>>>>>usable. It was only the DM-24 that had the problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey Jon!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Some of the guys on the DA7 NG have switched to the Tascam DM 32s.
>>>
>>>>A
>>>>>>customer
>>>>>>>>>of mine also has one. The mixes from both source sound good. You
>>>should
>>>>>>>>>always test drive before you buy. You have to like it. I would
>think
>>>>>>>twice
>>>>>>>>>before buying a DM-24, the Mic pres were not so good, they had low
>>>head
>>>>>>>>room.
>>>>>>>>> If you use the DM-24 for line ins only, I think you'd be Ok. There
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>an upgrade for the mic pres through Tascam, they may no longer be
>>doing
>>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I hear the DM manuals are terrible, you can go down load them.
If
>>>you
>>>>>>>buy
>>>>>>>>>one, make sure you have 30 full days to test it. Clear your planner
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>test time. Read the manual in advance and go to the NG a lot before
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>get it. Every once in awhile Tascam puts out a lemon, so you want
>>>to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>able to fully test what you buy from them. Unless they have changed
>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>policy, they only have a 90 day warranty!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <snoid@sheboygan.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Anyone here actually had any real hands on with this board/controller,
>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>with Cubase 4? James got me intrigued but I have read that the
build
>>>>>>quolity
>>>>>>>>>>may be somewhat on cheesy side.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hey Jon, when I mentioned the DMs, I was thinking with the FW card. The DM
becomes your computer audio interface, control surface, routing matrix, your
digital format converters, mixer, multi effects, dynamic effects, Eq, Que/talk
back system, summing box, possibly your automation and it looks cool. With
out the FW card it doesn't make as much sense.
I have never seen these used, and I've been looking. I've seen DM-24s as
low as $500.00, but your looking at a 1999 vintage board design. I question
the quality of the mic pres and they were known for having the LCD screens
go bad. I think it would be Ok if you could buy a DM-32 used from a local
store and try it out for 30 days.
James
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hi LaMont,
>
>Yup, the firewire seems very interesting (32 in/32 out@ 96k) but the MKII's
>not out yet. Apparently some people have tried / are using a firmware updated
>version of the firewire card that was originally intended for the DM-24.
>
>If I do this I will stick to the HD9652 for now.
>
>How dangerous do you think it would be to consider the DM3200 used?.. and
>what do you think it should be worth?
>
>Cheers,
>jj
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Jon,
>>
>>- most DM24 users/owners units have been rock solid
>>- having stated the above, Yamaha Desks are as solid as they come. They
>rarley
>>break down. O2rs(orignals) are still cranking to this day.
>>
>>Have you considerd the Firewire Option? 32/32 ins/outs?
>>
>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks LaMont -
>>>
>>>I had considered keeping some of my Paris rig to use as a glorified mastering
>>>deck. Sounds like that's what you're suggesting here as a possible solution.
>>>
>>>I just finished talking to guy who is selling his 02r96v2 (which I've
now
>>>determined is way out of my price range - even used) and he shared an
absolute
>>>Tascam customer service horror story regarding a DM-24 he owned. 4 bad
>power
>>>supplies, LCD failed, lost studio time (had to ship it back something
like
>>>6 times - from Hawaii!!!!) and Tascam apparently never did make it right
>>>for him.
>>>
>>>Hopefully they got it right with the new boards because the resounding
>impression
>>>I'm getting of Tascam's willingness/ability to stand behind their products
>>>is the only thing causing hesitation for me right now.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Jon
>>>
>>>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hey Jon,
>>>>
>>>>Trust me, the marriage of the Tascam 3200 & Cuabse 4 is a match made
in
>>>heaven.
>>>>You will not miss the Paris sound.
>>>>
>>>>However to not throw away your Paris investment(s), instead of summing
>>out
>>>>of the 3200..you can...
>>>>
>>>>Another way.. 3200 out via SP/Dif. into Paris Mec/442 SP/dif..for just
>>a
>>>>stereo sum .. Again, good sound.
>>>>
>>>>3200 master (analog outs) into Paris MEC/442.. 24bit(input Card)..then
>>24bit
>>>>out card..to master or internal bounce..
>>>>
>>>>You can't loose either way you go.. Grat choice!!
>>>>P.S. Put into an Argosy!!! :)
>>>>take care.
>>>>
>>>>- 3200 out (Adat x 2) 16 lightpipes stems into MEC (with 2 adat cards)..
>>>>For stem mixing. Very cool.. Very good sound. and provides a means of
>Matering
>>>>within Paris.
>>>>
>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a pretty ringing endorsement LaMont!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm definitely leaning towards the 3200 and Cubase 4. The only client
>>in
>>>>>my studio is me and I'm really just trying to get to a simpler workflow
>>>>,for
>>>>>the songwriting end of things, and still achieve quality results at
the
>>>>end
>>>>>of the process.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can you eplain to me in a little more detail how you (and apparently
>BT)
>>>>>would be/are using Paris as the master summing mixer/recorder in this
>>scenario?
>>>>>
>>>>>I've currently got Cubase SX3 lightpiped into Paris via a RME 9652 (
>a
>>>mini-Deej
>>>>>set-up if, you will) but being a guy who only gets to work on my stuff
>>>in
>>>>>the evenings after work or on the weekends, the opportunity for confusion
>>>>>in such a kludge ridden set-up doesn't lend itself to the creative workflow.
>>>>>That's why Cubase and a nice board/control surface appeals. My big dilemma
>>>>>though is that I still absolutely love the way Paris sounds.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, thanks a ton for the input, greatly appreciated! I've got much
>>>to
>>>>>consider.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>jon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Jon, I can chime in here on this question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I often work at a local studio http://www.lamourrecording.com/
>>>>>>which has (2) Yamaha's DM2000. I can't speak highly enough of these
>powerful
>>>>>>beast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Great feel, 96 channels @ 96K
>>>>>>Pro Tools, Neundo/Cubase/Sonar/Logic Controller
>>>>>>Nice Comps/EQs on every channel
>>>>>>(8) SPX-1000's DSP processors (REVerbs, Delays, Chorus.etc)
>>>>>>Some of the sweetest (24) Mic pres you'll find
>>>>>>All in a foot print that keeps the Engineer/Operator right in
>>>>>>front of the mix..There's a ton more features..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had a chance (2years) ago to take the then Tascam 3200 for week session
>>>>>>spin. Due to the fact that no body in our area had a O2r/96, we rented
>>>>>>the tascam.. Man, to my ears and others, the Tascam delivers the goods.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>would have to say that the Tascam 3200 sonics was more "thick" than
>the
>>>>>DM2000.
>>>>>>Different converters and clocks.. But, we mananged to get thru a sesion
>>>>>without
>>>>>>opening the manual!!
>>>>>>You're not going to do that with the Yammys.. he 3200 had full eq and
>>>dynamics
>>>>>>on every channel as well as I think 4 DSP processors for Verbs and
dleays
>>>>>>chorus FX.. The verbs were the star of this board. The algo's were
from
>>>>>TC!!
>>>>>>the verb masters. Man, these verbs sounded like our TC 3000 ..really!!.
>>>>>The
>>>>>>Eqs were usuable as are the Comps/Lim..We click on the DAW controller
>>>layer
>>>>>>button, scrolled to the DAW template (Pro Tools)..Boom!! "Houston We
>>have
>>>>>>Controll".. That easy.. We had transport, channel faders and Master
>faders
>>>>>>and edit scroll.. To be honest, we probable had more functions,but
like
>>>>>I
>>>>>>stated earlier, we had not read the manual..
>>>>>>Oh well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Like I told James, I'm looking seriously @ the DM4800 X2 for my Home
>>studio..To
>>>>>>host Both Nuendo & Pro Tools...AND yes, Liek BrianT does in Houston,
>>Paris
>>>>>>will be used a he master summing mixer/recorder..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The DM3200/4800 can't be beat in their price range. They have the sound,
>>>>>>looks, and product maturity. Tascam knew they had a winner with the
>DM24,then
>>>>>>knocked the ball out of the park with the DM3200, and now DM 4800..
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now that it's official that Mackie has dropped the Ball with the DXB(20K
>>>>>>Plus), now selling are drastic discounts. The DXB is a one sweet sounding
>>>>>>board as well. At 9k it competes very well with Yammys O2r/96..But,
>(2)
>>>>>x
>>>>>>DM4800 @ around is just as and (imo) more potent ..AND dropped in a
>cool
>>>>>>Argosy, BAMM!..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.argosyconsole.com/dm3200.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nanaheyhey@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for all the info James!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How do they stack up against the Yamaha boards? (O2r96v2 and the DM1000v2,etc)
>>>>>>>Also, Cubase implementation will be a key factor if I move from Paris.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>will consider the Yamaha boards too (used though due to price) because
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>the Yammy/Steinberg connection and better Cubase implementation I
would
>>>>>>suppose.
