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| Re: Ron Paul is the greatest ! [message #94538 is a reply to message #94537] |
Wed, 09 January 2008 17:42   |
Sarah
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t;time
>>> working on them, and they really are a dream come true for me - both
>>> having
>>> them and making them.
>>>
>>> The Amp was the hardest one yet. took probably around 75 hours to finish,
>>> and it built on countless hours learning about the plugins before. It's
>>> still got me wondering why a MOV command from main memory into a register
>>> done by the logic unit is 4 times as loud (2 bits offset) as compared
>to
>>> the same MOV command by the Math unit. That lead to a mean bug that
took
>>> forever to track down.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it just doesn't feel right spending that kind of time and watching
>>> dozens and dozens of copies get downloaded when only 6 people cared enough
>>> to pay anything for it. And of those 6, one person doesn't own PARIS
>
>>> anymore,
>>> and another is waiting for a Mac version. So, of all the people who
>>> downloaded
>>> and hopefully used the code, only 4 people gave anything for it.
>>>
>>> Anyway, the download links are gone. You can still pay anything you
want
>>> - there are no set prices. But, access to the code will require sending
>>> "something." If this upsets anyone, I apologize. I probably set myself
>>> up for this. I can be a bit naive.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
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>>
>Thanks Dedric , you are right, you can chain 3 Fireface's. And James you are
right as well. Motu uses their proprieary Firewire protocol with their interfaces..So,
yes you can chain up to 4 units.
"LaMont" <
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| Re: Ron Paul is the greatest ! [message #94541 is a reply to message #94538] |
Wed, 09 January 2008 21:22 |
Deej
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es. I really liked it. What are the
>credits on this?
>
>Mike R wrote:
>> Sorry about the deadlink earlier.
>> Any feedback at all is welcome.
>> MRDo these other units access the dsp within the host mixer for native mixing,
or just controlled by the host mixer for use in the dsp mixer if you either
mix there after mixing natively, or for monitor feeds, etc (a la the Yammy
DSP2416 from a few years ago - cool in a way, but a big pain to use since
you either mixed natively, or on the DSP2416).
We've been wanting Fairlight to release their CC-1 card for general VST use
and access from any host, but of course it's only developed for Fairlight
consoles, so no really joy there for other apps.
Dedric
On 3/16/08 11:27 PM, in article 47ddf319$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "That part could be tied to Cubase, but
> though it doesn't say so, so my guess is the dsp is most likely VST, and
> the audio is ASIO, so any VST/ASIO app should be able to use it."
>
> Yes, any vst/asio can use the dsp via it's separate mixer(ala total mix and
> the like). However, In Cubase, it has a direct route into Cubase's mixer
> adn smoothly integrating with COntrol Room..Bypassing the the units own
> separate
> mixer.
>
> So, lets see, we have Motu's new unit with onboard dso, TC's units with dsp,
> M-audio's new unit, EMU and now Yammy. Is this a trend? Will these type of
> units get more powerful DSPs? We'll have to wait and see. But, these kinds
> of units does solve a lot a common DAW problems.
> BTW: Yammys plugins (REV-X and their Vinatge Comps and EQS)found on the
> DM-2000
> MII and their Motif XS keyboards are really top notch. So, I guess these
> will be trickling downward into the VST realm. Nice..
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> On 3/16/08 5:45 PM, in article 47dda2fd$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Which?
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| Re: Ron Paul is the greatest ! [message #94542 is a reply to message #94541] |
Wed, 09 January 2008 22:59 |
Kim
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>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> LaMont, I believe this is incorrect, there are other fireWire interfaces
>>>> that are chain-able.
>>>>
>>
>> RME Fireface for one - it has a second FW400 port for running multiple units
>> in parallel (FW800 connection to the PC/Mac side required).
>>
>> From the ad blurbs it says the dsp is available in Cubase - which could
> be
>> simply like other firewire dsp boxes (Powercore, Duende, etc) that give
> you
>> VST access to onboard dsp plugins. That part could be tied to Cubase, but
>> though it doesn't say so, so my guess is the dsp is most likely VST, and
> the
>> audio is ASIO, so any VST/ASIO app should be able to use it.
>>
>> I wouldn't go by a product demonstration as the final word. Wait until
> the
>> units hit the streets and/or more info shows up on it.
>>
>> I also wouldn't sell your PCI/PCIe gear for a firewire solution... DJ.
> ;-)
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>Yup, he was playing through some cheap little Fisher Price looking amp, it
made a pignose look like a Marshall.
TCB
"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>was that humbucker really wired in?
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47dbcb9e$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I was walking from the Asok skytrain station to the subway yesterday and
>> heard some really interesting music. It was two guys from Issan (one of
>> the
>> poorer areas of a generally very poor country) playing music. One was
on
>> some makeshift drums (still, he had a cowbell!) and this is the other
guy.
>> Check out the guitar-like instrument, which is basically a board, a
>> pickup,
>> and three strings with some frets placed in places them very odd to our
>> well-tempered
>> selves.
>>
>> He could really flippin play as well. I dropped 50 baht into their tip
jar
>> and recorded about five minutes of music.
>>
>> TCB
>
>I think they were fretwire but I didn't look closely enough. It was a pretty
busy street and I couldn't stay long, but I think the frets were actually
frets.
TCB
"Rich Lamanna" <
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| Re: Ron Paul is the greatest ! [message #94550 is a reply to message #94542] |
Thu, 10 January 2008 08:37 |
Deej
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D and play. rest in peace Dread and big respect. you will be
>missed.
>
>respect
>Nappy
>
>"CUjo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>>
>>I jut posted this over at GS:
>>
>>I have some sad news to announce, after a long illness Mikey Dread passed
>>away this past Saturday.
>>
>>This is from his myspace page:
>>
>>MySpace.com - Mikey Dread - - Reggae / Dub - www.myspace.com/datc
>>For Immediate Release:
>>
>>Monday, March 17, 2008
>>
>>This is an Official News Release from the “Dread At The Controls, Inc."
>
>>
>>MIKEY DREAD PASSED AWAY Michael Campbell (aka “Mikey Dread) our beloved
>husband,
>>father, brother, uncle and friend passed away on Saturday, March 15, 2008
>>with his wife and family by his side. For those who would like to join
us
>>in remembering the wonderful memories of Mikey Dread, you can call or write
>>to:
>>
>>Monika Campbell,
>>99 Lawn Avenue
>>Stamford, CT 06902
>>Tel: 203-353-1448
>>
>>Collaborating with him once on a Clash cover really meant a lot to me.
