| for you guitarists out there [message #92594] |
Fri, 09 November 2007 18:43  |
steve the artguy
Messages: 308 Registered: June 2005
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sound very hot in the mixer,
but if I trigger a channel to record, it barely moves. If adjusting the
screws gets me going with the mixer, then I'll be happy.. ummm. for now...
.lol Thanks again... ~ Ed
erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>Hi again Ed,
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>You see, I
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| Re: for you guitarists out there [message #92607 is a reply to message #92596] |
Sat, 10 November 2007 09:04   |
Tom Bruhl
 Messages: 1368 Registered: June 2007
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l of those companies getting
>their noses bloodied in that segment of the market, and a complete unwillingness
>of new players to step in, I have to wonder if the 'C24 crowd' just isn't
>big enough to make it a financially viable target. Not that I have any insight
>into this being true, but it seems like that's what the market thinks.
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>TCB
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>It does look clean line..I think it does have wide appeal. I just think
>that
>>there is the C24(ish) crowd like myself..
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>>I dunno, LaMont, that's some pretty sweet looking design with the Eupohinx
>>>stuff. I think a lot of clients would be pretty impressed even if it doesn't
>>>look as much like a big analog console. Not that I'm likely ever to find
>>>out, of course.
>>>
>>>TCB
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>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I guess like some others, we are looking for a C24 like product. We've
>>asking
>>>>for this for now going on 7 years and all they keep bringing out (Save
>>for
>>>>Digidesign) is these 8 fader units.
>>>>
>>>>I've never been a mackie controller fan. This is not hard to do. 24 32
>>faders
>>>>to support Cubase,Logic,DP,Sonar ..Again look at the C24 http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=219&langid=100 &itemid=5342
>>>>
>>>>Dropthat baby into a argosy http://www.argosyconsole.com/c24.htm and
you
>>>>really have something that clients, yourself can be proud of...
>>>>
>>>>"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>Sweetwater says PC support is in the works, but we'll have to see what
>>>
>>>>>really transpires (I've emailed Euphonix about it).
>>>>>The sales rep says they saw it in their product preview and it's a very
>>>>nice
>>>>>unit - way better than the Mackie. He says
>>>>>Euphonix thought of everything, except PC support of course.
>>>>>
>>>>>Post market only? Imo, that depends on what you need for a music only
>>>
>>>>>studio - if a Mackie control
>>>>>does the job for a music studio, the MC Mix/Control would likely do
it
>>>
>>>>>better - more control and functionality
>>>>>and control of their monitor software as well (Mac of course). I hear
>>>>the
>>>>>end caps come off
>>>>>so you can attach multiple units and have a larger controller. Also
>the
>>>>MC
>>>
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| Re: for you guitarists out there [message #92611 is a reply to message #92607] |
Sat, 10 November 2007 12:29  |
Neil
Messages: 1645 Registered: April 2006
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>>>directly into the 8-ins from the preamp or DI or whatever, I have no problems
>>>getting levels. But when I feed through the Behringer mixers, the wet
>channels
>>>are not hot enough, although in the monitor of the mixer, it is over powering.
>>> I know that I may not be explaining it very well... but that is what seems
>>>to be happening. I have switched the 8-in cards to Pro, instead of Semi-Pro.
>>> That helped a little, but not enough.
>>>
>>>Another way to think of this is... Say my vox is on mixer channel 1 (to
>>>be recorded) and is fed thru the Direct Out to Channel 1 on the 8-in.
>And
>>>say channels 5 thru 16 have guitars, drums, keyboards and backup/harmony
>>>vox. And this is a rock song, so it isn't soft. I have the Paris main/monitor
>>>outs fed to the mixer channel 25 and 26 for playback/monitor... If I turn
>>>up my vox to slightly over power the monitor (and is almost max w/o distortion),
>>>it is ok in the mix, but not in the recorded levels. So remember, what
>is
>>>going out the Direct Out is controlled on mixer channel 1. This has been
>>>my dilemma for months...
>>>
>>>erlilo <erling.lovik@lyse.net> wrote:
>>>>Hey Ed and Happy New Year to you too!
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to hear about your levelproblems with the SL mixer.
>>>>
>>>>In the first Paris years I used an Alesis Studio 32 with 16 direct
>>>>outs, as Martin talked about. Used it for some years but it began to
>>>>be more and more faulty on some of the channels. So I went the
>>>>Behringer wagon and get an MX3224X and an UB2442FX-Pro. Have used them
>>>>for years now with my two Parissystems without problems. One of the
>>>>systems are mobile and is using the UB mixer to feed 8 direct outs to
>>>>a Paris 8-ins card. For me, the headroom is good enough for most of my
>>>>recordings when travelling with it. But the MX3224X is one of the
>>>>best, if not the best in it's class. The exstra big external power
>>>>(150 watts/ 7kg) supply is built for extreme uses and have headroom
>>>>enough to most jobs. 16 direct outs, inserts on each channel, 4 groups
>>>>outs, in line system etc.
>>>>http://www.behringer.com/MX3242X/index.cfm?lang=eng
>>>>
>>>>After looking at the specifications on the different Behringer mixers,
>>>>I see that max input level is the same on these kind of mixers. Max
>>>>output are from +22dBu to +28dBu, where Xenyx, MX and SL have +28, so
>>>>maybe your problem isn't the mixer at all but the Paris 8-ins card?
>>>>Are you sure it's calibrated correct to work optimal? On the back of
>>>>it, you can calibrate it with a little shrewdriver. I know there have
>>>>been written here about how to do this correct but I can't find the
>>>>papers here. Maybe some other have them yet, so you can try it out.
>>>>
>>>>ErlingHi Aaron,
Yes, I am gonna look into that. What worries me (as I posted earlier)
is that I am getting hot/decent sign
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