>>>>>>>The Tascam boards do seem like a very good value though... especially
>>>>if
>>>>>>>they don't break and are not horribly non-intuitive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By the way, the mic pres on the DM-32 and DM-48 are greatly improved
>>>>and
>>>>>>>vary
>>>>>>>>usable. It was only the DM-24 that had the problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>
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l.com" target="_blank">excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey Jon!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Some of the guys on the DA7 NG have switched to the Tascam DM 32s.
>>>
>>>>A
>>>>>>customer
>>>>>>>>>of mine also has one. The mixes from both source sound good. You
>>>should
>>>>>>>>>always test drive before you buy. You have to like it. I would
>think
>>>>>>>twice
>>>>>>>>>before buying a DM-24, the Mic pres were not so good, they had low
>>>head
>>>>>>>>room.
>>>>>>>>> If you use the DM-24 for line ins only, I think you'd be Ok. There
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>an upgrade for the mic pres through Tascam, they may no longer be
>>doing
>>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I hear the DM manuals are terrible, you can go down load them.
If
>>>you
>>>>>>>buy
>>>>>>>>>one, make sure you have 30 full days to test it. Clear your planner
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>test time. Read the manual in advance and go to the NG a lot before
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>get it. Every once in awhile Tascam puts out a lemon, so you want
>>>to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>able to fully test what you buy from them. Unless they have changed
>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>policy, they only have a 90 day warranty!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <snoid@sheboygan.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Anyone here actually had any real hands on with this board/controller,
>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>with Cubase 4? James got me intrigued but I have read that the
build
>>>>>>quolity
>>>>>>>>>>may be somewhat on cheesy side.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Just placed my order.
Thanks again Dimitiros!
Mark
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>You remember Wormhole ?
>Although there was a great support for us paris users regarding the update
>of wormhole I don't think that more than 3-4 of us ,including me, have bought
>wormhole.
>I don't wanna be pushy with your money and urge you to spend them towards
>anything for that matter but you understand my position and how we Paris
>users show our appreciation to this author of Vertex...
>We have to decide if we want some people get involved in developing Paris
>any further or let eventually Paris fade away...
>I formyself I am here for me and all of you to fight till nothing can be
>done...
>I will buy it because ALREADY is a GREAT plugin because you can SOLO a bunch
>of audio tracks along submixes , mute other and finally be able to do what
>clients sometimes (always ?) ask like can I hear please only the guitars
>? or can I hear only main and backing vocals ?
>Now add to the above this Latency compensation thing which was based on
a
>idea of mine with manually giving the latency of a certain plugin and letting
>the rest of audio tracks follow that latency.
>
>I am signing this:
>Dimitrios BitzenisJamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>If it's Battery 1, you'll need to upgrade it before it will even really
>work. It should be upgradable, though.
Define "work"... ummm, it works (and yes, I just checked, and
it's Battery 1). Dunno what's suposed to not "work" on it,
though.
NeilBattery 1 worked fine here - maybe some issues with advanced features,
but I never came across any of significance. Battery 2 works fine as well.
Dedric
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c1343b$1@linux...
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>If it's Battery 1, you'll need to upgrade it before it will even really
>
>>work. It should be upgradable, though.
>
> Define "work"... ummm, it works (and yes, I just checked, and
> it's Battery 1). Dunno what's suposed to not "work" on it,
> though.
>
> Neil"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>I may take yo up on that offer.
>Can Click tracks be generated Quickly and painlessly in battery.?
It plays back MIDI - it's a VSTi - so if you want to just create
a meaure of MIDI clicks on the 4-count, then copy & paste that
across the rest of your measures, then yeah, it's pretty quick
& easy.
>What are the benefits over Drumagog ? I thought they were the same thing
basically.
None - what are the benefits of teeth vs feet? :D They're
two different things, although the newer versions of D-Gog can
also do MIDI, while the older ones, cannot (I have an old
version of D-gog that I'll sell you cheep, too... I have a few
things I need to do some housecleaning on, get rid of some
stuff I no longer use).
>I really need a plug that makes quick easy click tracks with
>real drum sounds and records it to tape or spits out a wav file
>for import.
You can record Battery to .wav with either that TapeIt plugin
that Lamont posted a link to, or that Voxengo Recorder applet.
NeilI might be interested in your drumagog if the price is right
D
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c1381f$1@linux...
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>I may take yo up on that offer.
>>Can Click tracks be generated Quickly and painlessly in battery.?
>
> It plays back MIDI - it's a VSTi - so if you want to just create
> a meaure of MIDI clicks on the 4-count, then copy & paste that
> across the rest of your measures, then yeah, it's pretty quick
> & easy.
>
>>What are the benefits over Drumagog ? I thought they were the same thing
> basically.
>
> None - what are the benefits of teeth vs feet? :D They're
> two different things, although the newer versions of D-Gog can
> also do MIDI, while the older ones, cannot (I have an old
> version of D-gog that I'll sell you cheep, too... I have a few
> things I need to do some housecleaning on, get rid of some
> stuff I no longer use).
>
>>I really need a plug that makes quick easy click tracks with
>>real drum sounds and records it to tape or spits out a wav file
>>for import.
>
> You can record Battery to .wav with either that TapeIt plugin
> that Lamont posted a link to, or that Voxengo Recorder applet.
>
>
> Neil"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>I guess using the term bass trap to describe the cavity
between wall studs
>had me confused...I'm sure some frequencies get trapped in
there but I doubt it's low end.
So....... lessee... a 2'x4' reflector/airspace/insulator can
trap low end, but a 2'x'8' or 2'x10' one can't?
Got it."LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Lol!! Ok ..
>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school of production.
I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
guy.
:)It's been a while since I had to experience that prematurely released
POS. I don't have time to look 'em up right now but to read some of the
bugs I reported in the first release of Battery, you could look back on
Native instruments' forums.
There were some show stoppers, for what I do. The bug fix update helped
some. B2 helped a whole lot more. B3 is much more refined and expanded.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Battery 1 worked fine here - maybe some issues with advanced features,
> but I never came across any of significance. Battery 2 works fine as well.
>
> Dedric
>
> "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c1343b$1@linux...
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> If it's Battery 1, you'll need to upgrade it before it will even really
>>> work. It should be upgradable, though.
>> Define "work"... ummm, it works (and yes, I just checked, and
>> it's Battery 1). Dunno what's suposed to not "work" on it,
>> though.
>>
>> Neil
>
>Ridiculous!
They deserve worse and $150 to help each customer in repair? Sheezuz...
that won't be much help for a VIRII that is non-removeable... except for
restore. And Sony will want your blood to convince them that they were the
problem with your computer... Absolutely ridiculous and worthless
decision... They deserve more humiliation than a slap in the hand!
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bae1$1@linux...
>
> <begin paste>
> Sony settles with FTC
> The Federal Trade Commission says Sony BMG went too far with anti-piracy
> and other measure that "...limited the devices on which the music could be
> played, restricted the number of copies that could be made, and contained
> technology that monitored their listening habits to send them marketing
> messages."
> It also made customer computers susceptible to hackers. All of this should
> have been made clear to customers beforehand, says the FTC. Once on a
> customer's
> computer, the software was said to be difficult to remove, and this led to
> a requirement that the company reimburse customers up to 150 dollars for
> damage done to their computer while attempting to do so. Customers also
> have
> until 6/31/07 to exchange the CDs. "Installations of secret software that
> create security risks are intrusive and unlawful," said FTC Chairman
> Deborah
> Platt Majoras. "Consumers' computers belong to them, and companies must
> ade!
> quately disclose unexpected limitations on the customary use of their
> products
> so consumers can make informed decisions regarding whether to purchase and
> install that content."
>Hey Deej,
DJ wrote:
> So I hear the PCIe bus can handle 500MHz whereas our wimpy ass PCI
> busses can only go 133.
>
> I also hear that the PCIe bus doesn't share any bandwidth at all with
> the PCI bus.
http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pciexpress/
>
> Taken from a post on another forum:
>
> /*PCIe guarantees a certain amount of undivided
> bandwidth to a device in the PCIe slot. It's a dedicated channel. On a
> modern Intel Chipset like the 965 there will be some contention between
> devices on the south bridge chip (USB2, LAN, Serial ATA disks, PCIe) but
> the bandwidth between the north and south bridge chips is quite high
> relative to the bandwidth of the south bridge devices.*/
> /**/
> So I'm wondering what this means exactly? Does it mean that there is
> enough bandwidth to hang 7 x PCI cards in a 7 x Slot Magma chassis and
> not have to worry about IRQ sharing, especially if there is a PCIe
> graphics card in the equation?........
Yes all current PCI chipsets from Intel and AMD do this to some extant.