Sadly
>>I did not get to know him very well, but really enjoyed meeting him and
>watching
>>him perform live. God Bless
>>__________________
>>The Blizzard of 78
>>Killing Floor Records
>>
>>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/17/abba.drummer /?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
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>Hey Nappy, can you post the tune?
>
>
>"Nappy" <juggler9@rock.com> wrote:
>>
>>Cujo,
>>Thanks for posting this,I too had a chance to work with Mikey Dread in
the
>>late nineties just before I got PARIS. The project was mixed by Scientist.
>>i'm going to
>>dig up the CD and play. rest in peace Dread and big respect. you will be
>>missed.
>>
>>respect
>>Nappy
>>
>>"CUjo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I jut posted this over at GS:
>>>
>>>I have some sad news to announce, after a long illness Mikey Dread passed
>>>away this past Saturday.
>>>
>>>This is from his myspace page:
>>>
>>>MySpace.com - Mikey Dread - - Reggae / Dub - www.myspace.com/datc
>>>For Immediate Release:
>>>
>>>Monday, March 17, 2008
>>>
>>>This is an Official News Release from the “Dread At The Controls, Inc."
>>
>>>
>>>MIKEY DREAD PASSED AWAY Michael Campbell (aka “Mikey Dread) our beloved
>>
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| Re: Ron Paul is the greatest ! [message #94582 is a reply to message #94550] |
Thu, 10 January 2008 17:56 |
Sarah
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---=_linux47e01ad2--All,
Please be aware that MS has shipped a known bug in Vista SP1 that renders
the Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) subsystem useless. At some point in the
future, MS will issue a Hot Fix to correct the problem.
So, if you're using a camera, scanner, or other input device that uses a
WIA driver, the device will no longer function after installing SP1.
Other than that, SP1 fixes many USB printing and scanning issues (but, unfortunately,
breaks WIA).
Hope this helps!
Mark
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080318/D8VG01GG0.html"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:47e002d4$1@linux...
>
> Incredibly ignorant, naive, and delusional, where did you buy this pile of
> propaganda?
>
James, are you just talking as a believer or are you knowing some other,
real facts of the story Bill is talking about?
ErlingMark,
THanks for the update...After reading the articles on it, I think it's
still best to steer my business customers to XP.
How have you been?
Jeff Hoover
McDermott wrote:
> All,
>
> Please be aware that MS has shipped a known bug in Vista SP1 that renders
> the Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) subsystem useless. At some point in the
> future, MS will issue a Hot Fix to correct the problem.
>
> So, if you're using a camera, scanner, or other input device that uses a
> WIA driver, the device will no longer function after installing SP1.
>
> Other than that, SP1 fixes many USB printing and scanning issues (but, unfortunately,
> breaks WIA).
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Mark
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080318/D8VG01GG0.html
>
>I just have one question for you both.
What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
telling"?
What would happen to Scientology?
If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
life.
DC
What would happen to faith as mere human
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>others. All people are basically good.
>erlilo wrote:
Most of the difference and
>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a culture
>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
the
>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all the
wars
>> following up, long before someone could write at all.One might ask the same question, and substitute the name Gilgamesh in place
of Jesus. What if it were proven that Gilgamesh indeed pre-existed Jesus and
the Bible and that those stories handed down were recycled tales of
Gilgamesh? How would that shake your own belief system (I'm not saying one
way or the other) and what would you do with it?
AA
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47e05997$1@linux...
>
> I just have one question for you both.
>
> What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
> the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
> evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
> pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
> and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
> yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
>
> What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
> telling"?
>
> What would happen to Scientology?
>
> If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
> then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
> perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
> life.
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
> What would happen to faith as mere human
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>>understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>>others. All people are basically good.
>
>
>>erlilo wrote:
> Most of the difference and
>>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a
>>> culture
>
>>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
> the
>>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>
>>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all the
> wars
>>> following up, long before someone could write at all.
>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you get
the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running 2 MECs
and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
SteveIf this is all your Paris inventory, then you can't get 24 channels of
i/o. At best, you get 12 = 4 analog and 2 s/pdif per mec.
Options?
Get a 3rd mec and 3 of the if/2 boxes. That'll give you 8 channels per
mec. Of course, that assumes you have a way to get your frontend
signals to 6 s/pdif channels.
If you have something that can convert to adat, then you can get some
adat cards.
Otherwise, you are basically looking at finding 2 of the 8-in cards.
Setting up the patch bay is pretty standard once you get the add-in
cards installed. Paris should recognize them and you just connect to
the mixer.
Monitoring of the secondary cards is automatic thru the primary card.
No need to patch cards B and C to A.
Good luck.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 18 Mar 2008 14:35:41 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
wrote:
>
>I am assuming I need to run 2 mecs. I do have 2 Mecs, 3 EDS 1000 cards and
>am running a G4 Mac. How do I set this up and also configure in the patch
>bay and anywhere else I need to.
>Thanks,
>SteveInsn't that called the Client Number Nine?
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:52:23 -0400, "alex plasko"
<alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>They don't teach this in schools very much, so you might be excused for
not knowing about it, but here are some references:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ghettos_in_Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_persecution
excerpts from this article
During the Middle Ages in Europe there was full-scale persecution in
many places, with blood libels, expulsions, forced conversions and
massacres. A main justification of prejudice against Jews in Europe was
religious. Jews were frequently massacred and exiled from various
European countries. The persecution hit its first peak during the
Crusades. In the First Crusade (1096) flourishing communities on the
Rhine and the Danube were utterly destroyed; see German Crusade, 1096.
In the Second Crusade (1147) the Jews in France were subject to frequent
massacres. The Jews were also subjected to attacks by the Shepherds'
Crusades of 1251 and 1320. The Crusades were followed by expulsions,
including in, 1290, the banishing of all English Jews; in 1396, 100,000
Jews were expelled from France; and, in 1421 thousands were expelled
from Austria. Many of the expelled Jews fled to Poland.[2]
Tsarist Russia
For much of the 19th century, Imperial Russia, which included much of
Poland, contained the world's largest Jewish population. From Alexander
III's reign until the end of Tsarist rule in Russia, Jews were
restricted to the Jewish Pale of Settlement, and banned from many jobs
and locations. They were subject to racist laws, like the May Laws, and
were targeted in hundreds of violent anti-Jewish riots, called pogroms,
that had unofficial state support.