The 975 and 500x series Xeons ones seem to do a better job of it than
the 965 but I'm not sure if it because the south bridge connectivity or
other factors in the chipset design. There are also devices like this
that will keep your PCI free for your wacky needs.
http://www.gefanucembedded.com/products/774
This compatible with RME cards and UADs.
> .and of course, something like this gets the hampsters jumping on the
> wheel in my brain and my brain comes up with a way to potentially make
> a computer perform an unnatural act by using a PCI video card on the
> PCI bus since that bus doesn't share with anything else, thus
> eliminating any possibility of problems down the road with a graphics
> card.
Yes the PCI buss holds many of the devices on the south bridge, i.e,
firewire, usb, and many 3rd party sata controllers on the majority of
motherboard.
IRQ sharing still have to happen there are a limited number and will at
some point share. Sharing should not be an issue if you are using
current well designed hardware. Devies still use IRQs on the PCIe buss
also. PCI-e video cards work great. The issues seen with PCI-e video
cards was only seen now discontinued chipsets, Intell 915, 925 and
Nvidia Nforce 4 and the new AMR version.
>
> .....the stated conclusion from the other forum........
>
> */The bottom line is that a PCIe device with hard real time requirements
> (like a multiport audio device) will have fewer problems maintaining
> stable audio input and output./*
> *//*
> .......so there is morepotential to poperate a native system at lower
> latencies???
It is already possible on the regular PCI and PCI-x buss on current
motherboards. Becuase of OS/code level and to some extent hardware you
will not see substanually lower latencies than you see now. What you
will see is the possibility of high I/O and other funtionality per card.
>
> C'mon folks, step up to the mic and talk to me here.
>
> ;o)
>
> *
> *
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762HI Wilson
You might want to try installing the current version of PACE. Eariler
Waves used a PACE that was not compatible.
http://broadband.paceap.com/extensions/tpkd.zip
See if this works if not then either you will ahve to upgrade or use the
extra special download version.
Chris
Wilson wrote:
>Pardon my self-bump, but also wanted to ask the obvious that I forgot prior
>- and even if it works in XP, does Waves v2 work in PARIS in XP? I would
>assume if it works in XP, it should work with PARIS. Thanks in advance.
>
>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all, haven't posted in a while, but had an issue and thought maybe somebody
>>here might be able to help. I am successfully running PARIS 3 on XP (yay!
>>no problems at all!), but in this migration from ME to XP I haven't been
>>able to figure out how to get Waves Native Power Pack version 2 to work
>>
>>
>on
>
>
>>XP. I installed it, and it seemed to go okay in that there were no errors
>>during installation, but when running PARIS or Sound Forge 7 I don't see
>>the Waves NPP DX plugins at all. I did try to contact Waves just for the
>>heck of it, but they won't give any advice, which is understandable given
>>the age of version 2 and that in theory I could upgrade. I'm just hoping
>>to avoid the expense. Thanks, all.
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c13bd5$1@linux...
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>>I guess using the term bass trap to describe the cavity
> between wall studs
>>had me confused...I'm sure some frequencies get trapped in
> there but I doubt it's low end.
>
> So....... lessee... a 2'x4' reflector/airspace/insulator can
> trap low end, but a 2'x'8' or 2'x10' one can't?
>
> Got it.
From my understanding of base traps none of those wall cavities sizes will
absorb low end frequencies because there isn't enough a) volume of true dead
air space in the cavity and b) depth in the cavity to attenuate low end
frequencies.
Remember none of my 2X4 wall or ceiling panels are being used to trap or
absorb bass - they are basically broadband absorbers for mid range and I'm
sure they smooth out the rooms reflections somewhat too.
But when I use a 2x8 panel set across the corner of the room I have created
a 8 cubic foot (assuming my math is correct) dead air zone behind the corner
panel that is about 15" deep at it's maximum...or in effect created bass
trap
Granted several other factors also determine the true effectiveness of these
bass traps but the math is to mind boggling for my head right now...hell it
took my five minutes to figure out the volume of air behind my sorner panels
:-)
DonThanks Chris,
> Yes the PCI buss holds many of the devices on the south bridge, i.e,
> firewire, usb, and many 3rd party sata controllers on the majority of
> motherboard.
So there is traffic there after all. Makes sense. I'm just wondering if,
since the PCIe bus is handling the audio/DSP I/O, if the mobo resources
might be best used with the video card on the PCI bus. Maybe the PCIe
bandwidth/architecture is so efficient that this IRQ sharing **** being an
issue will abate in the future.
There are also devices like this
> that will keep your PCI free for your wacky needs.
> http://www.gefanucembedded.com/products/774
> This compatible with RME cards and UADs.
I called these guys today. they quoted me $2075.00 for one. I also talked to
UA tech support about this chassis. It is 64 bit compatible and there are
two busses. slots 1-4 share a buss and 5-7 share a bus. this would seem to
be a no brainer for my situation. I could hang my 4 x UAD-1 cards on the
first 4 slots, my HDSP's on the last three and "in theory" be able to take
advantage of the wider PCI bandwidth. The tests that UA did with these
chassis rated the 7 slot 64 bit Magma as performing poorly. That's a shame
as these are popping up on EBay now for around $1k
> It is already possible on the regular PCI and PCI-x buss on current
> motherboards. Becuase of OS/code level and to some extent hardware you
> will not see substanually lower latencies than you see now. What you will
> see is the possibility of high I/O and other funtionality per card.
I'm wondering if my GA-K8NS Ultra 939 fits into this category of mobos. It's
extremely quick with an AMD 64 4800 x 2. RME and UA both did a mighty fine
job with those new drivers. When Cubase 4 becomes 64 bit, I'm gonna format
myself a new HD and give it a go. I'd like to be able to max out my 4G RAM
potential. I'm not sure if it will be Vista or XP 64 though. There's a lot
of buzz about Vista being audio friendly, but it looks to me like that's
going to be if you use the new Windows driver. Might be a great situation
for Sonar users, but since RME and Cubase are ASIO heavy, it would seem that
these whizbang advantages might not apply.
;o)
Deej
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45c15231$1@linux...
> Hey Deej,
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> So I hear the PCIe bus can handle 500MHz whereas our wimpy ass PCI busses
>> can only go 133.
>> I also hear that the PCIe bus doesn't share any bandwidth at all with
>> the PCI bus.
>
>
>
> http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pciexpress/
>
>
>
>> Taken from a post on another forum:
>> /*PCIe guarantees a certain amount of undivided
>> bandwidth to a device in the PCIe slot. It's a dedicated channel. On a
>> modern Intel Chipset like the 965 there will be some contention between
>> devices on the south bridge chip (USB2, LAN, Serial ATA disks, PCIe) but
>> the bandwidth between the north and south bridge chips is quite high
>> relative to the bandwidth of the south bridge devices.*/
>> /**/ So I'm wondering what this means exactly? Does it mean that there is
>> enough bandwidth to hang 7 x PCI cards in a 7 x Slot Magma chassis and
>> not have to worry about IRQ sharing, especially if there is a PCIe
>> graphics card in the equation?........
>
>
> Yes all current PCI chipsets from Intel and AMD do this to some extant.
> The 975 and 500x series Xeons ones seem to do a better job of it than the
> 965 but I'm not sure if it because the south bridge connectivity or other
> factors in the chipset design. There are also devices like this that will
> keep your PCI free for your wacky nee
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ds.
> http://www.gefanucembedded.com/products/774
> This compatible with RME cards and UADs.
>
>> .and of course, something like this gets the hampsters jumping on the
>> wheel in my brain and my brain comes up with a way to potentially make a
>> computer perform an unnatural act by using a PCI video card on the PCI
>> bus since that bus doesn't share with anything else, thus eliminating any
>> possibility of problems down the road with a graphics card.
>
> Yes the PCI buss holds many of the devices on the south bridge, i.e,
> firewire, usb, and many 3rd party sata controllers on the majority of
> motherboard.
>
> IRQ sharing still have to happen there are a limited number and will at
> some point share. Sharing should not be an issue if you are using current
> well designed hardware. Devies still use IRQs on the PCIe buss also. PCI-e
> video cards work great. The issues seen with PCI-e video cards was only
> seen now discontinued chipsets, Intell 915, 925 and Nvidia Nforce 4 and
> the new AMR version.
>
>> .....the stated conclusion from the other forum........
>> */The bottom line is that a PCIe device with hard real time requirements
>> (like a multiport audio device) will have fewer problems maintaining
>> stable audio input and output./*
>> *//* .......so there is morepotential to poperate a native system at
>> lower latencies???
>
> It is already possible on the regular PCI and PCI-x buss on current
> motherboards. Becuase of OS/code level and to some extent hardware you
> will not see substanually lower latencies than you see now. What you will
> see is the possibility of high I/O and other funtionality per card.
>
>> C'mon folks, step up to the mic and talk to me here.
>> ;o)
>> *
>> *
>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>I ended up compressing the F*ck out of the snare and the Kick to get it
>thumping
>like I am used to hearing in commercial cds. First I compressed it with
>about 6db of reduction.
>It wasnt comparable to commercial CDs. So I hit it with about 12-16 db of
>reduction
>and it was suddenly a lot closer.
>Is this common or am I over doing it?
There's not such thing as "overdoing it" if that's what it
takes to getting what you want out of the sound. Another thing
you might try on Kick is multiband compression - 3 bands, and
set the middle bandwidth to 300hz to 3k, then duck the middle
band down... nice, no EQ needed in many instances. Snare, I just
tend to use an aggressive compressor & nearly always end up
boosting 5k & 10-12k to some extent - those freqs are pretty
essential for a good crackin' snare sound. I usually don't end
up compressing snare as much as you mentioned, but between -9db
& -12db isn't unusual for me.
>Should I try a different technique?
Yes, the Multiband thing, I already told you that! :)
>I was using the Shure Beta52A mic and recorded it at appx -6
or -8 db on the PARIS channel fader.
>16bit resolution no compression to tape.
What kind of mic pre are you using, and what other options
(if any) do you have in this area? Try different pres too,
don't forget they can make a big diff.
NeilJust ordered mine. Does it work on ME?
"Mark McDermott" <nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Just placed my order.
>
>Thanks again Dimitiros!
>
>Mark
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>You remember Wormhole ?
>>Although there was a great support for us paris users regarding the update
>>of wormhole I don't think that more than 3-4 of us ,including me, have
bought
>>wormhole.
>>I don't wanna be pushy with your money and urge you to spend them towards
>>anything for that matter but you understand my position and how we Paris
>>users show our appreciation to this author of Vertex...
>>We have to decide if we want some people get involved in developing Paris
>>any further or let eventually Paris fade away...
>>I formyself I am here for me and all of you to fight till nothing can be
>>done...
>>I will buy it because ALREADY is a GREAT plugin because you can SOLO a
bunch
>>of audio tracks along submixes , mute other and finally be able to do what
>>clients sometimes (always ?) ask like can I hear please only the guitars
>>? or can I hear only main and backing vocals ?
>>Now add to the above this Latency compensation thing which was based on
>a
>>idea of mine with manually giving the latency of a certain plugin and letting
>>the rest of audio tracks follow that latency.
>>
>>I am signing this:
>>Dimitrios Bitzenis
>I picked up the Windows and the Mac version - fingers crossed.
GeneOK, well if you and/or Brandon wnt either the Drumagog or the
Battery software, I'll let you have them for $50 each, shipping
included (unless shipping to Canada has some ridiculous
surcharges, Don... I think you're gonna have to cover the
tariff, either way). Both are version 1; as I said, they are not
newer versions of this software. Battery is VST, and D-Gog is
Direct-X.
Let me know if either of you want either one... e-mail is:
neil DOT henderson AT sbcglobal DOT net
Neil
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>I might be interested in your drumagog if the price is right
>
>D
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c1381f$1@linux...
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>I may take yo up on that offer.
>>>Can Click tracks be generated Quickly and painlessly in battery.?
>>
>> It plays back MIDI - it's a VSTi - so if you want to just create
>> a meaure of MIDI clicks on the 4-count, then copy & paste that
>> across the rest of your measures, then yeah, it's pretty quick
>> & easy.
>>
>>>What are the benefits over Drumagog ? I thought they were the same thing
>> basically.
>>
>> None - what are the benefits of teeth vs feet? :D They're
>> two different things, although the newer versions of D-Gog can
>> also do MIDI, while the older ones, cannot (I have an old
>> version of D-gog that I'll sell you cheep, too... I have a few
>> things I need to do some housecleaning on, get rid of some
>> stuff I no longer use).
>>
>>>I really need a plug that makes quick easy click tracks with
>>>real drum sounds and records it to tape or spits out a wav file
>>>for import.
>>
>> You can record Battery to .wav with either that TapeIt plugin
>> that Lamont posted a link to, or that Voxengo Recorder applet.
>>
>>
>> Neil
>
>"BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
alert.
Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
animated cartoon.
Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
possible improvised bombs.
Reuters Pictures
Photo
Editors Choice: Best pictures
from the last 24 hours.
View Slideshow
The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
blew it up.
By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
in parts of the city.
The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
"The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"Ted Turner says "my bad". heheh
http://www.drudgereport.com/Yea, when I first saw one of the devices I thought "IT'S A LIGHT BRITE!".
That being said it is now being reported that the people who planted the
"light brites" had put them up days ago and they weren't being noticed SO
they decided to call in a threat to the police. If that story pans out to
be true then they are in deep doo doo.
I do love Aqua Teen though! hahaha The movie comes out in March.
http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:71f3s2t7qnib500vkqbduo9g1ahdii4ugu@4ax.com...
> "BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
> badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
> that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
> alert.
>
> Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
> attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
> placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
> animated cartoon.
>
> Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
> possible improvised bombs.
> Reuters Pictures
> Photo
>
> Editors Choice: Best pictures
> from the last 24 hours.
> View Slideshow
>
> The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
> rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
> a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
> blew it up.
>
> By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
> found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
> squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
> in parts of the city.
>
> The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
> wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
> image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
> called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>
> "The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
> Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"http://www.homestarrunner.com/fhqwhgads.swfguess i'll have to get cable one of these days...
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:25:52 -0600, "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net>
wrote:
>Yea, when I first saw one of the devices I thought "IT'S A LIGHT BRITE!".
>That being said it is now being reported that the people who planted the
>"light brites" had put them up days ago and they weren't being noticed SO
>they decided to call in a threat to the police. If that story pans out to
>be true then they are in deep doo doo.
>
>I do love Aqua Teen though! hahaha The movie comes out in March.
>
>http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html
>
>
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:71f3s2t7qnib500vkqbduo9g1ahdii4ugu@4ax.com...
>> "BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>> badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>> that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>> alert.
>>
>> Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
>> attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>> placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>> animated cartoon.
>>
>> Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>> possible improvised bombs.
>> Reuters Pictures
>> Photo
>>
>> Editors Choice: Best pictures
>> from the last 24 hours.
>> View Slideshow
>>
>> The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>> rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>> a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>> blew it up.
>>
>> By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>> found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>> squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>> in parts of the city.
>>
>> The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>> wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>> image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>> called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>>
>> "The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
>> Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"
>I've quit watching TV or reading the paper. I do, however listen for the
sound of the drums echoing through the canyons at night and the bugling of
the spirit elk. They tell me what I must do.
;o)
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k244s2tb3k1jg8qqfekim46dj0r2fidfut@4ax.com...
> guess i'll have to get cable one of these days...
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:25:52 -0600, "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Yea, when I first saw one of the devices I thought "IT'S A LIGHT BRITE!".
>>That being said it is now being reported that the people who planted the
>>"light brites" had put them up days ago and they weren't being noticed SO
>>they decided to call in a threat to the police. If that story pans out to
>>be true then they are in deep doo doo.
>>
>>I do love Aqua Teen though! hahaha The movie comes out in March.
>>
>>http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:71f3s2t7qnib500vkqbduo9g1ahdii4ugu@4ax.com...
>>> "BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>>> badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>>> that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>>> alert.
>>>
>>> Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
>>> attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>>> placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>>> animated cartoon.
>>>
>>> Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>>> possible improvised bombs.
>>> Reuters Pictures
>>> Photo
>>>
>>> Editors Choice: Best pictures
>>> from the last 24 hours.
>>> View Slideshow
>>>
>>> The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>>> rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>>> a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>>> blew it up.
>>>
>>> By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>>> found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>>> squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>>> in parts of the city.
>>>
>>> The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>>> wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>>> image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>>> called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>>>
>>> "The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
>>> Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"
>>
>Hey Neil..
Yes, you're right about the record everything stereo. But, he and Quincy
were kings of the Layered approach and they had been using samples since
they were recording the Brothers Johnson's projects inthe mid 1970's..
Then when they started working with Michael Jackson, they took layers drums
with samples to and new level!!.. Starting with Beat It.. Layered hand claps,
Knocks..What Q calls "Ear Candy"..
They were syncing Consoles !!!
The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
Live drum kit, layered with:
-808 drum kit
-smack claps for snare accents
-Live bass
-Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
All mix to perfection..
And I'm only talking about the "Thriller" album..When you get to albums
BAD, Dangerous...They take the above approches to the "extreme"..Now you
add in Producer Michael himself,Teddy Riley (Mr Layer) & Bruce, and you had
a production dream team full of Live meets samples ..
"eil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Lol!! Ok ..