James McCloskey wrote:
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> The Jewish conspiracy thing was a justification created in Europe as far
>
>> back as the Crusades to avoid paying debts to Jews. It's a brilliant
>> plan, really:
>>
>> 1. Forbid Jews living anywhere but the ghetto, for convenience in
>> locating them
>> 2. Forbid Jews doing anything but money lending, banking, gold/silver
>> smithing, etc.
>> 3. When you owe too much money to a Jew, kill him.
>> 4. If anyone complains about you killing him, say, "Everyone knows the
>> Jews have horns and eat Christian babies."
>> 5. Walk away scott and debt free!
>>
>> During the Crusades, it was common practice for a German army heading
>> off to Jerusalem to make a swing through the ghetto and erase all their
>
>> debts (kill their bankers) before the long march to reclaim the "Holy Land".
>>
>
> Incredibly ignorant, naive, and delusional, where did you buy this pile of
> propaganda?
>
>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>> Erling,
>>>
>>> Bill made some great points, but along with those ...
>>>
>>> Beware of those who speculate that the arms race and the money behind
> it
>>> is a vast jewish conspiracy.
>>>
>>> Beware of those who postulate that the first banker to loan someone the
> money
>>> for a bomb was a jew.
>>>
>>> Be on guard against those who espouse that jew x or jewish race Y is responsible
>>> for Z. In my experience people who raise these issues are morally bankrupt.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> Erling, When you talk about Americans, remember that the small number
>
>>>> who made money from WW2 are not the same ones who laid down their lives
>>>> or gave their time or sweat to save our European brothers and sisters.
>>>>
>>>> Bankers and arms manufacturers are the ones who really win in a war.
>
>>>> It's been that way since the very first banker loaned a war lord or king
>>>> money to finance a war, probably thousands of years ago. Part of the
>
>>>> money they get back and part they take out in influence. Remember the
>
>>>> hundred years war in Europe. That was a field day for the bankers. They
>>>> gained enormous influnce from that - so much so that they managed to
>
>>>> keep the war going for a HUNDRED years, loaning money to all sides.
>>>>
>>>> Please do not make the mistake of seeing all Americans as a great big
>
>>>> generality. Yes, we elect some really, really crappy presidents and
>>>> other leaders. My guess is it's about a 4:1 ratio of bad to good. But
>
>>>> bear in mind we are heavily influenced by the lying PR spread by the
>
>>>> same bankers who make money from the dumbass shit that 4 out of 5
>>>> presidents do at the bankers bidding.
>>>>
>>>> For those with an interest in this sort of thing there is a fine and
>
>>>> extremely enlightening book called "The Warlords" that details the
>>>> influence bankers have had for many centuries in fomenting man's wars.
>>>>
>>>> erlilo wrote:
>>>>> James, if it wasn't for Pearl Harbour, Americans had only made money
> on
>>> both
>>>>> parts in the last worldwar, like president Bush's granddad did really
>>> well
>>>>> under that war. Isn't it time to learn some real history about how America
>>>>> was being involved in both the first and second worldwar, years after
>>> they
>>>>> really started? I wrote about these historical facts here some years
> ago,
>>> in
>>>>> the days when Iraq was being occupied, so if you're interested, you
> can
>>> try
>>>>> to find the posts from those days, or you can find it some other places,
>>>>> like the internet, that I know you love to search after meanings you
> can
>>>>> follow. It's unbelieveable that many Americans yet don't know a shit
> about
>>>>> historical facts and still yelling about the glory they got around their
>>>>> heads after the two worldwars and still love to have these glories today,
>>>>> after all the shit some of their presidents have made in newer times
> around
>>>>> the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:47de8d9b$1@linux...
>>>>>> Hey erlilo, if it wasn't for Americans coming across the ocean and
>
>>>>>> standing
>>>>>> up to tyranny you'd be speaking Deutsche right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Is there any difference when a neighbour nation occupying Tibet or
> a
>>>>>>> nation
>>>>>>> travel over the whole Pasific Ocean, occupying Iraq?
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>>> news:47dd6e18@linux...
>>>>>>>> I think it's time to boycott China and their products, there is no
>>> sense
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> supporting this government in any way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VELU0G0.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VEM3KG0.html
>Whoah! Where did that come from? Did we say something about Jesus?
DC wrote:
> I just have one question for you both.
>
> What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
> the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
> evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
> pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
> and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
> yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
>
> What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
> telling"?
>
> What would happen to Scientology?
>
> If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
> then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
> perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
> life.
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
> What would happen to faith as mere human
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>> understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>> others. All people are basically good.
>
>
>> erlilo wrote:
> Most of the difference and
>>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a culture
>
>>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
> the
>>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>
>>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all the
> wars
>>> following up, long before someone could write at all.
>Paul,
I have no idea what you ar talking about. In the first case "at best" With
only one MEC, I am already running 16 inputs and have been for years.
What I am trying to do however is get a minimum of 24 simutanious recording
tracks.
My inventory in total is 3 MECs, 5 EDS1000s, 3 control 16s,3-8 channel input
cards,2 adat litepipe cards,5 G4s, 4 flat panel monitors.
However, all i should need to pull this off is 1 Mac G4 with 3 EDS 1000 cards
in it, 2 MECs-one on EDS card-1 and the other on EDS card 3. In one MEC I
have 2 - 8 channel input cards, and in the other MEC I have a single 8-channel
input card.
Am I correct so far? Now I just ned to know how to configure it and be able
to see both mixers on the screen and be able to record 24 analog inputs at
the same time. I am not interested in running litepipe for this gig.
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>If this is all your Paris inventory, then you can't get 24 channels of
>i/o. At best, you get 12 = 4 analog and 2 s/pdif per mec.
>
>Options?
>
>Get a 3rd mec and 3 of the if/2 boxes. That'll give you 8 channels per
>mec. Of course, that assumes you have a way to get your frontend
>signals to 6 s/pdif channels.
>
>If you have something that can convert to adat, then you can get some
>adat cards.
>
>Otherwise, you are basically looking at finding 2 of the 8-in cards.
>
>Setting up the patch bay is pretty standard once you get the add-in
>cards installed. Paris should recognize them and you just connect to
>the mixer.
>
>Monitoring of the secondary cards is automatic thru the primary card.
>No need to patch cards B and C to A.
>
>Good luck.
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>
>On 18 Mar 2008 14:35:41 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I am assuming I need to run 2 mecs. I do have 2 Mecs, 3 EDS 1000 cards
and
>>am running a G4 Mac. How do I set this up and also configure in the patch
>>bay and anywhere else I need to.