>>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school of
production.
>
>I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
>and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
>other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
>their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
>guy.
>
>:)>They were syncing Consoles !!!
Stop it!!!...just stop!!!!....if you don't there's gonna be trouble.
;o)
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c214e5$1@linux...
>
> Hey Neil..
>
> Yes, you're right about the record everything stereo. But, he and Quincy
> were kings of the Layered approach and they had been using samples since
> they were recording the Brothers Johnson's projects inthe mid 1970's..
>
> Then when they started working with Michael Jackson, they took layers
> drums
> with samples to and new level!!.. Starting with Beat It.. Layered hand
> claps,
> Knocks..What Q calls "Ear Candy"..
> They were syncing Consoles !!!
>
> The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
> Live drum kit, layered with:
>
> -808 drum kit
> -smack claps for snare accents
> -Live bass
> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
> All mix to perfection..
>
> And I'm only talking about the "Thriller" album..When you get to albums
> BAD, Dangerous...They take the above approches to the "extreme"..Now you
> add in Producer Michael himself,Teddy Riley (Mr Layer) & Bruce, and you
> had
> a production dream team full of Live meets samples ..
>
> "eil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Lol!! Ok ..
>>>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school of
> production.
>>
>>I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
>>and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
>>other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
>>their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
>>guy.
>>
>>:)
>LaMont,
you said:
The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
> Live drum kit, layered with:
>
> -808 drum kit
> -smack claps for snare accents
> -Live bass
> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
> All mix to perfection..
How do you know of these producton details?
Is there a resource or link to articles on the such?
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c214e5$1@linux...
>
> Hey Neil..
>
> Yes, you're right about the record everything stereo. But, he and Quincy
> were kings of the Layered approach and they had been using samples since
> they were recording the Brothers Johnson's projects inthe mid 1970's..
>
> Then when they started working with Michael Jackson, they took layers
drums
> with samples to and new level!!.. Starting with Beat It.. Layered hand
claps,
> Knocks..What Q calls "Ear Candy"..
> They were syncing Consoles !!!
>
> The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
> Live drum kit, layered with:
>
> -808 drum
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kit
> -smack claps for snare accents
> -Live bass
> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
> All mix to perfection..
>
> And I'm only talking about the "Thriller" album..When you get to albums
> BAD, Dangerous...They take the above approches to the "extreme"..Now you
> add in Producer Michael himself,Teddy Riley (Mr Layer) & Bruce, and you
had
> a production dream team full of Live meets samples ..
>
> "eil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> >
> >"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>Lol!! Ok ..
> >>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school of
> production.
> >
> >I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
> >and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
> >other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
> >their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
> >guy.
> >
> >:)
>They put these things under bridges, and in subway stations. It's no funnier
than yelling fire in a theater. It's a publicity stunt that should have
happened. If this is OK, some body will take it farther and something serious
could happen. The short answer to you question is no, there are people in
this world that are terrorist and really do want to kill us. This prank
wasn't cool or funny.
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>alert.
>
>Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
>attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>animated cartoon.
>
>Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>possible improvised bombs.
>Reuters Pictures
>Photo
>
>Editors Choice: Best pictures
>from the last 24 hours.
>View Slideshow
>
>The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>blew it up.
>
>By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>in parts of the city.
>
>The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>
>"The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
>Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"They put these things under bridges, and in subway stations. It's no funnier
than yelling fire in a theater. It's a publicity stunt that shouldn't have
happened. If this is OK, some body will take it farther and something serious
could happen. The short answer to you question is no, there are people in
this world that are terrorist and really do want to kill us. This prank
wasn't cool or funny.
Sorry typed too fast.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>They put these things under bridges, and in subway stations. It's no funnier
>than yelling fire in a theater. It's a publicity stunt that should have
>happened. If this is OK, some body will take it farther and something serious
>could happen. The short answer to you question is no, there are people
in
>this world that are terrorist and really do want to kill us. This prank
>wasn't cool or funny.
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>"BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>>badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>>that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>>alert.
>>
>>Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
>>attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>>placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>>animated cartoon.
>>
>>Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>>possible improvised bombs.
>>Reuters Pictures
>>Photo
>>
>>Editors Choice: Best pictures
>>from the last 24 hours.
>>View Slideshow
>>
>>The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>>rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>>a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>>blew it up.
>>
>>By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>>found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>>squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>>in parts of the city.
>>
>>The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>>wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>>image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>>called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>>
>>"The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
>>Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"
>Not sure where to ask, but y'all have been a great source of info and
resources, so here goes.
I want to build my own case for a mixing board. Custom case shops want too
much money, so I'd like to try the build-your-own approach.
The rectangular case challenge doesn't worry me at all... but I'd really
like to make it such that the inside is molded foam that matches my
console's contours.
So I was thinking about that canned stuff they sell in hardware stores for
insulating around windows and such, you know the canned foam that grows to
three times the size and then solidifies? So that stuff is perhaps a little
too stiff, and the three-times-its-size thing would make it hard to get the
right amount in, even though they have a variety of types, including one
that stays its original volume... but I digress...
I was hoping for better foam-type material. You know, something that gives a
little. Is there a way someone can buy some sort of power or two-part
mixture that, when mixed, turns into foam and cures? Nice, plump, soft foam?
I can sort of imagine the rest of the scenario: prepare my box, fill it
partially with the mixture, carefully place my console on top of the mixture
(of course, after carefully wrapping it with many layers of saran-wrap-like
stretch wrap plastic sheet), let it cure, cut out the stretch plastic sheet,
remove the console, and then line the foam with velour or some other
material. Repeat for the top half of the case.
But where do I find such foaming preparation for home use? Or is this
wishful thinking? Am I trying to reproduce an industrial-version service
(custom cases) into a home one?
Any of you out there ever done something like that?
Thanks... DanielHey DJ,
Yep.. They we're syncing consoles back in 1978 while recording Michael's
"Off the wall" album.
They also instituted the "working tracks" over-dub method using 2inch tape.
Where as they would say track 20 tracks of backing vocals to a tape, with
one track left for smpte sync. Then, get another tape for say strings, then
another for Horns & etc. All told, they were mixing up to 80 tracks per per
song on that album .and that was 1978..!!The album came out in 1979..
If you get a chance, take a listen to "Rock With You"..Lush,thick Backing
vocals, all done by Michael. The title track Off-The Wall vocals are as thicks
as I've ever heard, as are the Horns, Live strings, and many other ear-candy
tracks..
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>They were syncing Consoles !!!
>
>Stop it!!!...just stop!!!!....if you don't there's gonna be trouble.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c214e5$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Neil..
>>
>> Yes, you're right about the record everything stereo. But, he and Quincy
>> were kings of the Layered approach and they had been using samples since
>> they were recording the Brothers Johnson's projects inthe mid 1970's..
>>
>> Then when they started working with Michael Jackson, they took layers
>> drums
>> with samples to and new level!!.. Starting with Beat It.. Layered hand
>> claps,
>> Knocks..What Q calls "Ear Candy"..
>> They were syncing Consoles !!!
>>
>> The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
>> Live drum kit, layered with:
>>
>> -808 drum kit
>> -smack claps for snare accents
>> -Live bass
>> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
>> All mix to perfection..
>>
>> And I'm only talking about the "Thriller" album..When you get to albums
>> BAD, Dangerous...They take the above approches to the "extreme"..Now you
>> add in Producer Michael himself,Teddy Riley (Mr Layer) & Bruce, and you
>> had
>> a production dream team full of Live meets samples ..
>>
>> "eil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Lol!! Ok ..
>>>>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school of
>> production.
>>>
>>>I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
>>>and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
>>>other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
>>>their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
>>>guy.
>>>
>>>:)
>>
>
>Microsoft released a tool in December 2005 that will cleanly remove the Sony
Rootkit.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830/
Chuck
"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>Ridiculous!
>
>They deserve worse and $150 to help each customer in repair? Sheezuz...
>that won't be much help for a VIRII that is non-removeable... except for
>restore. And Sony will want your blood to convince them that they were
the
>problem with your computer... Absolutely ridiculous and worthless
>decision... They deserve more humiliation than a slap in the hand!
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bae1$1@linux...
>>
>> <begin paste>
>> Sony settles with FTC
>> The Federal Trade Commission says Sony BMG went too far with anti-piracy
>> and other measure that "...limited the devices on which the music could
be
>> played, restricted the number of copies that could be made, and contained
>> technology that monitored their listening habits to send them marketing
>> messages."
>> It also made customer computers susceptible to hackers. All of this should
>> have been made clear to customers beforehand, says the FTC. Once on a
>> customer's
>> computer, the software was said to be difficult to remove, and this led
to
>> a requirement that the company reimburse customers up to 150 dollars for
>> damage done to their computer while attempting to do so. Customers also
>> have
>> until 6/31/07 to exchange the CDs. "Installations of secret software that
>> create security risks are intrusive and unlawful," said FTC Chairman
>> Deborah
>> Platt Majoras. "Consumers' computers belong to them, and companies must
>> ade!