>>Thanks,
>>Steve
>That would be significant.
The evidence is not of the same quality or quantity however.
DC
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>One might ask the same question, and substitute the name Gilgamesh in place
>of Jesus. What if it were proven that Gilgamesh indeed pre-existed Jesus
and
>the Bible and that those stories handed down were recycled tales of
>Gilgamesh? How would that shake your own belief system (I'm not saying one
>way or the other) and what would you do with it?
>
>AA
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:47e05997$1@linux...
>>
>> I just have one question for you both.
>>
>> What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
>> the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
>> evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
>> pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
>> and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
>> yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
>>
>> What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
>> telling"?
>>
>> What would happen to Scientology?
>>
>> If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
>> then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
>> perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
>> life.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What would happen to faith as mere human
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>>>understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>>>others. All people are basically good.
>>
>>
>>>erlilo wrote:
>> Most of the difference and
>>>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a
>>>> culture
>>
>>>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
>> the
>>>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>>
>>>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all
the
>> wars
>>>> following up, long before someone could write at all.
>>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03 /18/AR2008031802346.html?hpid=moreheadlines
This kind of sucks...
A major mind and writer.
DCHmmm, I was not refering to Jesus at all, just refering to "the start" of
our own religion. For me, it seems you're just coming with questions that's
giving more questions about believings. You are referring to the Bible when
referring to Jesus, but don't forget, the bible have an old part too, that
have nothing to do with Jesus's way of living.
I can take a parallel to the New Testament, a modern Jesus, that died in
1948, Mahatma Gandhi and his life in India. Many parallels to the New
Testamente in a modern way, when the British ruled India before they
splitted it up in two new states in 1947. http://www.mkgandhi.org/
Pretty much the same philosophy and story, just happened in "modern" times,
where most of the stories about Gandhi can be confirmed as real; where the
bible, for me, are about real truth and believings that can't be confirmed,
just because these old stories just started from mouth to mouth, long before
something could be written down at all.
I'm a believer too but not for every price.
Erling
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:47e05997$1@linux...
>
> I just have one question for you both.
>
> What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
> the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
> evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
> pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
> and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
> yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
>
> What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
> telling"?
>
> What would happen to Scientology?
>
> If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
> then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
> perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
> life.
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
> What would happen to faith as mere human
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>>understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>>others. All people are basically good.
>
>
>>erlilo wrote:
> Most of the difference and
>>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a
>>> culture
>
>>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
> the
>>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>
>>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all the
> wars
>>> following up, long before someone could write at all.
>Greenwich Country Day! How posh of you, Bill! A former and future ex-girlfriend
of mine is from a family that made a gazillion dollars selling off small
chunks of land in Greenwich. They bought a large farm in the 1850's and have
been living off of it ever since. Sometimes being lucky is as good or better
than being smart.
It takes real genius and effort to make American history boring, but American
schools somehow manage to do it.
TCB
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I went to the same school as George Bush Sr, Greenwich Country Day
>School, from pre-K to 9th grade, and I don't remember any American
>history at all, actually. I suppose there must have been some, but it
>was pretty dull, I guess.
>
>It seemed like all we got was English history. New Englanders are rather
>Anglophilic.
>
>TCB wrote:
>> In fairness to my fellow Americans, what you say is true but it's damned
difficult
>> to learn any US history in America. The tiny bit that is taught before
college
>> is taught horribly, and is about the driest subject one ever takes. Which
>> is sad since US history is so full of robber barons and wildcatters and
other
>> incredibly interesting people. But if a person wants to find out the good,
>> bad, and ugly of US history in America one pretty much has to go it alone.
>>
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>> James, if it wasn't for Pearl Harbour, Americans had only made money
on
>> both
>>> parts in the last worldwar, like president Bush's granddad did really
well
>>
>>> under that war. Isn't it time to learn some real history about how America
>>
>>> was being involved in both the first and second worldwar, years after
they
>>
>>> really started? I wrote about these historical facts here some years
ago,
>> in
>>> the days when Iraq was being occupied, so if you're interested, you can
>> try
>>> to find the posts from those days, or you can find it some other places,
>>
>>> like the internet, that I know you love to search after meanings you
can
>>
>>> follow. It's unbelieveable that many Americans yet don't know a shit
about
>>
>>> historical facts and still yelling about the glory they got around their
>>
>>> heads after the two worldwars and still love to have these glories today,
>>
>>> after all the shit some of their presidents have made in newer times
around
>>
>>> the world.
>>>
>>> Erling
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:47de8d9b$1@linux...
>>>> Hey erlilo, if it wasn't for Americans coming across the ocean and
>>>> standing
>>>> up to tyranny you'd be speaking Deutsche right now.
>>>>
>>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>> Is there any difference when a neighbour nation occupying Tibet or
a
>>>>> nation
>>>>> travel over the whole Pasific Ocean, occupying Iraq?
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>> news:47dd6e18@linux...
>>>>>> I think it's time to boycott China and their products, there is no
sense
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> supporting this government in any way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VELU0G0.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VEM3KG0.html
>>>>>
>>>
>>On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
wrote:
>
>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you get
>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running 2 MECs
>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>Steve
assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec by
clicking on it in the project window.yet more proof of the moral decay in the enamel of america. one can
only hope to take a bite out of this fall from "good" thinking...and
it's the only time i'm glad i'm not the pole in the picture.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:00:39 -0400, "alex plasko"
<alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>once again...i don't get it. the irs doesn't use pencils...sheesh.
kind of obsessed with "wood" aren't ya.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:52:23 -0400, "alex plasko"
<alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>apparently with friends...then again that could be the new guv
according to the stories being told.
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:55:18 -0500, Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Insn't that called the Client Number Nine?
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:52:23 -0400, "alex plasko"
><alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>
>>finally the answer to the question i've always asked from childhood
on...how do penguins fish. thanks.
On 19 Mar 2008 06:41:07 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>You can also toggle between submixes using the C16...hold down the submix
button then hit 1 or 2...then when you hit M, the active submix mixer window
will pop up
I also use the task bar (in windows) to click on the mixer I want to view
Make sense?
Don
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e4l1u3dpcaeopd1vq28pafgb9jh741stb2@4ax.com...
> On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you get
>>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running 2 MECs
>>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>>Steve
>
> assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec by
> clicking on it in the project window.
>"Make sense"? Not the windows thing, because I am on a Mac, but the submix
button did. I just gotta make sure that I can record and view 24 simultanious
tracks.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>You can also toggle between submixes using the C16...hold down the submix
>button then hit 1 or 2...then when you hit M, the active submix mixer window
>will pop up
>
>I also use the task bar (in windows) to click on the mixer I want to view
>
>Make sense?
>
>Don
>
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:e4l1u3dpcaeopd1vq28pafgb9jh741stb2@4ax.com...
>> On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you
get
>>>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running 2 MECs
>>>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>>>Steve
>>
>> assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec by
>> clicking on it in the project window.
>>
>
>Whoa, Nelly!
In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
Paris mixer window?
I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
problem changing the size of the mixer window?
In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
- Paul
On 19 Mar 2008 14:35:12 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
wrote:
>
>Paul,
>I have no idea what you ar talking about. In the first case "at best" With
>only one MEC, I am already running 16 inputs and have been for years.
>What I am trying to do however is get a minimum of 24 simutanious recording
>tracks.
>My inventory in total is 3 MECs, 5 EDS1000s, 3 control 16s,3-8 channel input
>cards,2 adat litepipe cards,5 G4s, 4 flat panel monitors.
>However, all i should need to pull this off is 1 Mac G4 with 3 EDS 1000 cards
>in it, 2 MECs-one on EDS card-1 and the other on EDS card 3. In one MEC I
>have 2 - 8 channel input cards, and in the other MEC I have a single 8-channel
>input card.
>Am I correct so far? Now I just ned to know how to configure it and be able
>to see both mixers on the screen and be able to record 24 analog inputs at
>the same time. I am not interested in running litepipe for this gig.
>
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>If this is all your Paris inventory, then you can't get 24 channels of
>>i/o. At best, you get 12 = 4 analog and 2 s/pdif per mec.
>>
>>Options?
>>
>>Get a 3rd mec and 3 of the if/2 boxes. That'll give you 8 channels per
>>mec. Of course, that assumes you have a way to get your frontend
>>signals to 6 s/pdif channels.
>>
>>If you have something that can convert to adat, then you can get some
>>adat cards.
>>
>>Otherwise, you are basically looking at finding 2 of the 8-in cards.
>>
>>Setting up the patch bay is pretty standard once you get the add-in
>>cards installed. Paris should recognize them and you just connect to
>>the mixer.
>>
>>Monitoring of the secondary cards is automatic thru the primary card.
>>No need to patch cards B and C to A.
>>
>>Good luck.
>>
>>- Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>
>>On 18 Mar 2008 14:35:41 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I am assuming I need to run 2 mecs. I do have 2 Mecs, 3 EDS 1000 cards
>and
>>>am running a G4 Mac. How do I set this up and also configure in the patch
>>>bay and anywhere else I need to.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Steve
>>This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They also
say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
http://www.merging.com/Yeah, I went to school with Rockefellers and Warburgs. Funny, when
you're a kid money doesn't mean anything to you. Lucy Rockefeller was
just a shy fat girl and Phil Warburg (the only Jew in the school) was a
brainy nerd who sucked at sports. He probably runs the New York Federal
Reserve Bank today. I should have made better friends with him - who knew?
Where was your former/future ex-girlfriend's farm? What street? I lived
kind of in the country, between Greenwich and Bedford, NY.
TCB wrote:
> Greenwich Country Day! How posh of you, Bill! A former and future ex-girlfriend
> of mine is from a family that made a gazillion dollars selling off small
> chunks of land in Greenwich. They bought a large farm in the 1850's and have
> been living off of it ever since. Sometimes being lucky is as good or better
> than being smart.
>
> It takes real genius and effort to make American history boring, but American
> schools somehow manage to do it.
>
> TCB
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> I went to the same school as George Bush Sr, Greenwich Country Day
>> School, from pre-K to 9th grade, and I don't remember any American
>> history at all, actually. I suppose there must have been some, but it
>> was pretty dull, I guess.
>>
>> It seemed like all we got was English history. New Englanders are rather
>
>> Anglophilic.
>>
>> TCB wrote:
>>> In fairness to my fellow Americans, what you say is true but it's damned
> difficult
>>> to learn any US history in America. The tiny bit that is taught before
> college
>>> is taught horribly, and is about the driest subject one ever takes. Which
>>> is sad since US history is so full of robber barons and wildcatters and
> other
>>> incredibly interesting people. But if a person wants to find out the good,
>>> bad, and ugly of US history in America one pretty much has to go it alone.
>>>
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>> James, if it wasn't for Pearl Harbour, Americans had only made money
> on
>>> both
>>>> parts in the last worldwar, like president Bush's granddad did really
> well
>>>> under that war. Isn't it time to learn some real history about how America
>>>> was being involved in both the first and second worldwar, years after
> they
>>>> really started? I wrote about these historical facts here some years
> ago,
>>> in
>>>> the days when Iraq was being occupied, so if you're interested, you can
>>> try
>>>> to find the posts from those days, or you can find it some other places,
>>>> like the internet, that I know you love to search after meanings you
> can
>>>> follow. It's unbelieveable that many Americans yet don't know a shit
> about
>>>> historical facts and still yelling about the glory they got around their
>>>> heads after the two worldwars and still love to have these glories today,
>>>> after all the shit some of their presidents have made in newer times
> around
>>>> the world.
>>>>
>>>> Erling
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>> news:47de8d9b$1@linux...
>>>>> Hey erlilo, if it wasn't for Americans coming across the ocean and
>>>>> standing
>>>>> up to tyranny you'd be speaking Deutsche right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>>> Is there any difference when a neighbour nation occupying Tibet or
> a
>>>>>> nation
>>>>>> travel over the whole Pasific Ocean, occupying Iraq?
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>> news:47dd6e18@linux...
>>>>>>> I think it's time to boycott China and their products, there is no
> sense
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> supporting this government in any way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VELU0G0.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080316/D8VEM3KG0.html
>By the way, belief or non-belief in Jesus has absolutely nothing to do
with Scientology. Scientology is not "faith-based". It is entirely
empirically derived and the technologies of Scientology are experienced
daily by Scientologists. Hubbard was trained as an engineer and he
insisted that his technology be as workable and repeatable as e.g. the
formula for building a bridge.
Many Christians, Jews, what have you are also Scientologists - but
saner, happier ones. Hubbard wrote, "What is true for you is what is
true for you."
DC wrote:
> I just have one question for you both.
>
> What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
> the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
> evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
> pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
> and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
> yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
>
> What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
> telling"?
>
> What would happen to Scientology?
>
> If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
> then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
> perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
> life.