>> quately disclose unexpected limitations on the customary use of their
>> products
>> so consumers can make informed decisions regarding whether to purchase
and
>> install that content."
>>
>
>Hey Brandon,(I did not forget to get you that example) session lasted till
1:00 AM, and I'm fighting a flu.
But, the resource comes from the Album credits, and if you Google Bruce Swedien,
he has many articles of the Michael Jackson /Quincy Jones production techniques.
AND, lastly, just listen to the tracks itself..They are almost self explanatory..
Take care..
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>LaMont,
>
>you said:
>The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
>> Live drum kit, layered with:
>>
>> -808 drum kit
>> -smack claps for snare accents
>> -Live bass
>> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
>> All mix to perfection..
>
>
>How do you know of these producton details?
>Is there a resource or link to articles on the such?
>
>--
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c214e5$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Neil..
>>
>> Yes, you're right about the record everything stereo. But, he and Quincy
>> were kings of the Layered approach and they had been using samples since
>> they were recording the Brothers Johnson's projects inthe mid 1970's..
>>
>> Then when they started working with Michael Jackson, they took layers
>drums
>> with samples to and new level!!.. Starting with Beat It.. Layered hand
>claps,
>> Knocks..What Q calls "Ear Candy"..
>> They were syncing Consoles !!!
>>
>> The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
>> Live drum kit, layered with:
>>
>> -808 drum kit
>> -smack claps for snare accents
>> -Live bass
>> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
>> All mix to perfection..
>>
>> And I'm only talking about the "Thriller" album..When you get to albums
>> BAD, Dangerous...They take the above approches to the "extreme"..Now you
>> add in Producer Michael himself,Teddy Riley (Mr Layer) & Bruce, and you
>had
>> a production dream team full of Live meets samples ..
>>
>> "eil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Lol!! Ok ..
>> >>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school
of
>> production.
>> >
>> >I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
>> >and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
>> >other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
>> >their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
>> >guy.
>> >
>> >:)
>>
>
>You are the as man Chuck..Thanks..
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Microsoft released a tool in December 2005 that will cleanly remove the
Sony
>Rootkit.
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830/
>
>Chuck
>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>Ridiculous!
>>
>>They deserve worse and $150 to help each customer in repair? Sheezuz...
>
>>that won't be much help for a VIRII that is non-removeable... except for
>
>>restore. And Sony will want your blood to convince them that they were
>the
>>problem with your computer... Absolutely ridiculous and worthless
>>decision... They deserve more humiliation than a slap in the hand!
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bae1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> <begin paste>
>>> Sony settles with FTC
>>> The Federal Trade Commission says Sony BMG went too far with anti-piracy
>>> and other measure that "...limited the devices on which the music could
>be
>>> played, restricted the number of copies that could be made, and contained
>>> technology that monitored their listening habits to send them marketing
>
>>> messages."
>>> It also made customer computers susceptible to hackers. All of this should
>>> have been made clear to customers beforehand, says the FTC. Once on a
>
>>> customer's
>>> computer, the software was said to be difficult to remove, and this led
>to
>>> a requirement that the company reimburse customers up to 150 dollars
for
>>> damage done to their computer while attempting to do so. Customers also
>
>>> have
>>> until 6/31/07 to exchange the CDs. "Installations of secret software
that
>>> create security risks are intrusive and unlawful," said FTC Chairman
>>> Deborah
>>> Platt Majoras. "Consumers' computers belong to them, and companies must
>
>>> ade!
>>> quately disclose unexpected limitations on the customary use of their
>
>>> products
>>> so consumers can make informed decisions regarding whether to purchase
>and
>>> install that content."
>>>
>>
>>
>Agreed!! But, you know the lawyers made out like bandits!!
"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>Ridiculous!
>
>They deserve worse and $150 to help each customer in repair? Sheezuz...
>that won't be much help for a VIRII that is non-removeable... except for
>restore. And Sony will want your blood to convince them that they were
the
>problem with your computer... Absolutely ridiculous and worthless
>decision... They deserve more humiliation than a slap in the hand!
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bae1$1@linux...
>>
>> <begin paste>
>> Sony settles with FTC
>> The Federal Trade Commission says Sony BMG went too far with anti-piracy
>> and other measure that "...limited the devices on which the music could
be
>> played, restricted the number of copies that could be made, and contained
>> technology that monitored their listening habits to send them marketing
>> messages."
>> It also made customer computers susceptible to hackers. All of this should
>> have been made clear to customers beforehand, says the FTC. Once on a
>> customer's
>> computer, the software was said to be difficult to remove, and this led
to
>> a requirement that the company reimburse customers up to 150 dollars for
>> damage done to their computer while attempting to do so. Customers also
>> have
>> until 6/31/07 to exchange the CDs. "Installations of secret software that
>> create security risks are intrusive and unlawful," said FTC Chairman
>> Deborah
>> Platt Majoras. "Consumers' computers belong to them, and companies must
>> ade!
>> quately disclose unexpected limitations on the customary use of their
>> products
>> so consumers can make informed decisions regarding whether to purchase
and
>> install that content."
>>
>
>I don't know that "prank" is the right term because that normally means they
mean to confuse but I think it was just for advertising right?
Also the media is saying the "device" was a "hoax" and I don't think hoax
applies and maybe not even device as much as they are using it in the media.
Shock the public, that's our media.Daniel,
I've built a million custom cases and haven't come across anything like the
foam your looking for. You can find the best sheet type foam rubber at
upholstery shops if you decide to go that route. If you need the protection
of a flight case, I would strongly suggest biting the bullet and buying a
professional case. I bought a case for my Mackie TT24 mixer from a store on
eBay for under $250.00 and the TT24 is a good sized, heavy board. Depending
on what model mixer you have, you might be able to get a decent case for
under $100.00.
Tony
"D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message news:45c2258a@linux...
> Not sure where to ask, but y'all have been a great source of info and
> resources, so here goes.
>
> I want to build my own case for a mixing board. Custom case shops want too
> much money, so I'd like to try the build-your-own approach.
>
> The rectangular case challenge doesn't worry me at all... but I'd really
> like to make it such that the inside is molded foam that matches my
> console's contours.
>
> So I was thinking about that canned stuff they sell in hardware stores for
> insulating around windows and such, you know the canned foam that grows to
> three times the size and then solidifies? So that stuff is perhaps a
> little too stiff, and the three-times-its-size thing would make it hard to
> get the right amount in, even though they have a variety of types,
> including one that stays its original volume... but I digress...
>
> I was hoping for better foam-type material. You know, something that gives
> a little. Is there a way someone can buy some sort of power or two-part
> mixture that, when mixed, turns into foam and cures? Nice, plump, soft
> foam?
>
> I can sort of imagine the rest of the scenario: prepare my box, fill it
> partially with the mixture, carefully place my console on top of the
> mixture (of course, after carefully wrapping it with many layers of
> saran-wrap-like stretch wrap plastic sheet), let it cure, cut out the
> stretch plastic sheet, remove the console, and then line the foam with
> velour or some other material. Repeat for the top half of the case.
>
> But where do I find such foaming preparation for home use? Or is this
> wishful thinking? Am I trying to reproduce an industrial-version service
> (custom cases) into a home one?
>
> Any of you out there ever done something like that?
>
> Thanks... Daniel
>Also note they were put up in numerous other cities all of which removed
them without a panic.
Again if you look at them they look like 1' light brites. :)
If it looked like a bomb, even slightly then ok... be suspicous.
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>Over and out
:-)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45c247c0$1@linux...
>
> Thanks Don for all your efforts and insight!!!
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>
>>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c13bd5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I guess using the term bass trap to describe the cavity
>>> between wall studs
>>>>had me confused...I'm sure some frequencies get trapped in
>>> there but I doubt it's low end.
>>>
>>> So....... lessee... a 2'x4' reflector/airspace/insulator can
>>> trap low end, but a 2'x'8' or 2'x10' one can't?
>>>
>>> Got it.
>>
>>From my understanding of base traps none of those wall cavities sizes will
>
>>absorb low end frequencies because there isn't enough a) volume of true
> dead
>>air space in the cavity and b) depth in the cavity to attenuate low end
>
>>frequencies.
>>
>>Remember none of my 2X4 wall or ceiling panels are being used to trap or
>
>>absorb bass - they are basically broadband absorbers for mid range and
> I'm
>>sure they smooth out the rooms reflections somewhat too.