>
> DC
>
>
>
>
> What would happen to faith as mere human
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>> understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>> others. All people are basically good.
>
>
>> erlilo wrote:
> Most of the difference and
>>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a culture
>
>>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
> the
>>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>
>>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all the
> wars
>>> following up, long before someone could write at all.
>Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen, you
get there by hitting B.
Rod
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Whoa, Nelly!
>
>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>Paris mixer window?
>
>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>
>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>
>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>
>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>
>- Pauli would then pull up the mini mixer views...doesn't have all the other
stuff visible.
On 19 Mar 2008 23:39:17 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
wrote:
>
>"Make sense"? Not the windows thing, because I am on a Mac, but the submix
>button did. I just gotta make sure that I can record and view 24 simultanious
>tracks.
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>You can also toggle between submixes using the C16...hold down the submix
>
>>button then hit 1 or 2...then when you hit M, the active submix mixer window
>
>>will pop up
>>
>>I also use the task bar (in windows) to click on the mixer I want to view
>>
>>Make sense?
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:e4l1u3dpcaeopd1vq28pafgb9jh741stb2@4ax.com...
>>> On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you
>get
>>>>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running 2 MECs
>>>>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>>>>Steve
>>>
>>> assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec by
>>> clicking on it in the project window.
>>>
>>
>>Could I get your current e-mail address?
SteveRight you are, Rod. The Patchbay screen is what I meant. Thanks for
catching that.
- Paul
On 20 Mar 2008 00:30:57 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
<rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
>I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen, you
>get there by hitting B.
>Rod
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Whoa, Nelly!
>>
>>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>>Paris mixer window?
>>
>>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
>>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>>
>>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>>
>>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>>
>>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>>
>>- Pauljust remove the "nospam."
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>Could I get your current e-mail address?
>SteveWhat's the pricing on this and Ramses?
On 3/19/08 6:50 AM, in article 47e10f02@linux, "Bill L"
<bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
> This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
> processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They also
> say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
> available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>
> http://www.merging.com/But, (and I am speaking to you and Erling here), both the
"myth making" view of faith and the opinions of Hubbard (and
many others) about human nature became moot if the evidence for
Jesus is compelling.
DC
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>By the way, belief or non-belief in Jesus has absolutely nothing to do
>with Scientology. Scientology is not "faith-based". It is entirely
>empirically derived and the technologies of Scientology are experienced
>daily by Scientologists. Hubbard was trained as an engineer and he
>insisted that his technology be as workable and repeatable as e.g. the
>formula for building a bridge.
>
>Many Christians, Jews, what have you are also Scientologists - but
>saner, happier ones. Hubbard wrote, "What is true for you is what is
>true for you."
>
>DC wrote:
>> I just have one question for you both.
>>
>> What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
>> the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
>> evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
>> pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
>> and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
>> yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
>>
>> What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
>> telling"?
>>
>> What would happen to Scientology?
>>
>> If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
>> then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
>> perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
>> life.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What would happen to faith as mere human
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>>> understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>>> others. All people are basically good.
>>
>>
>>> erlilo wrote:
>> Most of the difference and
>>>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a
culture
>>
>>>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
>> the
>>>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>>
>>>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all
the
>> wars
>>>> following up, long before someone could write at all.
>>Yeah, besides, I heard it was 72 VIRGINIANS!
DC
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>finally the answer to the question i've always asked from childhood
>on...how do penguins fish. thanks.
>
>
>
>On 19 Mar 2008 06:41:07 +1000, "James McCloskey"
><excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>And it is in that patchbay that I already am running 16 inputs.
Rod, I have tried to contact you and some others by way of e-mail and get
"undeliverable"
One thing that is not helping me here and is why I am trying to e-mail some
of you is because I am extremely dyslexic. Typing these posts take me sometimes
3-5 minutes for what takes anyone else 20 seconds. It's appears to me scrambled
and upside down at times. Watching me write out a check is halarious! But
not to me. Sooooo anyhow I really wish I could talk to someone on the phone
and would have this licked in minutes. Then I could quit pestering you guys.
Please attempt to e-mail me and hopefully I can call one of you who are running
2 MECs.
Blessings,
Steve
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Right you are, Rod. The Patchbay screen is what I meant. Thanks for
>catching that.
>
>- Paul
>
>On 20 Mar 2008 00:30:57 +1000, "Rod Lincoln"
><rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Paul is correct, but I'd use the three 8 ins if you have them.
>>I think Paul means the patchbay screen, instead of the mixer screen, you
>>get there by hitting B.
>>Rod
>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>Whoa, Nelly!
>>>
>>>In your original post, you didn't mention having adat and 8-in cards,
>>>so your real question is how to get all the hardware to appear in the
>>>Paris mixer window?
>>>
>>>I am a PC user, not a Mac guy, so for me, I have found that using any
>>>more than 1 mec worth of i/o requires enlarging the mixer window to
>>>about full-screen size. Then I can lay out all the components and
>>>spread them out so the traces are clearly delineated. Are you having a
>>>problem changing the size of the mixer window?
>>>
>>>In the mixer window, all the Paris inventory shows up in the list on
>>>the righthand side. You may have to scroll down to see everything, but
>>>if it all is hooked up right, it should be listed.
>>>
>>>Check out the Paris Reference Manual, Chapter 4, starting on page 31
>>>(or page 61 of the acrobat softcopy).
>>>
>>>You are correct about putting 2 of the 8-input cards in 1 mec and the
>>>other in the second mec. Actually, to get 24-input, you only need one
>>>8-input card in each mec since you have the 4-inputs of the mec
>>>already available. In other words, you have 12-inputs per mec/eds.
>>>
>>>- Paul
>Steve.
If you are running two EDS's, do yourself a favour and get a
second monitor for your rig. (the bigger the better..)
A 22" widescreen will do nicely, as you can see all 16 channels
of the submix, plus a few aux's, without scrolling.
Or pick up a 19" CRT (often found
on the kerb these days..) and run it at 1600x1200.
Kim
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Make sense"? Not the windows thing, because I am on a Mac, but the submix
>button did. I just gotta make sure that I can record and view 24 simultanious
>tracks.
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>You can also toggle between submixes using the C16...hold down the submix
>
>>button then hit 1 or 2...then when you hit M, the active submix mixer window
>
>>will pop up
>>
>>I also use the task bar (in windows) to click on the mixer I want to view
>>
>>Make sense?
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:e4l1u3dpcaeopd1vq28pafgb9jh741stb2@4ax.com...
>>> On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you
>get
>>>>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running 2
MECs
>>>>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>>>>Steve
>>>
>>> assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec by
>>> clicking on it in the project window.
>>>
>>
>>
>Can't run 2 monitors. All the slots are taken up w/EDS cards, but I do have
a 19" and visual is good. Moreso need the configuration correct.
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Steve.
>If you are running two EDS's, do yourself a favour and get a
>second monitor for your rig. (the bigger the better..)
>A 22" widescreen will do nicely, as you can see all 16 channels
>of the submix, plus a few aux's, without scrolling.
>Or pick up a 19" CRT (often found
>on the kerb these days..) and run it at 1600x1200.
>
>Kim
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>"Make sense"? Not the windows thing, because I am on a Mac, but the submix
>>button did. I just gotta make sure that I can record and view 24 simultanious
>>tracks.
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>You can also toggle between submixes using the C16...hold down the submix
>>
>>>button then hit 1 or 2...then when you hit M, the active submix mixer
window
>>
>>>will pop up
>>>
>>>I also use the task bar (in windows) to click on the mixer I want to view
>>>
>>>Make sense?
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:e4l1u3dpcaeopd1vq28pafgb9jh741stb2@4ax.com...
>>>> On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you
>>get
>>>>>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running 2
>MECs
>>>>>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>> assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec
by
>>>> clicking on it in the project window.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>So many issues. This is becoming overwhelming.
Configuration for 2 MECs, Virtual EDS card, none of the inputs working.
Maaaan, need to talk to someone.......
SteveI'm not familiar with macs, but any recent low rent graphics
card has two outputs. Can't you swap the existing card with
one of these?
If not, your only option is to toggle between mixers by bringing
up the project window, (press "p"), and click on the "M" button
corresponding to the submix you wish to view.
Unfortunately the Paris windows are fixed in size, due to the
fact that they are "hand drawn" bitmaps. You cannot shrink
them in size like you can with most other applications,
you can only increase screen resolution to allow more info to
be displayed.
Therefore, I cannot see how you can view 24 channels on one
monitor unless you use the Mini Mixer, as suggested by another
poster.
Kim
The only solution is to increase your desktop size, or reduce the
number of visible channels in each submix if you wish to see more
than one submix.
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>Can't run 2 monitors. All the slots are taken up w/EDS cards, but I do have
>a 19" and visual is good. Moreso need the configuration correct.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Steve.
>>If you are running two EDS's, do yourself a favour and get a
>>second monitor for your rig. (the bigger the better..)
>>A 22" widescreen will do nicely, as you can see all 16 channels
>>of the submix, plus a few aux's, without scrolling.
>>Or pick up a 19" CRT (often found
>>on the kerb these days..) and run it at 1600x1200.
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Make sense"? Not the windows thing, because I am on a Mac, but the submix
>>>button did. I just gotta make sure that I can record and view 24 simultanious
>>>tracks.
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>You can also toggle between submixes using the C16...hold down the submix
>>>
>>>>button then hit 1 or 2...then when you hit M, the active submix mixer
>window
>>>
>>>>will pop up
>>>>
>>>>I also use the task bar (in windows) to click on the mixer I want to
view
>>>>
>>>>Make sense?
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:e4l1u3dpcaeopd1vq28pafgb9jh741stb2@4ax.com...
>>>>> On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M you
>>>get
>>>>>>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running
2
>>MECs
>>>>>>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec
>by
>>>>> clicking on it in the project window.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Nice..It seems that Pyramix is using SmartAV(Makers of that Starship Enterprise
looking Console Controllers) a few years back..
Nice setup indeed..
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
>processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They also
>say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
>available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>
>http://www.merging.com/No clue, but it probably ain't made in China, if you get my meaning.
Dedric Terry wrote:
> What's the pricing on this and Ramses?
>
> On 3/19/08 6:50 AM, in article 47e10f02@linux, "Bill L"
> <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>> This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
>> processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They also
>> say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
>> available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>>
>> http://www.merging.com/
>.....Having said that, you COULD concievably set up two mixer
views, one above the other, by minimising what is shown in each
submix.
I.E. get rid of the faders, aux sends, and/or inserts.
Set up a view that only shows what you need, and see if it will
fit on half the screen.
Then do the same for the second submix, and arrange the two, one above the
other.
Maybe I'm missing the point of your post, as I just jumped
into this thread without checking the last few days.
Good Luck
"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>I'm not familiar with macs, but any recent low rent graphics
>card has two outputs. Can't you swap the existing card with
>one of these?
>If not, your only option is to toggle between mixers by bringing
>up the project window, (press "p"), and click on the "M" button
>corresponding to the submix you wish to view.
>Unfortunately the Paris windows are fixed in size, due to the
>fact that they are "hand drawn" bitmaps. You cannot shrink
>them in size like you can with most other applications,
>you can only increase screen resolution to allow more info to
>be displayed.
>Therefore, I cannot see how you can view 24 channels on one
>monitor unless you use the Mini Mixer, as suggested by another
>poster.
>
>Kim
>
>The only solution is to increase your desktop size, or reduce the
>number of visible channels in each submix if you wish to see more
>than one submix.
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>Can't run 2 monitors. All the slots are taken up w/EDS cards, but I do
have
>>a 19" and visual is good. Moreso need the configuration correct.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Steve.
>>>If you are running two EDS's, do yourself a favour and get a
>>>second monitor for your rig. (the bigger the better..)
>>>A 22" widescreen will do nicely, as you can see all 16 channels
>>>of the submix, plus a few aux's, without scrolling.
>>>Or pick up a 19" CRT (often found
>>>on the kerb these days..) and run it at 1600x1200.
>>>
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Make sense"? Not the windows thing, because I am on a Mac, but the submix
>>>>button did. I just gotta make sure that I can record and view 24 simultanious
>>>>tracks.
>>>>
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>You can also toggle between submixes using the C16...hold down the submix
>>>>
>>>>>button then hit 1 or 2...then when you hit M, the active submix mixer
>>window
>>>>
>>>>>will pop up
>>>>>
>>>>>I also use the task bar (in windows) to click on the mixer I want to
>view
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sense?
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:e4l1u3dpcaeopd1vq28pafgb9jh741stb2@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On 19 Mar 2008 13:05:39 +1000, "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am still trying to configure this thing. If you hit apple and M
you
>>>>get
>>>>>>>the mixer. How will you be able to see both? Remember I am running
>2
>>>MECs
>>>>>>>and need to record on 24 tracks at the same time.