>>
>>But when I use a 2x8 panel set across the corner of the room I have
>>created
>
>>a 8 cubic foot (assuming my math is correct) dead air zone behind the
>>corner
>
>>panel that is about 15" deep at it's maximum...or in effect created bass
>
>>trap
>>
>>Granted several other factors also determine the true effectiveness of
>>these
>
>>bass traps but the math is to mind boggling for my head right now...hell
> it
>>took my five minutes to figure out the volume of air behind my sorner
>>panels
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>you sure you're not just hearing a reflection of blowing your own
nose???
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:13:40 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>I've quit watching TV or reading the paper. I do, however listen for the
>sound of the drums echoing through the canyons at night and the bugling of
>the spirit elk. They tell me what I must do.
>
>;o)
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:k244s2tb3k1jg8qqfekim46dj0r2fidfut@4ax.com...
>> guess i'll have to get cable one of these days...
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:25:52 -0600, "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Yea, when I first saw one of the devices I thought "IT'S A LIGHT BRITE!".
>>>That being said it is now being reported that the people who planted the
>>>"light brites" had put them up days ago and they weren't being noticed SO
>>>they decided to call in a threat to the police. If that story pans out to
>>>be true then they are in deep doo doo.
>>>
>>>I do love Aqua Teen though! hahaha The movie comes out in March.
>>>
>>>http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:71f3s2t7qnib500vkqbduo9g1ahdii4ugu@4ax.com...
>>>> "BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>>>> badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>>>> that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>>>> alert.
>>>>
>>>> Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
>>>> attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>>>> placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>>>> animated cartoon.
>>>>
>>>> Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>>>> possible improvised bombs.
>>>> Reuters Pictures
>>>> Photo
>>>>
>>>> Editors Choice: Best pictures
>>>> from the last 24 hours.
>>>> View Slideshow
>>>>
>>>> The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>>>> rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>>>> a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>>>> blew it up.
>>>>
>>>> By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>>>> found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>>>> squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>>>> in parts of the city.
>>>>
>>>> The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>>>> wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>>>> image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>>>> called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>>>>
>>>> "The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
>>>> Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"
>>>
>>
>thank you.
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:33:12 -0600, "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net>
wrote:
>Also note they were put up in numerous other cities all of which removed
>them without a panic.
>
>Again if you look at them they look like 1' light brites. :)
>
>If it looked like a bomb, even slightly then ok... be suspicous.
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c23aa1$1@linux...
>>
>> I don't know that "prank" is the right term because that normally means
>> they
>> mean to confuse but I think it was just for advertising right?
>>
>> Also the media is saying the "device" was a "hoax" and I don't think hoax
>> applies and maybe not even device as much as they are using it in the
>> media.
>> Shock the public, that's our media.
>Sounds nice.. I have to give it twirl..
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
> would like to note here that after working a coupkle of days with faderworks
>I don't know how could I work (mix) before in Paris !
>Amazing..
>I have put 64 instances along 4 eds cards as a standard preset.
>I group all the instruments accordingly, drums, perc, ac.guitars, el.guitars,
>back. vocals, strings, pads, etc.
>Now pushing solo on a faderworks instance on any audio track you here only
>the group it belongs too, or mute !! the group.
>I also use the latency compensator.
>Putting an waves rvox I type 64 and all faderworks go up to 64.
>Putting a rchannel from waves on snare it needs a 65 , so I type 65 and
all
>others go up just one sample to 65 !!
>fantastic.
>I encourage all that you bought it, USE IT.
>You can ask me anything by the way if someone has some questions with it.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>You are the as man Chuck..Thanks..
Chuck's a proctologist?
:D"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote:
>Also note they were put up in numerous other cities all of which removed
>them without a panic.
>
>Again if you look at them they look like 1' light brites. :)
>
>If it looked like a bomb, even slightly then ok... be suspicous.
They said in a news report, that some of the devices were boxes with flashing
lights and some had wires hanging out of them. They looked suspicious, that's
why they blew some of them up. The authorities can't take chances with stuff
like this. These were placed under bridges and in odd places in the subway
system.
This was on public property! If I was to promote a movie or a music CD,
what would be Ok for me to put on public property to promote my stuff???
It's not Ok! There is too much crazy shit going on in the world for this
kind of thing to be Ok.
James
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c23aa1$1@linux...
>>
>> I don't know that "prank" is the right term because that normally means
>> they
>> mean to confuse but I think it was just for advertising right?
>>
>> Also the media is saying the "device" was a "hoax" and I don't think hoax
>> applies and maybe not even device as much as they are using it in the
>> media.
>> Shock the public, that's our media.
>
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Saaaaweeeet!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritch.net> wrote in message =
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Sounds nice.. I have to give it twirl..
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
> would like to note here that after working a coupkle of days with =
faderworks
>I don't know how could I work (mix) before in Paris !
>Amazing..
>I have put 64 instances along 4 eds cards as a standard preset.
>I group all the instruments accordingly, drums, perc, ac.guitars, =
el.guitars,
>back. vocals, strings, pads, etc.
>Now pushing solo on a faderworks instance on any audio track you here =
only
>the group it belongs too, or mute !! the group.
>I also use the latency compensator.
>Putting an waves rvox I type 64 and all faderworks go up to 64.
>Putting a rchannel from waves on snare it needs a 65 , so I type 65 =
and
all
>others go up just one sample to 65 !!
>fantastic.
>I encourage all that you bought it, USE IT.
>You can ask me anything by the way if someone has some questions with =
it.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
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Anyone with data should post here so we can compile a complete list.
I only know some of the latencies but not all.
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------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C7461F.30EBAAB0--Bruce is on gearslutz.com back around September-October 06. He talks about
some of his techniques such as how he gets his kick drum sounds(with Pix),
what console he uses and what he masters to these days. It's a good read.
James
"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Brandon,(I did not forget to get you that example) session lasted till
>1:00 AM, and I'm fighting a flu.
>
>But, the resource comes from the Album credits, and if you Google Bruce
Swedien,
>he has many articles of the Michael Jackson /Quincy Jones production techniques.
>AND, lastly, just listen to the tracks itself..They are almost self explanatory..
>Take care..
>
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>LaMont,
>>
>>you said:
>>The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
>>> Live drum kit, layered with:
>>>
>>> -808 drum kit
>>> -smack claps for snare accents
>>> -Live bass
>>> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
>>> All mix to perfection..
>>
>>
>>How do you know of these producton details?
>>Is there a resource or link to articles on the such?
>>
>>--
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c214e5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Neil..
>>>
>>> Yes, you're right about the record everything stereo. But, he and Quincy
>>> were kings of the Layered approach and they had been using samples since
>>> they were recording the Brothers Johnson's projects inthe mid 1970's..
>>>
>>> Then when they started working with Michael Jackson, they took layers
>>drums
>>> with samples to and new level!!.. Starting with Beat It.. Layered hand
>>claps,
>>> Knocks..What Q calls "Ear Candy"..
>>> They were syncing Consoles !!!
>>>
>>> The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
>>> Live drum kit, layered with:
>>>
>>> -808 drum kit
>>> -smack claps for snare accents
>>> -Live bass
>>> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
>>> All mix to perfection..
>>>
>>> And I'm only talking about the "Thriller" album..When you get to albums
>>> BAD, Dangerous...They take the above approches to the "extreme"..Now
you
>>> add in Producer Michael himself,Teddy Riley (Mr Layer) & Bruce, and you
>>had
>>> a production dream team full of Live meets samples ..
>>>
>>> "eil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Lol!! Ok ..
>>> >>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school
>of
>>> production.
>>> >
>>> >I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
>>> >and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
>>> >other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
>>> >their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
>>> >guy.
>>> >
>>> >:)
>>>
>>
>>
>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.phpthe wind speaks to me. It doesn't matter from whence............
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3vh4s2pdku3qeott2a8vlcfc6e8241mjm8@4ax.com...
> you sure you're not just hearing a reflection of blowing your own
> nose???
>
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:13:40 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I've quit watching TV or reading the paper. I do, however listen for the
>>sound of the drums echoing through the canyons at night and the bugling of
>>the spirit elk. They tell me what I must do.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:k244s2tb3k1jg8qqfekim46dj0r2fidfut@4ax.com...
>>> guess i'll have to get cable one of these days...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 07:25:52 -0600, "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yea, when I first saw one of the devices I thought "IT'S A LIGHT
>>>>BRITE!".
>>>>That being said it is now being reported that the people who planted the
>>>>"light brites" had put them up days ago and they weren't being noticed
>>>>SO
>>>>they decided to call in a threat to the police. If that story pans out
>>>>to
>>>>be true then they are in deep doo doo.
>>>>
>>>>I do love Aqua Teen though! hahaha The movie comes out in March.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/movie/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:71f3s2t7qnib500vkqbduo9g1ahdii4ugu@4ax.com...