>>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> assuming it's the same on a mac as pc you can access the second mec
>>by
>>>>>> clicking on it in the project window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Did Jesus say all people are not basically good?
I agree with Hubbard: what's real for you is real for you. I think that
is as fair and true a statement as can be made. Make your own decisions
and keep your own counsel.
DC wrote:
> But, (and I am speaking to you and Erling here), both the
> "myth making" view of faith and the opinions of Hubbard (and
> many others) about human nature became moot if the evidence for
> Jesus is compelling.
>
>
>
> DC
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> By the way, belief or non-belief in Jesus has absolutely nothing to do
>> with Scientology. Scientology is not "faith-based". It is entirely
>> empirically derived and the technologies of Scientology are experienced
>
>> daily by Scientologists. Hubbard was trained as an engineer and he
>> insisted that his technology be as workable and repeatable as e.g. the
>> formula for building a bridge.
>>
>> Many Christians, Jews, what have you are also Scientologists - but
>> saner, happier ones. Hubbard wrote, "What is true for you is what is
>> true for you."
>>
>> DC wrote:
>>> I just have one question for you both.
>>>
>>> What would change in your beliefs if it could be shown that
>>> the real Jesus was the one of the Bible? That all the best
>>> evidence, when considered outside of philosophical
>>> pre-commitments, shows that Jesus was who he said he was,
>>> and the story of his origin, purpose, his life, death and
>>> yes his resurrection, as shown in the Bible, is pretty much spot-on?
>>>
>>> What would happen to "faith as human myth-making and story
>>> telling"?
>>>
>>> What would happen to Scientology?
>>>
>>> If it is true, would it not affect your beliefs profoundly? If so,
>>> then I would suggest resolving this issue is an important task;
>>> perhaps the most important of all the things we do in this
>>> life.
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What would happen to faith as mere human
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> All people are basically good and are trying to survive as they
>>>> understand it. With that starting point you can understand and help
>>>> others. All people are basically good.
>>>
>>>> erlilo wrote:
>>> Most of the difference and
>>>>> problems are in the HUMAN made religions that's for the most have a
> culture
>>>>> thousand of years back in the history. It's special to think it over,
>>> the
>>>>> bible was a product that's started our christian stories from the Middle
>>>>> East with stories about God and The Garden of Eden(in Iran) and all
> the
>>> wars
>>>>> following up, long before someone could write at all.
>Are you sure you're looking at MEC module B?
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:47e12eda$1@linux...
>
> So many issues. This is becoming overwhelming.
> Configuration for 2 MECs, Virtual EDS card, none of the inputs working.
> Maaaan, need to talk to someone.......
> SteveNot made in China? What's the audio world coming to.... :-)
Ramses starts at 25,000 euros - that would be about $35-40k US I'm guessing,
maybe $50k next week....
"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e13370$1@linux...
> No clue, but it probably ain't made in China, if you get my meaning.
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> What's the pricing on this and Ramses?
>>
>> On 3/19/08 6:50 AM, in article 47e10f02@linux, "Bill L"
>> <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
>>> processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They also
>>> say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
>>> available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>>>
>>> http://www.merging.com/
>>5 constructive minutes on the phone. I have been needing this done for years.
Man... I thank God for you guys.HI Dedric,
Depending on the unit from 35k to 60k depending on which base unit.
There are various options for the units also that range from 1500 to 8k.
We just started being dealers for them and Cedar so and I'm still
figuring out some of there setups.
The software and over all package seems more geared to broadcast and
mastering houses. They also do SACD authoring stuff. Probably not what
you would want for the composer music producer end of things. Pro Tools,
etc are more suited for that.
Chris
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Not made in China? What's the audio world coming to.... :-)
>
> Ramses starts at 25,000 euros - that would be about $35-40k US I'm
> guessing, maybe $50k next week....
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:47e13370$1@linux...
>> No clue, but it probably ain't made in China, if you get my meaning.
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> What's the pricing on this and Ramses?
>>>
>>> On 3/19/08 6:50 AM, in article 47e10f02@linux, "Bill L"
>>> <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
>>>> processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They
>>>> also
>>>> say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
>>>> available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.merging.com/
>>>
>
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Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comI was wondering what ever happened to these guys. They advertised huge track
counts with no latency in the past. I thought it was all vaporware.
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
>processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They also
>say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
>available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>
>http://www.merging.com/invoice is in the mail
D
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:47e142bd$1@linux...
>
> 5 constructive minutes on the phone. I have been needing this done for
> years.
> Man... I thank God for you guys.Chris Ludwig wrote:
> HI Dedric,
>
>
> Depending on the unit from 35k to 60k depending on which base unit.
> There are various options for the units also that range from 1500 to 8k.
> We just started being dealers for them and Cedar so and I'm still
> figuring out some of there setups.
> The software and over all package seems more geared to broadcast and
> mastering houses. They also do SACD authoring stuff. Probably not what
> you would want for the composer music producer end of things. Pro Tools,
> etc are more suited for that.
Unless you crave DSD.
>
>
> Chris
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Not made in China? What's the audio world coming to.... :-)
>>
>> Ramses starts at 25,000 euros - that would be about $35-40k US I'm
>> guessing, maybe $50k next week....
>>
>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>> news:47e13370$1@linux...
>>> No clue, but it probably ain't made in China, if you get my meaning.
>>>
>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>> What's the pricing on this and Ramses?
>>>>
>>>> On 3/19/08 6:50 AM, in article 47e10f02@linux, "Bill L"
>>>> <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
>>>>> processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They
>>>>> also
>>>>> say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
>>>>> available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.merging.com/
>>>>
>>
>They're a very for-real company. Not so much in the music production
markets as Chris mentioned. But if you're into DSD they're the only game
in town. However they do convert to 196 for any effects or processing,
then back to DSD. Supposedly sounds extremely good none the less. If you
had an old school room with an effects console like that new SSL and a
ton of outboard, it would make a really kick ass DSD recorder/editor. Deej?
James McCloskey wrote:
> I was wondering what ever happened to these guys. They advertised huge track
> counts with no latency in the past. I thought it was all vaporware.
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> This looks like a very hip system. They claim 256 track real-time
>> processing (no latency) by NOT "relying on" windows or mac OS. They also
>
>> say 48 track DSD option (that's the best sounding audio format
>> available). That's some smokin' promises. Definitely not cheap.
>>
>> http://www.merging.com/
>He was super cool and ingeniously creative. I read a lot of his stuff
back in the '70s and '80s.
DC wrote:
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