>>>>> "BOSTON (Reuters) - A television network's marketing campaign went
>>>>> badly awry on Wednesday, causing a day-long security scare in Boston
>>>>> that closed bridges, shut major roads and put hundreds of police on
>>>>> alert.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologizing for Boston's biggest security alert since the September 11
>>>>> attacks more than five years ago, Turner Broadcasting said it had
>>>>> placed electronic devices at bridges and other spots to promote an
>>>>> animated cartoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Police mistook the small, battery-powered electronic billboards as
>>>>> possible improvised bombs.
>>>>> Reuters Pictures
>>>>> Photo
>>>>>
>>>>> Editors Choice: Best pictures
>>>>> from the last 24 hours.
>>>>> View Slideshow
>>>>>
>>>>> The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>>>>> rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>>>>> a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>>>>> blew it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>>>>> found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>>>>> squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>>>>> in parts of the city.
>>>>>
>>>>> The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>>>>> wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>>>>> image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>>>>> called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>>>>>
>>>>> "The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
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improvised bombs.
>>>>>>>Reuters Pictures
>>>>>>>Photo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Editors Choice: Best pictures
>>>>>>>from the last 24 hours.
>>>>>>>View Slideshow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The discovery of the first one on a bridge led police to stop morning
>>>>>>>rush-hour traffic on an interstate highway just north of Boston, halt
>>>>>>>a busy train line, cordon off the area and deploy a bomb squad, which
>>>>>>>blew it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By afternoon, at least nine more of the "suspicious" devices were
>>>>>>>found. Authorities mobilized emergency crews, federal agents, bomb
>>>>>>>squads, hundreds of police and the U.S. Coast Guard as traffic froze
>>>>>>>in parts of the city.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The billboards, encased in dark plastic, consisted of blinking lights
>>>>>>>wired to an electronic circuit board to project an animated cartoon
>>>>>>>image in an outdoor promotion for a show on Turner's Cartoon Network
>>>>>>>called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"The 'packages' in question are magnetic lights that pose no danger,"
>>>>>>>Turner Broadcasting System Inc., a unit of Time Warner Inc., said"
>>>>>>
>>Headed to email right now. Thanks for the heads up!
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi John,
>yes it works although there is no official support for it.
>He has tested it under Me.
>Please email the vertex author that you are a Paris user, we need some kind
>of evidence for future "Paris" tweaks !!
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>Just ordered mine. Does it work on ME?
>>
>>
>>"Mark McDermott" <nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Just placed my order.
>>>
>>>Thanks again Dimitiros!
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>You remember Wormhole ?
>>>>Although there was a great support for us paris users regarding the update
>>>>of wormhole I don't think that more than 3-4 of us ,including me, have
>>bought
>>>>wormhole.
>>>>I don't wanna be pushy with your money and urge you to spend them towards
>>>>anything for that matter but you understand my position and how we Paris
>>>>users show our appreciation to this author of Vertex...
>>>>We have to decide if we want some people get involved in developing Paris
>>>>any further or let eventually Paris fade away...
>>>>I formyself I am here for me and all of you to fight till nothing can
>be
>>>>done...
>>>>I will buy it because ALREADY is a GREAT plugin because you can SOLO
a
>>bunch
>>>>of audio tracks along submixes , mute other and finally be able to do
>what
>>>>clients sometimes (always ?) ask like can I hear please only the guitars
>>>>? or can I hear only main and backing vocals ?
>>>>Now add to the above this Latency compensation thing which was based
on
>>>a
>>>>idea of mine with manually giving the latency of a certain plugin and
>letting
>>>>the rest of audio tracks follow that latency.
>>>>
>>>>I am signing this:
>>>>Dimitrios Bitzenis
>>>
>>
>Man, I saved all of his post then PDF' them to a binder :)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Bruce is on gearslutz.com back around September-October 06. He talks about
>some of his techniques such as how he gets his kick drum sounds(with Pix),
>what console he uses and what he masters to these days. It's a good read.
>
>James
>
>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Brandon,(I did not forget to get you that example) session lasted till
>>1:00 AM, and I'm fighting a flu.
>>
>>But, the resource comes from the Album credits, and if you Google Bruce
>Swedien,
>>he has many articles of the Michael Jackson /Quincy Jones production techniques.
>>AND, lastly, just listen to the tracks itself..They are almost self explanatory..
>>Take care..
>>
>>
>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>LaMont,
>>>
>>>you said:
>>>The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
>>>> Live drum kit, layered with:
>>>>
>>>> -808 drum kit
>>>> -smack claps for snare accents
>>>> -Live bass
>>>> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
>>>> All mix to perfection..
>>>
>>>
>>>How do you know of these producton details?
>>>Is there a resource or link to articles on the such?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Brandon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:45c214e5$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hey Neil..
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you're right about the record everything stereo. But, he and Quincy
>>>> were kings of the Layered approach and they had been using samples since
>>>> they were recording the Brothers Johnson's projects inthe mid 1970's..
>>>>
>>>> Then when they started working with Michael Jackson, they took layers
>>>drums
>>>> with samples to and new level!!.. Starting with Beat It.. Layered hand
>>>claps,
>>>> Knocks..What Q calls "Ear Candy"..
>>>> They were syncing Consoles !!!
>>>>
>>>> The song PYT on (Thriller) is a perfect example of what I'm talking
about:
>>>> Live drum kit, layered with:
>>>>
>>>> -808 drum kit
>>>> -smack claps for snare accents
>>>> -Live bass
>>>> -Synth Moog bass (mixed tightly ) together to perfection
>>>> All mix to perfection..
>>>>
>>>> And I'm only talking about the "Thriller" album..When you get to albums
>>>> BAD, Dangerous...They take the above approches to the "extreme"..Now
>you
>>>> add in Producer Michael himself,Teddy Riley (Mr Layer) & Bruce, and
you
>>>had
>>>> a production dream team full of Live meets samples ..
>>>>
>>>> "eil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Lol!! Ok ..
>>>> >>Neil and Others, I come form the Quincy Jones /Bruce Swedien school
>>of
>>>> production.
>>>> >
>>>> >I thought Bruce was more of a: "record everything in stereo,
>>>> >and some things in stereo twice" kinda guy, not a: "I'll let
>>>> >other people do the recording & I'll use several tracks of
>>>> >their samples because I can't record a decent kick drum" kinda
>>>> >guy.
>>>> >
>>>> >:)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hey Gene,
>Don't cross your fingers you will be thrilled with it...:)
>Please email the author on Vertex side , same email that you bought it as
>a Paris user.
>R\That is because if we want some kind of "Paris" update he must know that
>there are some Paris users who actually bought it !!
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
Did that and I got a nice email back from Peter Lang.
GeneThey seem to be trying to resurrect BeOS.
I'd rather see it happen on Linux too
TCB wrote:
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>
>>http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>
>>
>
>Uh, the really really obvious one, why not use linux?
>
>TCB
>
>
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45c259fb$1@linux...
>
> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote:
>>Also note they were put up in numerous other cities all of which removed
>
>>them without a panic.
>>
>>Again if you look at them they look like 1' light brites. :)
>>
>>If it looked like a bomb, even slightly then ok... be suspicous.
>
> They said in a news report, that some of the devices were boxes with
> flashing
> lights and some had wires hanging out of them. They looked suspicious,
> that's
> why they blew some of them up. The authorities can't take chances with
> stuff
> like this. These were placed under bridges and in odd places in the
> subway
> system.
>
> This was on public property! If I was to promote a movie or a music CD,
> what would be Ok for me to put on public property to promote my stuff???
> It's not Ok! There is too much crazy shit going on in the world for this
> kind of thing to be Ok.
>
> James
>
>
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c23aa1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I don't know that "prank" is the right term because that normally means
>
>>> they
>>> mean to confuse but I think it was just for advertising right?
>>>
>>> Also the media is saying the "device" was a "hoax" and I don't think
>>> hoax
>>> applies and maybe not even device as much as they are using it in the
>
>>> media.
>>> Shock the public, that's our media.
>>
>>
>9 other cities had no problems with them...they just removed them
without fanfare.
On 2 Feb 2007 08:22:03 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote:
>>Also note they were put up in numerous other cities all of which removed
>
>>them without a panic.
>>
>>Again if you look at them they look like 1' light brites. :)
>>
>>If it looked like a bomb, even slightly then ok... be suspicous.
>
>They said in a news report, that some of the devices were boxes with flashing
>lights and some had wires hanging out of them. They looked suspicious, that's
>why they blew some of them up. The authorities can't take chances with stuff
>like this. These were placed under bridges and in odd places in the subway
>system.
>
>This was on public property! If I was to promote a movie or a music CD,
>what would be Ok for me to put on public property to promote my stuff???
> It's not Ok! There is too much crazy shit going on in the world for this
>kind of thing to be Ok.
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>James
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